Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - Michelle Obama’s Parenting Confession Has Us Divided | FULL SHOW

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

On today’s show: (00:00) Producer Grace launches a mission to score a $99 Ninja Slushie Machine at a major Auckland sale! (03:40) Michelle Obama’s honest take on becoming an empty nester sparks a parenting confession session (11:50) Producer Grace heads to the queue and discovers just how massive the line really is... (15:15) The longest lines listeners have ever waited in! (19:00) Nicole Ryan joins us live from New York with Harry Styles updates (26:00) An international conference proves school principals all share the same vibe (30:00) The family gym card situation reaches breaking point in Ben's household (44:50) Why dog owners sometimes end up in very awkward conversations at the park (47:30) Producer Grace finally reaches the front of the queue and gets devastating news so we surprise her! (50:00) Relationship lawyer Holly Edgerton explains why more couples should consider prenups and postnups   Join the Itty Bitty Hitty Committee HERE!Instagram:  @THEHITSBREAKFASTFacebook: The Hits Breakfast with Jono, Ben & Megan See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The John O'Ben and Megan podcast, thanks to Dilma. Goodness really does taste great. Dilma, making the world a better tea. Hi, drama. Yesterday, if you were tuned into the show, towards the back end, towards the bottom end of the program, producer Grace had sent through just a calendar invite with no sort of, no context,

saying she was going to be out of action during the show today from 845 to 930 on a mission to get a $99-frosay slushy machine. So during the show. Drama though So it turns out That there is already A giant line Outside of the location

Which I will not reveal Well this is yeah There's a new store that's opening up Yes we can say that So we're not even know this But they're a paying client of this radio station Surely we should be mentioning the name of the shop That's

Now the issue is though That there's also what half-price iPhones on sale At this particular outlet Do you think the line that has already generated since 4 in the morning, more iPhone-based or slushy-based? Like that is a distraction. I think people are there for the iPhone. I think people are there for the iPhone, but my worry is, producer Troy, gave this example.

If you're there to get your iPhone, you see a $99-Nedger slush, you're going to be like, might as well. Amen, true. Yeah, I mean, why wouldn't you grab a couple of bargains? Are you cost of living crisis? You're probably like, I'm going to get the iPhone and that is. True, because, yeah, iPhone's at, well, even at the reduced price, I imagine it's still thousands, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Now all we're going to do after talking about this is people are going to text and going, where can you get the $99 Ninja Frose slushy machine from? That's what we had yesterday. And you made us, you put a gag order on us. We weren't allowed to say. My thing at this point is, it's only in one place. It's not a nationwide thing.

Yeah, you can't get on line. Also, at this point, if you haven't planned to go there, you're not going to. You're not going to. So I'm pro telling people this morning. Because you booked out too Another question You booked out at 845 to 930 Are we still

Oh that's moving Is that's a movable Where do you think you need to head down there I'm going to leave it like 725 When the sun's up Around that time I think So you're happy to wait in line An hour and a half for

Yeah If you guys are okay with that Oh you can call me I'll go live I'm okay with it if you get me one too Fine It's probably a one per customer scenario

I think it's one per customer Yeah No I think it said two Well you can go down Were there a few ones? But apparently I've already got one. What do you want two? I want another one.

No, I'm buying it as a Christmas present. I'm buying it as a Christmas present. I apparently is only 50 in stock. Oh. Well, I read that, but it could be a lie. But I'm also, I'm ready to throw hands, guys. Troy did mention, too, this is a good thing. Why don't you have, like, the slushy line?

So you've got the iPhone line and, like, in a theme park, all the people in the iPhone and be like, oh, look at the slushy people going straight. to the front of the queue. Be disdain for you, but there should be. Two lines. Yeah, there should be two lines. I want to see what else is down there.

Oh, God, I'm a sucker for a sale. You are, aren't you? Yeah. You should just go to Noel Lehman, Queen Street, Megan. John-oh! What? I asked one thing this year. I've only asked one thing for you guys.

It's not reveal location on the end. I'm glad someone said Noel leaving Queen Street. Oh. Go again, Ben. Say it one more time. What time is it open there, Ben? At 9 o'clock, I think it was over at Noel Lehman Queen Street. There's already a line, though.

Flagship store. You guys are. Megan's right. If you're on your way to work, you're not going to dog lead to Noel Lehman Queen Street at 9-A. $39.00, they're just like you. I'd do anything. John O'Bin and Megan.

The podcast. The heads. As parents, you know, there's a lot of stuff that you probably think, but you don't say out loud because it'd make you look like a terrible person. But we're going to create a safe space now for those people, aren't we? This is something off you saw Michelle Obama talking about Megan. So on, I think it was her podcast, they were talking about how her kids are leaving home. She's going to be an empty nester.

And they're like, you know, it's like really sad when that happens. And like, what do you do with yourself? And she had an opposing view. I love them. I'm going to see them tonight for dinner. I love them. Yeah. But, you know, Barack cried when they went to college.

I was like, bye, Lily. Now Friday nights aren't wrecked with. terror and fear about where are you where are you it gave a a meaning and like pattern to my life i'm good yeah i look at all this meaning so she's happy the kids have moved out yeah iraq though he was shedding tears i reckon i'll be the same i reckon i'll cry yeah i reckon i'm dreading as i get towards the end of it and i know it's the part of the parents you know growing up and being their own person but i'm not looking forward to that you know i am counting down.

And I think a lot of it too, a lot of the anxiety is too, I think as a couple you've been so focused on raising these human beings. You have to kind of re-acquaint yourself with each other at the back end of it. Oh no, me and Andrew don't have that issue. Oh damn? No, we're acquainted. So where are the kids in the

importance of your life? They're first equal with a lot of things. And like I... Formula One, Red Bull, yeah. I've got so much going on. It'd be really good if they could go do their own thing, but they are only three and So I've got a way to go. Okay, so you're in the Michelle Obama camp.

Okay, that's five. But also, like, I don't, I don't get, like, mum guilt, you know? Like, really? Yeah, so, like, when I go out and do something, like, if I'm working, if I go away for ages, maybe a little bit. But, like, if I go out, everyone's like, oh, you think you might your baby. So you're like, I'm like, no. I'm actually really enjoying myself. And it doesn't mean you don't love your kids.

No, but I really appreciate the time away. Right. And I don't, maybe I'm just selfish, but I don't feel guilty per se. That's fine. You're a radio host. That's one of our core strengths is being selfish. When you go away and have your time away from them, you've got to really like enjoy it. You know, I'm not going to sit there and feel guilty.

And I guess your kids are younger. As I say, I feel like my kids are getting older, teenage years. I feel like that time is, you know, every holiday. I'm like, it need to be making a good one because, you know. But do you get dad guilt? Yeah. Yeah. Still?

Yeah. Oh, God. I'm a bad. I think you're in the trenches too. So when you get towards the end you'll be like, oh, this is going to end. Yeah, right, okay. Yeah, so you start thinking about not the finish line because it's always going to be in your life, but when they're, you know, towards the end.

So, yeah, more so now. Even when my son went to school, like, I got a little bit Terry, but I didn't really cry. I was like, see ya. Yeah, I know. For some people, it's just another chapter, isn't it? Yeah. And it's cool to see when they're ready for it, they're becoming their own people. Yeah, he was stoked.

Maybe if he was sad, I would have been like, oh. That's fine. You've got a cold dead heart. I know, I think I do. I'm happy for you. I think I do. That you feel no emotion. That's cool. That's absolutely. Lily Allen, she had a really, she said something out loud, which I think is fact. She was essentially saying her kids ruined her career. She loves her kids. She has no regrets about having children, but, you know, call a spade to spade. And they did probably derail her pop star career.

I never really had a strategy when it comes to career. But yes, my children. ruined my car. And she was probably at the peak when she had kids and then came back at the back end of, you know, raising them to a certain age. Yeah, that's a tough hill to navigate. Yeah. When you have children, it definitely puts bumps in the road. So we wanted to know this morning stuff as a parent that maybe you think,

but you don't say, you know, out loud. Because you don't want to be as heavy as that. Could it just be when they hand you a picture when they're little and you're like, oh, that's so good. Do I have to put it on the fridge? But in your head you might, it's not as good as your last one. But you wouldn't say that out loud. I have a cold, dead heart, apparently.

So I'm not going to judge you. You can say whatever. This is a safe space. I'm going to say one. My daughter Poppy, she dances. I love watching her dance. I love watching you dance, darling. But I don't like watching the other random kids for the hour and a half.

Right. I like watching your five minutes. She do a wonderful job and make me very proud. I get emotional. The other kids, I have no connection to me. I couldn't care less. I know they've worked just as hard, but I don't care. John O'Bennon and Megan.

The podcast. The hits. Michelle Obama, Barack Obama's wife is a very successful podcast. She's got at the moment. She had John Stewart, who's a talk show host on with her, and they were talking about the kids leaving the household. I love them. I'm going to see them tonight for dinner.

I love them. Yeah. But, you know, Barack cried when they went to college. I was like, bye, little. Now Friday night. aren't wrecked with terror and fear about where are you where are you it gave a a meaning and like pattern to my life i'm good yeah she's happy they're gone i think moms get a lot of like the you know they come to you when they're sad or when they're sick or you get like a lot of the like

negative not negative but you're there as the comforter right whereas dad's often like the guy they play with you know so you get tired of being the one that always has to like wipe the tears and especially from her point of view Barak was off being a cool president for two terms so he probably like I didn't get to spend much time with them so he's probably got that

yeah but those are often the things you think about and you don't say out loud that's right yeah the Texas comes through before along the same lines of Zia artwork as well about when they're doing like a cartwheel or something or a roly polly when they're little and you're like that's so good

you're like mum look at me look at me and then they jump and you're like, cool man. Have you seen something called the Olympics? Because I think you should take a look at it if you want to impress me. Yeah, I get that. Someone else is texting going, I don't know where your toy is and I've stopped caring. Yeah. This is a good one.

Sometimes when you come into the room and try and wait me up, I'm pretending to be asleep. Kev, what you think is apparent, but you never say out loud. Welcome, Kev. Morning guys. How are you? And the mighty muddewer too. Amongst the turbines comes Kevin. What are you thinking but not saying out loud as a parent, K-dog?

There's lots of muttering under my breath and the typical F-F-S. You can say those on the radio. We said this was a safe space. No, you can't say that. You can't say the full words of those. I'm not going to go to the thing. You know, they're lovely little children and you want to celebrate the successes because they're not around forever and, you know, they leave home

and you hope you raise them as good human beings, but there's some trials and tribulations along the way, that's for sure. I'll celebrate the successes, but there's got to be one. Like jumping up and down is like, well, that's, you know. Megan's got a very high idea. No, I agree. They're very sweet. Kev's come in with a positive angle of stuff that he thinks is a parent,

but hasn't said out loud. And that's a wonderful sentiment, Kev, great text here. When you start talking about Minecraft, I stop listening at the beginning of the story, and now I'm just nodding. pretending. I spoke to a mum the other day, a friend of mine and she is, she has kids as young as mine and she said she started when they annoy her and then they turn around and like go to their room or whatever, she flips the bird. And their husband's like, are you okay? She's aggressively like flipping the bird at her kid. And the husband's going, what's happening when I'm turning my man? John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The hits. Now producer Grace, feisty, Gen Z,

that she is heard something on the radio about a new sale. Well, she heard us voicing an ad and it's the most interested she's ever been in one of our ad libs for four years we've worked with Grace. This is why advertising on radio works.

It does work. This is why if you are a client and you're thinking about radio for your business, it does get results, direct results and this is happening in real time right now because we're voicing an ad for an outlet that's opening up a certain flagship store and on sale

along with iPhones, half-priced iPhones are $99 Ninja Frose Slushy Machines. And Grace said, dear God, I need one of those. And she sent us a calendar invite yesterday out of the blue saying she was taking time off from 845 to 9.30 during the show to go down and wait in line. Also cute that she thought that that's all the time she needed because people have been lining up since, what, like 5 a.m. this morning.

Yeah, so this is a real worry for Grace. So now the calendar is shifted around. She's now on her way down now. You didn't actually send an amended calendar invite too, by the way, but Grace joins us huffing and puffing away to the shop in question. Now, you gagged us. You put a gag order on us from mentioning the store, so there would be no competition for you.

Exactly. Are you running or walking? I'm walking really, really fast. Oh, okay. I'm puffing about. John, you did mention Noel Lehman and Queen Street a couple of times this morning. I did, yeah. And the store actually opens their flagship store,

and new flagship store at 9 a.m., so, yeah. An hour and a half You're going to have to wait there, Grace I'm ready, I'm ready Mentally When was the last time you lined up for something? I honestly don't think I've ever lined up for anything in my life Why don't we open the phones?

The longest line people have waited in For either tickets or maybe sale items 0,800 the hits 4, 4487 Because Grace, I reckon you're in for at least a two or three hour wait in this line. Yeah, everyone keeps messaging me saying that the line apparently gotten bigger. So the only thing you can hope for at this point is that everyone's there for like the iPhone. Yeah. For another item. Because I think there's only a

limited number of the slushy things that you want, right? Yeah. Yes. You know the thing that's got this is just sitting with me is, you know, if they're selling these items at whatever price, a $99 slushy machine, usual RRP is what? Like $600. You know, they're probably still making a profit, Surely? Or is it a lost leader, as they talk about in the game, where they get you in? Oh, is that a tactic? And they get you in for something, and while you're there, you're just... Oh, lost leader.

By a cheeky little USB stick while you're waiting in line. I see what you say. Well, Grace, we'll be keeping the rolling coverage open with you as you try and get your $99 slushy machine. And 0,800 the hits, yeah, longest lines that you've actually... Have you camped out overnight for tickets? Remember the concerts? You used to sleep overnight outside there?

venue and... I remember my friend back in the day camped out for U-2 tickets. Intents. Like overnight, yeah. Remember when that was massive? It was a thing and people would... Tense.

There wasn't their little pop-up tents? Yeah, we complained about a pre-sale being stressful, but we're on the computer. You're doing that while you're driving, on the motorway? You remember that next time you're complaining, Ben? Yeah, I'm 3,000s in the queue, but I'm not, I'm just sitting here at the... Yeah, you're right.

John O'Bin and Megan. The podcast. The Hits. Producer Grace, very keen on something this morning. Yeah, she has made her way to get a $99 slushy machine. From an outlet which she told us we weren't allowed to mention on the radio because she didn't want to attract attention to the sale. But the sale was on at 9 a.m. this morning.

So I maintain if you haven't already heard about it, you're not going to have gone now. People are on their way to work. If you haven't gone to Noel Leeming's flagship store on Queen Street, which is at 9 a.m. Why would you start going now? you did right so we've just had audio sent through

of Grace arriving at the line apparently has been building since 4 a.m. this morning Oh my God oh my God oh my God no it's like oh my God people have been camping out the line is like 20 stores long okay there we go oh my God

almost running a couple of blocks a couple of blocks deep now Grace's she's offline at the moment she can't hear us and Genzies don't know how to connect to the radio outside of a radio station. But we do have a surprise for her. Yeah, thanks to Noel Leaming. With the new store opening on Queen Street today,

we've got two slushy makers to give away, one to Grace and one to give away to someone listening. Yeah, so just text. But we haven't told producer Grace, do we just, do we hold off? Yes. Definitely not telling her. She's got to wait in the line for at least two or three hours before.

The dream result for me would be she gets into the shop. We get the emotion and devastation of her missing out on her 99. dollar slushy machine. Then we come in. Well, thanks to, yeah, Noel leaving the flagship store at 192 Queen Street, which is pretty cool. Yeah, love it. But in the meantime, longest lines you've waited in.

Grace, probably in for a three or four hour wait, I imagine, Shelby. Longest line you've waited in. Six hours. Oh, for what? For some brisket. Brisket? He's even laughing at how ridiculous that six-hour weight was. Listen, it was.

I don't know if you've ever cured at six. am to get lunch. No, but that's a lot of forward thinking. That was you. Whereabouts was this place? It was in Austin, Texas. It's called Franklin's Barbecue. And I grew up in Texas, so I have had all sorts of barbecue.

And I thought I had the best. But we're living in Austin, and my friend comes in. And he's like, hey, I've seen this place online. And I really think we should go to it. I said, okay, what's it called? Franklin's. I was like, all right. And he's like, well, we got to get there at 6.

And I was like, for lunch? Are you mad? But then we did it. And they had like very courteous setup at the, at Franklin. She just pulled a chair and wait and wrapped all the way around the block. But I got to tell you, after eating so much barbecue growing up and takes us, man, it was worth it. It was so good. Six hours.

Best brisket ever. Well, there you go. We'll see how long producer grace takes this morning for her. Hopefully not six hours. Yeah. But the Ninja Pink, a frosee limited edition slash the exclusive to Noel Leaming. We got one to give away and one to give to Grace. So if you want one, text Ninja to 4487.

Is that one of those words that people will spell like N-I-N-G-A? N-I-N-J-A. And you're in the drawer. No one in any ningers. And if you're heading to the city, it's well worth stopping by the new Noel Leaming store, the flagship store, 192 Queen Street. Oh my God, the text machine is already. These things are great, guys.

You're underestimating these bloody slushy machines. John O'Benn and Megan. The podcast. The Hats. Time to see Nicole in New York. Live from New York City. It's our entertainment correspondent, Nicole Ryan. Nicole Harry Stiles over there at the moment in the middle of his, what, 922 show run at Madison Square Garden?

Yes, sir, and I am headed there this weekend. Oh, nice. I'm very excited. I know. What are the reviews like so far? Are they loving him? Oh my God. I mean, obsessed.

People are just, like, incredibly, incredibly obsessed. It just, everyone's like, you are there, and you just feel, like, all the love, and you just feel like he's your boyfriend, every single one of you. But I don't like the suit and tie. I prefer the Sequin jump suit. Like, that's what I want to go and say. I did think he had, like, a cute little look when he was wearing, like, shorts the other night. and like, I think a sequencer, I don't know. But you know what?

He's just, he's evolving. He's going with the flow. He's trying out different fashion vibes for himself. Yeah, jumpsuit's very inconvenient. I mean, I'm sure I hit a zip with something. I mean, I'll take Harry Stiles however he comes, to be honest. But he just, listen, he just really can do no wrong in my eyes. He's just so sweet.

And did you see the video of him the other night when Jalen Brunson was there from the New York Knicks? have the king of New York and next time Mr Jaylon Brunson And he literally was like We've got a champion A world champion in the house And like was bowing down to him

And they put the camera on Jalen Brunson Because they were obviously We're the next one And it was very cool It was very cool It's really cute Speaking of sport Like obviously the NFL

American football Went to Melbourne Australia close to us 100,000 people Join us brothers half time Was it much news? I guess it was a regular season game in America, which made it kind of cool.

I was, like, disappointed with the Jonas Brothers. I felt like they needed to not do so many wide shots of them. It was not the Jonas Brothers' fault. Not so many wide shots of them. It looked very small and rinky-dinky-dinky. Like, it was not, I didn't like the stage. It looked very, they were just starting out their career. And it wasn't long enough.

But I guess it's not like the Super Bowl halftime show. It was just like a game, but. Yeah, I know. Like, we do it a little bit smaller over here, okay? You're like, this is down under. When you've got Rihanna, bloody, sailing it on a high wire, we can't afford high wire stuff down this part of the world.

You bloody live in New York. You've got Madison Square Garden, like, chill. That's the best Australia can offer. If she came to New Zealand, Rihanna would be holding onto a reusable supermarket bag, like a parachute. Hopefully that would hold her. One thing I thought was really interesting,

the two teams. One went quite early, the 49ers. They went like a week before to acclimatized to the time zone. Rams were like last minute. pretty much in our straight into the game and straight back out they didn't spend any time yeah we discussed that like which was better i feel like you want to go in and out obviously that was like the wrong decision yeah like you yeah like i just feel like you don't want to even give your body a

second to acclimate like just go in like get the job done and leave because like i don't know it's just the jet lag like ruins me i get like if i'm on the west coast my jet lag is like horrific so that's a lot that's big jet like when you're on the other side of the world but um obviously didn't matter but only the effect like a day. Pretty much. Yeah. They're down to the wire, basically.

There's a little time in Australia that they could spend. A lot of Kiwis are going, well, that's right. You know? I mean, you're not racing jet lag. Like, jet lag will kick in as soon as you're awake during the night time. That's true. That's true. A good time to have a kick in the middle of an NFL game.

This is a bad, terrible decision, guys. I was doing the admin logistics on this trip. Nightmare. John O'Benon and Megan. The podcast. The hits. I mean, Queen Street's got to. grand opening today, the producer Grace is very excited about.

She wanted to get her hands on the Ninja Pink, Frose, limited edition Slushy. It's exclusive to Noel Lamming. There's a whole lot of other bargains at 192, Queen Street, the flagship store. And she was like, we can't talk about it because I want to go down and get my hands on the slushy maker. Well, unfortunately, we mentioned it. And the line now, Grace stretches. How many blocks? Oh, my gosh.

It's nearly reaching two blocks, potentially three. It's a lot. It's very overwhelming. Like, how many people do you estimate? I couldn't even comprehend how many people are in this line right now, probably close to light. Maybe like 500? Wow. So you're thinking the chances of you're getting your hands on a slashing maker, not good?

I'm not super optimistic. I'm not going to lie, but hey, I've never stood in a line before, so this is fun. Okay. Good on you. Yeah, I mean, it's a whole new concept to your generation, isn't it, waiting in a line? Yeah, they've been handing out chocolates to make sure everyone has sweets. Oh, that's lovely, isn't it? It's a rock past me.

Well, we'll cross back to Grace after 8 o'clock, okay? You have a good one. We'll do. Good luck out there. All right. Can she hear us? She can't hear us. Okay.

So if you missed it before, we have got one for producer grace and one to give away as well. She doesn't know about that one. Is the one we're giving away the pink one? It's not to you, though. You can't win that. You can text. Megan's very got one. She's like, I want another one.

I know. That's how good they are. Ninja 4487. And thanks to Noel Eming. And the Queen Street Grand Opening Store, you could be winning one of those. and it is blowing up the text machine. Yeah, Ninja, you know, Nya, J-A. I'd just like to clarify the spelling there.

Ben, yesterday I witnessed probably absolute nightmare fuel for someone of your personality trait. What's that? So across the roadway park, it's like a conference centre. And I've got into the daily habit, I don't know why, of kind of sitting in the foyer, knocking off some admin,

and getting on with the next part of my day before I hop in the car. Oh, okay, I get that. Yeah, there was a conference on yesterday. Okay, so I'm sitting at a table, and then this couple come up. I'm assuming the status of their relationship that they were a couple.

Yeah. She said to him, hey, just save three seats for our friends who will be coming as well. He said, no worry. She went off to the toilet. Now, another group came up. They took the seats. She came back. She's given him the eyeball.

He didn't say anything to the people that took the seats. Oh, no. Which I know you wouldn't do. No, I wouldn't do that either. She comes back and she's like, what happened to our seats? And then he's looking at her going, Don't ask me that. And then the group who took the seats then said,

oh, we weren't made aware of these were anyone's seats. Oh, they dobed him in. So this poor boy is stuck in the middle of this conversation going on, throwing under the bus. Although they didn't know they were throwing him under the bus. No, no, they didn't. They were like, oh, sorry. I don't like saving, like, you.

I don't like to be the person to save seats either, to be honest. No. Because my husband would do that to me. He'd be like, save this. And I'd just be like, no, I'm not. I'm not going to tell people they can't sit there. Yeah, people are putting like a bag or a jacket or something over it just to try and but it's...

Yeah, I know it used to yet. I don't think any of us would want to save seats. No. But I just felt so sorry for this guy. And you knew there was going to be a conversation. Oh yeah. You knew it. On the way home.

Yeah, oh, you knew. You knew. John O'Benn and Megan. The podcast. The hits. I found myself walking through the hallway of a international principles conference yesterday. School principals.

So we must for the conference, were you? You're just going through. Yeah, I was just walking through to the lift. My dad would have loved to be there. He was the school principal. Wouldn't Kevin Boyce? He would know probably 99% of the people in the room. That would be his Coachella.

Oh, yeah. I won't tell him what was on because he would be, oh, not this, oh, you know. Is it only current principals, do you think? He's not currently. He's retired, yeah. But they were, you know, from all over the world, given the international branding of the conference. Wow.

So it's nice that we're hosting them all from around the globe. What do they talk about? I don't know. I'd probably, I guess, how they're educating in their different zones. Yeah. What's working? Learning from other schools and stuff?

Yeah, right. I remember sitting in the car many times well, Dad, but check out a school while we're away somewhere. Oh, would you go overseas and check out school? Oh, no, but mani, Randy, you said, just want to have a little look at the school. And I was like, oh, geez, all right. Oh, so you'd be like in, mutter, mutter.

Yeah, and he'd be like, I was just got to check out. You're like, do we? She's going to look like a school. What's your tie-in-ship? combo. Yeah. But this is what I want to get to, Megan. You raise a great point is school principals.

No matter where they're from in the world, what I learned yesterday is they always look like principals, you know, male, female, whatever. Okay, what do they look like? They, pants, for the males, pants, shirt tucked in, tie combo, sometimes blazer, sometimes not blaze. What I noticed too, because I've hung out around a lot of principals over the years. It's a specialty topic. I'm a walk with like a hand behind the back.

Oh yeah. They're like hands together. They were all doing that. Did they do that at the conference? They sort of walk along like they're inspecting stuff like that. That's enough for the principals walk. My dad does it too. He's just subconsciously.

So intimidating. The hand behind the back. Yeah. They were doing that like inspecting the catering. Do you think that's a power? I don't know. It's just for something that's powerful yet submissive because you know you're not defensive.

There's nothing in front of your body. But they give off. It's hard. describe, they give off an aura an aura of that's the person I need to listen to they know what they're doing. That's the vibe I got from everyone

in that hallway. Well you've been around probably with my dad and some people will still come up growing men and women and stuff coming up to him and still be like, good do Mr. Boyce and you know like they suddenly around the principle. I can't for the life of me imagine Kevin disciplining

anyone. Can you imagine Kevin noise? Can you be firm? Can you be firm? Yeah, he can be a firm, yeah, he's got, yeah. I reckon if you were sent to the principal's office and it was him, you'd just get your ear chewed off. Yeah, he's a good talker. I'm going to be there for a while. And he loves a joke, but there was definitely times, you know, a serious, you know, principals, you know, because you have to deal with some pretty, you know, serious stuff.

Yeah. I do remember, like, one thing going to, there was, like, a former Australian rugby coach was at something with a whole lot of principals. We're at some random's house. I remember sitting my sister and I, sitting on the couch in a side room for, like, three or four hours while they're all chuck. Talking school stuff. No, I saw him, but it was like, this guy was the,

he was the former Australian coach, and I didn't really, and at one stage of the evening, he came into the room that my sister and I was sitting, and just sat down with us, like, who!

Like, he needed some time out. He got kept. And I just remember him. And I was like, hey, yeah, man, he's like, you know, sort of thing like that. It was like,

just going to need a little breather just, you know, just to go back in there. So lovely, though. Yeah. Oh, they were all back. Yeah, just asking. But he loved to chat.

loving questions and all like. And then the principals started coming in, they go, oh, he's in there. And they're like, oh, God, back to it. He came to one of our alpha quizzes, and me and Ben were just sitting back one time watching Jono, who also loves the chat, and Kevin Boyce. I love that. I'm not a scratch on Kevin. He was that ever going to wrap up.

He's never going to. He's the big leagues. Johno Ben and Megan, the podcast. The Hits. But something's causing a lot of arguments at home at the moment. We all go to the. same gym. Originally it was just my daughters and I would go to the same gym and basically the gym system works that they are the members and they get one card and then the family can kind of

share. We pay for access. So there's only two cards. My daughters have the cards. And it was a good little system going when my daughters and I would kind of do it, you know, the fact that my daughters would not want to get on a lanyard. I was like the lanyard, we're never going to lose it, but they don't like a goofy looking lanyard apparently. Do you have a key card? Yeah. It's a little key card. Oh, you don't put that on a lanyard? I'm like we're swapping it around and stuff. It's been handed round. It's not staying with one individual.

Yeah, because they were just put it in the back of their phone case and that's fine. Nothing makes you look more official than a lanyard. Thank you very much, Megan. Swiping in with a lanyard's a hell of a feeling, Megan. Is this guy here to work out or is he from IT? Oh, my gosh. I don't know. So anyway, we had a system, but most of the time it worked all right between the three of us,

but now my wife is back to the gym as well. So now there's four of us, but two cards. And this is causing a whole lot of debate. Because people will go to the gym and then forget they're in the pocket, and not put them in the communal area of a home for the cards. Because we go to the same gym as well, and we used to share a card city. And remember that time Andrew left,

you got leave the card in the bush. And the bushes, yeah. And I had to go through the bushes to get the car. You take a photo. Is there a bush? Yeah, there is bushes. The bush option seems probably like the most sensible one, Megan. That's a great solution.

Get out there, put your card in the book. Yeah, because at the moment, we're all yesterday. There was all going around lots of things that daughters wanted to go to the gym they couldn't find the cards things going around I've left it here no I put it there

my wife's like I haven't got them they're in you know Put it in the bush Yeah put it in the bush There is no reason for anyone to be ferreting around in the bush Apart from you

Because your card's in there So no one will find that You can call it the shushia bush It's been the secret little bush Well put it in the shushia bush Well yesterday we should have put it The Shushabush bush Because it was a lot of things going around

Someone's got the card My wife's got the card No I put her here We'll like just check your back of your phones My wife had three cards It's in the back of her phone. I thought you only had two cards. Exactly.

I said, where's the third one come from? She's like, she was talking to her on the phone in real time as she opened up the case going, yeah, I've got three in the back of my phone. So the two of my daughters and someone else's apparently. She's joined another family plan. I think so. Yeah, put one in the emergency shushabush. Shushabush.

I think it's a far better plan. Do they not give out, like if you wanted two more cards? No, it's always one. It's a one card. for the person whose gym membership it is. Yeah. It's to make you pay for another membership, Jono. To make it frustrating.

There's a hook. There's a hook attached. Yeah, the sushi bush is a great idea. John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits. She's not dancing with a stranger. She is standing with many strangers at the moment.

Our producer Grace, 25-year-old, hungry, desperate, frothing like a rabies-laden dog for a $99. Ninja-Frosay Slushy machine. standing in line how many blocks deep you think grace oh I'm not gonna lie guys I actually don't know what a block is

I don't really know either is it in like two straight let's go meters how far to the store oh my god wait like do you even know what meters are wait maybe 200 wait maybe 200 okay so you're still on a line it opens at 9 o'clock this morning

this is no leaming Queen Street grand opening you hate us saying that but it's my new flagship store yeah yeah But I mean, you've got your place in the queue now. Slushy machines, we're wondering, are you even going to be able to get your hands on one by the time you actually make it into the store? Can you pass us over to the person next to you, Grace?

Everyone's kind of doing their own thing right now. This is radio in the wild. This is classic GEDs. He doesn't want to talk to that. I don't want to talk. Guys, you don't want to interact with anyone. No, everyone's on the phone. You've been there for an hour.

Have you not said hi? I've made one friend. Well then pass the phone over to them. But he's on the phone right now. The person next to you just go here, the guy's on the radio want to talk to you. I'll ask him, but he's on the phone right now. I'll give you two seconds.

Thank you, Grace. I work for the radio. Will you talk on the radio? He's unsure it's the Gen Z in him. He doesn't want to talk on the radio. What is this generation? You know? Not willing to humiliate themselves in public nowadays.

Anyone else around you? It's radio station. I'm trying to convince him. I'm trying to convince him. Everyone else is on their phone, okay, guys? He's like, which radio station? All I want to know is he there for an iPhone or a slushy machine? He's here.

He's trying to buy MacBook. Oh. He's trying to buy MacBook, and I'm trying to buy a slushy. Have you talked to anyone else who's wanting a slushy? I've heard people talking about the slushy. Oh, really? Because I'm looking on before. It's phones, TVs, laptops, gaming, set up, Home Essentials.

There's a lot of stuff for people who could be in line for them. Yeah. Troy raised a good point though. If you're going in there, for example, for a laptop and you're walking to the counter and you're like, oh, $99 slushy machine, why wouldn't you grab yourself a bargain? Money? Yeah, that's a very good reason, Megan.

You've budgeted for the one thing, you know? You get your blinkers on to get it and then... Money always lets you down. Yeah. Okay, well, good luck, producer grace. We'll see how you go at 9 o'clock this morning. Yes, hopefully. I'm manifesting, manifest for me.

Good luck ignoring everyone around you. We'll do. All right. Disgraces, she's gone. She's gone. Okay, so we have got, she doesn't know. We've got two, thanks to Noel Leaming Queen Street. Their brand new grand opening of the flagship store, we've got two slushies, slushie makers.

The Ninja Pink Frozen Limited Edition slushy, exclusive to Noel Leaming. One is for Producer Grace. She doesn't know that yet, and one is to give away. A pink one. Yeah, just text Ninja to 4487, we'll give that away before 10 o'clock. They know how to get us, eh. I've got one, but it's black. Yeah, no one's more frothing.

You and Producer Grace really, really what? And you've got one. Do you know why? Like I love my slushing machine. I'd probably take it with me if there was a fire. But I want to rock too. Would you take your dog if there was a fire? I'm hoping Andrew would get all the other living things.

Sorry, Leo. He can grab the two kids and the dog. Mama need her slushy. No, because then you can rock like an alcoholic and a non-alcoholic at the same time. And you drink so much you forget your hand a dog. So, yeah, Chex's the Ninja, N-I-N-J-A-A-4-4-R. 8-7 and 0-800-the-hits, the longest line you've waited in. Can you beat Grace?

We're predicting maybe a three or four-hour wait. John O'Benn and Megan, the podcast. The hits. Noel Lehman, Queen Street. It's got a grand opening at the moment. 192 Queen Street, and producer Grace has been talking for the last couple of days about these pink, ninja pink frosee limited edition, slushie makers exclusive to Noel Leaming.

She wants to go down because there's ones for 99 cents today. 99 dollars. Sorry, it's a wild deal. Sorry, 99-9 dollars. 99 is a wild deal 99. Yeah, you can pay up to like 600 for them and they're 99 bucks.

So they're the ninja slushy machines. I think everyone wants one. I think Ben's just giving them 99 problems now. $99. Huge line there at the moment. Producer Grace doesn't know that we've got one for her. Thanks to Noel Leaming and one to give away on 4487 if you text Ninja. So when do we reveal to Grace that this is, like do we make her wait hours and hours?

Nine o'clock when the door start opening. We're debating this because, like, I want her to feel like she missed out. Yeah. So that when we say she's got one, she's like, oh, my God. But you don't want her to get inside and actually get one. It's timing. Well, I think we could find a home for that. Oh, yeah, Megan's.

Maybe that's Megan's plan. Longest time you waited in a line. That's what we want on, oh 800 of the hits. Hello, Sarah. Hi, how you going? Good to have you on, mate. Longest line you waited in. Well, I mean, I'm guessing it'd be like kind of sort of 18 or maybe 12, yeah, 18 hours or so.

That's a decent chunk of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Overnight in London, there was a, I was looking to buy a digital, no, it was an SRLR camera. This was before the time of digital, like early 2000s. And yeah, we slept overnight. People thought we were home. There were other people in the queue as well. We were like fed in the queue.

How deep did the queue get behind you? Oh, so it went around the block. There were maybe about 10 of us staying overnight because there was an electronics store, so there's lots of other stuff as well, you know, on this amazing sale. And yeah, it went round the block. And I got my camera, so, you know.

Oh, you got it? Yeah. Percentage off are we talking? Oh, well, I think it was like at least 50% off. And, you know, and at that stage they were like, you know, in the almost. thousands. Yeah, well that's, I mean, would you wait in line for anything else now you're a bit older? Would you sleep overnight for anything? Probably not. You know, wiser and older and yeah,

nah, I just love my bed too much now. And what was the sleeping arrangements? Did you have like a little tent or a sleeping bag, like, no, it was in the middle of summer and so we just had, I think someone brought us a car, initially we were just going to stand there and then we got some cardboard. I think I took a sleeping bag. I took my husband into coming with me, you know, it's crazy. Could you leave the line and go, you know, if you needed to have nature called?

Oh, I don't think we did. Oh, wow. There weren't any toilets anywhere. Like the bloody Hirox person. I'd be screwed. I go to the toilet every couple of hours. Yeah. Jeez. Well, good on you, Sarah. Glad you got your camera. 18 hours overnight in London. Thank you for your call.

No worries. Thanks so much. See you guys. See you, mate. Have a good one. We've got Barb with Happy New Year and Morina to you, Barb. Oh, Morena, my guys, I've missed you. Lovely. Lovely. So you're doing. Barb, one of the first people we started at the hits, she said, I, I have my reservations about you guys.

And she still does. Probably still does, actually. Don't finish that sentence. She just can't figure out how to change the station. You know me well. What'd you wait in line for, Barb? How long was it? Now, this is way back in the 18s, and it was for getting a book signed by Terry Pratt.

one of the Discwell books. How long did you wait for Terry's signature? And I can't remember the name of the bookstore, but they brought out pizza and they brought out drinks. It was the best waiting I've ever done. And the good thing is too, like we mentioned when you waited in line for tickets and concerts and things back in the day, is you're waiting in line with like-minded people. Yeah, too. You know, you're all into the same thing, so it comes a little bit, you know, it becomes a bit of a shared experience.

Yeah. Yeah, it was really good. was really good and he was amazing when came along and chatted to us all and everybody got their books signed and he sat and ate pizza with us and go Terry I don't know Terry but go Terry. No longer with us.

He's no longer with us. An RIP Terry, what a way to find out. Sorry, sorry. I just got to know him and now is... He was an answer? If you haven't read the books you got to they're very, very funny. Oh well Barbara, you are a legend. You going

have a wonderful day. Oh well thank you. too. And next, we've got a lawyer joining us to talk about why we all should have a pre-up if we're in a relationship. Can you have a pre-nup if you do? John O'Bin and Megan. The podcast. There's something really interesting that we've been keeping an eye on this morning,

and you may remember a couple weeks ago, New Zealand are involved in it. It's Max Verstaffin, a Formula One driver, and a go-car, taking on 100 people in a go-car, race. Max versus 100, and they got content creators, and some drivers from all over the world, including one from New Zealand. We had Taylor Siraj representing us. Great promotion from Red Bull, really. They always do fun stuff. Was it broadcast on Disney?

Live on Disney Plus, but you can watch it obviously still. We're going to give you some spoilers. If you're going to watch it later, then obviously you feel free to tune away right now. I don't think they're unsurprising spoilers. No. The big spoiler is Max for Sampin Woods the Rux. Yeah, it took him 35 minutes.

and he took out a whole lot of people even in the first lap. As we go to the inside. This is it. This is the move. The long looks. They spin. And Max Verstappen

has got past all of them. Max versus 100 is complete. Was his cart a little faster than the other car? Was he just better? No, I think he was just better. And off the starting line, everyone just put their foot down,

but he was shunting his body forward to get his cart going. He even went across the grass. some stage to get around. I mean, you think of 100 go-karts on the track and some of them are obviously not great drivers, so they're all going backwards and...

People ended up turned around and there was like bottlenecks and... Whenever you do like a team building exercise for work, there's always one hard out go-kart. I bet you would be... That's me. You would be the pelvic thruster on the start line, Megan. You'd be thrust in the cart forward.

Yeah, you've got to know the racing line. He knows the racing line, you know? Where did Taylor end up? Do we know? We don't know. We're still looking into that. So I'll give you a... an update on that, but amazing that she went

over there for it. Max is claiming it's his first one of the year. He's like, it's my first one of the year. Take it. I'm just looking online now, but yeah, I think he passed like 60 cars in the first lap alone. He looks so chill, too. This is slow for him. It's just like, wee, Sunday drive. This was Taylor pre-race, Taylor Saraj.

The strength and the energy. I see on Disney Plus. There you go, just chugging back a Red Bull. Spons his product. Good work, good work. This is why think there's still there's still a platform for like sort of a shmoe

has there been a show called Joe's versus Smows yeah where you get the elite athletes taken on the muntas just to showcase how excellent they are and you could do it across a while when the Olympics are happening we have the average people taking them on after the race yeah it's not like you can get the average people

in a Formula One car no but this is a good version of that I think the Auckland Embassy did a version of it and I've seen it online as well where they have professional footballers at half time taking on like 100 kids. Great.

It's quite funny too. Like three taking on 100. And you just see there's kids, it's like just the wave of them just following them all. Swarm of bees. Yeah, basically it is. Because you start to take for granted how excellent these people. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast.

The hits. Ben, you got a dog. Megan, you have a dog. I have a dog. Pretend you don't. I'm busy. You just love other stuff more than Leah. No, I've just got little kids.

and they, you know, take priority. But, yeah, you wander with the dog through the park and you sometimes wander into other dog owners. They have a bit of a sniff, don't they? And you kind of awkwardly stand there. Some people either stand at the dog, staring at the dog, sniffing each other's bits, or you try and start up some conversation

and pretend to be interested in their dog. Yeah. But then you also come across the dog enthusiasts who don't have a dog, but they come across you and your dog. Oh, yeah. Now, I had this moment. yesterday where this lady and she was

lovely enough but she spent the whole time talking to the dog. She didn't say one thing to me. I do that. She said, hello little boy and like hands on knees and patting away and I'm just sort of standing there holding this and I'm like this is a one way conversation lady

like this dog is not giving you much banter back across the tennis net. But some people just want to talk to the dog. I know I wouldn't, yeah, I don't want to talk to the human I'm like I often and ask if I can pat their dog and then it's just me of the dog. I'm like, hello, baby.

Oh, you're so beautiful. She was carrying the entire conversation. Yeah, and then I'll just be like, okay, bye. Like, I wouldn't talk to you. It's like, you know, fix, and away you go. Oh, you're so beautiful. And I didn't know when to wrap it up. Like, I didn't know how much more she had to say to my dog or.

Like, yeah, are you done? Like, is this conversation over? So, uh, yeah, well, one of the, I feel like, one of the most, just remind me of the most, the awkward moments I had was at a park. It was probably about a year after our TV show got cancelled. And a lady came up and she was like, can I get a photo? And I was like, walking the dog

with my daughter, Indy, who was quite young at the time. And I was like, yeah, sweet. And then I worked out pretty quickly. She just wanted a photo of the dock. And I was like, oh yeah, that's cool. And so I stood there and she was like, can you move away a bit more? And so I was like full stretched out on the lead, arm out, like, off to the thing. So the dog was just in the photo by itself.

She got a photo. I was like, thumbs up all good. And as you walked away, Indy, the best line that she ever came up It was like, remember when people used to get photos with you, Dad? I mind you, your hand was in there. It might have been in there, yeah, I don't know. The leash was, yeah, but she kept kind of more, over more. I'm like, oh, God.

I would have liked the wide shot of that whole. Yeah, me just standing, arms length the way for the dog. And they use a nicer voice when they're talking to dogs, too. Yeah, oh, you want me to talk to you like that? I would like that, thank you. Oh, good morning, John. You're so beautiful. Thank you, Megan.

Look at that little tails. Thank you. Making it wagging. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The heads. We've got producer Grace with us, joining us on the line, a bit deflated after spending three hours waiting in line. Outside Noel Leaming's new flagship store for a $99 ninja slushy machine.

Grace, can you give us an update? Guys, I'm not going to lie. I'm really depressed. I really wanted one. How far? How close do you think you were for getting it? Because I know there was a long line with 4.30 in the morning. some people were up?

There were 202 people before me and there were 50 slushies I believe I think I could have been close if not everyone want I just told my whole flat I was like guys tonight we're going to have frozen slushies I'm going to make them and I'm coming on with nothing We've actually got the audio of the moment

that you were told by the wonderful staff at Noel Eaming that the slushies had had all but gone We're out of PlayStation Out of all the apple products Slushie No Ninja Slushes No ninja slashes

unfortunately. Damn. My ninja slushy, all gone. No, it's about pretty early and we've had people waiting for like 4.30. Yeah. Oh, poor grace. It's nice that they told you though, other than like waiting for ages. The Noel Leaming people were so lovely. They kept bringing us candy and showing off their robots and they were just they were very helpful and nice. So I give no hate to them. I'm just, I'm just really disappointed. I just look online. So the ninja pink frose limited edition slushies. Is that the one you wanted? Yeah, that's the one I really want

because pink's my favourite colour. And it's exclusive to Noel Eamings. How much is it when it's not on sale? Yeah, it's a little bit more than $99. But I tell you what, how about if we said to you, thanks to Noel Eamie and Queen Street, their grand opening, we've got one for you.

They're giving you one. They've got one. In fact, the worst news is they had one the whole time for you. Guys, in line, I just went through so many emotions. and you're telling me, oh my God, no, I don't care. Thank you so much. So, yeah, lucky you didn't buy one because they're giving you one. I love Noel Leaming.

Do Noel Leeming still want the $99 transaction to take place? No, it's for you, Grace. For free, Grace. And guess what? They're also giving one for us to give away as well on the radio as well. So someone could text Ninja to 4487. We'd be doing that secretly behind your back all morning. It is buying up the text machine,

and people want that. We'll give that away before 10 o'clock this morning. Ben and Megan. The podcast. The heads. Morning. Holly is in the studio with us. She's a lawyer.

She's got a website called succession.nz. She can help you virtually right around the country through the website with relationship law. That's right. She joins us in the studio now.

Thanks for coming in, mate. Thanks for having me. Now when a lawyer gets in touch with us, we're normally a little bit nervous. But you have got in touch with us because you want to share some information that a lot of people are going to be really interested in.

Yeah, so I'm sort of on a mission to change. the way everyone perceives pre-naps. I feel like they have such a negative connotation. Like everyone hears that word and you think, am I allowed to say gold digger? We want breed up. That kind of connotation or like,

I don't trust you, like you're after all my money. And it's, I'm trying to make everyone understand, we all have one. It's just written by the government. And most of us don't actually know what it says. So what do you mean by the government's already got a pre-nup? Well, once you've been in a relationship for like approximately three years and that's whether like you're married like in a de facto or

anything like that you are opted into a set of rules that most of us don't actually like no so that's sort of deciding what is relationship property what is separate because not everything is separate and relationship property is essentially what is split if you separate so we're all opted into this scheme none of us get a letter saying hey by the way you're like you're like three years three years You now. I own a de facto. Yeah. And so, and then that makes rules about, you know, your income and your savings and your Kiwi saver and your investments and

inheritance, depending on how you use it, whether that stays separate or whether that ends up in the pot as well. So I'm sort of trying to get people to understand, you have one. Most of us don't know what it says. A pre-nup is just literally you both saying, do we like their rules or do we want to make our own? I see. So what are the government's rules? So if you reach this wonderful three-year period,

is it basically split down the middle half and half? Yes and no. You know, it always, as lawyer, it depends. Working in the grey, is that what you guys work in the grey, you know? Is it easy enough to say things you accumulate while in the relationship? Yeah, definitely. So that's the thing. And I think that's a lot of people don't necessarily function that way these days.

Like a lot of people do say, hey, this is ours, but this is also mine. And people have managed their finances and assets completely different. Lots of people I've seen have been like, you know, this is my money, that's their money, and we've got our money, but, you know, one might enjoy, you know, more finer things in life and like to go do experiences and other person, you know, might save. And at that end of, let's say, seven years, they break up. They're like, oh, cool, I've got a savings account of 120K or I've got a 150K investment portfolio. And the other person might be having, like, you know, might have five grand, 10 grand saved

because they were living life and enjoying the things. and then that person goes, oh, you know, I thought, that's mine, I've saved it. It's like, oh, actually, no, that's in the pot and they're going to... Yes. And then the person who's got the 150Ks, like, damn, I should have gone bungee jumping, done all that fun stuff. And, like, I have been divorced. I'm not choking up. I've got something in a dress.

Still quite raw and emotional for it. I've been divorced, and what I didn't realize was you have to split your Kiwi saver. Yes. So my Kiwi saver was larger, much larger than his. Yeah. And I had to split it. Oh, really? And, like, that sucks because you can't really draw it out.

So I have to find half of that in cash to give to my partner. And I haven't actually separated that with my current husband. Can you do a post-n-up? Yes, you can. Okay, great. Yeah. And that's trying to get people to understand. Yeah.

So have you started a business called Succession? Yeah. So, yeah, started my own business. I predominantly do actually wills and enduring powers of attorney. Yeah. I'm super passionate about relationships. relationship property, I've been through my own divorce. I was four years in court

over it, so even as a lawyer with all that experience, and knowing how it works, it still took four years to resolve and cost to almost 100,000 in legal fees. Even with yourself being a lawyer, too. Why didn't you give yourself a discount? You charge yourself

a lot. And also, I guess all the emotional stress of that four years after you've actually parted ways, you're still having to... Still died, yeah. Yeah, it's messy. And I think that's the nice thing as well, is if you do actually opt in to say, hey, if we do ever go our separate ways, here's a clean process on how it's all going to work.

Because I think that's the thing with the government one as well, it's like, here are the rules. But the cost of actually going through that. And I think you could speak to almost anyone who's gone through that will say it is not clean. Like you are very rarely separating from somebody and having it all tidied up within 12 months. Really? Yeah. Like, Holly, if you don't mind standing around, standing around, sitting, do whatever you want. We're going to get into

What's the best way to broach the pre-naps signing topic with your part? John O'Ben and Megan The podcast. We've got Holly Edgidon from Succession.com. She's a lawyer, specialising in relationship law. She's with us this morning talking pre-nups and signing them. It's probably better to do it while you're on good terms and you can make the decision

whereas someone can just choose to be spiteful and a bit of a dick about it. So how do you normalise that conversation then, like Megan's saying, like when you're in good times, How do you go, hey, so without feeling like you're thinking about the end of a relationship? Yeah. You know how things are going really good? But yeah, like, how do you normalise that?

Like, how do I broach my husband and say, hey, I want to post-nup without him being like, are you're thinking about stuff. But you're right, it's better to do it now where things are, you know, I hope it's good, right? Yeah. And something might, it could be just as simple as like, hey, did you know that the government's actually essentially written a pre-nup for us? And I'm sort of learning about it, you know, and I'd like to learn about it together. just to understand what the rules are

and just see whether we sort of are in line with that or whether we've actually got any different opinions. Like, are we functioning slightly different than what it actually says? And then if you are, you can be like, oh, look, it actually doesn't reflect what we are doing. So can we just record what we are doing while you're happy and why you're good? And I feel like that's a better way to approach it to say, well, we've already got one.

We're operating slightly differently. Maybe we should just document what we're already doing. And so if you draw up your own one, does that save you four years of back and forth in the courts? Right. So you can immediately go, oh, this is what we agreed on and go your separate ways. Well, you still have to wait two years. Oh, to finalise of divorce. But yeah, you could split your assets, hopefully a lot quicker because you're like, well, here's our process.

Can you do custody situations pre-break up or does they have to be done afterwards? Like if you've got kids, can you be like, okay, we agree now while everything's sweet, that maybe we would split it like this? or is it not that simple? Kids is completely different than... I really sound like I'm planning something. Now I'm studying away for Andrews too. I'm like, you're really thinking about this. He's going to go home and be like,

did you know the government already has? We're pretty much talking anyway, so it doesn't reflect our values. Yeah, no, kids are a completely different conversation and I think that's the hard thing as well and you do see the blend, but they are two different, like, the two completely different conversations,

like dealing with your relationship assets versus dealing with custody of children. Yeah, sure. So, yeah. This may be a dumb question, but how legal does it have to be? Like, how much it had to be all written out and signed through a lawyer? Or it could be on a napkin at dinner. I mean, what are we talking about?

No, you do have to do it properly. Yeah. So for it to be valid, you both actually have to see different lawyers. Oh, really? You are being made aware of what the default rules are, so what the government one is and what you are opting out of to make your own. And then, because people do them all the time. And they're a legitimate document.

Like, you don't just get to change. your mind five years later and so I don't think that's fair anymore. What's a good point in a new relationship to bring up signing a pre-nep? What period of time? Okay, so I always tell people, like before you get to three years, I always say if you're sort of two years in and you're two and a half or two, two and a half years in, things are good. That's when you, yeah. We actually don't operate this way.

Yeah. Can we just formalize how we operate? And that's what I think is just changing that narrative to be like this is what we're already doing. We're just putting that in writing rather than saying, oh, we wouldn't, the amount of times I've seen, I would never do that to you. And then it happens.

And then it happens. And instead of saying, so you don't screw me over, just be like, in case we break up, like, don't let me screw you over. Yeah. Like I don't want to screw you over. Because I will screw you over. And so what happens if one person says,

no I don't want to sign a pre-dub. I've had clients do that. I had a client. She was like coming up to the three-year mark so I was like, you need to do this. She'd just literally had twin babies. But she owned the house. The lending was all in her name.

Like she was in the earner. And I was like, you need to protect this. Like he refused to sign and she was like, oh well. Did they go this ever once? Wow. Wow. That's a day. Yeah.

You kind of reach your stale, mate. Yeah. And that's the whole point of them. It's saying, but for this agreement's giving me the certainty that this agreement's giving me the certainty that this. will stay mine. So that's the whole thing. Like if you're not actually willing to break up with them, then you have to accept the default rules.

It's really interesting. Succession.n.z. Yeah. Your website where people can get more information. This is really, really interesting. Yeah. Megan, I'm worried for Andrew. Apart from that.

Sounds like Holly's going to be getting a call from Megan. No, I have a family trust free Andrew, so you're screwed. Don't worry about it. He's all good. But yeah, thanks so much. And we'd love to chat you more about stuff like this. Yeah. Yeah.

It's been cool.