Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - MINI: Paddy Gower On Booze
Episode Date: June 13, 2022Paddy Gower joins us to chat about his latest two part documentary 'On Booze' on Three and we find out how he really put himself out there to delve into our Kiwi drinking culture See omnystudio.c...om/listener for privacy information.
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The Hits with the Jono and Ben podcast.
A documentary looking at booze hosted by Paddy Gower.
It's called Paddy Gower on Booze.
And the respected journalist Paddy Gower allows himself to join us right now.
Good morning, Paddy. Nice to see you.
Paddy Gower, welcome. How are you?
I'm really good.
Nice to see you.
Yeah, no, it's really good to see you guys.
You smell magnificent. We hugged Paddy.
He smells like an English meadow.
Link's Africa.
Link's Africa. Link's Africa.
It's the more expensive version of Link.
The kind you buy from the dairy when you've forgotten the other lot.
Lovely to see you back on TV tonight.
Paddy Gower on booze.
It's on tonight and tomorrow.
Now, you've said it's quite confronting in a lot of ways.
You're a bit scared about people seeing this.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I actually really don't like watching it myself.
You do a bit of drinking on the show,
and you see a side to yourself that the public wouldn't have seen before.
Yeah, I mean, quite a few people have probably seen it
because a lot of people have seen me booze down the years.
You know, I've been a pretty big boozer, and I've had a good time.
I've partied a lot.
We do a scene where I'm meant to get boozed,
or I think I was meant to get merry, right?
Yeah. And actually, just I completely overcook it I completely overcook the honey and get way too boozed for the
shoot obviously you guys made tv and everyone just keeps kind of going but you know sort of
woke up the next day and it's like oh jeepers that was bad push the boat out there yeah yeah
was I working yesterday?
Yeah, yeah.
What happened for the most of yesterday?
And I've ended up getting completely boozed on camera.
Actually, you know, if there's anyone out there who really wants to think about their drinking,
you know, film yourself for a few hours
with an HD camera and a sound crew.
Really?
Because you really see a different side of yourself are you like that's not me when
you're watching yourself well i i must admit i was like i didn't realize i looked like that when i
was drunk you know i was like do i really come across like that but that led me to have a really
kind of hardcore conversation with one of my mates you know know, Cor and Dan, we used to do the whole political editing thing together.
And he confronts me in the doco.
You know, we're mates like you two are, you know, professionally,
you know, not outside of work.
No, no, we don't get on at all.
Unless there's a contract for me to hang out with him outside of work.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
It's eight hours a day.
That's it.
We're gone.
Call me on work hours.
So, and we have a similar sort of vibe to you two guys.
And I guess it would be like one of you two hitting each other up about, you know, your drinking.
And it just came like a bolt out of the blue.
You know, like no one, none of my mates had ever hit me up about my drinking before.
You know, like no one had ever said, oh, mate, do you reckon you just booze too much?
Are you going to keep going like this forever?
My drinking's really quite normal.
It's just sort of typical Kiwi male booze drinking.
I would imagine, yeah, like a lot of Kiwis do.
Is that going to change their views,
particularly watching this show, you'd think?
Yeah, I think it'll make a lot of them look at themselves.
Because that's the thing.
Imagine someone with an alcohol problem
to be drinking first thing in the morning all through the day and just sort of meandering their way through the day.
But that's probably not, that's an alcoholic, but there's other versions.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, for me, it's been binge drinking and partying and it's been LinkedIn with socialising and LinkedIn with work and LinkedIn with watching rugby and LinkedIn with being with my mates and going fishing and all of these classic kind of things.
And people will see that tonight.
And people who are expecting a lot of fun and a big investigation and stuff like that, they will be confronted.
They will be shocked.
I think it's about seven minutes in.
It's pretty early in.
And people will be shocked to see me the way they am.
And I don't like it.
But, you know, it tells a story about booze
in new zealand well it's good on you for being so vulnerable i mean you could have easily edited
that out and i could have yeah yeah definitely could have edited it out and we were having a
lot of fun you know we go to crate day one day we so you know we're looking in and having things
that are a lot of fun and then there's obviously the sort of darker side yeah there's this flip
side which is that i that i start to look at what it really does to me and i mean i don't know i mean how
many times have you guys ever hit up a mate about how much they drink you don't and it's quite it
kind of goes unspoken and you're like oh you know we all probably know someone who goes quite hard
and she's i've been guilty of it in the past but you don't sit down and have that conversation with
those people you're like oh that's just you know that're like, oh, that's just Glenn or that's just Sarah.
That's just what they do, you know?
Sorry, Glenn.
Sorry, Sarah.
So now the people know Glenn and be like, oh, geez.
Yeah, Glenn and Sarah.
I've been meaning to tell you for a while.
This is the way you're going to do it?
But you don't go to that chat, do you?
No, you don't.
And honestly, I've never had the chat with anyone.
And Corin was the first time that anyone had had the chat with me.
And it had a really profound effect because it was just like, whoa, I've been told.
I am not alone. I am just one of hundreds of thousands of people who will see themselves tonight.
And that helps me feel a little bit less embarrassed.
I still feel really embarrassed by what people are going to see.
They just didn't have camera crews following you.
And never, ever do that, eh?
Awesome that you're doing this, Paddy.
I think he drinks to deal with me, to be honest.
I know the reasons.
Yeah, I know, I know.
They just need to tighten up that contract a bit, eh?
Less time, less time.
Paddy Gow on booze.
It looks fascinating tonight on three.
Thanks so much for hanging out.
It's always great to see you.
Yeah, great.
Thank you.
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