Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - MINI: THAT 90'S SHOW - Karl Steven
Episode Date: June 24, 2021In this MINI edition of Jono & Ben, Karl Steven joins us for our special edition THAT 90S SHOW!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Jono and Ben, new to your mornings.
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Happy, happy, happy, oh, oh.
We're taking it back to when the hits first started the early 90s.
We bought a fax machine yesterday and we put out the number 093007130.
Didn't know if anyone else had a fax machine because we didn't until yesterday.
We just got two faxes.
Two faxes in a row.
One international fax.
Thank you to our dear friend, our US correspondent,
Johnny Lovegrove in Portland, Oregon.
So they came through and it was an actual fact on the fax.
It was.
So extra points for faxing through a fact there, John.
Sort of the Scottish inventor, Alexander Bain,
actually painted the fax in 1843.
But then the first fax was invented by Alexander Bell in 1876.
There you go.
So that we're now calling it a fax of the day.
Fax of the day, day, day.
It's our new segment based around facts, not facts.
And there's no copyright issues there because it's a different spelling.
It's F-A-X.
Fax of the day, day, day.
And a completely different vehicle to get the fax.
Totally, yeah.
Michael Perkins, too, from Mount Maunganui,
who sent us from Watson Hughes a fax, too. Oh, this is amazing. Keep firing through the fax. Totally, yeah. Michael Perkins too from Mount Maunganui who sent us from Watson Hughes
a fax too.
Oh, this is amazing.
Keep firing through
the faxes, guys.
It's a huge waste of paper
but hey.
We'll recycle those
and do some stuff
at some stage
but we just played
Supergroove,
such an iconic Kiwi group
from the early 90s
and right now
I think we've got
Carl Stephen
from Supergroove
on the phone, is it?
It is.
Thank you.
Lovely to have you on, mate.
How have you been?
Oh, pretty good.
It's a bit hard to sum up how you've been for the last decade or so,
but pretty good is a good summary, Carl.
Yeah, you know, it evens out, you know,
the times and the great times, and then pretty good.
Well, I just saw a reading before you were playing,
Supergroove are playing with Lorde in Christchurch
next year, which is pretty exciting.
I know, freaky. Now, if you don't mind
me asking, Carl, what are you doing nowadays?
I make music
for a lot of film and
television, so yeah, that's the main
thing. Oh, gee whiz, you're like
the Hans Zimmer of New Zealand.
That's right,
but I don't have the velvet jacket.
Now, we're doing a 90s show, and we're reflecting on the 90s,
and Supergroove was such a big part of New Zealand during the 90s.
What memories does it bring back when you think of Supergroove
during that 90s for you?
Well, it was a bit of a whirlwind, you know, the first part of the 90s,
but I definitely remember all that touring of New Zealand that we did.
You know, you mentioned the Lorde show next year. It's
just such a contrast when I think of
touring back in those days. Most
towns literally didn't have a venue
where bands could play. We used
to take all the staging with us,
the PA, the lights, and just basically
build a rock venue
and a nightclub. Attraction
was my first album,
my first CD I ever bought
and I went to United Video,
which also doubled up
as a CD store.
They were diversifying.
Oh, did they sell CDs?
Yeah, the one near me did.
Yeah, and I spent the money
on that.
Then I followed up
with Tractor too.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I was a huge fan.
Yeah, me too, yeah.
Your success came
when you were sort of
17, 18 years old, the whole band. Yeah, we were pretty young fan. Yeah, me too, yeah. But your success came when you were sort of 17, 18 years old, the whole band.
Yeah, we were pretty young.
I mean, if you don't finish high school, you get that edge, you know,
you have that extra advantage.
You've been out in the world that much longer.
I don't know what message you're passing on to the kids nowadays.
Is it dropout?
No.
Become successful?
Well, you know, just if you know what you're interested in,
I think that's a great thing.
Because obviously yourself and Shea were up front with the band, weren't you?
Yeah, yeah, we were sort of on the microphones.
Yeah, no, it was very cool.
And you even played with New Kids on the Block, I was just reading before.
You're open for New Kids on the Block.
How's that for a 90s throwback?
Yeah, that's right. That was good.
It was a very exciting
show for us. I mean, usually we play with
bands like Pumpkinhead
and way more
alternative bands, which we also really
like. Yeah, and it's
funny, you meet a lot of middle-aged women
these days and they say
quietly, first time
I saw you was at New Kids on the Block.
So yeah, we've made a few
new friends of the music.
What was your
favourite Super Groove song?
I guess, sitting inside my head
I'm pretty pleased with.
It's got the emotions
and Shea sings it so beautifully
and yeah, I feel like we
it's funny,
recently I listened to old demos of that song
that we recorded before the album.
And that song like had a swing, big band bridge
and it was like almost like a reggae groove
and it didn't change chords.
And we just kind of completely rewrote the song
going into the album sessions.
And I think we did a bit of a good job
knocking it together from a real piece of crap into something like this, you know?
It was an amazing song.
Yeah, it's a beautiful song.
Yeah, it is.
The other one I want to talk to you about was, of course, Can't Get Enough was another
huge song, and your rapping in there was so quick through some of that part.
You know, I was young, you know, you'd just eat a packet of Skittles and away you go.
Yeah.
Munchos, Munchos, wasn't that your, back in the day?
Oh, that's right.
In fact, I talked about touring.
We did that Munchos commercial,
and that was like what opened the door for us
to a lot of those nightclubs that we transformed into venues for the night,
you know, because they were like, what? A band touring from Auckland?
We don't want to know about that. And then
the manager, Stu, would say,
oh, they're the ones from the Munchos commercial.
Munchos commercial.
Oh, hey, we'll have them.
They're the ones from the Munchos
commercial. That'll
book the gigs. Well, listen,
congratulations on all the success
the band has had
and continues to have.
Do you still have the lung capacity to pull off that quick wrapping
at Electric Avenue next year, Carl?
That is the real question.
I think it's best to think of it more like a sports match, you know,
like what's going to happen, who's going to win,
who's going to get a bad injury.
Yeah, that's how I'm thinking of it.
Are there actual lyrics?
Because I remember, I think it was in the album sleeve,
they had the lyrics all just written on top of each other, basically.
His for his, better and worse.
That's right, yes, that was me writing.
I wrote out all that junk for the album artwork.
So that kind of gave you a get-out-of-jail-free pass
if you kind of screw it up in concert.
You're like, oh, well, there's no actual lyrics.
Exactly.
I'll just use that as my lyric sheet on stage as a memory cue.
Lovely speaking with you this morning, mate.
You keep well and it sounds like you're nailing life.
So keep on trucking.
Thank you.
You too.
Nice to talk to you.
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