Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - Oysters catch what?!?
Episode Date: June 10, 2024Welcome to the untamed realm of the world's Wild Wild Web! Today we discuss a world-first vaccine to help protect oysters against... Herpes?! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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We just learned that oysters get, well, I'll tell you in a second
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Well, Ben, just as we turn on the microphones to record this episode of the podcast,
a bombshell, a real bombshell inside an oyster shell.
Yeah.
So oysters get herpes.
Who knew?
Who would have known?
They get sores on their...
Shell, yeah.
And this virus is quite bad for the oyster industry.
Yeah, so it's been wiping out 70% of the stock of oysters in New Zealand,
which makes a lot of money for those that...
To be honest, oysters are not entirely the most attractive of all the seafoods.
For them to have this tarnished on them.
Yeah, so now a Kiwi scientist has been working on a vaccine
they thought was impossible for shellfish,
and they've made a breakthrough.
Now, it was on the news.
Now, I want to see if they...
I haven't listened to this audio.
This was on 3 News the other night.
I want to see if they use the word herpes or not, okay? I'm just going to play it off my computer, so to see if they – I haven't listened to this audio. This was on 3 News the other night. I want to see if they use the word herpes or not.
Okay?
I'm just going to play it off my computer.
So, I don't know.
I haven't listened to this.
We'll see if they do.
Sure.
They just started developing a world-first vaccine to protect oysters against a deadly disease
that has crippled our multi-million dollar industry.
Pacific oyster farmers have been struggling to stay afloat since the herpes virus began killing them.
They did?
Oh, they did.
With a straight face, too.
Straight face, no laughter.
Sam Hayes looked over and nodded, but nothing.
Was that Mora?
That's Michael Mora, Mora the Explorer.
Nailed it.
And he nailed it.
He was like, oh, it's coming up, herpes.
But no, I would have been like.
I don't know if you've heard me do the news in the morning,
but they wouldn't have got past me without a giggle.
No.
You couldn't have.
It's not a funny thing to have have and we shouldn't laugh at it,
but it's a funny,
funny word to say for some reason.
So that would imagine
that other sea life catches.
Apparently fish and stuff can get it
because I was looking into whether,
because if they get it,
they die, right?
They,
they can die from the herpes virus,
the oysters,
but you can still eat them.
And we,
and we're fine.
And we're fine.
Right. We don't catch oyster herpes. Yeah.
Imagine that, if you got it, and then you're like, it's from the oysters
there. Your wife's like, yeah, right, Ben.
I had a dozen bluff oysters.
I got the gonorrhea from the shellfish.
A great excuse, maybe that's what
you could use, you know, there's your little get out of jail.
You only heard it here on the, what was this?
The Wild Wild Web podcast. You got pregnant from the oyster. You know, there's your little get out of jail. You only heard it here on the, what was this, the Wild Wild Web podcast?
It is wild.
You got pregnant
from the oyster.
Yeah.
You love oysters.
I do.
I do.
I enjoy oysters.
Yeah,
they're good.
How?
Just like,
no,
just with like
a bit of lemon
or something,
it's good.
Yeah,
just raw oysters
is great.
Do you chew them?
No,
just kind of just like
knock them back.
Oh,
I mean,
you're kind of there.
It's nice.
You still get the flavour and it's nice and I enjoy it, yeah. What is the flavour? Sal them? No, just kind of just like. What's the point then? Knock them back. Oh, I mean, you're kind of in there. It's nice. You still get the flavor in.
It's nice and I enjoy it.
Yeah.
What is the flavor?
Salty?
Yeah, I don't know.
Mucousy?
I guess it's one of those things too.
You do know you don't have it that often.
So you do go, oh, this is a flash thing, you know, to have.
And I enjoy that.
As often you'd have it with, on a special occasion, you might have some bubbles or something
like that.
And you go, oh, this is nice and moisture and champagne.
It was mate's birthday the other and champagne so you're just trying
to be fancy
it's just trying to be fancy
yeah really
but I don't
I don't like go
I enjoy the taste
I enjoy it
I can see why people
don't like it
I can do muscles
tell you what I love
those bloody
Westpac muscles
you know you get them
in the plastic container
Westpac
yeah it's like
I think it's a fundraiser
for the bank
fundraiser for the helicopter
little plastic sort of things
That you get at the supermarket
And stuff like that
They're very
And the
The sauce that they marinate in
Or the brine
Very strong sauce
Oh it is
You could drink that
Yeah
Have you tried that
Do you like mussels
I'm not
I'm not a huge fan
Of anything under the sea
To be honest
Like not even snapper
Blue cod
Yeah
Not
What
I might eat it
At the fish and chip shop
Maybe
But I wouldn't like
Go out of my way
To cook fish
So you wouldn't
In a restaurant situation
If you're going out
To Lone Star or something
You're not going to have
Fish and chips?
Not really
Wow
Okay
Just anything above land
Yeah
Above
It's devastating for my dad
He likes all that
Kind of stuff
Yeah I really enjoy seafood
It feels a lot healthier
Than a lot of the other stuff
It does
A lot of the time.
But I wish, I so wish, because you go to like those buffets and all the seafood looks amazing.
Yeah.
And you feel fancy when people are eating like prawns or like crayfish.
But I just, I'm not into it.
Tell you what, we are.
Power.
Power is good.
Is it?
Yeah.
We have a work conference dinner and boy, oh boy.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of.
I've been in preparation.
It's a buffet.
It's an all-you-can-eat buffet and you need to clear some stomach space for this buffet.
Yeah, that shellfish at that restaurant, it's eight at the Quartus that we're talking about.
Yeah.
You don't eat during the day.
No.
I never witness you eat.
Don't you worry.
You watch me gorge at night.
I'll be like, whoa, what? You watch me gorge at night Sometimes we go
Oh what
You have double dinners
At night and stuff
So it kind of cancels out
Not eating during the day
Oh right
It's like just have a lunch
And then you can have
A normal dinner
And you'll be fine
Double dinners
That's right
You're stomach going
Oh I need to eat
Gotta eat
Did I order two
Johnny Cash stashes
At Lone Star
Yeah
Oh my god
Okay I'm going to
Stop worrying about you then
Yeah no don't worry
You're fine
Tell you what should be worried
That buffet
Shaking in its boots
But yes they have
Seafood on display in a buffet
Environment does look very appetising
And they have like a whole meat section
Like you pick your raw meat
And they cook it to your liking in front of you
Fancy I've only ever been there once
Very fancy
Okay so no fish Nothing under the ocean and they cook it to your liking in front of you. They're fancy. I've only ever been there once, but it's very fancy.
Okay, so no fish, nothing under the ocean.
Sorry, just saying.
My daughter, we bought six oysters up north once and I was like, just try it to my daughter.
She was young.
I was like, try it.
And she did.
She didn't like it, which is fair enough.
And she sort of spat it back out.
And I'm like, well, I'm going to eat that now
because I paid for six.
They're quite expensive. So Amanda's like, my wife's like, did you just eat that? And I'm like, well, I'm going to eat that now because I paid for six. They're quite expensive.
So Amanda's like,
my wife's like,
did you just eat that?
And I'm like, yeah, I did.
It's got herpes.
There's nothing.
A bit of saliva
isn't going to make it any worse.
So I don't do it again.
And they're so,
they all look all mangled up anyway.
Yeah, it wouldn't have affected
the texture of it.
No, no.
Everyone judged me a little bit by that.
But anyway, sorry, Kara.
Okay, we're going to lock down the greatest cuisine.
Jeez, I had Indian the other night, and boy, they do a good vegetarian options Indian cuisine.
That is quite rich on the daily.
I'm quite fond of Thai.
Yeah, Thai's really good.
Thai and Mexican and Japanese probably.
Yeah, they're good.
Mexican's good, but again, it can be a bit heavy sometimes.
Nachos.
What about Italian?
Italian's great.
I mean, geez, the cuisine around the world's great.
That's bloody good.
I don't know how you go to Italy and they're all tiny and skinny.
I'm like, you're eating carbs and breading.
Because they're not having meat lovers.
We've turned it into this whole different, we've bastardized the Italian cuisine.
And their servings of pasta are quite small.
You're like, where's the rest of it?
Yeah, and they're eating a lot of great food that's kind of fresh,
and tomatoes, and simple sort of stuff as well, not processed stuff.
So you need a Turanian diet.
Yeah, they're doing all right.
A croissant.
Domio, they're chucking that in all their dishes.
The Domio grits.
Yeah, all the pastries and stuff.
Because you make all your pasta sauce from scratch,
so you must be quite the foodie.
What's your favourite cuisine to make?
Probably Thai.
Probably Thai.
Really?
Yeah.
Do you do a good bloody pad thai?
Pad thai is great, but again, it's the butter chicken of the Thai world, isn't it?
It's the New Zealand
Just
Bit of noodles
Bit of the other stuff
Bit of goodness
Yeah
Love a pad thong
We're going to take a break
For this
We'll be back
Very shortly
Welcome back
Nasi goreng
Do you do that
No I've never made that
That's delicious
Yeah
I do like making
My own pasta though
What
You don't even buy pasta
Packaged pasta.
No.
Have you got the little, yeah, the thing.
That's what we need.
No, but it's honestly really easy.
My daughter made some the other day, but we don't have the little, I don't know what it's called, that kind of.
Pasta maker.
Pasta maker thing.
So she made it from line and she was right, but she needed that sort of wheelie thing that kind of.
But like if you're making lasagna, nothing beats if you just make your own pasta and roll it into a sheet.
It's like, it's divine, darling.
It's divine.
Oh, man, she's a foodie.
Ben, you got into the homemade sushi game.
Remember when we took you out?
Yeah.
How'd that go?
We took your sushi over to the professionals outside here and we took it to a sushi proprietor and he said it's very watery.
Why is it dripping?
He's like, the first time I've seen sushi dripping.
Like, was your rice watery? Oh, no, because it like the first time I've seen sushi dripping like was your rice
oh no
because it was our first time
doing it
and then we were like
we'll bring it in
and I was like
so I brought some in
and yeah
and it wasn't
we're giving it a crack
we're learning
and then it was like
the vice
so it was a little bit
yeah
it was a little bit
on the watery side
but where did the water
come from
I think just
maybe
that's what he was asking
we didn't drain the rice
quite enough
that we had
yeah
so yeah
but hey we're giving it a bash.
Do you still do this at Homemade Sushi?
Sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes we do that.
It's quite fun.
Did you put the special liquid in the...
Homemade dumplings is fun to make too with the kids as well.
Yeah.
Have you got a bamboo steamer?
No, we need to get one of those.
We do.
We do that in the rice cooker.
Yeah.
Buy some great stuff from the sort of Asian supermarket.
Yeah, yeah.
Put them in and make up your dumplings.
It's great.
Yummy.
Yeah. No, also... I was like, nah. Yeah, yeah. Put them in, make up your dumplings. It's great. Yummy. Yeah.
No, also.
I was like, nah.
Yeah, nah.
He puts some of the Kranskis
in the microwave.
I've started now.
No, you've got,
you made me all self-conscious
about that.
I do them in the frying pan now.
Which adds, you know,
adds minutes.
It adds minutes
to the preparation time.
You're a foodie now too.
Yeah.
Taking Kranskis from a microwave
To a frying pan
Do you have like a dish
Like say someone's like bring a dish
And you had to cook something what would you cook
Listen for a barbecue
I bring a potato salad
Homemade potato salad
Are you making the sauce
What was he making sauce
No you just said family recipe Family recipe doesn't include Are you making the sauce? What was he making sauce?
No, you just said family recipe.
Family recipe doesn't include Eater from the supermarket. Have you heard of Best Foods Mayonnaise mixed with mustard?
No, that's a recipe.
Yeah, but I haven't made the mayonnaise.
Oh, no.
Oh, right, yeah.
The sauce base.
Yeah.
No, that's legit.
And then I'd probably go the Nazi garang.
Yeah,ught myself that
A few years ago
Yeah
The other one
I do like bacon and egg pie
As well
But it's a lot of admin
It's a lot of
You're making your pastry
Ask the question
You're only going to be disappointed
Every time you ask this question
Yeah
What about you?
What's your signature dish?
I don't know
I've got A couple of things I imagine you have a lot You have a? I don't know. I've got a few.
I imagine you have a lot.
You have a lot.
I like to make a proper like Greek moussaka that's yum.
And I make the pasta.
Well, it doesn't always have pasta.
But like you're making like a nice bechamel sauce that sits on top.
Yeah, you are.
You're a whole other level.
You are, yeah.
It's good though.
It's delicious.
Because you guys had that great thing the other day too,
which I thought was great.
You had a party and people had to bring something
they'd made from social media.
But do you know what?
A lot of them, like everyone there is really good cooks,
but a lot of those dishes, when we finally made them,
we're like, oh, they're not actually that great.
They just look aesthetically pleasing.
Yeah, they just look great.
You're like, oh.
That's what Instagram is.
You just got to look great.
No substance behind it.
It's pretty much, yeah.
It's pretty much sums up Instagram right there.
It looks great.
Exactly.
Not a lot behind it.
It doesn't taste that good in your mouth.
What's your signature dish?
I don't know.
It depends on what the occasion is probably.
Yeah.
Wednesday night, August.
Yeah.
I would cook probably five nights out of the week
Myself
But I'm not the
Like Amanda would be
Way better
I can do flashed up
But I just
I'm probably just like that
Day to day
Sort of cook
What's for dinner tonight then?
Dinner's not
Actually we're not
Well tonight's
Busy one tonight
So we'll probably end up
Eating sushi or something
What was for dinner last night?
Ben we just want something
That you make
Chicken kev
I made chicken kevs
Well not from scratch though
Last night we had some chicken kevs
lots of vegetables
are they from the
cordon bleu family
the kevs
yeah
it was good
it was actually nice
chicken kevs are good
yeah
baked potatoes
and then my wife's
vegetarian
so she had
she didn't have that
she had salmon
so yeah
made some salmon
so yeah
I had salmon the night before
which was nice
salmon is good
I know I wish
see that's another seafood.
It looks really nice.
And you just chuck some tinfoil on.
It doesn't take much to make a salmon look and taste amazing.
You put salmon in the dishwasher.
Yeah.
And it's something, you know, put some brown sugar or soy sauce or whatever it is.
It looks great.
Lemon and chuck it in.
And everyone's like, oh, this is so good.
There's so much you can eat under the ocean.
And none of it appeals to you.
So it tastes fishy. It tastes like the ocean
That is the downside
Everyone's like salty
You're a foodie
I know
I'd eat everything else
Any vegetable
I'd eat everything else
Parsnip
Potato
Beetroot, mushrooms Everything Okra, whatever everything else. Parsnip, bloody parsnip. Yeah, I love parsnip. Potato. Love it.
Beetroot, mushrooms,
like everything.
Okra, whatever.
You know the guy at the roast shop
down the road from my house,
you know how they
classic corner store roast shops.
Jeez, I tell you what,
you would not get
a better potato.
Oh, the roast shops
do a great potato.
Oh, and I'm like,
what's the recipe?
And he won't hand it over.
He's taken that to his grave.
I feel like every roast shop
in the country
does amazing potatoes.
They do. Don't they deep fry them whole shop in the country does amazing potatoes. They do.
Don't they deep
fry them whole?
Yeah, I think
they might.
They boil them,
rough them up,
and then they
deep fry them.
Is that all you
need to do?
I think so.
Beat them up a bit?
Yeah.
Geez, they are
magnificent.
Yeah, they're always
really good, aren't
they?
Yeah.
Well, you make
it from scratch.
Did you grow the
potato from scratch?
Did you grow it
from a little baby?
You're putting too much on these things.
They're really easy.
Yeah.
You're making it into a big deal.
It's a time thing sometimes.
Life's made life convenient.
But it's my catharsis, you know.
Well, if you enjoy it.
My thing is because you love the preparation of the food, obviously.
Yeah.
The process of that.
Do you get to the dinner eating time and you're like, ugh, not that hungry?
No. No? No.
No?
No, I'm pretty ready for it.
But the issue is sometimes it takes like, sometimes it takes a while.
It can take two hours.
Yeah.
And then it's gone in like 15 minutes.
Right.
And then some, like the kids won't eat it half the time.
Oh, gosh.
But they'll go and have a bath and drink their frigging bath water and be like, yum.
Like you're just weeding that.
Mum's made an Italian baguli.
Fresh from scratch.
You're drinking bath water that your sister weeds.
The Yaguli's drink.
I get frustrated when I'm making recipes that they say,
oh, it'll take 50 minutes, and it doesn't.
I get annoyed if it takes me longer than what it says.
That frustrates me.
What are they averaging there?
Averaging off your normal manta. Because I'm like, I'll just take a moment, if it takes me longer than what it says. Yeah. Yeah, that frustrates me. What are they averaging that off to? I don't know.
Averaging off your normal manta.
Because I'm like, I'll just take a moment
and then I have to read and don't want to do it properly
because I don't want to rush that sort of thing.
And then I'll be like, oh, it's taking me a lot longer
than what you, you know.
Yeah.
So that frustrates me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think they go off like a Nadia Lim Gordon-Ramsey.
And they're probably great.
And they're probably just doing it and they know what they're,
but I'm like, I'll take a moment.
They don't want to get it wrong.
Yeah.
Hey, well, this has been making me very hungry, actually, It's going to be great. And they're probably just doing it and they know what they're doing. But I'm like, I'll take a moment. They don't want to get it wrong. Yeah.
Well, this has been making me very hungry, actually, the last 15 minutes.
So thank you very much for listening.
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