Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - September 09 - Ben's Dog Did A Double Dump, Oh-Wow Wednesday, Is Social Media Helpful Or Harmful For Society?
Episode Date: September 9, 2020Today on the show Ben told an awkwardly unfortunate story about something that happened with his dog yesterday. It was a shambles. We also did another round of News Jargon, where Jono had to call a ca...fe, make a reservation, all while slipping in topical words that Ben was holding up in front of him. We also chatted to the owner of Shrek the Sheep, which you may remember as the sheep that hadn't been shorn in 6 years (he carried 27kg of wool on him!) Enjoy the poddies amigos!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to the Jono and Ben podcast.
Hey Ben, welcome to the podcast.
Hey, thanks Jono.
Welcome to your own podcast.
It's great to be here.
I shouldn't have to welcome you to the podcast.
No, it's nice to be welcome to the podcast.
I feel like I'm a guest on your podcast right now.
We're going to deep dive.
Let's start with your childhood.
I get it.
Wow.
Okay, here we go.
Now, have you seen the election hoardings around the place?
Well, you would have.
It's campaign time.
Yes, yeah.
And Jerry Brownlee from the National Party.
Have you seen his picture?
So it's got him and Judith Collins on the National Party. Have you seen his picture? So it's got him
and Judith Collins
on the National Party.
Oh, they're like strong team.
Strong economy.
He looks confused
in the photo.
It looks like it's
the first time
he's ever taken a photo.
Oh, really?
First time he's ever
seen a camera.
He's kind of like
stunned.
He's shocked.
Oh, maybe it wasn't
because of that.
He looks equally
confused.
Oh, the National Party go through a lot of people, like all the parties.
He's like, mate, I'm on these now.
I'm deputy now.
Oh, wow.
Oh, okay.
Because two weeks ago there was another guy and another girl.
Oh, so I'm here.
Oh, yeah, okay.
I can understand his confusion.
So maybe that's where it comes to.
So taking photos is the most awkward thing, isn't it?
Yeah.
I'm just no good at taking photos.
Personal photos, professional photos. No, that can be quite an awkward thing. I find, I'm just no good at taking photos personal photos professional photos
no that can be quite
an awkward thing I
find them we've talked
about this many times
before the uncomfortable
silence yeah yeah
and then you go
take a photo and
you're like hmm
silence well you
don't you make a bit
of a soundtrack you're
like yeah you make a
bit of a photo noise
which is good to have
some I know because
we find if you talk
your way through go
oh let's take a photo
you always get some
weird face thing
because you're talking yeah a half shut eye and something like that, let's take a photo, you always get some weird face thing as you're talking.
With a half-shut eye and something like that.
So you kind of need to pose in those situations.
I reckon I'd get a bit anxious taking a nude, wouldn't you?
Oh, yeah, that's not for me.
If you're taking a photo closed as bad, maybe a nude photo.
That would be the most awkward thing ever.
Well, every part of me would be anxious.
All sorts of anxious bits.
Yeah.
Well, well, enjoy the podcast today.
We started there.
We started with Jerry Brownlee.
I know.
Ended up with me being nervous about taking a nude.
Yeah.
You'd take a good nude.
No, I wouldn't.
No.
You just wouldn't know how to pose.
Yeah.
That would be my thing.
No, you're right.
You would be like.
Yeah.
Some people can do it well, and they do do it well.
You know, some seductive people, they know what to do.
I'd just be like, oh.
I'd be sort of hunched over covering this yeah no one wants to see that looking what you know jeez what's wrong with this guy is he meant to be don't look at me is he a prisoner
of war or something uh now today it's meant to be sexy oh the podcast though we've got the kiwi
referendum we're looking for the most iconic new ze thing. It's a big battle today, and we talked to the guy who owned Shrek the sheep.
Now, this did nothing for New Zealand stereotypes, the fact that a sheep became world famous,
but very interesting story nonetheless.
I mean, it did sway away from the fact that, you know, we weren't having loving relationships
with sheep, so that was a good thing.
No, it's true.
But everyone was like, a lot more to grab onto with all the hair you know yeah as well as that on the podcast today we really uh we delve into
something uh we wouldn't normally go into you know those more serious topics but there's a bit
of a serious uh story human trafficking going around uh social media uh today there's uh
there's a video being shared it's quite disturbing so we thought we'd talk to someone who knows about
what you should do to protect,
particularly your kids, from watching stuff like that on the internet.
Yeah, do you ban them from the internet?
Is that even a thing?
Can you do it in this day and age?
Oh, maybe.
Maybe.
We'll talk to him on the podcast today.
Enjoy.
The radio version of Morning Breath.
It's Jono and Ben on the hits.
Now, my dog, Bo.
I've got a big, white, fluffy Samoyed dog, Bo.
I love your dog, Bo.
He's like a big, fluffy, uncoordinated member of your family.
He's always,
every time I see you
reunite with Bo,
he's always so happy
to see you.
He is happy, yes.
You'd think the novelty
would have worn off by now.
No, it's like
brown dog day for Bo.
Oh, you again.
How are you, mate?
He's jumping up and down on you.
But he did something yesterday
that he hasn't done before
and yeah,
it was quite an embarrassing situation.
Because he's done some stuff before.
He's fought you at walking with him.
He's dragged you into an estuary in front of a group of people.
He straddled a baby.
Remember he straddled a baby that came to your house?
It was when he was really, really young.
He now knows you don't do that.
He's taken underwear off the guy next door's line.
All that sort of stuff.
Which is unusual because the washing line's quite high. He's a underwear off, you know, the guy next door's line, all that sort of stuff, you know. Which is unusual because the washing line's quite high.
He's a big dog.
He doesn't get much, much distance off the ground when you jump.
In fact, I've never even seen him leave the ground.
Anyway, it's not what we have.
He doesn't look like he should leave the ground, like an A380.
He's that big.
Now, owners of dogs would know out there that, you know,
when you go take your dog for a walk, you know,
we take a plastic bag or something to pick up, you know,
their business when they do business.
I like to use my bare hands.
Just wander around with it.
What do I do with this?
And now I've been walking, we've had the dog, I think,
for almost five years and, you know,
and I've been walking him pretty much every day
and this has never happened before.
But yesterday I was walking him and he did his business
and I was like, well, I'll pick it up and put it into the little bag
and you carry that awkwardly
down the road for a while.
And it's got an unusual amount of heat.
I know.
That disturbing amount of warmth.
Yeah, you're walking that down the road
like a sort of badge of honor.
I don't know why.
It's not like you put it in your pocket
or anything, is it?
But then I came across one of those cute,
have you seen those around,
those cute little dog bins?
Oh, yes.
They look like a dog.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're really cute.
And then you open them up
and they don't smell that great. But they're cute. They look cute. The green ones? Yeah, they don't smell cute.? They look like a dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're really cute. And then you open them up and they don't smell that great.
But they're cute.
They look cute.
The green ones?
Yeah, they don't smell cute.
They've got like a dog's head that you open up
and that's where you dispose of your, you know, your dog's matter.
So I disposed a bit of there and then I carried on my walk.
And then we were sort of walking past this lady's house
and she was sort of an elderly lady.
She was out in the garden and the dog sort of stopped by the berm
and sort of started, you know, sort of started you know sort of squatting
oh yeah
he started assuming the position
you know that position
because they start to cower over
and look embarrassed
like they're committing
the worst crime in the world
and she could see
and she was looking as well
oh you were getting the evil eye
and I'm like uh oh
we've already been once
I've used my place
I've used my bag
my bag's gone
I'm like don't
you're going to have to use your sock
or something
this is not the second
this is the second
and he was like yep
and he did he's like I am I am I'm very, don't. You're going to have to use your sock or something. This is not the second. This is the second. And he was like, yep. And he did. He's like, I am.
I am. I'm very regular. High fibre.
You feed me stuff. You know what you
put in me. You know what's going to come out.
I mean, the dog has to do his thing. And then the lady's
looking at me like, you need to clean that up.
I'm like, oh yeah. Like you've committed
a crime upon humanity. Right on
her bum in front of her house. Yeah, like she's almost
like the noob.
In front of me.
And he's got nothing.
He's carrying nothing.
And I'm kind of yelling, I've just got, I've got,
I've got nothing, but I'll go find something.
And you sort of race up the street looking for something to come back and clean up.
Oh, so you did it and then ran off as well.
So I'll come back and she's kind of looking at me.
She's like, he's not coming back.
He's not coming back.
I ended up going to a bus stop and there was a bin next
to the bus stop.
Then I'm rifling through the bin.
I'm like, this is not, this is a low point.
And looking through it, I found like a juice box type thing.
There was no plastic bags in there, but I opened up the juice box.
Like a juice container.
Yeah, like a cardboard.
I opened that up and I was like, oh, maybe I could come back and scoop.
Improvising.
At this moment, you're like, why do I have a dog?
Why do I do this to myself?
I could just be walking down the road, not having to do this.
You're right, we're a bit at a bus stop.
Anyone knows, oh, isn't that guy from that used to be on TV?
Look at him, Jesus.
He's getting low.
He's now eating out of a rubbish bin.
So I come back with my sort of soggy, wet juice box.
Told you I'd be back.
There you go.
She's still standing there, like, looking, shaking her head.
Scooped it underneath, and it was all kind all kind of like manky and soggy.
And I was like, yeah, all good.
Big smile.
We're like, here we go.
All sorted.
And it just like gave way and it just dropped on my foot and everything as well.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, yeah.
Does she continue to shake her head?
She sounds like the type of lady who wants to wake up in the morning
and just start shaking her head all day at people.
I came back.
Look at it.
I've got it all over my shoes and everything.
But anyway, I was like, oh, there you go, lady.
So I didn't have to try to scoop that up
and then carry that up the road.
And this is great.
So have you burnt your shoes now?
Yeah, the shoes.
I don't think I'll be using my shoes again.
That's true love.
That's true love.
You wouldn't do that for me, would you, Ben?
No.
But I'm not a dog.
So it'd be weird if I...
Well, not for the second time.
Just once.
For the first time.
Rub your nose in it.
This is your new breakfast.
Health Star rating, still pending.
It's Jono and Ben on the hits.
Wow, oh, wow.
Can you make Jono and Ben go...
Wow.
Wow.
It's Oh Wow Wednesday.
Was that on here when I was going to pre-text?
So if I go like this, hey, Ben Humphrey is pre-text.
Yeah, no, he's going to do this definitely on here.
Oh, it says talk to control the button, but it's talk to the control room.
Yeah.
But I'm talking to everyone.
Yeah.
I think you have to be off.
And, Gam, can you hear me too, Ben Humphrey?
Yeah, I think everyone can hear you.
Oh, yeah, great.
I just want to make sure everyone can hear me.
Okay.
There's a few texts too to look at there, Ben Humphrey.
Okay.
If you can wow us with something, it's a wow Wednesday.
You'll win $20 hell pizza.
That's how the game works.
Could be a fact.
Could be a talent.
Whatever it is, it's just got to wow us.
I'm, you know, I'm someone that can get wowed easily.
Easily wowed.
Easily wowed.
You can wow anything.
This is just like Got Talent, except with less V-neck T-shirts from Simon Cowell.
Jeezy runs a deep V. I'm pretty sure throughout the season the Vs get V-neck T-shirts from Simon Cowell. Jeezy runs a deep V.
I'm pretty sure throughout the season the Vs get deeper on his T-shirts.
Sort of end up below his belly button by the grand final.
They do, like a Borat Mankini by the end of it.
Let's go to Sarah in Auckland.
Welcome to Wow Wednesday, Sarah.
You've got to wow us, got to wow the whole panel, though.
Okay, this one's actually a hidden challenge of mine.
It's got a bit of a back story.
When I was, I think, first year of high school when you go on school camp
and they split all our groups up
and the teacher said,
whoever can tell me what the quadratic formula is
can have dinner first.
And some other kid got it
and I just decided I never want to be played like that again yeah you never want to be out quadratic formula
again in your life it was one day it happens once but you don't do it twice
never again never again yeah I don't want to have it again so I memorized it
from that day on and I've never forgotten it now and now when you're
gonna give us the example of this so tell us but you you're not reading it
off anything can you swear on that I'm us. But you're not reading it off anything? Can you swear on that?
I'm not what, sorry?
You're not reading it off anything?
No, I'm trying.
We can't see you?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm just going to take your word for it.
Okay.
All right.
Well, we are very trusting people.
So read out the quadratic formula.
I'll read out.
Sorry, remember off the top of your head.
It's minus B plus minus the square root of B squared
minus 4AC all over 2A.
And that gets you dinner first.
Wow!
Wow.
I'm going to say wow.
I'm going to say wow.
I mean, it's okay.
Like, wow.
Yeah, I was like,
is this going to go on for 40 seconds or something?
I was over and done with it.
I wowed.
I mean, if I went on the internet, I can remember that by tomorrow.
You know?
Oh, okay.
This time tomorrow?
Yeah.
I've remembered it for 12 years.
You haven't wowed me.
You haven't wowed.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
It's not a wower.
Are you not wowed by that?
No.
12 years.
It's retained that information.
I mean, it's great.
You know it, but it's not a well
it's not a well
I remember my first
landline phone number
from 12 years ago
are you going to
well that
yes
hey Sarah
it's not an open
forum now mate
it's not an open
judging panel
you don't see them
go on X Factor
you don't see the
contestants get involved in the decision making.
Oh my goodness, a yes from me.
What do you reckon, guys?
They'd all get through.
I love your work, Sarah.
Have a great day.
Thanks, guys.
Very funny.
Let's go to Nicole in Bocano.
It's Wow Wednesday.
You've got to wow us, Nicole.
Yeah, I've got a fact for you.
Lego sells more rubber tyres than any tyre company in
the whole world. Wow!
Wow!
More rubber tyres? What? Are they
a tyre company? I think they're the biggest manufacturer
of tyres. Oh, on the Lego
little Lego pieces. But when it comes to tyres,
no matter if it's cars or anything,
just when it comes to tyres, the biggest manufacturer
is not your bloody Michelin that you've banged
on about before.
Wow. It's Lego, yeah.
That is a wow.
And Ben knew that, and he's even wowing again.
Yeah, yeah.
That's impressive, Nicole.
Well done.
$20 Hell Pizza voucher.
We'll go to Nicola in Taranaki.
Welcome, Nicola.
Hello.
You're on the air.
Wow Wednesday.
Wow us.
I've got a fact for you.
Blue whales can create a fart bubble big enough to fit a horse inside.
Wow. Wow.
Wow.
A horse?
A horse.
Hold on.
Hold on.
How have they tested this?
Conditions have to be just perfect.
You've got a whale there who's fitting slightly gassy and a horse.
And a horse.
Is this on land?
Anyway, you've wowed us.
You get $20.
We'll take your face value for that. Should we do one more?
We've got Bears in New Plymouth. We'll take one more for
Wow Wednesday. You're on the air, Bears. Go for it.
Yeah, g'day. How you doing?
Oh, Bears, sounds like trouble.
Here we go. I can say the longest
place name in the world.
Now, this is in New Zealand, isn't it?
It is. It certainly is.
Bring it home, Bears. Wow us,
my friend.
Tell me to pocket-tagging
any comment here,
okay,
if anyone kicking a tohu.
Wow.
That's it.
Yeah.
Did we get there?
All we've got to take
is a word for it.
I don't know.
I'm not wowing.
I'm confused.
What do you mean confused?
Is that the longest one?
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
Is it?
I thought it sounded longer
when I've heard it before.
Okay, well, John. I can't. I'll give you a wow, Baz. Wow. Yeah, it is. Is it? Yeah. I thought it sounded longer when I've heard it before. Okay, well,
I can't...
I'll give you a wow, Paz.
Wow.
Yeah, well done.
Well done.
Thank you.
New $20 pizza.
Wow Wednesday.
Back next Wednesday.
See if you can wow us.
You've got a week to prepare.
Some people skip breakfast,
the meal,
and also this show.
It's Jono and Ben on the Hits.
Now, there was a bit of hacking
going on in New Zealand.
Computer hacking.
Some of the websites
were hacked into recently,
which is a little bit scary. Yeah, stock exchange and things like that. And even the hackers got a bit of hacking going on in New Zealand, computer hacking. Some of the websites were hacked into recently, which is a little bit scary.
Yeah, Stock Exchange and things like that.
And even the hackers got hold of me as well.
And you spent Friday playing all of the video content that I've been looking at on YouTube.
The embarrassing stuff.
Yeah, and then you had to explain it to your wife as to why that had come up on your shared account.
It was weird because it was meant to be my content, but it turned up in your YouTubes,
which leads me to believe you might have gone and researched it yourself.
No, it was stuff.
But you swore it was for my computer.
I don't want to get hung up on this.
Anyway, what we want to do,
we like to do this every week on the show,
is make a topical news jargon call.
And we make a phone call and see how much news jargon,
that particular jargon, we can insert into the phone call.
So far, we've done the election jargon, political jargon,
rugby jargon last week for the North versus South game,
and Ben Boyce, given this wonderful lead-in you've begun with,
I'm imagining computer jargon today.
Yes, computer jargon.
So I've got some pieces of paper in front of me
with lots of computer jargon in it.
Things like history, Google, control, alt, delete, Dell, Dell which is a computer.
Outgoing mail there.
Yes, cookies, all that sort of stuff.
So we're going to ring a cafe and I'm going to hold up these signs
and Jono, you've got to try and work them into the phone conversation
and if you do, we'll play a bell which they won't hear down the phone line, okay?
What do I win?
You win the opportunity to stick around until nine o'clock.
Oh, great, great, great prize.
Okay, let's make a call.
Hello, Red Eye Cafe.
Oh, hello there. How are you?
I'm good. My name's Jonathan. I'm an outgoing male.
Okay. Which, sorry, is a weird way to start
a conversation like this is a Tinder date or something.
Hey, listen,
where are you based? Is it a hard drive to get to the location?
Is it a hard drive?
Yeah.
Not really.
Maybe finding a park's the hardest bit.
Yeah, because, listen, I'm just on the east side of town,
so would I go that-a-way or that-a-way?
Which way?
You'd go, come across the bridge, up the avenue, and then you would turn right.
Oh, okay.
Do you have a website?
I have a Facebook page.
Good.
And a lot of food, because I'm down for a megabyte.
I'm so hungry today.
Okay.
What's in the cabinet?
Is this the radio?
No.
There's lots, there's some food in the cabinet.
Can you?
What's the atmosphere like?
Look, I like to be in control.
See, I grew up in a household where I wasn't in control.
And so I, as an adult, I've been quite controlling in my adult years.
But I do want to ram home my agenda.
Do you bake cookies?
Muesli cookies?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And do you play music?
Yes.
Would you play some Adele for me?
Right now?
Just when I come in.
Yep, sure.
Yep.
And how much food have you got in stock right now?
Because I can control, alt, delete all of that.
Oh, can I stop him there?
It's Jono and Ben from the radio station.
Yeah, I thought he knew it.
Jono and Ben from the radio.
Oh, bloody hell.
She said radio.
You lied to her.
Why am I lying?
I blatantly lied to you.
You blatantly lied to her.
Just so I could milk another minute out of you.
What a filthy individual I am.
I was holding up computer technology,
some jargon from computer terms like hard drive and Google.
Yeah, I get that.
Why are you doing this?
Mate, we're all here just filling in time before we die, aren't we?
Oh, yeah, okay.
Okay, I'll take that as an excuse.
Hey, what's your business?
Let's give it a good plug on the radio.
The Red Eye Cafe.
Is it a hard drive to get there?
Just go over the bridge and go data way, I think.
Listen, I'm a...
You started the focal with an outgoing male.
I'm an outgoing male, which is...
Oh, sorry, I'm sorry.
What was your name, sorry?
Kay Lee.
Kay Lee, listen, you're an absolute superstar.
Thank you for tolerating us.
Yes, that's all we could ask for.
You hold the line and we're going to find something for you
for being a good sport, all right?
Oh, cool, Okay, thanks.
It's all radio it is, isn't it?
We burden ourselves upon the public
and you've just got to tolerate us for a couple of minutes.
And then we'll give you a prize.
See you, Kayleigh.
See you.
Wake up and smell them.
Actually, no, please don't smell them.
That's odd.
It's Jono and Ben on the hits.
The Kiwi Referendum.
We are putting the most iconic New Zealand things up against each other.
It's like a knockout style tournament.
It's like the US Open, except with less balls to the throat.
So what we're doing is we're putting the best of the best New Zealand things against each other.
You vote for them and we're going to see which is the best bit of Kiwiana.
Now, yesterday, Onion Dip took Shortland Street, dipped it in itself,
and ate it whole in advance through to the next round.
Yeah, Onion Dip went through.
Would you have thought that one?
I mean, they're both so iconic, Shortland Street, Onion Dip.
Well, I think a lot of people are just going to favour food.
Because we keep going, you know, what could you not live without?
I guess, you know, could people not live without the high calorie intake of Onion Dip
through January and March? I don't know. And then Lorde took on Lorde of the Rings. It was the intake of onion dip through January and March?
I don't know.
And then Lorde took on Lorde of the Rings.
It was the Battle of the Lords, wasn't it?
And Lorde won that one over Lorde of the Rings.
So Lorde and onion dip go through.
We'll put a bit of a table online so you can follow the progress of how it's going.
Actually, we were going to make that battle over three lengthy installments.
Lorde taking on Lorde of the Rings,. We needed to cut through it a bit quicker.
But today's one, this is going to be interesting.
What is the most Kiwiana out of this?
Round five.
Sheep.
Versus mince and cheese pie.
Oh.
A sheep versus a mince and cheese pie.
You see how it's known for sheep, right?
It's not known necessarily for the mince and cheese pie, but everyone loves a mince and cheese pie. You see how it's known for sheep, right? It's not known necessarily for the mince and cheese pie,
but everyone loves a mince and cheese pie.
Some of my most beautiful wives have been sheep over the years.
Yeah, see, this is what we don't need for the stereotypes.
The sheeps have put a black mark on us internationally, haven't they?
They have, they really have.
I think we're doing wild things with sheep down here.
I've never even touched a sheep.
Let alone.
Married one.
But everyone thinks we're doing it.
So sheep versus Lord of the Rings throughout the show.
Sheep versus Lord of the Rings.
Sheep versus mince and cheese pie.
That's the battle today.
4-4-8-7 is the text.
What do you want to vote for?
Sheep or mince and cheese pie?
What could you not do without?
Now we're going to talk to Shrek.
I remember Shrek, we went wild and
this didn't do us any favours. This tarnished
us internationally. When we had
Shrek, that woolen sheep that had not
been shorn for like five or six years.
He became an international
New Zealand superstar. I don't know if he
made international headlines.
He made international headlines for the fact that
look at New Zealand. It was one of those ones. And we put him on. We all love it actually. He made international headlines for the fact that, look at New Zealand.
It was one of those ones.
Yeah.
And we put him on an iceberg for some God knows why.
But anyway, we're going to talk to Shrek's owner
after seven o'clock.
His name's John from Bendigo Station.
And we're going to talk to the seven-time Pie Award winner
as well to get their thoughts on this
sheep versus mince and cheese pie battle.
One of New Zealand's most famous sheep.
Jeez, I tell you what, it had a high-profile career, didn't it, this sheep?
Met the Prime Minister, went internationally.
The news covered it.
Even the BBC covered this.
Shrek, the sheep who refused to be shared.
He spent years hiding here in an effort to avoid those dreaded clippers.
Yes, Shrek the sheep, New Zealand's most famous sheep.
And we're joined by Shrek's owner.
His name is John Periam.
Welcome to New Zealand's Breakfast, John.
Yeah, hello.
So Shrek, what was the back story with Shrek?
Yeah, so this is 2004, I'm just reading.
It gained international fame, the Shrek the sheep.
How did it all happen?
Well, it's a pretty bizarre story.
We went out mustering on 15th of April.
We always mustered the sheep down from the high country about then.
And we went up a very rough track on the Northburn boundaries
and then we mustered the sheep across the end of the block
and I had Anne Scanlon with me, who actually was the lady that found Shrek.
Yeah, it was a perfect script.
I was driving the truck and when we got along the end,
Ant came running down and said,
you won't believe it, I've seen this amazing woolly.
And we said, oh, well, look.
So we went back up after we put the sheep out of the block
and here it was standing on top of this massive knob,
500 foot cliffs around him.
So you locked up on the hill when you first saw,
and this was a sheep that hadn't been shorn for, what, six years?
Was that right?
Yeah, five years, yes.
And he was carrying 27 kilos of wool on his back.
Gee whiz, I'm looking at the pictures of him.
The wool's gone over his eyes.
I don't know how he was seeing.
No, he was pretty much wool blind by that stage,
and if Anne hadn't have spotted him,
he wouldn't have survived another six months out at that altitude.
So he was found
and brought down and just then
the whole run of coincidence happened
which was pretty bizarre.
We had the Hawke's Bay
Pony Club team, we were billeting
and I said, look, just put your saddles inside
but be careful, there's a woolly
bumping around in there.
And we went over half an hour later and teenage girls and boys they were all fascinated there's a woolly bumping around in there. Yeah, right. And we went over half an hour later,
and teenage girls and boys,
they were all fascinated with this big woolly.
But I said, oh, what do you think we should call this thing?
And one girl said, oh, it looks like an ogre.
And the other girl said, oh, maybe you should call it Shrek.
Well, that's how it started.
That's how it got the name.
Shrek was just, it became world famous.
I mean, it even went to meet Prime Minister Helen Clark.
Yeah, no, he actually, Shrek flew everywhere with Qantas.
Right.
And he always had a fleet of BMWs waiting for him.
He must have had some great air points by the end of it.
I remember, I distinctly remember, for some reason,
they put Shrek on an iceberg.
Remember?
Yeah, that's right, yeah.
Yeah, well he probably ended up with
more air points than most New Zealanders.
Well, and
Shrek, I remember seeing on national
TV live that Shrek
got Sean. The first sharing
was with Paul Holmes
that went global on CNN
to 1.2 billion people. Yeah,
it was a great journey,
and the best part of the journey, of course,
was that Shrek, he loved people, he loved kids,
he loved people in old people's homes,
and he just kept giving back,
and people just loved him,
and so I can't believe how many thousands of people
all over New Zealand in rest homes
and that we went to, you know,
they'd come out with tears in their eyes.
They just couldn't believe that Shrek would turn up.
Became a national icon, Shrek the sheep.
Lived till 16 years old too, which is a long time.
I was just reading online for a sheep, normally 10 to 12 years, right?
That's right.
We were very careful with him.
We fed him on low protein.
Right.
Yeah, I believe that was a lot of reason.
He never went outside and ate grass and all that time.
He lived in his shed, which had a balcony right round it.
I tell you what, the other sheep must have had some disdain for Shrek.
They're like, who's this guy up here with his dick and his low-protein diet?
I think humans can take a bit out of that too sometimes.
John, listen, lovely talking with you.
Thanks for telling us the story of Shrek.
He was pretty good at social distancing too.
He was
for six years. Lovely
talking to you, John. Appreciate it.
Thank you. Will it be a barbaric victory
for the sheep? Will they be put out
to pasture? And some pie puns
that I can't quite think of on the spot right now.
So you can get your votes through 4487.
We'll announce the winner just before 9 o'clock.
Ben Boyce.
Yeah, very, very tough battle, this one.
It's been raging all morning,
but we thought we'd talk to a pie expert now on the show.
He's actually won Pie of the Year a couple of times
from Gold Star Bakery in Tauranga.
Pat Lamb, welcome to New Zealand's Breakfast.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello, is this our mate Pat, the pie maker?
Yes.
Pat Lamb. How are you? Pat Lamb, seven-time Pie, the pie maker? Yes. Pat Lamb.
How are you?
Seven-time Pie of the Year winner.
Not this year.
Not this year?
Okay, don't bring it up.
It's a sore point.
It's Jono and Ben calling from the Hits radio station.
Yeah, how are you?
Good, mate.
How are you?
Good, thank you.
Good.
Listen, now, we are having a referendum,
and the pie, the humble pie, is taking on a sheep.
What do you think is more Kiwi, a pie or a sheep?
Whoa.
Whoa.
I know, whoa.
I think a pie, I think.
You think a pie?
Yeah.
I think you're obliged to say a pie, aren't you?
Yeah, sure.
What's your best pie that you've made?
To be honest, we have a lot of best pie.
But yeah, last year we went to Mr. Cheese,
and that's the most popular pie.
Mr. Cheese.
It's like naming your favourite child, isn't it,
if all your children were pies.
Yeah, quite classic and very popular.
And how many pies is Pat making a day?
Overall, about over 1,000.
1,000 pies.
Because you're also, you know, running bakery and operating bakery.
So you've got your sandwiches to get out,
your little lasagna toppers.
Yeah, we have almost everything,
like sandwich, roll, cake,
butter chicken, chicken, mushroom,
chicken, cajun and bacon.
Oh, lovely.
There's the chicken category.
Chicken and camembert,
chicken, cranberry and camembert.
Oh, more chicken. Yeah, we've camembert. Oh, awesome. Creamery and camembert. Oh, more chicken.
Yeah, we've got small fish, seafood, mussel.
Oh, mussel?
A seafood pie?
Yeah, and then we have the order steak one.
We have steak and cheese, steak mushroom, steak onion.
All your big bangers.
Steak and bacon.
Oh, yeah.
Steak and...
Steak and kidney.
Steak, I get.
Steak and veggie.
Yeah.
A plant steak.
Take me to the mince category.
Take me to the mince category, Pat.
Minced curry, got mince.
Minced and cheese.
There's only two flavours.
Oh, okay.
And minced potato top.
Oh, yes, gotcha.
And bacon, bacon and egg, obviously.
Yeah, bacon, egg.
And we have two different ones.
One is just plant bacon, egg.
The other one we have bacon, egg, cheese, tomato and onion.
Oh, cheese, tomato and onion.
All right, let's head on through to the gourmet category now, Pat.
What have we got there?
We've got creamy mushroom, bacon and cheese.
We've got thick mushroom, bacon and cheese.
And we have roast pork belly, apple sauce.
Yeah, this should be a phone line for call-up.
Talk twice to me. Yeah, talk twice because I'm enjoying this right line for call-ups. Yeah, call-ups. Talk pies to me.
Yeah, talk to us because I'm enjoying this right now.
This is great.
Yeah.
Pat, it's been lovely talking to you.
You put a vote in for pies over sheep this morning.
And you go.
We better let you get back to it.
All right.
Thank you for that.
Nice talking to you, Pat.
See you.
Bye-bye.
Want more Jono and Ben?
You can catch up with the boys anytime.
Just search Jono and Ben on Facebook.
We just had lockdown in the 09 area in New Zealand
and all over the world, you know, in various stages of lockdown.
And I was reading last night in Scotland, they're still in lockdown.
You love your international news, don't you?
This made me smile.
He's a news hound, this guy.
He's always searching for the quirkiest news around the world.
So they're experiencing lockdown over in Scotland
and there's a company that's doing really well over there
that has like an inflatable, like a room,
like a bouncy castle,
but you can get inside like a room
and they've made it into an inflatable pub.
And so what they do is that you can hire it out
for the weekend.
They'll come around, set it up,
social distancing on your place.
They won't, you know, they'll leave it there, go away.
And then you and your bubble can go
into this inflatable pub, a bouncy castle, and have a pub for the weekend.
Oh, I'd need a good hosing off after each session, wouldn't I?
You want to blow that thing.
My friend invested in a whole bunch of bouncy castles.
Oh, yeah.
Just as like a part-time thing.
It's now just like dominant.
It's the bane of his life.
Because every weekend you'd be dropping them off, right?
The bouncy castle business is booming.
I tell you, you want to get into anything, bouncy castles.
He's having to buy more.
Well, this place is doing great.
Well, you've got the inflatable pub going around social distancing
because people are missing the pub,
so you get to go out and have your own pub and an inflatable house.
We love a bouncy castle.
We had a bouncy castle we purchased once.
Yeah, we had it across Lake Taupo.
Yeah, Lake Taupo and another comical, nautical John Owen.
Sold it across there.
Do you remember, though, because we went across and we were like,
John kept saying we're Kiwi heroes.
He was like, I want to be on the front page of the paper.
You know, it's the Kiwi heroes.
Yeah, building it up.
This is what Sir Edmund would have done when Sherpa Tenzing
was carrying all his crap up Mount Everest.
He's like, I want to be a hero.
Sailed.
I say sailed.
It had a little motor on it, but sailed across Lake Taupo
and, you know, in a bouncy castle.
So it was a children's bouncy castle.
They'd done a great job in fashioning to be able to go across the water.
So it was pretty cool.
We went across there.
It took all day.
By the time we got there,
there was a bit of a crowd there waiting.
And you're like, yeah, we're here.
Yeah, Kiwi heroes, here we go.
Here they come.
I was saying to you,
100 metres out,
I was like, hey, look,
there's thousands of people on the shoreline.
There was quite a few people out there.
It wasn't thousands.
At least 30 or 40 people on the shoreline.
But you were like
walking up,
you're like,
yeah, red carpet,
you're waving.
And then we didn't realise
they all had water balloons.
And they just unleashed.
Oh my God,
it was an assault.
I can't have any more children
thanks to that
water balloon assault.
It was wild.
Spashed in the face
like a Novak Djokovic
video.
I got PTSD
from that
like someone
who's been at war
oh yeah
that water burner
so yeah
we were like
we're heavy heroes
and they're just like
then the worst thing
was we remember
we had a fish on board
and we forgot
to take the fish off
and so we deflated
the bouncy castle
and then months later
we blew it up
and no one had taken
the fish out
it was toxic
that is gross
I think we had to
burn the bouncy castle or we threw it in the ocean or something was toxic. That is gross. I think we had to burn the bouncy castle.
We threw it in the ocean or something for a dolphin to eat or something, I think.
Making poor life decisions every morning.
It's Jono and Ben on the hits.
Now, there's a bit of a distressing video circulating around social media at the moment.
TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, on a lot of the social media platforms,
which is kind of scary.
It's quite distressing, and we're not going to get into too much details
of what it is,
but a lot of parents and people around New Zealand
are naturally worried that this thing is circulating around,
and some people will see it
when they're not prepared to see some of this.
I was saying to you,
we took Poppy and Oscar,
my kids, their TikTok account off them,
but then you were like,
TikTok, because I thought,
oh, should we throw out a topic of
should there be an age limit for social media and kids?
And you're like, well, TikTok has what?
It's 14, yeah.
14 years old.
Yeah.
Most of the kids on there are under 14.
Well, yeah, some of them would be.
Yeah.
Except you.
You were on there.
You're the only one over 14.
There's a few more people as well as me on TikTok.
Yeah, but you're right.
It's 14 years old for TikTok as far as I know.
And who, because you said to your kids, how did you get on there? And they'll ask, oh, you just make the age? Yeah, people can're right. It's 14 years old for TikTok as far as I know. And who, because you said to your kids,
how did you get on there?
And they'll ask, oh, you just make the age?
Yeah, people can make an,
so my kids aren't on there now,
but we have an account that I have that,
you know, it's not private.
Sorry, it's private.
So you could just go up and they can do whatever it is,
but they won't post it.
No one follows it.
So it's like, yeah, it just goes to your drafts.
It seems like a rock solid line of defense,
that age thing, doesn't it?
Oh, I guess it's the same thing as anything else online.
Alcohol too, eh?
Juju was just saying before, you just have to click, are you 18?
Yes.
What are they?
We'll take your word for it.
Yeah, I guess having to scan your passport or your bank account.
So we wanted to check this out there.
Social media.
Do you think, on the whole, it has been helpful or harmful for society oh 800
the hits the number four four eight seven what are you gonna go ben boys oh no every now and again i
go oh i just i just want to get rid of it you know like i feel like but if you get rid of it how do i
know what you've eaten for dinner if you don't take a photo of it and put it on social media i'll
never know but it's yeah it can't do so so much good and then it can do so much damage around.
Yeah, I get the concern as to,
especially for the younger ones,
that it can lead to just bullying,
which is worrying, isn't it?
Because Juliet, you came out of the womb,
I think, doing an influencer post.
Basically, yeah.
Holding a phone.
You wouldn't have experienced life
without social media, I can't imagine.
Yeah, well, apart from primary school,
but back then I kind of wasn't really
that wasn't really the
age you'd sort of be on social media
and so when it started becoming big was the age
that you were allowed to go on it type thing.
So I was on Facebook when I
got into middle school, I think,
and that was the big thing, obviously, for that
age group, but that shifted to Instagram and now
it's shifted to TikTok. So yeah, it kind of
just changes. Well, I mean, kids, listen,
imagine what you could be doing with those 15
seconds instead of dancing if you
went outside. You could take up
cigarette smoking, graffitiing.
Options are endless, aren't they?
So let's chuck this out there, eh? Helpful or harmful
social media for the world as a
whole. Yeah, well, there's so much good and
then there's so much bad as well. So this is going to
be an interesting one on the text machine. 4487. Polls of the nation. Let's go to Hannah in Auckland. Welcome to New there's so much good and then there's so much bad as well, so this is going to be an interesting one on the text machine
4487. Polls of the nation! Let's go
to Hannah in Auckland. Welcome to New Zealand's Breakfast,
Hannah. Hello. What do you
reckon? I think
as long as you're old enough, so
over 16 or got a head on you
that you're not going to be influenced poorly by
people that put stupid things up,
I think it's good to keep in touch with
friends, like my best friends in London.
So it's a good way to be able to chat to her on Facebook Messenger,
see what she's up to on Instagram or the trip to Europe and whatnot.
So are you essentially saying let's get an age limit on it?
Yeah, I think we should be.
I don't think 14-year-olds should be allowed on Facebook or Instagram.
They're not really old enough to understand what's right or wrong.
Yeah, and what do you think about
30-year-old men on
TikTok, just as a side note?
Is it interesting
or is it... Look, I haven't done a TikTok
dance for a long time. My best
TikTok days are behind me, guys.
It's more like
an action movie where they come find me. I'm
chopping wood in the forest. We need you back
on TikTok. I gave that life up.
I retired.
I danced my last dance.
I never said I'd return to another Benny song.
We need you back.
Benny's just put out another hit.
Let's go to Christy.
It's Tony.
You're on the harmful or helpful social media for the world, mate.
What do you reckon?
I think it's a double-edged sword.
Yeah, well, it is.
It's true.
It's good and bad, right?
Yeah, well, on one hand, it connects the world.
It brings out information.
It's at your fingertips.
Like, when we were kids, we had encyclopedias,
if we could afford them.
Encyclopedia, yeah, true.
But on the other hand, there's that negative side effect to it.
But as parents, we can monitor and censor
what our children are watching.
Like, I'm sure your net safe suit will bring it up, but you can actually, like, pick up what a child sees As parents, we can monitor and censor what our children are watching.
I'm sure your net safe suit will bring it up,
but you can actually pick up what a child sees or looks at on a computer.
I just think that the power of the positive far outweighs,
because it's up to us what we post on it.
I see what you're saying there, Tony.
That's a good point.
Thank you very much.
On the text machine as well, for the most part, people are going, yes, it's just how you use it, isn't it?
And I'm sure there's a lot of households
out there where you could leave
and the children might be on devices and you're like,
I'm going to go to Fiji for two weeks
and they don't say anything and you return
two weeks later tanned, looking
like a million dollars and the kids are still
there on their iPads and they haven't noticed that you've gone.
They're like, I'm back kids, I've got some braids
and everything with beads in them.
And they're like, oh, my iPad's run out of battery.
Can you charge it?
The problem is, I guess, the video that's circulating at the moment,
that you're not necessarily looking for it.
It's just popping up in your feed, and that's the scary thing.
Yeah.
We apologise in advance.
It's Jodo and Ben on the hits.
Hey, we...
Guess what's in the pocket with Old El Paso tortilla pockets
and win your share of 50,000 pesos.
I was just going to say that,
and then that lady did it so much better.
She did a lot better than you, didn't she?
She's so happy, and she's got music behind her.
I had none of that.
It was just my bleak, nasally, boring voice.
This is pretty cool from Old El Paso.
They've got Tortilla Pockets.
Basically, they have a bottom of it,
so you can fill all your favourite fillings
inside the pocket.
Less mess.
It's a great invention,
and thanks to them, we have each day 10,000 Mexican pesos to give away.
But you stay jackpotted.
So today we have 20,000.
20,000 Mexican pesos.
Now that could buy you the whole of Tijuana if you wanted to.
If it was going for a relatively affordable price.
In New Zealand dollars, it translates to over $1,300 we've got to give away.
So given the fact that Old El Paso have their pockets out now,
we've got our pockets and they're full of items.
We give you clues as to what could be in there.
And if you guess correctly, you win that $20,000 pesos.
All right.
So you've got some clues today for people to guess.
What's in your pocket?
I don't know.
I mean, I've fitted a lot of stuff in these pockets
over the last couple of days, haven't I?
Yeah, you have.
And I tell you what, once I do clarify what is in my pockets,
Ben, you put your hands in and you confirm, don't you?
Okay, yeah.
You have a little rummage.
I say, Ben, put your hand in and have a rummage
just to clear you're like our scrutineer.
It's like the lotto.
The lotto scrutineer.
But yes, the clues today.
This is a very popular Mexican city I have in my pocket.
Oh, really?
The whole city.
Oh, wow.
In my pocket.
I've got all the people in there, all the buildings and parks and everything.
It's widely known for its beaches and beautiful resorts.
That's right.
There's beaches in my pockets too.
Wow.
So popular.
It's called a beach lover's paradise.
Now, I don't know if that's like people who love the beaches
or people who like making love on beaches.
Maybe both.
So I've got people making love in my pockets.
People that love beaches.
Right now.
Both groups.
Snorkelers, scuba divers, you would love it here.
And it's boarding on the Caribbean Sea.
There's a lot of stuff going on in these pockets this morning.
There is a lot going on.
Too much, some would say.
0800 the hits is the phone number if you think you know,
and thanks to Old El Paso, we've got these almost $1,382, I think is the exact amount.
Cheers, I tell you what, our friends come out when we've got cash to give away, don't they?
Full board, all six lines. They only like us when we're giving away pesos, I see. Jesse, how tell you what, our friends come out when we've got cash to give away, don't they? Full board, all six lines.
They only like us when we're giving away pesos, I see.
Jessie, how are you?
I'm good, thanks, how are you?
This is a bloody soulless relationship.
You just want us for our pesos.
No, not at all.
Okay, what are you doing now?
No, she's wondering, I want you for the New Zealand dollars.
All right, what has Jono got in his pocket?
I think he's got in his pocket, oh, this is hard.
Is it a beach in Mexico?
It's a city.
It's a Mexican city that I was describing.
I'll give you that much.
Okay.
I think that it is called, how do you say it again?
Purutovolata?
No.
It was Cancun.
Damn it.
Oh, my.
And jackpots again.
30,000 pesos tomorrow.
Oh, my goodness.
30,000 pesos.
Oh, you have to tune in tomorrow.
Too much peso.
Oh, there's a lot.
It's all thanks to Old El Paso.
The Tortilla Pocket's a great invention.
Mess-free creations.
Fill it to the brim with your favourite morsels,
no matter how messy.
30,000 pesos we can be giving away tomorrow.
Hey, Jesse, lovely to talk with you,
and thank you for listening to New Zealand's Breakfast.
She's gone.
See, I told you she just wanted us for our pesos, Ben.
Oh.
So close.
So close.
Why do you keep making weird noises?
Are you trying to figure out what to say next?
Yeah, pretty much.
Like starting your day with panda eyes.
It's Jono and Ben on the hits.
Now on Friday on the hits, the hits pop 100, countdown takes place.
What is the best pop song of all time?
If you want to vote for your favourite, text pop and your favourite song to 4487
and you could win $1,000 cash.
And our show, we wanted to champion a song, maybe a guilty pleasure song.
Have we got that round? Producer Juliet, the song
that we've chosen
at random was Peter Andre's
Mysterious Girl. Now producer Humphreys, be humps.
Be humps, be humps,
be humps, be humps. Check him
out. Now you've got
some big news apparently for us regarding
Peter Andre and Mysterious Girl. Yes, I've been
chatting to his management in the UK
and he is interested in coming on the show. Peter Andre himself Mysterious Girl. Yes, I've been chatting to his management in the UK and he is interested in coming on the show.
Peter Andre himself or the manager?
I'm interested that he's still got management.
Oh, mate, jeez.
Look at you.
You've been off TV for a couple of years.
Are we going to throw some ice?
No, but he's allowed to.
He's allowed to do his own thing.
I thought you'd just contact Peter Andre straight through.
He's still got people.
He's still got people.
And he will come on the show, but there is a condition.
If you guys can get him into the top 10.
Oh, see, this is it.
See, Andre's now driving a hard bargain here.
We can't fiddle the charts, mate.
No, it's not here to...
Get out on the streets with your billboards
and go and shake some signs.
Okay, so you need the people to vote.
You're not asking us to manipulate the charts,
which we would never do.
No, absolutely not.
Radio would never do that.
Okay, so if we get Peter Andre in the top 10,
we can talk to Peter Andre on the show.
On the show this Friday.
That'd be a wonderful get, wouldn't it?
It would be.
Tell you what, looking through him through the mid-90s,
he was allergic to shirts in the 90s.
He didn't wear shirts for about 10 to 12 years.
Oh, if you look like that.
Yeah, I'd turn up here shirtless.
You'd be like, yeah.
Why is he not putting a top on?
Well, have you seen his torso?
Okay, well, listen, Bea Humphrey,
you got us Miley Cyrus' brother last week.
Correct.
He was a good sport.
I believe you'll come through with Peter Andre.
Okay.
And if not, you'll have Peter Andre's manager.
Would you say this is the most important thing people will vote on this year?
It is absolutely.
Get your texts in.
4487.
Get Peter Andre to the top ten so we can get an interview with him.
Okay.
Please.
Does he need the guarantee before we interview him?
Yes, he does.
Oh, my God.
I've got to send him through the package.
Okay.
This Andre drives a hard bargain.
Low in calories and low in laughs.
It's Jono and Ben on my hits.
Spy.
Launch into mess-free Mexican with the new Old El Paso tortilla pockets.
Now, if they have a face that is physically unable to move
thanks to surgery enhancements, well, they'll be in this bulletin.
Producer Juliet was Spy.
So Brad Pitt, he has got his new girlfriend.
She is 29 years younger than him.
He took her to the place, the castle, the French castle,
that him and Angelina Jolie got married at
on the date of him and Ange's wedding,
what would have been a wedding anniversary.
Now...
Do you think this was on purpose?
Like, all coincidence or what?
That's what I'm wondering.
That's what people are wondering.
People are like, is he wanting to make her jealous?
Like, all the speculation.
All that speculation.
No, guys, don't think like that.
That's just a pure coincidence.
He's like, I drove him past.
He's like, oh, I remember that place.
I think I got married there.
So we got married in here.
She was over there.
Our 900 kids were over here.
It was a wonderful day.
I think it was as innocent as that.
Yeah, true.
And then the reports, of course, are coming out being like,
Angelina's furious.
She's stunned he stooped so low and all that thing.
You always say sources say these people.
But you never name your sources.
Is that just what a good journalist does?
Yes, exactly.
Never reveal your source.
Exactly.
And it also gives you a great chance to just make up the fact that Angelina's furious.
Sources say she's furious.
I know.
And Justin Bieber, he has debuted a massive neck tattoo.
It's of a big rose, and he has just got hundreds of tattoos now.
He's got quite a lot, eh?
He's got a lot.
His whole chest's covered, his arms, parts of his legs,
his neck is pretty much all done now as well.
And he'll be making his debut for the Sydney Roosters this weekend in the NRL
with that neck
tattoo.
Yeah, it's got a
big rose sort of
right by the neck.
Yeah, it goes down
the neck.
It's a big rose.
That would hurt.
You guys, did any
of your tattoos kind
of, could you deal
with the pain of it?
No, I'm awful at it.
Really?
Yeah, I just get
tramadol, a lot of
tramadol.
Wow.
I'd sit there and
not even know what
was happening.
Had to get carried out of there.
But you're a big Bieber fan.
Are you a fan of his artwork?
To be honest, when he got his first tattoo
when I was real young, I was really sad.
I was so upset. I was like, he's turning into a bad boy.
Not my JB.
He's not a bad boy.
Did you hear the rumour I was reading about the other day
that he's part reptile?
He's like a reptile. I know. Did you hear the rumour I was reading about the other day that he's part reptile? He's like a reptile.
What?
He like shapeshifts into the, yeah.
No?
Shapeshifts in public.
I got into a hole about this.
Apparently there's been a few sites over the years
and people have gone,
oh, again, sources say they saw him shapeshift into a reptile.
I believe he's a reptile.
I was like, wow, why did this become a thing?
As in like a transformer, but like from a human to a snake.
And no one's more furious about it than Angelina Jolie.
She's wild about this reptile.
That's the place they got married in front of that reptile.
And that is fine thanks to Old El Paso.
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Want more Jono and Ben?
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Just search Jono and Ben on Instagram. Now there's a distressing video circulating around on social media,
particularly on TikTok and Facebook.
And we wanted to know what we should be doing to protect,
particularly kids, from seeing this sort of stuff on social media.
So we thought we'd talk to Martin Cocker, who's the head of NetSafe New Zealand.
Martin, thanks very much for your time.
How are you doing?
Yeah, good morning.
Very well, thank you.
Listen, this footage on TikTok, the disturbing footage,
is this a surprise to you in this current day and age?
No, it's not.
I mean, it's not a surprise.
We've seen, we know the internet,
there are sites that host this kind of footage and kind of content
and, you know, exist for this purpose.
What's different about this is the crossover.
When it gets onto the social media places
that we spend most of our time and then spreads, you know, virally,
then it becomes a problem.
So, you know, we've seen it before and we'll see it again,
but when it comes up, it's important, you know,
that we talk to people about how to manage it.
Yeah, so obviously it's quite traumatic footage that's on there.
It's on TikTok.
It's on all other social media platforms, I understand, at the moment,
like Facebook and Instagram.
What should parents be doing to protect their kids
that maybe are going to be on social media over the next couple of days?
Yeah, well, there's been a few calls for people to say to their children,
you know, get off social media.
I think that's going to be pretty difficult at best.
And the problem with that, of course, is if you tell your child,
we don't want you on social media, and they do go on,
and then they do see the video,
they're going to be less likely to come and talk to you about it
at exactly the time when you want them to be talking to you
about what they've seen and what's happened.
So, you know, I'm not suggesting to parents
that they should ban young people.
If that's, you know, something they feel they want to do,
I'm not saying they can't, but certainly
that's not something that I think is necessarily the best move.
It's important to recognise this sort of content and other content that might upset young people
who exist on these sites and to talk to them about it in advance.
If it does happen to come up in the feed and you can avoid it, we certainly recommend you
avoid it.
Just block it, ban it, report it, whatever's the option.
And, you know, that's the other thing I'd say.
It's really important to report the content.
You know, if you're seeing it in your feed,
that means it's got past the systems that were supposed to detect it
and stop it from being there.
And you can certainly help other people by reporting it,
and then they'll be added to those systems.
Mind you, if you can't do a 15-second dance in front of a camera,
when can you do a 15-second dance? Yeah, a camera, when can you do a 15-second dance?
Yeah, that's right.
You know?
Yeah, that's important to recognise.
That is important to recognise.
A lot of these platforms, you know, I mean, this is the thing people are saying,
you know, should we ban people from using TikTok and that kind of thing,
but people love TikTok and they love it for those reasons
and, you know, want to keep using it.
And I don't think that because people choose to push this kind of footage
up to it
that we should be saying
to other people,
you know,
get off these platforms.
It's hard because
Jono and I was actually,
we were actually in this
conversation the other day
when we were walking
to our cars
that we both got young kids
who were just, you know,
starting to get into
wanting to, you know,
look, check out what's online.
Well, let alone see
all the embarrassing stuff
we've put up there, mate.
Yeah.
And there's a whole world
out there. Quite a catalogue. Hey, matey. Whole world out there of embarrassing stuff we've put up there, Martin. Yeah, and there's a whole world out there.
Quite a catalogue.
Hey, Marty.
A whole world out there of embarrassing stuff,
ours included, and all sorts of stuff
that you want to protect them from,
but obviously it's the way of the world now
for kids to be online and learning,
and everyone needs to know about that.
So how do you strike that right balance?
Yeah, I mean, look, it is a bit of a process to go through,
and it starts by just having conversations with your children
about the kinds of different challenges they'll face online.
And, you know, I mean, that's one of the reasons that Netsafe's here.
We've got a website full of stuff for parents to sort of work their way through
and, you know, get to a position where they feel like they've, you know,
as much as they can, supported young people to deal with the challenges
they'll face online.
But, you know, they are going to see those things.
They are going to see the world because that's what the internet does.
It makes the world available to us.
And they are going to see things that are confronting.
And I think it's better to accept that that's part of the reality
than to think that we can somehow protect them from those things.
That's a good way to address it.
You've kind of got to guide it.
It's there, and they're going to engage in it,
and you've got to guide it through, don't you?
Yes, and they're going to see your stuff as well,
so you're going to have to...
Oh, man, that's the worst.
That's the most disturbing content.
Now, Martin, another question for you.
Do you think that, in general,
social media has been helpful or harmful for society?
I think that it would be easy
in my job to say that it's been harmful because
of course we see all the bad side of it. But I think
that it has been a positive
thing for society. It has connected
people, given them options to connect the ways
they didn't before. And I guess what happens
is we forget about all that because we now live
with it and we just accept what it
does for us and the way that it connects people
and forget that it wasn't that long ago
we didn't have these options available to us.
So I think it's been a positive thing for society overall,
but certainly it has given some people some opportunities
to do some harm on a mass scale
and they've taken those opportunities.
Yeah.
If social media wasn't around,
Ben, you couldn't hock off your fit tea on Instagram? No, I don't do Fit Tea, mate.
He does Fit Tea, Martyn.
If you're wanting some Fit Tea, he can get you some.
I'm not into Fit Tea. Martyn doesn't need
this, eh, Martyn? We really appreciate your time.
Really interesting, and hopefully we can talk to you
again, because just looking at Netsafe's website,
there's a lot of great
subjects to cover off with your kids
and stuff, so it'd be great to talk to you again in the future about
some of those.
Yes, of course.
Wake up full of shame.
Wake up with these guys.
It's Jono and Ben on the heads.
Scrolling through your feed.
Yeah, this is what they call in the industry sense of day.
Yeah, just some topical issues you might want to lightly dust over with your friends and colleagues.
And no one has been working hard at pressing Control-C and Control-V
from the New Zealand Herald website than Ben Boyce.
That's right, I have been.
Now, the richest people in America are the list.
They love doing a rich list.
They're not just in America, but also worldwide, right?
Yeah, they do.
The Americans, they celebrate wealth, don't they?
And when they're rich, they're like unashamedly,
like disgustingly rich.
They're like, yeah, fine, what about it?
But in New Zealand, you'd be like, oh.
You don't see lotto winners parading around, do you?
But in America, it's celebrated.
I mean, that's a good thing.
But then you've got the rich, rich, rich and the poor, poor, poor.
Yeah, I know.
That's the problem, right?
Now, Amazon chief, so Jeff Bezos, he's topped the rich list again for the third year in a row, Amazon.
So he's worth over $200 billion.
Now, he had a divorce last year, Bezos, didn't he?
Yeah.
Obviously, his wife would have gone him for half. So she's got a billion dollars? Is she
on the list?
I don't know. Well, if he's worth $200 billion, she is.
Oh, she's $200 billion?
Yeah, $200 billion.
I thought you said $2 billion.
No, sorry, $200 billion.
So she could get $100 billion.
Yeah, I guess if that's the way it works over there.
US President Donald Trump, this I found interesting.
Now, this is in America, but now all his properties and hotels,
because of coronavirus, haven't been doing very well.
But he's still 352nd on the list, 352 on the list of richest people in America.
So he's still quite high.
Yeah, he's doing well.
His White House salary would be nothing compared to what? on the list of richest people in America. So he's still quite high. Yeah, he's doing well.
His White House salary would be nothing compared to what?
Like his presidential salary wouldn't be as much as he would earn usually, right?
Yeah, you're right.
Because his big thing was like,
oh, I'm downgrading to move to the White House in terms of his accommodation.
Yeah.
He's like, can we add five more stories on top of the White House?
You know Dr. Dre, Is he on the list?
I haven't seen him on the list.
Dr. Dre, he's having a divorce at the moment, too, going through a separation.
His wife wants two mil a month.
Two mil a month?
Because he's got over a billion dollars, Dr. Dre.
Jeez.
I saw a video of him.
Him and his friends were in his closet, and they're filming all his shoes,
and he's just got white, like rows and rows and rows of white Nike Air Force Ones.
It's the only shoe he wears.
Oh, the only pair?
Only sort of, only design he wears.
But he only wears them once.
He wears them once, then they're gone.
What does he do with them?
He only wears one pair of shoes a day.
I don't know.
He burns them.
He gives them back to the tiny children who made them from China.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean, it's hard keeping white shoes clean.
But he's always got clean white shoes.
You would just run out of stuff to spend money on.
Wouldn't you? Oh yeah, wouldn't you? That wealthy.
And also, I thought this was really interesting on the list,
who's made the list for the first time, is
the head of Zoom. Zoom Video Callings.
Eric Young,
he's got a net worth of over $11
billion, and he's one of 18
newcomers on the list. Zoom Calling, obviously, was very big. 12 months ago, and he's one of 18 newcomers on the list.
Zoom calling, obviously, was very big. 12 months ago, no one had heard of him.
He was a nobody.
He was like, mate, I've got this thing.
You can have meetings.
Everyone's like, shut up, Eric.
Shut up.
We like being in the office with desk sharing
and spreading our filthy disease, Eric.
Keep your dumb ideas to yourself.
Now look who's laughing.
Now look who's laughing.
Eric's laughing.
Yeah, Eric's laughing into a Zoom meeting all over the world.
And they are some of the things that are happening.
That's some sense of day for you, as Jono said at the top.
Start your day the wrong way.
It's Jono and Ben on the hits.
The A to Z of New Zealand.
This is where we call a different town or city in New Zealand.
So we do one a day.
We do it alphabetically.
And as we keep banging on about, it's going to take us over two and a half years to ring every town and city in New Zealand. We do one a day. We do it alphabetically, and as we keep banging on about,
it's going to take us over two and a half years
to ring every town and city in New Zealand.
Yesterday, we headed to Hamilton, Frankton.
What else would you suggest we do in Frankton?
That's a pretty hard stretch to give you something to do, actually,
in Frankton, to be honest.
I notice there's a lake.
Oh, yeah, we are just down from the lake, yeah.
Jump in the lake?
Oh no,
you don't want to swim in it.
Have a walk around it.
It's toxic.
Today we move on.
A couple of weeks ago
we did another glacier.
Fox Glacier.
Yeah, we did Fox Glacier
which is on the west coast
of the South Island.
Now this glacier
is just only 23km away.
Yeah.
Too much glacier.
Yeah.
In a certain
part of New Zealand. But Franz Josef
is a small town on the west coast of the South
Island. Last year the population
in Franz Josef was 401.
But they've been doing some athletic
cuddling, bumping crumpets,
having some adult nap time you could say.
Because now the population is 414.
Oh really?
13 more people.
Yeah, no, they've been working hard in Franjoise. Do they also fix windows there at the Glacier place?
A Glacier, Glacier?
You need to start that business up just for the pun.
You need to become a Glacier, Ben Boyce, and move there.
Call it Franjoise of Glacier.
Glacier, Glacier.
It was named after an emperor of Austria.
And Austria repaid the favour by naming one of their towns after something Kiwi.
And that's how the eastern Austrian town of Binge Drinking got its name.
So that part was fake.
The first part was true.
You always have to try and guess which part is real and which part is fake news.
Sometimes I'm like, oh, it's a good fact.
Oh, it's a joke.
The Austrian bit was true.
But then you're right, I undercut it.
You do.
Just tell us the facts
They're quite interesting
Yeah no this is quite interesting
No doubt
The binge drinking part
Also interesting as well
Yeah but not true
Let's go through
To Franz Joseph
Now the top 10 holiday park
One of your favourites
Oh I love it
Good morning Franz Joseph
Top 10 holiday park
Howard speaking
Howard
It's Jono and Ben
From the Hits radio station
Mate how are you?
Good thanks
We're phoning every town in New Zealand.
Franz Joseph, next on the list.
Come on down.
Yep.
We just hope that you might be able to tell us something about the place.
Yep.
Ah, so great little village to come to.
All right, yeah.
Middle of the West Coast.
Beautiful, beautiful scenery, beautiful climate.
I think most New Zealanders think it's a cold, wet place.
We're standing here in shorts and short-sleeved shirts.
Oh, that's because you're a mad dog, Howard.
Shorts, you're wearing shorts.
We're wearing shorts.
Yeah, but you'd wear shorts if it was minus two degrees, Howard.
Nah, it never gets that cold here.
Well, you'd be, of course, a beautiful glacier.
That's what I know about.
Yep, so it's sort of the glacier, but lots of other activities as well.
Quad biking, kayaking.
Howard, have you got another call coming through, baby?
I might have.
Yeah, go grab that.
Come back to us.
We'll wait.
We'll wait. We'll wait.
Okay.
You go get it.
It's Howard from Top Ten Holiday Park.
Oh, he's hung up.
Oh, he's hung up.
Okay.
And that's the A to Z to Franz Joseph.
Yeah, it looks like a beautiful place where they wear shorts.
They're quite busy.
There's lots going on.
Like starting your day without your morning coffee.
It's Jono and Ben on the hits.
I used to have an afternoon bump into my mate, and he introduced me to his new partner. What's going on? Like starting your day without your morning coffee. It's Jono and Ben on my hits.
Yesterday afternoon, bumped into my mate,
and he introduced me to his new partner.
And he's like, oh, this is, I won't name and shame them,
but he's like, oh, this is, let's call her...
Just say it's just a new partner.
I'm no good at making up names.
Rebecca.
Yeah, Rebecca, yeah.
Yeah, I like Rebecca.
This is Rebecca we met on Tinder.
Okay.
And I was like, oh, okay,
well, because that's like a perfectly acceptable thing now,
isn't it?
I mean, you know, hey, this is Greg we met on Grindr.
Hey, this is Cherise.
I met her on the Classifieds.
This is all acceptable nowadays.
Oh, there's many, many ways you can meet people these days.
What an age we live in.
But it's good.
You're right
Because 10 years ago
Everyone would have been like
Oh Tinder
I would have been frowned upon
Or might have been ashamed
To introduce someone
That you met on the internet
But it did remind me
Remember when
One of our colleagues
Paul
I'll name and shame him
Okay
Alright
Because that's actually his name
So there we go
He was on
He was on Tinder
Oh we were on a work trip
Away over in Australia, weren't we?
Yeah, and we're like, oh, mate, look at us spunk rats.
We've got game.
We've got game.
We'll get on Tinder and start trying to boost your account
and things like that.
But, jeez, there's nothing more humbling than you realise that,
well, we've got nothing.
We've got nothing.
No game.
And actually, when I think back on it, I've never had game.
All I did, I called Jennifer, my wife, in a moment of weakness.
She married me.
She thought it was charity.
And that's how my romantic life's played out.
Don't you find that?
Yeah.
Imagine if you and Amanda ended, God forbid,
and you had to get back out on the field.
How would you go?
How would you go back out on the field?
Not great.
Timidly.
Timidly.
Timidly.
Like a sort of deer,
one of those deer
that sort of like
startles in a deer
so the legs aren't
quite working
and they're all
looking around.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Hello.
Excuse me.
Can anyone hear an ear?
Anyone?
What's that?
I know it, do they? Yeah. No, it would be a shambles now? Anyone want to say? I know it today.
Yeah.
No, I'd be a shambles.
I'd be an absolute shambles.
Yeah, because our other friend and his wife were helping Paul do it too on Tinder.
Helping him to try and boost his thing.
And Paul was just like, listen, can you marry people?
You loser married people.
Stay away and stop trying to think you're cool and single.
Have you gone on to the or anything like that?
I have in the past, but my God, you really have to,
there's a lot of no swipes.
It's probably about 50 no swipes
before you get to a yes swipe.
And then if that's a match,
then well, that's just me being really picky anyway.
Are you quite picky?
Yeah, yeah.
What about Bumble?
Cause a few of my family members have used Bumble
and that's the one where, you know. The woman has to message first. Yeah, yeah. What about Bumble? Because a few of my family members have used Bumble, and that's the one where, you know...
The woman has to message first.
Yeah, dictate.
So I thought it was quite a good idea.
Yeah, I've never been on Bumble,
but I know some people who have.
My friend Ella, she was banned from Tinder
because her friends hacked it,
and she was never allowed back on.
Oh, what were they doing?
They put a lot of adult pictures as her pictures.
So she's been banned, right?
So she now uses Bumble a lot.
And so is Bumble more of a like,
oh, you're in it for a relationship sort of situation?
I don't really know.
I feel like Tinder and Bumble are kind of on par with each other.
I don't really see much of a difference
apart from the woman just has to make the first move on Bumble.
Producer Juliet, what's a major turn off in a photo on Tinder?
Is it a guy holding a fish with a...
I knew you were going to say that.
Or another guy holding a rifle.
Yeah, that's a... they can provide.
Hunting and gathering.
A guy straddling a V8.
What are the big turn offs?
Do you know sometimes people like friends of mine
go, oh you, you, John and Ben
come up in the profile pictures. Some people have pictures
of us. Really? Really? Like with us.
Not saying they're like posing as us,
but like those poor people have had the worst dry patch.
Yeah, I was going to say.
The worst dry spell on Tinder.
Don't use a photo like associating yourselves with us.
The only people on Tinder not to match with anyone.
Not a morning person?
Sadly, neither of these two.
It's Jono and Ben on the hits.
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but unfortunately she misread the job description on Seek,
so instead of being a spy, she now presents it with Spy Entertainment News.
Here's Juliet.
Thank you.
And the latest stars to catch COVID-19, David and Victoria Beckham.
But this was back in March and they're over it now.
They secretly caught it while partying in LA.
And then they came back to the UK and realised that they had these symptoms
and got tested and got tested positive.
And a bunch of staff and some relatives that they were partying with also caught it, but then some people were fine.
So, yeah, that's come out.
Yeah, I was reading about it.
They had quite a wild social scene.
They went to a lot of parties, you know, not knowing when they caught it.
So they went, he had like a soccer launch in Miami
and then another function in Brooklyn.
Oh, my God, imagine it.
Birthday party and stuff like that.
They had a whole lot of stuff.
You'd just be like, oh, my God.
Imagine all the better-looking people that could have caught COVID off them.
Yeah.
This is a disaster.
Give it to me.
Hand it down to the Argos.
I'll take it.
Hey, it doesn't discriminate.
Yeah, no, well, it should.
It shouldn't discriminate against hot people.
They shouldn't get it.
Yeah, and they were really worried they were going to be super spreaders
because of all the parties they'd been to.
They were freaking out about it, apparently.
Oh, as you would, too.
Yeah, yeah.
And then they just had to obviously isolate and get through it.
And so now they're fine.
But yeah, another couple of celebrities to get it.
It felt like Tom Hanks got it, and there was a big gap.
No celebrity got it.
But I think they were all secretly getting it.
And now that, you know, The Rock's got it,
Kevin Hart had it, too.
Yeah.
They're all coming out of the woodwork.
Okay, hands up, guilty.
Yeah, got it.
Well, it's just everywhere
overseas, isn't it?
It's probably quite good
that they're coming out
and saying that they've got it
because it probably makes people
who have had it be like,
okay, well, like,
if The Rock got it
or if The Beckham's got it,
like, it's...
It kind of normalises it
a little bit, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It probably makes them feel better
and less, you know,
oh, gosh,
I have to keep this on the down low.
The virus is the problem,
not the people.
Exactly. That's what Dr Ashley said, right? But I like blaming the people. Well, you can, oh gosh, I have to keep this on the down low. The virus is the problem, not the people. Exactly.
That's what Dr Ashley said, right?
But I like blaming the people.
Well, you can't blame the people.
I'm small-minded.
I'm small-minded.
I like blaming the people.
You can't blame the people.
Don't blame the people.
You've got to blame someone.
You can't look at the virus and blame it,
but you can look at a person.
I'm just paranoid about all the bleak places I go
and have to log into on the COVID app.
Yeah, I know.
You just don't want Ashley reading those out, do you?
Yeah.
Yeah, boring places.
And Leonardo DiCaprio, so he was a smoker back in the day.
He now loves a vape.
He does, eh?
He loves a vape, yeah.
He does.
But to hide his smoking habit from his mum in the 90s
when he was in his 20s or so he would bargain with paparazzi
they'd catch him smoking
on nights out
and stuff like that
and he'd go up
to the paparazzi
and say hey
can you not post
that photo anywhere
you can take some
other photos of me instead
and they'd do that
and just so his mum
wouldn't find out
that he was a smoker
Oh he didn't want his mum
knowing he smoked?
Yeah
Isn't that adorable?
Purely for his mum
to not find out
but I'm like,
surely she would find out regardless.
You're an international superstar.
It doesn't matter how big you are,
you still want to hide stuff from your mum.
I remember I smoked for many years
and tried to hide it from my mum,
but the yellow fingers and stinky, smoky smell gets away.
You almost poisoned her.
I did almost poison her, yeah.
I mentioned this before,
I used to use bleach to de-yellow my fingers
and I left the glass on the bench.
She drank it.
It was a nightmare.
Started choking.
Had to take it A&E.
Anyway, poison's unit, blah, blah, blah.
But she's all right now.
But Producer Humphrey was saying yesterday,
because there was a while there where they got
low-level crap liberties to front a campaign
about anti-smoking.
And they did a first wave of people like,
don't smoke, it's bad for you.
But then they ran out of people who didn't smoke. So then they did a first wave of people like, don't smoke, it's bad for you. But then they ran out of people who didn't smoke.
So then they had a second wave of people
where it was like, oh, if you're smoking still,
but you're thinking about giving up.
So I was lucky enough to be paid and involved in this,
of like, hey, I still enjoy smoking.
I'm thinking about giving up.
Slappers on a poster.
And he said he saw me smoking a cigarette
next to my poster in a public place.
Really?
Doing an anti-smoking campaign while still smoking.
Bumpfrey saw you smoke while
standing next to your poster. Yeah, he said yesterday.
Oh my goodness. What a rebel.
But I was saying I was thinking about giving
up and I clearly was still thinking about it.
Still thinking?
Nah, not going to do it.
I'll give it a few more months
yeah
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