Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - Show Highlights: Ben Locked His Wife Out Tonight...

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

Ben locked his wife out of the house! The energy drink that is banned in NZ The Scam-demic continues.. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Hits with the Jono and Ben podcast. Cheers to Dilma, making the world a better tea. I did something last night. Yeah, I had a bit of a shocker last night. I woke up in the middle of the night and I don't normally do this, but I was actually thirsty so I thought I'd go to the kitchen and grab a drink, you know, grab some water.

And as I was standing in the kitchen, I was like, it's quite breezy, it's quite cold. And obviously it's a cold snap going around the country, but I was like, I just feel like there's a open and what how much clothing have you got on this i've got like short uh like little pajama shorts on and a t-shirt like box of shorts hot stuff sexy not much but i was like oh it's quite cold i went over and i pulled back the curtain and i was like oh the sliding door is left open i was like oh that's not good gone to bed we're going to be with the sliding door open i better lock that up so i locked that up that's not good. Gone to bed. We're gone to bed with the sliding door open. I better lock that up. So I locked that up.

That's good security. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Well, it wasn't good security, but I thought, well, it is good security. Turned the light off, went back to bed. And then I hear this knock on the window of the bedroom. Aggressive knock. About 10 minutes later, it gave me a heck of a fright. What's going on?

And my wife, it was my wife standing by the bedroom window. I'm like, what the heck's going on? She's like, I went outside to let the dog out for the toilet and you've locked me outside in the middle of the night and obviously she'd be banging on the bathroom floor, not like

Shaggy but banging on the back door and I hadn't heard that because I was back in bed had to come out all the way around not, not, they were frosty conditions even when she's banging away at your back door. I didn't even hear it. No. I didn't even hear it.

No, not at all. Now, from my understanding, and I have, you know, limited knowledge, limited expertise in this, from what I gather, wives generally don't like being locked outside in the middle of the night. No. What was the conversation after? Well, we talked about frosty conditions around the country this morning with the cold snap.

It was definitely a cold snap overnight. It was an honest mistake. I didn't mean to lock. I mean, in your defense, did you lock her outside or did you give her a crash course in outdoor survival? Essential to any human being. You know the thing when I'm locked out of the house, it always frightens me to how quickly I resort to,

we're going to have to smash all the windows. That's within 60 seconds. Go get an old smasher window. There's always a way in. Well, yeah, then that involves smashing a window, doesn't it? The Hits,

the Jono and Ben podcast. Now, the cartoon Bluey, it's the most streamed show, the biggest show on TVNZ Plus in 2022. A new series starting this week. It follows, it's a cartoon about a blue heeler dog, Bluey and her family. Kids love it and there's a Kiwi behind it. Yeah, it's amazing.

And he joins us on the show right now, Richard Jeffrey. Good morning. Hi, how are you? Tell you what, getting us some cred points with the younger demo this morning, Rich. Excellent. How's it going? We're going all right. Congratulations to all you've achieved and the show's achieved.

It's huge. Oh, thanks very much. Yeah, I know. It's a huge thing, isn't it? It's pretty cool. And it's pretty cool to know that, you know, Kiwi's involved and, you know, directing it and creating it as well. Yeah, look, it's been an amazing opportunity.

Now, I didn't realise this either, which I thought was pretty amazing too. You worked on Charlie and Lola, which was a huge... Know it, love it. A huge part of both of our households for a number of years. Yeah, I did. That's where we met, actually. We worked together in London for a few years and that was kind of our start, really.

That was our start as sort of kids' preschool animation, but also just the start of our journey. When you're starting out on a project like this, or even when you're working on Charlie and Lola, are you like, mate, here's the retirement plan? Yeah, this is going to be huge. Yeah. Well, do you know what?

You never know, right? Our intention was definitely to make the best show we could, and we wanted to make it a great show. We sort of knew we could. You know, these things are never a given, so, yeah, there's a lot of hard work that goes into it. Well, one of the things, I was reading an article last night with yourself,

and you said one of the things that probably sets aside Bluey and the family environment from other cartoons is the parents are actually quite competent, as opposed to other cartoons where the mum or the dad or both can be a bit of a shambles yeah that's right i think we sort of wanted to break that mold a little bit part of its success is this co-viewership you know we've set it in a world that's real we're showing modern family life you know it's what it's like to be at home with two kids and why not not represent parents in a nice way, a light way and a competent, you know,

make the parents competent. And therefore it's sort of, it's more relatable, you know, and it invites adults into that world a bit more. Do you make a show like this too that also, because I'd find myself when my kids were young, you'd get sucked into watching a show and some you'd enjoy more. You'd go, I'll put that one on over another one.

Do you find that you're writing it and creating it for both the parents and the kids to enjoy? A hundred percent, yeah. That was definitely the intention. It was to make a sort of a co-viewership sort of show. You know, kids can understand quite sort of complex stories. So, you know, kids preschool, you don't need to dumb it down too much. You know, you can tell really good stories and kids will still follow it.

But also, I love the idea of just engaging the parents. Sort of a happy thing that came from making Bluey was that we created this sort of family time. All of a sudden, parents, you know, love watching the show, would enjoy sitting down with their kids and watching it. If you write for the adults as well, and the parents can see relatable moments, which I think is key.

Kind of cool, because you kind of leaned into the Australian thing. Show us your thongs, muffin, was the line used in one of the episodes I was reading. It could mean a lot of things to me. A thong could mean something to, you know, different parts of the body. Yeah, that's right. Easy for misinterpretation, that one. Yeah, I call Ben my little thong muffin, don't I? Do you find also you've cracked a wonderful non-judgmental market,

the kids' market, or are they giving you some pretty harsh feedback? Oh, no, pretty good. You know, things always open to scrutiny and stuff like that, but no, the feedback that we get is amazing. You know, one of the best bits is we get letters coming to the studio that kids have written us, you know, about how much they love the show, they've done drawings for us, and that stuff is gold, you know, about how much they love the show. They've done drawings for us. And that stuff is gold, you know.

That really keeps us going. We'll see that. Oh, that's awesome. And that's, you know, you've got them in that perfect age before they figure out how to go online and troll people. Hey, like writing cute letters. That's right. Such an amazing success. Well done on everything.

I even understand Neil Finn cameoing with his voice talents on a latest episode. Yeah, no, that was lovely meeting him, actually. It was a great little moment. I got to meet him and record him at the studio. But yeah, he was great. He was really cool. Well, lovely to talk to you.

Congratulations on all your success. It's an amazing show. I can't wait to see it back on TVNZ. Oh, wonderful. Thank you very much. There you go. The kids' show that makes the adults not want to rip their eyes and ears out Ben boys Yeah they've cracked it haven't they

The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast Hey my dad, he is out of the workforce now but he's been staying at the moment and he was sharing a wonderful story It was about late 80s, early 90s, okay so the computers are coming into the workforce he's like most offices and businesses knew they they felt obliged to have computers just no one really knew how to how to work them how to operate them which you understand this is brand new technology wild new technology but they everyone knew they made you look cool yeah and they made you look like you knew what you were doing all the business knew what it was doing. So they were essentially just fantastic desk ornaments that no one really knew how to operate.

And through the 80s, it was a brilliant decade, wasn't it? For hairspray and shoulder pads, cigarettes, negligent parenting. Yeah, yeah. You could get away with a lot more than you could now just due to the nature of everything that's available now. You know, kids sneaking out of a house now must be bloody impossible. Wouldn't it? That's true.

Tracking them on their phones. People have cameras. And good old days, you could walk out, wander the night for five hours. But this guy that Dad was working with, he started. And the management were like, hey these computers we've spent thousands on all these computers we feel like we're not getting the results out of the computers, so dad was

kind of bored and they're like, did you figure out what's happening, and he would get calls from a department and they would say the printer's not working, can you send down Terry, now Terry I don't know what his name was but terry was like the tech guy yeah gotcha it basically it wander and he had a screwdriver in his hand yeah

and terry would be like onto it boss and so he would disappear and come back and then dad would go all good with the printer he's like all sorted two days later the same department would call up and go the printer's not what is happening with the printer it's still not working and so dad said terry oh can you go back down to be like no worries take the screwdriver down go and go, the printer's not working. What is happening with the printer? It's still not working. And so Dad said, Terry, oh, can you go back down? Terry would be like, no worries, take the screwdriver down and go back. So this went on for like three or four months. Terry just fixing problems all over the place, doing a great job.

Until one point, Dad realised that Terry would go away, fix something, but then two days later, people would say the thing's not fixed and it would just be a cycle. Right. So he had to sit Terry down and and go mate what's the deal is it are these there's equipment broken what's happening he's like terry started crying he's like can i be honest with you i've been in this job for four and a half years and i don't know what i'm doing i just wander around with a screwdriver so it looks like looking like i'm fixing stuff and he's like it's done me pretty well so far four and a half years and dad's like

oh dad kind of felt sorry for us i will send you off to a course or something then he came back for the course he's like i understood literally none of what was said in that course oh terry wasn't quite cut out for it was he no but good hey he had a good run that's a good idea a good run the the the screwdriver is a really good idea right you do look busy with the screwdriver clipboard's the other one too you know clipboard you look busy with that or a pain in the bum if you're on the street with a clipboard you're like this person's gonna punish me i want buddy to do a direct debit out of my account i do remember my stepdad had a printing business when i was younger, and he, same thing with computers. And it was like, we're going to see the computer.

And it was a room. The computer was in the room. Honestly, it was like a meeting room. It was as big as the room. This is a computer. And I was like, wow. What do you do with it? You look at it, and you go, wow.

It was just like, it took up the whole room. What do you do with it? We don't know. It hasn't worked. Terry isn't coming with a screwdriver yet. It probably was. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. I've seen a lot of buzz online about a drink called prime uh it's owned in part by a couple of youtube creators uh celebrity boxers as well logan paul

ksi and it's a huge overseas like a massive they've made millions on this drink oh it's yeah no i know uh oscar uh him and his friends at school desperately want all they want to do is get their lips wrapped around a can of Prime. He's like, can you please get one? I was like, you'll hate it. You'll hate the taste of it. Double caffeine, though. So on that part, I'm like, well, maybe we'll get more results out of him.

He's already an active kid. Well, there's two. Yeah, there's two. I didn't realize there's two types of Prime. There's one that's more like the Gatorade, Powerade sort of thing. And then there's the other one, like you's one that's more like the Gatorade, Powerade sort of thing and then there's the other one like you say, that's more the energy drink and the sales, not quite as good as the Jono Ben V's I think from a few years ago but you know, they're getting up there.

They are getting up there, I mean these guys, they only made I think $250 million last year and they'll only be around 13 months, that was a bad month for us wasn't it, $250 million, those V cans. But your Prime energy drinks, as you say, it's got pretty much close to double the amount of caffeine. And the energy one is Red Bull. So that's why a lot of parents, a lot of health experts are very worried about kids having them in particular.

And kids within New Zealand can get their hands on them, even though they shouldn't be for sale. They are for sale in some places if you know where to go. Now, Producer Behanceoth's raised good points. Are the health experts worried about Prime coming into New Zealand? Or are the existing energy drinks and other drinks worried about Prime coming into New Zealand? Are they lobbying? Oh, we've got to keep this nasty, this nasty toxic nonsense out of our country.

Because, you know, as soon as it comes here, they've just marketed it. It's only been around for 13 months. Incredible market. It's all just marketing. Yeah. Crazy, isn't it? We had a funny incident

actually with Poppy over the last couple of nights. She's like, oh, I'm not sleeping. Up and down, all night, up and down, all night, all night, all night. She'd been putting

bloody Powerade, like drinking Powerade at night. Oh, really? Yeah. Just electrolytes burning through her. Burning through her. So she was ready to run a marathon at any stage. But we're like, oh, darling, you can't drink.

Powerade's not really a night time. Powerade. I know. Blue Powerade. Imagine you get power naps from Powerade. That would be great, you know. Yeah, that's just called alcohol. Well, true. That's right. They've already got something, that's just called alcohol. Well, true.

That's right. They've already got something for that. There you go. Blue Powerade, it's the holy water of New Zealand, isn't it? Yeah. No matter when you're not, I could be like, I feel like I've quenched my thirst and you'll have something that you're like, oh no, I could drink all this.

You know, whatever they've done. Yeah, whatever they've done, they've really cracked it and thirst quenching. Anyway, that's not it. Yeah, especially Poppy. She's like, well, to be the all-round athlete, I need to have Powerade. Again, marketing. Yeah, I know. I think that's the first step to becoming a professional athlete

is just starting to drink Powerade. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. More and more Kiwis getting scammed. A big news story this week we've talked a lot about. Over 10,000 Kiwis, or 100,000 Kiwis, sorry, have fallen for a NZTA scam, saying you've got unpaid tolls to be paid. And a lot of people giving a lot of money and a lot of details over to scammers. Yeah, and a wide range of ages as well, not just the older demographic.

And surely we're going to talk again. We spoke about this yesterday. Bloody blew up. Tell you what the biggest scam is, the biggest ripoff on this show is that we haven't talked about scams earlier, Ben. So we're going to talk to Sean from NetSafe very shortly as well, tell you what you can do to try and protect yourself from scams. But we did mention it yesterday, and just calls and texts flooding through of people who have been scammed. Producer Joel wants me to call it a scamdemic, is that right, mate? Scamdemic.

Scamdemic. And Sam got scammed. What happened with you? My mum got scammed What happened with you? My mum got scammed Oh poor thing, how old is she? So she is In her 50s But she has MS

So she gets confused super quick And this guy Rang her Told her that he was from The fraud office With the bank and that her credit card had been used in the UK. And of course, she was trusting and followed through and he was on the phone with her for two hours.

Oh my gosh. Jeez. So he managed to convince her to download apps on her laptop and on her phone. He then gained access to both. He had her go into her online banking, so he had access to that. Oh man. He got her to take a selfie. He got her to send her driver's license details. Oh, jeez.

He had the bloody, he was six from six. Jeez. Pretty much. And then she got off the phone with him, rang me and said she'd spoken to a lovely guy from the bank. Oh, no. And did alarm bells start ringing for you instantly? I just thought, oh, my God.

And we rang the bank, and the transaction had already gone through. He had gone and transferred everything onto her credit card and taken it all. Oh, every last dollar? Everything. Savings account, normal account, every last dollar? Everything. Savings account, normal account, bill account, all gone. Oh, the poor thing. And what does the bank do in that situation for you?

They were amazing, and they lodged an investigation straight away. And even though mum had, you know, willingly given all of her details they were able to recover a good chunk of it and yeah I always think like what does that dude do when he comes home from the office hi honey how was your day oh you know good day good day on the floor yeah you wonder how they live in themselves do they do they lie awake at night feeling bad about themselves? I guess you've got, Scott, you may have no guilt in that situation.

You couldn't do that job if you felt guilt, but just you're right. I suppose for them it's a faceless victim, isn't it? Yeah. Exactly. And if they think the bank's paying it back, yeah. I mean, the kicker is that he rang her the next day. What did he say? He said that there had been an issue with the transaction

on being able to recover the money and he would need to get access back to her account. And your mum's like, oh, okay, we'll go through this again. So it's 9-4-8. Oh, jeez. Oh, that is, well, I'm glad she got the majority back. And like you say, Ben, they're probably like, oh, what does it matter?

The banks pay for it anyway. But still, it's all the stress and the worry and all the things that you're causing all these people. Yeah. Well, thank you for sharing your story today. And hopefully that's a good reminder to many more other Kiwis out there. Absolutely. Have a great day, guys. You too, mate.

And next, we get some expert advice on how not to get scammed. And if you do, what are the things you can do? The first steps to take, that's with NetSafe Next. And we're talking a lot about scams. After a whole lot of Kiwis have been scammed recently, and we wanted to help out with some advice from NetSafe. Sean Lyons joins us again. And, Sean, a common feeling we're getting on the text over the last 24 hours,

a lot of people feeling embarrassed by being scammed should people feel embarrassed no that's the other the big part of the problem is because so many people do feel embarrassed because you know some of us think there's a certain type of person that gets scammed and just not the case the the right person for a scam is the right person at that time you know you guys got the best job in the world so you guys aren't falling for an employment scam. But if I hate my boss, then I might be. So the two of us could get the same message.

Nothing to you means an awful lot to me. We found out before that we get people pretending to be us. They're trying to scam people, saying that they've set up Facebook accounts, Instagram accounts, saying that they've won prizes as well. Well, it's all about trust. So people know you guys, they trust you. And so if they get a message from you, from your show,

saying you've won a prize, but all you need to do is send us 50 bucks to release the prize money, people are going to go, well, you know, Jono and Ben, they're guys I can trust. I'm definitely going to do this and I'll give them all my personal details as well. Trust is a really big thing for them. You know, the fact that we don't talk about these things means that, you know, that shame element continues. We've got to crack some of these things wide open. The

more we talk about them amongst ourselves and amongst each other, the less likely the scammers are to win. To be honest, the scammers must be leading a pretty bleak life if they're having to impersonate Ben and me. Now, Sean, how much do you think this is costing the country? It's so hard to put a number on because people don't talk about it. We had the most reported losses to us last year in our history. We had $35 million worth of loss through scams reported to us.

But, yeah, I've seen estimates in the hundreds of millions. Absolutely, I think that's probably pretty accurate. Huge sums of money. Some people get brought along on very complex, very plausible-sounding scams. People are losing six-figure sums. People are putting their houses and their whole life savings on the line. So it's an awful amount of money. If we could see it as one big pool.

Good question for you, Sean, from NetSafe. I wondered this the other night. You know, you order something on a website and online, you put your credit card details in there, and, you know, sometimes it says, would you like to save the details on the site? Is that a good idea? Obviously, it saves you the time next time you go back and order something.

And if you feel like it's a place you bought from before and you feel there's some sort of trust there but should we be doing that um i mean it is convenient and i think if you if you do trust people if you've got a long relationship with them then then perhaps i mean personally i don't um i never click that box i i just um i you know nobody's unhackable nobody's un unimmune from having somebody break into their systems and take their details. I'd rather that I took the few extra seconds and punched in the numbers. Would it be advised, like obviously you don't want to get more credit,

but having just an online-only credit card that you have with a very small limit you use for online purchases? Yeah, I've heard of lots of people do that, and I can see that's a pretty successful technique. People all have a balance that they're prepared to lose, in inverted commas. Nobody wants to lose anything, but at least what they don't have is a card with limitless credit or any of those kind of things.

But, yeah, I mean, I think that's certainly one technique. How many passwords should we have, too? And now it seems like every password, you need a capital letter, you need a lowercase, you need... Two week, two week, that's all you get. Yeah, characters and all sorts. I mean, how many of those should we be running? There's nothing worse than being just told you two weeks.

I take it personally. I think basically you should. The right advice is to have a different password for everything that you have. The problem with having one is that as soon as somebody cracks one, they've potentially got access to everything so they can give it a go. So making them long and complicated, that's what you need to do. But as many and as complex as you can remember. Yeah, and we worry too, AI is getting pretty

smart if they work out where the traffic lights are and pictures. We're in for a bad time. Yeah, look, I mean, there's certainly worries about what that can do, but I mean, you look at what people can do without any of the technology at the moment, that's certainly, that's a big enough worry. I think we need to worry about the next stuff next.

Worry about what the guys are doing with their phone numbers right now. Hey, Sean, well, listen, this has been really interesting. We'd love to keep in touch with you, mate, and it's an ongoing issue, and thanks for all the hard work you're doing at Netsafe. Oh, well, a pleasure. I'm more than happy to help any time we can, guys.