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The Hits, with the Jono and Ben podcast.
Cheers to Dilma, making the world a better tea.
How's your day, Ben?
I know you're getting frothed up for Halloween.
I'm excited.
The weather's looking a bit crappy for Halloween tonight, isn't it?
Just about to say, rain, hail or shine.
It's Ken and Buck, as you are going, it's Ken and Barbie.
Rollerblading too, which, you know, underfoot if it's slippery.
Dicey conditions.
You still committing?
Still committing to going out, but yeah, it's got to be cold.
Why don't you go dressed as a comfortable person in a raincoat with an umbrella?
Yeah, but that's boring.
But also dry.
Yeah, I know.
I can still have an umbrella, but yes, it'll be interesting to see how the Halloween is
for kids around the country if it is wet.
Jesus, reading a lot of the news yesterday, and poor Wayne Barnes, the referee from the Rugby World Cup,
I know we don't want to keep banging on about it,
what's happened's happened,
just he's been getting death threats.
I mean, that's horrible, eh?
I thought it was quite a reasonable, level-headed response, to be fair.
His wife's been talking about it as well,
saying how she couldn't wait to get out of the stadium.
She's been given threats as well.
I mean, it's horrible.
He is just, at the end of the day, doing job and he you know as a referee you're gonna make
some mistakes you're gonna make some good decisions that you know and it's yeah it's
it's sad when new zealand kind of turns we get like the pitchforks and we kind of you know because
he doesn't deserve that and then we're not going to have any refs no one will want to be a referee
in any any sport no it seems like one of those jobs where you're like why are you doing this to
yourself like a parking warden.
You know you're in for some angst somewhere along the line.
And it's important to remember too,
not but two years ago,
we weren't even allowed to leave our house.
The government was telling us to,
you know, when we can.
Bit of perspective, eh?
Who could use the toilet in your house
when they came out.
We were knocking on our neighbours
for having three people, you know?
And I've just had a call,
actually Ben,
I've just had a call from,
oh, it's the people on the Gaza Strip
saying hey guys
feel your pain man
sorry you had a bad rugby game
we had
you know we had
I was thinking about yesterday as well
because you kind of reflect on it
and we had a lot of chances
we turned down shots at goal
to go for tries
which was awesome
and the game we were like
yeah we're going to go for a try
but we had other shots at goal
we missed shots at goal
you know
it feels like the All Blacks have said, hey, we
had chances to win this. There were some decisions
we'd like to change, but that's kind of
sport. Who tracked down
Wayne Barnes' wife?
Taking the old cyberstalk into her necks.
Who knew that she was his wife?
That's really sad. It is sad. It's horrible
when people do that as well. It's only a game, guys.
So yesterday
I thought it was an interesting stat.
South Africa won by one point
in the quarters,
the semi,
and the final.
Yeah.
Their fans will be like,
oh jeez,
this is a rollercoaster,
isn't it?
Getting all the way through.
And now Ian Foster's like
looking for a job.
Producer Joel,
you had quite a good
little hashtag
you wanted to start up.
Fozzy to Aussie.
Fozzy for Aussie.
That's a great hashtag, man.
Yeah.
Have you started it?
It definitely wasn't me as well. I heard it somewhere else. I'm back in Fozzie to Ozzie. Fozzie for Ozzie. That's a great hashtag, man. Yeah. Have you started it? It definitely wasn't me as well.
I heard it somewhere else.
But I'm backing Fozzie to Ozzie.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't he?
Yeah.
Well, jeez.
They need a coach.
Eddie Jones resigned?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They need a coach.
Yeah, exactly.
They'll definitely take him.
Everyone just, you know, take a breath.
Take a breath.
It's sad.
You know, we wanted to win that World Cup.
But, hey, it happened.
And if you can't take a breath, just bully Wayne Barnes online, okay?
Don't do that, dude.
The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.
You know me, Jono.
I don't enjoy mowing.
For some reason, I don't like mowing the lawn.
No, you don't.
You've plastered your entire property with artificial grass.
I have, out the back.
I put some-
Tennis court.
Yeah, artificial grass.
It's not much of a grass area, but I've just put some artificial grass down.
And there's not much at the front that I now need to mow,
but every sort of three weeks I'm like,
I better mow this little area and the berm.
You know, the front bit of the berm just out by the footpath.
Why don't you just roll some AstroTurf over the top of the berm?
I have thought about it.
Yeah, the council, I think, technically own that,
but they don't cut it anymore, right?
So it's up to you.
So if it's your responsibility, you just go,
hey, I'm going to turn it into a tiny little strip of tennis court here.
I've thought about that.
Could be like a little cricket wicket.
Yeah.
So there's, outside the front of my property,
you've got the driveway,
and then you've got the berm on one side,
which pretty much covers, that's in front of the house.
So I know that's my berm.
But then on the one, to the edge of the other driveway,
there's just a little bit, like half a metre, if that,
of that store on my property, if you're looking directly at the house.
And then there's like 10 metres of like the neighbours.
So I'm in a situation now where I don't enjoy mowing the lawns.
And I'm like, well, what do I, like when I mow the burn,
but then I mow this little half
you do that little passive-aggressive strip yeah I did that the other day my wife said oh that's
petty it is when you drive past those in the street you're like oh really that's that's the
neighborly relationship going on there is it I look at this and I'm like well that's only just
a little bit look at all this other bit and so just give and take you do it one time but they
only have to do a little bit of mine it It's not like it's fair, you know?
So what do you do?
Well, normally I've been, last time I did it I was stripped.
So this time I'm like, no, I'm going to mow the whole thing.
So I'm going to go out and mow the extra 10 bloody metres
up and down, up and down of the neighbour's burr.
I feel like 10 metres is an awfully long way.
Felt like 10 metres.
I'm huffing and puffing in there.
And then halfway through there,
because I could sort of see him looking out,
and I'm like, is this almost like a,
maybe it's me sort of going, hey,
you're flexing and going, look, you need to mow your lawn.
You know, is that one of those?
Like, you came up.
Because the guy came out, he goes, oh, I'm so sorry.
We're going to get to mowing the lawns.
You know, like, I'm like, oh, no, I was just trying to.
And I'm like, thanks.
You're like, there goes the neighbor. Went back to my wife was oh thanks a lot i was once
i was looking petty and now i'm looking even more petty because i'm looking like i'm mowing their
lawn and frustration i've had enough of them not and it wasn't even that long it was only because
i was mowing it and i'm like what are you doing that's so what because i know generally in those
when you are confronted with those sorts of conversations,
you end up just talking, just saying stuff.
Yeah.
What did you say to the neighbour?
Yeah, a whole lot of just, no, no, no, I wasn't trying to say that.
It was just because I used to mow the little bit and I wanted to mow,
you know, just rambled a whole lot of stuff quite quickly,
nonsensical stuff to the neighbour.
And they went, okay, I guess.
Sort of just went back inside.
So, yeah, I don't know.
They need a rule.
They need a ruling for the, you know.
So everyone knows.
Well, my dad's just, he's ended up doing the whole streak.
Oh, that's great.
That kind of solves all problems.
He just does it out of boredom in retirement, I think.
Maybe that's what you need to do.
That's the only way you can get past this.
And they'll be like, geez, that guy at 22 is really finicky about his burns.
He's smoking everyone's burn, that's for sure.
The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.
Yesterday, productivity across the country,
probably one of the least productive days
that this country's probably seen in a while.
Yeah, you're right.
You can imagine.
A lot of people sad,
a lot of people feeling the effects of Sunday came through.
I was pitching that maybe we go to Chris Luxon, first big one,
first big move he makes, National Sick Day.
National Sickie Day.
He could have made, if we had won
at that point in time, we could have gone, hey,
if you want to pull a sickie tomorrow, it's all
G with me.
I don't know if that's quite what the National Party are all
about though, eh?
But then he was gloating
that the All Blacks are back on track, his National was in power,, I don't know. But then he was, you know, gloating that the All Blacks
were back on track,
you know, his national was in power.
So they didn't quite get across the line.
But work also,
I know a lot of people's theory as well,
if I'm feeling tired and whatever,
I'll just go to work anyway
because I can be paid to be useless
as opposed to just sitting
on the couch at home.
Now, Producer Joel, you,
I'm not, I'm not.
I wonder if it sounds like you are.
You work by this theory Monday to Friday.
I'm not tying and being useless at Producer
Joel. It seems like you are.
You spend some time
sleeping at work. You're not used to that.
Yeah. But on the weekend.
But you actually were at work and then you had a break in
between. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We
watched the cricket. They went to about 3am on Sunday morning and then had a bit of a nap
and then got on, yeah, and watched the All Blacks.
So this was the alternate commentary collective, you know,
the ACC that do alternate commentary.
They were doing sort of a watch along.
It always feels dangerous sleeping at work, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Like a place I used to, because I used to work overnight too
when I first started, sleep everywhere.
I'd sleep inside. They used to have overnight too when I first started, sleep everywhere. I'd sleep inside.
They used to have giant mail sacks.
Oh, yeah.
And remember when mail was a thing?
Yeah, yeah.
And I could tuck into those and they formed a nice soft cushioning.
So I'd sleep inside the giant mail sacks.
I don't know if they were made of fiberglass or asbestos or something because I'd come out with a full body rash from the mail mail sacks have you slept on the job no i don't really i'm not a napper uh so you know if
i even struggled with sleep at home uh you know or anywhere so not like
not really not really my thing sleeping you know so if i could avoid sleeping i would you know what
my body pretty much does anyway but if i did then i'd be happy to yeah you'd so if i could avoid sleeping i would you know what my body pretty much does
anyway but if i did then i'd be happy to yeah you'd so you'd happily just go 24 hours a day
just doing stuff just like just yeah but i'd like to you know i get the fact that you know
makes you feel you know you re-energize and stuff like that you need it's a necessity yeah exactly
but if you didn't have to do it then i wouldn't want to what's this okay what stuff you're doing
over that sort of five to seven hour period?
It's always stuff, you know.
I've got a garage full of costumes I need to organise.
I've got a cow, a fibreglass cow that I keep going,
oh, I'm going to fix that up.
You know, things like that.
It's not an answer that's important, but that would be, you know, if I...
What's he doing?
It's two in the morning.
He's painting his fibreglass cow.
He's alphabeticising all his costumes in the garage.
Yeah, I've been doing all that sort of stuff.
Fraser, how are you?
How are you this morning, mate?
All right?
Good.
Lovely to have you on.
What happened?
Yeah, work break up.
Had a big night.
And had to go in on the Saturday to serve his bus.
So you've got to climb into the luggage compartment to get at the engine.
And while I was in there, I decided it was nice and dark,
so I just closed the luggage compartment door and went to sleep for half an hour.
Yeah, right, so it's in the guts of the bus.
Yeah, pretty much.
It kind of works, though, doesn't it?
I could see in that state, you'd be like, oh, this is dark, it's cozy, it's comfy.
Engine was warm.
Yeah, it sounds greasy, diesel-y, and filthy to me, inside by the engine.
Ideal situation.
Yeah, great sleeping conditions.
There you go, in the luggage compartment of a tour bus.
Good on you, Fraser.
Have a good day, mate.
You too, bud.
All right, have you fallen asleep at work?
Sleeping on the job, literally. The Hits, the a good day, mate. You too, bud. All right, have you fallen asleep at work? Sleeping on the job, literally.
The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.
I, Jen, my wife and myself, during the lockdown period,
got big fans of isopropyl alcohol.
Got really into it.
You could buy big bottles of isopropyl alcohol.
What do you use it for?
Basically just disinfecting stuff.
You can use it to clean screens, like computer laptop screens, phone screens.
Just basically 99.99% alcohol.
Right.
Very powerful, potent stuff.
And so sometimes I just wipe.
You look at your laptop screen sometimes and you're like,
dear God, what's happened to that?
How has that ended up?
What have I done to this thing?
And once every three or four weeks to just wipe it with this stuff but i put it on in a bowl you just have
to squirt it in a bowl and it's just a tiny little white bowl and i'm running invisalign at the
moment which is kind of a mouth guard bullying your teeth to straighten up so i look like uh
there's someone who's on their way to rugby training with a mouth guard or I just finished a rugby game.
And so when I'm eating or whatever, I'll just put these Invisalign in a white bowl.
And I forgot this morning that I had left about half the bowl full of isopropyl alcohol.
And I put these things in there last night, went off to the shower. So they had just been marinating in 99% alcohol for probably 40 minutes,
45 minutes.
Gotcha.
Then I put them in my mouth without even thinking and start going,
gagging.
So I don't know a lot about isopropyl alcohol.
So I imagine that's not something you can drink.
It's one of those things
That's like
If ingested
Call the poison centre
Right
So I'm like
So this morning
I'm like phoning this
24 hour
0800 poison number
I'm like
That is a problem
Alcohol
And lovely
I mean she was lovely
And she probably deals
With very panicked people
I imagine all the time
Go I've just drunk
And bleed
And I've just swallowed
A bottle of palm olive
Or something And then The first advice That you never want to hear to people I imagine all the time go I've just drunk and bleed Julian I've just swallowed a bottle of palm olive or something
and then the first
advice that you never want to hear okay sir
be calm
I don't want to be calm I've just
poisoned myself with isopropyl alcohol
and she's like have you done this
on purpose oh really
that's a ask that well yeah and I'm like no
I get that there might be instances
where people have
But you're having to go through
These protocol questions
And she's like
Is there anything you need right now
I was like yes
Just tell me what I need to do
Do I get the isopropyl alcohol out
Anyway
As it turns out
Have a drink of water
Get on with the day
Oh is that it
That was it
Well probably monetary situation
Or anything like that
Yeah so I feel very intoxicated
it's funny when those
things happen it's good
I mean a good result
but my mate had a like
he had this massive
sort of a panic attack
couldn't breathe at
this we're at this
concert thing we're at
and he was like oh my
god I think there was
an ambulance rushed
over like that they
gave him a paper bag
to breathe in and out
of and it works like
it works but he was like the ambulance checked out there here mate take this I'm watching works but he was like the ambo checked out there here mate
take this i'm watching this we're gonna rush through we're gonna get him in a middlemore
hospital and it was like no just paper bag it just calmed it down worked perfectly it was like same
situation it was just like oh yeah i'm good now thanks a lot sorry i made such a hassle yeah you
can have a lovely day yeah the hits the Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.
Now, Kim Kardashian over the weekend launched a brand new fashion accessory, a new bra with
producer Taylor.
It's got what?
Built-in nipples.
Yes.
Yes, correct.
And so this is her effort to kind of do her part in fighting global warming, believe it
or not.
Well, yeah.
I think some of the profits go, well, some of the profits go to her of the profits go, well some of the profits go to her.
A lot of the profits go to her.
The company's worth $4 billion.
Saving the planet as well too, as well some of the profits go back to her.
But it's a bra with built-in nipples and here was Kim Kardashian in an ad
that was very funny.
I'm introducing a brand new bra with a built-in nipple.
So no matter how hot it is, you'll always look cold.
There you go.
Don't you want to appear like
just sort of nicely room-temperatured?
I would imagine.
Yeah, I would also imagine.
But a lot of women are saying
this is going to save them money
on getting a boob job as well, right?
Because instead of getting a boob job,
you can just put this bra on
and your boobs look...
Oh, because they're raised with the positioning of them,
I see.
and it looks like you're not wearing a bra.
It creates that whole illusion.
$62.
How much?
$62.
Which I guess,
you can pay a lot for bras,
right?
Yeah,
oh god,
yeah,
like,
that's pretty,
that's pretty decent,
to be fair,
yeah.
There's never been enough nipples on clothing,
has there?
We had an idea,
well,
it wasn't our idea,
actually, our friend Nick, we almost went into business with him uh he had a controversial fashion addition to just your humble t-shirt right he wanted to create the tummy window uh
unisex piece of fashionable clothing a tummy window so it's essentially just a clear window
on a normal t-shirt which just gave you
if you wanted to have
a little tummy
show kisses
if that was your thing
right
they do say the tummy
is the window to the soul
and we had a tummy
to the window of the soul
so it was a silly idea
so we did
but Kim Kardashian
is probably going to make
it's legit right
yep it's a legit product
that you'll be able
to purchase
yep
and now she's signed
a deal with the NBA as well.
Skims?
Yeah, a company that's official nipple wear of the NBA.
So yeah, LeBron James will be running on the court with –
Looking cold.
It's been cold in here.
No, I think it's more the underwear actually.
No, I can't say it.
So yeah.
Because she's just come out with a male line for Skims underwear.
Wow.
And she's got the brand ambassadors.
Do you guys know the soccer player Neymar?
Yeah.
He's like the face of it now.
Well, not personally, but I know the name.
He's like the face of it.
It's pretty great.
She is.
I know, again, the people love to throw shade at the Kardashians,
but she's really good at her business stuff.
She's very smart.
Yeah, very smart.
Yeah.
You can say what you want about them.
They're a lot richer than you and I will ever be. And they don't care, Yeah, you can say what you want about them. They're a lot richer than you and I will ever be.
And they don't care, probably.
We can say what we want about them.
They've reached a stage in life where, well, hey,
they can chuck nibbles on clothes.
They can take a risk.
We can't.
No, we're all right.
We just tried to invent a tissue over the window.
The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.
I find they're very obsessed hitting those candy goals
on Halloween evening.
Oh, just get candy, candy, candy.
And they sort of come home with an abundance of stuff that sort of slowly,
they stop eating over a period of time.
And it just sits and gets stickier over a six-month period.
And you're like, do I chuck this out yet?
Where are we at?
Because they don't want to put it out in the lounge because that's their cat,
their candy, their lollies and stuff.
We got ants last time in one of the kids' rooms because it's stashed away.
Ant infestation.
I think we need to start to pull pin on this old Halloween candy.
Yeah, but they love it and they're looking forward to it tonight,
if it's not too wet.
Now we want to get, hey, we know this is a well-trodden road.
Radio that's gone before us has mined this well many a times.
But ghost stories.
We like to do a thing once a year where we scare Ben.
You're not much of a ghosty person, are you?
No.
Very jumpy.
And 0800 the hits.
If you can give us a call, we've actually got to come clean on our own ghost story.
A bit of a confession of sorts, actually.
It was probably about three or four years ago, was it?
Yeah.
We were on another radio station, on The Edge actually at the time.
And it was around this period.
And there was an international story about a lady who was in a long-term relationship with a ghost.
Yeah.
All facets of the relationship were being covered off.
I know.
This was huge international news.
And so we went.
Before the show, we had a meeting.
We were like, well, we should say, let's put it out there.
See if anyone would call up and if this is happening happening to them are they in a relationship with a ghost in
new zealand and our boss at the time was like that's stupid stupid stupid i just said what
don't even go ahead and so it kind of became a bit of a uh battle of determination from from
our point of view we put it out we took it to air we took it to air okay have we got any people
currently sleeping with ghosts?
We're like, our boss doesn't think anyone's going to call up.
Someone called up.
We're like, oh my goodness.
And it was an amazing story.
Her partner sadly had passed away and they had been in a relationship since together,
doing all sorts of stuff.
All sorts of stuff.
She gave a very detailed description of their erotic liaisons.
And it was almost like listening to a Fifty Shades of Grey book
about how the ghost would sort of turn up in the middle of the night.
We're like, wow, this is an incredible story.
And on the radio, and then it got picked up by New Zealand News,
got picked up by international media.
We're like, look at this, boss.
The New Zealand lady making love nightly to the ghost for hours on end.
We're like, to the boss, look at this, away it goes.
We were like gloating and then our producer
at the time, Dan,
he came up and said, hey guys, you probably should
pull back just a little bit on the gloating.
And he sat us in the studio next door
and I thought,
it was very serious, I was like, has he been dumped?
Has he been made redundant? What's going on?
He's like, you know that ghost story?
We're like, yeah, the one that went international.
The biggest thing we've ever done.
He's like, I teed up that caller.
I made it up just because I didn't want to let you guys down
and have no one call.
We're like, what?
We didn't even know there was an option to make these things up.
So, you know, why would you do that to us?
Yeah.
So that was the story there.
We haven't spoken about it to this day.
Got to come clean
feel better now
I know
I don't think
we ever told our
boss too
to this day
he thinks that
we
yeah
it was a great
bit of radio
and it was
it was
and then
we're like
should we enter
it in the radio
awards
and we're like
we can't
I did a seance
when I was younger too
and you never would believe me
we got Luigi brought out
and we were talking to a lovely ghost
she was adorable
was this in your house
or someone else's house?
someone else's house
my friend Christopher Lane
yeah
and we all sat around
and I said
what am I having for dinner tonight?
big questions
out of all the questions
you could ask
a ghost
you know
what's it like on the afterlife
you know
do you yeah how did the ghost know? it'd been it like on the afterlife, you know, do you,
yeah.
How did the
ghost know?
Well that was
the thing,
and then I was
thinking about it
afterwards,
well the ghost
isn't a psychic,
the ghost is just
a ghost.
Unless it had
been like haunting
your mum while
she was preparing
something in the
kitchen.
Anyway,
the ghost spelt
out Annie Primer
Mother's signature
dish,
coq au vin.
And what was
that French dish?
I feel like those
teenage boys just
trying to spell
something else on a Ouija board. I went home and I had a beautiful plate of coq au vin and it was that teenage boys just trying to smell something else on a ouija board
it was a weird moment i had a beautiful plate of coq au vin chicken dish and uh that that psychic
ghost really uh i don't believe it but anyway karen uh you're on from wellington welcome
good morning uh all right scare us what have you got well the last um building i was working in
wellington a few years back now was somewhat haunted.
We used to see orbs in the security cameras floating through most of
the rooms. And there was this one evening that one of our
receptionists was out in our designated smoking area and it was quite dark
out there and there was a tall, dark, shadowy figure standing across the
table from her. So we gave her a call and asked her you know who's who's in there with you who's that and she's like
nobody I'm here alone so we took a still image of it I've still got it to this day and it was a few
weeks later after that I was at the same table walked out to have a cigarette and cold during
winter I had this huge fluffy black-ass jacket on
and clear as day somebody sidled up behind me
and put their arm right around my waist,
nice and tight, not around the jacket,
inside, just around my waist
and scared the shivers out of me.
You're half edited yourself there.
Yeah, didn't need any nicotine after that.
Straight back inside, yeah, back to the office.
Jeez, that's an HR handsy ghost.
Handsy ghost.
Definitely, it's very handsy.
Very, very, very close, very intimate.
And, yeah.
That ghost touched me that day.
Can you send us the photo you've got?
I could send you the picture, yeah.
You put it up on the hits breakfast.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
Hey, thank you very much, Karen.
Really appreciate it. Happy Halloween. You too, mate. James, up on the Hits Breakfast. Yeah, it's a great idea. Hey, thank you very much, Karen. Really appreciate it.
Happy Halloween.
You too, mate.
James, good morning.
How are you?
How are you?
We're doing really
well.
You've had a run-in.
You've had a ghostly
run-in.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, cynical
people could say
you can explain all
these things away,
but I'm always open
to the thought that
it could be something
different.
Yeah, well, listen,
not this morning.
We're not explaining anything away.
We need radio content.
We're taking it all on.
Okay, okay, all right.
Good on you.
Good on you. So where did this happen?
This happened at a hotel, we understand?
I can't quite recall the name of it.
It was just a normal sort of hotel.
It might have been, God knows, mid-2006.
Me and my partner at the time were just staying there one night
I think it might have been a circus show
not that that's relevant
and I remember waking up one night
during the night rather
and just sort of felt a little bit of a weight
on the side of the bed
Now without going into specifics
we used to have separate beds
but that's another story
I love it, you're giving us a good background beds, but that's another story. I love it.
You're giving us a good background on everything.
That's good.
I was sort of lying there.
It was sort of the middle of the night.
I remember feeling like a weight on my feet, if you like.
But then didn't really think anything of it.
And then in the morning, she said to me, why did I tickle her back?
I said, well, I did.
And I spent the whole night.
She said, no, I woke up to tickling on my back.
I said,
oh,
okay.
Then I relayed my story to her
and yeah,
then there we go.
So,
potentially a bit of a ghostly encounter,
but.
So,
you felt someone sitting on your feet
and she felt someone tickling her back?
Pretty much,
yeah.
I mean,
it could be a sicko,
I guess,
but I'm going with a spiritual encounter
because that sounds better.
I'm going hotel pervert.
Well, potentially.
No, but we're not explaining anything away this morning.
It's a numbers game with ghosts, isn't it?
They're probably just a reflection of society as well.
For the most part, you've got good people.
For the most part, there's a couple of bad eggs
that come out and fire up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so, yeah.
But again, it's like, you know,
you can explain for anyone
instance away. It appears to be a lot
sort of happens around me over the years, that's all.
Yeah, well, hey, James, it's been
a pleasure talking to you. And make
sure you don't ghost us. Keep in touch.
Oh, well, alright. Hey, thanks very much, mate.