Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - Show Highlights: Do We Have The RIZZ??

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

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The Hits, with the Jono and Ben podcast. Cheers to Dilma, making the world a better tea. Jono, you know this song? Christmas Classic, it's just got to number one for the first time ever in the charts in America. Back into streaming services and stuff. It marks the time it was released in 1958 and it's been 65 years that that song's been out. It was never number one until now. How cool was that?

And so why the surge in popularity? I think just because of streaming services, people getting into Christmas. Home Alone gave it a huge boost, and since then it's been in the charts every Christmas. But the one thing I found interesting, this song I've heard many times, and I think when we were on the Santa Parade the other, this was our song that we'd listen to over and over, but she was just 13 years old when she sang this.

Doesn't sound like a 13-year-old, eh? No. She's 78 now. She's how old? 78 now. I thought it should be a 78 when she sang the song, but she was 13 when she sang it. Jeez, we got some young kids out there back in the day, didn't we?

Judy Garland and The Wizard of Oz. We had her jacked up on amphetamines. Not we. We went around. No, we went around. We went injecting her with amphetamines. But just to get the most out of the kids back then. Yeah.

Probably had this lady pinged up for days recording that song. Pretty incredible, though. She does not sound like a 13-year-old in that song. But yeah, the first time it's got to number one this week in the us so 65 years after release congratulations to her yeah i hope her and her bunions enjoy the success uh speaking of which we were filming uh some santa christmas social media videos yesterday and uh producer joel uh we're all wearing christmas hats and ben you had a thing where we're reading out jokes from christmas crackers you had a mouth full of milk and cookies that you leave out for Santa

and then I'd read the jokes and if you found the jokes funny you would spit the milk in Producer Joel's face why? because he's younger than us he paid less and it's fun to bully people sometimes

yeah Producer Joel were like you okay with this? he's like yeah okay it was consensual I mean would we have got away with it in 2020, 2021 with the lockdown? Probably not.

These are post-COVID times. Yeah. So eventually you held on for a long time. You were trying your best. I was trying, but then we all know how it needs to end for social media. Joel going into it, you know how it needs to end, right? All I ask that this video will come out around Christmas time, 100 likes. It'll make it all worth it.

If anything less it will be disappointing because I went home with smelling like milk the slow motion of the milk sort of protruding from your mouth

in the air it came across like a cannon and just went bang smashed in between his eye in between the eyebrows

and he just had a lot of white stuff just dribbling down his face. And you're like, well, this is going to be clipped up and turned into a meme. Poor Joel. Yeah.

100 likes. That's all we need, guys. 100 likes. He just thought, oh, he's not a fine. It's worth it. 100 likes. Why 100? Surely we should be aiming a bit higher than 100 likes.

You've seen our social media. Anything less is going to hate you. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. A cat, a bubble. We got him during the lockdown. He was part of our bubble. That was a sort of a panic buy purchase that my wife made. We got a cat.

And not regretting it. Do you regret the cat? Oh, I like the cat. No, I mean, the cat, that's fine. But he kind of keeps to it. You know, he's not the most affectionate. We've had cats in the past that are very affectionate. He's like, you know, I know your game, mate. You'll hang around when you want food. And then when you're not, he kind not the most affectionate. We've had cats in the past that are very affectionate. He's like, you know, I know your game, mate.

You'll hang around when you want food, and then when you're not, he kind of does his own thing. He's approaching living with you like a flatmate, isn't he? He's not a family. He's a flatmate who comes and goes. Who knows what he gets up to for 12 hours a day. He goes over to the neighbours. They always send us videos and photos.

He, like, hangs out. He sleeps on their bed. They've got rabbits. He kind of hangs out with them and stuff. He hangs out, he sleeps on their bed and we play with it. They've got rabbits, he kind of hangs out with them and stuff. He just lives his best life. How does it make you feel as a cat owner

that your cat gets more joy out of the neighbours than his own? Oh great, well the other night I told you about how my daughter Indy

pretty much woke the house up going, Dad, Mum, what's going on? She was in bed and the cat had brought in a rat into her bedroom so this was you know almost middle of the night stuff woke everyone up he'd brought this rat

inside and we had to kind of deal to this rat no one wants a live rat and so can i just say what's with this jazzy music oh pink panther oh pink panther i see okay you're nice uh and so yesterday i was sitting at home and just facing out towards the garden area and I saw a rat run along past the garden. I'm like, oh my God, there's another rat. And I looked at my daughter and was like, did you see that rat? She's like, I saw the rat. We're like, well, who's the perfect person in the family to go outside and get the rat?

The one who's brought in a rat before. It's the cat. It's the guy. He loves rats. Yeah, so I picked the cat up. He was asleep on a chair. He was a bit like, what are you doing, mate? Now's your time time to strike and i took him all the way over to where the rat area was and i put him next to the garden thinking that his cat instincts would kick in he'd go oh my

goodness is a rat i'm gonna go get it you know it would be like mate there it is there it is there's a rat in there he sort of like looked at me like what are you doing turned back around went straight back inside i'm like that was your time That was your time to shine for the family. He would have done it for their neighbours. If only he had been out there five hours of hunting. Exactly. So he just walked straight back inside. I'm like, do you know what?

I thought. He's taking you for granted, Ben, this cat. He's taking you for granted. So, yeah. I'm not even surprised if the cat's going to be like, hey, I'm heading off on my European OE. I'm probably going to do some stuff. Okay, you can decide to wait with me here or I'm going to get on with my life and i'll probably wait for him when i get up when the cat comes back from the

airport the hits the jonathan ben podcast yesterday had a really uh really funny incident i was uh watching someone film social media have you ever come across someone on the street filming themselves for social media i mean it's obviously when you watch people on social media, that's not too jarring. But when you drive past someone holding a phone up and actually, you know, taking selfies or filming a video as well, you couldn't get a more self-obsessed, self-indulgent act really, could you? Nowadays. You're right when you're watching that act. But then you're like, I get it. We all do it. I guilty of it you know i do it all the time i get my family we do

it i'm like you just gotta guys we're just gonna commit we're here now okay my kids are like yeah okay i got it kids people are looking yeah okay embrace we're dressed in matching costumes we're talking really loudly and i'm like we're committing you know back in the day it used to be the most embarrassing thing in public you could get caught doing self indulgent wise

was looking at your reflection in a window and if your friends caught you doing that but now full phones out there's no shame in it

I do like watching people that will dance in locations and you don't really hear the music you know, because you're far away and they're like, oh, they're doing a dance.

I've never seen a witness TikTok dancing. And look, when you watch it on TikTok, you're like, yeah, I've been in life. You're like, okay, they're committed to a dance. And often they'll do it two or three times. You know, that's another commitment. I'm impressed by that. I feel like there's a social media account

that goes around filming people making social media That would get some hits Filming people you know Taking the photos of people at the beach Lying in the waves All behind the thing There's rogue waves that would bowl over them And you're not getting the perfect shot every time

Producer Joel? There is one it's called Influences in the Wild on Instagram Oh is there? It's very funny You should check it out Influences in the wild Yeah great Well someone's

Beaten me to the chase On that one Yeah There we go That's Because if someone Landed from another planet And you're like

They're like What are they doing Yeah Oh well they're Filming themselves Doing not much Something probably Quite mundane

And they're going to Put it on a platform And then millions of people are going to watch it. And they're like, why? Yeah. You're like, I don't know. I don't know. We don't know, but that's what we're doing.

The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Riz was the Oxford Dictionary's Word of the Year for 2023. You know, it feels like you have to be a certain age to say Riz with any confidence and also to not get mocked for saying it. And you are about to mock me for saying a collection of words. Now, these are the most used Gen Z slang words from 2023. Yeah, so things like Riz, which means charisma.

When someone's got a bit of charisma, they've got Riz. And there's a whole lot of other words that I'm sure you don't even know the meaning of in this list of the most 20 most common you use phrases by Gen Zers. Bussin, extra, salty, cap. They're all in there. All your favourites, all your favourite words. And what we're going to do right now, or we've actually already done it. Yeah, don't pretend that this is new ridicule. Now I just have to relive the pain and excruciation of this call.

Just before we rang, Brenna from the office who works there, she's slap-banging in the Gen Z market. These are words that she can use with confidence. Producer Joel, every time I say one of these words, shakes his head, puts his head in his hands. SMH. Yeah, he's smacking ham.

Shaking my head. That's right, shaking his head. So see how many of these you can insert into a conversation and see how awkward it was. Have a listen. Hello. Morning, how are you? Hi, Brenna.

Yes. You sus on this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be all good. Now, don't get all salty on me. But what's been going on? Um, not much. That's shook.

Shook. Bussing, bussing hard. Where did you learn these words from? I'm just having a conversation. Are we still on for the meeting today? Yeah, absolutely. Good, just doing a vibe check on that one. Yeah, vibe will be high.

Are we going to be talking about the NPCs? I'm so confused. Cap, drip drip Yeet Yeet Oh no I think your kids will be cringing right now Don't be simping on me Yo

Listen Ik yik Ik yik to you. What is happening? All right, a bit of finna, oof, yeet, extra. I've got some boozy stuff to go and do, shoosh. See you, Brenna. See you.

Oh, Brenna, that was, how did he go? Like, he's trying to insert some of the best terms of today. I don't know if you could tell. Seamlessly integrated into the conversation. Everyone just felt clunky and horrible. But how was it for you? I mean, the effort was there. But if we're going to talk Gen Z slang, a negative riz. Yeah.

Negative riz. Stand to that, man. Stand to that. It just felt like probably a tornado of Gen Z slang and not delivered well. Yeah. Would you say hold this L? You know, as far as the call goes?

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Why were you thinking that, Ben? Just simp, mate, simp. You know, mid. You know, just another mid effort from you, mate. Why were you thinking that Ben? Just simp mate Simp There you go Mid You know Just you know Another mid effort from you mate

I think I'm Have I used that in the right term? We're getting a thumbs up From producer Joel So that's the main thing Oh well thank you so much Brenna For

Letting us wake you up For that No worries at all Alright We'll see you at work Drip drip Yes See ya The hits The Jono and Ben podcast wake you up for that? No worries at all. All right, we'll see you at work, drip, drip. Yes. See ya.

The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Ben, I was just doing some work on a street that was named 2005's most picturesque street. They've got a sign

below the road sign. Really? 2005, I don't know what's happened over the last sort of 15 to or so years. I don't know, is it a yearly competition or do they just have it once in 2005?

But it's a beautiful street. You'd hope so. Yeah, you would. Well, maybe it was in 2005 and now it's like, ugh. You let yourself go. I mean, there's some lovely streets out there, but all of the lawns on every property meticulously mowed. Like the berms or the lines

along the footpath there. Not a speck of, not a blade of grass hanging over. And across the road there was an older gentleman and he was tending

to his lawn. And it is like carpet. Like green carpet, the lawn. And I think at one point I saw him with like a big not like big hedge trimmers or anything but an oversized pair of scissors just just blade by blade just kind of went over i said mate that is some nice lawn you've got there and he's like i'll take you

out the back and then so i'm taking out the back of this lovely sweet couple's house, met his wife. She came up, big hug, kiss on both cheeks. And he's like, look at this lawn. And he's displaying his fine lawn. It was an amazing lawn? Beautiful lawn. Beautiful. Garden tour of the property as well.

25-minute garden tour. Lovely. And one of those situations where I'm like, these people probably shouldn't invite strangers into their house. It's very loving and very, you know. Very, very, yeah. Very open arms approach. It's kind of how you want New Zealand to be. It felt like we were back in the 80s.

Yeah, you know, come over, mate. Yeah, who's this? I don't know, but they just want to stay, you know. I'm pretty sure they don't lock their doors. Yeah, one of those. They're those sort of people. But I do find I get invited into some odd situations. We were working in America once and we were staying in a hotel. Remember when we'd just finished broadcasting our radio show?

That's right. And we were walking past a room of aspiring hip-hop musicians, weren't we? And they were filming a music video in their hotel room. And walked past and they said, do you want to be in our music video? And I were filming a music video in their hotel room and walked past and they said, do you want to be in our music video? And I said, yes, please. And ended up going into the room. A lot of people in there,

very overcast, cloudy conditions in the room. Money around, weren't they? A lot of money flying. Expensive bottles of alcohol as well. And I'm like, what is my role in this? And they're like, we just need you to sit on the bed in between all the ladies with the you know they they were bouncing around and doing all sorts of stuff and sharon who were walking with it working with at the time she walked past the hotel room

she looked what are you doing like this is my new friends performing a music video for their hip-hop song and i said they need some. Can you come in and dance? Sharon wasn't into that. She was like, words that we can't even repeat on the radio. And I was stuck in there for quite a while. Well, once you start,

you're committed to a video. You're in there. Continuity. Where'd that guy go? The awkward white guy on the bed. He's just disappeared from the hotel room scene. The hits. The Jono and Ben podcast.

Now, I had a moment yesterday where, you know, and I guess it's one of those situations where your kid's asking you to do something and you're like, I can see where you're coming from, but the answer, I think the answer's no. Unfortunately, my daughter had to leave. You know, Crocs, very popular right now. I've introduced, I've dipped my toes literally into the croc game. Got the gibbets and all.

How many, you've gone gibbet, crazy. How many gibbets have you got? I've got a lot now. I've got a lot of those are the little bits of croc charms as well, the little things you can see with, you can get like a Mickey Mouse one or you can get a Lakers one or you can get whatever it is you can decorate your crocs with your own charms. I've got more than I need at one time so I can rotate i can i can rotate i'm glad you've got the confidence now

because when you first received them for your birthday you were a little bit tentative you're like oh i don't know i don't know but you really have gone from yeah zero to a hundred embracing the gibbets yeah so one of my daughters as well was into the crocs she's in the crocs game and sometimes she'll grab some of my you know we share the gym Crocs. She's into the Crocs game and sometimes she'll grab some of mine. You know, we share the jibbitz. It's fine. It's an open jibbitz relationship. But she had her Crocs and she had to leave them outside somewhere for a couple of hours while she was doing something.

You know, one of those leave your shoes out situations. Came back out later, someone had stolen like a whole lot of her jibbitz. Oh, just the jibbitz? Just the jibbitz. Like about six or seven jibbitz. There were still some on there, but not the Crocs were still there, but someone had come along and helped themselves and she was you know i mean imagine that's a time-consuming process too like surely the gibbets out surely just take the whole take the pier yeah but they'd taken the gibbets out she was you know she was gutted by this and and

then she said dad can we call the police and i was like and i had to have the conversation like well we could but what are they what are they good i mean yes they'll be you know it is stealing it's theft and you know and i had to have a conversation with her i was like what the feeling you're feeling right now is a horrible feeling you're like you feel stink you feel horrible that someone's taking something of yours so remember that if you're ever in a situation where you're around someone else that's taking something you know remember the feeling that someone else gave you it's a horrible feeling i remember when i was about 10 or 11 years old i felt like it was yesterday just been at the tenpen bowling uh came outside and there was a guy and he's like give me a shirt and i was like what

you see give me a shirt and so i said said, okay. He gave you your shirt. And I was just wandering around, Pam, you're shirtless. He took your shirt and went off. Oh, what just happened there? Yeah. It was frightening. And then the police actually. Oh, they got involved.

Maybe they get involved in this one. Yeah, they did. I was walking along and then they were obviously like, who's this skinny white kid wandering around with no shirt? They pulled over and they said, are you all right? And I said, oh, there's a guy who just took my shirt about half an hour ago. They're like,

hop in, mate, we'll take you home. So this could, they pulled over. Oh, so maybe I should have called. Yeah,

because I was like, well, I could. I know how busy the police force is. They've got the Crime Stoppers line too. The less important.

Maybe, why don't we call Crime Stoppers during the ads? It's not 111. What's, is it 555? 105.

105, thank you, Joel. We'll call 10-5 And go Is this in your Well it's Jurisdiction

And then they might go No it's a 111 call Get on there Hit and go Hit and go Hit and go We'll do that now The Hits

The Jono and Ben Podcast Now I was playing a game With kids over the weekend Well they were playing a game And they were trying to Introduce me to it And I hadn't played this before It was causing me

A lot of frustration You know when you're trying to Get in to it. And I hadn't played this before. It was causing me a lot of frustration. You know, when you're trying to get in on a game and you're not quite picking up on it. And I think that's the point of the game. It's basically someone will go, I'm going to an island, and then they'll say something they can bring. And other people will get to ask what they can bring to the island. And there's kind of a trend that you need to work out. And the people, the other members of my family worked out the trends very, very quickly.

Right. And that was causing me frustration. So my family worked out the trends very, very quickly. Right. And that was causing me frustration. So I guess we'll just kick into it right now. I've got Producer Taylor, Producer Joel in with us as well. So, okay, I'll say I'm going to an island and I'm going to bring a beach ball. And then you can ask me if you can bring it, and I'll tell you if you can bring it or not. We'll go around you, Producer Joel.

Yeah, sweet. Can I bring a lizard? Yeah, you can bring a lizard. Awesome. Taylor, do you want to bring something? Can I please bring a dog? You can bring a dog? Okay. Jono? A towel.

No, you can't bring a towel. No towel. Okay, but I will bring off the back of what you... Why can't he bring a lizard? What did you bring? A dog? I'll bring grapes. How about I bring some grapes? You guys like grapes can bring what did you bring a dog i'll bring grapes how about i bring some grapes you guys like grapes what about you uh i'll bring sherbet sherbet can i bring some sherbet yeah i like sherbet okay uh we'll go back to you can i bring

taylor swift yeah should be right all right to you john sunscreen no why can't i bring sunscreen you can't bring sunscreen I mean it's practical to have it but you can't What when you haven't explained what the game is I feel like you three are in on this game

This is what's causing me frustration You haven't told Tell me the rules Tell me the rules But you've got to work out what the rules Yeah

Oh is this my thing? It's a trend though But you all know what the rules are Well we know the trend They've all picked up on what the trend is No you haven't just

picked up on the trend I'm not an idiot. What you've done is you've had a conversation while I've gone to the toilet and said this is how we'll play this angle. So you bring a ton of Swift. I'm going to bring a towel because we're going to need a towel at the island.

Oh, yeah. I'll bring a Looney Tunes costume. Oh, you can bring that. John, what would you like to... Costume, Looney Tunes? Okay, yeah. I'll bring some shoes for the Looney Tunes costume. No, I can't bring that. Why can't I bring that oh John what would you like to costume okay yeah uh I'll bring some shoes for the looney twos costume I can't bring that why can't I bring that why because he's got the costume I know it

wouldn't make sense but in shoes you can't bring you can't bring the thing why can he bring a lizard she can bring a dog he can bring costumes what else did you bring and this is what was frustrating me about the family the other day so what it would happen there would be someone who says the first thing there's a trend what is the trend well you've got to figure it out you've got to figure it out

everyone else has figured it out you've told them what to say alright ok 4487 is our text number 0800 the hits just introducing Jono to a game that I found frustrating when the family

were playing it over the weekend it was it was frustrating me you've got to work out the trend someone sets the scene saying they're going

to an island and then they allow things. They're the owner of the island for some reason and you have to work out what the trend is, things you can bring. We were just playing one before that I set the trend for. We'll just have another quick round, see if you've worked out the trend.

I'm going to bring, let's say, a candy cane. Candy cane. Producer, Taylor, what would you like to bring? I'll bring an envelope. You can bring an envelope. I'll bring an envelope. Yeah, you can bring an envelope, okay. I'll bring an Easter egg. Okay, Jono? This is the game.

These three have got some sort of inner secret. I thought you were allowed to bring those items. I'm just allowing they can come on the island. Well, I'll bring my laptop. You can't bring your laptop. Sorry, this is the, if you've just joined us, this is how the game works. So they just basically name stuff, Ben says, yeah, you can bring it. Then I name something, he's like, no, you can't bring your laptop. If you've just joined us, this is how the game works. So they just basically name stuff, Ben says, yeah, you can bring it.

Then I name something, he's like, no, you can't. There's a trend, there's a theme going on. I don't know what it is. No, that was what's frustrating me. 4487 on the text, 0800 the hats. We've got some people that think they might know the trend. David, you're on. Welcome to New Zealand's breakfast. End the madness for us.

G'day. So it's because he started it by saying, can I bring? So obviously if you said, can I bring a laptop, he would have said yes. So you said, I'll bring a laptop. I like the way you think, but it's not, I mean, that could be it. That could have been the trend, but it wasn't my particular trend. But you're right, that could have been the trend. So we're sending out some hell pizza, but not the trend that I was looking for today.

I like the way people... Leave David on. Does he want to say something? Do you want to swear or something in frustration, David? No, I'll mute when I do that. Okay. Yeah, he's going to mute himself. Okay. I'm internally swearing at the moment in this frustration.

So... Not the trend, but that could... Can I bring my wallet? Well, hang on. What was the last thing that was brought? Easter egg. No, you can't bring your wallet. Sorry, mate.

You've got to leave your wallet at home. What is this island? We're bringing some no useful items. Surely we want to let you. I know your sunscreen wasn't allowed before. Okay, we'll get Celia on from Lower Hutt. What are you going to bring to the island? Since the last one was Easter egg,

I'm going to bring some guacamole. Can she bring guacamole? You can bring guacamole, yeah That's fine What is it? Taylor, would you like to bring anything else? Guacamole Can I please bring a Oh really mate

Well I shouldn't have gone back to you mate I'm a bit hard to say I'll bring Ethiopia Oh wow Oh, really, mate? Well, I shouldn't have gone back to you, mate. I'm in hard to smell. Just Joel, he's jumping in. I'll bring Ethiopia. Oh, wow. You're going to bring a country to the island. You can bring that as well. What is it?

Let's put Jono out of his misery. So this particular trend was that it's had to start with the last letter of the word that I would say. So the last particular. So if I would say Easter egg, then the next thing was to start with a G. That was my trend, but the trend can change each time based on the person who sets the scene. And that was frustrating me because I'd think, I've got this game, and then they'd change the trend

to something else. So you picked up on it, Celia? Yes, I did. Oh, well, don't I? This is one of those moments where you're like, you don't, you look like an absolute schmuck. Fun game, though. It is a fun game, actually. Yeah, we look like an absolute schmuck. Fun game though. It is a fun game actually. Yeah, we'll send you on a prize. Thanks so much for playing this morning, Celia.

My pleasure. Thank you very much, guys. Can I start one? Yeah. Can I bring to the island Bill Cosby? Oh, well, I don't know. It's your island, mate. No one else is going to come with you. Good luck with that one. Just me and Cosby

on the island if you want I don't know what you get up to the hits the Jono and Ben podcast now at the end of the year the old

school prize giving start to kick into action don't they Ben you got a couple of those coming up yeah a couple of them although my daughter's

doing high school musical at the moment so she can't be at her school one have you sat through high school musical not yet this weekend I'm doing that school musical at the moment, so she can't be at her school one. Oh, have you sat through high school musical? Not yet, this weekend. Oh, nice.

This weekend, yeah. Yeah, the prize giving's driving to them. You're like, this is going to be a haul. This is going to be a long haul. And every parent has the same thought. Don't pretend you don't. Yeah, they are long. They are long.

They can be quite long. But an amazing moment to celebrate the achievements of the kids in the school. I mean, you're there watching 99% of people you don't know getting awards clapping away. I love the clap. Sometimes the schools would go, okay, let's hold our clapping to the end of the group and do it together because you don't have to clap up and down, up and down. It's a wonderful system. And your hands start to get all swollen and red, don't you?

And your claps, if you're having to clap so prolifically. We always had that issue when we were filming the TV show. We felt like these poor people were just making clap until their hands are bleeding. And you end up sort of just patting your thigh half-heartedly by the end of the night.

But they did have, last night at my school's, my son's prize giving, clap at the end. Let's get a group up, clap at the end. Get them through. Get the numbers through. So they actually ran. And to be honest,

when you're there, you're like, this is actually really special. And it was a special event. And they had 1,500 of the boys do a haka for the new head boy when they announced the new head boy for 2024.

And when you're watching a haka in the room, it really does send, you know, shivers down your spine doesn't it so it's powerful yeah very powerful and it And that's just recorded on the phone. So in the room. Yeah.

And as your hairs stand up. And I just wanted to take a moment. I know there's been protests this week with Māori and a section of our country who are not happy or feel a bit worried about the future of what lay ahead for them with this new government. And they've been out protesting and airing their concerns. And you look at something like that and go, wow, that's unique to us.

All nationalities at that school are doing the haka. And it's something that we need to preserve as a country. Nowhere else in the world could you see that or have that. And we're changing the name of government agencies and people are like, I don't know what Waka Kotahi stands for. What do you do? Because you've been complaining about it for three years.

And hopefully when you get your letter in the mail saying you need to update your registration from Waka Kotahi, you can connect the dots. Well, it still says New Zealand Land Transport Agency. Now they're reversing it around the other way. You think there's more important things that we could be focusing on. It's like we're taking a step backwards. It's like we've kind of moved through that part.

Look at our kids and look at what you experienced last night, like the younger generation embracing it. It feels like there's a few older boomers that are like, hey, no, we need to go. It's like we're not. We're moving forward. Yeah. And I know, hey, it's a Winston thing,

and he's appealing, trying to appeal to a certain demograph that he obviously campaigned off, but really, did it affect anyone's lives? And I know this is more intricate than just changing government department names. There's more to it as well, but I think there's a world we can live in as a country where, whether it's Labour in power or National Act and the grumpy old guy in power,

that everyone can feel included. Yeah. Well, that's what everyone wants, right? Well, you look at what's happening in Gaza. Yeah. You're like, we're worrying about what Waka Kotahi is. Yeah, I know, I know. In the grand scheme of things.

I know. I know it's something to be proud of. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And there's a lot more to it than they get. And it is worrying when they're starting to look at the treaty and all that sort of thing. Like, oh, guys, come on. We've worked through that.

Yeah, it feels like moving forward. And you don't want things like you experienced last night to just feel token. Okay, we'll have a haka here, but we won't embrace Maori culture and other aspects of life and stuff. So, yeah. And that's what they're running the risk of doing, right?

Yeah. Serious chat. Yeah. Jono and Ben.