Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - Show Highlights: Do You Talk To Your Hairdresser?

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

Jono can't weigh in on the hairdressers debate. Ben had a win over his wife! Is AI taking over the world? The old school shop awards! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Hits with the Jono and Ben Podcast. Cheers to Dilmar, making the world a better tea. That's our flowers. Kia ora, this is the Jono and Ben Podcast, brought to you by Dilmar, making the world a better tea. Do try it. Have a Dilmar a day, don't we? And I'll tell you what, so far it's keeping the doctor away. I haven't been to the doctor since we started Dilmaring per day.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Yeah, no, it's been great. We still have a share of tea in the morning while we're doing the show. And today, it's a fun one on the podcast, isn't it? Although, it was fun. It was all fun and games until you sabotaged something. Speaking of Dilmar, we do the wonderful Dilmar dates, don't we? Every morning, we celebrate your anniversaries, birthdays, any big milestones that you may be enjoying on the day.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And Ben, you read out a birthday. Yeah, there's a list that we add to where people text through and they want a shout out for birthdays and anniversaries and stuff. And it gets in a flurry. It gets updated on the fly. We don't pre-read it. No, we get to it and you'd put a silly name in there which i didn't realize i just got to it like a second or two before reading i went oh that's an interesting
Starting point is 00:01:11 last name trying to get my mind around how to pronounce it pronounce it because i don't want to get that get that wrong no uh and this is how it went down okay game show that you fade out on uh happy 40th birthday today to Mike Ockhurst. Happy birthday from your wife, Maya. Did I do it? Oh, is that a joke one, is it? Is that a joke one? I see that now. I was like, wow, that's an unusual last name,
Starting point is 00:01:38 so I'm really happy to pronounce that. Mike Ockhur that. Mike. Ockers. Yeah. Lowbrow stuff. Really lowbrow stuff. Like, really low. As I said it, like, because I went in the pause, I was like, have I said that correctly?
Starting point is 00:01:55 And then you guys started laughing, and then it rattled me from the next bit. And then I kind of went, what's that? What? Oh, that's. Yeah, like, very low. Lowbrow. Definitely lowbrow.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Oh, God. A grow. Lowbrow. Definitely lowbrow. Oh, God, a grow-up, Giorno. Just growing up. All the names. You got me. You got me. You got me. I didn't probably deliver it with the gusto and conviction that maybe you wanted. We still got it across the line.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I was very tentative because I was like, ooh, okay. But anyway. Today as well, we've got a fun wee podcast for you today. AI, advanced intelligence, it's really, it's starting to freak the world out. Yeah. Particularly with what it's starting to freak the world out. Yeah. Particularly with what it's doing with music artists at the moment. See, some of the examples we've got today on the podcast are just crazy. You couldn't tell the difference.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So what is it? The robots are now singing like popular artists, and they can sing their songs. It just sounds like, oh, there you go. That's the AI saying, mate, shut up about us. And I had a bit of a win at home. It doesn't happen very often. It doesn't happen at work, that's for sure, when I'm reading out Dilmar dates.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So that's on the podcast. Enjoy. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Now, artificial intelligence has been talked a lot about over the last little while, chat GPT and stuff. It's getting smarter and smarter. And now it's too smart. The music industry, very worried worried as are a lot of
Starting point is 00:03:26 industries because there's a song that's been floating around and it sounds exactly like a drake and the weekend have collaborated together but it's all been made by artificial intelligence they haven't sung any of this no so uh just a producer a music producer has typed in uh write me a drake song boom, it's spat out lyrics. He's taken those lyrics, gone to another website and gone, make Drake sing this and have a listen. Yeah, with a weekend. Have a listen.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So that's not, that's all just a computer. It's not even Drake. That's incredible, eh? I was quite worried there that AI Drake was going to start swearing. Does he start swearing? Yeah, like a Drake, you know, like it's full. There's a version that's uncensored as well. They're even doing, because, you know, The Weeknd,
Starting point is 00:04:17 who obviously collaborated and, well, didn't collaborate, but sounded like in that song, they always said he sounded very similar to Michael Jackson, right? Well, now they've even got an artificial intelligent version of Michael Jackson singing The Weeknd. So again, that's just AI. Singing like Michael Jackson. Now this is, the music industry alike, this is disastrous.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Ariana Grande, you want another one? This is her singing as well. It's not her singing, but it sounds like her singing. And I know the music industry alike, this is disastrous. This is no good. But if they actually look at the positives, how much are they having to pay the actual artists? Because you can save a bit of coin.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Oh, that's true. And let's not start talking about radio hosts, Ben. Because that could happen. It's frightening. I just thought AI was a fun thing where I could put Ben's face on an adult film actor, get a video out there, have a laugh amongst the office. But it is. I sound like my dad, and John Pryor has been researching ai for years right into it he's
Starting point is 00:05:26 like this is this is something to be quite worried about the tech companies a lot of them are like hey we need to stop because it's just it's moving too fast so we don't know what we could we're creating here now stephen hawking you know the genius that was stephen hawking the smartest man in the world one of those people who i thought was still going, but passed away in 2018, Stephen Hawking. Before he passed away, he had this to say on artificial intelligence. Success in creating AI could be the biggest event in the history of our civilization, but it could also be the last, unless we learn how to avoid the risks. Alongside the benefits, AI will also bring dangers, like powerful autonomous weapons.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It will bring great disruption to our economy. And in the future, AI could develop a will of its own. The rise of powerful AI will be either the best or the worst thing Ever to happen to humanity So it's going to be the best or the worst thing to happen to humanity And ironically Stephen Hawking sounds like a robot When he's talking about AI Saying how it could just take our mind of its own Well it can, I was reading an article
Starting point is 00:06:37 Saying that the robots will become so advanced in intelligence That they will start to develop emotions They'll be able to deceive us They will probably demand rights This is like that movie Megan will become so advanced in intelligence that they will start to develop emotions. They'll be able to deceive us. They will probably demand rights. This is like that movie Megan. The hits. The Jono and Ben podcast.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Recession set to hit earlier, expecting the cost of living to rise around about $150 a week to hit Kiwi's back pocket. That's what they reckon. So, great news. Fighting around. I can't imagine the wages are going to rise with it either. I know. It's a worrying time.
Starting point is 00:07:08 We got into some financial chitchat earlier in the show, and I started talking about stuff I was well aware of. Yes, exactly. But I do know the reserve bank's trying to put us in a recession. Yeah, which probably makes sense for some people, but I don't. But it's going against all my financial beliefs. Yeah. But you're right. I'm sure there's a greater good somewhere. Well, hopefully. makes sense for some people but i don't but it's going against all my financial beliefs yeah but
Starting point is 00:07:25 you're right i'm sure there's a greater good somewhere well hopefully i went to a store okay it was a fish and chip shop and i walked in and on the on the window they've got all the signage and what they have blah blah blah but on there they had a big gold star and it had new zealand fish and chip shop awards regional best chip winner 2001 oh well no not 2001 sorry 2002 oh sorry thanks for real details you haven't named the store. It's not like we're going to go, oh, no, he's clearly lying about that. I'm not going to lie. You know me.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I'm transparent. That was a year later. Why did that make a big difference to your story? It doesn't. It doesn't. I just made it sound like it did. Oh, hang on. I got that wrong wasn't
Starting point is 00:08:25 even a fish and chip shop that would have made a big difference to your story if you're like and i ordered three calamari they're like this is a hairdresser mate yeah but i suppose a year splitting hairs uh but yeah 2002 as we've stipulated, regional best chip winner, but still trading off it. Well, I guess you keep on an award. But 21 years later. They've probably had 12 different owners since 2002. This is my thing. So what do you think?
Starting point is 00:08:55 When's a good time for them to take the award? This is my question I want to throw to you. How long can you trade off an award for? We do it all the time. Best comedy winner of the TV. We won that once. Yeah, 1992. Yeah, in 1992. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I wasn't quite that late, but yes, I know what you mean. And it's always a pain in the ass to peel that sticky stuff off the window too, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, you've got to get the bloody orange
Starting point is 00:09:15 dissolved out because it'll leave all the sticky bits once you've peeled it off. Your dream was for us to enter the Emmys. Not win. No.
Starting point is 00:09:24 That would never happen, but just big go. Emmy Awards. Big font. Big font. Size 39. Huge. Tahoma. Emmy Award and then entering just kind of small,
Starting point is 00:09:35 so you couldn't really see it. The Emmy Award. Entering John Owen Beatty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we'll go, wow, Emmy Awards. You're like, yeah, we entered. Yeah. And we did that last year.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. We entered the Emmy Award. I don't know why. It was a huge waste of my time. I signed up to the International Emmys website. I paid an Emmy. But now we can say it. We're Emmy Award entering.
Starting point is 00:09:55 But I did all of this for you, okay? We didn't win. And you've never traded off at once. I was trying to make your dream come true. $150 US. $150 US. I'm paying to be part of the International Emmy Awards Academy. So now, this is where I'm leading.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Okay. This is why I should have focused on these details and not the 2002. I'd like you to trade a bit more off that. Emmy Award entering Jono and Ben. Okay, we'll put it out in our next marketing campaign. We'll get it around fish and chip shops around the country. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Everything is pointless without you.
Starting point is 00:10:32 That is Lewis Capaldi, and he was actually, we played this earlier this morning, he was very upset to see that his net worth, he typed it into the internet, people were claiming it was a lot more than he actually had in his bank account. According to the latest reports of Forbes and Wikipedia, into the internet, people were claiming it was a lot more than he actually had in his bank account. According to the latest reports of Forbes and Wikipedia, Lewis Capaldi's estimated net worth is $10 million.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I've got less than £200 in my bank account right now. So who the f*** has got my $10 million? You mean to tell me I'm kicking about in the same clothes I've worn for the last six months? And he's got 10 million bucks. Yeah. And he was very worried about the tax man. He was. Or tax woman.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Or tax person. Or tax, just gender neutral tax people chasing him down. Ben, we looked at yours. You're sitting in the five mil bracket as well. I'm doing great according to my net worth, which is totally untrue. Much like Lewis Capaldi, I'm worried that the tax man's going to chase me down. I don't for a second believe Lewis Capaldi has got $200 in his bank account. Maybe one account.
Starting point is 00:11:31 But there's probably other accounts as well. Now you were eavesdropping, being nosy, Parker, in a conversation. Yeah, my wife was having a conversation with a couple of friends, and I was like, oh, this is an interesting conversation. And I was pretending I was doing a conversation with a couple of friends and I was like, oh, this is an interesting conversation. And I was pretending I was doing other stuff at the same time. I was like, oh, listening in, listening in to this. Were you engaged in another conversation while trying?
Starting point is 00:11:53 I was and I was trying to do the thing. You've lost me here, mate. I lost it, but I was listening away to the conversation my wife was having with her friends. And it was to do, because one of them had been at the hair salon and they were talking about how you spend, and now I'm not trying to make you,
Starting point is 00:12:08 some people spend a long time at the hair salon, Jono. This is all a bit foreign to you. Just because I have no hair and you've bullied me, you've bullied my disability for a number of years, I still know the basic structure of how a hair salon works. I'm sure your wife, Jen, goes and spends time at the hair salon. The people come and they regale tales of what goes on in this magical building. Tell me more.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Tell me more. It's like you always want to get into first class. What happens there? So, yeah. So, they were talking about going to the hair salon and being there for a couple of hours. And they were talking about the conversations. And they're saying, you know, chatting away and how the person who works in the hair salon would have to talk all day to people.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And one of them was saying, yeah, I think about that quite a lot. So what I do is I don't really talk to them that much. I saw the same person because I feel they're talking all day. I feel like give them a break. Give them a break. So give them an hour off chatting. I see because it would be fatiguing. I mean, if you start cutting hair at nine o'clock, you finish six, seven o'clock at night. They them a break. So give them an hour off chatting. I see, because it would be fatiguing. I mean, if you start cutting
Starting point is 00:13:05 hair at 9 o'clock, you finish 6, 7 o'clock at night. They do long days. If you're talking that entire time to every customer And my wife and her friends will be like, no, you've got to talk away. It's what you do. It's all part of it. They love it. You would feel an obligation to talk. You wouldn't want to talk, but you'd feel an obligation. Yeah, you
Starting point is 00:13:21 would have to. I mean, you. No, you. I'm talking about you. You go to the hair salon. Yeah, oh yeah. I go to my barber, Matt, and I go, yeah, we chat. It's good though. I enjoy it. I enjoy catching up with him.
Starting point is 00:13:31 But I'm, you know, we're a half an hour. We're not, you know. Yeah, it's not an hour or two. Yeah, I know what you're saying. I, yeah, I would like that situation where these people, they can't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It's like when I sit next to someone on a plane. Oh, no. Conversation kidnap victims. They can't't leave i always feel sorry for the person that gets sat next to you on a plane i'm like well there you go we delve deep don't we we delve deep on a plane and i can tell i know the moment that they don't want to keep talking but i push them because if you keep pushing them they get across the threshold and then they're like oh no actually we've reached a good place here just keep throwing stuff at the wall. So 0800, this is what we want to
Starting point is 00:14:06 chuck over. Not just hairdressers but are you in a service industry? Maybe an Uber driver, a masseuse, a nail technician, whatever. Do you enjoy people talking to you? Do you like the clients coming in and talking? Or would it be nice every now
Starting point is 00:14:22 and again, like if someone goes along to go, hey, you know, like, hey, good to see you. I'll give you a half an hour or an hour break. So you don't have to talk. Maybe that's what you want. 0800 The Hits would love to hear from you. 4487.
Starting point is 00:14:33 We'll find some hell pizza as well for our favourite calls and texts next. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. My wife and her friends were having a bit of a debate about whether they're going to the hair salon, whether they wanted conversation, the people cutting hair and styling and all that stuff, or it would be nice to give them a bit of a break because that's all they do all day is talk nonstop. Yeah, they're very good at it though, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:14:57 So are I here, so are I here. They're kind of like improv actors with scissors in their hands. Now, we've got someone from the hair industry. Rebecca. Hello. From the hair industry. Now, tell us, do you like the chit-chat when you're doing the snip-snip? Yes, we do.
Starting point is 00:15:14 We love it. But I feel like, now, this is where I'm going to come in and say, you guys as an industry need to phone up and go, it's fine, talk with us, we're happy. Let's talk to the real Rebecca. You're having a bad Monday. Ben Boyce comes in, yep, yep, yep, yep. What are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:15:33 It's kind of nice. It takes your mind off anything that's happening in your life. You come in, you leave it all at the door and you enjoy the client that you're doing at the time. You learn lots of new things. You talk about current events and what they're doing. It's great. It'd be your dream job, John, chatting all day,
Starting point is 00:15:52 not just between six and nine. You could just keep chatting all day. All the banter you could have. We'll come home and go, oh, I've talked to this person, they're doing it. You must get some great goss, though. Oh, we've heard some amazing things that cannot be repeated, of course. Oh, repeat one.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Without name. No name. No name. No names. No names. Mate, they're not like you. They don't gossipy like you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Have you heard about affairs? Yes. Oh, okay. Let's categorise it. Affairs, maybe people who aren't happy with their jobs and their bosses. Maybe radio hosts who aren't happy with their co-hosts. I told you that in confidence. I've had people crying in the chair about their jobs
Starting point is 00:16:39 and not wanting to go back after lunch. You're almost like a counsellor as well, you know, for a lot of people. You have pretty deep conversations, which is awesome that you do that and sort of help people through things. Although you could be getting paid a lot more if you were a professional therapist.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Definitely, but you wouldn't have as much fun, hey? And would you look as fabulous when you walked out? No, that's right. You probably wouldn't. You'd probably not look as fabulous, yeah? Hey, good on you, Rebecca. Well, you keep up the good work. What a great attitude you have.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Cool. Thanks, guys. Awesome. Leticia, with us from Tauranga. You're in the service sector, are you, Leticia? What do you do? Yes. So I am a carer.
Starting point is 00:17:20 So I go around talking to Adelaide and their homes. And yes, sometimes we're with them for just a half an hour. Sometimes we're with them for like two hours. So we do have to talk a lot. Now, do you like it, though? Do you like it? Because the old people, they can really get on some tangents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Honestly, I really do like it. We've got some lovely people we talk to every day. Oh, it's lovely. These people are sweet. Someone's texting saying, I'm a checkout supervisor at the supermarket. I talk to people all day, five days a week. Love it.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Just love it. Good on you, Leticia. Cam with us from Palmerston North. Welcome. Welcome. Thank you for having me this lovely morning. Anytime, Cameron. Anytime.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We'll have you on the show anytime. In fact, the more talking you can do and the less for us, the better. You got a question, though? I do. I do. Do you boys listen to the radio on the way home? I'm guessing it's talkback because you're old, but I just want to kind of clarify, do you listen to the radio on the way home?
Starting point is 00:18:22 Because you're on radio like most of the morning, and so I just want to kind of go, do you listen to the radio on the way home? Because you're on radio like most of the morning. And so I just want to kind of go, do you listen to the radio at home? That's a good question. Actually, I do listen. I listen all the time. Every time I'm in the car, I'm flicking stations. I'm wanting to hear what other people are doing. I'm listening to other things.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I'm listening to podcasts. Jono? I drive in deathly silence. This is odd. It's odd. I do. I listen to the radio in my head. Yeah, that's the truth.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But to be honest, Cam, it's out of pure anxiety. Because if I listen to other radio shows and I hear them doing good stuff, I'm like, oh, we're not, you know, we've got to go and do some more. You know, it gets me all fired up. So I'm like, the more ignorant, blissfully ignorant I am about what we do and whatever this thing is three hours a day, the better. Okay. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I think you're giving Mike Hosking too much credit. Love your work, Cammy. Go and have a great day in Palmy. You too, boys. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. We've got a wet weather around this morning, particularly down the lower north part of the North Island. So take care if you're driving around.
Starting point is 00:19:28 But, Jono, you know me. I like to get stuff done. I like to tick stuff off my list. How long is your list at the moment that you have? Because you do have a list. I do have a list. I've got notes and I've got notebooks and I've got all sorts. I try and condense it down and stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I just like getting stuff. It's satisfying for me to get stuff. You like to write a list and then knock it off. But my approach, my wife's always a bit reckless. Like I just want to get what's on the list. I'm just going to get it done. And she's a lot more measured. She does research.
Starting point is 00:19:54 She will look into things. I can see that. I remember one morning, last year, a fateful morning, where producer Bee Hump said, oh, the studio's a bit messy. And you got it in your head that you were like, yes, it is. You were chucking out everything throwing out the microphones oh yeah this computer needs to go once I get into yeah it's like yeah so the same way it comes with buying something for the house like as soon as my wife and I decide we need something I'm like all right
Starting point is 00:20:16 cool it's on the list let's do it and she's like we like to research she does all the sensible things researching and all that's why we ended up with a mickey mouse clock in the lounge because I bought it I like that's cool we need a new a Mickey Mouse clock in the lounge, because I bought it. That's cool, we need a new clock. I like that one. She's like, can't put that in the lounge. But it's in the lounge, it's been there for a couple of years. I can understand your wife's apprehension for buying items for the household, because you
Starting point is 00:20:35 do have a penchant for wanting to dress the place like a nine-year-old boy's bedroom. You've got your Funko Pop figurines, you've got little all sorts. I know. NBA players on posters. Well this time, so a few days ago we decided the kids needed
Starting point is 00:20:52 like a mirror in their room each because you know, the bathroom's getting quite congested everyone, you know, so it's like well maybe having a mirror in their room would be a good idea. The bathroom means it's like the southern motorway, eh? It does. It really does, yeah. Everyone's trying to get in there and everyone's taking a bit longer and stuff. So we're like, maybe if they've got a mirror in their room, we can do it.
Starting point is 00:21:10 They can do the mirror-based activities. So I found one online. I thought it was sweet. I showed it to my wife going, yeah, what do you think of that? She was kind of like, yeah, yeah, look good. She thought I was showing her for research purposes. But hey, I don't research at all. So I just was like, great. She gave me a sort of that looks all right ordered it and then later on
Starting point is 00:21:28 she's like we really should have more looks for those mirrors i'm like well too late it's already off my list i've ordered it and she's like can i have a look at what you ordered i was like well no because that's no because we're gonna look at it i've ordered it i paid for it's coming i mean can they see themselves in the reflection? Yes, boom, it's doing the job of a mirror. So she wanted to have a look at what I'd ordered because it hadn't arrived yet. I'm like, well, that's going to do no good because you're just going to fight it. You're going to have faults with it.
Starting point is 00:21:53 It's going to be wrong. Can't do anything about it. This conversation is not going to win for either of us. And then it arrived. The courier delivered it and I was nervous getting the mirrors, not just because mirrors were going to give me bad luck in my relationship, but also if I broke them as well, getting them out of the box, put them up in the kid's room.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I didn't put them against the wall and they were great. She was like, these are great. These are great. And I had a win and I wanted to revel in it, but I was like, do I just play it cool? Because I haven't had a win too often. No, I'm with you. It's not often the dad in the household has a day call win. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:24 You can tell she wanted to find faults in it, but she was like, these are good, and they were a good price too. They were actually quite reasonable. Yeah, it's a win. It's a win for Mirrors. It's a win for Ben. I feel your pain because what I wanted to do was buy a Kim Jong-un wall hanging. It was Kim Jong-un wall hanging, and I was going to put it in the lounge, and it was Kim Jong-un, cudd. It was Kim Jong-un, wall hanging. And I was going to put it in the lounge,
Starting point is 00:22:45 and it was Kim Jong-un, cuddly little dictator, smiling and laughing, and there's a big nuclear ship underneath him, and it said, live, laugh, love. Great message, but maybe not with Kim Jong-un. Yeah, and I got it from a website that sells socks that say, I left these on your mum's bedroom floor. You know, one of those sort of websites.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And so I bought it at home. I bought it at home, the Kim Jong-un wallet. Yeah, you bought it, didn't you? I did. And it turns out my wife doesn't want a dictator on a flag, a lycra flag hanging off the wall. Does she not even want to live life love? No.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So it just sits in my bedroom drawer. We should give it away tomorrow. All right. Yeah, it sits in my, I've had to fold it up, keep it away. It's a hidden secret. No one knows what's going on in there,
Starting point is 00:23:31 like North Korea. Some of you will get your house raided at some stage and be like, oh, okay, he's really. Back off, this guy's dangerous.

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