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The Hits, with the Jono and Ben podcast.
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Kia ora, welcome. This is the Jono and Ben podcast in association, proudly, brought to you by Challenge Petrol Service Stations.
Who's that dinging?
Oh, it's a text coming through.
Talk to me, read it. Okay? It dings, you read it.
Oh, no.
You know the rules of the podcast.
Okay, where are we here? only read it if it's not
too sensitive i'm gonna make you read out oh no okay yeah it's to do with that that my kids are
staying over at my grandparents because we've got a birthday party this weekend that we're going to
say and what do they see what are the grandparents said oh no just working on man is just like is
that well is that what the plan is my wife is What are you going to say back? Yeah, that's probably, yeah. And so she will now talk to your mother-in-law, Joyce?
Yeah.
And Joyce will, do you think, will happily oblige to that?
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
That's the first option.
And then we'll, you know.
And what's your backup?
Because every parent has a backup option that you have to call off the bench.
Who's your backup?
Oh, we have a few backups and stuff.
But, you know, Joyce is good.
I mean, now the kids, they love having sleepovers at mates' places as well, too.
But you can't initiate a sleepover.
Well, it is tougher.
Sometimes you're like, hey.
Yeah, it's a tougher one to front foot normally, isn't it?
Sorry, are you asking me to – are you burdening your children on me for the evening next year?
Yeah.
It is a tougher one to play because then you have to reciprocate the sleepover.
Yeah, which. Yeah. It is a tough one to play because then you have to reciprocate the sleepover. Yeah, which, you know, it's just fine.
The other thing I've found too with sleepovers,
because we're both in that beautiful wheelhouse of kids,
as soon as, like, sometimes out of the school gate,
they've been masterminding a sleepover in the playground.
And it's, oh, can Harriet and Sarah and Dad, like, 29 kids come for a sleepover.
Yeah, yeah.
And you always have to be the, oh, no, sorry, just not tonight.
Yeah.
You know?
And they're like, why?
We're not, you know, yeah.
We did a triple header last week.
Oh.
Triple header sleepover.
Same people.
Yeah.
Three days, in the morning, first thing they wake up in the morning,
they're like, can we go another night?
Oh, another night.
Yeah.
Because this thing, when we push one more thing, it's like,
oh, they need to go in the morning.
Oh, what about just lunch?
Oh, what about just, you know, think, oh, what about dinner?
They get to dinner.
I'm like, oh, I know what's happening.
We're going for night two.
We're going for night two.
I haven't done the double yet.
Yeah, they do a good game.
They play a smart game, these kids.
Yeah, I'm like, now, all right, guys, wrap it up.
There we go.
Today on the podcast, had a fun show today.
Second show back after a few days off.
Ben, you, speaking of your kids you blamed
uh you blamed you not maybe standing up as the person you should have on a child well yeah like
my child she seen a blamed herself and i went yeah i went along with it maybe in hindsight i
probably don't feel bad how many sleepovers you've accommodated yeah yeah true actually
don't feel bad at all. And something you created too,
Ben,
something in the past,
years gone by,
how many years ago?
Oh,
this would have been like 20 years ago,
yeah.
Has found a new lease on life.
Yeah.
A cool lease on life too,
like a retro.
Yeah,
probably 20 years ago.
Yeah,
20 years ago.
It's been,
something that Ben created
has been remixed,
remastered,
and. Cut up and destroyed by DJ Savir, no. It's been something that Ben created has been remixed, remastered.
Cut up and destroyed by DJ Sevier?
No.
Major Flavors out now. That's right.
That's right.
It's a niche reference that you get.
It was a great album.
It was awesome.
Shout out to Phil too.
Yeah, he's awesome.
Wonderful guy.
But no, it has been remixed, remastered, and it's pretty cool.
Check it out on the podcast.
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Thanks for hanging out with us on New Zealand's Breakfast,
the middle of school holidays.
And I mentioned it before, my son Oscar,
he's obsessed with basketball.
His dream is to go to a college in America.
Oh, nice.
He's only a few years away.
And to play, obviously, not just to go and visit.
I went to Harvard.
I actually went to Harvard and just visited,
but now I can say I went to Harvard just for that reason. Oh, yeah. I went to Harvard. I actually went to Harvard and just visited, but now I can say I went to Harvard just for that reason.
I went to Harvard.
So we've got a basketball hoop, but it's old.
It's been around for probably seven or eight years,
this basketball hoop.
It's rusty.
It's a safety hazard.
It could go at any moment, like Joe Biden.
You never know when this thing's going to end.
And every week or so for the last two years, go at any moment like joe biden um you never know when this thing's gonna end and every
every week or so for the last two years he's like can i please get a new basketball hoop can i please
birthdays come they're expensive too and very hard to put together this is my thing this is my thing
i don't want to get the basketball hoop because I can't face putting together
a basketball hoop.
It is the most difficult construction.
Yeah.
Like the one I've put together
is kind of on a,
it's like the Leaning Tower of Pisa.
And you're like,
how's this thing still standing?
Floods and all sorts.
It's stuck through the elements.
Yeah.
But yeah,
if you ever want to test a relationship,
you can do the flat pack stuff.
You know,
that really puts some high pressure hot sauce on a couple.
But I tell you what, assemble a basketball hoop together.
Take it to the next level.
Yeah, I know.
I have had to do a basketball hoop before, and I was no good at it.
It was very complicated.
I've got sort of PTAD, post-traumatic assembly disorder, from the last one.
So that's why I don't want to get a new one for the fear of having to try
and put together a basketball hoop.
So I have said to him, it's great that you practice on an old,
rusty hoop that's no good and is kind of on a lean because then when you get
into the gymnasium on the proper hoops, you're going to get the ball in 100%
of the time.
Because it's a better hoop.
You practice on something that's difficult.
I buy it.
I'm buying your lie.
Thank you.
It just came out.
There might be some truth to it, to be honest.
There might be.
And he came home from training that day.
He's like, you know what?
Your theory on training on a crappy hoop and going on to the good one,
it's 100% true.
I was getting all the shots, it's 100% true.
I was getting all the shots and I was like, thank God.
The lie has been told so much to the point.
The propaganda has been forced.
Kind of like what they're telling the people in North Korea,
whatever you're saying to them over there.
Say it enough.
Say it consistently.
They start to believe it.
Well, there you go.
So, I mean, you can't be the first parent out there that is told.
I mean, it's part of parenting, particularly at that age,
you know, where kids, they don't know any better.
No, it's fun to lie to them.
Oh, yeah, we used to, with the fridge beeping,
when the fridge beeped, we used to go,
oh, it's going to explode, you need to shut the fridge door,
you know, because it would beep.
And Indy, with like an action hero,
she would be like running towards the fridge,
it's going to explode, everyone.
And we just like, we didn't tell her otherwise, because it was quite fun watching her just rush towards the fridge.
Causes a lot of issues later in life, in adult life.
Yeah, it probably does, actually.
We're scarring a lot of childhoods with these lies.
But for the meantime, they're fun.
Oh, mum did it to me.
Yeah.
Oh, they could deal with it with therapy.
Multiple times, you know.
So what are you telling?
What lies are you telling your kids?
0800 The Hits, 4487 the best lies next.
The hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.
What lies have you told your kids?
Or maybe you were told as a kid.
We want to know this morning.
I've been lying about a rusty old basketball hoop that my son wants to replace.
Just saying it's better to train on a rusty old run down one.
Because even when you get on the proper ones, you're going to be.
I call myself Libron James. So many lies have been told. but it's been a slam dunk so far you bought it you bought
i'm buying into it it seems to make sense from what we're yeah yeah and it's purely out of fear
of having to assemble a 1300 piece basketball set again now which you've been through did you do
that yourself no no no i looked at i tried to then i got a mate over who's actually good with that
made a couple cups of tea you know morale chatted to him probably was annoying while he was trying
to focus you know that's the thing yeah good on you you are good for morale all right let's get
to the phones uh lies you're telling your kids maria you're on from auckland morena
hi morning um we um we told our that Mr. Whippy only plays his music
when he's run out of ice cream.
Oh, that's a classic, but it's a good one.
But we've said it so many times on radio
that surely the kids are starting to cotton on.
We've come clean to it.
They still call for it.
They're still suckers.
The logic behind it makes no sense.
Why is Mr. Whippy?
Maybe like a siren. I've got to get back, guys. I'm out of ice cream. I've got to get back. Why is Mr. Whippy? Maybe like a siren.
I've got to get back, guys.
I'm out of ice cream.
I've got to get back.
Let me through.
Maybe, you know.
Maybe.
But you're right.
Still, it doesn't stack up for me.
It's like, guys, guys.
Guys, guess what?
I've run out of ice cream, but I won't make any noise when I've got ice cream.
No.
Yeah.
Hey, it still works.
They believe it.
Oh, good.
I like it.
Good on you, Marie.
You're going to have a great Tuesday.
You too.
Thanks, guys. We'll go to Hamilton. Darlene, get you on. The lies you. I like it. Good on you, Marie. You're going to have a great Tuesday. You too. Thanks, guys.
We'll go to Hamilton.
Darlene, get you on.
The lies you're telling your kids.
Welcome.
Hi.
How are you doing?
We're doing well, mate.
Lovely to have you on.
What lies are you spinning?
Can I just lead with, I love chocolate and I'm not a sharer.
Okay.
Yep.
All right.
Fair enough.
When my kids were little, I were little, any chocolate I had,
I used to tell them that it had alcohol in it and that they weren't allowed it.
Great play.
That's a good play.
Yeah.
Have they gotten on now?
No.
No, they still haven't.
Mind you, they're getting close to the age where they will be able to eat all of them.
One day they're going to be pretty filthy on you, darling.
Yeah, yeah.
Enjoy that chocolate while it lasts, all right?
Yeah, will do.
Good on you.
Have a great day in Hamilton.
Pairoa.
I went through Pairoa the other day.
What a beautiful part of New Zealand, Tanya.
Hi.
How are you?
She's not going to back that up.
She's like, you don't have to live here, mate.
It's raining.
Oh, well, what lies are you telling your kids there, Tanya?
For about 10 years, I've told my
son that if his room's not clean
that he can't live with us because
his older sibling, Benjamin, has
already been taken because of it.
Oh, so you're like a kidnap block.
Oh, jeez, it's got to be quite a dark.
So he believes he has
an older brother who's been taken away.
Yeah, he said to go live with another family because his room couldn't be clean.
How deep have you gone into this role play?
To the point, it's been about 10 years.
He's coming up 13 now.
I'm traumatised that I'm not there.
I feel like anyway.
Do you have like a room for
Benjamin? Oh jeez.
No, no, no, because
he's gone mate. He's gone, he's gone.
He had a room, he didn't tidy it, he's gone.
Oh jeez, alright.
So a couple of years ago
he started to not believe it, so a Christmas
present showed up from Benjamin.
Wow,
you've got to deal with, anyway. That is, I tell you what, you've got to deal with... That's a mental torment.
That is...
I'll tell you what,
you've got to tidy your room at Tanya's house
or you're cut from the team.
Love it.
Well, you, Benjamin, and your family,
have a great day.
Thanks.
Jeez, all right.
Maybe you could turn up one day and be like,
it's me, Benjamin.
Come back.
The older brother.
Jeez, I don't want to be involved in that.
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It is the second week of school holidays,
but unfair because it's a teacher's only day for most kids,
I think, on Monday and then Anzac Day next week.
So they kick back in Wednesday.
It just really keeps rolling on.
What a dream run for kids, right?
A huge run, yeah.
It's what you don't appreciate when you are experiencing that as a child.
No.
Going to bed at 7.30.
What I wouldn't give to get to bed at 7.30.
Holidays nine months of the year.
The teachers must be loving it.
They get all this time off.
Let's not get the teachers.
The teachers need to pay them less.
They have so many holidays.
No, not at all.
Geez.
We're working hard, the teachers.
No, you do pay them more.
And now actually something that I got,
we were talking yesterday about all the activities
I ended up doing for the school holidays with my kids.
And one of them, we went to-
An activity per day.
Sometimes two activities crammed into one day.
I'd like to know I've done something.
I've done something, you know,
that's cool, we did something on that day
and we went to a weirdo workshop.
You've been there before.
It's in the city. Probably, yeah before it's in in the city probably yeah it's in the uh sky tower the
problem is though when you do so many activities you forget you forget what activities you've done
lessen the activities and then they'll stand out more yeah well we took the kids along to
where the workshops and it's really incredible it's from the you know the same people that make
all the amazing props and costumes for movies or hollywood movies and they've made a sort of
from where to workshop yeah otherwise it'd be a huge, huge copyright case
if it was some sort of rogue organization.
They've made this interactive display.
There's all these things.
So you go through these different sort of,
they're made sort of movies,
whether they're action movies or like space movies.
There's a horror movie sort of section.
They've made this sort of fictitious horror movie.
And there's a part in the tour where they're like,
hey, you can have two options here.
You can go through.
It's kind of like this fake slaughterhouse sort of thing
with all this meat carcasses and stuff
and it gets quite tight and narrow and it's dark
and there's a fright.
It's the Mad Butcher's,
Mad Butcher Dreams Heaven is like.
Yeah, exactly.
It gets quite dark, it goes narrow
and there's a bit of a fright.
There's a jump scare. They tell you all this at the start or you can take the not the
nice pathway through the sort of gnomes and the sort of fairies and stuff like that and so my
daughter indy the youngest is like i'd like to take the gnome option and look at gnome option
and my wife for some reason i don't want my wife went i'll take indy you go with sienna and i know
why because my wife's
the brave one and we talked about this when someone we thought someone was on the property
that day she's out there with she's got a phone out she's all you know i'm inside going i don't
know what to do and so i was like well you're sending me through to the dark you're like i'm
the gnomes and fairies guy yeah i'm not the slaughterhouse guy you're the slaughterhouse
but sienna my daughter the oldest daughter she's like i i think i want to do it. I'm like, you sure you want to do it?
Thinking, hoping shed back out.
She's like, no, no, I want to do it.
This is when you need to plant a seed of doubt in her mind.
Yeah.
So I went, okay, well, how bad can it be?
Because, you know, obviously it's all make-believe.
It's all movies.
But we got through and we were leading the charge of the people.
And I'm like, oh, that's not good.
You don't want to be mid-pack, don't you?
You don't want to be front or back.
Walking through, it's getting dark. It's getting narrow. It's getting things. of the people and I'm like oh that's not good you don't want to be mid-packed you don't want to be front or back walking through
it's getting dark
it's getting narrow
it's getting things
and I'm like
you know
I looked at her
I was like
you okay
and she's like
yep
walked a bit further
I'm like
I'm starting to get
a little freaked out
I don't know how
she's feeling
so I asked her
and she's like
I think
I'm sorry
I think I want to go back
great
and I'm like
great
in my head
I'm like great
but I'm like
you sure
if that's
oh yeah oh I know okay come on. But I'm like, you sure? If that's on, yeah.
Oh, I know.
Okay, come on then.
I went back and afterwards, you know, she was so apologetic.
She was like, I'm so sorry.
I'm sorry you didn't get to go through that.
And I didn't have the heart to tell her.
I didn't want to go through it.
No, you don't have to tell her.
I don't have to?
No.
But I felt bad.
I felt bad that it was all, I was scared.
I was the most scared out of anyone and I didn't want to do it.
But I feel like now she feels like
she's taken this away from me
no it's good
keep it up
keep up appearances
keep your cred up
but I don't have any cred
hey
don't have any cred
well just try and build some mate
so here's the starting line
okay
okay
so what
okay
jeez
pull yourself together
this is when
credibility
day one happens
with being a voice
okay
we keep up this rule.
All right, so I really wanted to do it.
I was happy to do it, and she let me down.
This is why you have kids.
You can blame them for stuff.
The other night I blamed the kids for leaving the light on,
and it was me.
And I did it for no other reason
apart from the fact that they just knew I could wield that power.
And they were like, no, it wasn't.
It was me.
I was like, no, it wasn't.
You know?
This is the advantage of just being older, mate.
We don't have many joys in life, but you do.
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Jono and Ben's name game with Dole Bananas.
Now, it is International Banana Day tomorrow.
We've teamed up with Dole to give you the chance to win cash every morning.
So, it's a wee fun little game.
It's the name game.
Now, you call us on 800thethits,
we find someone with a name
because everyone's got a name
and then we throw it out there,
see if we can get within 60 seconds
a bunch of people,
two other people with the same name
and then they'll banana split the cash.
And today's amount is 300 bucks
so that means $100 each
if we get three of them on the phone.
We're reading an ad for Dole Banana Day
and New Zealand per capita
consumes more bananas annually.
We love breaking down stuff per capita.
More bananas annually than any
other country in the world.
I was driving to work this morning thinking,
not everyone eats bananas. That means
some of you are eating
over 18kgs is the average.
They would average that out with the population.
I've probably done it. Yeah, you're probably doing 40, mate.
Yeah. Probably doing 40, 50 kgs a day.
I'm doing my stuff. I'm doing my stuff
to help out, to help get us in the stats,
mate. Yeah, alright. It's his commitment.
Who have we got on the phone?
We'll get to Palmerston North. Who's here?
It's Bill, is it?
Bill Cosby.
Okay, can we find two other Bill Cosby's?
No, let's not find a Cosby's.
It's your competition.
No, it's only on the first name,
and I'm going to ignore the last name, all right?
Yeah, Billy.
See you, Tania.
Oh, there you are, Tania.
Well played, well played, but hey.
Well played.
Sabotage this competition.
Hey, it's a Bill.
That's the last we'll hear of Bill.
Is Bill your actual name?
No, no, Justin.
Okay, so now we need to pivot.
We need to pivot.
And you've rattled him, Justin.
I was so happy about this competition too.
Now everyone's going to find out. Okay, so two other Justins. Justin? Yeah, Brad, I was so happy about this competition too. Now I'm like,
oh.
Now everyone's
going to find out,
man.
Okay,
so two other Justins.
Okay,
and I'll enter in the hits
with 60 seconds
on the clock.
If your name is Justin,
give us a call right now
and you can,
if we get three,
you'll split 300 bucks
or 100 bucks each.
What are you doing
in Palmerston North,
Justo?
I'm a builder.
Oh,
nice.
We love to tell you
who loves Palmerston North. Me, I did'm a builder. Oh, nice. We love to tell you who loves Palmerston North.
Me, I did.
I did up until 10 seconds ago.
0800, that's the telephone number.
Have we got two other Justins?
There is $300 in the prize pool waiting for Justins.
It'll be split three ways, banana split three ways.
Let's go to line four.
Have we got a Justin on the phone, producer B-Humps?
He's looking panicked.
He's looking stressed.
We've got a full board of calls, Justin.
Oh, where did you get?
Okay, let's get some people.
Let's go to line four.
Who's on the phone?
Justin.
Oh, Justin.
Okay, that's great.
Now, can we get another one?
Oh, no, we're under the hits.
Can we?
Oh, there's a lot of people.
How many seconds left there, producer Joel?
Ah, 13 seconds.
13 seconds.
Let's go a line five.
Have we got a third, Justin?
Justin?
Justin?
You there?
Justin?
Justin?
Justin?
Say something.
Nelson Justin.
Yes.
He was there.
He was there.
I think we should give it.
Who are these people screaming down the phone at me? Yeah, yeah. I had no idea what was going on. Sorry. Yeah, no. Well, there's I think we should give it. Who are these people screaming down the phone at me?
I had no idea what was going on, sorry.
There's three Justins on the phone.
Why don't you all talk, get to know each other.
Hey guys, how we doing?
Well done. You guys have got $100
each and it was, to
use a pun, just in time.
Right at the end there you came
through, so well done, $100 each.
Cool.
Thanks for that.
Well done.
Thank you all very much for listening.
Go and have a wonderful Tuesday.
Have a great one.
Thank you.
You too.
It'll be back again tomorrow with a brand new name
and hopefully a slightly less controversial tomorrow.
Well, speaking of controversial,
I did something highly controversial yesterday afternoon.
Many people aren't doing it now. I'll tell you
what it is next. It is the hits. You got Jono
and Ben?
The hits.
The Jono and Ben podcast.
A tropical disturbance is what they're calling
it. It's coming our way. It means some
bad weather is going to be here later in the week
affecting the Lower North Island
and the South Island as well. So it's just
what we need. But I guess we are now technically heading in towards winter,
whereas before summer was just a shocker, wasn't it?
Well, it's nice to have a tropical disturbance in winter.
You know, let's look at the positive silver lining here.
I had a wonderful morning this morning, Ben.
We've mentioned a couple of times we park.
We park a couple of blocks away at the casino, the 24-hour casino.
Love the characters you bump into at the casino.
It's always quite an interesting little experience around 5 o'clock in the morning.
I'll tell you what.
Us, with the people around the casino, those are our people.
Those are our people.
John, I've been.
It's like, where were you guys when the TV show ended?
We'd still be charging away.
12 years deep if these people were still watching.
Anyway, this morning I was on the phone to producer Humphrey.
I was in the foyer and there was a lady of the evening getting changed.
Okay, just outside the foyer.
And I was on the phone to producer B. Humphrey.
She said, have you got 10?
Hi, it's you.
First question, have you got 10 bucks?
And I didn't.
I don't carry, you know.
Yeah, no cash.
If possible, you've got facilities.
Oh, it's probably upstairs there would be cash out.
You can tap and go.
You know, there's options.
And then she said, tell Ben I love him.
You heard that through the phone.
Tell Ben I love him.
Me?
You.
Oh, me.
Oh, that's good.
No, I don't know why.
I'm a hang, you know.
In a work capacity.
But she was very, very thankful for everything you've done.
That's good.
Well, actually, something that I have done many years ago,
we've talked about this a couple of times,
Novus Windscreens, the company, the jingle,
the Novus jingle was something that I was part of creating and singing on,
and it's probably the only ad when I write ads that's still around today.
Oh, Novus?
Yeah, oh, Novus, show us your crack.
We probably don't need it because you would have heard it many, many times.
Say the oh, Novus thing.
Oh, Novus, yeah. It's the oh, Novus. Yeah, Ah, Novus, Shows Your Crack. We probably don't need it because you would have heard it many, many times. Say the Ah, Novus thing. Ah, Novus.
It's the Ah, Novus guy.
But it's just been remixed.
Now, producer Joel found this on a much cooler station, a radio station, right?
It's a bit of a crime, this song there.
So you think of the Novus jingle.
Well, how about it gets remixed?
Oh, I love it.
It gets a second life know second life yeah bloody kate bush
running up the hill when stranger things did it this could be your oh no this could be the second
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Going on the dance.
It does, you're right.
Good on you, congratulations.
I had nothing to do with that version of it, but hey, it's cool.
I'm flattered by that.
That's pretty awesome.
Thank you, Georgie Fim.
That's good.
Find me some cred for us.
Oh, no, that's what I needed.
I needed some cred.
Although I've obviously got a Sky City, haven't I?
You've got cred with the street workers,
cred on the other dance station.
Oh, mate, see what I mean. Our cool points
have shot through the roof on the hits this morning.
Next, there was an unexpected encounter
for a guy in England, much like yours,
Giorno, but a bit of a surprising encounter.
It happened early in the morning on the UK.
This is actually a very, very cool story.
It's next on the hits.