Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - Teacher tries to cancel boss using AI

Episode Date: May 19, 2024

Welcome to the untamed realm of the world's Wild Wild Web!  On this edition we discuss a teacher who used AI to try duplicate his bosses voice to get him fired!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and we get to talk about it for a few moments. I brought this one to the table because I know how obsessed John always is with AI in all things. It's my sweet spot. You're really obsessed by it, aren't you? Boy, oh yeah it's the more you yeah no i had a conversation over the weekend because i know you know there's a lot of people quite fearful about it yeah and i don't just understand the fear because no one knows what's

going on it keeps getting smarter and smarter but i talked to a guy over the weekend and he worked in it and he maybe feel a little better about it in his opinion again this is just his opinion he thought the uh the artificial intelligence he thought the intelligent part is not that good at the moment he reckons it's not quite there but it will get better but he thinks that in the future it'll be he's like when the dishwasher first came out everyone probably went oh my god it will take jobs of people washing dishes but he's like people now use their time to do other things you know that's taking care of the dishwasher i know but dishwashing is one thing so that's why he was like there will be a lot of it that will be used just to help

people a lot you know and you'll spend your time on other stuff a lot more not to say it won't take away jobs and that's a bit scary but that's but that was his thought that it'll actually be used to help you it's not like no one works in a restaurant anymore because he's a dishwasher my thing is we're too slow to react so like i feel just like with vaping and everything that comes onto the market and it's not until everyone's like finding out that it's really bad for you then we put in the yeah well hang on oh hang on no kids are doing oh and then you try and put laws in place i'm just worried that artificial intelligence is going to get too smart and then we're going to be like, oh, hang on, pump the brakes. It's like, well, it's too late.

Yeah, interesting. It's too late. Yeah, it's frightening, isn't it? Because you go, it's moving at a rapid pace. That horse is already bolted, isn't it? Like the stuff that it can do now. And there's a rumour that, you know, tech companies actually have, you know, far more advanced tech except they have to slowly drip feed it

out into society or else we'll combust it. So the stuff they're doing behind the scenes, mate. You don't get rid of your life. As you said before, there was within two minutes of you talking to someone the other day who was doing makeup. You were already talking. We're like, oh, John is talking about AI. To someone he's just met.

I'm just mouthing, I'm sorry to this person. They were going really early too. Yeah, they were just wide-eyed, like nodding. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Success for that. Not what, yeah, just impressed by it. Like, it's the most impressive thing. And scared.

Yeah. Rightly so. The jobs are worried. But, you know, like Ben says, we will evolve. The scary point is when they start to outthink us. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm worried about they can have a 60 minute conversation amongst two robots

in about 3 seconds so information that would take us an hour to go back and forth on in a conversation they do that in 3 seconds it's amazing how quick it is if you've ever used that chat GPT you write something and then you're like make it funnier or put more things and it's amazing how quickly it just spits out revisions. It's like, wow, that's quick.

So we'll learn and we'll get a whole lot better too, won't it? Do you know, yeah, just so a side note, fun thing I learned Chat GPT can do is if you type in like, instead of going to Google or whatever, you're like, find me an easy Hollandaise sauce recipe. And it just like brings up a recipe. Yeah. Or you're like, make me a recipe for something

using this ingredient and it just immediately prints up your recipe i find it like a more advanced google yeah yeah gpt why don't we do this as a segment where people tell us their ingredients on the radio what they've got and we tell them what they can make for dinner yeah gpt yeah dinner yeah yeah. Works better writing down. So you're like, okay, wait, I've got it in the fridge. All I've got is this. Yeah. That's fun.

Let's do it tomorrow. Write me a recipe with these three ingredients. We'll do it tomorrow. Amazing. Done. Anyway, back to this story. Already we're finding new uses for it. We're back on board.

Now we're scared of it. Now we're back on board. Back on board. We're finding fun use and we're there. This happened in Baltimore. So a high school teacher uh he is he's been arrested he is in trouble jono they've found out and he's been arrested because he tried to get his high school principal so his boss he was a teacher

tried to get the principal fired by using ai to duplicate his voice saying racist and anti-semitic things about teachers and students. They believed it initially and they went into a deep dive when people were like, this doesn't sound like him at all. And then they did the investigation and found out the recording wasn't authentic. He'd used AI to replicate his boss's

voice. That is impressive. You can stitch anyone up. But also I find that on the other hand, you know how they put famous people's faces on adult actors and things like that? And it's AI and then the celebrity goes, oh, it's AI. But even if you did a video, it could be like, bloody AI, mate. Stitcher.

It's the ultimate excuse now. I was only this morning that I was fooled. I thought there was a live action Frozen had been come out. I thought there was a trailer for it and Emilia Clarke was going to be Elsa. That's right. It looked pretty legit, didn't it? Yeah, I made the trailer using AI. She looked great as Elsa.

She'd be a good Elsa, wouldn't she? Yeah. Yeah. But it was completely made up. Your kids have really kind of, they haven't gone down their Frozen path, eh? No. Frozen, I've said it it before I'll say it again Frozen sucks

the last time you said it I was like that story sucks you cut him deep give me Big Red any day that's a great movie or Luca what's the issue

with Frozen it's just it's really it has like that really it starts off real serious like the parents die yeah some of those movies

do start quite serious I mean Up's another one that starts right oh shit there's a death in the first I know I mean, Up's another one that starts right, whoa, shit, there's a death in the first. I know, I feel like there's more darkness than light than there is in Frozen.

Animated deaths really hit hard though, don't they? They do, I feel like that. You know, even like, you watch those movies like Bambi and things like that. I have watched Bambi once,

never again. Yeah, it's true. I only saw it when I was little. What happened to Bambi? Hunting trip, was it? No, it was Bambi's mum. Got shot. Yeah, it was hunters, yeah.

Hunting trip, yeah. Even Lion King. Oh, yeah, the Mufasa time. Yeah, there's a few. I mean, it happens in movies, but at the same time, it's like, whew. And also, like, Elsa's, you know. Mufasa should land on her feet. She's a bit whingy.

Cats land on their feet, so that's the problem with that one, right? Yeah, that doesn't. What are you saying? Elsa's whingy? Yeah, like, I know she's going through a tough time and stuff, but she spends the whole time... Yeah, but how does Anna remain upbeat? Yeah, but Anna, though.

Anna, my buddy Hans. I know. She was quick to jump into that. Bloody lovers at open door sandwich, weren't you? Yeah. Her and Hans. Yeah, that was quick. It was a bit too quick.

And Hans, he was a bit naughty, wasn't he? Yeah, he was. He was up to no good. Yeah. He was a bit too quick And Hans He was a bit naughty Wasn't he Yeah he was He was up to no good Yeah He was nice at the beginning Hans Yeah he seemed like a dreamboat But yeah

Yeah There's good movies If you could marry A Disney prince Who would you marry Aladdin Oh Aladdin Oh wow

Not even having to think About that one No Well Aladdin was put up Have you seen The live action Aladdin Aladdin never wore a shirt Underneath the waistcoat And for good reason Looked good Hot I'm not even having to think about that one. Have you seen the live action Aladdin? Aladdin never wore a shirt underneath the waistcoat, and for good reason.

Looked good, hot, you know. It was animated nipples. Yeah. No, I don't know if he has nipples. Wait. Did he have animated nipples? I don't think he did. Maybe they weren't allowed.

Well, we can do some research on the Wild Wild Web. Wait, I'm looking at images of Aladdin. What other options have you got? I'm okay. Nope, no nipples Can confirm We're going to take a quick break From the wild world web We will be back after this

Welcome back I mean get married Or a princess It's up to you Why I chose Aladdin Okay okay Do you want me to pick a second one Oh that's alright

I'm just trying to think What other princes are there. No, you got... A lot of them did this. It's questionable stuff, too, like kissing people when they're asleep. There was Prince Philip. Yeah, yeah. Non-consensual.

Yeah. But then he wanted to wake her up, too, obviously. Prince Charming. Oh, he was Cinderella, wasn't he? So he was all right. He went looking for a girl with probably just a size 8 shoe. Yeah. I feel like there was too many girls

after him and there was like um what i could never understand about that storyline was there a huge plot hole that well surely there's more people the same same size in the kingdom oh yeah yeah they should have set up this year like huge feet at the start of the war she was pulling that or something you know yeah back to cleaning yeah oh yeah in the end it would have been like of course up and she had huge feet at the start or she was pulling that or something. Or a big foot. Back to cleaning. In the end it would have been like, oh, of course, she's got shoes that no one else has. Size 17 sort of thing, yeah.

Erica's hot from The Little Mermaid. We're talking animated hotties. Yeah, he's real hot too. He's problematic because he fell in love with the chick that doesn't talk. He liked it that way. I like her, she didn't say much. Johnny Smith, couldn't get a more boring accountant name because he fell in love with the chick that doesn't talk. Oh, yeah. He liked it that way. Yeah. I like her.

She didn't say much. Johnny Smith. Couldn't get a more boring accountant name, but John's Pocahontas. Oh, yeah. Flynn Rider. Tangled. He's quite our case.

Yes. Tangled's a good movie. Yeah, yeah. Enjoy that. Okay, what about princesses? All right, Megan, who are you going to marry there? Excuse me, that's your terrain. Oh, it could be anyone's terrain. You just don't want to get cancelled.

2024. I do like Belle. I think Belle's awesome because she's cool. I like Belle. That's a good choice. She's my favourite princess. And to be honest, if she can fall in love with a beast, it's not all about looks. She's a lot of better person.

She likes reading and she's about brains. Find the good in a lot of people. So yeah, I like Belle. Do you know when Emma Watson did that movie, she refused to wear a corset. She was like, I'm only going to do this if I can have like a natural looking body. You know, she's my girl. Okay. Yeah, that's some good ones.

I'm going to go Moana. Oh yeah? Yeah. Oh yeah. Do some, she can do some pretty cool stuff with the ocean. She's going to be chief of a village. Like her own wave pool, basically the ocean, isn't it? The cool thing about Moana was, and I'm sorry to break it,

but there was no love story within the movie, which I thought was quite cool. Maybe she's not looking for love. That's what I thought was cool, because a lot of these ones are like, oh, you've got to find a girl or a guy or whatever. She don't need no man. It was really cool.

To watch it with the young kids, I was like, oh, that's cool. My daughter's. It wasn't about a love interest. It was about her for a family. So I was like, that was kind my daughter it wasn't about a love interest it was about her for a family so that was kind of refreshing particularly because

a lot of these movies go oh you've got to marry the prince or you've got to do the thing and I know a lot of them came out in the 1950s or whatever

and you'd expect that Maui would come along and have to like save her and help her but she helped Maui exactly okay that was cool

here's a fun little game there are 13 official Disney princesses. Shut your laptops. Oh, because official. Yep. Okay. Because Belle's not a princess, right? I think she'd be.

Well, she's on the official list. Okay. So you've got one. Okay. Okay. So we'll go Snow White. Yep. Cinderella.

Yep. There's three. Jasmine. Jasmine. Yep. She's on there. Sleeping Beauty. Aurora. No. Oh, yeah. Aurora. Aurora. Sleeping. Yep, she's on there. Sleeping Beauty. Aurora.

No. Aurora. Aurora, Sleeping Beauty. Oh, is that her name? Yeah, Aurora is her name. What about... Tiana. Tiana's there.

Yep, six. What's the one I'm thinking of? Snow White. We did Snow White. That's Aurora. This one was very long hair. Oh, Rapunzel. Oh, Rapunzel.

Seven. Okay. Elsa and Anna, are they in the list or not? No, they're not there. Okay. They're not in the... I think I'm done. I'm stuck.

There's got to be... Okay, there's more. Mulan's not a princess, is she? Mulan's in there. Okay, Mulan's in there. Trying to think of Disney movies now. Pocahontas? Pocahontas is not in there.

Okay. I don't know why it's not on the official list. We're naming ones that aren't on the official list. Snow White. Can you give us any hints towards other movies? Brave? Brave in there? Is that Merida?

Yeah, Merida's Brave. She's there. Yeah, there's nine. How many is there? Thirteen. Thirteen. I feel like we've named thirteen, but some are not on the official list.'s there. Yeah, there's nine. How many is there? 13. 13. I feel like we've named 13, but some are not on the official list. We said Moana, right?

Yeah. No, no, you didn't say Moana. Oh, Moana. Yeah. Okay, well, there's 10. And we named some other ones, like Elsa, Anna, not on the list. Oh, did we say the Little Mermaid? Oh, yeah, Ariel.

Ariel. Yeah. She'll be on the list. Is she on there? Yeah, she'll have to be. Ariel, yeah, she's on the list. Okay, 11. Yeah.

So we've got two more to go, have we? Yeah. Princess. T on the list. Is she on there? Yeah, she's on there. Ariel, yeah, she's on there. 11? Yeah. So we've got two more to go, have we? Yeah. Princess. Tinkerbell's not a princess. Which one do I think? Other Disney movies. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. Is it Jasmine?

Jasmine. Jasmine. Oh, yeah, Jasmine. Yes, it's Jasmine. You go. Jasmine and We're one away Raya What's Raya from?

That's recent Raya Yeah What's Raya from? It's Yeah Yeah Raya It was like a movie Recently

But then there's Some other ones It says It says what are Elsa and Anna Oh Raya and the Last Dragon Yeah Last Dragon I haven't seen that

Yeah it's good Yeah Here we go. What are official Disney princesses? An official Disney princess is a female character whom Disney has put on the official list as part of the official franchise. Who are two princesses not authorized by Disney?

An example would be... Elsa and Anna? Yeah. When we meet them, they are both princesses of Arendelle. Even so, they are not part of The Disney Princess franchise Bullshit Instead they are part of The Frozen franchise

That's weird Your theory eh We've talked about this before The Frozen is Called Frozen because of The rumours that Walt Walt

Frozes Well he froze himself eh Crone First guy to Chronetically frozen First guy to introduce The ice bath Walt Disney

Wim Hof method He was ahead of his time The rumours are that Disney's on ice But they don't Disney on ice, that's the whole thing isn't it But they said he's not It's not true but it's a wonderful rumour Maybe that's where Disney on ice came from

We've got to get Disney on ice We've got to get them frozen All of these things that when they google an association with disney it doesn't come up with him being frozen yeah yeah disney on ice that's another one smoke screen you're right you're right they're amazing does you know what why do we want to put the princesses on ice i don't know yeah put some ice skates on them yeah but how do we make them all join and cross paths it'll be some weird storyline yeah that's not fun have you been to one of those with the kids no it's nice it's fun cold that's cold and it's been to one of those with the kids no it's fun

that's cold and it's impressive i want to i'll wait till they're at the same time you you want them to kind of fall every now and again just you do you know you want them to pass over yeah but they don't they're incredible you know but you're like just to kind of come on like singing right yeah they're kind of yeah a lot of them in costume there are people that are actual like you without the cop we're not without the cost without the huge mammoth heads and mascot costumes. It would be hard. I'd be concentrating on skating, not like... It's pretty impressive.

They know what they're doing, Disney, don't they? They do. They do. They do. So where do we start? We always like to know where do we start, where do we finish? We started with a Baltimore teacher trying to do his principal with AI. And then we ended with a baltimore teacher trying to oh yeah do is uh with ai and then we ended with uh disney princesses a rundown of the official disney princess who not who knew over

like a 40 minute conversation we could go from that to that but that's what happens in the in the wild wild web we'll be back again tomorrow with more inane babble with the Wild Wild Web. Two, two, two. Shut up. Gå in. Thank you.