Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - There are only five real jobs...
Episode Date: May 8, 2024Welcome to the untamed realm of the world's Wild Wild Web! On this edition we learn there are only five real jobs! is your job one?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Today on the Wild Wild Web, why you might not have a real job.
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No, you're right.
One of the pros of podcasting, isn't it?
Listen any time of the night.
What's the latest you've podcasted in the evening? I was probably going any time of the night. Have you ever, what's the latest
you've podcasted
into the evening?
I was probably going
to the gym at night.
My wife,
like,
sometimes go to bed
with an audible book
with ear pods on.
She'll listen to that.
Continues just reading
in her ears
when she falls asleep.
She always says,
I've read two books.
I was like,
you haven't read two books.
You've had them read to you.
Yeah.
You were asleep
for five hours
that's what I need to do
she does it when
she's walking around
she'll be doing stuff
around the house
and then I'll be like
and I'll be like
oh she's got to
put her ear pods in
you can't read a book
while doing other things
but you can have it
read to you
she loves it
yeah
she's a genius
she loves reading
but now you just
don't have time
to sit down and do it
so you can actually
have a book
while you kind of
go around
great way to block out
Ben going
just saying stuff
that doesn't
no real words
no
she's like well
how am I supposed to
listen to proper
written words
got your book in again
I get frustrated
but anyway
got your book in again
is that like an
old married couple thing
I'm just talking about
something and then
I'm like what's that?
Oh you've got your book in again
Doesn't even make grammatical sense
Well today this is
An interview with
Charles Barkley, Ben you'll know he's a former NBA player
Now a commentator isn't he?
Yeah he's great, analyst of the game
Phoenix Suns I remember he played for
Number 34 Charles Barkley
Legend of the game.
He was being interviewed, and here's a theory
that there are only five real jobs in the world.
And I don't want to break your heart.
What we're doing right now is not one of them.
I can imagine it would be in the top 500 real jobs in the world.
No.
Okay, so have a listen to this.
Don't look for the most money in the world.
Don't look for the most money. Don't look for Elon Musk ad.
Sorry.
Saying that backstage, you said that there are only
five real jobs in the world.
Yeah, teacher, fireman, policeman, doctor,
somebody who's in the armed service.
Everybody else will just shut the hell up and enjoy life.
You know?
Don't take yourself so serious.
Like... You know, people talk about all these jocks.
I say, jocks don't have bad days.
When you're making $25 million a year, you might be in last place,
but it ain't that bad.
What a great way to look at life.
Only five real jobs, and he's probably summed up the real jobs.
So what did he say?
He was teacher?
Farmer Doctor
Fire person was it
Fire person
Or I guess
And armed services
And armed services
And to be fair
None of those
I would want to do
Because they're too stressful
It's too much for me
So he's probably right
I'm trying to think of
Other jobs that you like
I mean there's a lot of
Builders
Builders are essential
Yeah that's a worthy job
Yeah
You're right
That's a really worthy job
Yeah Charles
Add six to that Pl a worthy job. Yeah. You're right, that's a really worthy job. Yeah, Charles, let's add six to that.
Plumbing.
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
Like trades.
Yeah, trades.
You put them on a lot of trades.
Yeah, that's essential.
Yeah.
Fashion.
That's not essential.
That's part of the arts.
What about your hair?
It's not essential, I guess.
No.
But these are the things, I guess, that people want and make.
They're great, you know, rewarding because people love them.
But you're right, it's probably not.
He's dead right.
Everyone else should just calm down and enjoy life.
And that's a great way to look at life.
Those are, I mean, Amanda, your wife, she's a teacher.
She's a teacher, yeah.
That's why she listens to books in her ears.
She listens to books in her ears, yeah.
Always learning and teaching.
That is a job that is grossly underpaid.
Yeah.
You feel like it's thankless, I imagine, because the kids aren't thanking you.
No.
Generally just being dicks.
A lot of the time the teachers dip into their very small salaries and provide tools for the classroom.
Yeah.
You know?
That's because they just love.
Just want to do a good job.
Yeah.
And it's, yeah, I mean, it's rewarding, but at the same time, well, I'm saying.
How?
Yeah. Well, I guess it's rewarding because you are teaching you know kids
and you can see the growth for kids and you can see kids blossom they're doing god's work i just
think that's like so i just end up yelling at kids they are dealing with a lot of stuff too
yeah oh geez and even at a younger and younger age sometimes i'm like whoa you know like yeah
having to deal with a lot of that stuff as well.
You're like, oh, jeez, I wouldn't have thought these things would be happening for years.
Yeah.
But I imagine all the people that do those vocations,
there's a certain level or a certain amount of it is,
I like doing this job because I'm really contributing to society here.
Yeah.
You know, that would be part of the fulfillment of doing those roles.
Making a difference.
Yeah. We don't know what that's like. No, we don't.
No, I mean, yeah.
We're not saying it to be modest or anything.
It's not a job. It's a fun job,
you know, but...
We were part of the essential services
during lockdown, which we were like,
how is this? And they were like,
please don't say it publicly, because we want
the radio to keep going. And I guess in a way it is communication.
Did you ever get pulled over by a cop during that time
and show your information?
No, I have my letter and stuff,
but I don't think I ever got pulled over.
Because I did and the cop was like,
hmm.
Even they were like,
should you, is this?
Yeah.
But you were like,
you were giving information.
That was the biggest thing
that radio was giving information through that time
and everything was changing
and the news and stuff.
I mean, you could have just said Newstalk ZB is the only station doing that.
Yeah, I was like, no one's coming to the house.
And no one else is doing that.
But we were doing it.
Serious info.
We were doing it, you know.
Yeah.
Oh, we took it.
And I tell you what, it was a joy to be able to come into an office and do your job, you know.
And then I'd get home and then poor Jen's been out with the kids all day teaching them and yeah yeah i that was a god's i don't know how i would have coped if we didn't
get to like leave the house and come into work yeah we're very fortunate very lucky and it wasn't
like everyone got to you know got to work um in the radio industry like we were in a little i mean
you were working zm at the time yeah and so there was a small what happened there you had a little bubble
in terms of the bubble
no it was you on that show
that's for a podcast
for another time
we'll do that
in another episode
okay
I was just wondering
I didn't know what happened
yeah yeah
you do know what happened
yeah yeah
you're not in that bubble
anymore at the moment
no that bubble's been burst
you're in our bubble now
so yeah
but yes you would
you'd come in
there was like four of us
there was only four of us
on the show
you know at the time
you know with the producers
and us
and that was it
there was no people
in the office
for sales job
even the bosses
and stuff
they couldn't come in
so it wasn't like
everyone on radio
get back to work
no
also weren't you new
hadn't you just moved
so you'd gone to
a completely new job
essentially
and you're like
oh
we hadn't met anyone
no
you just started a job
yeah you're right you came into work and it was like there's no one works here and then, oh, there's someone here. We hadn't met anyone, no. We just started a job. Yeah, you're right.
You came into work and it was like,
there's no one works here.
And then eventually you realise
there's a lot of people in this building.
Because we walked past you,
but we weren't allowed to interact with you.
No.
So we could see that you were here,
but we weren't allowed to come over and be like, hey.
We politely waved.
Yeah, that's it.
It was a weird time.
I even looked out there this morning
when I was grabbing something
and we had the John Owen Bend face masks we'd made.
You know, remember the face masks?
People were, you know, like things like that because they were hard to get to.
Dr. Ashley Bloomfield, you couldn't get a bigger celebrity in New Zealand at the time.
He put on a mask of ours.
You know, we made some with our branding on it and stuff.
You used to walk around with a mask in your pocket.
Now you're like, oh, I don't know.
What a weird, I knew we'd look back on it one day and be like, this is weird.
Oh, driving down the motor, even in the moment, I was like driving on a motorway with no vehicles on it.
Yeah.
Like an apocalypse.
I'm going to admit that I got my phone out and took a picture of it,
driving down the motorway, because there was no one.
I was like, I'm not going to crash into anyone.
It's weird to go.
And it was so weird.
It's not that long ago, but how much has changed.
But when you're in that moment, you know, people are like,
will we ever go to the movies again? we ever go to a concert again well yeah well how
quickly we will go back to you know like you know it's like but for a while there we'll maybe we'll
never do these things again just gonna take a quick little break from the wild world web we'll
be back very shortly hello welcome back you were like oh my god asanto's got covered it was like a
weird and all and now we've all had it and then God, so-and-so's got COVID. It was like a weird anomaly.
And now we've all had it.
And then you're like, oh, so-and-so's got COVID.
I was in a place that they had COVID later.
Someone went in there later.
But you're like, well, you weren't there at the time.
Why was I getting worried?
Yeah, I know.
It's amazing how they can put fear into people.
Yeah.
Isn't it?
They use us, the media.
I reckon they're going to have to wait at least 100, 150 years to do another one of those because no one's going to buy into it now.
Like a lockdown.
Everyone who's on planet Earth who experienced that needs to die
for them to be able to pull off another one of those
and people actually adhere to the rules.
But when you think about it, big cities like London
and all these big cities were completely locked down as well.
That's insane. Although there were places that that weren't producer Taylor was based in the Gold
Coast at the time with Marcello the Warriors were over there she was like never locked down once
the Goldie was immune the Goldie just kept charging yeah incredible yeah some places just
kind of plowed on I think with various degrees of success, some good and some, fortunately, some lives
were lost, which you've got to think that, you know,
it's really sad.
But yeah, but interesting, I feel like you're right, no one would
do that again now, really. And then
those people who camped outside Parliament
with the anti-vaxxers,
just yesterday, one of the major pharmaceuticals
has had to pull their vaccine back
out of the market because it has serious side effects.
And then these people were protesting outside Parliament and parliament i'm like look at you weirdos
rolling around in your feces and stuff like they had a point which vaccine was it it was one that
the uh i think boris johnson was very uh pro at the time he was going this is a great there was
something uh we should actually look it up if we're talking not the one we had no it wasn't
the pfizer one as far as i know um i think and it's
also the latest version of astrazeneca yeah pulls its covid vaccine from the european market so it's
no longer you can get it over there so yeah really yeah really interesting time looking back and what
you what we've learned from that and what we haven't learned is yeah yeah it had uh it had
some effects on people uh and it could raise blood clots.
Sorry.
They suspended the vaccine use after unusual rare blood clots were being
detected in a small number of immunised people.
That women take all the time.
Why do we have to come back to that, mate?
Just a side effect of the pill.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
But it was
Yeah wild time
Wild wild time
Yeah
And
Would you
Would you
Okay so they go
Okay we're gonna
There's another COVID outbreak
Let's say this bloody bird flu
Which is weirdly being transmitted
Through cows
Kicks off
What are you doing?
What are you doing
If they're like
We're gonna have to do
We're gonna have to lock down.
Well,
I mean,
you say that no one will do it again,
but if people start dying in huge numbers,
then I think I would probably stay home.
And then if you're instructed by the law and the businesses and stuff like that,
but I imagine there'll be a lot more people that,
you know,
you always hear those stories.
You go,
that house is real lax and they're doing this thing and they're not,
you know,
and we were all such nerds knocking on our neighbours
and they took a trip to Queenstown.
They had a street party.
Remember people having neighbour driveways at the end of the day?
And they went to the thing and they didn't even get COVID
and there were news articles and stuff.
Oh, that poor Wanaka couple.
Yeah, I know.
And they were just, yeah.
Jeez, we hunted them down with pitchforks.
Yeah, there was a lot of that stuff that the fear and and
anger and stuff yeah is that going to be up to the individual maybe horrible for businesses as well
too you know through that whole thing you know particularly when there was other cities and
places opening up and they wanted to open up it was you know and they're losing income and yeah
horrible horrible times yeah after having a cafe during covert i can tell you it wasn't fun yeah
well what were you doing?
Contactless?
Yeah.
Well, in level four, you'd just shut.
Shouldn't do that for a while.
You were saying all your food.
Yeah, so you'd get, was it like 24 hours warning or a couple of days warning for a proper lockdown?
So you'd have to close, but you have thousands of dollars worth of food in any sort of establishment
that you just, what are you going to do with it?
It's going to go off. Exp do with it? It's going to go
off. It's going to expire. So we just had to
give it away to people. Well, you
can see how people did turn on Aunty
Cindy, can't you? But also
what was she supposed to do?
Well, she was only doing the best
she could do with the information that she was being handed.
It happened before, right? No, they were navigating
their way through as best
they thought. They thought, yeah, yeah, they thought.
But also.
Turns out we started thinking some other stuff.
I just feel like it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Because if we'd not locked down and people had died, it would have been on her too.
Yeah.
A wild time.
Trump, I hate to say it.
He was like, he had the plow on strategy, didn't he?
Yeah, but how did that look for New York?
Do you remember that? Do you remember but how did that look for New York? Do you remember that?
Do you remember seeing all those body bags in New York?
Yeah, that's the sad thing when you have that.
Yeah, I mean, that didn't go well.
No.
A different time.
A different time.
Hopefully one that we'll never get to experience again in our lifetimes.
I wouldn't say so.
Yeah.
No.
It's uprising.
You know that movie Contagion with Gwyneth Paltrow?
Everyone was watching that during the pandemic.
Shit, that hit different.
It was like such an entertaining movie.
And then when we're in COVID, you're like, oh, no, I don't like this so much.
Nah, it doesn't feel good to watch this movie.
It doesn't take much to crumble the world, does it?
Well, that was the thing.
It was like one bat bit a pig or something in that movie.
And then the whole world's like, yeah something like that and then they ate the pig
and she caught some weird disease and that's how it kicked off yeah yeah okay and who knows how
this one started there were some theories yeah it's all wild stuff they said to that whole period
wasn't there how does the bird flu get to the cow for the latest one? I don't know.
A bird could have bitten a cow.
Yeah.
Magpie could have bitten a cow.
Stranger things have happened.
Anyway, there we go.
There's some reflections of the important jobs out there
and then a bit of a review of COVID,
a bit of a post-analysis there from all of us.
What a weird time that was.
And that was a podcast.
Well, thank you for listening.