Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - What We Have Been Saying Incorrectly The Whole Time

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

Welcome to the untamed realm of the world's Wild Wild Web!  Today we embark on a journey of discovery! From how to spell "calendar" to exploring commonly mispronounced words... See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Wild Wild Web We've never called it anything else Ben Boyce, Megan Pappas, we are back for a Friday This is local time You might be listening to this on a Sunday You can listen to it anytime you want really can't you? It's the joy of podcasting For a Friday, this is local time. You might be listening to this on a Sunday. You can listen to it any time you want, really, can't you? It's the joy of podcasting.

I always find it weird when people say they listen to it to go to sleep. Like us yelling in your ear holes. Yeah. I mean, it's something, isn't it? It's kind of an audio version of just watching TV to go to sleep, I guess. That's true. There was a period there where my wife just watched. I had the TV on all night.

All night. She'd watch, like, she'd start watching. I think I subliminally digested things like Keeping Up With The Kardashians. Right. Never, my eyes were never open for it, but I felt like I knew what had happened. I wonder if you do retain the information just by the senses. Kind of working hard.

Although sometimes, some people probably do, and other people probably just shut off everything. People don't wake up sometimes. Yeah. And today, I was just having to spell the word calendar, and it's a word that I've never been able to nail. Megan, you then came in. You came in, you said, I can spell. Cal-en-da.

A-E-A. It's probably the- C-A-L, and I always chuck an A in. It's not an A. E. E. C-A-L-E-N-D-E-A. It's probably the... C-A-L. And I always chuck an A in. It's not an A. E. E. C-A-L-E-N-D-E-R. A-E-A.

Calenda. A-E-A. But it's... Yeah, it does feel like some people looking online spell it with an A as well. And then sometimes... Calenda. It's a calenda. Yeah.

No one's spelling it Calenda. Well, I do. And I always get it wrong. Yeah. And is there a D-A-R at the end? Can you do one with a D-A-R at the end? No one spells spelling it calendar. Well, I do. And I always get it wrong. Yeah. Is there a D-A-R at the end? Can you do one with a D-A-R at the end? No one spells it calendar. Look, it's coming up with you've spelled it wrong.

Okay. All right. Sorry. There's a lot of verse calendar versus calendars in there as well. And there's E-R at the end or A-R at the end. And then there's also a C-A-L-E, C-A-L-A. Yeah. My thing is.

One way. If you get the gist of what someone's trying to explain, you're like, oh, I get what they're meaning there. Who cares about a couple of... There are things that people do get wound up about, though, don't they? And sometimes you're like, oh, it just becomes... I get wound up way too much about spelling and grammar and English. Yeah.

How do you go with producer Taylor saying, How does that sit with you? I love Taylor so I let it go. But I'm like, oh. She's like, that's what we say

over in Aussie and they do. They say Aksk. Put the K before the S. Well, I'm going to say here, according to this website, calendar and calendar

are both acceptable spellings. Great. So there you go for organising days, months, examples. The internet has just literally said it,

man. On this website, people confuse. What website is it? set it, man. On this website, people confused. What website is it? I don't know. Refrasally. It looks a whole lot of, I don't know. Refrasally.

Refrasally. Is it Oxford? No. It's all about getting your wording right. That's what it says from keywords to paragraphs. So there you go. It's a website set up for people who get words slightly wrong. And you want to change it.

Yeah, but it does, yeah. You're right. I'm with you, Jono. themselves feel better And you want to change it Yeah But it does Yeah You're right I'm with you Jono If people know what you mean Then it's fine I'm not going to take you down Especially now in tech

My dad will always get wound up When I always say Oh we went down to something We went down there And he's like Up It's up Geographically it's up

Oh yeah that's so annoying But you just say It's like Oh we're going down the movies We're going down the road We're going down You know I wouldn't even think about it

Oh we're heading down to You know Whanganare And he's like It oh, we're going down the movies, we're going down the road, we're going down, you know, I wouldn't even think about it. Oh, we're heading down to, you know, Whanganare. And he's like, it's up, it's up. Yeah, it is up. He's right. What do you get wound up like if it became very suburban, if you're going down to the dairy and he sort of deemed it to be up the road? Oh, no, it's more like towns or cities or something like that. Yeah, I get that.

But I was just, I wasn't even thinking about it geographically. Well, now you should. I try to now But yeah Okay I'm going to play a game with you These are the world's Most commonly misspelt words Megan's actually really good

At spelling We've discovered Well I've discovered Yeah Okay So I'm not very good But yeah So I'll probably

Pass these on to you But anyway Why don't we do this I'll say the word Year ago Megan is ago And I'll tell you who was right Okay Well I'm definitely not going to be right Okay first one is experience Being boys Spell Why don't we do this like this? I'll say the word, you have a go, Megan has a go, and I'll tell you who's right.

Okay, well, I'm definitely not going to be right. Okay, first one is experience. Ben Boyce, spell experience. Wait, is this a commonly misspelt? E-X-P-E-R-I-E-N-C-E, is it? Megan, you spell experience. E-X-P-E-R-I-E-N-C-E. Same as Ben.

Congratulations. Oh, Jesus. Made me really question it for a second there. I should have just said same as Ben. Oh Jesus Made me think Made me really question it I should have just said Same as Ben Okay well done The next word Please spell Entrepreneur

Entrepreneur As in Donald Trump Who was a magnificent Entrepreneur So Can I It's easier to write

I'm going to write I'm not good at that No but I need to like Write it on a piece of paper Entrepreneur E-N-T Yeah no that's where I probably are You can't do entrepreneur

No Not off the top of my head Entrepreneur E-N-T-R-E P-R-E N-E-U-E-R Megan Pappas Congratulations

Well done On to the next round yeah okay that's when I'm hoping that the I start typing it and then

the word goes that's what you meant I'm like yeah perfect tab love it consensus as in

oh god what's the general consensus about us doing a spelling competition for a podcast I'll give it a C or S con C-O-N S-C-I Spelling competition for a podcast. I'll give it a... C or S. Con.

C-O-N-S-C-I-O-N-C-I-O-S. I don't know. Okay, that's... That's not right. I'll take that answer. If you're confident. Put too many letters in there. C-O-N-S-E-N-S-U-S.

Oh, yeah. Okay. No, Bean Boyce actually won that round. Did he? No. C-O-N-S-E-N-S-U-S Oh yeah Okay Ben Boyce actually Won that round Did he? No I was going to say I thought too many I was like

Conscientious He put an X in there Somewhere This is a tough one Okay Conscientious No okay I've had it

Yeah Definitely It's what I spell wrong All the time Because I must write Heaps of emails And it always comes under With a line underneath So definitely I'm not Definitely Is what I spell wrong All the time Because I must write Heaps of emails And it always comes under With a line underneath

So definitely I'm like I keep Definitely wrong If I didn't have this In front of me I wouldn't be able to No

C-O What is it called C-O-N-T-I-E-N-C-I-O-U-S I'll stop you there I'll stop you Wasting your breath Is that right or no? C-O-N

You idiot C-O-N- You idiot. Oh, she inches. C-O-N-S-C-I- I don't mean it. I just wanted to give you grief because I had no idea. Do you know, one of my pet peeves is people say pronounce. It's not pronounce. It's pronounce.

Oh, it's pronunciation. But you'd say pronounce, but it's pronunciation. Oh, pronunciation. So when you write it, it's not pronunciation. There's no O. That drives me nuts when people say pronounce i'm a pronunciation sorry yeah see it's really boring but i'm just such an anglicist nerd i get annoyed uh subtly annoyed but not not fully annoyed but when people they do it in sports they're like oh the bowden barrett's of this world that's just and they

always talk about them and like there's plural. There's more of them. It's like, oh, I'm Bowdoin Barrett. Yeah, right. That kind of winds me up a little bit. Well, there's probably two. But they're talking about the rugby sense. Yeah, the other one's not playing rugby. Oh, you know, the great players like the Dan Carters, the Bowdoin Barrett's of this world.

There's only one. One Bowdoin Barrett plays really good rugby. That I know of. That we're talking about in a sense. But anyway. Or like women's. It's women's. Women's. Oh, yeah. Women and women. that I know of that we're talking about in a sense but anyway or like womens it's womens womens

oh yeah woman and women so womens the women like with an I there's a whole lot of words you've been saying wrong the whole time too

when you hear all sayings you say wrong and you're like oh god I didn't even know it was that balls to the remember balls to the wall

Brad our old boss at the rock love him dearly. But when we were in a busy period in the The Rock radio station, he was like, all right, she's Balls to the Wall.

Is that not the saying? No, it's Buddy Balls to the Floor. Oh no. Oh, that's right. He was. I would say Balls to the Floor. He said Balls to the Floor. Yeah, he would go,

yeah, it's Balls to the Wall is the saying. He would just go, oh, it's Buddy Busy, Buddy Busy is Balls to the Floor. He was putting the nuts on the floor. It was Ball balls to the wall is the saying. He would just go, oh, it's bloody busy, bloody busy, it's balls to the floor. He was putting the nuts on the floor. It was balls to the floor time, okay. If anything, that would drag you back.

But where does the saying balls to the wall come from? Well, we looked into that. Oh, okay. It's an airplane saying where the pilot, on top of the throttle where they launch the plane, they're called balls. So you're putting them towards the wall. Yeah, so it was like balls to the wall was like going forward into the wall and like, yeah, we're going fast.

We're going fast. Balls to the wall. Let's just go. Yeah. We'll take a quick break from the World Wide Web and be back after this. Welcome back. I just learned recently that it's not splitting image of someone

Spitting Which would make more sense because you're splitting them in half Like splitting image, but it's not Spitting Oh, splitting image, yeah That doesn't make any sense Are we still on board with misspelling competition or have we lost interest? Oh, you want to do another one?

Okay, I'll do the most commonly mispronounced Because we're only up to number six there Accommodate Accommodate. Accommodate? Because it's a common misspelt word. Accommodation sometimes, yeah. My dad, he's a school teacher, principal,

so he would always, there was a place, I think in Picton or Blenheim, that we'd always drive past and he'd go, spelt wrong. We'd always pass, every time we got off the ferry. He always go, look at that, that roof, spelt wrong. And I was like, okay, sweet. And I was like, they were missing an M or something or put to me.

I don't know. I was like, all right, good on you, Kev. Apparently the reason it is commonly misspelt is. On my date? Yeah, you got some double letter scenarios which can be left out. So over to you. A-C-C-O-M-O-D-A-T-E. M-M-O.

No, it's double C, double M. A-C-C-O-M-O-D-A-T-E. Right. No, it's double C double M. A com A double C O double M O D A T E. Right. And that's a cool. It's a hard, I'm going to say it's hard when I'm not writing it down, when I'm doing it in my brain. Okay. Probably would have got that one.

That's fine. That's fine. You, whatever makes you sleep right. Is there one more? What, do you want to eat on a winner? No, no, no. Okay. Okay.

Yacht. Well, YA. What is this? There's an H in there There is an H CHT Is that right? Yeah You end on a high

Yuck God you can see how people Have trouble with the English language Sayings are getting wrong too I'm just having a look at that as well There's probably one of these That we've been doing wrong as well too Nip it in the bud

Not nip it in the butt That's probably one I'd probably say nip it in the butt Is it like a rosebud? I think I might be saying Nip it in the bud, not nip it in the butt. That's probably one I'd post. Is it like a rosebud? I think I might be saying nip it in the butt. Yeah, I would be saying it too. It sounds more fun. All intents and purposes,

not all intents and purposes. I never know that one, so I always go all intents and purposes. Yeah. What is it? You say it's to all intents and purposes. Like an intent. So your intent to do something, is it?

Yeah, all important respects. That's what it's saying here. Not all intents and purposes. But it sounds like if you say it fast enough, you're right, Megan. I know. I just run around. All intents and purposes. I couldn't care less.

Not I could care less. Oh, yeah. I couldn't care less. That makes sense. Yeah, we all make that. Dog eat dog world. Not a doggy dog. Doggy dog. Doggy dog world, not a doggy dog world. It's a doggy dog.

It's a doggy dog world. Chest of drawers, not chest of drawers. Yeah, I think everyone knows it's a chest of drawers, wouldn't they? Rather than chest of drawers. Chest of drawers sounds like a great name for someone, eh? Chest of drawers? Yeah. There's a huge number of morons out there.

Well, yeah, some of them you just don't know. Card sharp, not card shark. What? There we go. just don't know card sharp not card shark there we go it's a card shark no well not according to this card sharp not a card shark and what does card sharp insinuate came about as a mishearing of the earlier card sharp it seemed to make sense okay oh my god so card shark, someone's trying to fleece you, right? Yeah, he's a bit of a card shark. And does card shark also mean the same thing? Let's do some like Googling as we go.

But then you'd say a pool shark, right? Yeah, you would. You're right. A card shark. A scapegoat. I'm going to use that at the party. I'm going to this weekend. A scapegoat.

A scapegoat sounds cool. Like a goat. Oh, is it scapegoat? Yeah. I knew that one. A card'm going to this weekend. Escape goat. Escape goat sounds cool. Like a goat. Oh, is it escape goat? Yeah. I knew that one. Card sharp. Here we go. Correct version is card sharp.

This one isn't in the same category as others. We have made the mistake here. Okay, long enough. Oh, so the mistake's been made long enough. Now we just accept it. We just say card shark.

We're all good with that. Oh, so if we screw up badly for long enough, it transitions into the language. It's like when you keep saying I don't want a capital letter and they're like, you do want a the language. It's like when you keep saying, I don't want a capital letter, and they're like,

you do want a capital letter on this? And you're like, no, I don't. And then they're like, all right, whatever, do what you want. That's what they say. Okay, so it's easy to see why someone who cheats at cards might be called a shark. The word sharp is less obviously

connected to the cheating. A sharper is a cheater, a swindler, a rogue, one who lives by his wits. Sounds like an old school name. He was educated to sharp. Card shark came about is a cheater, a swindler, a rogue, one who lives by his wits. And that Sharper was educated to sharp. Card Shark came about mishearing the earlier card sharp. Yeah, and so it seems to make sense and now

people will now say Card Shark. But really, technically, he's a card sharp. That's a good one. Totally going to use that at the party this weekend. Everyone's going to be like, wow, great chat. I'm going to really over-eventicise it. I'll be like, oh, he's a bit of a good one. Totally going to use that at the party this weekend. Everyone's going to be like, wow, great chat. I'm going to really overeventilize it. I'll be like, oh, he's a bit of a card sharp. Anyone's going to go, what? Don't you mean card sharp?

You're like, actually, no. Actually, no, I don't. You've been saying it wrong enough. Taking it back to the 18th century. It's when you start going, oh, that's a funny gif you see. And to people, like, it's gif. You're like, actually, it's gif. People do.

Like, yeah, American pronunciation of stuff is different as well. So people say gif you're like actually it's people do like yeah american like american pronunciation of stuff is different as well so people say jif data well the person who made it said it was a jif and then they were like niche niche is one that no one sees overseas and they're like niche niche hey america they said niche yeah we say niche no but i like to think the americans are wrong in that one yogurt yogurt niche, yogurt. Niche. Mum loves the yogurt. Vitamins and vitamins. Oh, yeah, true. Pirates of the Caribbean or Caribbean.

What is right in that? What, Caribbean or Caribbean? Yeah, or Caribbean. Well, I generally go with what would the people who live there say. Yeah, well, that's true. And that's probably the correct pronunciation. Also, how do I Google it? Caribbean or Caribbean?

Because it's spelled the same. What do they say in the Caribbean about the Caribbean? And then you'd have to go off that one, surely. Wet your appetite is wet. W-H-E-T, your appetite, technically. Another one that we're seeing this happen. What? You mean to go wet your appetite?

W-H-E-T, wet. W-H-E-T, your appetite. It means to sharpen or put a fine point on something. Not wet your appetite. Yeah. Confusing, though. We wet our our whistle but we don't with yeah okay yeah english is so confusing when you break it down like this oh well

i'm just staring at two people looking at them at their laptops do i rip the podcast up if I lost them? What do you do? You can't have lost us a little bit. I know the correct pronunciation. You want to guess Caribbean or Caribbean? Yeah. I want to say Caribbean.

I'll go Caribbean just to mix it up. Ben is right. All right. Caribbean. Caribbean. But I'm sure they do Pirates of the Caribbean. You know, they go in the Caribbean. Pirates of the Caribbean.

I'm just reading these. Okay. So I'm going to end this now because now it's just turned into a podcast of people just reading articles on the internet. Sorry. And you're just sitting there like, guys. It's fine. It's fine.

I'll let you get on with your days. Thank you. I'll let you get on with your day as well. You don't need to listen to this anymore. Have a good weekend. Have a great weekend. It's great stuff. It's a doggy dog world out there, guys.

Whip your whistle.