Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - What Your Pregnancy Cravings Say About You | FULL SHOW

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

On today’s show: (00:00) If your child was named after your pregnancy craving, what would they be called?  (08:10) The debate around Sydney Sweeney’s controversial sports gambling advertisement (18:00) Ben Boyce reveals he’s had a mole removed and now he looks like Nelly... (21:20) Dear Megan: A friend is caught in the middle of a husband’s secret smoking habit  (29:34) Ben wife accidentally sprays lens cleaner on a fresh ear piercing! (32:35) Jono admits to setting off a security alarm while investigating Sephora’s anti-theft tags  (36:00) Netsafe’s Sean Lyons joins us to discuss AI warnings and whether we should actually be worried   Join the Itty Bitty Hitty Committee HERE!Instagram:  @THEHITSBREAKFASTFacebook: The Hits Breakfast with Jono, Ben & Megan See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Jono Ben and Megan podcast, thanks to Dilma. Goodness really does taste great. Dilma, making the world a better tea. But we wanted to play a fun little game with you. And we put it on our Facebook page last night, and over 200 comments have come through. And that was, if your child was named after your craving when you were pregnant, your pregnancy cravings, what would the name of your child be? I was really into marmite, like thick on a cracker.

Little baby marmite? Thick marmite or just marmite? What would you like the name? God, just Marmite, probably. And Kiwi fruit. I don't generally eat kiwi fruit very much. For both your kids or just in one? It was just mainly bastion my first.

The I or I just wanted lots of sugar every time. I wonder why the cravings was Marmite one and then Kiwi fruit the other. Your body needing different things. Yeah, is that what they say? Like, maybe I needed. Lacking yeast and needing some vitamin C. I was going to say vitamin B, but sure. Yes.

Just you need to top up on the old yeast. Yeah. Thick mama, it would be a great stage name too. I could see a DJ called. A rapper. You're right. I know you. Amanda, she had a pension for Gherkins.

Yeah, Gercin juice would have been there was the thing. Less about the pickles and gherkin juice. It was more about that. She was like, what's? Just drinking it from the jar? Yeah, she didn't do it all the time. She just wanted to eat the pickles and the gherkins. And then one time she was like, I don't know what's wrong with me.

I just drunk it from the jar from the fridge. I was like, yeah, probably again, just something that she was crazy. and something that she maybe needed and that's what her body... Has she gone back to Gokin juice? I mean, she loves Girkins and pickles, but I have never seen her drink from the... The jar.

I prefer to put in a cup. You know, like, if she's got to drink straight from... Keep it classy. You know, put it in a cup. Yeah, we'd be I have little baby oranges. I know Jean was just big orange fan. Isn't that orange since? Because I suppose you go so hard on it.

Yeah. Like, do you have you had Vegemite or Marmite since? Yeah, not thick. I needed it thick. Like, I needed to really... Get that. Houston, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, so 800 of the hits. This is the game. If you were to name your children after your pregnancy craving, what would the kids be called? Tessus text, well, message on our Facebook page. She said, my oldest daughter would be radish. Radish, that's an interesting one. Some would be chocolate, youngest daughter would be green olive. Amanda's saying sour cream and apple was for one.

Like together. Yeah, and the twins would be called pickles. Pickle onions and gherkins, so the same sort of vibe as my wife. We spoke to a lady, my wife, who, she was eating dishwashing powder, remember? That's right. Yeah, that's a particular, that's called something where you eat things you shouldn't be eating. Like dirt, a lot of people who eat dirt?

So a little baby Purcell. There's a lot of, you know, those things that you might have thought of for cravings. There's a lot of KFCs coming through, butter chickens coming through, triple cheese burgers coming through. A lot of people, peanut butter and melted cheese on toast. A bit long-witted for a kid's name, says Eve. But that would have been mine. Mind you, 10 years ago, all the celebrities were naming their kids like melted cheese on toast. So there was a, it was on trend.

Marshallows, interesting. Oh, cute. Yeah, marshmallow. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The hits. If your pregnancy cravings was the name of your child, what would the child be called? Paul's texting saying his mums would have been tar seal. He's on.

He's on. He's on, says producer Troy. Don't even you dare you read, Paul's texting. Shut your filthy mouth. Paul, morning to you. Goody, guys. Lovely to have you on. Your mum's craving.

What would it have been? Mum was a weird. She used to suck on charcoal, but she used to go and get tar off the road and suck on that. I don't know. Ta. So you would have been called tar, baby tar. But what was what the tar?

That does not sound healthy. I don't know. What's your head though? Yeah. I'm going to go out of the road and grab tar off the road. She's sort of stuck to her teeth. Yeah. When pregnant people eat non-food items, it's called pika.

It's like a thing. Yeah. That's the detergent and the tar and the... Yeah. And suck it on the charcoal as well there, Paul. That would have been a different name. Paul's good. Paul's good.

Yeah, Paul is good. It does suit your poor. Thanks for your call. Sam, if you were to name your kids after your cravings... Hey, sorry? If you were to name your kids after your pregnancy cravings... Cabat plate. Like, when you go...

You go and get it not wrapped up in like a wrap. Cabab plates. You have all like the salads on your plate. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a cab on rice sort of thing. Hummus. Oh, you're not eating the plate from the cabb shop. No, no, no, no.

Turkish cab. But not rolled up in a wrap. Yeah, I see. Not rolled up in a wrap. No, or it was ham on toast with cucumber. And like, honestly, like quarter of a container of pepper, I swear. and my corners of my mouth would be on fire after it. I was like, why do I do this for myself?

But I love it. But I love it so much. It's like the tar lady too. Michelle. Hello, how are you? We're doing well. You're naming your kids after your pregnancy cravings. Yeah, they would have been called Burger Rings.

Oh, burger rings. Yeah, so many bags of burger rings. That's a bit of a throwback. That felt like it was huge around the 90s, 2000s. Yeah. You can eat them off your fingers too. Did you put them on rings? Yeah, you look like you were like a boss player.

Exactly. Yeah. Michelle, do you still eat burger rings or are you off that you've had enough to last a lifetime? I've never liked burger rings. I only when I was pregnant. Wow, that's interesting. Your body's done that. It's fascinating. A wonderful part of pregnancy, isn't it?

Angela, good morning to you. Good morning. I don't know. Is it a wonderful part of pregnancy? I've never been pregnant. Yeah, but it's very unusual, though, isn't it? It is. Something that you would never eat.

You're really crazy. Hey, what else that's wonderful for radio content. This is part of pregnancy. Angela, morning. Good morning. All right, you name of your kids after what you're craving. It would have been cucumber. Oh, okay.

Would you eat it whole, or do you have to cut it up? Oh, cucumber, cut in half, lava, and salt. Oh, salt. Yeah, absolutely. I ate about 10 a day. A little salty cucumber. That's a lot of cucumbers. I hope it was in winter.

God, you could buy house with that. It was summer. salty cucumbers sound delicious though compared to tar or someone was eating cakes of palm olive soap as well brooke morning to you good morning guys how are we good good good what are you good good good good good good good good fruit juice orange frujubs to the point where my mom thought I had jaundice went to the hospital they did every test you could think of I was in there over two nights couldn't find anything wrong with me until they asked me what I ate and I was eating eight a day and they said, right, you've given yourself food colouring poisoning.

Really? Did you go orange? I went orange. Every part of me, my fingernails, my eyeballs, my skin, my teeth, my gums, everything, orange. Wow. You would look like a cast member of the Jersey Shore or something. For an oompa, either either. How long did it take to, like, get back to normal colour?

about once I started cutting back from eating them because I was so obsessed probably around about three weeks Jesus a long time so did you have to wean yourself off them Yeah pretty much Because I was having one before breakfast One for breakfast one for morning tea One for lunch

One for afternoon tea One for dinner one for dessert And one before I went to bed Fuck that's a lot of fruit Maybe that's Trump's daily raging How he's remained consistently tan like that Did anyone do your friends Were they asking questions?

Like, what's wrong with you? Yeah, but they know me. I'm a bit of an oddball anyway, and they were like, oh, it's just Brooke, don't worry. And I was like, I'm pregnant, guys. Don't judge me. What you want to add on top of the pregnancy is looking orange at the same time? John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast.

The Hats. Okay, we're going to talk about Sydney's Sports Gambling Ad. So she has made an ad for this sports gambling company. that she also has equity in. Oh, does she? And, yeah, the ad has drawn criticism because it shows her posing naked in different sportswear.

You obviously can't see it on the radio, but this is what it sounds like. Thinking of sports? Prove it. Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. And she's wearing sportswear

in different states of undress. And covering herself with, you know, like basketballs and stuff. I see. So, and then just saying the word sports over and over again. She's someone that probably probably polarises people, would it be fair in saying?

You're right. There was another campaign, an ad campaign for jeans that sort of did polarise people as well. So I guess going into it, maybe this was designed to be getting people talking, provocative. Yeah. So female athletes and women in sport have criticised the ad saying it's set them back years. Rather than explain how they feel about it, here is Jocelyn Bartram. She's an Aussie hockey player. I'm not finding it disappointing because it's a female putting her body out there.

I'm finding it disappointing because of the way female sports are being portrayed. And the sexism that's implied throughout the whole ad and the way that it really, for me, brings female, is trying to bring female athletes and female sports right back to the days where we were only known because sex sells. And that's all, that's the only way that we could get attention on any of our sports. And so my outrage comes from feeling like we're being dragged back after working so hard in the past, you know, 20, 30, 40, 50 years to progress how women's sports are viewed by the general public. Okay, let me preface this by saying Sydney Sweeney is not the hill I want to die on, okay?

But I also have an issue with people telling Sydney Sweeney what she can and can't wear because it wasn't that long ago, we're like, my body, my choice. So she can choose to do the ad. She can choose to be in various states of undress. You can also not like it, but I think it goes against everything I believe to chuck all this on Sydney Sweeney when I don't think she is the problem. Well, you did say

Ronda Rousey, UFC fighter Serena Williams. They've both done naked commercials in the past. And I know that because that was Sydney Sweeney's defence. She put up a carousel of lots of sports people, men and women who have posed in different states of undress and I guess the argument is that they are athletes.

But also I think it kind of seems like a bit of a leap to go from Sydney Sweeney posing hot, clearly marketing to younger men to do this gambling website. I didn't get the connection between women's sport and Sydney Sweeney. She looked like she was a model posing in the gear. So I... I get your point.

What this needs is a man's opinion. Well, that's the thing I feel like... Oh, you're a lot of an opinion. Yeah, no, but at the same time, I often feel like, you know, like the people that affects, which is, you know, woman and women in sport and stuff, I want to hear from you, you know, that's why are you on a man's, you know, like it's not the person. Well, and again, this is my issue, is that now we're all the,

it seems to be like women who are fighting. So now we're all fighting each other again. And we're picking on someone who is clearly very attractive. And she posed, like, you know, in various states of undress, but she's allowed to and she's hot. And I also do a sports podcast, talking about, where you get your podcast if you want to go listen to it

What's this a plug for me? Have you done a naked photo shoot for that? But you guys know how hard I grafted to get that out here. That's probably the frustrating thing for a lot of people. I truly believe that's because

I'm a girl and people don't come to me for motorsport and I don't project motorsport and I face some sexism with being a lover of motorsport so I totally get how women aren't taken seriously

and our sport. is not given the attention. It's not given the money. It's not given the praise that it should be. And not the celebration. It deserves, you know, with the amazing female athletes that we do have around the water.

My daughter's been part of a campaign like encouraging, sorry, to interrupt, young people, young girls to stick with sport because most of them drop out by the time they're 16, you know? And boys carry on because they're judged and because they feel like they need to be good and perfect at all these things. So you want young girls and you want young females to, like,

it's a really cool thing they're part of, to go out there and have fun and not being afraid of being. judged. And so I guess that's where this thing is a hot button for some people. But also you're putting too much power on this commercial. Is it really taking women's sports back decades? See, I don't

think so. Because I think women's sports, it can speak for itself nowadays. We know, like the black ferns. We're incredible. In New Zealand, especially we have amazing women's sports. And I don't, I actually didn't associate that with women's sports. Two can be true.

She can be, she can do her thing. We all have her thoughts about that. can be doing this ad and being hot and women can be great at sports. They can both live. I don't think that they need to coincide. And we should stop arguing with each other. Because now women are just

picking on other women again. Ironically, if they'd said nothing about the ad, it probably would have had as much attention. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The Hits. Megan, you're just mentioning about something that's in the news at the moment to do with the actor, Sidney, doing an

ad for a sports betting company. Yeah, so Sydney, Sweeney, it's a sports gambling website, which she also has equity in. So I imagine she knew this is going to happen, and that's only done wonders for the website. Sports gambling's never been better after the sad. Not so much about that, which everyone's talking about. It's the fact that she appears nude in the commercial, and she's got, you know, like basketballs and things cover. covering various bits. It's a sexy ad.

Tasteful, though, with the apparatus placed in the appropriate positions. This is the commercial here. Thinking of sports. Prove it. Sports. Sports. Sports.

Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports. You can't trade this. So there we go. You have to imagine what that ad is doing.

But not much clothing on, and an athlete in Australia has kicked off. Yeah. a lot of athletes, Olympians, a lot of women in sport are not happy with the sexualisation of her in this ad and accusing it of belittling women in sport which they feel that it works so hard to put that behind them and now obviously they feel like that set them back like you say

I didn't take that she was an athlete she looks really like she's a model who's wearing stuff to attract the male gaze which is their target audience for that company, you know? Yeah, I kind of see both sides of the argument and both, I think you said before, can live happily in the world. People can do some sports gambling, and female athletes can keep charging on like the legends they are.

Maggie, your thoughts? A lot of texts come through on 4'4-8-7. Where do you sit on this one, Mags? Hi. Hi. I think if she was a lover of sport and wanted to take those photos and post them on a personal social media page, then go for it.

Like, that's awesome. But she's selling a product. And, yeah, I think the product that she's selling is incredibly toxic. I think so many people, I think, we've built a culture around gambling that it's accepted and it destroys so many lives. And the sporting realm, I mean, I'm a healthy education teacher.

So we have studied this stuff through and through, yeah, the sexualisation of woman through selling a product. I just, yeah, if she's doing it for herself, 100% go for it, but she's not. She's selling a product and it's just sending the wrong message. I feel like, I totally agree with you. I feel like the argument should 100% be around what she's selling. But it kind of isn't. It's around the sexualisation of, um, female athletes and the fact that they feel like they're being set back.

I just like, I don't know, there's so many things at play here, but the whole thing makes me sad that it feels like women are arguing now. Yeah, it's a good call though, Maggie. Kate, good morning. What side of the argument are you on here? Well, I'm with Maggie. I mean, it's like I have issues with the fact that she's promoting gambling, you know, and it's sort of the two other issues aside,

I think that's probably more important. The bigger issue. Yeah, absolutely. That is the bigger issue. Do you know, a couple of us told these guys the other week I reached an absolute benchmark in my social media career where I started getting invites from gambling companies to do some gambling co-labs. And I'm like, she's bloody tempting. It's bloody tempting, guys. I was kind of like, why don't we all agree it's bad?

Let me just get my gambling money and move on. They've got so much money this industry. It's wild. And she has equity in this company. Yeah, I didn't realize that. Yeah, until you said before. Yeah, she's getting paid to do the campaign and paid from the profits as well. Yeah.

It's not great. Well, a lot of texts more with the issue with the gambling and the sexualization. Which I hadn't really thought of until now. John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast. The heads. I think Megan, you're just your thigh mastering right now? Yeah, because I remember that I've got my little thing that you squeeze between your thighs.

Oh, I saw that under the death. It's been under the desk for like six months gathering dust. Is that yours? Is it? Have you mastered the thighs yet? No, I was supposed to do it every day and I just saw it and I was like, I'm going to do it today. But I also remember Ben doesn't like to look at me

in the eye when I'm doing it. Well, I didn't know what's going on. You just looked at me and you're like, I'm thigh mastering today. And I was like, I don't know what that means. Are you flirting with me? Now you know. Clenching her thighs back and forth. Masterful thighs.

Now he's in the studio. Love you. Oh, look, yesterday I had a mole removed on the side of my feet. face kind of towards close to my eye top of the I guess the bridge of the nose yeah bridge of the nose thing yesterday so I've got to wear a plaster at around about eight nine o'clock this morning so now he wore a plaster I didn't even notice a moldier I'd never seen it either no no they got a bit bigger so they think they hope it's all good but you know but they just wanted to remove it so

I didn't that before where they kind of injected I guess is the local is that what it's called made it go numb and then just sort of scraped it away with a scalpel but that just felt like He was lightly, just lightly. You know, once you can't feel anything there, the injection was probably the worst part, to be honest. But it's not so much you can't feel it. It's like right where you would see. It's like the inner corner of your eye.

Did you like see him? No, I just shut my eyes. Oh, yes. I'm not fair. You don't want to be eyes over someone going towards you with a scalpel. Yeah, I know. Things I don't need to see is that while he did this thing. He made a good gag too.

He was like, I was sitting comfortable. Had the thing. He goes, all right, no, I'll just put on more FM. Oh, good one. It was like, that's a good game. On the time, though. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

So, yeah. So I've got to wear this this morning. I thought I'd front foot it on the text before I came into work because you self-conscious where you've got a plaster on your face. You're like, oh, what's he doing? And then if you talk to people, people, you know, they noticed it. And they don't want to bring it up or they do bring it up. Yeah.

So that's what's happened today. I had to burn one off my lip. And so it just came up like a big cold sore. And so everyone's like, oh, right, I got a cold sore. I was like, no, this is, I burned off like a moly thing. And they're like, oh, you sure. Sure, you got the herpes virus. Nothing sexy of the moles, isn't there really?

No. I'm a very molly individual as well. Got to get them checked out every year, honestly. And sunscreen. Slap on the sunscreen, kids. Otherwise, you won't, you know, you won't be looking like Nelly in your 40s. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Yeah, that's probably a result. If you're going out for 12 hours and the wider upper playing cricket all day. You'll be right, burn a layer off. Mum send me out there. as well and then yeah you're right sunscreen's yeah but now of the kids as well they're all worrying about UV and things like that I'm like guys guys we've been through this we know that sunscreen's good

let's not get back to this so they're sun baking and not wearing sunscreen they are wearing sunscreen but they all talk about you know they can talk about some of the UVs high this is good for going out there and you're like it's not good I had a dream a good invention I was trying to I haven't crowd funded it yet I'm too lazy

but it's pill that you take once a year that protects you from the sun but what's the science behind it? Who knows, man? I mean, that's all good in theory. Hey, I've got an idea. A pill that cure is cancer. Yeah, a pill that you just...

Well, people are shelving pentides and they're not asking any questions, so they'll take my sunscreen, pill. John O'Benn and Megan. The podcast. The Hats. Dear Megan, people kindly share their personal issues with Megan, and we savagely open it up for public opinion and debates.

Always anonymously, though, and if you have one, you can slide into our DMs. It can be trivial, it can be serious, whatever is going on in your life that you need help with. Today's Dear Megan reads, I'm good friends with a married couple, and the wife has always said she would never date a smoker, but her husband has secretly smoked throughout their entire relationship, and she has absolutely no clue.

He even snorts Listerine, and now he's started coming to my house to have showers after smoking, so he doesn't smell when he gets home. I'm not stoked that it's gone this far and now I'm keeping his secret It just makes me think if he's been hiding This for years What else is he hiding

And does he lie to me Now I'm at the point of Do I tell his wife or end the friendship Or is that too extreme? So he doesn't want to be in the middle anymore He doesn't know how to get out of it Snorting Listerine is That is wild

That makes the cigarettes the healthiest part of the story, I would imagine. If you're snorting Listerine, that's like... Does that actually do anything? No, I don't... Yeah. And I always thought, like, it's pretty hard to mask it. I would have...

Well, apparently not if you snort Listerine. I guess he's like... He's got a three-step program. He has a dart, has a shower at his friend's house, and waterboards himself with Listerine. Seems to have worked well. How long have they been married? I don't know.

I don't know, but it sounds like it's been going on a while. You guys have got instinct. an intuition she probably knows. Yeah, I reckon she probably would when she did down. Surely. But then she's always said she didn't want to marry a smoker. Maybe she is just not saying anything.

Yeah, like, so... Because it would seep into like, I was a prolific smoker for many years absolutely loved it. It was a fairly fun hobby of mine, but then eventually lung cancer turned you off cigarettes. Yeah. But it would seep into his clothes. Yeah. So he would come home with the musk of...

He'd have to wash all the clothes and stuff. Yeah. Unless he goes to his friend's house, smokes butt naked, has a shower, snorts Listerine, back in the clothes, and away you go. At that point... Smoking outfit. Yeah. At that point, are you like, is this hobby worth it? Oh, yeah. Like, why are you not being honest about it?

And then, because why are you going to all that effort to cover up? Um, so yeah, a lot of people are saying, well, snorting Listerine is pretty hardcore. It sounds like you're, you're hooked. Um, everyone is concerned that he is hiding something else, which is the main reason I guess the friend is like, well... Has you got time to? hide anything else with that routine. That's taking up a lot of extracurricular time. It sounds like he's just got himself

in way too deep. Yeah. And can't get out. The other side of the argument is a lot of people were saying, look, he can do what he wants. He just needs to be honest with her. If he wants to do that, he should be allowed to. Is it a friendship end, though? Would you cut ties with this person? I guess that's what we're asking.

I mean, I wouldn't want any part of that part of things. I'd be like, I don't know if I'd end the friendship. I think... I think, I go, hey, you do what you're doing, but I can't have you coming around and lying or being part of this lie, you know? Yeah, that's probably where it gets icky from a friendship point of view.

You're harboring a fugitives. Yeah. Yeah, and I'd just be like, if she asks me, I'll be honest. Yeah, true. Like, I'm not going to lie to her, and I'm not going to harbour you over here anymore. So what are we to know, 4487 on the text? Well, what should he do? It kind of sounds like morally he's at the end of his tether.

So he's at the point of tell the wife or end the friendship. John O'Ben and Megan The podcast The Hits People write to me With their dilemma And slide into my DMs It's always anonymous

And we try and help them out So this one A guy is friends of the couple And the woman Had always said smoking was a deal breaker For her Her husband is smoking On this line

She's using the friend He's using the friend To go around to his house Have showers He snorts Listerine And he does everything he can To keep it from the wife And the friend is

enough. He doesn't want it on this lie anymore. He's like, I'm at the point of do I tell his wife or do I end the friendship or is that too extreme? Is giving up smoking an option? Has anyone discussed that? Yeah, true. Just, yeah, I mean... Or just being honest, too.

Yeah. If a relationship can't can't survive that, then maybe there's not a point being in the relationship. And also, like the friend said, if he's going to that extreme to lie about smoking, is he an honest person in general? Is he lying about other things? I guess that's why without speaking to this person

that's why he probably hasn't told his wife because he's like if I do this then she's going to be uncertain about other areas of our relationship where he might be absolutely fine but he might not want to open Pandora's box on that one our dear friend Leaf we should just change this segment to

Dear Megan and Leaf phones up with a sensible solution Leaf the calming presence on this radio show Happy New Year to you Happy New Year guys and thank you for having me What do you think? Well, I'll say I know a little bit about addicted behavior.

And I will tell you that it's sad that he doesn't trust her to support him. And he doesn't trust her and she doesn't trust him. And honestly, if I was the friend, I'd just say, mate, we just need a break. Like, I care about you, but I care about you enough to tell you to stop coming over here and sort your shit out. because if he trusts her, then if he really trusts her, then he'll trust to be open with her and be like, I've been struggling with this. And he trusts her to walk him through getting over the smoking or trust her to try and put up with it. But if there's no trust, then, like, imagine the amount of time and energy he is spending, hiding all this from her.

Oh, I tell you what? He's the most showered man in New Zealand. What could he do with all that time? it's like all that energy, all that mental energy trying to hide that from her. Like, he could be just more present in his life if he just, if he was honest. And then at least she knows,

all right, he's going to go out and have a cigarette. And then he's going to swish some listerine around and not have to snort it. Like, have some trust, mate, or move on. The thing is, even if she doesn't, if, big if, doesn't know he's smoking because we think that she would surely smell it,

she probably thinks something else is going on, like women's intuition, she definitely knows that he's doing something. Yeah, I mean, the fact is, once you start lying and deceiving, you're creating a split personality, basically. You're living two lives, and you never know where the lie is and where the truth is in your life. And if he's learning the lie like this and making it a habit, then lying becomes natural. and that's that point where everything starts to unravel. So honestly, you know, the longer he holds out with this behavior, the harder it's going to be in the end. Leif, he's good.

You are so good. What do you do for a job, Leif? I work for the New Zealand Drug Foundation supporting programs for people who are addicted on drugs. Well, Leif, here we go. You are grounded, really smart individual, Leif. We do appreciate your call. And I imagine there's a bit of shame for him, too. He would be ashamed that he is to hide stuff

and smoke and shower at his friends' house. And he can't just give it up. Yeah, so I imagine there's that as well. So what are you saying to this friend? Are you saying end the friendship? Tell the why he now. What are we doing? Well, I don't think he should tell the wife.

I think he should do what Leif said and have a good, honest conversation with the guy. And be like, do you actually want to give up? Because me and your wife could help you, but you need to, you can't come around here anymore, and I think you should be honest. Okay. We've had a text here from an 11-year-old going,

Listerine's not for snorting, it's for gargling. Just to clarify. On behalf of big Listerine, we want to get that information out there as well. Thanks for your texting calls this morning. Dear Megan, might be back next week if someone slides into your DM. Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits.

Over the weekend. I've been hearing about this for a couple of weeks. You've just talking before about having a teenage daughter. Well, there's a place that we're doing like $20 piercings or whatever. My daughters are like on a Sunday they do $20 piercings, and they've been wanting to go along and get some of their. is pierced. And this is a conversation I handed over to my wife because they start talking about helixes and

conch and all sorts of things. I'm like, I don't know. This is not my department. This is a conversation for them. Different parts of the ear. And I have no argument either about, you know, I've had various things, but a piece for radio and TV bits and pieces and other regrettable tattoos.

So I'm like, I'm not the person to get involved in this. Yeah, the worst is you're saying your nipples. Yeah. Yeah, that was, yeah. I had it, probably the shortest ever nipple piercing. a little bit of filming and then I pretty much took it out 10 minutes later and it hurt a lot coming out. It was going to a radio interview.

I don't know if you should have taken it out straight away. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was The Edge. I think I did a couple times. I did one time, went to the Edge Radio station just an interview to plug a TV show and I walked out and being wedged by a strong man and hitting a like a piercing on my nipple. I was like, that wasn't really what I came in to do.

You just meant to plug the show. Yeah. Yeah. They had a whole lot of wacky stuff. Me and Jeremy Corbett, who was plugging John and Ben in seven days at the same time. and they had all these wacky stunts and Jeremy Corbett went, I'm not doing any of that.

But he's like at the older statesman, he's like, there's no way you're pulling my underpants up between my cheeks and piercing my nipples. And so then I took the brunt of it and I came out on there, a little shell shocked. Did you? I think a few people left that radio station, a little shell shocked. Yeah, but over the weekends.

My daughter's, yeah, got a piercing and went out on Saturday. And my wife, while she was in there as well, she was like, oh, you know what, I'm here now. I wanted, she wanted to get something done. Yeah. So they came. home and as part of the aftercare, they have like an antiseptic spray

that they need to spray on as part of it. And then my wife yesterday sends me a text going, I grabbed what I thought was the antiseptic spray this morning. I'd be spraying on my ear, offering it to the girls until they went, a mum, that's the lens bright lens cleaner for like

glasses and laptops and things as well. Which comes in a little spray bottle. A little spray bottle as well. She'd been spraying that into her earlobes. Does she wear gloves? Does she wear She does, yeah, but not, I mean, not to the point where she can't read lens cleaner quite big. I mean, it's not that big. She would have buffed up the piercing quite nicely, though.

It would have been crystal. You're right. The actual, like, the silver or whatever would have looked pretty good. Was it stinging or? Yeah, I think a little bit, but then I guess she probably, oh, that must just be what happens. Part of the process, part of the antiseptic working. Oh, yeah.

I'm like, oh, geez. Did you spray lens cleaner on your nipples after you? No. Oh, my Lord. No, no, I haven't. So, yeah, one of those moments. I'm sure everyone's got those moments where you've misused a product. Well, you've got glasses on.

Have you been around a bit rubbing antiseptic on your lenses? I was so foggy, but also very sterile. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The Hats. So it was in Sephora. I'm sure you get dragged around. The mechas and the Sephora's of the world, Ben. Done my time in those stores.

Many many times. So I like just kind of wandering around, meandering. I sort of let Poppy just my daughter do what she needs to do in those shops. and I noticed at Sephora that on some products they have a rubber band wrapped around the product and on the top is like a little alarm device Oh right, okay And I was just holding up

It was some perfume And I was like, how does this work? How does this alarm work? Now at which point, you know, most responsible adults would go Well, I'm sure it's a great security measure And put the thing back on the shelf Yeah I was like, no, I've got to try this out

It was a packed shop too Sunday And so what I did is I kind of just I was just like pulled the rubber band off a little bit to see what would happen. Oh, right, yeah. Don't do that. Oh, really? And then I'm left holding this like 50-mill perfume with this alarm going on. Is it activated like that?

Yeah, like even if you just try and slide the rubber band on, like it comes off easy enough. But boy, it really draws attention to you. And then at which point, obviously, your staff member comes over. And I'm like, I'm far too old to be in the situation. That's what I'm thinking in my head. And I'm like, I'm sorry, man. I just knocked it. And I could kind of tell in their eyes that they've seen this 100 times before.

I feel like the truth would have been more believable. You're like, I actually was just like pulling this thing to see. To see what it did. And now I found out what it does. Yeah. So hey, well done you guys. That was a great investment from Sephora International Limited. Well, yesterday after the show was telling Megan this story.

And she was like, well, you need to come clean. Just to Dan Megan. You know, the theme of that was come clean, be honest. Yeah. So we phone Sephora. Before a new market, how can I help? Hey, Diva. Hey, how are you?

Good, thank you. How are you? I'm good. Hey, listen, I need to come clean. It's Jono Ben and Megan here from the Hits radio station. I came into your shop yesterday with my daughter. Yes. And in your shop around some products, you've got like, it's almost like a rubber band with a security tag on top. Yeah.

Yeah. I was really intrigued by them. And I was like, I wonder. what these do and because they don't look like they're very effective and then I I tried to pull the rubber band off and then the alarm sounded okay one of your friendly team came up and I might have lied and said oh sorry I accidentally knocked it ah it was it on the perfume yeah uh yeah do you remember the incident I wasn't here actually but that's interesting she heard about it Yeah.

Did you hear about it? No. Oh, that was really good delivery from you. So that was Sephora yesterday. And you know, in a small, this country's too small, Twister Fader got message last night from one of the mothers from the basketball team. She's like, I think you prank called my daughter at Sephora today. Oh, really?

New Zealand's too small. Can't get away with pranking any. What I even prank? And you called her, Diva. That was on Gracie's. That was producer Grace was like as soon as you answered the phone, you'll say, hey Diva. That really got things off to a weird start. I think she liked it.

She was like, hey. So, yeah, don't try and pull the rubber band security tags off at Sephora. They work. They do. I've done God's work for you. John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits.

I don't know if you noticed on your feed over the last week or so. It's been a lot of videos. Former AI employees coming out saying it's the end of the world. I can't work for these companies anymore. We're creating a super species that's going to end humanity. and we've got Sean Lyons from NetSafe on and am I just imagining this or is this a thing at the moment, Sean? Yeah, there is certainly quite a lot of doom and gloom around

and I think that probably always has been to some extent. I heard someone a long time ago saying to me worrying about the problems of AI end in the world is about as important as worrying about overpopulation on Mars. I mean it's definitely a thing that can happen but I think that is changing. I think there are more and more conditions now around. I think we use this technology more and more.

I think it's certainly a time to stop and take to think about how and what's around that. But I don't think it's necessarily a time to say, throw it all out. And suddenly, you know, what was fine two months ago is now the beginning of the end of the world. Well, you used to laugh, you know, I felt like every while ago you were like, oh, you can tell AI, it was six fingers and things and all sorts of, you know. And now it's like, oh, my goodness, it's very hard to. tell what is AI and what's not these days. The technology has moved so fast.

Yeah, and it's very much the nature of the way this technology works, it kind of had to go through that phase. They have to work out whether or not Six Fingers looked better or not, and they decided that it didn't. And so I moved on. Do you think there needs to be some kind of slowdown or regulation put in place? Are we doing enough? I don't think we're doing enough yet, no.

I mean, I think if that was a universal, slowdown and what that slowdown meant was that we got to focus more on on the kind of the safer technology, the guardrails, as some people refer to it, the safety tools, might be how other people see it. If that's what slowdown means, then yes, I think we're there and if everybody's doing that slowdown, then I think that's part of it. I think part of the problem that we're seeing here is this is a gigantically globally competitive race and that means that this is a, you know, companies, but also countries, governments, research, that there is a real sense of race to get to the best.

Like the space race. Yeah, you're right. The space race, but on steroids. Can I ask? Can I ask you like for the average Kiwi, you know, who sometimes, you know, maybe puts a photo of themselves up there and wants to look what they look like in the 80s or puts in and says, oh, can you change his email or things like that into AI? Is that a risk for the average Kiwi?

that sort of information out there? I mean, I think it is possible that there is a chance that we put information like that out on the internet and it then gets used to the course. I mean, let's not be around the bush, the source for all of these models generally is the

internet. That's how they've become so good at what they do. It's that people may deliberately use these technologies to harm it and probably that's where we should be focusing our attention and our thought rather than playing catch up after people are harmed. Well, so we're not worried about creating a super species that's going to end us next week.

At the moment, that's positive news, Sean Lyons. Quickly, just before you go, has this been the biggest advancement in technology you've seen in your career? It feels like it's all just happened over two or three-year period. Yeah, well, I mean, look, it definitely has, and I've been in this game for a very long time, and I've thought the other things that I've seen in the path were the biggest advancement. But I think the thing that's important to remember is that this is actually just a continuation of, of those technological advancements, right? That we wouldn't be looking at this if we didn't have a free and open internet that's

been coming for a long time. And I think that hopefully that's what gives us the sense of security that somebody isn't building a super race to take over and make us all redundant and lockers in a box. But this is just the way that technology is moving forward. And then it will prevail as it has in many other contexts. And I think we will keep control of this technology. That's my most optimistic outlook. And that's why we love Sean Lyons.

He's a cup, half a full guy. Sean Lyons from NetSafe, Chief Online Safety Office. Appreciate your time and we'll speak shortly. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The Hits. Everybody's doing mundane things. We'd love to hear from you this morning. My wife last night, in my head, because we went along to a movie premiere of Heart of the Beast,

the Brad Pitt movie filmed in New Zealand. Was that the dog? Yeah, with a dog. Does the dog die? I don't know. They're not getting into any details. but he wants to be invited to more movies. I went to the bathroom and came back and then my wife goes, Brad's here.

And I was like, oh my God, Brad is up, what? And she's like, yeah, Brad, over there. And it was, well, she thought it was Brad from the Rock. It wasn't even Brad from the Rock. I was like, hey, when you say Brad's here. And we're in a Brad Pitt movie premiere. First person I'm going to think of is Brad Pitt and it's filmed in New Zealand. Oh, Brad from the Rock.

So I could have almost saw a celebrity doing a mundane thing, but not quite. wasn't even Brad from the Rock either. I was like, well, no, it's no one we even know. Did her tone not alert you that she was like, oh, Brad's here? She was pretty casual about it. I mean, she would have been like, oh my God, Brad Pitt's here. And I was like, oh, my God, Brad's here. So almost saw a celebrity year, but not quite last night.

You jumped to a good conclusion. I did. In my mind. I was like, course, Brad Pitts. Kirsty, morning to you. Hi, morning to you. Kirstie, Kirsty, celebrities doing mundane things. Who have you seen and what were they doing?

Yeah, so back in the day before our kids, when I had time and money, I would go to Les Mills. And I was on the Xe Cycle, and I was reading, like, Woman's Day or whatever it was, about 20 years ago. And I looked over, and there was, you know when you can feel someone reading what you were reading or looking at you. And it was Helen Clark. So he was next to me on the Xe Cycle. She was cycling as well, Prime Minister Helen Clark and looking over your shoulder at the gossip mags. The gossip mag, and it was so weird, and then I had some sort of double take. We're both sort of just chipping me quietly sweating.

And then I didn't know, like, when I could turn the page. You know, I'm like, you finish with this one, Howard? Are you done? Yeah, and I was like, can I turn now? Are you finished the page? And it was weird. And then I just slowly kind of slunk off. You could have moved, you could have moved the bikes closer together

and put the magazine in the middle. Sharing it with that. That's wonderful. Do you remember? what story she was particularly interested in? What were you reading? I'm trying to remember. I feel like it was like cricket, like, wasn't Shane Jones or someone like that?

That was a cricket star. Oh, yeah, right. Or maybe someone had had a miracle baby or something. Shane born, maybe, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I can't even, I was just, it was all a bit weird. But then it was, yeah, just weird. I would throw you if Helen Clark was looking over your shoulder on an exercise Yeah, right. Hey, Kirsty, you really appreciate your phoneing through.

Going have a wonderful Tuesday. You too. All right, well, Kathy's coming through, Shell. Are we celebrities doing mundane things? We can squeeze some more in before seven. John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast. The Hits.

Morning we're talking celebrities doing mundane things. Yeah, some great calls and texts coming through, 0800. The Hits, producer Troy, saw Taika Waititi buying some ramen noodles from Japan Mart. Ben thought he might have been seeing Brad Pitt, but it was just a miscom there. It wasn't even, my wife thought it was someone else. We knew he called Brad. It wasn't even that person.

So really it was just a guy. Teresa. Very well, thank you. Getting ready for work. Lovely. What do you do? I'm working with home support here in Rukai. Oh, good on you.

Actually, meaningful work in the community. All right, what have you? What celebrity have you seen doing mundane things? I had coffee with Jeremy Clarkson in the UK. What, from Top Gear and Clarkson's Farm? From Top Gear and Clarkson's Farm, yep. How did that happen? I was working in the pub and cows,

and the livestock of them just gone down the road. So they went out and they bought them in for coffee. So I made them a coffee and we sat and chatted. And then I had to actually go outside and write steak and kidney pie on the board because they wanted to film something about steak and kidney pie. So my writing's been on TV. Oh, wow. Were they filming Top Gear or something?

Yeah, they were filming Top Gear on the Isle of Wight. They used the military road out on the back of the island because it's sort of open and it's clear. and yeah he bought the car over but he's a really really nice guy he's very tall very thin he's a lot thinner than he looks on telly what did you guys talk about like what are you say is it awkward conversation

or is it all good no no no I was actually really nervous to serve him coffee because I've never taken it in my life but I couldn't get the coffee to him quick enough it was sort of see now Teresa I would this is an incredible call but I would say it's going against the grain of the format of celebrities doing mundane things I mean as you

saw Clarkson filming Top Gear and sat down and had a coffee with him. That's pretty impressive. No, I didn't actually see him filming. We saw him drive the car through the town. Oh, that's okay. And then he goes off and films it in a different location. He came in and sat with us and chatted,

and we chatted about cars and, you know, what he does. Oh, that's a great call. Teresa, out of ten, what would you rank Clarkson? Oh, ten. Ten. He's a ten. Oh, that's so cool. He's such a nice guy.

He's lovely. I love the Clarkson's farm. Yeah, it's a popular show. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. I think we've got to bring that back weekly. We used to do it every week. Yeah. Still got some legs in it.

Oh, mate, Jeremy Clarkson. How cool was that? So cool. I'm glad he's a nice guy. Yeah.