Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Acapella Fella, with Sierra Katow

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

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Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Under the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and sucks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Go. I am Jesse Thorne America's Radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy, detective. Jordan, don't worry. I'm ready for this recording.

Yeah, I can tell. I've eaten. Yes. I want to say a gold slager, but that's like a thing that you order at a bar that has gold flakes in it, right? I think so. Yeah, liquor with a little. little flex of gold in it. A gilt schnegel. It's like a little Swiss meat stick. Right. A Swiss meat stick. Do you know the Swiss meat stick I'm talking about? I can't picture this stick. I only eat all American meat sticks. Why am I talking to you? I should be talking to my other co-host John Hodgman who's a pocket meat enthusiast of the first order. He knows all the pocket meat. Sure. I'll play a little pocket pool every now and then. Okay. I know what you're talking about. You're talking about touching your penis. Yeah. But pocket meat, that's a horse of a different. color. I mistook the hour of our recording by one hour, and so when my 10-minute warning on my

my Google calendar went off. You would just put the souffle in the oven. Yeah, exactly. You're like, I got time for this. My boss was coming over. Teresa's boss. Teresa's boss was coming over. So while you were late for this recording, you were having a sitcom scenario happen. Exactly. Where Teresa's boss was coming over, and if the dinner didn't go well, she didn't get the big promotion. Yeah, and I'm a pretty witch. Okay. But I'm bad at cooking. Do you think that's the first instance of that, like that sitcom trope?

It was probably bewitched, right? It's got to be on a website, right? It's got to be on a website. Gabe, look up what? Look up on the internet. Yeah, the first time in a sitcom. A boss is coming over. Somebody's got to burn the casserole.

I think we were on the show able to figure out the first instance of kids in a trench coat, acting like an adult. Lucy burns a casserole, right? Oh, yeah. That's some fucking Lucy shit. You're right. But it probably happened first on Fibber McGee and Molly. Right, yeah.

You got to figure it having a fibber first. This is something we don't know called like the Colgate hour, and it's happened on that. Yeah. Anyway. So you were a little late. You grabbed a meat. I grabbed a meat and I grabbed a cheese flap. Okay.

Got myself a, I got some pre-slice cheddar at the house. Peeled off a piece of that. Nice. Pre-sliced, you know, you can save time by not slicing. Now, I know what you're thinking. Jesse, you look great tonight. Yeah. It's because I'm wearing cut off sweatpants, sweat shorts.

sweatshorts and a like exercise sweatshirt. Did you cut the sweatpants yourself? No, these came cut. They came cut. But they've, you know, rolled extensively in that time. Yeah. And I think it's important if you're a humble podcaster like me, it's important to podcast in the clothes that you went to physical therapy in. Right.

Yes. You know, how are you, bud? I'm doing good. I don't have a particular anecdote to top the show off with. You seem like you're wearing normal. human clothes, like adult man's clothes. You know, a tea and some jeans, arguable. Our guest on the program this week,

podcasts every single fucking week with a guy who dresses like he just came from physical therapy. Okay. So let's get into that. Let's get into it. Our guest on the program, stand-up comedian, brilliant stand-up comedian, a writer and actor, and of course, one of the hosts of TV Chef Fantasy League, Sierra Cato. And Sierra, I'm talking, of course, about our mutual friend, Ifi Waddeway,

who... Fresh from physical therapy. If he's not wearing cut off sweatpants shorts is not Ify Wadwey. Yeah, it's a major feature. You know, I think we promise If You Waddywey in either like some shorts. I think he was wearing crocs. Maybe took him off in this very studio. You never know. Maybe a muscle tank from time to time. At any given time, he has hulked from something. Yes, yes. Yeah, we like to catch them fresh from a workout or headed to hockey. There's, yeah, always between things. So, yeah, that's what you can expect from TV Chef Fantasy League. Lots of muscle. I contribute some. That's why they call it The Gun Show, right?

Yes, the Gun Show. Like fans of the show, they don't call it TV Chef Fent. Yeah, if you're really a fan, you know, the guns are coming out. It's the gun show. Sierra, what are your top physical activities? What are the most arduous things you do with your body? Great question. You don't want to know. Leaving aside pocket pool.

Okay, fair. You're right. I won't bring pocketpool back into this. I do, I feel like I've been doing a lot of weeding. Okay. Weeding. I've been,

yeah, that'll give me, that'll make me sweat. I have a Fitbit that tells me what my heart rate is like. I get my zone minutes. So I feel like that gives me some zone minutes. This is not an ad. And I,

I will run from time to time. Like, away from people. Away from my problems. You do a lot of fleeing. Yes, I do. I'm a flight girl. Right. No fight for you. No fight. Nobody wants to fight me.

Just out of, you know, making sure nobody else gets hurt. And then, yeah, I feel like that's the main thing. You know what? I have a little rebounder that I jump on. I've done it once or twice. Okay. What is a rebounder? It's like a mini trampoline. Okay.

I saw my friend had one and she does it all the time. So I was like, maybe I'm going to like this. I don't think, I think it's kind of boring. You know what? Friend of Jordan Jesse Go, Judy Greer, once came to our office. office and told me about the underground garage trampoline jumping class that she went to. Underground. And because Judy Greer- Kind of like a fight club thing.

Yes. You got to know a knock on a-butt for like upper middle class beautiful women in Los Felix. I can see why you maybe want to keep that address secret. Sure. And when Judy Greer- A lot of tramp-o fans out there are probably going to want to. When Judy Greer tells you about this. you do not stop thinking about it for the next five years.

Right. Because there is no more appealing human being you have ever met. And so you think whatever they told you about must be the best thing ever. Right. Like, it is insane on a rational level to go to someone's basement to jump on a mini trampoline. Yeah. However, if Judy Greer tells you that, you're like, like, thank you for informing me about the best thing I've ever learned about.

Amazing. The fact that she does that makes me want to get back into it. Right? Yeah, I think I got to. Well, you could be doing this with, you can be doing this with J.G. right now. Yeah, I guess I got to go to the... You could be getting so many best friend roles. That's, I mean, yeah, I did see her once at a bar from afar, and I was like, oh my goodness.

It's just such, because she's just such a, you know? Radiant human being. You know. But yes. Okay. Well, I'll search for this garage. I'll check every basement in America. Yeah, the start basement.

Yeah. Did either of you have a trampoline or have a trampoline friend growing up? Like the kids in the neighborhood who had the trampoline? You bet. You bet. I did have one trampoline friend and she was like doing flips and stuff. She was like flipping around. So we'd always go over.

I feel like I had the worry of like getting, I would get bounced a lot, you know. So I feel like, yeah, I don't think, you know, I don't think she had the. net or there might have even been some exposed spring for a while. Right. You know, and then you learn. Right over a sprinkler. Let's like, you know, maybe the leg gets, you know, we watch some YouTube videos of like people getting their legs broken and you're like, oh shit.

Okay, maybe we shouldn't do that. But yeah, definitely, did you guys have good trampoline friends? I think trampoline is like home trampoline. And I have a big giant trampoline at my house. Oh, wow, wow. But I think home trampoline. How long you had this trip for? Hold on.

We've had a trampoline friend this whole. Why am I not at the house tramping? Jordan, you're not friends with enough contemporary autistic children. As if you were, all your friend's houses would have trampolines. Wow. What's that's relation to autism? It is because many autistic children desire proprioception, the feeling of interacting with the outside world,

like pressing on a wall or getting hugged by something tightly or these kinds of things, slamming into walls. And for a lot of autistic kids, trampolines provide that kind of feedback. And it's very pleasant and soothing. Okay. I'll tell you who it's not pleasant and soothing to. Neuropypical dad.

It makes me crazy. It terrifies me. I can't go on it. It makes me sick at my stomach. Right. I do not like anything about it takes up the whole backyard. Okay. It's so central to my family's lifestyle that I can't make it go away.

How often do the kids train? tramp. They're tramping. Daily? Well, at this point, Frankie is the only one, my nine-year-old is the only one tramping daily. Oh, wow. I mean, that's pretty good. But there was a time when everyone was tramping multiple times every day.

And it makes so much noise. It made our neighbors mad at us. Right. And again, incredibly dangerous. Like, all the equipment that they've added to it has to some extent improved the same. safety of, but it's still sort of like when you find out that 40% of people die in their shower and then you shouldn't be taking showers or something. Oh, what?

It's brand new to me. It's like, you know how there's places in your house? Oh, you don't have a handrail that makes you 17 times more likely to die in an accident. Like if you bring a trampoline into your house, you can't get life insurance anymore, basically. And all the safety equipment, like the thing that goes around the big net that goes around it. On the one hand, that is better than falling off. But it's also another thing to get your leg stuck in. Oh, oh. You know what I mean? In a net. Yeah, caught in a fish net, essentially. The other member of my household that really is into the trampoline is a beautiful manatee.

My dog, Jr. But he just gets mad at it. And then he tries to jump through the net. Sounds cute. We've had to replace the net a couple of times. Right. He's trying to figure out how to get in there. through the tiny holes. Through the tiny holes. I was going to make a statement about trampoline households, but now that I know that Jesse has one, I'm willing to accept it because I think you and I, Jordan, come from a generation substantially before people realized

that this was an important piece of occupational therapy equipment. Right. And primarily it was an important piece of a home supply that, like, lived on the edge between dangerous dirtbag backyard and fancy suburban backyard. Like, it could fall into either category. Yeah, I think the statement I was going to make was that the family with the trampoline is always a little bit sleazy. Like, dad's always in the garage smoking. Like, I feel like the...

Don't smoke in the house. No, he can't smoke in the house. He fell asleep with a cigarette once. Everybody freaked out. Nothing happened. Nothing happened. It was fine. I knew no one with a trampoline at all.

No one I knew had a trampoline. Because I'm from the inner city where there wasn't room for a trampoline and where a dangerous family engaged in other activities. Yeah. I think where you lived in a sort of middle class part of Orange County where there was both fancy guy and dirt bag backyard within arm's reach at any time is like the ideal. real trampoline spot. That's totally true. What was, Chero,

what was your trampoline family like? Oh, yeah, there might have been some smoking in the garage. No, I think it was, it could have been smoking.

It could have been business. Who knows? Yeah, hard to say. Dads can do a lot of things in garages. Dads can do a lot of things. A little pool playing,

if you know what I mean? A little pocket pool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't know, what any of that means. Not even really clear on what pocket. We'll ask him. We'll ask him.

I'm sure he's still out there. I have a question for both of you. Yes. How would you compare a pool family? I mean, excuse me. How would you compare a pocket pool family? It's a fun family activity. How would you compare a trampoline family to a ski-do family?

I think these are... What is ski? Sorry, am I? Jet ski. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Any kind of like... Like there's boat people.

Boat Lake. But then there's jet ski people. Oh, okay. Okay, right. I mean, I think it's similar, right? I think it's a similar family who like, and maybe dad doesn't have a lot of money. Maybe dad's making some impulsive purchases. Yeah.

I think these are the purchases of a dad who maybe has highs and lows. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Emotional buys. I think, let's see. Yeah, it kind of, it makes me feel like they're both athletic. You know, you've got to be kind of high octane to go on a jet ski.

That's true, yeah, yeah. But that engages some, like, muscles. Yeah, to stay on. Yeah, you got to. Otherwise, it zooms off without you. Sure, yeah. I think, like, the place in my life where I see this cultural difference most vividly between what I understand culturally and something adjacent to this world

is I will sometimes hear about baseball players, who grew up with baseball field components at their house. Okay, like a little batting cage or something? Like a batting cage or a pitching mound or sometimes a baseball field. Okay. Oh. And you're like, I don't know if that means that they're like unimaginably rich. Or is this like when I first started watching American Pickers and I learned that there are parts of

America where an apparently like definitely middle class person has seven buildings. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, lots of space. I feel like the mound is attainable anywhere. You can make yourself a little mound. Can you get us a mound? Yeah, yeah, you just scoop up a little mound, you know? Yeah.

But yeah, I guess the throwing aspect, you don't want to throw it right into your neighbor's backyard. Like the 60 feet, six inches, you know? Sure, sure. But I do feel like, I mean, some places, oh, I will shout out Wisconsin. because I feel like I go, I've been to my friends, my friend's lovely hometown of Merrill, Wisconsin, where it's like, you know, just beautiful, lots of space. Sounds like America's Dairyland to me.

I mean, I feel like you can have like 10 baseball fields if you want in your backyard. Yeah. Have you tried the dairy in Wisconsin? Is it markedly better than? So I went before I was lactose intolerant and I went after. And I definitely enjoyed it a little bit more before. But yeah, I mean, cheese curds. Curds. Fry those curds.

Delicious. So that was a highlight. I mean, there's like beer that's like the spotted cow that has like a dairy element to it. I don't know. Okay. If it's actually in there or if it's just marketed that way. They have a dairy beer? I don't know. Am I?

Yeah. Wisconsin dairy beer. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Throw a little dairy in that beer. Right. Drink it up. Sure.

Yep. And yeah, I think I, you know, probably had some cheese along the way, other various cheeses along the way. But yes, definitely those curds. I've stopped at some real big cheese. stores in Wisconsin. Okay. On tour with the Judge John Hodgman podcast. And I think what you'll find is that the selection of specialty cheeses of remark, you know,

you're a former cheesemonger. Yes. It's among one of my most impressive credits. Yeah. Oh, that cheese store I worked at closed down. Oh, no. Oh, no. One of my first jobs in L.A. is I worked at, say cheese.

Oh, great name. And it had been there forever and I just drove by. She's no more. Oh, nay cheese. I think when you visit one of these giant cheese stores, I think an emporium or an outlet, like slightly damaged cheeses. It's like a pull off to the side of the road and then there's a warehouse full of cheese with a giant mouse outside. There are very few weird specialty cheeses available.

Okay. It's not that they're not available in these. places. They do often have a few, but it's not like a cheesemonger where there's 7,000 kinds of cheese. And they're all artisanal special cheeses. But if you go in one of these places and you buy some cheddar cheese, this cheddar cheese is so much better than regular cheddar cheese. Oh, yeah? You're just like, great. Then let's just eat Jack and cheddar then. And the one specific one that's specific to this area of Wisconsin, those three cheeses will be great. We'll eat nothing but cheese forever because it's so good. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Hodgeman and I talked about when we were, we periodically do a cheese podcast for, um, you're talking about shooting the breeze. Shooting the breeze. B-R-I-E-S. Uh, that's for maximum members, maximum fund.org slash joins. And I think when we were like really high, maybe we'd just gotten done doing an episode and we're like, there's fucking rules. We could do this, we could do this forever.

We should, you know, like, we were like talking about trying to do a live show at one of those giant cheese and poriums. And I think realized that, like, we'll lose so much money on this. This is a terrible financial decision, and I think we both kind of noped out around the same time. But we had this minute where I think we both really wanted to go there and try and do a podcast. I'll say that, like, for me, a guy that doesn't drink, they're really, like, there's two kinds of roadside emporium that when you are in America means so much, are so valuable to me. they are giant barbecue restaurant, right, and giant cheese store. Like there's no, I don't care enough about candy factory.

Right. I can't eat chocolate, and, you know, distillery and brewery are useless to me. Sure. And so, but if you have a regional barbecue or a giant supply of dairy, yeah. Dear Lord, pretty good. Count me in. I mean, yeah, it sounds like you recreated that with your meal just earlier. Yeah.

You were trying to chase that high. I can do that in the car. Side of the road. Grab it in my fist and eat it in the car. Meat and cheese. Sierra pre-podcast, you were telling me that you're headed back to your college town for your, like, college reunion. Couple reunion. Yeah, well, definitely, I got to go to my tenure college reunion.

I got a preview of it last year because. I'm sorry to interrupt you, Sierra. You definitely don't, but go ahead. You're welcome to. I'm not saying you can't, but you don't have to. You're right. I don't have to. I probably, yeah, I contemplated not.

I went even get this, I went to my, what was definitely my nine-year reunion in theory, because my husband went to his tenure and he was a year older. So I got to preview it. And, you know, there was like warm Brussels sprouts on the, you know, it was like a buffet situation in the hockey rink with like blue lights on the Brussels sprouts, like very appetizing stuff. So I'm looking forward to that. Everybody wore big name tags with their names on it first and last. So I think that's the key. You don't have to worry about that. But Sierra, are you the famous person of your- No, God. Where did you go to college? I went to Harvard.

Harvard University. So where's that? Boston, Cambridge. Cambridge. Cambridge. Cambridges. I don't know. I guess, yes. Cambridge, Massachusetts. This is a four-year school? Yes. You were also saying, though, not to just make you recount all your travel plans, but are you're going back for a Harvard Lampoon reunion. This is true. Right before, I got to go like, they're like a month apart, and that one's their 150th year of the lampoon, which I guess was a magazine the whole time.

We're actually doing the same thing for Humor Force Five. Right. Wait, yes. I got this for you. Very exciting. Well, then you guys are really, I mean, you made that into a real business year. I mean, just think, they're literally, if it weren't for Humor Force 5,

we literally never would have gotten Caddyshack. That's right. Yes, that's why there's catty shack. I mean, there you go. That's, tell them, tell them. And that first cast of SNL when it was really punk rock, you know. All Humor Force 5.

All Comber 4's 5. When you go to that Harvard Lampoon reunion, will it just be like every Simpsons writer ever and like all these? I mean, we'll see. I think, yeah, people, there will be people there who I think, yeah, through the years,

older men, that's what I, what's, that's what I say? That's what I say, men who are in there, you know, graduated in the 80s. They love to be there. Yeah, that's the primary demographic, as you might imagine. Yeah. So I feel like, yeah, that's the funny thing about the lampoon, a lot of people, you know, especially coming out here and be like, yeah, I was in that. And they're like, oh, great. So like, you write for the Simpsons, right? Or like, you know, it's sort of this thing. But really what that was is like a class of people who graduated in the 80s or whatever. they all graduate together, you know, find their way into something and all all work for like 40 years uninterrupted. Yeah.

And that's great, but it, you know, that's really like of that era. And then everybody else is just corporate law, corporate law. Right, right, right. Yeah, most of my colleagues are investment bankers probably, which, hey, you know, probably more money to be made there. Are there special songs? Oh, uh, there probably would be, yeah, I don't know if I would remember any of them. And I don't know if people sing. but I'm sure there are, you know,

a cappella groups, obviously big part of college. Oh, yeah. I was not a part of one. Did you guys do that? Did you guys do that? Yeah, I'm sure there are people who, you know, by chance because they're creative, like, there were great singers. Sure.

But I personally not mean. People are fucking between the acapella groups and the Harvard lampoon for sure. You think? Oh, oh, oh, a little love. Yeah, sure. A little love connection. A little forbidden love. The original Romeo and Juliet's.

Scary. Yeah, I mean, certainly. I think the, you know, the Acapella fella is not my type, but. The Acapella fella. No, I, I don't like a wee little bow tie. You don't like a wee little bow tie and they're spinning around. Sure, a bow tie and a frosted tip. A frosted tip.

I was going to say a part in the hair. Oh, yeah, yeah, but both. You could do both. You could do a frosted part. You could do a fron. Yes. I mean, your roots, but you're dye in your roots. A different color.

Hey, maybe we started here to hear you. Did you guys do any Acapellas? No a cappella's. Yeah, I, so I like in high school was like in the musicals. Oh, so that was like, that's the like singing that I did in my life. Yeah, I mean, you know, I think it was one of just those things of like in a tale is oldest time when it comes to high school drama. They just needed boys.

Okay, good, good. If you were a boy and, you know. Congratulations. Yeah. And you could sing and not belch at the same time. You could be in the musical. Sierra, this is the premise that got me my marriage. Oh, yeah.

Really? I believe it. I believe it's gotten mini marriages. That's huge. At UC Santa Cruz, all the normal college activities existed in sort of either ironic or tribute form, I would say. Now, I do think Santa Cruz had the situation where there was two appapelal groups and they hated each other. Oh? Yeah. One was Cloud 9 and they were from college 9. and there was another one. And when you would talk to a member of one at the party, if you would talk to one member at a party,

they would shit talk the other one. For a while, we had a rival improv group. Yeah, I think so. Oh, okay, wait. Yeah, so what was the improv landscape? A lot of groups or just really you guys? No, it was just Humor Force Five until the rival group came along because somebody didn't get into Humor Force Five, I think.

Oh, yes. That's how to a spite improv group. Yes. And I think what was going on, I'm remembering it correctly. So Humor Force 5. We were for the people. We were a populist improv group.

We weren't, you know, hoity-toity. We just wanted to. No, we're just up there playing pocket hockey. Yes. For the people. So we did like, whose line is it anyway style improv? We would do the like, all right. And, you know, give me a weird job and a hat.

And the audience would give us their hats. Like a truck driver and a pope hat. Yeah. That's pretty crazy. What? But I think when the spite improv group came along, they did. They did more artistic long form improv where you just, it's like, you know, you're just jazz, man. You don't need the box of hats that we had for your humor force five.

Serving another, a whole different audience. Of course. So that's going to be a more discerning improv palette. But like we didn't also, with UC Santa Cruz, there was no real Greek life other than a fraternity that got started specifically to be. be on Greek life on MTV. Good, as all should begin. You know, like people, there was like a few like ethnic interest

fraternities and sororities, but they weren't, like, they didn't have a house that they all lived in. It was all just sort of like the equivalent of the Filipino club, only in the form of a Greek organization. And like, even with the acapella groups, like the acapella groups, it wasn't like,

it felt like people were like, well, we're in college, we should start an Acapella group? There doesn't seem to be one more than we are of this proud tradition of having Acapella groups at UC Santa Cruz. What's the one, what's like the big acapella group that. The Whippin' Poofs? Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

That our friend Jonathan Colton was a member of. Wow. Yeah, that's a big one. CERRA was Lampoon your main college activity that wasn't studying? Yes. And getting blazed. I just made a little joint smoking thing with my fingers. Anyway.

Yes, besides those two majors, my double major. No, I think the stand-up club, we had a Harvard College stand-up club, H.C. Sucks. Stand-up Comic Society, sorry. That's fun. And we, you know, let's see, we had Harrison Greenbaum, I think, was one of the founding members. He's a New York comic. Okay, shout out. Cool.

And then, yeah, I feel like we're a little, you know, kind of similar to the Filipino club at Santa Cruz. Like, no house, but just little meetings. And then we had like, I feel like it was like a conference room in one of the dorms and we would meet and like come up with ideas and then put on shows. And I feel like the shows, of course, college best for that. Because you literally, we would, I would get to like open for like the drumming team. You know, like it's like you can get any stage time. Really warm up the crowd. I think I, you know, before like a Wushu team.

Right. All right. That's my team. Enjoy Wushu. Yeah. Yeah. Next Wushu, the main event. To be fair, Sierra, I would much rather open for Woooo.

You know, yeah, you don't want to close. No. After somebody has swung a halberd around their head. That's the one rule of comedy. Do not close after Lushu. When I was in middle school, one of my darkest memories of middle school, I would say, is like, I went to this very fancy, progressive, suburban, private middle school that I took a bus to and was the scholarship kid at. And one of the things that we had was Tai Chi class. Oh, yeah.

And so once a. a week. We'd go in our, put on our Tai Chi outfits and we'd hold the tea bag and, you know, it's good. It's good. It's good. It's fine. It sounds like you're about to say it's not good. Sounds like you're about it'll say it's not good. Look, it's good. If you're 12 years old, definitely what you want to do is Tai Chi. There's no question that. Certainly not Sega Genesis. No. So we had this Tai Chi class and it was fine. Our instructor was a very nice man. He was a genuine Chi expert, you know, he had Tai Chi superpowers with his chi, you know, he could break things or whatever, right? Whoa.

It was a great guy. Wonderful guy. To pass the class, you had to stand with your feet one floor tile apart and touch the ground, and I couldn't do it. So I couldn't pass the class. But anyway, that's not the dark memory. The dark memory is one day our teacher, who was a very sort of taciturn Tai Chi teacher type guy, just happened to bring in a VHS tape of his Wushu team, which apparently was the main thing he does. Apparently the main thing he did was like teach 17 year olds to swing swords around. Okay.

He showed, and people don't know what Wushu is. That's what fucking Jackie Chan did before he became a movie star. And like he put on this video and we're just sitting there like we have spent the last two years holding the tea bag. Right. You are showing us a video of swords. Doing backflips with swords. It's the greatest thing we've ever seen And we've been meditating this whole time

It's the lead up I mean It could have been Okay you know you have to do that for two years So that one day you can graduate You're ready And then we'll give you their swords Once our balls are full of cheese

Sierra is the like HC sucks stand up club like still there Like when you go back Could you like drop in and blow everybody's mind? Oh God I'm sure it is I feel like I have come across other, you know, there's not much of a maybe alumni network where, where I'm, you know, people check in, but it's like

maybe if I overlap with, you know, a lot of Lampoon people are also stand-up comedians, so they might be like, oh yeah, that's still going or it's very popular. It'll, it'll like wax and wane with the popularity of stand-up. I feel like it's a good measure. It's like, you know, when stand-up is, I feel like it's stand-up is big right now because obviously like Instagram and everybody's touring. So I feel like it probably is big now. And then Maybe it dies back down when they realize you can't make any money in it. No, I feel like it's, yeah, it's been, I would not know how to drop in.

Sure. I don't know where they're located, but I'm sure they exist. If you go to a reunion, would you be hanging out with Theo Vaughn? Right, right. Yeah, yeah, he's one of the proud of them. Is he a Harvard? No. But, you know, I mean, they probably would induct him into some honorary society.

Yeah. Why not? Because obviously. I mean, you know, I'm in the basement for a little bit. That might be, yeah, that might be the politics of the youth these days. Who knows? Who knows what they're doing?

Who knows what the youth is up to? What's the hip, what's the cool kid club activity at Harvard University? Harvard College. Forget me. Oh, cool kid club. I'm excluding graduate students. I feel like, I mean, you know, because there's like the equivalent of Greek life, like the final clubs, that was always like, that was like the wealthy.

Therefore, I guess. Not cool of that. Yeah, like if you're a legacy, you get into it. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's the, you know, New York wealthy, like hedge fund son thing to do. George H.H.H.W. Bush. Yeah, yeah. If you're into that kind of thing.

If you're into being a hedge fund son. Oh, I am. Picking up a new hobby. I'm trying to get adopted by a hedge fund guy. Yeah, yeah. Hedge fund guys, if you're out there. Look, I'll take a venture capitalist. Oh, gosh.

New money. It's fine. Yeah. But yeah, VC son. HF son. Yeah. Somebody in a polar fleece vest. That sounds like a Craigslist ad.

V.C. Sun for HF. Son. Hey, let them out, you know? Sure. True love. Let's do this. Let's take a minute to craft our misconnections post.

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I've heard rumors, but I've never seen it with my own eyes. It's this giant number, three digits on this thing. Okay. That's how many rotating weekly. meals factor has. Okay, hold on. I'm listening. Yeah, 100, rotating weekly meals. They're always fresh.

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tonight. Yeah, Jesse, you got to keep the factor stocked. I'm telling you, I'm always, telling you this. You got to keep that fridge full of factors. Well, I guess I'd better head to factormeals.com slash JJGo50 off and use code JJ go 50 off to get 50% off and free breakfast for a year. Eat like a pro this month with Factor. New subscribers only varies by plan. One free breakfast item per box for one year while subscription is active. Jordan, yes. This weekend, Judge John Hodgman at the Bell House in Brooklyn.

It is March 6th and 7th. It's going to be a great time. Sounds like this is a new fun version of the Judge John Hodgman show that's never been before seen. We've got John Dickerson coming. Hey, okay. We've got Ira Glass. Formerly of the news? Yeah, exactly. Kiwi Lewis's band.

Yeah, exactly. We've got Stuart Wellington coming with Charlene Wellington, his beautiful wife. One of the best dudes and one of the best wives. And we've got the great Ira Glass. Hey, hey, okay. And it's going to be a great time. We're going to do a bunch of new comedy bits that we wrote. We're going to do a bunch of all kinds of different shit you've never seen before in a Judge John Hodgner's show.

So if you're in New York, I hope everybody will come out to the Bell House. Two completely different shows. Top to bottom, 100% different. Nothing repeated between the shows. Wow. Yeah. You got any of these, you going to any libraries or anything? No, I don't have any book events.

Who are you if you're not going to a library? Listen. and I... Okay, librarians out there, get your shit together. Why don't I have a library event on the books? Yeah. Because I can't say it. Probably saying it.

Okay, with our listenership, I should have a freaking library event every week. Get at me librarians. DMs are open. Yeah. But... Invite Jordan over. The two of you can do a library event. You can talk about what, Masters of Atlantis by Charles Portis probably.

Yes. Confederacy of Dundses, maybe These are all things I can talk about with librarians But yeah, I have some stuff Coming up in the future months But for now, folks can head out to their local comic book store And pre-order, or not pre-order, it's out, You can just get it.

Predator Bloodshed, the Predator Comics miniseries. Can I tell you what? Yes. I ran into the Stankest Boys' Boys' Grandma. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Stankest Boys coming soon to Jordan Jessica, by the way. Wow, what a tease.

I know. I ran into the Stankis Boys' Grandmas. grandma, they said they got one of those predators. Okay. If it's good enough for the Stankas boys, it's good enough for you, dear reader. That's a true story. I'm not making that up. That's great.

She really did tell me that. I mean, children shouldn't be allowed to read it, but... Yeah, it's pretty violent. But that's okay. And has a little bit of swearing. Yeah, but that's good for kids. Yeah, kids like that. Tuffins a muffled.

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You pretend to be bad. Yeah, I shouldn't have said that on air. I should be hustling. Yeah. Don't worry, no one listens to this. You can still go out there in color of money this. if you need to. I should clarify, though,

Jackie Gleason does listen to this. Jackie Gleason is our only listener. Yeah. Oh, well. It's a good thing he... He joins Max Fund at the $10,000 a month level. Hell yeah. Thanks, Minnesota Fats.

Yes. Just a couple things. Gabe looked up the first instance of we need to make dinner for the boss or he'll fire me. What was that, Gabe? Do you want to give the mic there? It was Dick Van Dyke. The episode is Saul the sponsor April 11th, 1962, supposedly.

For television. Do you think everyone who's made a television show since Dick Van Dyke, their only goal has been, how could we possibly find people that attractive and funny at the same time? Like, talk about a fucking grand slam. Oh, yeah. How could any babe and hunk be that actually funny? Anyway. Wild.

I have a, just before we get into calls, I have a quick update for our internal continuity, the canon of this show. Yeah. Thank you. Just because people like want to know. So one of our, what would you say are the beloved Jordan Jesse go like running jokes? Jesse's talking about San Francisco again. Costco story. Costco story.

Now that I think about it, most of the beloved running jokes. are just the few experiences I've had in my life. Yes. You know, got to get a son. That's kind of relatively recent, although I've probably been doing it for 10 years now, but it feels new. Sure, that's a classic.

But I wanted to kind of throw it back to one of our, you know, one of our OG running jokes. Like a penguin in the pants? This is in regards to our good friends, Chip Dipson and Dipson. Oh, so, Sierra, for your benefit, Chip Dipson and Dipson are two character names that Jordan's friend from high school thought of? I think we thought of them.

Okay. Or my friend from high school. Listen, if I'm stealing something from Minesh Likani, I'm very sorry. Sorry, Mnash. And at some point, Rob Cordray promised to us that he would name a character on Children's Hospital, Chip Dipson. Yeah, I think the uses of Chip Dipson and Dobson work, Here's two, we should, here's two funny character names. Use them.

Please freely. Use them. Yeah. We gave, this is sort of our slash Manesh's contribution to the world. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. Linux. Thanks to my friend Max Ritsenberg or whoever thought of this. Yeah. So I, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think Cordy was able to make that happen. He, well, I don't think he ultimately, he was able. He was in charge of the show, Jordan.

You know, sometimes the showrunner has a lot of power. He chose to. You think this, you think David Wayne was like, not on my watch. I'm putting that dumb name in something. I'm keeping this show, Children's Hospital, classy. Legal was like, there's one Chip Dipson who's very, very litigious. Really litigious, yes. Be careful.

So I think, correct me if you know another one, but I think the most prominent product to use Chip Dipson at least is he is a character in the mainline Marvel comics, what they call Earth 616. Wow. So Chip Dipson, and I believe this was the work of Chris Hastings. Thank you, Chris Hastings. Thank you, Chris Hastings. Thank you, Max Ritzinberg.

Jerry, you want to thank him from high school. Oh, gosh. Gillian Nybock. Yes. So Chris Hastings, who is a... Jordan, sorry to interrupt Dr. Max Ritsenberg. He's now a medical doctor. Yeah, way to go.

So I think Chris Hastings, a legit comic book writer, now a podcaster, great dude, hilarious dude. He put Chip Dipson in. I'm looking at the Marvel Wiki. This is not how I remember it, but the Marvel Wiki says that Chip Dipson first appeared in Deadpool, Secret Agent Deadpool number four. And just under history, it says Chip Dipson discovered the dimension called Paradox Space. Right. So, you know, it didn't make it in a children's hospital, but it is in the...

the Marvel 616, which is pretty cool. Pretty cool. I mean, and then will Chip Dipson discover Dipson in this paradox universe? Sierra, I have some news. I don't know if I'm supposed to say this. Hold on. I don't know if I'm breaking an NDA. Hold on.

Hold on. But this April. This April. Hush. Dipson joins the Marvel universe in Web of Venom, issue one. Oh, wow. April 8th. Wherever you get your comic books,

Dipson joins the MC, not the MC, not the Marvel cinema, it's not a movie, it's a comic. Yeah. So the 6-16. The Marvel Comics Universe. Yes. This is a comic book written by me, and I'm like, fuck it. I'm gonna, we need both of them in there.

Yes. What did you, did you have to pitch this to an editor? No, I just told the writer to write it on, I told the artist to draw it on a sign in the background. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've said too much. I've said too much already. Wow.

So just if you out there want to be up on Jordan Jesse Go continuity, Web of Venom issue one. Jordan, I want to say something right now, which is this. There's probably a lot of young people listening out there. We're very awkwardant. Yeah. Very popular with the younger generation. Gen Alpha.

Yeah. And a lot of them. Busset. Busson, they say about the show. They say it's Busson. And. No cap. And I think.

And I think that, like, a lot of them look up to both of us, of course. I mean, young people love public radio hosts. Yes. Now more than never. But I think certainly, I think a lot of the young people listen to this look up to you, Jordan. And I feel as though this is a really important lesson, which is when you get to a certain place at slash near, but at, at the top of the entertainment industry. Yes.

It's squarely at the center of the entertainment industry, that it's so important to take that power that you've accumulated. And in this case, I'm talking about you, Jordan. And use it for social good. Yes. Like not just to enrich yourself, but to do something that actually matters, you know, that's actually going to touch people's lives. You know, there's a lot of people out here who are just trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

They're just making another popcorn movie. Right. They don't care about Hurricane Katrina. Yes. Right. They don't care about Dip Dobson. Dipson. Dopson.

Justice for Dobson. Yes, justice for Dobson. Justice comes home this April. They don't know about the power of allegory. Right. And so you doing this is really going to inspire a lot of young people to grow up and become the best Theo Vaughn that they can become. Yes. You know?

That's the goal. That's the goal. And Sierra, my hope for you is that if you go to that 175th anniversary of the Harvard Lampoon, that you'll look some of those children in the eyes. And you'll say to them, I hope that one day you will buy the rights to children's hospital and put Jipson in it like Rob Cordry said he was going to and then didn't. You're right. I think, yeah, it'll probably, it'll be like, listen, kids, when you're building your own L.

for your own AI studio, that other AI will consume to make their own studios. So, so you know, Jordan, since you didn't go to Harvard, LLM is a love of lifelong learning. Right, right, right, right. When you're loving and living and laughing. Love, laugh, math. That's what I say. Then please, please, please leave a little microchip for Children's Hospital, Dib Dobson. And to be clear, when we say Children's Hospital, the television show, do not do anything for the

Children's Hospital. Everyone's already helping them. They don't need anymore. Right. Everybody who's on Celebrity Wheel of Fortune is helping these guys out. They're not sweating it, okay? Their pediatric cancer is took in care of. Right. It's more, it's the struggling TV show that serves America. Thank you. Yeah. Web of Venom. Coming in April, a pre-order your copy at your local comic book store to be up on Jordan, Jesse Go, Continental. This is absolutely incredible. I think so, too. This is breathtaking.

What a day. Man, this makes up for us not being on the cover of that Muhammad Ali versus Superman comic. It does. Finally, vengeance for us. Should we listen to some calls? Yeah, I'm just going to sit here and resent Sammy Davis Jr. for making the cut. I presume, okay, when something momentous happens to you, give us a call, 206-984 for fun, or just send us a voice memo, JJ Go at Maximum.

Fun.org. You know, it's a nice place to record a voice memo? Just sitting there in your car. Yeah. You're thinking about it for a while, then you park your car. Get out your phone, record it. I just send in an overheard to stop podcasting yourself. There you go. He practices what he preaches, ladies and gentlemen. Anyway, JJ Go at maximum fun.org is where to send it in. Here's a momentous occasion. Hello, Jordan, Jesse, and I'm going to guess the stinkest brothers. This is Renee calling from Boston. I'm calling with a momentous occasion. I'm driving to work right now, and I just passed a gasoline trailer, and the slogan for the company on the back of the trailer was be careful when passing gas. That's it. Love the show. Bye. You got to be fun.

If you're going to be in what I call the fart biz, you've got to have a sense of fun. It's nice of all our dads to write that sign, huh? That's good. Gives you a little truckle, and then hopefully, yeah, I mean, I do. I get worried passing those gas trucks. No one explosion. Oh, sure. I mean, it's a recipe for a final destination.

Yeah, I know. I don't need one of those. Or a Fasten the Furious. Yes. There's a lot of film franchises that can start by passing a gas tank. Properly. Yeah, they should do a crossover of those two, maybe. Oh.

Oh, boy. Did you just make millions of dollars? Billions. Because now they owe you money if they do it. Yeah, thanks. You set it on a podcast. Well, did you write it down in military? Oh, shit.

You should have learned this. If you had gone to the reunions, I would have known these... You would have known that you're supposed to write it down and mail it to yourself. That would be pretty fucking rad. If one of those fast and furious people

dodges something because they get a vision and then spend the rest of the movie like driving away from the final destination. Wow. It'd be such a fucking good movie. Anyway. Which one would be?

Ludacris? Yes. And his friend Tyrese. Cracking each other up. He's pretty strict. I think it's Chris Bridges when he's an actor. Oh, really? Sorry.

Excuse us. Sorry. Don't kill the message. He's not even Chris Ludacris, Bridges? He might be, but I think... I think you're right. I think I've also heard this. Oh, really?

He's pretty strict about it. He prefers to go by Chris Bridges. I was on Reddit the other day. Ooh. The sole medium through which I interact with human life in the 21st century.

That's good. And there was a... Did what you see make you feel good? There was a really... Something that made you feel good. I did. Uh-huh.

There was a really extensive discussion, an intergenerational discussion in a rap subreddit about ludicrous. Okay. And I thought, like, ludicrous is such a specific and distinctive cultural figure who is not, like, revered for the hit records that he made anymore. To younger people, he's only known as the guy from the Fast and the Furious movies. Right. He's not bad at that.

No. He's pretty good at that. Sure, yeah. But, like, also the type of rap music that he made in 2004 when he was making the greatest, you know, rap party hits of all time is, like, the opposite of what is cool rap music right now. And so they hear it and they don't even know what to make of it. Like, young people are utterly baffled by it in a way that, like, a Jay-Z song from them, they're not baffled by.

And so he lives, like he is like a space alien to them. They don't understand why he's famous or they're not against it though. That's the thing. Like it's not like we hate this, this embarrassing unc. It's like if we learned that like Liam Neeson was a famous jazz clarinetist. Yeah. Oh, really? The guy from all the, okay.

And he also is like, he was weird in his own time because he was a radio DJ before he was a famous rapper. He's done it all. So, like, he always kind of was that weird guy? I don't know. When the cast of Fast and Furious is strange for many reasons, but I think something, you know, maybe with a couple of exceptions, the people in those have not been able to be famous in anything else. I think you have the rock who kind of comes and goes.

Oh, sure. And, you know, people will always put Michelle Rodriguez in everything all the time. But everybody else, like. That said, I could not tell you one thing that has Michelle Rodriguez in it. Oh, yeah. She was in that new Dungeons and Dragons movie. Oh, yeah, another big one. She's great in that, by the way.

That was a really fun movie. That was great. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, she was in the first Avatar. She was in SWAT. SWAT? Yes, that's a good Michelle Rodriguez performance. She's great in SWAT.

Because I feel like, yeah, they can do big movies now. So it's like they can plug into another big one because it's like, the world just is great with you. So that's a very rare position to be in. You can be in a world global movie and everyone's like pretty happy about it. So I feel like they can just plug and play in other franchises. That being said, there's not a lot of other ones available. But like what is? Because I interviewed Tyrese for Bullseye.

And I interviewed him largely on the strength of him being nice to Jordan once on the Fox lot. Yeah. And he was very nice to me. He said, hey, my man looking good to me once. Wow. Okay. I think he was just on the street too. I don't think we were in a showbiz context.

Whoa. Wait, that's even crazier. I used to buy one of my first job job. I did press junkets. And this was like the height of Tyrese. So I think he saw me, kind of recognized me, didn't know where from and just said, hey, my man looking good. He knew you were important. Yeah, exactly.

But. And you were like, yeah, you're looking pretty busted, Tyrese. You look like shit. Yeah. Do a sit up, dude. Yeah, how's being the prettiest motherfucker on earth going for you asshole? Oh my God. And when I interviewed Tyrese, at some point his phone rang and it was E-40 calling to play him

his new single over the phone. Oh. And he's like, do you mind if I go? I got, I got to, I got to talk to 40. I'm going to talk to 40. I'm like, yes, please, by all means. And in talking to Tyrese, I found myself wondering whether Tyrese is an actual insane person. Maybe.

Yeah. I was fascinated by our conversation. but it took extensive editing it to bring it to a public radio level of clarity and rockability. Because, yeah, with him, I mean, he's an especially good example of, like, someone who really you don't see that much outside of Fast and Furious movies. I think, what was he promoting on Bullseye? He was in, yeah, he was in like an indie drama. Okay. That, yeah, he was like the lead in.

But it was a sort of on the line between indie, drama and like crime exploitation movie. Okay. Sort of half and half of those two things. It was all right. He's, uh, I feel, I think I saw one time I was at Universal City Walk and he did a music performance. Whoa.

And, you know, it was like kind of. At Bubba Gump's shrimp company? Yeah, I was like, and, you know, kind of like an improv. Well, I don't think, people were definitely there for the concert, but it was also like the public could see. Right. Because like ludicrous. Yeah, he's doing all things.

Tyrese was a model who actually got off a real music career. Like he had real hit records as a model who sang. Were you there for the concert? Or were you just there? No, I think I was just there.

But yeah, I was like, oh, cool. I mean, we knew who he was, obviously. So it was like, oh, wow, I didn't know that he had music at that time. I didn't know. But, yeah, I feel like he... And then every so often, like, an internet thing might pop up

of like a self-tape or something will come up and it'll be like, yeah, this guy's like pretty out there. Like it's like, but I respect like the fact that he's still doing stuff, even though he kind of hasn't made, you know? It's like, but he's still kind of passionate about it. He has his own Benny Hana at his house. I mean, that's when you know you've made it. Yeah, that's good.

Yeah, it's flipping shrimp into your mouth whenever you open. Right. Yeah, yeah. Someone's flipping shrimp in there. Scooping. Yeah. Oh man, it's Jesse's Tai Chi teacher. Dang.

Yeah. He can have an onion vulcan. whatever he wants. Yeah, that's where the Wushu swords scraping up those. Spokaneos. Flipping them in your mouth. Pretty sweet. Oh, boy.

Gabe, we got another call in there? We do, and I apologize for interrupting. But I watched the credits for Fast 6 and Fast 10 just now. Okay. He is credited as Chris quotes ludicrous Bridges. Okay, thank you for clarification. That's good. Thank God.

Hey, Jordan Jesse guest. I have a moment of shame. I'm home alone sick with COVID. and I'm also for the first time a year and a half quite seriously a horny so I am going for it and what is there but a knock on the door and I say oh shit I remember that I'm supposed to get a package delivered of fancy dresses that I have to try on because I have to wear one this weekend for an event and but I'm thinking oh I don't need to sign for it and so I just let it go because I am getting somewhere interesting and they knock again and I say oh shit shit I almost have to sign for it I can't

I can't come and then like wait a day to pick these up. Like it's it's not going to work out. I progressively turn off my very loud vibrator. I go and I answer the door. There is not a person in a uniform there to deliver some dresses to me in my convalescence, but there are two young women in long denim skirts and long sleeves who are excited to tell me about Jesus Christ of later day saints. And you know what?

I didn't even have it in me to say anything funny. I just said, sorry, I have COVID. I shut the door. And then I went and screamed into a pillow because I didn't have. of any of the things I thought I was going to get when I started the day off so far. But do you know, do you know what? Pussy's still good. Yeah, pussy's still good.

COVID's not going to get in the way. No. Great energy on that call, by the way. Tremendous energy. Wonderful. Passion, commitment, great vibes, especially recovering from number 19. Sure, yeah. You know what I mean?

I mean, I know COVID affects different people in different ways, but. Makes some people more charming. Yeah, well, I've never heard of it getting someone a whole. worn up before. That's fair. I mean, you get, for the long COVID, but they're wide COVID.

Tight COVID. Yeah. Yeah. They're all bad. They're all bad. Everything. Hmm. Say is bad.

Yeah. I mean, it's a bad show. Sure. This isn't a good program. Look, I'm on, I'm on some dried Swiss meat. That's all I have inside

my body right now. Dried Swiss. quiz meat. She should have taught the ladies about the vibrator. Oh, yeah. I bet if you're there talking about the Jesus Christ Church of Latter-day Saints, you probably don't know a lot about, you know, self-pleasure techniques. Or maybe you do, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. Make sure you should get a, who's converting who, you know? Right. Thank you. From now on, any Mormon missionaries that come to my door are getting a full our bodies ourselves. Sure. They're making them squat over a mirror. Bring a wife over.

Put a mirror on that. the ground. Let's do this. We're going to teach you a few things. Here's some hand-drawn illustrations and some very hairy muffs. Sure. It's like an old school. Yeah, just 1974. Yeah. Let's do this. I guess that still happens. People come in to knock on your door to tell you about. I don't, I haven't had any, I haven't had any Mormons, but we have a lot of, um, Seventh-day Adventist and Jehovah's Witnesses. Okay. But they, I think that they are intimidated by my house in some way.

Because I will see them gathering. I do not have a no solicitor sign on my house. And you can see into my living room from the sidewalk. Like it's not behind a giant hedge or something like that. There is a gate. There's a doorbell. I see like groups of Jehovah's Witnesses gathering. Yes.

And in my neighborhood, this is very slightly built elderly Latinos. Okay. Mostly ladies, not exclusively. I'd say two to one, but you're talking about 65-year-olds. Healthy? They're vigorous, but they're older. They're active older adults. Good, good.

You got to stay active. Getting that walking in. And they're invariably fine-boned and short in stature. These are elegant people in long skirts and little coats. And they will gather in front of my house, but then not ring the door. So you're like the where they huddle. Yeah. I'm like the, we're like the meetup point where then they then go to bother my neighbors, I think.

I had, I feel, I think it was Jehovah's Witness come by. and I didn't know what was going. It was actually, I feel like, two older Latino women and one younger. And then the younger one was sort of more, you know, the spokesperson. So then she like was like, oh, here, I wanted to show you this. I don't know what happened. I just got sucked into like watching a video on her phone for like a minute or two. So they're like, we're not doing pamphlets anymore.

We're not doing little bibles. It was, yeah, it was pretty smart video. The video was all about like, you know, we're rushing a lot. And you got to just slow down. Yeah. You got to slow down. And then I was like, oh, I'm going to feel rude being like, hey, I'm so sorry. I actually have to go because that would be me rushing.

So they kind of got me. And then I was like, I guess I got to sit through this. People are always slamming doors. Yeah, we're slamming doors. Asking others to leave. So many of people who are ugly are not Jehovah's Witnesses. Right. Yes.

Yeah. I guess if you don't watch a Jehovah's Witness video. You're probably a Nung. correlation-wise. I know. You can't argue with math. Even when it's not a religious video, someone's showing you something on your phone

and watching you react to it is so fucking uncomfortable. I could see the... And also this is about my lord. Like that being... Yeah, this is... I'm familiar with this because my daughter sometimes needs me to watch

like the trailer for Juan Tantan, the dog that saved Hollywood. I kind of want to watch that. Yeah, sign me up. Gabe throw up the trailer. I don't think we can do that. But yeah, I think, well, it's fair to say that for my daughter, Grace, Juan Tantan, the dog that saved Hollywood is a sort of godhead figure. Right, yes, sure.

I think when it is literalized. Anything can be God. Right. Yeah, I think the team that has to do it, like when I played Little League Baseball or Park League, a Mustang League Baseball, there was a kid on my team called. Philip, his best kid on the team, you know, the shortstop pitcher, all that stuff, nice kid, and his parents were Jehovah's Witnesses. And like a couple times in the neighborhood, just in the mission where I'm from, I saw him with his parents on the weekend proselytizing. Yeah, yeah. And you have not seen, and this is like he's handsome, athletic, like definitely the cool kid on our team,

you know, and you just see a child melt into just a sad nine-year-old from a handsome 15-year-old just as he has to stand there with his grandma passing out, you know, watchtowers. You know, like, oh, it was just brutal to watch a teenager have to do that. Oh, I thought you were going to say he recruited everybody because everybody loved him. Yeah, this guy's so charismatic. Yeah. But, oh, yeah, that's probably not fun. I think he probably could have recruited people.

Like Michael Jackson or something. Sure. Totally. Is that how Michael Jackson? Yeah. Oh, no, it was probably his dad. I think his dad. Probably his dad.

Oh, sure. Well, hey, let's take a little break. I've got a video on my phone I want to show you guys. It's about a pretty cool dog. And all of his... Save the certain city. And one of the Keystone cops and... I don't know what the...

I'm fascinated to learn what this is. It's a Keystone cop, Madeline Khan, like, I don't know, 17 of the greatest silent film stars, many of whom don't have a line. Wow. It's directed by an action movie director, I think. Well, this is now what I worship, so. We'll be back in just a second. second on Jordan, Jessica.

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Right. As I tend to do. Harvard lampoon alumni, Conan. Let him know. Humor Force five rules. Harvard lampoon drools. Yes. Oh, good.

I walked right into that. Slug, slugs, slugs, slugs. We are proud of our mascot. Not embarrassed of it. Walked right into that one. Walked right into it. Fair. It's all right.

Yeah, I want to know what, before we go, I want to know what your current television chef show that you're covering on. Oh, you know, we're watching NextGen Chef, which is a first season on Netflix. We're kind of in between. We're going to start Top Chef very soon, which is our flag chef. We love top chef. Oh, yeah. But in between, we kind of, this is the first time we're covering next gen chef.

It is all out on Netflix. And this is a chef show for LLMs. Yes, LLMs, MMLs. Yes, they're all young. MLMs. MLS. That's right. Yeah, they're all like young, you know, 20s to like 30 being the oldest, probably that go

to like Culinary Institute of the Arts and like battle it out there. And it's kind of sweet. But we don't even know if they're getting a second season. So I don't know if it was a success, but we loved it. What's the top not top chef? Probably like, okay, this is interesting because this year there's a new show called The Culinary Cup and it's coming out on CBS and they poached or whatever. She had already left, but Padma Lakshmi was the host of obviously Top Chef for years.

She left. Kristen Kish is the new host. Great. She got to left because she'd been there for like 20 years or something ridiculous, 20 seasons. So she then is now hosting. And Padma wanted to focus on stand-up comedy. She was doing UCB classes. Yeah.

Was she? Yeah, she was like fully in a UCB class. I think people were like signing NDAs. I got it. I'll say this about Padma Lakshmi. Yeah. I've had two like reality show celebrity people on on Bull's Eye over the years. One of them is Padma Lakshmi.

One of them is Tim Gunn. Oh. Yeah. These two people were so astonishingly compelling. Like just both of them, I don't care about their shows. I don't watch their shows. I was like, I guess they got this way on merit because they're fucking amazing. Padma Lakshmi was one of the brightest, most interesting, most charismatic people I've

ever talked to in my life. I totally believe. Yeah, I mean. I support her stand-up comedy career. That's how much I like her. Yeah, I feel like she wanted a change. She was hosting her show. But then Culinary Cup came calling, CBS's new show.

And I think is like, it's a million. prize, which is way more than like the 250 or whatever. That's a great point. Four times as much. It's great. I know. Whoa. This guy.

Yeah. So it's, it might be the new rival. And we'll see. I think like, you know, we also cover Great British Bake Off or Great British baking show as we know it in the States. That's a huge, obviously, very popular one as well. But yeah, as far as just like straight up chef competition, we'll see if this culinary Cup one might be the next to dethrone top chef.

I'm excited about this. What is the number one thing that makes one of these? shows good. Oof. I mean, you know what? I think what we love so much about Top Chef is like, oh, the stories. But no, it's really like, it's really the chefs and the contestants and they have, you know, that you get to know them through the season.

And it's not really dirty. It's not like, oh, like, you know, we're all in a house living together. And like, you stole my pillow, which it used to be for a little bit. But they really like make it. It's like they're all buddies. Yeah. They said everybody gets at least three pillows. And, you know, you really learn about their story, how they got into.

cooking, you know, their family that they're cooking for, their journey. So I feel like it's really like the new contestants. And then you get a new batch every season. So it's like never ending great stories and people. And then, you know, sometimes sometimes some people aren't so great and then they get canceled. Ooh. That happened to one of the top chef winners in the past. But yeah. Who's got the points? Who's winning the fantasy leagues? Oh, I mean, I do pretty well. Not to to tip my own horn. I think we'll see about this. Are you playing for something. I know sometimes Fantasy League

have a trophy or a punishment or something. Totally. So we do Winners Dinner. Okay. Where I've been taking out to a delicious one of my favorite Sukkaman spots in Little Tokyo

that closed down. But shout out. But yeah, we do a winner's dinner. We also had a losers' punishment, which I also was, I happened to lose right when we instated a loser's punishment, which is unfair.

But I have to cook something and then somebody will judge it. Okay. So it's TBD, but yeah. So, yeah, we do have some prizes. I'll call potma. Okay, oh, shit. No.

She'll rip me apart. Can you imagine? And I'll text guy. Okay, okay, okay, great. I know guy. Okay, perfect, perfect. Can you imagine what we can get somebody to pay to have Podma Lakshmi tear apart something that they cooked?

Probably a lot. For fucking cook dom. Yeah, sure. Millions of dollars. Wow. Well, it's always a joy to see you, Sierra Cato. The podcast program is called TV Chef Fantasy League. You can listen to it right now on your favorite podcast app.

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Probably the casting rumors will probably start immediately. Like who's going to play Dip Dobson in the MCU? Oh boy. Yeah. Probably. Rob Cordy. One of those two guys. Oh, you know what?

Maybe as he's drawn, Cardi could play him. Yeah. Oh, you got to get, okay, all right. Is Cordy already in the MCU? It seems like it would be hard for them to have made that many MCU movies and not have Cordrian some of them. He works for Shield or something. Cordrian Madrigal got to be in those, right?

Brian Husky's definitely in those. They are. They are in their comedy. I could see them acing out John Ross Bowie somehow. I don't know. I don't know. What's Seth Morris in the... Great question.

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