Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Breakfast Lobster, with Sina M Grace

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

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Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and sex and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris recovered a new Disney memory. Okay. This is actually a very controversial form of therapy.

And I want to make that clear. This is not admissible in a court of law. Nor should it be because it could lead. to false identifications. For example, saying, look, there's Daisy Duck, but it's goofy. Yeah, listen, I'm not here. I'm not here to spout psycho babble at you. I'm just here to share with you a Disney memory that I have recovered since the last time

where we talked about a trip to Disneyland. The body keeps the score. Yeah, that's something too. Yeah. Anyway. No one's mad about that on Blue Sky. Do I really know what that is? No. Should I have brought it up? Probably not. Don't know the context enough. Okay. Sorry. We got

distracted by our complex PTSD. Go ahead. As we talked about a couple, couple episodes ago where I talked about meeting the Disneyland Spider-Man and it being a wonderful experience. Although he may have been patronizing you. Yes. He may have been patronizing me. But he said I was a very special boy and I should keep at it and keep reaching for my dreams. And you know what? I've been doing that. Good for you. Since then, I have kept reaching,

I have not stopped reaching for my dreams. And you know what? I never will. Spidey. I wish that our at-home listeners could see where you're recording from, so they could just know the extent to which you're reaching for your dreams right now. That's true. The featureless Airbnb closet you're in right now.

That's right. Anyway, something we alluded to in that conversation. is that Disneyland sure has changed a lot over the years since I was a kid. A lot of new stuff. You're checking in on apps, your timing corn dogs, all this stuff. And something else that I forgot to bring up is that now there are people at Disneyland making content. There are contenters there, influence types. When you say people at Disneyland making content, are you referring to employees or visitors?

Visitors who are there making content for their personal social media. Got it. So they are like talking to the talking trash can that Matt, who from Super Ego used to be. I have not, I didn't see people talking to a trash can, but I did see a couple different types. Here's the types that I saw. Someone kind of like with their arms out, swirling around. as if to say, I can't believe my life. And then, like, they have a partner who's filming them.

Yeah. You know, kind of like how, you know, that meme of, like, Nicole Kidman after she got divorced, like, look at my life. Some people doing that to tell you what, how they can't believe their life. You have, like, family doing a dance and you worry that no one's had a vaccine. Uh-huh. Is it a type of dance that implies red-hattedness? No, no, no, no. It's just a family doing a dance, and maybe this is just me, but I look at the family doing a dance. I'm like, I think no one's been to school and I think no one's had a vaccine. These are just my thoughts. Right. But I could be wrong. I could be wrong. These could be very, these people can be lousy with the vaccines. Yeah. I hope that's true. But something about it. I don't know. Just gave me. I mean, Jordan, they could. Look, my kids don't go to school, but they're vaccinated. They could be fully vaccinated. Right. But two.

weird for school. It could be. Right. But just perfect for Disneyland dances. And to be fair, that's... Not all no-schoolers are canned good collectors. No, you're right. You're right. Yes.

The, this society is a rich tapestry. Ain't she? Some are just confusing to their teachers. Sure. So family doing a dance. Hopefully, everybody's up to date on their vaccines. Then you have like guy with a rig.

You know, like, have you seen the like... Like a steady cam? Yes. Like, have you seen the like freedom audit guys outside the post office, the guys who are taping people so they can get into a fight with cops because of free speech? Yeah, I think we've discussed that, that my friend John, the mild-mannered record dealer, was at the Eagle Rock Post Office when this happened and almost got in a fight with someone, despite being the most mild-mannered, like, experimental rock guy in the history of the world.

Listen, when I saw these guys, I'm probably less fighty than this guy. And I had a, like, let's kick these guys' asses feeling. And that's what they want. They're the worst people in the world. Yeah, it's very bad. It's very confusing. They're worse than many murderous terrorists. Sure.

Also, probably no vaccines. Or, I don't know. Who knows? But you have a guy with that type of rig that. kind of like a, you know, a chest strap for his camera and a GoPro. And I think that guy just walks around and live streams and then you watch it and pretend you're at Disneyland. That's a kind of guy. Oh. I don't know. And so, you know, you have all these influence types. And it's, you know, it's not ruining my day, but I am kind of cranky about it. I'm like, come on. What's the,

you got to, come on, can't you just, you know what? I watch one of those guys. You mentioned it, And I didn't even think of it until now. I watch one of those guys. He is always at Disneyland. I like to watch him because I like to pretend I'm in one of those very old-fashioned back braces, like the kind of with all the pieces of metal and the screws going into you and all that kind of thing. That is a fun thing to imagine. That's also, you also like Iron Lung play, right?

Exactly. Right. I know. I know the shit you're into. Yeah. So I'm kind of cranky about this. And then I come around a corner and I see these guys filming each other. And I'm like, fucking again, do we have another set of guys?

What are these guys? We have another. Can we all just? Why are we? And then I saw what was happening. And one guy was filming his friend. And the friend had one. You know the giant pickles you get at Disneyland?

Sure. The guy had a- I mean, Jordan? Yeah. Absolutely no. I do not know the giant pickles that you get at Disneyland. It's like a county fair pickle. you can get a pickle in a bag, you know.

All right. Okay. Sure. This guy, he has... Dolewip? Yeah, it's the same, you know, it's like, oh, we got to get the big pickle. Okay. This guy has a giant pickle.

He's holding it as... That's what my wife said. Don't ruin the thing. He has the giant pickle on his crotch, and he's pretending to jack it off and his friend is filming it. Oh. So, you know, I'm like, all right, that's pretty good. Go ahead and make a contest.

intent. Well, but what was the semen? I mean, maybe like pickle juice. I don't know if they could rig it to fire something. Probably not. I would guess these guys, this was kind of an impromptu thing when one guy noticed the shape of the pickle. But I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I think it was good if they had a good semen type. You think you, you think that if someone was really dedicated to Disneyland Pickle Jack content, they would. Otherwise, it needs a whole backstory about like maybe the pickle dick person is on an SSRI and is having a hard time achieving orgasm. Right. Yes. Yeah. I don't know.

Maybe this video is posted somewhere. Maybe there is an elaborate backstory to it. Yeah. But I think, but I mean, maybe this is the next step for Disneyland pickle jack content. Could this be the, you know how young people are in the newspaper? I don't. I haven't seen their videos, but I read about them in the newspaper that hits my front porch with a kethunk every morning. I don't watch videos, but I read descriptions of them in a hard copy newspaper.

Yeah, I had an article about how there's so many strollers outside of their restaurants and Park Slope or whatever. Anyway, I know that there's a thing where groups of young people get together and then they run through a Scientology place. Yeah, Scientology speed run. That's pretty good. I think that is pretty good. They could be pretending to jack off while they do it. I do like that. I mean, sometimes I feel bad for the Scientologists,

just the regular, the ones that are just walking around in the little outfits because I'm like, oh, geez, come on, buddy. They've maybe had a better way out of this whole year in. Yeah, they've got to be a better way out of this whole year in. Sure. Yeah. But anyway, I do think that that is, if, look, if you're going to run like crazy through something, Church of Scientology place,

a pretty good idea. But what I'm wondering is, could the new that be jacking things off that aren't penises at Disneyland? Or at the various other Disney resorts, Disney World. Sure, yeah, Disney Sea and Japan. Yeah.

Yeah, these are all places you can pretend to jack off, something that's not a penis. Yeah. Maybe you take it to Universal Studios. Ooh, I bet they would love that at Nutsbury Farm. Can I tell you, Jordan, we had a Judge John Hodgman show the other day here in Los Angeles. And I'm like, well, I live

in Los Angeles. I should make like a little joke video about Los Angeles to plug my Los Angeles show because that's the only way that you can get people. It sounds cute. See anything. And I wrote a little thing and I'm like, oh, but I've got to be in Los Angeles to do this. Our offices in downtown Los Angeles full of people, full of stuff. I went out on the the sidewalk and talked into my phone

walking down the street for 70 seconds. I felt like I was going to die, Jordan. Yeah. Talking into my phone in public for 70 seconds nearly killed me. I couldn't, I don't have any idea how someone, I can't even understand how somebody who does it for a living can bring themselves to do it, much less someone who's doing it for funsies. You know what I mean?

Like a streamer that's a professional, that blows my fucking mind. But, like, somebody walking around talking to it and they're just going to post it and just a person they know from elementary school is going to like it on Facebook. I can't even talk selfies in public. Sure. Oh, why don't you? You, you, come on. You do lots of, you're, you're, you're, you're, I kind of do it every time. I have to like, it's like fucking talking yourself into jumping into a cold pool.

I hate it every time. But you do it. You've got, probably gotten used to it at this, but you're good on social media. You do a lot of, you do face for the alga. though you do the, you know, you do your thing. I try and do it in my house, though. Gentlemen, gentlemen protest too much. You're good at it.

I do it in my house. You like it. You're like, yeah. I know, on the street. I think that's a, that's a generational thing. I think maybe we just like, we're, you know, we just missed always online a little bit. And also, I think we're, we're also too young to be a weird uncle with a selfie stick. Sure.

Yeah. Like, I think if we were five years older, we would be walking around with that selfie. selfie stick in our nation's national parks like it was nothing right uh but hey we have a young person here we have a young person here to get to get a prospect some perspective our guest is a legendary comic writer and artist yeah that's right i i bumped you up i figured what what what what tier should i put seen a grace in i i put it in legendary legendary i went with legendary uh he's worked for Marvel, DC, Image Comics. That's your big three. Plus, boom. Boom. Working for boom sometimes, too. Sometimes called the big fourth. Yeah. I'm allowed to react. Ghosted in L.A. You could have been

reacting this whole time. His most recent book, Cina, it's great to have you on. Welcome to Jordan Jesse Go. Welcome to the program. Hello, hello. So happy to be here. Tell me how you feel about talking into a phone in public or taking a picture of yourself in public where you have to pose. I don't love being out in the while. You're like, hey, guys, I found the hottest new spot. I just did brunch at the Universal Hilton or whatever. My boyfriend got a free room and he loves buffets and hotel rooms. And we were having margaritas in this like weird corridor.

Well, you were saying all the stuff about Disney and I was like, I've got stories too. I should have brought one of my my my my myriad Disney sweaters. I'm not even a Disney gay. I just, I go crazy at theme parks. But you say, let's, let's,

what's a myriad? What are we talking? Two. I mean, two is a lot. One's just a standard gray Mickey, you know? Yeah,

you can wear it to dinner. That's classy. Yeah, you can go to Chaconis. I don't know. That's what I had off the top of my head. And then the other one is like a, like a,

like a, you know, baby pink, whatever, and it's Christmas and all the characters are like Christmasing and there's the castle and I always forget the girl's name. I call her Dina Duk. She's there.

Yeah, Dina Duck. Dina Duck is there? It's Adina Duck. It's Adina Duk. Sorry. Daphne? What is it? It's Adina Howard.

That's Donald's, it's Donald's sidepiece. Dira? What is her name? I'm talking about Daisy Duck? Yes. Dira or Daphne to me? But Dira is there too. And I wear, I like to tell you.

wear that in May. I like to wear my Christmas pink. Really fuck with Disneyland. I mean, you're really giving yourself a cultural context when you wear that in May. You're really relying on others to understand that you're doing a thing and not just being that guy. I think that's my entire life. And I think that's why if I have to, I would walk around with a camera and talk. I don't, but I could. Like, you have a cool mustache and I think that will really help a lot in that effort. I'm like a sexy viltramite. Um, foreshadowing.

But I'm not, you know, it's dicey territory is what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. People don't know when I'm being ironic or serious and sometimes I don't know either. Um, so that's half the fun, but. So how does, when you were at the brunch, the Hilton brunch, did you, were you like, did you feel compelled to hey guys? Is that where we were going with this?

I almost did. I almost did. because the buffet, I don't know if you've ever done it. Here we go. We're influencing right now. The buffet at the Universal Hilton. Tell me more. It's so freaking crazy.

It's like three different rooms. It's like crazy rich Asian style. They have like a boba bar. They have this. They have like a bow station. And I typically don't, I can't, like I have stomach issues and I don't really do a lot of breakfast foods. And so it's like, you know, my boyfriend's like getting himself the crab legs, the lobster, the bacon, the eggs.

And I'm like, oh, where's the banana? And, but then they had like... They got breakfast lobster? They got breakfast lobster. And it's stuffed with stuff. I don't know. I made a joke. I was like, it's stuffed with Fontina.

I don't know. It was brownish and whitish, and Fontina's not that. But, yeah, but then they had a whole room for things I could eat. You know, things that just go down easy, steamed vegetables and whatnot. Yogurtes? Parfets, oatmeal. Ooh. Yeah.

So they have a room. So they have three rooms. rooms, and one of those rooms is for people with sensitive tummies. Sensitive tummies. It's just anything before lunch is a little like, my stomach needs to like catch up to me. So yeah, I'm not great at brunch, but I, there was a part of me that was like, I should do like one of the speed videos where you like are going, you know, you take four minutes, but it's eight seconds. Yeah. Of just everything they offer.

But the real truth of this is we had to wait for our wristbands and because I was like, I don't. really want to eat anything. You need a wristband for the buffet? I think it was because it was through his work. I don't know if you need it. He works at a wristband company. Yeah, yeah. It's Phoebe Buffet's wristband company.

Right, yes. He works at the wristband factory. I know you, I know you don't want to like, you know, I know you don't want to say too much, but I know that he works at the prime rib carving station. You guys, this is recording. I can't. He works at the wristband factory. but yeah no anyway but I actually ended up leaving before we got in because I was

we did the mini buffet where I had like watermelon with man they had a micro buffet did his work did his work provide buffet wristbands yeah but they ran out and so then they had to get the second batch of wristbands and at that point I was like I had watermelon with Manchago that's enough till 3 p.m. so I said I'd rather work on no this they wrap the watermelmelming with Manchago? Or was it? It was a stack.

With like a crumbled pistachio. This is classy. This is pretty serious. Jordan White was go get some crab legs. Man, I'm, uh, Sina, unlike you, I am such a breakfast man. I am to the point where I, I now, if I don't eat by 7 a.m., uh, my day is ruined and I should probably just go back to bed that I get so mad. I would love to roll up on this thing, 6.55 and then just start scooping.

crabs on the plate. Get that custom. We'll live stream it. Oh, yeah, sure. Hey, listen, if I can get it, I, you know, I don't like to do this. If I can get access to the Hilton Bar, I'll say, hey, guys. Hey, guys. Yeah.

Get ready with me? Yeah. To eat breakfast. I am not a huge breakfast lover in terms of pancakes, et cetera. I don't hate them. I like, I like one of these people's like, oh, I love breakfast food or whatever. But that having been said, I would eat lunch at any time. I'm looking at my watch.

Like, I'm ready to eat lunch the second I get up, I'm good to go. All meals are dinner to me. Yeah. I want to eat a dinner-level meal at lunch. I want to eat a dinner-weight lunch at breakfast. I did it the year. We did this last year, and I did, I think that's what I ended up doing, was like, just having myself kind of like, you know, like a nice, nice kind of thin cut of stuff.

steak, Korean style, I think. Okay. Yeah, and then I had rolls. I had rolls at like 10.30 at 11 a.m. Koreans will eat a very ritesy piece of beef cut thin, like a very fatty piece of beef cut thin sometimes. Yeah, I can do that over bacon. That'll stay down. Yeah.

Steaking eggs. There's a breakfast, Jordan. That's a nice breakfast. Listen, we're talking about the Hilton Buffet. Yeah, of course we're going to want to go there. but here's what people are screaming at their podcast machines right now. You got three noted banana slugs on the podcast. Oh, yeah, glorp, glorp, glorp.

Of course, they all went to the same college. We want to hear about what Sina did at UC Santa Cruz, but first we want them all to sing the UC Santa Cruz fight song. Okay, let's all do it. Oh, we hear the guys who went to the... We went to you see Santa Cruz. Oh, we're the guys who went to UC Santa Cruz. Beautiful.

Some good science departments and everything. We did the other stuff. Plus a gorilla cadavernaver. A gorilla cadaver. Let's find out more about that. I think in the colleges that didn't have names, the number ones, like eight, nine, ten, or whatever. So the, UC Santa Cruz's residential college system. So it's relatively small for a big public school, but it's still subdivided into residential colleges.

Yeah. Where you spend the first year or two, or in my case, three years until they said I couldn't stay for a fourth year of your. college experience. In the like subdivisions or whatever. Yeah, I was, uh, yeah. Like to me, I'm like, oh, that was X-Men Red, X-Men Blue or, you know, whatever. But I was Stevenson. X-Force or, uh, X-Factor.

Right, right, right. Alpha flight. Stevenson was, uh, Stevenson was the college of the original Sound of Young America co-host Matthew Dawes, who co-hosted for one or two weeks before his class schedule changed. But people... He called it Stevie High. He was known as Stevie High.

Oh, I like that. Because it was like an extension of high school. And but people, like, the real fans are like, hasn't been the same since Matt Dobbs left. That was when the show was great. That's, I mean, it's okay now, but... Do you still get letters? Yeah, hard copy.

People send hard copy letters. Damn it. Wait, so who had a gorilla cadaver? I never, I was there four years. I never saw a gorilla cadaver. I never saw one. but I was told, you know, somehow I made friends with one of the ones in the 8, 9, 10s, and that was more like science and medical focused.

And they said that, like, underground, there were, like, animal cadavers and there was a gorilla cadaver. And, I mean, listen, I'll believe it. I didn't smoke weed till I was 25, so I believe anything that I experienced before. Yeah, it wasn't a weed, weed hallucination. No. You know those weed, you know, when you smoke weed and you just, like, see a bunch of hallucinations. So, like, I think at some point, actually, I think right around when we were in college, 20 years ago, 20 to 25 years ago,

UC Santa Cruz realized it got like ranked, you know, number one party school and stuff. And this was because they were giving a lot of points for doing mushrooms and not a lot of points for dangerous binge drinking. Right. So, like, it ended up ahead of your Arizona states. your Florida states or whatever. And there was a big effort to change the reputation of U.C. Santa Cruz and make it more serious. And what they did was they boost it. Instead of, they knew that they wouldn't get, they couldn't get away with eliminating all of

the UC Santa Cruz bullshit. Because people would flip out and lose their minds. Like the cows, they have to keep the cows in the long. So they decided they were going to water it down by adding a lot of people who, who would take classes. Science students take most of their classes in like 400-person lecture halls. Yeah. So they're cheaper and they're serious.

And so they added a bunch of colleges with just numbers instead of names. And they put all these new people there and also apparently this gorilla cadaver. Where in the timeline were you from the transition between no grades, just assessments and some grades? because I was in the middle and I was hybrid. So you could take some classes for pass no pass. And then the rest you could do ABCD. I think we could choose if we wanted one or the other. Yeah.

And they introduced that, I think, like, when I came in. Like it went from all narrative evaluation to introducing grades. Because I think they realized that like all the narrative evaluations would start with. John did very good in the class. and that meant B, you know. So they started giving the option because they said they was for people who wanted to transfer to graduate schools and needed a great point average. Yeah, yeah.

I was, you could take a quarter for pass-no-pass, and I made the stupid decision. I was like, I'll take all the classes I don't want to take, like the science and math. And then I just got so dangerously close to not passing because I was like, well, I don't have to go today, and I can wing it. And then it's every time I was like, what are you doing? doing this is statistics. I don't know how to wing statistics. And I don't know how to cheat on statistics tests. So, yeah, that was advice for any listeners. Take the hard ones for a great. Oh. I mean, also, they don't do that anymore, right? It's all gone now. I think it's all letters.

I don't even think there is any. I think you see Santa Cruz. No, I mean, I think what you have to do to graduate is capture and kill a gorilla. Yeah, I think they just, if you apply to use Santa Cruz, they just send you right down the street to Cal State Monterey. They're like, they got an aquarium? Just find a gorilla on the aquarium. Over there. Can I tell you you're there to catch the seals? Can I tell you guys that gorillas eat seals?

Yes, Jesse. Some UC Santa Cruz adjacent news? Oh, yeah. That'd be great. Okay. I just, somebody shared this with me on a blue sky the other day. Well, okay. So first of all, I just want to say that the seal is fine.

I just want to say the seal is fine. nothing bad happened to the seal. The seal was a mildly surprised, but that's it. Now, Heidi Klum's husband? Yeah. You see, how's he doing? Well, one bad thing happened to him. I don't know what it is, but it's left his mark on his face.

This is an article from Surfer magazine. Okay. Surfer.com. Better be able to sleep after this. And it's written by Dashel Pearson. He's the editor-in-chief. They got the big go-hoon on. this story. All right, I'm ready. I'm going to skip the headline just so you can get the full

flavor of the text. Vile behavior spread across the internet yesterday as scenes of a man throwing a large rock at a monk seal on Maui began to circulate. The man was reportedly found following the incident and some citizen justice was issued. He got what he deserved, the video says he threw a big ass rock at a sea lion sick and proceeded to say i'm rich i can pay the fines on top of that he shoved my girlfriend meanwhile an unidentified gentleman begins wailing on him watch here wow that's uh how have you seen the whaling jessie so w a i n g i imagine yeah that'll be a i l i n g i imagine yeah that'll be a w a i l i and g I went ahead and took a look at this video. Yeah.

Yeah. This man is, I mean, I'm going to show this man from behind to Sina. And you're going to tell me, this is a guy that goes to Hawaii and throws a rocket to seal, right? Yeah. Like, that's what we have a picture of here. Yeah, we legally can't show you, but I can agree. I can attest to that.

And, you know, and then he goes to the unite the right rally afterwards. It's this guy. He throws this rock at this seal. And then you just hear this. voice of the lady and she just goes hey you just threw a rock

and a sea lion I got that on video dude you can't be doing that and then he goes but did she also have the camera on her no no only on him and it looks like preemptively filming this guy because she thought he was

about to do some asshole shit I don't know it looks like a fucking Sasquatch video like very low quality video this whole thing. I mean, you, Sina, you saw the picture of the man. This is not a high resolution image. You can see what's happening, but... It's not a high resolution man either. You know what I mean? No, exactly. Thank you. He could be a naturally low-res man. So, and the screen is covered in text. So this is like

an Instagram video, TikTok video, and the screen is covered in text from the like local semi-news outlet that published this video, right? Like, this is, you know, uh, you know, shit going down on Oahu.com only they don't have their own website. It's at shit going down

on a Wahoo or whatever. And so the screen's covered in text and you see the rock throw. You see the woman who's probably

the girlfriend of the man entered the picture. She looks pretty good in a bikini. I'm not going to lie to you guys. I mean,

I haven't been to the beach in a long time. I haven't seen any bikini babe. So maybe I'm just, you know, I'm just like I just have that like a Uga built up inside me.

Sure. You know. Plus it's low resolution. You can't really tell. Everybody looks good low res. She looks like the cool world girl. Yeah. She looks like she keeps on the cool world girl.

Oh yeah. She's like this the whole time. Yeah. She's sort of a Jessica rabbit type. Anytime I have to post a selfie, I, I filter it through a PlayStation 1. Because I look great. I look great. I look great.

I look great. low-poly. That's how I really... I say, put it in 4D boxing for me. Yeah. Run that. Yeah. Okay. So you see the guy's... You see the guy kind of turn and go like, but you can't quite hear what he's saying.

You could only hear the girl go like, you just do a rock and a sea lion? Sick. It's obviously, it's a harbor seal. Yeah. And he goes like, and then it cuts just to the screen of the text. And then it cuts to the guy again from behind he's at the top of like

a beach access trail and he's reaching for the doorknob of the little gate on the beach access trail and then just this wiry dude with no shirt on just comes in and the only thing you could say is he gets wailed on

hell yeah like this dude wails on him it is a fucking tornado of whaling there is no order to it but this guy is the guy is the guy that is doing the whaling is small but yoked. Dope. Uh,

this guy is a very, look, talk about beach bod. This guy's got a V, V-shaped torso. You saw that. You saw that in 4K. Yeah.

For some reason, that was 4K, but the other guy was, yeah, the one guy is in 4K and the one guy looks like he's beta max. Sure. He's coming around from the sides in circle punches. They're going,

wop, wop, wop, wop, like he was trying to start up a tornado in a soda bottle or something. Oh yeah, it's a classic science experiment. This will get him down. It's possible I know more about science fairs than fights.

Sure. If this doesn't get him, the baking soda volcano will. This dude gets wailed on so fucking hard. He just wail on him and wail on him and wail on him. And then I got so excited, I got so excited about this video. I opened up the comments because there's 4,059 comments. boy now. The top one is people in Maui are so nice.

He ran to help him with that gate. And then somebody goes, violence is never the answer except sometimes like this. Two scoops. Well done. Two scoops? I don't think I've heard two scoops before. Does that mean like well done? I like two scoops.

This is so satisfying to watch. The rage of a thousand ancestors was in the fists of that young man. Mama Earth needs more warriors like him. Well done, prayer hands. This is better than, these are better comments than like watching a whatnot comic book auction. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I just discovered those and those are crazy comments too. Cina, can I ask you a question? Yeah, please, consent. What are those? What are those? What are these? Heavy naturals. Yeah, I was talking about your jugs.

Let me read one more. Then I want to talk about these auctions. Maui Boy Fitness. He commented, oh, man, this made my day. Heart, whoever brother is, let's hide his info, but also let me know on a side so I can Venmo him some money. Yeah. Can we... Orchid, laughing.

That is not AI. That is a human being. AI could never. AI could never. AI could never. AI could never. It was full human. Multiple people suggest they show this video on incoming flights to Hawaii.

Just listen. Have fun, but just don't mind your peas and cues or a guy will come out of nowhere. and start wailing on you. Okay, same. Yeah, someone tried to explain What Not auctions to me, and I spaced out, but I am, I realize that it's part of, like, the new comic book economy. Can you explain these things? What Not is a live stream auction?

I guess so, yeah, never ask me to explain any new trends in comics. Okay. You know, because I'm over here being like, well, remember those old Archie panel? Herb Trippy. Anyway, that's not really. You're talking about when Archie visited the teen skiske. The Los Angeles Public Library. Yeah, we all remember that.

That's a classic, yeah. Nice pivot, Sina. But, no, yeah, What Not's like live stream auctioning, and my friend just, like, got addicted and was on it and being like, I want to buy something. Do I buy The Wonder Woman drawn by Terry Dodson and written by Jody Picoult? But, like, there were also, you know, live comments happening. And the one that I can remember off the top of my head was like,

someone was like, man, this is one goaded page. And it's like, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. looking at like $1 $1 comics that will... People are goading too many things these days. Yeah. So that's... I'm sorry, I wish I had more.

I didn't think I'd talk about this, but... You know what? I'm fine with people glazing. People are doing too much complaining about glazing. I think there's a perfectly appropriate amount of glazing. There's just too much goading. Too much... You say, yeah, okay.

You're fine with glazing. How do you feel about gooning? You know I left a goon, baby? Yo. You know? That's why you brought me on tonight. Wow. Okay.

Gooners. Get gooning because we got a legend. Cina, you... Legendary gooner. Sina, you mentioned you didn't smoke any weed until you were 25. You were probably well graduated from UC Santa Cruz. Did you get up to any Santa Cruz bullshit, though? We're talking hacky sack. We're talking drum circle.

We're talking... I licked a banana slug. Whoa. That's the classic. I never did that. I licked a banana slug. I would go hiking. I'd lick a banana slug.

Do they have hallucinogenic? properties? No, they just numb your tongue. Oh, well, that's probably pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, you know, to touch this, you're about to eat to eat something gross. Oh, I should have gone to the Indian restaurant, the spicy Indian restaurant after. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm an idiot. All right, I got to get my time machine. Yeah. Go back to college just for that. Or you know what? Get on a greyhound. Yeah. You're still, you still got a shot this thing. I just went to the mystery spot for the first time. I still haven't done it. It sucks. Don't go. Yeah, it's kind of dumb, right? Yeah, it's pretty dumb. Yeah, I never

fell for a lot of it. This is a, I'm no anding. I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, but. Did you, uh, mostly just made me want to barf. Did you do first rain, the nude run around campus? No, but I will admit, I took pictures of my friends. Okay. Which is like, I, you know what I mean? Like, it's like,

that's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the college without compromise. Yeah, if that was the, if that's the thing that comes out about me at college, like, great. fabulous, you know, that I didn't do anything crazy. I didn't go to any of those. Wait, I have a, we don't have to answer the question, but I asked a group of friends a

question that was very fun and uncomfortable. If you were like, gun your head and even if you say no, they like stick you with a shot, you got to do it because you're susceptible after this shot. If you had to go to like one problematic party and you have to participate in it, which one would you go to? Like Antibillum South. Arabian Nights. Oh, I mean, I got to say it's probably stole the koi from the koi pond for MTV.

Oh, yeah. That was the scandal when we were going there to see now. You're a little younger than us, so maybe you missed that. But there was some guys in... It's hard being 11. In a night, you don't look a day over 10. There was some guys, there was a one-season MTV show called Frat Life that took place at UC Santa Cruz. and one of their antics was like stealing a koi from the koi pond and like eating,

like cooking it and eating it. And, yeah, I know. And they went to jail. They went to jail. Because we were, it was cool, right? They went to jail for like six months or nine months or something. Oh, you know what did happen is a friend of mine got caught using Napster or Kazah on the college internet and got like a 40-page document where he was like clocked and he got fined and everything.

Was he downloading koi? He was uploading porn. I don't know what he was. It was probably like a bright eyes album that everyone was downloading off of him. Corky and the juice pigs, but it was labeled tenacious D. Sure. Yeah. To answer your question, Sina, is Edward Forty Hands problematic?

Is that like insulting to the 40 hands community that people would like, you know, this is my culture. Get out of this and not get clipped. Yeah. That's fine. But wait. So you see that's where you duct tape 40 ounce small liquor bottles to you. your hands and you have to drink them all to take them off or something.

Let's just say that. Let's all of us get out of this conversation safe. I'll do, I'll do a real one. Pimps and hose. It has to be, it has to be like, it has to be like. But I can be positive about sex work. That's my angle. That's how I do it.

I do the pimps and hose party, but I'm really like positive towards sex workers. I'm telling them that it's real work. I'll give mine. Mine would be Cholo, so I could be Chola. Like I want like I want like big hoop earrings I want door knockers Would you have a script Your name and script in the

In the earring or yeah Or or something like like this is I mean like deliciosa you know like something Ridiculous I'd go all in and that that's what I would do just because I I would like to have that picture for me of me looking that ridiculous I'm probably five years young for the abs like I was a I was little at the peak. Like, I'm going to, if we say the peak is 1991, I'm making that up, I was 10. And so, you know, it was not accessible, not directly accessible to me.

However, as I was becoming an adult man, as I was going through my changes, Jordan. Yes. Your male changes. It was all that lay within my line of sight. Yeah. And so to this day, it's not a big part of my life, but to this day, just if I just see a lady who has outlined lipstick, who has big gold hoop earrings with her name written in baseball script in it. If I see a girl wearing guerrilla. cut Ben Davis cackies.

I become, I have an involuntary erection because I imprinted on it like a baby bird, but for sex. Like the way that some people are horny for the characters from Disney Robin Hood.

Yeah. Oh yeah. It's that but Cholas for me. Yeah, yeah. Because that was who was around. Yeah. All the babes, all the babes in my neighborhood were Cholas, so. And I'm gay and saw that and I was like, I want to be her. So I would, you know, it's like, okay, get into my head. Okay, I'll do it for a night. So, Cina, is that why you're always washing those lowriders? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, hold on. I have a

low rider I need washed. Let's, should we take a break and then come back for a little bit more? I'm going to open up my Instagram and watch the main type of video that Instagram feeds me now. It's just where a guy with one of those little phone microphones goes around and at car shows and shit and says, what's your favorite oldie? We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Go. It's Jordan Jesse Go. I am Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy, detective. Hey, if you want to get up on the Jumbotron sometime, Maximumfund.org slash Jumbotron.

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That's going to set you back a pretty penny. Shah ha ha ha. Speaking of what we're up to, Jordan, which is not what we were speaking of, but, you know. June 11th, Judge John Hodgman is in Boston, Massachusetts, or specifically Brookline, Massachusetts. At the Coolidge Corner Theater, this is a former movie theater, now multi-purpose theater that John worked at in high school. Hey, cool. We're going to be joined by the one and only Mr. Eugene Merman. Not bad.

That's a good. Okay. That's a good-threatening traffic accident that he was saved from by the governor of New Hampshire. That's a true story. Wow. Cool. And her security detail. Well, his security detail, I don't remember.

I think her. Women can be governors of New Hampshire, too. Women can save Eugene Merman as well. Yeah. Anyway, that's June 11th. Go to maximum fun.org slash events. Jordan, all the internet has been talking about

is bit. dot lee slash cool garf. Jesse, some wild stuff has been happening in the world of bit. dot ly slash cool garf. Of course, that's the website you go to

to order a signed in the mail copy of Baby Garfield number three, the adorable comics adventure that features a story from me and Eisner, winner 10 fam about baby garfield going to the beach for the first time and you should and yes you should order it jordan you should order it online because i'll tell you why i went to the i went to the

comic book store they were sold out of number three all they was number two and i said no i don't want baby garfield number two i'm here for baby garfield number three but jesse baby garfield no three not out yet i believe it comes out on june fifth or six one of those days so here's what you were doing by going to bit.Ly slash cool garf, you're pre-ordering your copy. Got it. The good folks at Golden Apple Comics will ship it to you in the mail. Guess what fucking happened? I went up and talked to a guy at the counter of a real comic book store and asked for baby

Garfield for no reason at all, apparently, because it wasn't even out yet. I could have just gone to bit. L.Y slash Coolgarf. Okay, what else happened? That's true. June 10th. It's out June 10th. And thank you, Jesse.

Thanks for getting into these comic books I work on. That means a lot to me that my friend checks. He's out. A lot of people I don't know. I love to go get them. People I know don't like, you know, anyway, thank you. I don't enjoy them. I don't care for him.

No, that's okay. Yeah. Too violent. I just don't like the idea of grown men wearing little outfits. I understand. I get it. And thank you for buying them despite your moral objection. Here's what happened.

Bit.ly slash cool garf. Everybody wants this thing. Everybody wants it signed and shipped to them. It's sold out online. And the people are flipping out. are like, there's no more of this thing. I'm, I could get, sure I could get a non-signed copy, but who wants that, you know? Here's what I did.

I called Golden Apple Comics here in L.A. and said, people are banging down my fucking door, going to bit.ly slash cool garf and not finding anything. You got to order some more of these things. So they did. This is a finite number. I'm not going to make this call again. When they're out, they're out. There's a one-time call.

One-time call. going to be these they're they're they're busy over there you already used it up regis isn't going to let you make another call exactly no more calls uh so I think so don't wait bit dot LY slash cool garf if you want that comic and also I will be at a couple of cons coming up but before the comic comes out so I won't have it there to sign for you I'll be at galaxy con in Nashville May 29th through 31st and at the Toronto Comic Arts Festival in Toronto June 6th and 7th.

Jesse, that's a fucking free con. That's free. Wow, that's a couple cool towns too. It's at 50 Carlton Street. So come on down to 50 Carlton Street in Toronto. Galaxy Khan in Nashville, that's at the convention center. You've got to pay to get into that. It's still going to be a lot of fun.

And at Toronto, you have to use PayPal. So, you know, get the PayPal app. And I just want to mention, I'm not going to be in any cons this summer. I'll be running a few cons this summer, though. Oh, like a long cons, like a fake casino type stuff. In short, I do short cons to where you go in and you ask for change, but then you go through a whole thing and then, you know, you walk out more than you came in with. And I'm going to be...

But you have a bunch of, you have a bunch of Bibles. You have a trunk full of Bibles. Yeah, I can have a trunk full of Bibles, but it turns out, Jordan, they're just copies of Lonesome Dove. I sell you, I sell you a Bible. You open it up. It's this intergenerational. Western saga.

Boy. Anyway. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Go. La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La It's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris Boy Detective. And I'm Sina Grace, heavy naturals. I like that the thing that the thing that I like,

about the article guys, is that they brought in the editor and the chief. And the editor-in-chief is like, it is my prerogative to write the sentence. Meanwhile, an unidentified gentleman begins wailing on him. I think the editor-in-chief was like, I'm so miserable. Please let me write that. He was so tired of fucking copy-editing shitty articles by surfers. He wanted to point to that and be like, that was me. You know what? When I was the editor, the director of the KZSC News at UC Santa Cruz, there was this surfer dude who was on my news team.

I can't think of what his name was. He was real fucking handsome. It was really something else. He was just the handsomest surfer bro ever. I was like, what are you doing here, dude? He was nice enough. I just couldn't figure out what his angle was. Anyway, everybody had to write a story.

He just wrote a story about just surfers kicking the shit out of each other. that really blew my mind. I was like, what? What are surfers doing? He's like, oh, yeah, holding each other's heads underwater. Like, is it a locus? Blue Crushmeet Sin City? Oh, honestly.

The hard-boiled world. Sina, you could sell that to Peacock now. I can get Peacock on the phone. And we can... Let's do it. Gabe Patchen... We'll make a comic in 20 minutes. Gabe Patch and Peacock tell them that miniature wife is canceled

and that we have a new show. Oh man Jordan I've spent the last six weeks All I've been thinking about Is an imagined rivalry That lives only inside my head Between the miniature wife

And the sheep detectives Ooh That's like And then It's a Godzilla versus Kong of our age I'm walking past the bus stop The other day Yeah

Now miniature wife That lives on the side of the bus Here in Los Angeles Yeah Every bus The side of every bus in Los Angeles has the miniature wife, played by Elizabeth Banks, on top of a train that is, I guess, a tiny toy train? Because she's way bigger than the train, but she's miniature.

So it's hard to say how big the train is, but apparently very small. Anyway, she's riding around this train, and then it just says, their marriage is great. There's just one small problem is what it says. Yeah. You know what the problem is, of course. She's infertile. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She could never bear children. So that's going around.

That would be great if he was just fine with her size. The size is not a problem for him. He's just like, I want to have a biological kid that's mine. Then I'm walking past the bus stop. That's where the sheep detectives post him lives. He's sedentary. Now, first of all, both of these things have been well received. that's perhaps the most incredible part of both of these things.

Jesse, I've been well received. I've seen the sheep detectives. I had a blast in sheep detectives. Okay. So I'm walking past sheep detectives. This is a movie where fucking Wolverine, I don't even know what's going on this.

I saw a preview for it. I can tell you what it is, but it's very well received. So I bet my friend Jordan had a blast there. It seems, I guess it's good. It seems crazy that it would be good. But it makes sense. And I walk past this thing.

Craig Mason wrote this movie. Yeah, former Jordan Jesse Go guest, Craig Mason. Past Jordan Jesse Go guest, Craig Mason wrote the sheep detectives. Who wrote miniature wife? Kurt Anderson? I don't know. Steve Agee probably wrote it. Fuck.

Yeah. Guy that's incredible. Craig Mason wrote the sheep detectives and Chernobyl. Now that's a resume. That's a resume. He's like that guy. that was like the nerd guy on Buffy and then won an Academy Award

for his writing on what was it the way way down or whatever and then he directed those Hunger Games movies. Oh, I don't know about this guy, but he was one of the I do know the evil nerds from Buffy. I didn't know that they went on to have screenwriting. The shortest one has won an Academy Award and he like also co-created what was

it, Empire or something? Crazy. And he was just the little dweeb that almost shot Sunnydale High in season three episode 17 year shot. Oh my God. Um, well, Life is a rich tapestry. No Buffy fans here. You know, life is a rich.

I know the episode. I know what episode you're talking about. So one guy from Buffy, I think, was English. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Talking about Giles. Yeah. The Fulgers dude or whatever.

Yeah, that guy. Who wears little glasses? Maybe an issue with the sheep detectives. It's a very enjoyable film. Not a perfect film. I'd see it. I'd watch it. It's not perfect for $125 million?

dollars. I'm sorry. They spent a hundred twenty-five million dollars on the sheep. You should see how realistic these sheep are. These are like... Do they talk? They do talk. With celebrity voices. Celebrity voices. Norm McDonnell is dead. Why are they still making talking, talking animal movies? No, they've used AI to revive Norm McDonald's to do the voice of eight different sheep. One of my daughter's favorite things that do to me is just list various movies that Norm MacDonald agreed to do a voice of a talking animal in after he lost everything he had gambling?

Just like, yeah, they'll give me 10 grand. Okay, go ahead, Jordan. An issue with the sheep detective is that some actors are doing British accents and maybe shouldn't be. There are some high school play level, what's all this then-Govna British accents in this film, which is very enjoyable. we just watched the lady from Shanghai for our new show TBW to be watched which is exclusive to members of maximum fun if you want to listen to it go to maximum fun dot org slash join JJ Go or be a member already thank you for being a member already and lady from Shanghai is a movie written directed by and starring the great Orson Wells who does just a fucking how would you describe this like it even to even to call it an oh tut tut tut irish accent like it's beyond fucking yeah it's like a spotty lepricron like it's not even a consistent lepricon accent it's a maybe has never heard an irish accent i don't know how he would have cobbled together because you can tell that's what he's

trying to do this film i think we both liked a lot this is a very yeah it's a good very enjoyable where in his career was this movie this is sort of in the middle so this is like he's was he was a little bit starting to tailspin out after the, after the great triumph of Citizen Kane. So he made Citizen Kane. He made The Stranger and then I think the next one that he made was this movie. So he was in a space where people were like, yeah, good idea. And people were like, it was like he was monomaniacal and he was still a movie star. People weren't really sure about him directing movies, but he was married to Rita Hayworth, and she was the biggest star at the studio, and he offered to make a movie for her because specifically he was

doing a stage production of around the world in 80 days, and he needed $55,000 to get the costumes out of Hawk. And you just had that, or did you, did you just know that before TBW? No, I looked it up. I looked it up for TVW. That's the kind of, this is the kind of chess night you get when you listen to TBW and if you can't listen to it you go to Maximumfund.orgal class join and you listen to it. Oh, Jordan, if you'll be having a chestnut then I'll be

eating it. Oh, oh, the French. Oh, the French. Oh, to tour. Yeah, it's not even It's wild. We got some calls to listen to, right, Jesse? Yeah, I think we probably do. Gabriel, do we have calls to listen to? Danny Strong. Wait, which fellow? Oh, the fellow from Buffy.

Yeah. There you go. There's also a Gilmore girl. Oh. Fun fact toy. Gabe is one of these people, Peacock, who, like, have to have the show now of the calls. Yeah, it's one of them from Peacock because we have this Blue Crush meets Sin City show. I have a name for it now. Oh, what is it?

Blood water sports. That's perfect. Blood water sports is really. Or blood water sport singular. Blood in the water. Could be. There we go. Okay.

From John Peacock. Yes, John Peacock, the president of Peacock. He's a talking peacock. Oh. Voiced by AI Norm MacDonald. Yeah, let's play the call, even if it's not from the Peacock Streaming Network. Hello, Jordan, Jesse, and guest. This is Tracy from Long Beach, California, calling in on behalf of my nine-year-old daughter with two momentous occasions.

The first is that last Saturday I took her to see Social Distortion play at our local independent record store. Shout out Fingerprints Music in Long Beach, where she got to be front row, meet the band, and get her record signed. So that was pretty cool. The second is that the following day was Mother's Day. So we went to Hamburger Mary's for brunch with a bunch of other ladies in our family, where she got to see her first ever drag show. So now I have a photo of her eating a chicken finger while waving dollar bills in the air that I'm definitely going to frame.

All right. That's all I got. Bye. Bye. Starting them young there in Long Beach on Social D. Right. Yeah. Sure.

How old was the kid again? Nine years. Nine. Yeah. I think that's about the age where you're going to start to appreciate Mike Ness's heart on your sleeve, lovable drunk songwriting. Yeah, and the various t-shirts and bumper stickers of it that I've seen. Oh, yeah.

That's my intimate knowledge of social distortion. I know they're called Social D. Social D. I know they got that dancing skeleton. Oh, yeah. That's about all you need to know. That sounds like a fun night out in Long Beach, day out in Long Beach. This is one day. Weekend.

Weekend. It was a weekend. Because the next day was Mother's Day and then the kid became a drag race fan. There you go. Drag queens, I love that. That was for me. You picked that for me. You knew that I was here.

There was a hamburger marries near my house in San Francisco, but is it a Long Beach institution? There's one in West Hollywood. Yeah, there's a West Hollywood one. I should know more about this, but I don't. See, I don't know if you, you perked up at this. I know everything gay. How are the chicken fingers at your typical drag brunch? Is that the order?

They're the safest. I think they're the safest thing you can get. You know, the French fries and chicken fingers, because then, you know, you have the lube. You have the barbequa sauce and the honey mustard or ranch, you know. Or a bleachie. What homosexuals call dip in? A bleachis?

My dipping liquids. Thank you for translating it to heterosexual for us. Yeah. We call them savory lube. Got it. Got it. I got a sweet lube tooth. You can't get, yeah, you can't get, I mean, I've never heard of anyone get sick from a chicken finger, you know, it's so fried to safety.

Yeah, a chicken finger is, I mean, this is like, John Hodgman is obsessed with this one time where he and I were on tour and we had to eat at a, like a highway pit stop. Like they have, in the big northeastern freeways, they have these rest areas that are nothing. but one weird sort of semi-mall. It's surrounded by a sea of parking and it's owned by the state or something. I can't, like in California, the rest stops are just a place to pee. Yeah, basically.

And maybe a vending machine. Yeah, exactly. I score drugs there sometimes. Oh, cool. Awesome. And so I went in there and there was a McDonald's and I ate chicken McNuggets. And I don't really like McDonald's in general. But at the end of the day,

if I am at an airport or at one of those places, I will eat chicken nuggets gladly because I know exactly what I'm going to get and it will not make me feel sick. Yep. And whereas I don't know what's been going on with the mayonnaise on any given thing at an airport or, you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, my sandwiches are going to be real dry. Yeah. So I feel like that is something that you could rely on in a drag show. You could rely on in a strip club. You could rely on it at the snack shack at a Little League field. Just get yourself a chicken strip. This nine-year-old girl is ready.

She knows the Cardinal Rule. The Cardinal Rule. Very beautiful. We have a famous segment, I believe, right? One of our famous segments that we don't think of because we're bad at the show. So, Cene, just so you know, we actually are really creative, think of a lot of good ideas. You're not the only person who thinks of a lot of good ideas because you've written all these comments. comic books and made all these comic books and edited all these comic books.

But we think of a lot of ideas. So this isn't just someone calling in to tell us something they wanted to tell us anyway and saying it's for a segment we thought of. We thought of this segment. That's what it is. Jordan, Jesse, luminous guest. This is Luke in Seattle. I'm calling for your famous segment, subreddit, the bad boys. I have been banned from commenting in the subreddit.

R slash bone collecting, which is a great resource for looking at. pictures of old dirty animal bones on the ground, if that's something that you're interested in. And a common occurrence there is someone will find a bird pelvis and post a picture of it and ask what kind of animal skull it is. And to anyone with any kind of interest in animal skeletons, it is clearly not a skull at all. And this causes some consternation in the R-slash-bone-collecting community. And my response to this was that anytime someone would do that, I would always comment looks like some kind of fucked up dog. And after doing that dozens and dozens of times,

over a period of years, I have been officially banned from commenting. But I still look daily because I got to see those old dirty bones. Love the show. Thank you. Bye. Our caller is that this says something about society. Right.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Seen, I don't know if you know this, but the Daily comic strip Heathcliff is insane now. Okay. Yeah. It used to be just kind of a funny you know, cat gag thing, but now has become the kind of weird mind palace of a lunatic. Wait, are you like pulling my leg?

I'm not pulling your leg. Check out a modern Heathcliff. Jesse, do you have a Heathcliff for a scene? I don't, you know, I don't, are we talking about too much about Heathcliff on the show? Maybe, but I think it's relevant here. So I'll give you two examples just from the last couple days that I really noticed. It really stood out to me. In this one, Heathcliff is riding a trash.

can with wheels that has a pug painted on it and then it's being pulled by four pugs. He's going past a window and an old lady is saying to her friend, I don't care for that pug chariot. Okay, all right.

I'm convinced. You're not yanking me. And then here's this other one is there's a cat and a bird. The cat, of course, is Heathcliff, the cat. The bird is on the white picket fence and they each have a big red megaphone.

And it looks like they both of their mouths are open. So they're saying something into the megaphone at each other. And they're right up against each other. They don't need the megaphone. They're just right up against each other. And then in the window is the old man with the mustache. You know this guy, George. Oh, yeah. Heathcliff's owner, I think.

And he says, they say lizards make good pets. So that's kind of what Heathcliff is now. That's where we are. And yes. Oh, no, wait. Hold on. There's one more I want to tell you about. And I was, I'm going to say, I think that lizards make good pets, that's about as much sense as you're going to hope for them to make. I can kind of sort of see the joke.

I guess the idea is that, yeah, like a cat uses a megaphone too much? Yeah, cats use megaphones too much. Therefore, you would want to get an animal that famously doesn't use a megaphone, which is, of course, a lizard. Okay, so this one, uh, this one, uh, Heathcliff is on his front porch, and he's arm. is akimbo. And on the grass there in the front is three little elves with red hats. And then the old lady, she's

leaning out the window of the house at the younger woman at the white picket fence. And she says, teen gnomes. Teen gnomes. So on the Heathcliff subreddit, there is a guy. I don't know the gender of this person. I'm saying guy, but a user.

who just basically as soon as a new Heathcliff gets posted, this person will post. This really says a lot about society. And it's a very funny running gag. This person is a hero. Cina, do you hang out on Reddit? Do you have a subreddit that you enjoy? Are you just like, fuck that place entirely? Heathcliff's now in a band where they wear egg suits and the band's called Dump-Dumpty.

Well, I think I have a new subreddit I will get into. I only just started really getting into Reddit because I'm that. meme of like, I'll trust an eight-year-old subreddit thread about something before I trust AI. Sure. And it's been a lot with like, I'm like, why is my like iPad doing this thing? Like, why won't, you know, why won't my Apple pencil, you know, you got, you got to have a Reddit user tell you.

Reddit is one of the least broken parts of the internet. As much as we 10 years ago talked about how broken it was, we didn't have any idea how good we had it. Yeah. how bad it could get. I had, I, I,

this is old information. I don't know what's on it anymore, but I remember I dated a guy, uh, years ago when I was working on that Iceman comic at Marvel and he was like, oh, like, there's like,

reddits about you. And I was like, oh, what does it say? What is it? Don't tell me what it. And he's like, oh,

they're all about how you're really nice. I was like, great. Fabulous. That's the best experience anyone has ever had with Reddit. Yeah, I gotta tell you. That's not what the reddits about me are about.

Oh, well, that's my new subreddit. I'm going to be obsessed with you on the updates there. Thank you. But no, I don't want to know what I did. That's because Jesse really fucked up that SILOC comic.

I only post an R slash dumpy fan. I think that I, this is just a little Reddit update. Yeah. For the longest time when we would talk about Reddit here on the show, my go-to Reddit for something untoward was R-slash-Gon Wild Curvy. R slash gone wild curvy Gone.

What? I think so. No. Yeah. I don't know what happened. Maybe they went too wild. Or got too curvy. Did it get replaced by R.

slash curvy gone wild? No, I don't know. It just disappeared. It's like it never even existed. Did we imagine gone wild curvy? I didn't imagine it. I have very vivid recollections. Gone wild Kirby.

Now that, that's a sub-Radded. I still like to visit. Talk about heavy naturals. That guy with all the... Jordan, you would think that R. slash gone wild Kirby was about the Nintendo guy from Super Mario. But it's actually about the work of Jack Kirby. Oh. So it's about different, like, galactic mind beings with heavy naturals.

Different kind of Super Smash melee. Sure. And their naturals all have a, have that patented energy crackle. Yeah. I was honestly, I was really relying on. you guys to know some Jack Kirby specifics because I remember that there are, and I could just say Silver

Surfer, but like, I know that there's some shit. I know that he had some guys that were fucking lived in space. Yeah. And were way crazier than Silver Surfer, right? Yeah, he did like New Gods and he got all, it got

weird and crazy and everything was all pipey and long cars. Okay, so imagine if those are fucking, that's what, yeah, R. slash Gone Wild. Can you imagine Granny goodness from the planet of apocalypse going wild

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I am Jesse Thorne. America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. And I'm Sina Grace, Kirby Crackalicious. You mentioned, before we started recording, that you had performed at Dynasty Typewriter, the popular comedy venue here in Los Angeles in drag. Yeah.

Do you have any preferred drag persona? I just called myself seen a lot of things. And it was Oscar Montoya just told me to do bad drag race. And I thought it was like you can be bad. And everyone like I saw it one time and there was someone who just was like stacking shitty, you know, wigs like $5 Amazon wigs. And I was like, oh, I can do that. And then I get there and these, all of these people are both stand up comedians and very good at makeup and then also auditioning for Rup Paul's drag race. And then like I was a guy with facial hair. wearing lingerie and like a wig and some fake tits. And so never again, even though Oscar's like, come back. And I'm like to make everyone else look better. But yeah, I got to come up with another name. I want like a slutty name. I feel like, I think seen a lot of things is great.

Yeah. Thank you. The lady from drag race that was on Bullseye, whose name is escaping me right at this very moment. But she was in O'Mary on Broadway. Oh, Jinks Monsoon. Jinksmon soon. Thank you. She was so cool.

What a cool lady. She is on Broadway right now doing a Judy Garland show. Yeah. And I don't know to what extent it is a drag show and to what extent it is a sincere tribute show. I mean, obviously there's not a drag show of Judy Garland that is not also a sincere tribute to Judy Garland. However, I don't know where it lands on the level of camp in seriousness. Obviously, real life Judy Garland, very high on the camp scale. However, I don't know where it lies on those things, but I'm ready for just a pure, uncut, old school revival.

It's just going to be Judy Garland, Diana Ross, just the purest classics. Sorry, Lady Gaga, you're out. all drag shows now are just references from 1970. Oh. That's my pitch. I can't respond to that on record because any response I get will get me fucked over at the gay bars. We don't want that to happen. Sina,

did you... Gentle nod. Gentle nod. Yes. Acknowledging that Jesse said something. He did say something. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Seena, did you lip sync as part of this performance? Yeah, I did sex shooter. What sex shooter? From Purple Rain. Apollonia's song. And then, yeah, I had a leather jacket. I took it off. I remember a different Apollonia

part from Purple Rain because I'm a heterosexual man. The waters of Lake Tiddy Tonka or Lake Tiddywong, whatever, doesn't mean, yes, yeah, she, the sex, the fuck scene. Fucking breathtaking. When that happened, when I was 16 or whatever when I saw Purple Rain the first time and she took off her clothes, I was like, this movie's got fat too!

Holy shit! And then me, that was, I saw that I was like, that is within five minutes of him showing her his doll collection. Yeah. Remember that? He's like, these are my dolls. I want to fuck. Their movie is wild. Yeah.

So I did her song in it and I brought out bigger and bigger dildos to throw out the audience because I knew I didn't have it. But I had dildos. And so, and I still didn't win. Who won? I think true detective. Nick Shepard, I believe is his civilian name? Anyway, great. It was great. The fix was in. The fix was in. It was right. You know, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that's what happened. I would have voted for you and your deltos. Thank you. Just so you know. That's why I'm here today. I knew. We're trying to get a retroactive win for a drag show that already happened. I'm tired of heavy naturals.

No, Cina, you got you got you got you got, you got, you got comic books to promote. You got let's, let's hear. What are the latest releases? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I just, yeah, the ghosted in L.A. complete collection. It's $20. It's all 12 issues of this awesome book about a young girl who lives in an apartment complex with ghosts. It's really cool. Lots of actual L.A. places, L.A. people in it. Can't believe I got all those clearances. And then, yeah, and then I just put out a book about pet grief called Life on Paws. But that's self-published, so that's harder to find. But, yeah, making comics over here. I'm excited about that. I'll tell you this. I loaded up some kind of internet website that shows everybody

that ever worked on every comic book loaded up your name. First of all, 700 pages long. What? Because you worked on a lot of comics. I did. I was a comic book editor. I started when I was in high school. I was an intern at a comic book company. And then yeah, and then I was Robert Kirkman's editor

at Skybound, so Invincible. So my 12-year-old lost her shit over you and she's like oh those are good ones too that's what everyone's telling me yeah they're like they're like you worked on the good ones do you still have your comps and i'm like maybe at my mom's like i probably have like five copies of all of those i don't know i gotta find that's a thing people want the comps that's a collector thing now the comic they want the single issue oh yeah or they want uh we never got printer proofs but yeah they invincible's cool and this is the nice thing is i always they're like children i loved walking dad but like i always loved invincible more and so So it's just great that like 10 years later it's this huge thing. And like walking, you know, around this neighborhood, you know, where you see like

street vendors and stuff. You'll see like people with like their own bootlegs, invincible stickers that they make. And that's just wild to me because it was just this, you know, this book that these guys made that I got to edit. And it's a freaking global phenomenon now. And yeah, a 12 year old freaking loves it. I mean, first of all, my 12 year old shouldn't be allowed to read it or watch it. It's cartoon violence.

However. It's too emotionally devastating. That's the problem. That part, Jesus, yeah. I've only read a little tiny bit of it, but I've watched a fair bit of the television show, and I thought it was very good. It's great. No, it's both versions are great. Good show. Good comic. Great comic. Great ghosted in L.A. is probably the best. Ghosted in L.A. is better. If I was ranking comics, it would be number one, ghosted in L.A. That's how much I like Invincible. Invincible's better. Anyway, all right. Number two is going to be Silver Surfer. Silver Surfer. Number three is going to be in.

Kirby crack whore. Kirby crack whore. Cina, are you doing... And I don't care. Cina, you got any... Econin coming up? You got cons? I'll do Comic-Con.

I think even though... Did you get nominated for an Eisner? No. Neither did I. And it really sucks. Me either, guys. Come on. What a shit year.

That's the worst thing that's happened this year. Sure. I mean, I think when so many real bad things happened, I just hyper focus on like dumb work stuff. And I'm like, I don't know. Anyway, but I'll be at San Diego Comic Conner. Are you guys going? I don't think I'm going this year.

Jordan, you're going to go vend? I think I have things coming out. I feel like I should be it. I'm going to get a bit of a shot. I think so. I think so. I'll come down and see you. That'd be great.

I would love to see you. Sina, before we go, I got one question. Yeah. You make your shirt? No, oh, no, no, no, no. This is, but I did was like, that's Riloh-Kiley. But I wore it because I needed a white bass.

Oh, I was talking about the shirt on top because it has an unusual placket. What? I thought maybe you were a seamster. No, no, no, I did artwork. I do artwork for this lady. For one of the Rylokyle Likiley? For Jenny Lewis.

Oh, cool. But I just am a big Rial-Kiley fan, and it was the clean shirt I had, and I wanted a white base. You know, before we go, I just want to say one thing about Jenny Lewis. Yeah, beautiful woman. She's a very beautiful woman, but it wasn't what I was going to say.

I'm not fucking gross like that. No, I was going to say that she's really good in The Wizard. Yeah, that's how, that's how, that's how we know you're straight. Having watched The Wizard as an adult man with my child, honestly, I mean, good is probably a stretch. And I never saw it as a child. So good is probably more than I would say, but like, it's not bad. It's very watchable. I thought it must be bad.

And it gets you stoked for the power glove, the newest Nintendo accessory that worked and was good and helped you play games better, like that one bully who carried it around in a velvet case. But I mean, like, real talk. I found it pretty pleasant to watch. And Jenny Lewis is genuinely great. She's like 12 or something. I don't know. She's genuinely great in it. I was like, oh, oh, that's Jenny Lewis, the singer.

Yeah, you're like, you end up in depth, not the postal service. Yeah. Anyway, we had a lot of fun here today. Hey, before we go, our thanks to Jordan Cowling, now outgoing producer of Jordan Jesse Goh. Jay, Kay, Jake, Jay, Kay. Jordan has East Coast stuff to get up to. We're very grateful to her for her service on Jordan, Jesse Go. A true, a true legend.

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