Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Doge Arena, with Danielle Radford

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

On this week’s episode, we welcome back comedian and podcaster, Danielle Radford (Tights and Fights), to chat about traffic etiquette, washing hoodies, cool stuff with bones, and more! Justice for migrants. Please consider donating to Al Otro Lado this holiday season.Jordan is writing an official Spider-Man comic!Be sure to get our new 'Ack Tuah' shirt in the Max Fun store.Or, grab an 'Ack Tuah' mug!The Maximum Fun Bookshop!Follow the podcast on Instagram and send us your dank memes!Check out Jesse’s thrifted clothing store, Put This On.Go see Free With Ads and Judge John Hodgman LIVE at SF Sketchfest!Come see Judge John Hodgman: Road Court  live in a town near you! Jesse and John will be all over the country so don't miss your change to see them. Check the events page to find out where!Follow brand new producer, Steven Ray Morris, on Instagram.Listen to See Jurassic Right!

Give a little time for the child within you don't be afraid to be young and free Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you It's Jordan Jesse go. I'm Jesse Thorne America's radio sweetheart Jordan Morris Gold member. Oh really? Yeah From the film Austin Powers and gold. Oh my gosh Oh my gosh, I see where the confusion is. No, I'm not the hilarious character Goldmember from Austin Powers' Goldmember. You just have a golden dong.

God, no, again, more confusion, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have just blurted that out out of context. When you dipped your dong, it didn't taste? No, no, no. Listen, I have not dipped my dong in gold. Okay. I've dipped it in some other stuff. I'm looking at you, Caramel.

But no, God, again, I'm sorry. I should have provided more content. I can see how you're confused. The audience is confused. Yeah, gold member, you said. Gold member. I am officially, God, I can't believe I'm saying this. I can't believe I'm announcing this on the show.

I am a gold member of the Hilton Rewards Program. Bon Voy, my friends. Oh, again. Is that the Marriott? No, that's Marriott. I know. On a previous show, I had expressed a lot of delight with the Marriott Rewards Program slogan Bonvoy.

This is something that these poor people who work at the hotels are forced to say to you. Yes, when you check in, you get a little bottle of water and a hearty Bonvoy from... It is just brutal to just see people die before your eyes, as they say. People who have chosen a career in hospitality Whose core competency is being genial, right? I mean, I think I've I've had a couple of check-ins where where they've really juiced to the Bonvoy But yeah, there are a couple of people who are you know, just But you know, so I don't I don't need to I don't need to unpack Bonvoy because that is not my program.

Right. So your program is at Hilton. I'm a Hilton Rewards member. Okay. So here's kind of what happened. When I was looking at my... I was in a hotel room and it flooded. And a manager came in all flustered.

Sure. I solemn Bonvoy to you, sir Apologetic bonvoy I genuflect to you Bonvoy on you So I I was looking at my 2024 And I'm like, you know, this is my this is my con year I'm are you cons are you into getting bonvoyed on is that the kind of nasty shit? Oh, yeah Okay, I want a warm cookie and a little water Are you into getting bonvoyed on is that the kind of nasty shit you're into? Oh yeah. Okay.

I want a warm cookie and a little water. This was the year that- Bonvoy me baby. This was the year the release of your brand new book, Youth Group, that everyone should get for the holidays. Shouldn't they? And you traveled this great nation attending various cons, which are gatherings of enthusiasts, culture enthusiasts. And you autographed copies of the book for them.

Yes, it was a lot of fun. I'm really happy I did it. And so... You had a little booth next to a nice lady who makes custom dice. Sure. And some self-publishing freaks who wrote nasty Minotaur shit. Who did very well, by the way. I need to get into this nasty Minotaur shit. Maybe you could just do a second edition of Youth Group

with a nasty Minotaur, maybe like one per page or one every other page. One nasty Minotaur per page? So like 115 nasty minotaurs? Well, now I changed it to 57 and a half nasty minotaurs. So the book, it's a YA book for all audiences. 55 and a half, sorry. People don't correct me.

Wait, no, 115? That's going to be 57 and a half. Don't make us do Minotaur math. 57 and a half is correct. So you're suggesting maybe an adults-only edition of the book with more nasty, engorged Minotaurs? Yeah, sure. I mean... I'll suggest it to the editors.

They're bipedal. They'd fit right in. Of course. You know what? You're right. It is a They're bipedal. They'd fit right in. Of course. You know what? You're right. It is a book about bipedal creatures. So it would make sense. It would make perfect sense. Jordan, if you're worried about there being too many Minotaurs in it, some could be cut and some uncut.

That's nice to show Minotaur diversity. Exactly. I just want my son to open a book and see a Minotaur's dong that looks like his. Exactly. So important. So yeah, so I was talking to some friends who were frequent travelers and I'm like, I should probably be getting points from this shit. I shouldn't just be going to these things willy-nilly.

I should be collecting points. And you got some people, all comedy people have people in their life who are travel nerds because all our stand-up friends who work the road, all the Jimmy Pardos we know, have dedicated the last... You know Jimmy Pardo? I know. All the Laurie Kilmartins we know have dedicated the last 25 years to mastering points and can just tell you the secrets of points. J. Keith VanStraten, a past guest on this program, writes for a website called pointsguy.com. Right.

Yeah. So there's a lot of points guys in our life. Yeah. He wrote on a Bad Bad Botsmeroo-themed airplane. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Lucky dude. Lucky dude. Lucky dude.

That's why you get points. So yeah, my dream was to ride on some sort of Sanrio character. Yeah. Bad Batsamaru. You're that kind of nasty freak. That egg. That egg that's always mad.

Yeah. All sorts of fun characters over there at Sanrio. Sanrio, go on, Jordan, Jesse, go. Sure. We didn't have bad, bad Batsamaru on, right? Listen, that's worst case Sanrio. Sanrio, go on, Jordan, Jesse, go. Sure. We didn't have bad, bad bots from everyone, right? Listen, that's worst case Sanrio. Yeah. And so, I was like, I gotta be getting points, and I was ready to do Bonvoy, because I like

saying it so much, but someone's like, it's not as good, you gotta do Hilton. Oh. So, I trusted this friend, and I became a Hilton guy. So, every one of these, I just stayed in a Hilton partner hotel, a lot of DoubleTrees. Adam Chapnick DoubleTrees, great travel hotel. Aaron Ross Man, I really enjoyed all my DoubleTrees stays. They always hit it out of the park.

Adam Chapnick You know, America's mid-priced hotels are really doing excellent work. I would say the last 15 years have been very kind to America's mid-priced hotels. Absolutely. They're really like the corporatization of a hotel that costs $130 a night to $160 a night has really done wonders for that segment, I would say. Absolutely. And so I was staying in a lot of those and my...

I mean, obviously I'd be in a courtyard where they would say to me, Bon Voy. Well, listen, we're different men in many ways. And so, yeah, so I was like collecting these points, watching my little, there's a little points meter that you get on the app that it's like a circular points meter. So it's like maybe I'm like an Apple watch when your rings close. So it's like that and I'm watching this thing go up and my last book event was the Berkeley Public Library Comic Con about a month ago, which I had a blast at. Stated a lovely double tree.

I get home to a nice email from the Hilton company. You've achieved gold status. Wow. And I'm... Yes. Can I ask a question about this? Please. Obviously, you stayed in a Hilton property when you went to Berkeley. How many Hilton points did you get for going to Gilman Street?

You would think, you know, fucking Gilman doesn't have points, man. The man gives out points. Okay. And they're not affiliated with that motherfucker. But you do get five points every time you purchase a bumper sticker that says, uh, uh, visualize world keys. Yeah, because I'm collecting Food Not Bombs points by giving out vegan chili on a corner. Soon I'll be a Food Not Bombs gold member. My dad got his gold status by going to see every Kurosawa film at the University Theater in Berkeley.

Oh, neat. There's a lot of great statuses out there. So I have gold status now, but I don't have any travel planned. And I'm like, I'm going to lose my gold status. It's all I'm thinking about. I can't lose it. Do you It's all I'm thinking about. I can't lose it. Do you get anything? I don't know! But I have to have it! Because I feel like... I don't know what I get!

The thing about these statuses is, it's like there's this rule... By the way, you yelled the door of the studio open just now. There's this thing in professional baseball, now. There's like there's this thing in professional baseball, where in in hiring in the front offices, the people who manage the players, there is a rule that like you can interview someone who's under contract for a job if the job would be a promotion. Yeah. And the result of this has been that the guys who used to run baseball teams were called general managers. But then, you know, the Yankees wanted to interview Cleveland's general manager to become the boss of the Yankees. So they just invented a thing called Pobo, president of baseball operations, who's the boss of general managers. Right? So, and this inflation continues indefinitely. And there is a phenomenon like that in rewards clubs, which is they'll start with one tier

of rewards, which is gold club. But then they're just like, oh, no, now there's platinum club. Now there's diamond club. Now there's diamond encrusted club, you know what I mean? And it goes on and on from there. So I presume Gold Club is the basic level. Yeah. So I think silver, after you do a couple of stays, you get silver. And that has some perks, more water bottles basically. And then I think gold, to the best of my knowledge, you get like upgraded immediately. So if you're staying somewhere and there's a suite available, you get the suite, which

is appealing to me. Oh, that is nice. Yeah, and some other likes. Like continental, not continental breakfast, but you get some money to spend at the restaurant to get a little breakfast in the morning. Oh, they give you a little commissary dough. A little commissary dough. But I don't have any trips planned, so I'm not going to be able to utilize this stuff.

And I'm like, but I'm going to fucking lose it without ever getting to enjoy it. Can you just use the commissary? I mean, if I could recommend, based on my experience in summer camp, the best thing to spend it on is a Capri Sun and a red vine. You can bite the ends off the red vine and use it to drink the Capri Sun. God, I would love to get a red vine in a double tree. I'm entitled. I'm a gold member. This guy's a gold member. I'm a gold member.

So yeah, so if, you know. How long does your membership, how long until your membership expires? I don't know. I'm just panicking. I'm laying awake at night going like, where can I go? Where can I stay at Hilton? What excuse do I have? Would it be possible for you to do a sort of grand gesture that could prolong your membership? Like if you went in there, so I mean I'm I obviously I'm just brainstorming I'm don't have a hard and fast idea. Yeah, my first thought was be one of those kazoo guys like a fisherman's wharf You know what I mean? Okay, like have these guys He's got like a kazoo in his mouth and he's moving around like a fisherman's wharf. You know what I mean? Okay, like have-

All these guys, he's got like a kazoo in his mouth and he's moving around like a robot. He's covered in gold paint. Okay, so I could be like a tourist photo weirdo. But a gold-themed one. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Sure. So, or you could wear a... I mean, I know that there's a lot of controversy about whether

C-3PO from Star Wars is gold colored. Oh, yeah. But obviously he's fucking gold colored. We all know he's fucking gold colored. Yeah, I guess I didn't know about this conference. Don't fucking at me about this. Well, hold on. We have a guest here from the world of-

Dorks? Dorks. We have a famous dork. We want to introduce her, see if she can explain this C3PO thing. Yes. Among her many dork credits is being one of the longtime hosts of Max Fun's long-running wrestling podcast, Tights and Fights. She's also a stand-up comic and writer and host of various online video things and all kinds of stuff.

Danielle Radford. Hi, not famous by the way. We should just. Legendary. Super, super, dork. I disagree. Yes, super, super not famous. She's a dork's dork.

Yeah, yeah, I'm your favorite dork's favorite dork. Right, you're the velvet underground of dorks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I had to, like I'm the Bukowski of dorks. dork. You're the velvet underground of dorks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I'm the Bukowski of dorks. I had to explain to my family, I recently went on a cruise and they were like, and it was a lot of family members I don't see very often, it was kind of a family reunion. And I had to explain to them that I am only famous

at like within one mile radius of a con or at any theme park. And like that's it. So if you're expecting- People are gonna lose their shit at Knott's Berry Farm. Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes. I believe it. Not Scary Farm specifically.

Oh, okay. You guys also have a hundred foot radius of where 20 sided dice are sold. Possibly. Although I go, I choose to believe that it's because I'm not famous and not that people are being coy, because I have a local shop that I will go and buy dice from.

And I don't get stopped. You want to shout out your local dice shop? No, maybe you don't. Oh, you don't want to get to, okay, yeah, yeah. I want to keep going there. And they seem to be fine. If I thought it was a thing. But if I thought it was a thing, then I would- No, no, privacy is important. Well, no, because if I thought it was a thing. But if I thought it was a thing, then I would-

No, no, privacy's important. Well, no, because if I thought it was a thing, we would do something like Break-In 2, where we would save the Dice Center, and we would all have people come out. We would do fantastic events. Yeah, yeah, do a talent show. IT would be there.

Breakdancing contest. Yeah, breakdancing contest to save the dice. I heard they're in a dicey situation. There it is. Nice, yeah. Oh, I'm back. Oh, that's beautiful. Okay, so you know about this- You know, Apollo's dice. I heard they're in a dicey situation. There it is. Nice. Oh, I'm back. Oh, that's beautiful. Okay, so you know, apologize. Do you know about this thing where C3PO is not actually gold colored? No, I didn't like I think I have to unble- now I knew about the

one which is actually depending on, could be true about the Captain Kirk shirt thing, where it's like, maybe it's green, maybe it's gold, we don't know because of old-timey stuff. I didn't know about, but it's also, for my own mental health, Jesse Thorne, I had to stop, I had to decouple myself from a lot of the Star Trek conversation,

because I used to work for fandom And fandom used to have like the or still does they are the owners of the Wikipedia essentially at fandom what happened was Wikipedia Went up to a bunch of dorks And was like hey We got to get all this Star Wars shit off my knowing things website I will give you part of my name. Our website is for actual information. Yes, not for how many different kinds of furniture you can find in Star Wars.

How wide is the Sarlacc? Yes, exactly. And so they gave them this, and then that became a thing, and that is how, part of how, like, Wikipedia and then it expanded and it became this big thing called fandom that laid me off. And so. And so. Hey listen, we've all been laid off by some great companies in here.

We've all been laid off by some great companies. Amazing companies. And so because of that. We're grateful to all business persons. Yes. Who employ then lay us off in the field of dork. Yes, and they all love their fans. Don't they all love their fans,

the companies who lay us off? They love them so much. And so I had to kind of unplug from a lot of, because sometimes we would have ideas for shows where there would be like, okay, how much weird, obscured knowledge is there about Star Wars? And can we do like a rabbit hole and see what we can find?

And so I did spend one day just fucking looking up the different kinds of like furniture in Star Wars. And it was at that moment I said, unless I'm getting paid, I will never do this again. Sure. Okay, so I'm a famously a medium Star Wars guy. And unfortunately, while I recently interviewed Jude Law, it was immediately before my screener was activated

for the Jude Law Star Wars television show. So I watched his film that he was in at the time, a very good thriller called The Order, but I did not see the Star Wars children television show, medium Star Wars guy. I am going to ask Stephen to look up if C-3PO is gold. C-3PO is the one who goes, brr-brr-brr-brr, you know what I mean? He's a protocol droid. He is gold, but he has a silver leg

in the original trilogy. All right, he's got a silver leg, that's what's going on, and it's shining. Tell me if this is right, it's reflecting the sand. Yes, very much so. So, wait, so now the thing is, so C-3PO is the new the dress, like it's the dork the dress, like is he gold, is it reflecting the sand? Yeah.

You know when this guy's walking around in the sand? Oh yeah, it's gotta be hard for a robot, right? Yeah, also I guess I'm just not staring at C-3PO's gams like that. I guess I'm just not that kind of-3PO's gams like that. I guess I'm just not that kind of freak. Oh, they go all the way up. Big poop. I ain't that kind of freak. I'm not checking out, his legs go all the way up to here.

You're not looking at his legs? Jordan's not looking at his gold member. I believe you both. I believe you. There's robot leg guys and there's robot ass guys. And I'm a there's robot. There's robot leg guys, and there's robot ass guys And I am a robot boobs guy I fuck R2-D2 I also like it when the little thing yeah, he's a navigator. Oh, yeah, I'll show you where to go prostate yeah It's always the prostate yeah You know what I mean? Yeah, he'll show you where to go. Prostate. Yeah. Yes.

It's always prostate. It's always the prostate. Yeah. Daniel, do you, as someone who travels and does cons and things like that, do you accrue points or are you just like, stick me in the partner hotel? No, I am a Hilton's member.

Oh, okay. Brick, I don't know if that's one, but I'm whatever the lowest one is. Right, you blow gold, blow silver. They're all named after Rian Johnson. They're all named after Rian Johnson. Yes, they are all. I'm Looper.

Or ways you can call something cold on the East Coast. Exactly. That's how that works. I believe, I think I'm silver or something. I do want to go for the gold, and then eventually, I think, do you become a knight? Like, is there a fiefdom? I'm trying to- Yes.

I think you are issued, I think there's primogeniture for sure. Okay, so I get my own hotel. Right. Right? Okay. They take down one of the signs and they just put up Danielle. Yeah, there it is.

Danielle, you get to choose one of the farmer's daughters. Yes, prima nota. Let's fucking go. Yeah, so that is, but I do have, I stay in hotels a bit actually, like even in town because I love that I have a place to live, but occasionally our water will go out.

And I don't know if y'all know this, but you need water to not smell like ass. And I am in public a lot and would like the thing that you remember about me to not be, oh, Danielle is really funny. She smells like ass. So when that happens, I will go and like stay in a hotel. And so there's a couple, like I'll stay like a couple nights in or whatever. And then, you know, Danielle, I recently went five days without showering. So I understand the impulse,

the impulse to smell like us or not smell like ass? To go rent a hotel room specifically. I seriously thought about it. What was the context? The context was this. My house was tented for termites and hopefully clothing moths because there was fucking clothing moths. And you guys know I got wool carpets. I was going to say, that is Shangri-La. Like, that is like their Xanadu.

Like, they have found their home, and they are setting up camp. Exactly. There is no more need to wonder. We are at the end of the Oregon Trail. So we agreed to have, we did not know when our house had last been termite-tented, because we bought our house about three years ago.

So I was like, I figured we might as well just termite-tent it. You're supposed to do it every 10 to 15 years anyway and then we'll know when we will reset the clock and hopefully it'll also kill the moths. And in order to do this, I went up to my cabin in the Southern Sierras, which is a big production these days, my autistic children, not nuts about changes of venue. But we went up to the cabin and I think like the night before we left, I took a shower. And then we went up to the cabin and at the cabin, everyone shares a bathroom and it's very cold outside and sometimes cold in the cabin. And the shower is OK.

And it's also really hard to figure out which is your towel. And also, everyone is flipping out all the time because it is not their house that they're used to. And so it is hard for parents to make time for themselves. And so for all of this combination of reasons, I was just like, when the day we got there, I mean, we got there at like eight o'clock at night. So that's out, right?

Next day, I'm just like, I can't even deal with this. Day after that, I'm sort of like, I mean, I'll just take a shower when we get home tomorrow. Like, you know, I can't like... And for petty. Exactly. Then, the day after that, we got home and found on our door sign that said, the gas company had visited, but we weren't there. So they couldn't turn our gas on. Now, let me just say our gas is just a little valve

immediately in front of my front stairs. They could have just turned it. But apparently they have to do a safety check of things inside your house. But we couldn't be inside our house because of the tenting being removed. You have to wait a certain amount of time for the poison to dissipate. Yeah. So you made the choice between gas or poison. Exactly. And you chose to not have gas. So I didn't know. So what happened is the day that we were coming back in the morning,

it's like a, with kids in the car, probably a four hour drive to my cabin. This is the radius where I can afford vacation property. Two hours from Los Angeles. No. Sorry Lake Arrowhead and Big Bear. Also nowhere with skiing or other recreational activities. Just a house in the woods. And so like, it was the morning and I, I like called the guy or texted the guy, the tenting guy. And I said, we're headed back. I just want to confirm we'll be able to get in there at 2 30. Like I know like part of it is you can't lock up your house while it's being tented because of needing air to go in and out of the windows and stuff. So like you have to take all your valuables out of the house. It's a whole thing, right? But part of that is you want to get back right when you're allowed to go back in, you know,

so that no one breaks into your house. Because during most of the time, it's full of poison gas, so it's a little harder to steal from. Yeah, what a small window between, imagine you are a burglar. I'm so sorry. Don't steal this idea, because I'm going to take it when times get really hard. I'm just going to go from town to town.

Don't steal this stealing idea. Don't steal my stealing idea. I'm going to go from town to town, find places that are tented and wait, and then find the sweet spot between when the tent comes down and the poison goes out. Danielle, if you think that I did not watch videos online from people's inside the house security cameras of guys

going around with gas masks on. Oh, they do that. Never mind. It's not my smart idea. I will no longer base my HBO Max TV show on this brilliant. God, I would love to watch that on Max. It's perfect for Max. You wouldn't watch it.

That's perfect for Max. You'd watch it. You know what? Max passed, but Paramount Plus is interesting. Ooh. I think you could do that. Just like make sure that a kid hasn't been left home alone because Then you're gonna have trouble. Yeah. Well first I'm gonna watch out for paint cans. Yeah

So we call I call the guy and I'm like we're headed home. Just want to confirm that we can come home at 230 He says yeah, he says well just remember that you're supposed to be there all day for the gas company. And I said, Sorry, remember, excuse me, forgive me, remember from whence remember is die. And so we just kind of came home as quickly as I could, as we could just miss this guy. And so I called the gas company when I got back, because it was like 430 or something like that. I'm like, they'll still be open. It's Saturday. I can just get the guy to come by. And I called the gas company and the woman is explaining to me why they couldn't just turn on the gas at the valve that's at the front of the house and why it's a crime for me to try and do

it. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, are you serious? Like, I don't have any hot water. I've got three children who are freaking out in my house. It's cold. It was Los Angeles cold, but still pretty cold. And she says, well, the next the next half day appointment I have is December 17th. This is like, this was at Thanksgiving. Oh, absolutely. I'm like, okay, well, that's I said, I that's, I said to the woman, I don't think that's going to work, ma'am. Yeah, no, I have to say I'm a quarter white,

and that is when my quarter white would fully show. We are having a conversation with your manager. I understand, I understand, ma'am, I'm sorry, I understand, I understand that this is not your fault, and I'm really, really trying not to take my bad day out on you, ma'am, ma'am, I understand. I understand that this is not your fault and I'm really, really trying not to take my bad day out on you, ma'am, ma'am, but I'm going to need to speak with your manager. But my diction has become extraordinarily specific. I asked for dressing on the side.

Oh, them peas are popping, babe. It turned out that I could get a full day appointment, but this was on Saturday afternoon and I could not get a full day appointment until Monday. So it was at some point on Monday, this person would come to my house and turn on my gas. So I went from Wednesday to Monday after late afternoon. I rushed home from work, I think, to take a shower without showering. And honestly, I don't think I was that stank. Not that stank.

Not that stank. I was careful to avoid exertion and to use wipes. And between those two things, I think I was not that stank. Not that stank. I did at one point give myself a, there's a colloquial term for it. Birdbath? Sure, let's say birdbath.

That's the one. We're gonna use bird. I know the one you're thinking. A sex worker's bath? Sex workers who are real workers. I did, I gave myself a wipe down in an area that I had utilized. This does not sound less sexy.

To express love. Sure. During that time, I did not go that full time without expressing love. Talking about the prostate. Whip, whip, whip, whip. Whip, whip. Yeah, that expression is going to be really vivid.

You're using the prostate to engender the expression. Okay, well anyway, that's why I didn't shower for so long. Well hey, guys, I gotta wipe down a little bit. You wanna wipe down and then come back for some more? We'll be back in just a second on Jordany Goh. I am Jessy Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Of course, every episode of Jordan Jessy Goh is brought to you by you, the members of

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Great to see so many folks out there. It's a helping hand. It warms the heart. Thank you to everybody who's been opening up their wallets. It's really, really cool to see. Yeah. And I want to emphasize too, like, you know, there's like a little ticker

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On March 5th, you can head to your local comic book store and grab a copy of Web of Spider-Verse New Blood. It's a Spider-Man anthology with a story from me and artist Sumit Kumar. Fun stories about your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man adventuring throughout the multiverse. Yeah, it's really cool. Sumit's obviously a brilliant artist.

You know him if you're a comics reader. And it was a super fun story. I hope folks check it out, pick it up, put it on their pull list. March 5th. I love, I feel like just have us make your pull list. We'll do it. Yeah.

Have us make your pull list. We'll decide if you want the new Black Hammer. That's a good one. I read that black one. Yeah, we'll tell you if you need to swoop in on the new power pack or if you can wait for the trade. Indeed. So get out to those comic book stores.

Also Jordan and I will both be at San Francisco SketchFest. Jordan with Free With Ads and I with Judge John Hodgman. You can find those tickets and all the information at maximumfund.org slash events. Hodgman and I will also be hitting Vancouver, Seattle, and Portland, Los Angeles show completely sold out. So go to maximumfund.org slash events and get those tickets because it's going to be a great time as always at SF Sketch Fest. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Goh.

It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Danielle Radford, non-famous dork. Jordan. Yeah. Has anything momentous happened to you lately? Well, the gold member thing.

Right. And the panic that comes with being a gold member with no travel plans. Right. And that's it. The panic. Does the panic count? Yeah, I guess, you know, the panic is momentous. Yeah.

I mean... The panic I'm feeling right now Not a hotel stays it occurs to me that there's a few there's been some pretty momentous panics I mean like bank runs. Yeah, I mean or a good example of a momentous panic Panic at the disco being formed popular band. Yes Yeah, I think that's one of those bands that's just the guy, right? It's just the guy isn't that the thing with them? It's probably just a guy Yeah, and he's also another guy where he's a band and he's just a guy and I don't remember which one that is because I am not that into math wrong LCD sound system is just a guy, right? I mean he has different guys

I think that started as just a guy, but I think now it's a band. Oh, really? Yes. Okay. I saw them at a music festival, I'm like, eh, am I gonna stay and see this? And then it blew my fucking mind. I loved it so much.

I heard they recently did a show in LA and a bunch of people were like, the over 40 crowd was having a time. Ugh, me and the over 40s. We were losing our minds at this shit. Guys, I'm about to go to an over 70 thing. Ooh 70 plus I'm going to a full-on retirement community. I'm gonna go see Stevie Wonder on Saturday night That's gonna be fun. I'm really excited about this. It's at the

The most unfortunately named venue in all of America, the crypto.com arena. Nice. Bring your wipes. Bring the wipes. Staples Center sounded like it was named after a man named Staples, despite the fact that it was very embarrassingly named after an office supply chain. It seemed like it would be, like it sounds like Wrigley Field. Yeah. In that you would think it was named after just a rich person named Staples. There is no

mistaking crypto.com. Companies, look we companies used to be named after things that were recognizable sounds or symbols. Crypto.com is nothing and it means nothing. And I do not look forward to like when we invent time travel and we have to explain to Mr. Staples what Crypto.com is. Daniel, it's not nothing. It's a money laundering scheme. Oh, sorry, it's a money laundering scheme. That's right.

Someday I will become famous enough by doing, I don't know, talk about sucking dick on the street. And somebody will come up to me and be like, Danielle, here's a million dollars. And give you a bird bath. Give me a bird bath. I mean, at least it's not like arena macarena face, you know? That's a pretty good point. Doge Arena. I do find myself, when something gets,

when I hear about like a stadium or an arena and they paid a hundred million dollars to name it after something, I just think, wouldn't it be nice if they gave me some of that money? I will rename myself for a million dollars. Sure. I will be Danielle McDanielface.

Like is that, if we're open, I will do that. Like I will- Jordan Jesse Goh with Doge Morris. I'll be Doge. Yeah, like I'll wear the uniform. You know how like people will have like Jimmy Johns or well maybe not Jimmy Johns, but people will have corporate names.

Yeah, like a NASCAR driver. Like a NASCAR driver. I will be Ben and or Jerry. I'm just saying. I'll say this right now. Right at this moment, audience can't see me. I'm in a hot dog on a stick outfit. I'd love to get some money for that.

I have to buy this out of pocket. You know what I mean? And that hat is very tall. That's a lot of extra material. It's an investment. Also, I can tell you do well by your shoes because somehow you are not crinkling the costume at all when you sit down, there is no.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, well, you know, it has to be crinkle-proof. No crisis. Otherwise, when you're pumping that lemonade. Yeah, that's right. Was there anything hornier in 1996 than that lemonade pump? At the mall? No.

Yeah. I mean, Auntie Em was pretty hot oh yeah oh have you seen the Mrs. Fields is there a mr. field oh there is okay Spencer's is like giving nothing this night don't hit me mr. fields I just wanted a bite of your wife's nibblers Mrs. Mrs. Fields

one time my mom just casually mentioned that she knew Famous Amos. She knew Famous Amos. Personally. Is your mom the one that put the salt on his cookies? Hell yeah. She knew Famous Amos. And one time Colonel Sanders slept on her couch.

That's not, your mom. That's true. Your mom is like, I don't wanna say it cause when you say the Forrest Gump that has a different connotation, but like your mom has been touched. My mom is a box of chocolates. By every, like I want to hear basically the story of your mom going through life and just meeting every food mascot. Roommates with the grimace in college. I strongly recommend the Bullseye Holiday Special this year features a conversation with Judy Greer. And we had had a Max Fund Drive promise that if we hit a certain goal,

my mom would co-host an episode with me. She co-hosted the interview with Judy Greer. And she just, she was, she considered it to be Almost self-evident that she had been arrested for that bank robbery and sort of tossed off an explanation involving some names of people who had gone to Cuba Already by the time she got arrested Yeah, you're I'm absolutely gonna need your mom to write a book. Judy's lived Judy has lived, Judy has lived a life. Judy has done her thing. Speaking of which, if you've lived a life and something

momentous has happened to you, give us a call at 206-984-4FUN. That's 206-984-4FUN. Or alternately, whip out that smart telephone, open up that voice memo application, record a little voice memo, and then send it to jjgoatmaximumfun.org. Here's a momentous occasion from a listener to our show. Jordan, Jesse, go. Hi, Jordan. Hi, Jesse. Hi, guest. I'm going to say...

John Hodgman. John Hodgman. There we go. My wife and I were just driving on the Sawmill Parkway on our way up for Thanksgiving and someone who had been tailgating us, they finally pulled around us and they reached their arm out the window to give us a thumbs down. And getting such a polite hand gesture of disagreement. Love you. Bye.

I love you too. Quaint. Quaint. Yeah. Let's always have a friend or romantic partner offering ad libs. Yeah, I like it. It adds a little bit of like the spice. Yeah.

And it implies our listeners have love in their life, which I think is nice. Get Chance the Rapper in there on the no-name song. Yes. Just offer a little color around the edges, a little color around the edges, a little extra flavor. I actually, I have been just completely racked with, the other day I was driving from El Sereno neighborhood in East Los Angeles to Lincoln Heights neighborhood in East Los Angeles, to Lincoln Heights, neighborhood in East Los Angeles where I live. And there is a very long, there's a very sort of long meandering

drive on a city street, but a wide city street and it has a, you know, a center turn lane. And you know, the speed limits like 40 or something like that, I was just driving behind someone that was going 24 miles an hour. And it was so long, like no stop signs, no, like it wasn't like they were going, like they weren't like hitting the accelerator hard enough out of the traffic lights. Like just this long drive behind someone going 24. And I just thought to myself, could I be that person? I'm never this person. Could I be this person? And I just thought, yeah, I am. And I just fucking passed him through the center turn lane. It simply must be done. Yeah. I was like, I don't want to honk at them. No, I think that he did the right thing, as long as it was a safe passing.

Yeah, see, this is why I don't drive, because I would be the person going 24 and ruining everyone else's day. I am a very, in a way that I am not with my life, I am behind the wheel of a car, I am overly cautious. And I think you know if you're that person, and you're almost relieved when someone goes in front of you. Yeah, I'm a real rules follower.

It really racked me. I'm also not a big aggressive passer. Like the road that aforementioned four hour drive to my cabin features a long stretch between Bakersfield, California and Porterville, California that is just a road that like oil derricks just like a total nothing road and these guys and lifted pickup trucks will leave your ass in the dust. Oh see yeah like I'm I'm a I'm a very avid walker and I was down in the fashion district looking for bootleg

perfumes like you do. Great place to walk. Great place to walk and I'm very avid walker and I was down in the fashion district looking for bootleg perfumes like you do. Great place to walk. Great place to walk. And I'm walking behind this family and it's one of those things where the sidewalk is so narrow and they're a family and they're taking forever and ever and ever and ever and ever. And so finally I felt like I was on one of those missions in an old school game where you've got someone following behind you and you have to make sure that they're okay and not lose them.

The president's daughter twisted her ankle. Yeah, exactly. Or like, Minnie needs Mickey to like, that's a very specific reference. So I'm like grabbing the hand of the person behind me. Minnie needs Mickey to, you know. Wipe her down. And so I go and I pass in front of this family and the kid gives me a little like, I get it, but the mom is like, well, I hope that was worth it.

And it's like, it was. It was worth it. I am so- It was totally worth it. I'm so sorry. I, as a lifelong city dweller, as like an urban denizen of my life, having grown up in central San Francisco,

I am a very aggressive walker. I am a real rule follower when it comes to driving. But if I am on the right-hand side of the sidewalk and I am walking and you are on the left-hand side of the sidewalk walking towards me, like if you are head-on facing me and you're not paying attention and you walk into me, I will not give anything to you. I will just let, I'm bigger than you, I will just let you hit me. If you're gonna walk into me, I will just let you do it. I won't like hit anyone or drop a shoulder or anything,

but I will give no ground. If I'm all the way to the right, I will not turn sideways to let someone slip past me. I will just let them bounce off me. Well, because usually they're not paying attention. Yeah, it's a, we're using the same sidewalk. I'm on my side. Yeah, I think my least favorite is like

when I'm walking by myself and I will also very much, I, all the way to the right, like I respect the rules of the sidewalk, when there's a group of like five people and they all feel the need to like walk flanking, like it's a fucking Tarantino movie and they all need to be right next to each other. Like, no, sometimes you're Tarantino sometimes you got to be the Beatles walk behind each other and single fucking file. So that's one where I'm like, while

all the women are chasing you while all the women are chasing you. I gotta say the the the phenomenon that gets me the most on a sidewalk is not just a family of tourists spread across the whole width of the sidewalk. That's the classic, right? That's the obvious one. And certainly that makes me feel crazy. Like again, as not only an urban denizen, but as like a person who like worked in downtown San Francisco for years, like the, certainly

it's the, was the number one tourist destination in America. Those, the, the tourist family spread across the whole sidewalk makes me feel nuts. But the specific element that makes me feel nuts is when they are varying their, when they're weaving as a group. So there's holes opening and you're like, I could make it through that hole like a fucking running back right now, but then they're weaving back. Like the hole never stays open.

Yeah, like Galactica or whatever. It's like, I'm just trying to like make it through the aliens, but you keep flanking and changing position and it's like, cause I'm always looking, I'm always looking for my opening to go around or go through. Like I'm bobbing and weaving. And it's like, cause I'm always looking, I'm always looking for my opening to go around or go through like I'm bobbing and weaving. And when they're-

You'll duck under and then you got to reach through and get your hat. Yes, exactly. And so that, yeah, exactly. The thing of like they're- You're sliding under closing doors. Yeah, there's like a boulder coming for me. Like I'm fucking Indian.

I'm just like trying to make it before, you know, the edges of the tunnel closes. And they suddenly decide like that's the moment that they want to stop and look at something pretty. Yeah, and I'm like, it's I Mean, I know that you came here for Grauman's. I promise I promise there will be another dirty spider-man on like the next Even dirtier than this one With an even weirder stain on his costume. One without so much as a birdbath. Like you could, I promise you someone else will ask you to buy a mixtape. Like you're not bereft.

I will definitely, a hundred percent walk in the street to go around people. I have no problem. I believe in my heart as a San Franciscan, I believe in my heart that I can make any car stop that I can make eye contact with. And I know as someone whose life has been marked by having been hit by a bus many years ago, Danielle, you may feel otherwise. Go back in Seattle, I did have that power.

And in LA, I did learn very quickly that they will just murder you here. And, but then yes, learning that even, even when you're on the right of way, a bus will still speed up to make a turn and hit you in your body and face and all over. Yeah, I definitely learned the lesson real quick because in Seattle, you don't even have to like look at them.

Because see, because Seattle is a bunch of pussies and I love my town. I love my town. Well, they're not pussies when it comes to their lower legs being bare when it's raining outside. Hell no. Look, I came out here walking today and someone was like, it's going to rain today. And I was like, who fucking you telling? They're not pussies with, well, first of all, pussies are strong.

Thank you. You've established that. Pussies are very strong. Thank you. Uh, but they're, they're not weak when it comes, well first of all pussies are strong. Thank you. You've established that. Pussies are very strong. Thank you. But they're not weak when it comes to believing that a sweatshirt is a rain jacket. Look, and not weak about being okay with smelling like dog for three months a year.

Everywhere you go just smells like basement and they're all okay with it. It's fine. And it's fine. It's dog country. Speaking of, if you're listening to it, now is a time, just a life tip, wash your hoodie. If you're listening to this right now, Yeah, I can go in the washing machine. Yeah, don't stop what you're doing.

Keep listening to the show. Just go wash your hoodie. I promise you it needs it. And you know what? If it makes the sleeves too short, take it out when it's damp and stretch the sleeves out a little bit, let it dry flat. That's a good tip.

That's a good tip. That's a good tip. That's a good tip. That's a good tip. Or you can do that thing where you like cut the hole in the sleeve and then like that'll help it stretch out a little bit too. But just, I swear to God, wherever you are right now, please go wash your hoodie. Yeah, definitely cut the hole in the sleeve.

We know that you're a bunch of nasty adult thumb suckers. Yeah, you nasty nasties. We know what kind of people y'all are. I gotta go suck my nasty a total thumb can we yeah We'll be back in just a second on Jordan. Jesse go If you need a laugh and you're on the go try st. O P P O DCA STI Hmm. Are you trying to put the name of the podcast there? Yeah, I'm trying to spell it, but it's tricky Let me give it a try. Okay

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But you know what I might love even more? Talking about movies. And the directors, actors, and writers that join me every week on Feeling Scene love to talk about movies too. Like our recent co-host, the writer and director, and writers that join me every week on Feeling Seen love to talk about movies too. Like our recent co-host, the writer and director Justin Simian. And I love the premise of your show, Feeling Seen. I think that's kind of always my goal when I'm making something. Nothing touches my heart more than when someone comes out of my movie and says,

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Table. Oh! Is this one of these that is both an audio podcast and a YouTube show? Yes, it is both an audio podcast and a YouTube. Yeah, it's- Called Goblin Mode. Yeah, it's called Goblin Mode.

It's on the Geek and Sundry YouTube. You can also find it wherever you find podcasts. We did in, in cooperate, that's not the word. I do not know words, but also along with realm podcaster and it's so yeah, the sound design and it is actually like fucking amazing. I was really surprised because I wasn't like expecting it. But yeah, so if you enjoy watching me do the TTRPG, especially now that my my dropout dimensionension 20, Misfits and Magic 2, that season has ended. You can catch up on all of those. But if you're looking for something to do, you know what day doesn't have enough going on? January 6th. So if you wanna find-

I had something planned, but I had to cancel it. Yeah, so if you're thinking, you're just like, you know what, there is nothing else I associate with January 6th, and I would like to associate something with it. The back half of season one of Goblin Mode premieres on January 6th, so you've got time to catch up. The episodes are actually shorter,

because usually TTRPG episodes, those things can go from like two hours to three hours. These are usually about an hour, hour and a half. Is this a bunch of nerd celebrities? You got Weird Al Yankovic on there and all that kind of thing? Someday. We do have Ify Wadiwe.

Hey, I was about to say, I literally was about to say, I could name about four people that would be on this. I know Sam Riegel's on the other one. So it's not him. We're down to Felicia Day and Ify Wadiwe in terms of who I know that I could list that might be on this one.

Yeah, so he is a guest player on one of our arcs. to Felicia Day and Ify Wadaway in terms of who I know that I could list that might be on this one. Yeah, so he is a guest player on one of our arcs, so we get him I think for two or three episodes, which was fantastic. Every episode you bring in a different muscle man. So one at Lufaric now. Dave Bautista before he remembered health. You gotta get that rugby lady. Batista before he remembered health. Things like that. But yeah.

You gotta get that rugby lady. Look, don't, yes, we gotta get that rugby lady. Yeah, can she, does she play dice? I'll look it up. Sure. We can teach her, we can teach her. We'll teach her. Is there a rugby muscle lady?

Yeah. Yes. The Olympian, Alona Farber was her name? Yes, and she was also just on Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, she was great. Oh. She was fantastic. Almost won.

She very muscular? Yeah, because she plays rugby. And rugby, they will murder you. For a while, my childhood best friend Pete played rugby. He quit the football team and decided to play adult rugby in Golden Gate Park. So every Saturday, he would play rugby in Golden Gate Park with So every Saturday he would play rugby in Golden Gate Park with all these, you know, Simone guys and everything.

And then just on Sundays, I remember for our entire like junior and senior year of high school, I would go see him at his house on Sundays. He would just be lying on the couch groaning. Just truly like going, oh. Oh, that sounds awful. But you know, I have thought about playing child rugby. I think I could really get into some child rugby.

Show those kids who's boss. You know, I try and approach every walk down the sidewalk as a rugby gamer. Yes, we've established. Hey, I gotta find the holes. Get in the pocket. Other sports terms. What is your guy on Goblin Mode?

What is your character? My guy on Goblin Mode, her name is Bizzy. She's a skeleton. Kind of the your guy on Goblin Mode? What is your character? My guy on Goblin Mode, her name is Bizzy. She's a skeleton. Kind of the conceit of Goblin Mode is that we are these like minions who our big bad evil guy, like our boss, has just been murdered. And so now we're trying to figure out what it means to be in the world when we were essentially just like the people that you kill the first level. Low level monsters. Yeah, low level monsters. So now, yeah, you know, there's like born sexy

yesterday. I call it like born evil yesterday because we're all just coming into the world and we don't understand. And so I'm busy. Busy is very, I like to think of her as kind of like Leslie, like evil Leslie Knope. She's very efficient. She's very into being, you know, she's got like her clipboard. She's really into middle management. She inspires to be middle management. She's very into being, you know, she's got like her clipboard. She's really into middle management. She inspires to be middle management She's one of these Skeletors. Yeah, she's one of these Skeletors Running around here. You know what I like like a clackety clackety clack kind of thing. Sometimes I've she does throw her head at people I've had her that was part of the reason why I wanted to be a skeleton cuz I wanted to throw the head You want to throw the head? Yeah, like want to play my ribs as xylophones.

I want to use my fingertips as darts. Yeah, if you're a goblin or something, the only bones you can really use is teeth. Yeah. I wish we had video. That's a great point. The immediate face that Jesse made when he said teeth, it was kind of terrifying.

It was a good take. It was a good take. I like it when people call skeletons skellies. Yeah, well, skellies, look at that. Skellies. And so, yeah, and it's like learning empathy and learning how to whatever. And so.

What the fuck, Evra? Whatever, fucking Evra. Fucking bipedal, look, skeletons bipedal. Thank you. Skeletons are bipedal, wait. I can't, look, is it too late for us to add a fucking Minotaur now that we've talked about? You know what, it's edited, you can drop one in. I think we gotta drop it.

Here, me and Jordan will give you a few wild takes. Yeah, here we go, here we go, fucking Minotaur, let's go. One, two, three, you know you need unique New York. Okay. Red leather, yellow leather, red, two, three. You know you need unique New York. Okay. Red leather, yellow leather. Red leather, yellow leather. Welcome to my maze.

Check out my dick. Perfect. Do you want any more takes on that? Yeah, I need at least like one more. Jesse? I'm Tumescent. Welcome to my maze. Check out my dick.

Suck my horn. There it is. Suck my horn there it is suck my horn I think that one's that that one's gonna get a lot of use yeah thank you particularly from my cuz we don't have to just drop about this clippity clippity clippity clippity fuck fuck fuck fuck so yeah so just drop that in and we'll see y'all at the live show We'll see y'all at the live show at the Hollywood Bowl. I go to the Hollywood Bowl, yeah! Selling it out! Hey, let me just say, congratulations on doing a type of podcast people want to listen to.

We're trying to get in on that. We spent a long time doing a type that no one wants. Have you thought about adding dice? We should add dice! We should put dice in! I'm very firm in my belief. Abolish dice. I'm sorry, I will not add dice. You're not gonna add dice in. I'm very firm in my belief, abolish dice.

I'm sorry, I will not add dice. You're not gonna add dice. No kind of, no kind of spot in Spontaneous. I'm sorry, I will not. No, have you thought of doing like a long, y'all have been podcasting together for how long now? 45 years. Yeah, I think 45 years.

So I think it's about time. It's our golden anniversary. We've done the slow burn, I just think it's time when you finally start getting on that Friends to lovers arc. I think that's what you need to get people really picked on. Well, there's going to be friends to enemies to lovers.

So we're going to have a little step. Well, look. And you've got that Hilton Golden membership. Maybe you go to a Hilton and there's only one bed. Oh. I call Sybil Shepherd. You call Sybil Shepherd. See?

That could be Bruce Willis. Yes! Get that harmonica, baby. I'm Bruno. You're Bruno. I'm Bruno. Prep the Hilton. Yeah.

Prep the Hilton. Bruno's a-coming. Welcome to my maze. Remember when Bruce Willis's family put out that sad note about why he was retiring from acting? The part they left out is because he always thinks he's Bruno now You can't go back to being regular old Bruce Bruno you have a Planet Hollywood opening to get to That's what happens at Planet Hollywood.

Bruce Willis plays harmonica and then sings the Frasier theme song. But what part of Seattle is Frasier from? Great question. My band, Dogstar. That's Keanu Reeves' band. That was Keanu Reeves' band, right? Thirty Seconds to Mars, I think, was Bruce Willis' band. Yeah, Bruce Willis was in 30 Seconds to Mars.

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