Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Ep. 196: Bird Play with Elizabeth Laime

Episode Date: October 17, 2011

Elizabeth Laime from the Totally Laime podcast joins us to talk about unemployment, astrology retreats and snake-like sexuality.

Give a little time for the child within you, don't be afraid to be young and free. Unto the locks and throw away the keys, and take off your shoes and socks and run you. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. And I'm Jordan Morris, boy detective. And this is... Jordan, Jesse, go! Icicles, tricycles, ice cream, candy, lollipops, popsicles, licorice sticks, Solomon, friendly, go.

We're joined by Elizabeth Lane to talk about astrology retreats and the wonders of unemployment. Let's go. It's Jordan, Jesse, go. I am Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Beautiful evening here in the Mountain Chalet. Mountain Chalet, does that work? That makes it seem more erotic than it is.

It's pretty erotic. I live here, Jordan. That's true. I mean, you know about my sinuous eroticism. Yeah, I mean, I'm aware that you think you have it. Look at me. I'm moving like you think you have it Look at me I'm moving like a snake Is a snake erotic? A sex snake is

Do you just put sex on the front of something What is that noise? Is that him biting you on the penis? It's a snake taking a chomp out of your sexuality And consuming it Making it part of his own Boy, I have so much to learn about sexuality. Yeah, you really do.

Did you not take sex ed? No, I didn't. I guess it's because you went to that snake handler school where the snake was purely religious and not sexual. Right, whereas I'm from San Francisco. Right. Yeah, I went to public school in San Francisco, so that's probably what this is about.

So they learned about snake bites and their connection to sexuality. Yeah, I mean, the first three years of high school in San Francisco, so that's probably what this is about. So they learned about snake bites and their connection to sexuality. Yeah, I mean, the first three years of high school in San Francisco is exclusively a curriculum called world sexuality. Oh, wow. And then senior year is all key parties. It's just learning how to properly throw a key party. We should introduce our guest. She is the host of the Totally Lame podcast. throw a key party. We should introduce our guest. She is the host of the Totally Lame podcast.

She does dog agility training with her dog. I went to her house one time. I wasn't 100% sure she wasn't going to be a murderer. Please welcome to the show Elizabeth Lame. Hi, Elizabeth. How are you? Hi. So excited to be here.

Now, Elizabeth. Yes. Elephant in the room. I think let's excited to be here. Now, Elizabeth. Yes. Elephant in the room. I think let's get it out of the way up top. Okay. Your podcast was part of the Earwolf Challenge. Uh-huh. Earwolf, a popular podcasting network, and they kind of had a top chef-like reality show to find the next podcast to get on the network.

Yes. You guys won. Congratulations. Congratulations, won. Congratulations. Congratulations, Elizabeth. Thank you. Jesse and I, both at a point in the season, in the run, were judges. And while I imagine we were mostly complimentary to you because your podcast is good, I imagine that we were at least a little bit critical.

Oh, yeah. Well, you know what let let's let's uh let's move forward fresh start okay i don't honestly remember because you're super baked when you podcast yes i don't remember anything okay in my past everything is here moving forward no um i do how do you know, like, drive and where your clothes are and stuff? I don't drive and I don't dress myself. You really sound like, like Roseanne Arquette in some sort

of police procedural on CBS. How so? Well, I could say the hook is that the detective can't remember anything that happened before. Someone has to drive them around and stuff, but they're amazing at solving crimes.

That's absolutely right. Particularly rapes. It's called fugue state. Yeah. Fugue state. I'm only amazing at, I'm amazing at getting raped, not solving rape crimes, so.

Oh, well, that is another great CBS recipe, Jerome. It's just Jimmy Smits follows this woman around who's constantly getting sexually assaulted. I catch rapists. It's called Jimmy Smits follows this woman around who's constantly getting sexually assaulted. I catch rapists. It's called asking for it.

Oh, my God. Yes, that's absolutely right. But no, I was going to say, I mean, I want, you know, tit for tat. I mean, if you feel like you want to be critical of Jesse and I, I mean, you know, full speed ahead. I welcome it. I welcome it. I welcome it. I agree completely. Whatever critical thing you want to say about Jordan, just go ahead and say it.

About Jordan. How could I criticize you? You have this gorgeous hair. It's true. It's amazing. Thank you. Oh, you're just making me feel shitty for criticizing. You're just like taking the high road.

No. Oh, you bitch. Jordan, your hair has a certain sinuous sexuality. Yeah, it's like a head full of genital biting snakes. You're like a male Medusa. It is exactly that. Thank you. Thank you.

Elizabeth, we... I'll turn your vagina to stone by looking at it. That's not sexual. We briefly discussed... I have no memory of how I evaluated your podcast on this program but knowing that it was me it was almost certainly negative and in jordan's case i'm pretty sure that jordan was negative yeah i actually it's all coming back to me you guys now that we said the magic word negative um this is for sweeps in your show. You get your memories back. That's amazing. Jordan

was negative, but I think deservedly. Do you remember which challenge it was that you were on? I'm going to be embarrassed. I think the challenge the week I was the judge was you guys just kind of presenting a three-minute snippet of what the show was like. See, that's actually reasonable. I would argue that the fundamental flaw of this reality competition show, as I understood it, was when I was there, everyone had to do an audio production was the challenge.

Oh. And some of the shows, some of the best shows were bullshit shows like this, including your own. It just keeps it coming. What are they going to do? Like add in a rainstorm in the background? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think that was the interesting thing about the challenge. It's called the Earwolf Challenge, if people want to check it out.

It was horrifying for us. I don't think they should. Yeah. Just listen. Go listen to our podcast now because we're the Kelly Clarkson of podcasts. I'd recommend Sklarbro Country. I'm going to evaluate your sexy snake. I have some pointers.

Yeah. That was weird competing with something that we just do. It's just us. We don't try to do anything. So it was weird, like competing with something that we just do. You know, it's just us. We don't try to do anything. So it was weird putting into a competitive thing, and everyone felt that way. If you're going to be competitive, it's going to be in dog agility. Abso-fucking-lutely, Jesse Thorne. Canine agility is going to be the focus of any competitive activities that you get into. That's right, and we're champions.

Now, is there a specific kind of dog that's suited to dog agility? Is there a more agile breed of dog? I was going to suggest an agile dog would be a good way to go. Yeah. I help run a dog rescue, so I'm going to say a rescue dog. Oh, that's fun. I'll tell you. I once went to our friend Al Madrigal, once organized a benefit here in Los Angeles for 826, the National Literacy Organization, headed by Mr. I believe his name is Dave Egers.

And it was a monster. It's Dove Egers. Excuse me. It's Dove Egers. It's Dove Davidoff, right? Yes, it is. It's Chocolate Sundaes at the Laugh Factory. That's not really correct.

It's the Joe Rogan Podcasting Network, if I'm not mistaken. There was this amazing lineup of stand-up comedians. Al was on the show. I remember Dana Gould was on the show. I think maybe Maria Bamford was on the show.ians. Al was on the show. I remember Dana Gould was on the show. I think maybe Maria Bamford was on the show. Maybe Patton was on the show. Bill Burr was on the show. It was like a real murderer's row. And right

in the middle, there was a dog act. And I gotta tell you, the best part was the dog act. I mean, these are all of my favorite... Comedy's my favorite thing. All of these are my favorite comedians. But I gotta say, this guy had a rescue dog

act. He had a team of performing rescue dogs. They all were different. Some were big, some were little, some were fat, some were thin. Had a beautiful daughter that was his assistant. She was an adult, I want to make that clear. He was an older man.

And this act was spectacular. It just blew the house down. It was like, why is there a dog act in the middle of this comedy show? Because it was the best part of the whole show. Because it's amazing. That's right. Yeah. Dogs.

The dog agility world is really interesting. And I mean, we're not proud members of it, but we're also like, we also, our dog fucking wins. So what can we do? So you guys maybe, you know, you don't go to the mixers. Maybe you don't, you know, go to the cons, but you just kind of, you know, you kind of shuffle into town. We show up and motherfucking dominate. And then just, and then just this wisp out like a tumbleweed. You just, you just come in, you just raise two middle fingers and say, sorry, lesbians, the lames are in town.

That's right. Yeah. Because that's who does that, right? Exactly. Also, you're homophobic in that scenario. So there's two reasons why you would say that. I hate lesbians. Right.

And you're like, what's the way we can slight the most lesbians in the shortest amount of time? Oh, become heterosexuals who are good at dog agility. Exactly. I am interested. We talked about this when I was on your podcast a couple of years ago. I still want to do dog agility with my dogs. That sounds like the greatest thing ever. years ago, I still want to do dog agility with my dogs. That sounds like the greatest thing ever, except my dogs are...

My newer dog, Sissy, is dumb as a rock. Just dumb as a rock. She's very, very affectionate and a real sweet pup, but dumb as a stone. And I'm not going to lie to you, my other dog Coco has gotten more distant from me. I don't know how she would feel about taking my command. That could be a great way to reconnect. I hate talking so earnestly about this because there's no comedy to be found here. I'm all business. But it might be a great way to connect with her.

We should explain that your business is buying and selling rescue dogs. When you say that you run a dog rescue, it's a for-profit. Yes, podcasting and dog rescue, we figured out where the money is. In this economy, that doesn't mean anything. Have I ever talked about roof dog

before on Jordan Jesse Go? Yeah, you have. There's this dog that's on your neighbor's garage roof. Oh, that's always a bummer. No, I mean, here's the thing. He's happy up there? Well, he's cross. He's having fun.

What I want to do is, I'm going to, I'll post this, I'll post a link to this video that I shot. I think, so for people who didn't hear the previous time

that I had talked about this, on my path that I walk my dogs every day, there is a garage with a peaked roof, you know, like a pointy roof. And when we walk past it, there is this big golden retriever that is usually at the apex of the peak of this garage roof. Just flipping the fuck out. I mean, just, and he is not a fan of us, I will tell you. And I'm, here, I'm just going to show, I'm going to show Elizabeth the video of it here. You can see that this dog is on top of a garage.

But I think it would be, I think it might be good to teach this dog agility. He's very agile. Somehow he's gotten onto this roof. He opened a window somewhere. No, I've seen, yes, maybe he could be a breaking and entering dog. That's right. I think I've seen, I've been at the fair and I've seen, yes, maybe he could be a breaking and entering dog. That's right. I think I've seen, I've been at the fair and I've seen those dogs who jump into water, like they do a long jump. Yeah. Is that maybe good for this dog?

That would be, I think, well, actually he has yet to jump, it looks like. He's still up on the roof, so I don't know. Is there some kind of roof barking competition at all in Agility? Because I think that's what I would like to point him towards. Yeah. Or maybe just to generalize a little bit more, a dog in a place a dog shouldn't be competition. So maybe he's one. Maybe there's one that's behind the wheel of a car.

Maybe one where he's like swimming through a vat of chocolate at a chocolate factory. That's good. Oh, yeah. Yeah. at a chocolate factory. That's good. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I just want to say I don't applaud people who leave their dogs on peaked roofs. Right. Sure. As an advocate for homeless animals, you should come out against

even though it's funny. I thought of something really cool. What if one of the dogs in the competition is flying like a World War I open cockpit biplane?

That's terrific. Oh, my God. He has goggles. He's got on goggles and a little scarf. Sure. Or maybe we could have some poker playing dogs. Oh, yeah. Can you imagine?

It's a little done. Can you imagine? What? That's old hat. What are you talking about? What if they were playing Mahjong? There you go. Yes.

What if they were gambling at Mahjong? They should be playing, just to make it a little bit edgy, Russian roulette. Like it's a bunch of Vietnam War bed dogs. And they're all wearing their combat jackets? Yeah, and they just have this fuck it look on their face. Or what if they're playing Settlers of Catan? I was just going to say that. They have skinny jeans on and a mustache tattoo on their finger,

and they're playing Settlers of Catan. Oh, that's funny that you describe that as the prototypical Settlers of Catan player, because I maybe more thought of, when I think of Settlers of Catan enthusiasts, I think, you know, long cargo shorts, overcoat, over t-shirt. Oh. I think that here in Los angeles there is perhaps even more than in other places there is a large community of uh of tight pants dorks like those two things go together yeah it's more than usual here in los angeles And I'm not going to lie, you guys.

We settle. When you say we, you mean you and your husband? My husband and I, we settle. And so our friends mostly live in Silver Lake. I'd say they have a foot in that demographic and then a foot in about to have babies demographic. Okay. So yeah, that's the only reason I said that.

Okay. Like a stubbly type fella? That's absolutely right, yeah. I was thinking of more a Kevin Smith-y type fella. Okay, yeah, I see. But he hangs out at the game store. That type of fella. Can you...

How many days for you to get full beard, Jesse? I can't generate a full beard. I only wish that I could. I would have had a full beard since college. I would say I aspired to

grow a full beard in roughly 2001 and I've been continually frustrated by my inability to do so. Colin Walzak, our intern is nodding. Do you, you can't grow a full beard now?

He's a handsome man though. He doesn't have to worry about it. He doesn't have a weak jaw to hide. I've got a weak jaw to hide. But you know what? I think it's, I think it's ultimately good because the older you get, I don't like it when the beard starts to creep up towards the cheek area.

Uh-huh. And also— It could get in your eyes. It irritates the skin, all of the constant dealing with it. It ages people. I do have a fairly thick beard, but I get so—I'm so sensitive to being itchy that I, there's been times when I've thought, I'm like, oh, let's try a little facial hair. Let's just let this go for a couple of days.

I get so itchy and like, I, I'm, I don't know. I feel like I'm like, I'm eight. Like the itchiness is like my worst fear. I don't know. I'm so sensitive to it. Itchiness is your worst fear? More than war or dying alone. Okay.

It's itchiness. I have to tell you, Jordan, that I think that you would... I don't think you would look good with a beard, probably. Yeah, I suspect not. That's maybe why I haven't pursued it. I think you would look... I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say, I think if you grew

like a walrus mustache, you would look really good. I mean, it would be... You're trying to get me to do something to make me look stupid. No, I think you could grow a walrus mustache and I think you could really pull it off. My dad had a walrus mustache. I bet he looked great, right?

I bet he did. I think you should go for it. What a small upper lip. Notoriously small upper lip. Let me see your mouth. Yeah. You definitely should do it. Oh, wow. You're like, oh, wow, that's a terrible mouth and you should do it. Oh, wow. You're like, oh, wow, that's a terrible mouth and you should hide it. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. That's fine. Look, we'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse, go. It's Jordan, Jesse, go. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris. Hey, gang, Jesse here. Love you, love you, love you, love you So suffice it to say that, gosh, it would sound better if we had her saying this, but she said, Elizabeth Lame, rape receiver. I'm just kidding. Let's change it to hi-fi receiver. How about that?

There you go. Sorry. We cannot call you Elizabeth Lame. We can't go back to that i just oh god i just came from this ladies retreat and i'm i think i'm like overcompensating in the other direction because it's been very like touchy-feely and what are the what was the nature of this ladies retreat was this like i'm gonna i'm just gonna assume there was a lot of lesbo stuff. Yeah.

Specifically dog agility. To counter my hatred of dog agility lesbians, let me just say, I love retreat lesbians. Sure. Who doesn't? You know what? Here's the thing. Dog agility lesbians, they may very well be

community-minded, improve the neighborhood lesbians, they may very well be community-minded, improve-the-neighborhood lesbians, which is one of the best kinds of people that you could ever have in your life. Of course. I love them all, truly. But when we're competing, you know, that fades away. Sure. In your community-minded life, you're a sucker for the sapphic. That's right.

But when it comes to dog agility, you've got them in your crosshairs. So I want to hear, but what was the nature of this retreat? Well, my friend, I went into it completely blind. She just said, we're going to Ojai. It's a bunch of awesome women and bring journals. And I was like, journals, ladies, I'm in. But it turns out it was... Who was there? Carol Mosley Braun. Alanis Morissette.

Yes. Miss Piggy. Sure. All the great feminists. Yes, of our time. She's like, listen, if you feel like the patriarchy is keeping you down,

just karate chop it. Yeah. Just with your whole body. Tammy Faye Baker you down, just karate chop it. Yeah. Just with your whole body. Tammy Faye Baker? No, because she passed away, right? She was there in spirit. Yeah. Susan Sontag.

Who's that? Feminist theorist? Suzanne. I wouldn't know. Suzanne Summers? She's the real deal. Suzanne was there, yes. Yeah, okay.

Suze, if you know her like I do. Suze Orman? Suze, all the Su yes. Yeah, okay. Suze, if you know her like I do. Suze Orman? Suze, all the Suzes. Yeah, sure. But it ended up being an astrology-oriented retreat. So did you know that going in? I knew Wish It, but I didn't realize how big a part it would play. And what's your relationship to astrology going into this?

I know being a lady, you're automatically more prone to astrology. Prone. To receive astrology. Prone to be inflicted by astrology. Astrology forces itself upon you. Jimmy Smits is involved. Yeah, I mean, I knew what my sign was. That was pretty much it. Wait, let me guess. I mean, we've what my sign was. That was pretty much it.

Wait, let me guess. I mean, we've known each other for a while. I've been on your podcast. You've been on mine. I'm going to say Leo. No. Capricorn. No.

Hydra. Yes. Oh, you're a typical Hydra. You are such a classic Hydra. All seven heads of you. What about Juno, the catfish? Juno? Yeah, the catfish? Juno? Yeah, the catfish of the sky.

Oh, no. No? I bet we're the same sign. Really? Yeah. What sign is that? Virgo. No.

I don't know what that is. Are you Capricorn? Is that the goat? No, I'm not a Capricorn. Virgo is like the goddess. Oh. But she's very... Is that because of my sexuality?

Yes. Your snake-like sexuality. Yeah. You're slithering. But Virgo is very... I mean, sorry, the negative would be uptight, detail-oriented, critical, which I might not project, but in my brain, that is totally how I am.

You seem loosey-goosey. That's right. Easy going. Oh, it's all a facade, you guys. Wow, you're just judging us and making little notes. No, no, it's never you. It's always me. Oh, wow.

That's the Virgo curse. Interesting. So you only kind of knew that that's... What were you expecting? Fishing? I was expecting a lot of like... Settlers of Catan. Foot races.

A lot of... Yeah. Potato sack races. Yeah. Egg drop. No, I was expecting a lot of like poetry. Egg drop soup. Egg drop soup.

Specifically. Yeah, I was expecting it to be like some kumbaya and like poetry and writing and reading and some crying. Yeah. Okay. So you had to bring journals, plural. Yes. Now, were these journals you had filled up already or these just... No, no, no. Okay.

Empty, clean slate. Sure. So it was really great i mean it is everything you would think it would be times a hundred but you guys i drank the kool-aid like wow you're in now i dove in oh geez what what how how can your life be benefited by astrology? Sell me on it. Okay, one way that I found, something I found about myself is that all of my planets on my personal astrology chart, the way we're born, we each have a chart. That's kind of cool already. It's like a thumbprint.

I was born nude. You were? Yeah, I don't remember. My son was born recently. I do not remember a chart, but it was pretty intense. The whole thing was pretty intense. He was wrapped up in it

like a burrito. It's in the placenta. Did you guys throw that away? Oh, the chart's fucking gone now. Big mistake. You gotta go through the dumpster at the hospital. I just sold it to some lady

who wanted to eat it. No, she was just after the chart. Just after the chart. He is gonna have a hard time at his retreat. In 30 years.

I'm gonna have to send him to a different kind of retreat. Maybe the Lions Club lady auxiliary. There you go. Yeah. Those losers. So you're born with you go. Yeah. Those losers. So you're born with a chart.

This chart contains planets. Now, these are just the eight or nine planets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ones you know. Do we still count Pluto? We don't. Pluto's gone, right? But astrologers do.

Okay. Most of my planets lie in one place on my chart, which is very rare. And that is what you have a lot of power in and this is surprising to me because i don't feel like i have a lot of power in this but all of my planets are in the career spot okay like some people have stuff in family and home and yeah i'm like a fucking badass now. I'm going after my career. I'm laser focused. I assumed, and it's just because of where my brain is, I guess,

that you were going to say that all of your planets were in your Korean chart, which would mean that you're really good at fermenting stuff. Keep it up. You're either astonishingly successful or astonishingly poor, depending on your latitude. But in all ways good at painting nails. Yes, that's true. Racist, but true. Sure.

Sometimes it's true. Iist, but true. Sure. Sometimes it's true. I just said fermenting stuff. Yeah. Also, soju cocktail in hollowed out pineapple. Yeah, so many soju cocktails. That's my favorite Korean thing. So a lot of soju cocktails. Make a lot of soju cocktails.

So your career is, do you feel like that's the case? No, I haven't, but I feel like it's given me permission to be like, all right, fuck yeah, I'm going to do it, you know? What's your dream, NFL head coach? Hey, Jordan. Jordan. What? I'm sorry.

Don't squash my dream. No, you could be. Thank you. You could be. I'm sorry. I was laughing at something else. I was thinking of something that happened on Whitney.

Oh my god. It was really bitchy. Yes. My dream is to write in comedy. I want to Larry David my shit. I want to write and then have something of my own.

Oh, so you want to be the star of this project as well. Eventually, yeah. Well, I think we can all learn a lot from Whitney, especially your billboards. Yes. So there's, and I don't want to, I don't mean to pry. I mean, we've just met and I certainly don't want to get too personal. Is there a sex portion of the chart? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Okay. There's like sensuality. There's family. There's, I mean, there's all sorts. There's community. There's all sorts of stuff. Okay.

My chart probably has a snake in the sexuality area. I would imagine it does. Yeah. So there's, it I would imagine it does. Yeah. So it's like a pie chart? Yeah. Okay. It comes down to that, you guys. So now that you've gone on this retreat, and now that you have...

I also want to say a lot of other normal girls, I won't say names, but people that you know and respect. Susan Sontag. I think we shan't say anyone's name, but we will say that roughly 20% of the past guests of Jordan, Jesse, Go! were apparently on this retreat. Basically, every

single... Paul Provenza. Paul Provenza was there. He's a lady, by the way. He is. Mark Maron was a dream, you guys. Yeah. And I cradled him. Yeah.

It was fantastic. He had some very nice God's eyes. Did you compare your charts with the other ladies at this retreat? Were you jealous of anyone else's star points? Yeah. I know that on Twitter, I will get jealous of how many star points someone gets for a tweet on fave star i wonder if the same thing happens at a lady's astrology retreat um yeah there was a little bit of that but it was mostly like was there anyone with like 10 checks

in the sexuality one and you're like oh god i wish i was so that fucking sexy yeah yeah okay so what's the okay so there was some filling out of star charts yeah what was there any like god i'm when i think of retreat i mean i think trust fall human not um things like that was there anything kind of physical? Everything you think of was there. Okay. Everything. My arms are sore from holding.

What? You held each other? There was lots of holding. Was this like a tender hold or like some sort of lifting? All of it. Was it at all like cheerleader camp? No, it wasn't. Okay. Because I went to cheerleader camp to see thorn uh-huh and um that was that was that was hard work it was competitive sounds great though yeah yeah this was uh this was hard work but in a in a really lovely way i will say oh that's really nice. Speaking of holding in lesbian stuff, there was a while I have this friend.

She was on Jordan Jessie Go a few months ago, months ago, years ago. God, at this point, you were in your old Koreatown house. Yeah. Rachel Cantu, who is a lesbian singer-songwriter and kind of has a big following in that scene. And there was a while where I used to just go to all her shows because she was my friend and kind of got to know the people, you know, her

regulars and the people in the other bands. And it was very... It was mostly lesbians and it became the most... the most... the hugginest... This was the hugginest event that i could go to and uh there were so many hugs when i went to these and and kind of at the zenith of my going to her shows

like it was just you know hugs for hugs for miles and uh just kind of for for whatever reason just kind of for for busyness and i think she started kind of doing other things, is, you know, we've kind of drifted apart, and I definitely miss talking to her, but I certainly, I absolutely miss just this kind of biweekly hug session I would have. And, yeah. Did you ever hook up with any of those gals?

No. Have you ever considered ladies as a romantic partner, Jordan? I mean, it sounds crazy. I mean, we don't have anything in common. That's very true. I know that you're not a lesbian, Jordan. What would we talk about? It was just National Coming Out Day.

Yeah. And I just want to give you some space. I can come out as a lesbian. Okay. I mean, I do enjoy their hugs. Sure. And I feel like the, you know, the— coming out day yeah and i just want to give you some space i can come out as a lesbian okay i mean i do enjoy their hugs and i feel like and i feel like the you know what about their practicality sure yeah uh but i i definitely felt like and and and this is and this is this is generalizing i realize but um you know i feel like you know there's the there's the heterosexual platonic

hug which is kind of sideways and and kind of is a half shoulder check sometimes. Right. But I felt like these lesbian folk music enthusiast hugs were full body. There was a sound involved. It was very loving. And I don't know. I just miss it.

I got to say that my experience is that my wife went to Sarah Lawrence College, home of the lesbian. Oh, yeah. The fighting lesbians. Yeah. That's their mascot. I think they're – no, they actually – they just decided that was demeaning, and they just changed their mascot to Susan Sontag. Okay. The fighting Sontags.

She went to Sarah Lawrence College, and so all of her best college buddies are lesbians. I mean, she has one or two non-lesbian college buddies, but her close college friends are essentially a group of lesbians who think it's funny that she's not a lesbian. Right. And I have the best time hanging out with those lesbians. I mean, it's just wonderful.

Oh, yeah. It's the best. It's the best. It's the best. Anyway, we're getting too far away from this astrology situation. I brought so much estrogen. I love how we... Lesbians has cloaked this entire podcast. You know how a lot of rappers want to have sex with lesbians?

We just want lesbians to be our friends. I just want some hugs. to be our friends. That's right. I just want some hugs. Yeah, just some hugs. I mean, sexuality unimportant. I'm just saying that my ratio has been the best. Where have I gotten the best hugs recently in my life from lesbians?

I mean, I'm open to any kind of hug from anyone of any sexuality. Well, this is what I want. I want something very specific. Okay. I want to hang out at the dog park for a while and then get in the Subaru and go watch the game. Yeah. That's what I want.

Sure. You got it all. Yep. Absolutely everything. I could provide dog park and Subaru, but the game, you lost me. Yeah. Well, you know, that's how it breaks. You know, that's why you're here and

you're not actually my friend oh jesse no we could be we might become friends we might become friends i'm not gonna i'm not gonna put a label on our relationship right now right now we're colleagues but who knows what could happen in the future that's right especially if you become a friendly practical lesbian okay i'll get on it. Yeah. I will. Maybe start a community garden. I don't know.

That's a good first step. So you just do regular... Do the regular retreat activities include astrological themes? Like, is it the Sagittarius ropes course it's untangle yourself from Orion's belt um I mean not that you sound like a fucking idiot no I'm just kidding wow listen to yourself um no but yeah everything did have an astrology lesson in it okay sure um wait i never found like when you're like at a you know like a youth group or church camp everything has like a biblical message yes it's just like it was like that hey that game of dodgeball we just played

those balls were like the criticisms lobbed at christ from the pharisees yes did you go to i did yeah i have i have been to a couple of christian themed summer camps or. Did you go to Jesus? I did. Yeah. I have been to a couple of Christian-themed summer camps. Or like if you go to a retreat as a resident advisor at UC Santa Cruz, everything has a who's your queer-o theme, which is your gay hero. Mine is Barney Frank. Oh, Jesse. That sounds interesting. And mine is all hugging lesbians.

Were you an RA? Yeah, Jordan and I were both RAs. Oh, I love that. Do you know, I had a one-woman show that ran at UCB New York for two years where I played an RA. Not that you're bragging or anything. No, but this is relevant. Okay. I wanted to have some weight, you guys.

No, but this is relevant. Okay. I want it to have some weight, you guys. You didn't want people to think that this was one of those open and close type shows. No, it's not a fluff piece I'm talking about. Right. But I played an R.A., so I wanted us to all relate to each other. That's really cool. And I think we just did.

Yeah, so we've been R.A.'s. You've mocked R.A.'s from the stage. That's great. Not knowing anything about the hard work that goes into it. What would you say is the number one highlight of going to a ladies astrology retreat? Oh, God, that is really hard. But I'm going to say the community, the sense of community. You watch DVDs of community?

Yeah, we watched from season one community. The Sons of Community. You watch DVDs of Community? Yeah, we watched from season one Community. Man, Dan is a fucking genius. I've said F-words so many times. It's fine. No, we say that a lot on our show. Yeah, this is kind of low for us. Okay, good. We've kept it surprisingly clean outside of the rapes.

Also, I know there's been a lot of rape jokes, but it's not actually that high for us. Okay, good. What are your signs? I want to tell you about something. Oh, great. Awesome. I'm a for us. Okay, good. What are your signs? I'm going to tell you about something. Oh, great. Awesome. I'm a Taurus. Oh, okay.

I am also a Taurus, although I am a late Taurus, and I don't know if I got changed when things changed around. Okay. Well, Taurus is the, it's about. The bull. Yeah. So you have two sides to you. You have the bull that's laying in the field and like maybe you're a homebody and you like to just be in your spot.

That's the Ferdinand side. The Ferdinand, yes. You're Ferdinand at home. And then the other side is actually pretty sensual. You like to have sex. Jordan. You like to eat. You like to drink.

You like to have sex. At the same time. All three at the same time. You like to gore Matadors. Sure. Yeah. You guys go for what you want, and it's a kind of get-out-of-my-way situation. I don't care how many Spaniards are crushed beneath my feet.

That's right. Yeah. We also hate Spaniards. Yes. And Hemingway. Interesting. So I don't feel like I have that homebody side. I feel like I don't, but...

No, Jordan barely has a home. You're homeless. For the most part. has a place where i live in that he has a place where he sleeps and his cat lives yeah that's how i would describe and his video games are sure his video games live there definitely i call it the kitty zone not a homebody hmm i don't know then but i guess i mean i do enjoy relaxing well relaxing that's really part of it i am a homebody but i hate sex i don't like to be touched right you're like mike myers i don't buy that for a minute i saw your snake we'll be back in just a second on jordan jesse go it's jordan jesse go It's Jordan, Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Norton, America's radio sweetheart.

Jordan Morris, boy detective. Elizabeth Lame. Yeah, okay. Sure. I'll buy that for a dollar. Lots of A's. Okay, oh, just on the topic. Jesse, are you familiar with kind of where I'll buy that for a dollar was popularized? No.

Movie Robocop. Oh. Really? There's a fictional commercial in it where kind of a cheesy spokesman says, I'll buy that for a dollar. There's a Twitter robot that every time you mention Robocop in a tweet

will at reply you, I'll buy that for a dollar. That's amazing. And that is all it exists for. Someone programmed that. Yes. I've never seen Robocop. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, you should see Robocop. It's great. And that is all it exists for. Someone programmed that. Yes. I've never seen RoboCop. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, you should see RoboCop. It's great. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

I was wondering if I, just the other day, I was wondering if I should watch RoboCop. You should. Yeah. It's not beyond, it's not so, I don't think it would upset you. Jesse's a little delicate when it comes to movies. Oh. Yeah. Okay. The only thing I really like is Downton Abbey. Sure. Oh my gosh, The only thing I really like is Downton Abbey. Sure.

Oh my gosh, it's so good. Right? It is so good. Isn't it fucking amazing? How excited, because you know, the Brits.

Right. They're so short with their shows. I know. And we were devastated to think it was not. Not enough episodes. Yes, but it's coming.

There's going to be more episodes, Jordan. Don't worry. I was a little worried. Yeah, they're already airing in England. And let's just say that I have a friend who tapes them there for me and sends them to me. Your friend, John Torrent. Is that the one?

I've met him. I was worried because I loved season one of Downton Abbey so much. And I went from, wow, I really like this in the space of seven episodes to like, holy shit, this is the greatest thing outside of The Wire ever. Yes. And season two is every bit as much. I love it just as much. Wow. I can't wait. I just want to marry that television program.

Anyway. What's the guy's name? Mr. Bates? Mr. Bates? Mr. Bates. Oh, my God. I would suck his dick in an instant. He's amazing. Mr. Bates, if Mr. Bates touched me with his gentle eyes and asked me to service him, what could I say?

He is a gentleman's gentleman. There's no outro there. Yeah. I feel the same way about Gus from Breaking Bad. Oh, yeah. Jordan, speaking of Breaking Bad. Sure. There's something...

Nice segue. Yep. There's something that we have not yet addressed. It was going to be the primary topic, but we have been avoiding it for, this is the, will be the third segment of avoiding it. You know,

if it takes, if it takes a backseat to lesbian stuff, I'm fine with that. Sure. Well, I have, I have priorities. Sure.

Uh, you're a sucker for the sapphic. Right. I am. Um, Oh, to move to that Island. Um,

all the baklava you can eat. I know, right? That's why Jordan wants to move to that island. All the baklava you can eat. I know, right? That's why Jordan wants to move there. No, I actually think a better segue instead of Breaking Bad should have been, speaking of television shows one can get into, Jordan, you'll have a lot of time to get into new television shows because you'll be unemployed soon. Jordan has been,

for your benefit, Elizabeth, employed by the television program The Daily Habit on Fuel TV, the action sports network. You would probably know it, of course, they often air dog agility trials. Sure. Sponsored by Slim Jim. And Axe Body

Spray. All the dogs have to do double pits to chesty. What? This is a... Pits to chesty. Double pits to chesty. This is a thing. This is a campaign. I don't know if Axe Body Spray still does it.

This is employing famous action sports athletes. What you do with the Axe Body Spray, spray it under a pit, spray it under your other pit, you spray it across your tit, your, your chest, your tits,

your male tits. So double pits to chesty. And they had a bunch of famous skateboard guys all doing double pits to chesty before they jumped off something. It is really amazing to me that that thing is a,

is a real, it is like a category changing success. Yes. Yeah. Because the premise of it is, what if we made the worst thing ever with the worst message ever, right? Right. It's like, what if we just kicked decency in the balls and took a shit on its face? Yeah.

Right? Okay. Awful product with an awful commercial let's get back to your to your no no i didn't talk about x marketing x body sprays marketing campaign um yeah so so so i guess elizabeth's kind of what you know this this job started out i was doing kind of pa and coordinator work on tv shows kind of the low to upper low rung of TV work. Well, I mean, I would say that that Vietnamese variety show you were working on was mid to upper.

You're right. You're right. And yes, it was about six years ago, and then I met one of the producers for The Daily Habit through the kind of L.A. sketch comedy world. He had asked me if I ever wanted to try hosting. I tried it and took to it. And then a couple months later, I became a segment producer.

And that's kind of where I stayed for about six years now, I think. And now we just learned a couple days ago that the show is done in December, that it is canceled. December. It is cancelled. It's strange. I've been there so long and there's this practical side of me that knows, like, this is the career you've chosen. You've chosen television,

comedy, making. Action sports. You've chosen action sports television. Vehicles for acts. You know, that is the life of a television writer producer type is that you know shows get canceled you know if i was a producer on free agents i would also be out of job right um but it just hasn't happened to me in so long i'm having a really hard time looking at the sensible aspect of it which is this is just part of the business.

Right. And we should also, I mean, for context on this, it's not just that it hasn't happened to you in a long time. Right. You also have an unnatural, paralyzing fear of unemployment and poverty. Yeah, sure. And this is definitely, I feel like this was definitely a theme of early jordan jesse goes was how cheap is jordan uh-huh and um and you know and i i definitely feel like and i know we

haven't talked about it in a long long time but i definitely feel like i was kicking it you know and i was definitely you know i i definitely don't make a lot of extravagant purchases but you know i always you know i i I like to treat myself to nice meals. In a date situation, I always, always, always pay without, you know, without hesitation. I think I always pay my dates also. Sure, right. You pay them to keep quiet so Teresa doesn't find out. And, you know, like I, you know, I never hesitated to get a car wash or to have my house clean when I didn't have enough time.

You never hesitated to buy a new toothbrush. These were things that I absolutely didn't do before. I'm not someone who is afraid to get a quarterly haircut. Right. I will purchase new underwear when the old underwear gets too many holes. I'll go to the dentist once, twice a year. Sure. And, you know, so I definitely feel like I was kind of out of those woods.

And now I can definitely feel that thrifty bug crawling up my spine again, that fucking panic. And, you know, I don't really have any reason to. I've saved up enough money. Unemployment exists. I certainly make a little bit of money from Jordan Jesse Go. God bless you, people who donate money. I'd like to remind everyone you can buy ads on our Jumbotron. 206-9844-FUN.

Or MaximumFUN.org slash donate. Smooth. donate sure um so you know i'm not you know i'm in no you know i'm i'm not in danger of of you know losing my grip on reality right although i did my i called my mom to give her the news and my mom god lover's first reaction first thing she said this is the first thing she said to me after i told my mom the show is getting canceled in December. She's like, well, you can always get a job at Starbucks and you know you can move home anytime. And it was so sweet. But I'm like, you know what, Mom?

Fuck you. That's exactly what I didn't want to hear. That is like the worst. I know. I actually, I called my mom because we're working on trying to figure out how to make The Sound of Young America a bigger success in public radio world. It's very difficult for me. And she suggested that I get a job hosting a British television show. I love that.

She said they do weird things over there. Like Top Gear. Yeah, like Top Gear. You can host Top Gear, Jesse. I could stand awkwardly amongst a pool of people and say things that seem like jokes, but upon reflection are not jokes. But I think that's actually a fantastic suggestion where that doesn't parallel to, well, you can go work at Starbucks. And then move home, almost 30-year-old. She sent me an email after we had that conversation that she thought that what i need is to get my name

out there more and my mom who makes i'm probably in the high thirty thousand dollars a year as a college teacher uh offered to send me ten and has no savings i want to be clear offered to send me ten thousand dollars to hire a publicist which i think is sort of in her mind also an agent. That breaks... That is like... I love that. And also it's so devastating. Yes.

Not a functioning plan, I think is the moral of the story. Yeah. Jordan, I have to say... Yeah. I mean, I think everyone in the creative industry relates to that because even whatever level you get to,

I have a friend, her show of seven years just got canceled. Yeah. And, um, she's doing, I mean, whatever level you're at,

it's scary because you elevate your lifestyle to that level. Sure. And it's never, it is, it's, there's no stability ever. Yeah. Yeah.

You know? And so, I mean, I think it's so natural, but I have found, I mean, my husband and I, neither of us have stability, but it always does seem... Your house is built on the side of a cliff. Yes. As she mentioned earlier, they're settling.

We're settling, that's right. Both of Catan and... Yes, it's really cool when we're playing settlers of katan and you feel this drop um but i feel like things come along like that will surprise you and i know this sounds this is easier said than done but when now that that's done you can put your energy out there to like i'm open to to the next thing. Yeah. And it might be something even cooler. You just, you know, let's hope. I mean, this is really an opportunity for you to take your artistic dick out.

Yeah. And see what touches it. You're right. Hopefully it's that handsome fellow from Downton Abbey. Oh. It's not so much his handsomeness. It's like his grace, right? It's just his essence.

Yeah, his soul. Like his pure's like his grace, right? It's just his essence. Yeah, his soul. Like his pure, like his soulfulness. Yeah. Anyway. Here's actually just the kind of, the thing that I think about that kind of frustrates me a little bit is I think I've, you know, I haven't talked about it too, too much on the podcast, but I think to my friends, I, you know, made no apologies for not really liking my job anymore.

Toward the end, we kind of got these new bosses who are kind of from the corporate side of things. And we're just awful. We're just really, you know, really the most creatively bankrupt, you know, weird buzzword saying guys. You could even imagine. You sort of had an odd situation where you went from, you had many years of near total indifference to what you were doing, both on the network level and on the segment level, because you were working for people who liked street luges, and they just said, go do your comedies for the most part.

Your show then sort of became a comedy show a little bit in the past couple of years. Yeah. But then all of that, the upheaval that led to that, then it sort of bit the show in the butt. Yeah. And definitely I learned that I liked the show better when it was just a show about skateboarders that I got to do a little funny bit in. When it became this comedy show that was managed by these people with awful senses of humor and cultural radars, I definitely got a little bit miserable. And I definitely feel like I definitely spent the past year taking my creative dick out and trying to get something else. But it didn't happen.

And I kind of – I just have this kind of, well, how much harder can I try feeling? But I guess I can try harder. No, it's just, I mean, I think if you put it out there and if you were unhappy and, I mean, stagnant, it's a good thing. I mean, even though it's scary, the repercussions, but. Yeah, I mean, it's like, I feel like, you know, it's maybe like a bad relationship where they're like, well, I'm going back to school in Montana. And you're like, oh, good, we don't have to have an awful breakup.

Right. But yeah, I mean, there's definitely that part of me that's like, well, it was time to leave, but I would have rather, you know, I would like to leave knowing what I was going to do. There's something fundamentally terrifying about working in this entertainment industry. I mean, I know that my entire career path, such as it is,

is determined exclusively by my crippling fear of having to ask other people for a job. Like, it's not... I think sometimes when I am like... Like, if I'm getting interviewed and I'm telling my story when I am like like if I'm getting interviewed and I'm like telling my story of like independence and stuff like that and you know building a business and

podcasting and stuff people interpret it as though my goal all along was to build something to because I didn't want it to you know fight the man or whatever no I just didn't want to audition for things or have shows get cancelled and that horrifies me well yeah the man or whatever. No, I just didn't want to audition for things or have shows get canceled.

And that horrifies me. Well, yeah, that's, um, I mean, we started the podcast because I was focusing just on writing and felt really detached from the community. But now, and it's interesting, my husband's a record producer. Oh, that's right. So you, so you started out doing stage stuff at UCB, but maybe don't do it too much anymore yeah no i don't perform anymore i just write and my husband and i have these careers that we like you know we're hustling on it's like a fucking drudgery heart-wrenching and then the podcast is the thing that we're just like ah all right we have the equipment let's just do it and it's fun And we love these people.

And then that seems to be the thing that has momentum. Whereas what we're doing is a slow. Getting some attention and making some contacts. I will say that, especially for my husband, it's like just when you think you are about to lose your mind, something out of nowhere comes along and strings you along. Hello, this is Shakira. Oh my God, that's like his... We have like a freebie. She's a very beautiful woman. That's his freebie.

Oh wow, Shakira, that's a good one. That's so funny, you just pulled that out. Who's your freebie? I don't want to say it, but we're tied down for a year to each of ours. So mine currently is Eminem. Really? I'm sorry to laugh at you. I shouldn't have laughed.

See? That's really funny. That's amazing. Yeah, you didn't want to say that. It's reasonable. For good reason. Yeah, no, that's amazing yeah you didn't want to say that for a it's reasonable for a good reason yeah no that's

that's reasonable um can I we made the well he's a talented rapper he is that's

it was but I mean so's Twista let's just put it this way I'm not so it's Chris Parnell oh see see that's my freebie that's your

Chris Parnell yeah we love Chris but I feel like I's my freebie. That's your Chris Parnell. Yeah, we love Chris. But I feel like, I mean, my freebie a couple years ago was Dave Matthews. So this is what we're working with. Wow. It's like music. The musical taste of an 18-year-old girl.

So I guess if Dave Matthews, Eminem, and Shakira are any indication, your freebies all have to have peaked in popularity between 1995 and 2000, right? Apparently. That's not Eminem. Eminem's consistently popular, though, right? He's always... He isn't to me. He is to me.

Okay. That's what I'm saying. Her other freebie is Bill Clinton. Right. Swing dance revival. Swing dance revival. You say we're not friends, but you know me so well. Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. All of Big Bad Voodoo Daddy is your... So there's this other element, and I think I've boiled it down to what is bothering me the most about this.

And it makes me feel a little bad about myself, but here it is. It's purely a vanity thing. And there's this part of me that loved being the guy with the job, especially the novel job. Like, for you, a big part of my job is doing these kind of goofy junket interviews with celebrities. And, God, I just called some friends last night and said, hey, are you guys out? And they said, yeah, we're at this birthday party.

I don't think you know the people, but, you know, come by. It's a fun group. So I came by and was just kind of in that situation where I was just standing around. I had a drink. Everybody I knew was kind of occupied elsewhere. And then somebody asked me, what do you do? And I said, well, tomorrow I'm going to go do a goofy interview with Justin Timberlake for his weird sci-fi movie.

Oh, fuck yeah. I know. It was this, and it's been such a part of me. And it's a shitty cliche thing to say, but I definitely feel like it's a big part of my identity. Absolutely. It's what I talk about. How am I going to be interesting yeah now that i don't

have this interesting job like you're still the co-host of moderately popular comedy podcast that's yes yes that's true i don't know if you've heard but there's a comedy podcast boom on i have heard is there a boom yeah people are rushing to alaska to record comedy i'm just gonna start saying i'm doug benson it's uh no i know totally what you mean. And you asked me earlier, what do you do? And I said, I'm a comedy writer. And you said, what do you...

I mean, it's that LA thing. What do you write? Pilots. I'm trying to get staffed. Yeah. It sucks. But as soon as you're like, I write for this obscure Disney show. Whitney.

Something really respected like Whitney. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. No, and there's definitely this part Disney show. Something really respected like Whitney. Yeah, yes. Yeah, and there's definitely this part of me and I definitely don't judge people who are in that situation and basically all of my good friends are in that situation where they're like, well, I'm auditioning and I'm writing and I get something sometimes and there's

some stuff going on. But yeah, there is a part of me that is afraid to be that. Like, is afraid to because I will be. know i guess i could say well a couple of years ago i was on deep cable doing goofy interviews you know but like i don't know i guess i i right now i am i'm auditioning and i'm writing i got a pilot and some yeah some meetings and uh you know like i mean that's you just have to own it and And if it makes you feel any better, like even my friends who I think are very established and are. But, you know, it's until you're at a certain level in this field, everyone always feels like that. I mean, look at actors like you could be an actor and have like a guest spot on every sitcom that's out there but

you're still not employed yeah yeah you know it's still scary for sure so everyone's in the same boat you just feel like because you you've been lucky to have this yeah no definitely and it's definitely just kind of foreign and i i know i'll get over it but yeah i just definitely definitely that weird i'm i don't know i I'm just, I'm, I'm. It's a huge transition. I'm embarrassed. And I definitely had the opportunity to tell some people like the show's getting canceled soon, but I, I don't know.

I was just too, too vain to do it. Have you, have you thought about applying at Starbucks? I mean, they do, they do have health insurance. There's health insurance there. Flexible hours. So I could still go on auditions or I could just move back in with mom. I say you just move back in with mom. That'll be nice. Where's your mom? Orange County.

That's lovely down there. It is very nice down there. Beautiful country. Yeah. I mean, a nice cougar. Yeah. Yeah, your sets. That would be good. So yeah, but no, I think I'm going to try and enjoy it. I mean, I definitely have been working

60, 70 hours a week for a long time, so I think I'm going to try and enjoy it. I mean, I definitely have been working 60, 70 hours a week for a long time. So I think I'll... Yeah. Yeah. Soak it up. Sit like a bull. Like a bull. You know what I think, George?

Sure. We have tens of thousands of listeners to this program. We do. Let's call it hundreds of thousands. Why not? Why not? Let's say all. Yeah.

All people. All people. Yeah. I mean, look. Who are we talking about listening to this show right now? Judd Apatow Albert Brooks Brett Ratner Steven Spielberg the Howards

both Howards Clint, if you're out there I want to collaborate I bet they need a female writer to work for them. Right. But seriously, I mean, I know that when I go out in comedy's world, people want to talk to me about Jordan, Jesse, go. Yeah.

And I definitely am really, really thankful for this and for our know for our listeners and and the money part is you know what i think that's bullshit number one you don't appreciate what you have here sure i feel that but number two i am a little flippant about it i have had my middle finger extended to both of you this whole time and i make the jack off motion with the other finger yeah that's really confusing our intern colin by the other finger yeah that's really confusing our intern colin by the way yeah um he's like is this how podcasts get made yeah um why is this guy air jacking off the whole time um is that something about levels yeah or reverb isn't he gonna air come soon all right he's got a lot of air stamina. He's a real air stallion.

But I think that I am confident that in our audience are people in the industry who didn't know, who just thought, well, Jordan's too busy fucking jet setting across the country. I got to go to Hawaii to go to the Happy Feet premiere. I got to go to Tampa Bay to interview Delroy. To interview Delroy. No. Delroy. Oh, my God. I got to get on the fast train to San Jose. Shark versus Super Monkey

is coming out sure anyway people a lot of sci-fi original programming people presume that you Delroy Lindo vs. Mega Octopus people presume that

you were too busy and they're gonna need to see your spec scripts they're gonna need to see your monologue jokes I've got them I've got them they're gonna need you

to come in and host some segs sure yeah I know that you you work in and host some segs. Sure. Yeah. I know that you work in scripted television. In non-fiction television, they're known as segs. Oh, yeah. What Jordan hosts are segers.

Segers. And here's what I'm thinking. Yes, definitely the job hunt is very prominent in my mind. I was thinking, maybe for the first couple days after the show ends. You'll just do odd jobs for Jordan and Jesse.

Right, yes. I'm talking trim your hedge. You need a sink fixed. I can call a plumber for you. You will call. I will call a plumber. I will wait for him at your house if you want to go out. I will not let him at your house if you want to go out. I will not let him let your cat out.

Concern the cable guy's not going to show up again? Pay me to find out. Pay me to call them and ask what his deal is. I was thinking, bender. Maybe I would go on a bender. You're going to go on a bender? Yeah, like a two or three day bender. Go for it.

What are we talking about? I think just see how long... Alcohol, mescaline. See how long I could stay drunk. Because, I mean, before, like, I always had to be kind of careful. You know, I mean, definitely my work weeks were, you know, absolutely, most of the time, six days. Alcohol-free. Sometimes seven days.

You were not drunk on the job. Sometimes. Okay. Sometimes. Usually not. You know, I'll put up a little link to YouTube videos in our forum of segments where I was drunk. Oh, good. That'll be kind of a fun thing that I can talk about now. That is fun. Love it. There's a couple. And then they're called SEGS.

SEGS. SEGS. Let's drive through. And then, so yeah, I was maybe like trying on a weekday, just like starting at brunch and then just seeing how long I could go. I don't think that's a good idea. That sounds like a terrible idea to me. I'm all for it.

You think, Bender? Yeah. When, I mean, listen. I think you should try hallucinogens. Okay. Oh, I'm afraid to try hallucinogens. I know. That's why you should do it. Then you'll. Oh, I'm afraid to try hallucinogens. I know. That's why you should do it.

Then you'll have a really scary experience. Have you done hallucinogens? No. I've never been drunk. Really? I know. It's amazing to hear from a tourist, but... Wow.

Yeah, that is interesting. I have gored a few Spaniards. That's how you get your highs. But they were taunting me. They had this fucking cape. Yeah. I was like putty in their hands until they were like putty on my horns. Oh, God.

Bleeding putty. Is a bender something you do by yourself? I was like, I don't want. No, it starts out with people and then you alienate them at some point. Oh, Jordan. Because you're belligerent. And then you. I really.

I think. What about ecstasy? Try ecstasy. Yeah. Did you guys see that it cures cancer? No. That's awesome. There's a new study.

They had figured out that ecstasy killed cancer cells. Wow. But the problem was the dose was so strong that it would kill a human being. But now they've changed the atoms. And so now they like officially ecstasy kills cancer. Do they know for a fact that giant genes don't

kill cancer? Because it might just be the giant Jankos. Oh, giant blue genes. Yeah. Or that pacifiers cure cancer. They might be the pacifiers. Yeah, that's true. It could be. I mean... Or how about this?

Love. Right. Vicks VapoRub. Anonymous love. Yeah. Hugs. Yeah. But so, yeah, if you want to do ecstasy,

you can bear that in mind. I see. I think you don't... I am against the idea of you of you destroying yourself I'm not against a transformative experience of some kind I just don't want you to go into a hole that then

who's going to have to get who's going to have to get you out of the hole it's not going to be Sharon Morris I'll tell you that much I think it's Papa Thorn over here Papa Thorn's going to have to drag you out for a podcast some Sunday or I'm going to or I'm going to have to drag you out for a podcast some Sunday.

Or I'm going to... The bender would start on Monday. The bender would start on my first day of unemployment. I will time my self-destruction appropriately. Do not worry. I mean, just don't make me have to put Nick Adams on call. Oh, I know. So that if you can't show up,

I've got to bring in Reepik. If people start demanding more Adams unless Jordan, I mean, then I will officially have nothing. Jordan, I'm telling you. I'm offering you a few choices. Number one, hallucinogens. And you got to do it with... You had a lot of friends that are nice girls and probably some of them have some hallucinogens. Hallucinogens, ecstasy um something with moxie what about

what about just drinking some moxie sure going down to the deep south like tennessee or something drinking some moxie it's a type of it's a type of uh soda pop oh like a mellow yellow it's it's a it's apparently tastes terrible oh tastes it It tastes like that's part of the experience, is that it has a real kick-you-in-the-face type flavor. I dig. I think that's a couple of good choices. I think you could go on an astrology retreat. Oh, man.

I could use a little of that support and motivation. Is there a male version of what you did? No. I was thinking what? of what you did? No. I was thinking... Do some Robert Bly shit. What's that? Go fucking take your shirt off, bang on some drums, and sing some poetry. Go out to the desert.

Yell some roomie. Peyote. I'm open to it. Yeah, if someone could point me in the direction of some organization that do shirtless male drumming. You go on a nationwide car drive. What's that called? Road trip. It's called car drive.

I'm going to go for a nationwide car drive. Excuse me, I have to catch my fly plane. I'm late for my choo-choo. Go on a road trip and go to minor league baseball games. How about that? You know what? I'm going to take it. You can enter those inflatable sumo suit contests.

Oh, I'll take it one step further. Go to little league games across the country. While on hallucinogens. Or ecstasy. Or ecstasy. There you go. Really? Yeah. How about this?

Become a pool hustler. Or a bowling hustler. I think all of these take significantly more energy and effort. Or start subscribing to Hustler. There you go. That's what I'll do. Change your name to Jordan Mus...

What? Jordan Muscle? Jordan Musler. Musler. Jordan Musler, fan of Hustlers. Can we, before you go, you have some time. We should say you've got a little bit of time before you... I've got a couple of weeks.

It was nice. It wasn't like a pack your shit and get out of here which which happens a lot in tv so i think that i i definitely you know they were definitely nice enough to keep us on for a couple more weeks can we throw this out to the audience for suggestions for transformative experiences that you might that aren't too expensive right this you know i think i think a lot of people yeah a lot of people like i think people with a with a a more significant cushion than I have will do, like, I know someone every time their show ends, like, goes to South America and does a little backpacking trip. Yeah, goes to Hawaii.

I fucking won't do that. Yeah, so I definitely am. So no eat, pray, love type shit. No, no, I definitely don't want to do an eat, pray, love. But, yeah, maybe something I can do local or within driving distance. You know, Hodgman is friends with Elizabeth Gilbert. So I could hook you up with her if you want to do some Eat, Pray, Love type shit. Of course I love her.

I love her. Her speech at TED, so great. I have never met the woman, but Hodgman's a big fan. Says she's a wonderful, wonderful person the woman but hodgman's a big fan says she's a wonderful wonderful person i'm glad to hear that um jordan i let's throw this out to the audience action item for this week how what transformative experience can jordan commemorate the loss of his job with i can't wait 206-9844 fund the telephone number jjgoe at maximumfund.org the email address colin walzak is here he's already noted it on his legal pad, so he knows next week.

This is going to be tremendous, Jordan. Jordan, we are going to change your life. This is going to be... No, this is a new chapter is opening. This is like I am Oprah and you're Gail. Yay! Is that how it works? No.

Can I be Dr. Oz? I want to be Dr. Oz in the Oprahverse. Oh, man. There's kind of an Oprahverse, isn't there? There is now. She brought Rosie into it. Yeah. There's an Oprahverse.

Who else could I be? I don't want to be Dr. Phil. No, you can still be Oprah. I can still be Oprah? Yes. Oh, thank you! Who do you want to be Dr. Phil. No, you can still be Oprah. I can still be Oprah? Yes. Oh, thank you. Who do you want to be, Elizabeth? Jordan's not Gale.

Who's he, Stedman? That's gross. Yeah. Oh, sick. Sick. Get that snake out of here. Get that snake off my balls. This is getting uncomfortable.

Yeah, it is. Well, at least I'm Oprah. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse, go. It's Jordan, Jesse, go. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Elizabeth Lame, Street Fighter 3 wannabe. Oh, you're not the real deal.

No. Oh, well. I'm a poser. No. You'll never fight the future. I have, I first of all, in this segment, I want to open this segment by mentioning this past Friday night, we had our first ever The Comedy Club with Jesse and Jordan show at the Ice House in Pasadena. Oh, yeah.

I saw the lineup. That's great. We had lots of friends of Jordan and Jesse go there. Al Madrigal, Mark Maron, Chris Fairbanks, D.C. Pearson. This was a tremendous show. And I want to thank... Number one, it was sold out. Number two, it was a tremendous show.

Colin Walzak, you were there. You're my intern. You can't say that it was bad. What. Number two, it was a tremendous show. Colin Walzak, you were there. You're my intern. You can't say that it was bad. What did you think of it? It was great. Yeah, he says it's great. Yeah. Good. This was a great show, and I think we're going to do this once a month here in Pasadena if people continue to be willing to come out

to it. Awesome. It's a little bit of a haul, but there's a Cheesecake Factory close. But here's the thing. It's not that much of a haul. A lot of people live out here. Awesome. It's a little bit of a haul, but there's a Cheesecake Factory close. But here's the thing, it's not that much of a haul. A lot of people live out here. Sure. I guess for some, it's less of a haul than going to, you know, Santa Monica or something. But for fucking cool people,

sure. Damn straight. Yeah. So thank you very much and keep your ears tuned, those of you in Southern California, for future editions of, uh, of said, um, Hey, we got a new advertiser on the show. Um, it's called make pixel art.com make pixel art.com. Remember I want to see that.com.

This is from the makers of, I want to see that.com. The original Jordan, Jesse go sponsor. Yeah. Uh, they have this really cool website.com. The original Jordan Jesse Go sponsor. Yeah. They have this really cool website. It's called MakePixelArt. You can go onto the internet to this website, MakePixelArt.com, and it's a great way to make lo-fi pictures in a world of... This whole low-quality drawing thing is exploding right now. It's like the hottest

ticket in town. You draw something that looks like a Koopa Trooper or whatever. Is that something, Jordan? Yeah. Koopa Trooper? You're fine. Then that's what girls want to see. Absolutely. Or fellas, if that's what you're interested in. Anyway, they're working on a telephone application for this thing.

But in the meantime, you can do it on the World Wide Web for free at makepixelart.com. This thing's going to be, this thing's tremendous. It's a great website you go to and click and draw pixeled pictures, which you cannot do any other way. I cannot wait. We also have a personal message on this week's program, Jordan. I think you're going to like this one. I'll just begin by saying that this is a message for the single men of Seattle

between 30 and 40 years old. I think you can guess what category this personal message falls into, Jordan. We're making love connections on Jordan, Jesse, go. Xena is looking for a date in Seattle. Oh, God. I love this.

I love that we're making people we're plugging penises into vaginas. Sure. It's beautiful. Or butts or whatever. We are connecting hearts that they might beat as one. Zena, 36 years old, lives in Seattle.

She's prepping for nursing school at the moment. Sure, right. Nurturing. And she's got a for nursing school at the moment. Sure, right. Nurturing. Hey, and she's got a career ahead of her. A well-paid career. That's a growing field. She'll know how to give a sponge bath. Am I right?

Nurseries are growing. Who are? Yeah, sexy nurse. Sure. She loves stand-up comedy, ballet, coffee, pizza, and hiking. Oh, my gosh. She sounds like pretty much the perfect Seattleite.

Yeah. Her favorite non- If you only added fleece vest, that would be the only thing that she's missing. I'm so glad she left it out. Yeah. Or just missed. Right. A general haze.

Yeah. Her favorite shows other than Jordan Jesse Go which obviously is her number one favorite show are The Long Shot

and Radiolab I presume that she loves just kidding I presume that she loves Radiolab because I was on last week's Radiolab

and I presume she loves The Long Shot because I was on that one time can I say that I presume that she's going

to love Totally Lame yep you can once she hears the episode that I was on that one time. Can I say that I presume that she's going to love Totally Lame? Yep. You can. Once she hears the episode that I was on a couple years ago. It was a year. A year? Just a year? Mm-hmm.

Oh, well, it was a blast. Oh, thanks. It was a blast. You clarified in your initial email that you weren't going to murder me, and that's when I knew that it would be a success. She would... The comedian who she wishes she were related to so she'd get to hang out with him

at Thanksgiving and Passover and everything is Eddie Pepitone, which is not a bad selection. Sure. Absolutely. I think that's... Good call. She's a woman of taste.

Absolutely the right choice. Have you guys heard of this pizza she's so nuts about? It's delicious. Apparently, Jordan. Try it. Jordan, apparently you met her when you were in Seattle in April and bought her a Jell-O shot. What? Okay.

So this is a winning lady. Here's how it works. To be fair, I was just throwing Jell-O shots at people. Yeah. I feel like I learned so much more about Jordan than I did about her in that sentence. You learned that I'm a class act? She bought her jello shots. I'm not a treat-a-lady.

Okay, so this is what we want you to do. We're going to put up a photograph of her her and jordan drinking jello shots in the forum um if you're interested uh and i can i can verify for anyone who's doesn't want to bother going to the forum that she's not a homely woman um so she sounds she's a real winner so if you're a single guy between 30 and 40 you know just, just make it happen. You can email her. You can email her at a special email address she's created for this purpose. It is zena.choux. So zena.choux.

Apparently that means cabbage in French. En français. We will also put this in the forum. But Xena.choux at gmail.com. And set up a coffee date. Send a few flirty emails. Just be fun. See what happens. Some a few flirty emails. Just be fun. See what happens.

Some first date jello shots. Every. Just go on a date. Go to the Space Needle. Go to a Mariners game. Experience the music project. What else is there? Bumbershoot.

Nirvana. Go give some food to homeless people in their Priuses Park downtown. Yeah. Get yourself a flannel. Right. Okay. Xena. Xena.

Here's another thing I want to say about this. Yeah. If you're a single man between 30 and 40 you're listening to this right now and you're not already preparing to send an email to Xena go suck on a muffler. Yeah. Stick it in your ear unless you're a gay man.

If you're interested in gentlemen for intercourse exclusively you needn't suck on any mufflers. You've got your own stuff to suck on. And God bless you for it. Sure. Yes. But if you're

a heterosexual gentleman between the ages of 30 and 40, you live in Seattle, give me a fucking break. Let's make this happen. Yeah. Z-E-N-A dot C-H-O-U-X at g gmail.com we'll have a picture of her and jordan and that email address up on the forum uh but just make it happen suck on if you want to get on the jumbotron it it's MaximumFun.org slash Jumbotron.

It's only $200 for a commercial message, $100 for a personal message. And if you want to advertise on the show, as Fuelie.com did so enthusiastically, and MakePixelArt.com is so enthusiastically now, just email our development director, Teresa, at MaximumFun.org. We'll be back in just a second. Please don't make me have to move home with my mom. We'll be back in just a second. Please don't make me have to move home with my mom. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse, go. Love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you Love you, love you Love you, love you Love you, love you

Jordan, Jesse, go. I'm Jesse Thorne. Jordan Morris. Boy detective. Elizabeth Lane. I'm sorry. I feel like I keep... Yours seemed like it wasn't that melodic, Jordan. Oh, okay. I'm tone deaf, so to me it was.

Oh, gotcha. I thought Jesse was disappointed in mine, so you can imagine my relief to know that. No, yours was lovely. Oh, thank you. Yeah, like a caged bird. That's how my husband disguises himself.

Hey, I don't want to know about your guys' weird sex life, okay? With your giant human-sized cage and your seed bell. my god that is amazing and your weird bird play bird play what are you into i'm into bird play now into bird play yeah i went through heavy and ssnm for a while but now i'm into bird play yeah a lot of perching S&M for a while, but now I'm into bird play. Yeah. A lot of perching.

Perching. Yeah. You know, seed bells, mimicry. Seed bells. Mostly seed bells, mimicry, head bobbing. Migrate to my wife's pussy.

Colorful plumage. Migrate. We shit on each other's heads for good luck. Right. And our cars. We shit on each other's cars. Shredded newspaper. Yeah. Hey, listen, we're going to leave.

We've been running our mouths so much. We're going to leave calls to next week. Man, it has really been a blast to have you on the program, Elizabeth. Thank you so much for joining us. This has been so much fun. Thanks, you guys. Elizabeth Lame, of course, is the host of the Totally Lame podcast. That's L-A-I-M-E.

I've heard that a great starter episode for that show, like one that you could suggest to people, great starter episode for that show like one that you could suggest to people that you could suggest to people is the one with uh celebrity podcaster and public radio host jesse thorne oh he's great you had marin oh he's so funny your episode was fantastic i think we're i think we're all i i think we're all even i a friend of mark marin and one of his biggest fans and the producer of one of his shows, I think we're all getting a little tired of hearing about how great Marc Maron is, right? We know. He's great.

Yes, I agree. I also think he's great. Yeah. Anyway, Eddie Pepitone's also great. Let's talk about how great he is. Sure. He is great. And his episode is really fun.

Okay, good. But definitely check out Jesse Thorne's episode. That's a great episode and I'm really looking forward to Jordan's episode. Yeah. It won't be that good. Will you have any time

after around December? Let me check my calendar. Let me check. I'm pretty booked up. I got this bender. Can I come on mid-bender? Oh my God. Can I come on

a half day into the bender? Jordan, to be fair, you did apply to be Father Christmasmas that's true yes i will be yes i'm my i do have a little something lined up some seasonal work as a mall santa yeah santa clausen sure santa clausen you were gonna be what's evil what's evil santa's name i didn't know the one an evil... The one who goes around... Oh, Krampus. Yeah, Krampus. Oh, the Scandinavian? Yeah.

It's like a... I feel like it's not Bizarro Santa. It's like a troll. It's evil Santa. Yeah. He goes around stealing children's happiness. Krampus. The Scandinavians.

They know how to take the joy out of joy. Yep, yep. Well, Elizabeth, it's been a pleasure. People can find your show over there at the Earwolf Network at earwolf.ru. Right? That's a Russian organization, is it not? Yes, it is. That's correct.

Are you guys directing people to Earwolf or Funny or Die these days? Because I know that Earwolf has kind of been integrated into Funny or Die. Yeah. Still go to Earwolf or Funny or Die, I think. Should we watch the movie Airwolf? You should watch Airwolf before going to either of those. What about Terminator 2? Should I watch Terminator 2?

No. No? It doesn't hold up. Okay. Good. Then I won't. But I should watch RoboCop? You should watch RoboCop.

If I see Terminator... RoboCop's on instant. You can watch it with the baby. Do I have to watch... Babies love robot law enforcement. Yeah. You do need to watch Kindergarten Cop. I have seen...

I've seen Kindergarten Cop. Okay, good. And I've seen Twins. And I've seen Junior. For some reason... All the comic Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. Yeah, I don't know why that would be. I've actually Twins. And I've seen Junior. For some reason... All the comic Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. I don't know why that would be. I've actually seen Last Action Hero also.

I was wondering if I were to see Terminator 2, should I have seen Terminator number one, The Terminator? No, Terminator 2 is the one... You shouldn't see any of them except two. Right, okay. I don't know. One's kind of fun if you're super into the aesthetic of You shouldn't see any of them except two. Right, okay. I don't know. One's kind of fun if you're super into the aesthetic of 80s action movies.

Which I'm not. So yeah. Stick with two. Now, should I see it if I really liked MacGruber? No, just watch MacGruber. Okay. Just realize that MacGruber is making fun of that kind of thing. Can we, just to circle back to this, should everyone in the world probably watch MacGruber?

Fuck yes. Yeah, MacGruber's great. MacGruber's hilarious. Yes. MacGruber is really funny. I mean, it's not perfect. No. What movie is?

But it is real funny. It is. A lot of funny in that film. It's a ride. I own it on Blu-ray. I will be watching it at my house uh once a week starting on december 9th if anyone would like to come by i will be dressed as santa claus jordan just looking at this way you can use this time to memorize some

new button sequences yeah no i can get really really good at street fighter i am looking forward to that you could be like our our longtime listener ronnie who goes to a secret underground street fighter 2 tournaments i played i played one recently really yeah was it the thing because in his when he described it to me it's like people get with trucks he lives in like dallas or something houston and he people they rent out a warehouse in a shady neighborhood. And like at midnight, all these trucks drive up with Terminator 2s in them. Wait, Street Fighter 2s in them.

Like just from- Revolution X, the Aerosmith themed shooting range. Like they either own it or they break into a pizza parlor or something. Yeah. And then they plug them all in and then they play Terminator, Street Fighter 2 against each other.

Dhalsim is one of the characters. And they fight each other. Oh, I love it. They fight each other. He practices yoga fighting. And he's green, I think. Well, depending on... You can turn him a different color depending on what version you're playing.

And then they play it all against each other like it was some kind of street luge organization or something. Like a Fast and Furious style. Yeah. I love that someone takes the time to think of that and then organize it and make it come to fruition. You know who it is. Jordan described it as Fast and the Furious style

because it's actually Vin Diesel that does the organizing. Yeah, right? Between Dungeons and Dragons games. Oh, no. I play this in the back of Meltdown Comics here in L.A. A similar organization set up a bunch of Street Fighters and had a tournament that had kind of a big cash prize. I played in it. I did pretty good, respectable for a guy who does things other than play Street Fighter.

Yeah, I was the only white guy. Yeah. And also, everyone, despite there being a door, an easily accessible door open to the outdoors, chose to just fart in the middle of the room. Maybe that's like an intimidation thing. I thought you were going to say, despite there being

a door, everyone tried to exit through the window. Everyone kept walking into the walls in an attempt to get outside. They propelled down from the roof. Also, I was the only pad player there, so that caused a lot

of sideways glances. I don't know what that means. I don't play with an arcade stick. I play with a D-pad. But aren't you playing on an arcade thing? This was on consoles. They didn't truck in the machines. That sounds like a bullshit

version of this thing. Who was putting this on? Probably Paul Walker, right? Yeah, Vin Diesel would not put his name on this. How do they find the time with their lucrative careers? Yeah, I mean, they've made upwards of 10 of those movies. I think they just wait for the next Fast and Furious movie. I don't think they're making other movies.

But aren't those in continuous production? Absolutely, never ending. I mean, Bow Wow's got to do something, right? Yes. Just so you know, Bow Wow's got to do something, right? Yes. Just so you know, those Fast and the Furious movies that Bow Wow hasn't been in, he has worked on. Correct. Crap services. He's the grip.

Yeah, Paul Walker, I mean, on the one hand, he found the, and he has really capitalized on it. On the other hand, I feel like he could have taken some acting classes early on and really had a go of it. Done a non-Fast and Furious movie? Yeah, anything. But Walker doesn't think so. Is that the guy who Vin Diesel fought against in Fast and Furious, Too Fast, Too fast too furious number five that i saw um well i mean vin diesel fought the rock in fact oh yeah paul walker is like his you know his contentious foil the rock from wrestling just part from wrestling in the pacifier yeah no that vin diesel was the

pacifier vin diesel was the pacifier then who's the rock he's doom doom video game to movie wait there was a doom movie yeah and i guess it has i've never seen it i kind of want to see it i guess there's a big like the last 30 minutes of it is first person like it's like doom but not the first 60 minutes no it's only toward the end of the movie well the first 60 minutes probably the first 36 minutes of it right this is This is a 70-minute movie. Well, look, we've all had a lot of fun here laughing and joking about our favorite stars from our favorite film series. But it's time to wrap this thing up. Our action item this week, what should Jordan do to transform his life when his television show comes to an end? He needs some sort of ritualistic

killing. Maybe something that comes in a hookah but isn't just flavored tobacco. Maybe a crazy sexual experience. Maybe some bird play.

Maybe some bird play. If anyone has a has a human-sized cage yeah uh our theme music love you by the free design courtesy of the free design and light in the attic records by the way a nice lady emailed us and uh uh and said that uh our theme music uh delights her baby. Her baby smiles and laughs. The program brings the baby to tears. Yeah, the program brings the baby to tears.

And now it's the moment you've all been waiting for. Yes, that moment that we forgot last week. It's time to pick a Tweet of the Week. Oh, and a big ritual in the Tweet of the Week for you, Elizabeth, is Jesse looking at Twitter and then me stalling with the guest while he brings it up. Okay. So we got something from E.L. Ross. Put a couple hundred miles on the Harley listening to JJ Go today, as I am sure the majority of Bike Fest riders were. That's pretty good, right?

Okay. That's the tweet of the week. It's that easy. It is that easy. Uh, Elizabeth lane. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you.

Um, we'll talk to you next time on Jordan, Jesse go.