Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Ep. 351: Sensual Sommelier with Jimmy Dore

Episode Date: November 17, 2014

Comedian, radio host and writer Jimmy Dore joins Jordan and Jesse for a discussion of the appeal of Entourage, commercials for sex toys, and an idea for a new business. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan, Jesse Goh. I am Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Steel Santa. How are you feeling about Steel Santa so far? I like it a lot.
Starting point is 00:00:19 It makes me feel powerful and giving. Yeah, it's fair. So two great qualities, aren't they? And there are two qualities that I associate with you, Jordan. Thank you. If I'm looking for a handout coming straight to you. Yeah. A handout with a firm handshake.
Starting point is 00:00:37 If I'm looking for raw power. Right. I'm also coming, any kind of power, political power, sexual power. Sure. Those are two main kinds of power. Yeah then like bee pollen yeah that'll give you a nice boost i like steel steel santa is fun i like that it's um i like that it's a an adult theme sure um and by an adult theme, I mean like a sexual... Sure, yeah, again, going back to a sexual theme. Yeah. Like a real
Starting point is 00:01:10 SpectraVision kind of quality to it. Real hotel room jerk-off kind of quality. I mean, to some extent, I'd say, what about maybe a video music box? Oh, yeah. Like a rap video with naked chicks in it? What's that what about maybe a video music box? Oh, yeah. Like a rap video with naked chicks in it?
Starting point is 00:01:27 What's that? That's a video music box. This is like a thing, this is like a famous, it was like a semi-pay-per-view channel that I think started in New York. Maybe it was also available other places, but it was the place where you could watch rap videos when MTV didn't show rap videos. Also available other places. But it was the place where you could watch rap videos when MTV didn't show rap videos. And then it became the place where you could watch rap videos with swears and nudity. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:50 When you couldn't watch them anywhere else. Who would make videos for this? Mainstream rap artists? Yes. Okay. Yes. Wow. I mean, not like pop rap artists necessarily. But definitely mainstream rap artists would have videos with significant amounts of nudity in them.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Well, terrific. I know, right? You know something you would watch in hotels? I mean, depends on the hotel. Yeah. I don't think anybody in the Ritz-Carlton was watching it. Courtyard by Mary. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:19 A nice Radisson. Don't watch any goddamn thing at the Radisson. Oh, yeah. No standards over there at the Radisson. One room, any goddamn thing at the Radisson. Oh, yeah. No standards over there at the Radisson. One room, people are watching My Little Pony. Yeah. Next room, people are watching Video Music Box. Sure.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Next room, Faces of Death on VHS. It's just a broad spectrum at the fucking Radisson. Speaking of watching things, I don't know if you followed through on our deal, but I watched Entrapment. I forgot what our deal was. Well, our deal was that I would watch Entrapment and you would watch that other movie. What was it called, Brian? Outside Providence. See, now here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:02:57 You presented this deal to me last week. Fait accompli. I did not agree to this. That's number one. Number two, you- You implicitly agreed by staying in the room. Initially, your offer was that you would watch Outside Providence, which you had brought up. Should we bring in our guests and explain this whole thing?
Starting point is 00:03:17 Let's bring our guests into the program. Okay. So our guest is a stand-up comedian. We definitely need a third person for this. Yes. A stand-up comedian, a definitely need a third person for this. A stand-up comedian, a radio host, podcasting celebrity. He's now also
Starting point is 00:03:30 an author. I'm going to say a best-selling author. Do I know that's true? No, I don't, but he's nodding yes. Yes, it is true. His new book is called Your Country Is Just Not That Into You. His name, Jimmy Dore. Jimmy, welcome back to the program.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Oh, thank you for having me on. I appreciate it, fellas. Yes, this has been a fascinating conversation. I needed to get in on it. I could see you over there. You were like, steam was coming out of your ears. Oh, my God, get in on this. Jimmy, so what's been going on is that Jesse and I both have movie trailers from our childhood
Starting point is 00:04:04 that we really remember to movies that we haven't seen. But for some reason, the trailers have stuck in our mind. Yeah. That is unbelievable. In Jordan's case, it's the movie Outside Providence, where a Northeastern version, New England, Alec Baldwin, says something about both people in a sex getting their rocks off. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:27 He says, sex is like Chinese food. It's not over until you both get your cookies. For some reason, that joke has stuck with me for years and years. Is that a Farrelly Brother movie? Outside Prometheus? Is there a movie called that? I don't think. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I don't know. That might be the Farrelly Brothers relatively serious movie. I think it was. Yes. I believe that. Okay. Yeah be the Farrelly brothers relatively serious movie. I think it was. Yes. I believe that. Okay. Yeah. We got a thumbs up on that.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Sounds like their kind of humor, that joke. Sure. They did not direct the film, but they did write the film. Write the film. Oh, there you go. Okay. And Jesse has the movie Entrapment, specifically a part where Catherine Zeta-Jones in a skin tight outfit goes underneath a laser.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I remember that trailer. It's a very memorable trailer. No, that is unbelievable that I remember that trailer. Yes. Who could forget that? Yeah, unforgettable. That was certainly the height of my attraction to her. I propose that these are trailers that have stuck with us.
Starting point is 00:05:20 We should both watch the movies and report back. Jesse did not want to watch Entrapment. Oh, really? Well, here's the thing. For fear of home boners. Here's the thing. that have stuck with us. We should both watch the movies and report back. Jesse did not want to watch Entrapment. Oh, really? Well, here's the thing. For fear of home boners. Here's the thing. I don't have a lot of opportunities to enjoy a film.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Being as that... Why is that? I have two small children. Oh. And my lifestyle, and I have a demanding work life, my lifestyle simply doesn't accommodate a lot of extracurricular film viewing.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I hear you. Can you watch it in 10-minute chunks? You could have. Maybe. Well, I could have watched one particular 10-minute chunk, assuming my wife wasn't home. Sure. Yes. You know what's funny, Jesse, is I feel the same way as you. I don't have time to watch movies, yet last night I found myself watching Lost in America for the fourth time. Yeah, well, I mean, Lost in America, that's time well spent. Yeah, if you're going
Starting point is 00:06:09 to re-watch a movie. I mean, it was on. So it was on cable. I still have cable. I'm one of those guys. Sure. And it was on and my wife and I
Starting point is 00:06:16 just started watching before I know. We're 45 minutes in. I'm like, I guess we're going to watch this, huh? It was great. There's also that great scene
Starting point is 00:06:22 where Julie Haggerty goes underneath that laser beam. She is scene where Julie Haggerty goes underneath that laser beam. She is cut. Julie Haggerty. She is cut in that movie. Yeah. I think that, Jordan, I think you sunk the whole deal.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Okay. When you said- Well, then I proposed- I had to watch the earnest B-minus drama. Uh-huh. But you didn't want to watch. I suggested we watch our own movies. Well, you didn't give me a choice.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You didn't say, would you prefer to watch Entrapment? Given the choice between watching- I don't think that's how it went down. I do not think this is how it went down at all. Given a choice between watching an earnest B-minus mainstream middle-of-the-road drama and an earnest B-minus mainstream middle-of-the-road thriller starring Catherine Zeta-Jones. I'm going to go with Catherine Zeta-Jones. I thought I was doing you a favor.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I was prepared to watch Outside Providence. It makes the most sense. I don't think you were doing me a favor. Sure. I think you thought it would be fun to watch Entrapment, but probably not that fun to watch Outside Providence. I was absolutely prepared to watch Outside Providence. I thought you thought there would – what I got was that you didn't want to watch Entrapment because you're worried that the wife would think you were ogling.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Okay. Here, I propose a compromise. Okay. You already watched Entrapment. Yeah. Next week – I bought the DVD from Half.com, so I can bring it. Okay. You already watched Entrapment. Yeah. Next week. I bought the DVD from Half.com, so I can bring it in and you can also watch it. Here's my proposal.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah. Last week you watched Outside Providence. Wait, last week you watched Entrapment. Yeah. This week you watch Outside Providence. Uh-huh. I will watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Just like with the episode that comes out that week? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Okay. What is Brooklyn Nine-Nine? It's a sitcom on Fox. It's really good. It's a very fun sitcom. Anyway, we've talked longer about the deal than we did about the conversation we had about the deal is longer than the conversation we should have had about the movie, which is very, very boring. Oh. Did you see Outside Providence?
Starting point is 00:08:33 I did not. No. I saw Entrapment. Oh. And it's a real snooze. It's a tough story to follow. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:39 What about the part – now, is there a part? Yeah. Quick question. Point of order sure is there a part where katherine zeta jones climbs through some lasers here's the deal so the part you see in the trailer where she's climbing underneath the lasers is part of her training montage yes um so she is actually in the trailer the part you see where she is slinking sexually, she's actually going under a red string that they set up in Sean Connery's art mansion to train for the heist. Yes. The cat suit she is wearing during the actual heist is not skin tight.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It's actually kind of loose and baggy. Yeah, I was a little bit of a disappointment. Yeah, yeah. It's not as – I know. I know. Yeah, that trailer got me bit of a disappointment. Yeah, yeah, it's not as... I know. Yeah, that trailer got me to the movie. That was for sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:29 So you went to the theater to see this movie? Oh, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I don't know. When did that come out? 40 years ago? I don't remember when it came out. I think 1964. Y2K is a plot point.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Ah. Hold on, hold on. I'm thinking of Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. Awesome. That has that part where, you know, Sidney Poitier is going through those laser beams. So dignified. Yeah, lots of dignity. So dignified.
Starting point is 00:09:56 1999 is when Entrapment came out. I would have guessed 1996. Okay. That would have been my guess. 15 years old is what I would have guessed I would have been. But 1999, that's 18. That still makes sense. That's have been my guess. 15 years old is what I would have guessed it would have been. But 1999, that's 18. That still makes sense. That's still right in there.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I'm still living in my mom's house. You know what I mean? Sure. So wait. So there's no – so does later in the movie, does she still go through lasers? She maybe – she does. Yeah, but she's not wearing that outfit. Yeah, she's wearing this kind of, you know – it looks like like it is a catsuit but made for a more Rubenesque woman.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It looks like she maybe also has some cottage cheese in there for later. Yeah, maybe J-Lo could fill that out a little bit better. Yeah, it could have been J-Lo. Like, listen, we cast J-Lo. There was a scheduling conflict. We already have the catsuit. There will be some room in the ass. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I saw Out of Sight. I think that was the movie J-Lo did, didn't she? Oh, sure. Yeah. Oh, she looked fantastic in that. J-Lo, can I just tell you, the only movie I've ever seen with J-Lo in it is Out of Sight. And as far as I'm concerned, J-Lo is a great actress. I agree.
Starting point is 00:10:58 She is totally great in Out of Sight. I have the same opinion, and I've seen Out of Sight and Anaconda. I've seen both those movies. Yeah. And I don't – danger is a sighting. Oh, man. Jon Voight's accent in that is one of the craziest things in the world. I don't know what he was doing.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I don't know what kind of accent that was supposed to be. Yeah. That was a running joke when I was in high school is my friends and I would come up behind one another and whisper in each other's ear, There is something in the water. You French or you Bulgarian? He's like, are you a German in Brazil? What do you do? Danger in society.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Catherine's later. I am a foreign man. Yes. That's right. From another country. Getting back to entrapment. Sure. What kind of sexy stuff does Sean Connery do? Not much. He glowers. He-huh. Getting back to Entrapment. Sure. What kind of sexy stuff does Sean Connery do?
Starting point is 00:11:45 Not much. He glowers. He double crosses. Oh, both of those sound sexy coming from Sean Connery. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So the thing in the movie is that they are art thieves who team up for a series of heists.
Starting point is 00:12:02 What are their specialties? Art thieving. Okay. And buying the equipment necessary to steal art. Why do they need to team up? Hard to say. Okay. For a reason.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Right. Yeah. They need to steal a mask, an ancient mask from the MacGuffin dynasty. And, oh, there's also a great one of those scenes that I don't know if – it's in a lot of movies, but I don't know if it's based in real life where there's a big party at a museum to see the new art thing. I'd love to go to one of those if those exist. I would love to go to one of those parties too. Jimmy, have you ever been to a – I've never been to a museum party, no.
Starting point is 00:12:38 My biggest concern I think would be if I went to one of those parties, if the Joker's goons showed up yeah yeah that's true that was one of my favorite episodes when I was a kid of Batman to Joker's goons yeah sure so yeah so they team up double cross each other several different times and the whole thing is that everybody is warning them against
Starting point is 00:13:01 getting involved with each other Ving Rhames also in this movie, if that dates it. Sure. Why wouldn't he be? It's 1999. They got the whole cast of those Radio Shack commercials. So people are always warning them like, hey, don't get involved. Like, this is just business, right?
Starting point is 00:13:22 You know, don't fall in love. They talk about nothing but heisting. Like, they never have a moment. There's no chemistry between them at all. But for some reason, everybody else is concerned that they're going to, you know, fall in love. Well, Catherine Zeta-Jones is 32. Sure. And Sean Connery is 72. He has an eternal tree person.
Starting point is 00:13:43 She's a little too old for him in Hollywood years. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. An old crone. Sean Connery may literally be older than Michael Douglas. Yeah. Anyway, there's nothing particularly wrong with the movie. It's just kind of a snooze.
Starting point is 00:13:56 You know, catsuit doesn't fit great. She still looks lovely in it. She's a beautiful woman. She'd look lovely in a, you know, burlap sack. Is she good at acting? She was fine in this movie. Nobody, yeah, didn't stick out as being. Can I tell you what I kind of liked?
Starting point is 00:14:14 That Coen Brothers movie with her and Clooney? Yeah. Where they're spitting zingers at each other in the screwball comedy fashion. What was that movie? Intolerable Cruelty, I want to say. Is that right? Is that the right name? That is it.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Enjoyed it. Enjoyed it. Didn't see it. Very stylized. I've seen every movie you guys have been talking about up until this point. Yeah. It's a lesser comedy.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It's amazing. Anaconda. I saw Anaconda, for Christ's sake. And I don't see movies, and I saw that goddamn movie. How did you come to see Anaconda? Were you just in Sheboygan doing a weekend, and that was what was in the theater? I was a young boy in Hollywood, and I didn't have much to do. And that's when I used to go see movies during the day all the time.
Starting point is 00:14:55 And a bunch of us went. I think Paul F. Tompkins, and we used to go watch horrible movies for fun. And that was one of the funnest ones we've seen. Yeah, that was, oh my gosh. That was like a spot on. That was perfect. If you were trying to do a parody of a bad movie like that, like that was it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:12 It was laugh out loud funny. Jon Voight gets vomited up by the snake and winks at the camera. What? Yes. That happens in the movie. Who's the rapper that's in that movie? Ice Cube. Ice Cube is in that.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Ice Cube is pretty good in it. No, he's great. You know what? Fucking Ice Cube is in that. Ice Cube's pretty good in it. No, he's great. You know what? Fucking Ice Cube is great at being an actor. Sure. Anytime anyone complains, you know, there was a little thing going on in Hollywood where real actors would complain about rappers getting roles. It's like, oh, but fucking Ice Cube is pretty great.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Yeah, he's like the funniest part about those Jump Street movies. Yeah. Well, it's funny. I always like when a guy like that comes along and proves to you that acting class is bullshit. That you either have talent or you don't. I think Ice Cube was using a lot of sense memory. I think so. I think he was.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Sense memory. You know, I actually have the same approach to J-Lo that I have with Ice Cube and Marky Mark. Because I saw Three Kings a long time ago. Three Kings is a wonderful, amazing movie. And I've never seen any of the movies that Marky Mark is famous for being bad in. I've only seen the ones that he's super good in. So if I watch that M. Night Shyamalan movie where he plays a scientist, then it might ruin Marky Mark for me forever.
Starting point is 00:16:26 But as it stands, I think Marky Mark's fucking tremendous and a great actor. Same thing with Ice Cube like Saw him in Three Kings thought he was spectacular. Marky Mark has a warmth
Starting point is 00:16:34 about him especially in that movie he's like hey buddy how you doing man don't try to kill everybody be nice. That's kind of
Starting point is 00:16:41 that's how I he's like your big brother who's gonna it's okay I'll call the lawyer we'll fix it. Yeah and also he's not afraid to beat somebody up for you. Yeah. Like, that's kind of, that's how I, he's like your big brother who's going to, it's okay, I'll call the lawyer and we'll fix it. Yeah, and also he'll, he's not afraid to beat somebody up for you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yeah, I had a lot of older brothers, which kept me safe, but also comes across as easy to trick. That's true. Yeah. He's guileless. You just trick him. He plays guileless very well. He must be guileful because he's such a successful producer, right?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Like he's made an entourage in some other popular television programs, I think. Yeah, I'm always surprised. I feel like I don't remember this every time, but his name is at the end of every Boardwalk Empire. You know what's funny is how much – did you guys like that – what was the show he just produced? I didn't speak. You just mentioned it. What was it called? one before entourage yeah that one do you guys watch that did you watch i watched it twice i watched it once i had a i had a roommate who uh who was into it for a while so i've maybe seen five or six and they're they're pretty reprehensible i
Starting point is 00:17:40 could tell i could tell that every one of those people were acting every second of the show. Yeah, but I can't. That's the word. I could never have heard an acceptable reason for why people like Entourage. I can't believe that was popular. Yeah. And even to warrant a movie that might be coming out. You know, so weird.
Starting point is 00:17:57 There's two reasons I think why people like Entourage. Oh, okay. I don't mean to be rude about it. Sure. Number one reason I think people like Entourage is because they aspire to be an asshole. Number two reason is that they enjoy being contemptuous of assholery, but they don't realize that they're just feeding it. Sure. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:23 That's the basic reasons. Yeah. You know, the people that I know, because I know there's, I mean, this roommate that I had liked it and was not an asshole, was a lovely person. But yeah, I just have a couple of like friends around who are like, you know, TV people. Like I love TV, you know, and who just like Entourage and I – they've tried to explain it but it seems so circular. It's like someone trying to explain Scientology to you. It feels good.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's like it's such a complicated explanation you zone out midway through. It feels good to hear you say this because I've never talked about this with anyone outside my house. Sure. And this is good. Yeah, I couldn't. I'm glad this has been – this is a healing. This has been a balm for you. I have some real good closure I'm getting about Entourage on this episode.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Well, I think there's a certain pleasure that can be gained from in a completely no stakes way, which is to say watching a television show. Sure. Living like how one would live if one was an unselfconscious king of the world dick. Sure. Living like how one would live if one was an unselfconscious king of the world dick. Sure. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Like, that's the impression that I get, as would be the appeal of the show, is that the characters on the show, things substantially work out well for them because they're kind
Starting point is 00:19:43 of king of the world type dudes who have been given a lot. Right? Yeah. And it could be enjoyable to sort of try on that coat for a while. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like, I don't think the show is completely unselfconscious. I think if you ask Mark Wahlberg are these guys dicks, he would say yes. Sure. Right? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, so... But at the same time... Yeah, I don't think you're, you know, supposed to think they're yes. Sure. Right? I think so, yeah. Yeah, so, but at the same time Yeah, I don't think you're, you know, supposed to think they're cool. Right. Necessarily. Yeah, but it still kind of makes me feel a little sick in the pit of my stomach.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah, it's tough. You know, something that I thought pulled off that tone really, really well, that check out these dicks tone, I thought Wolf of Wall Street was just great and like a great, you know, it is just a movie of dicks being the world's biggest dicks. But it even kind of seemed to have a point.
Starting point is 00:20:30 The point was, hey, look at these dicks. Oh, they can ruin the country. Like that kind of made it a – kind of have a little bit of a horror movie aspect to it. But I thought that was really good and well done. So I think check out these Dicks can be done. I don't know. Just nothing seemed fun about Entourage. They actually did ruin the country.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Right, yeah. They actually kind of did ruin the country. It was a real-life horror movie. Sure. It was a reality show that turned out to be a horror movie. Yeah, yeah. I have felt, I've been feeling that way. I'm only four or five episodes in.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Like I should become a hedge fund manager. Yeah. No. Like I've been feeling that way about the show Transparent. Something that I really think it's an excellent show. I don't know if you've seen it, but basically it's about a father who is transgendered, is a woman. And his kids are kind of rich Los Angeles blithe hipster dipshits.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Sure. You know, one is sort of the mom version of that. One is sort of the dude who's like a little bit too old to work at a record label version of that one is the sort of aimless younger one version of that and i what i think it does in a really nice way is it lets them do dumb stuff and act like dicks um without either celebrating them for it or condemning them for it, but just sort of like letting them be human beings that do dumb stuff and act like dicks, which is such a rare thing that a show doesn't just telegraph either like we're supposed to ride with these people and celebrate everything they do or the reverse of that, which is to
Starting point is 00:22:24 say we're supposed to just think these people are reprehensible. And that impresses me very much about that particular program. Yeah. I could probably say that's the reason that I enjoy – that I still enjoy girls. Yeah. Because it does a good job of like just having a kind of person being kind of honest about it and – but sometimes they're a total dick. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:24:44 A little Wolfman Jackie, how you doing? Oh, yeah. Yeah, so it makes me feel good. I don't usually sound like this, so. Do you think you could just perform for us a quick rendition of Boom Boom by John Lee Hooker? Boom, boom, boom, boom. There you go. See?
Starting point is 00:24:59 It was great. Jimmy Dore, ladies and gentlemen. Jack Black's Jimmy. Blues legend Jimmy Dore. Jimmy, I feel like I haven't talked to you about. So you've been doing, for the last couple of years, you've been doing a show called The Jimmy Dore, ladies and gentlemen. Jack Black's Jimmy. Blues legend Jimmy Dore. Jimmy, I feel like I haven't talked to you about. So you've been doing, for the last couple of years, you've been doing a show called The Jimmy Dore Show on KPFK here in Los Angeles, which is the local Pacifica affiliate. Yes. And it also airs across the country on a few Haldorff shows.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I'm in another station. And it's on BAI, which is still on the air in New York, which is nice. So WBAI – I have a friend who has a show on WBAI. WBAI is the New York affiliate of the Pacifica Network. This is the oldest FM radio network in the country, the oldest non-commercial radio network in the country. Dedicated initially towards specifically peace, which is why it's called the Pacifica Network. Correct. But now generally sort of oriented towards whatever leftist politics, social justice, those issues.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So WBAI, as you might imagine, they have wonderful stations, a lot of wonderful programming. Maybe not the most efficient management i watched a video so i have a friend who has a show on wbai in new york a hip-hop show wonderful show is one of the first one of the first big hip-hop radio shows and um he posted so bai has almost gone out of business a few times in the last few years. Correct. Despite having a radio signal in the largest city in America. Yes. And mostly because of stuff that we probably remember from our days in community radio in Santa Cruz where everything is the Pacifica Network.
Starting point is 00:26:40 But he posted a video of a meeting at WBAI. But he posted a video of a meeting at WBAI and BAI has like – BAI has like – it's like a democratic system. The people are – Super democratic. Yeah. Too much democracy is a bad thing. Yes, as it turns out. But what's amazing is – If you want a host to show you, you have to be holding the talking stick. This is like a board meeting of WBAI where they're meeting to discuss, among other things, like one of the big problems at this station is that they've come – because of financial problems, they end up doing a lot of pledge driving.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And their pledge driving has more and more become oriented towards snake oil type stuff. Not exclusively. Some shows won't do it, but then... My show does not do that. It brings in money consistently for this station that's on the rocks, and then they end up, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:32 it's like the whatever, supplements and weird stuff. So there's a lot of controversy at this station. They have this board meeting, and I watched this video of this board meeting, and what's amazing about it is
Starting point is 00:27:44 there's... It's,'s like ultra-democratic. Everyone is making a motion to do this and a motion to do that. Nobody's listening to anyone else. They're sort of yelling at each other, but also everyone is making a motion. Like everyone is sort of adhering to the rules of order. Sure. But also yelling at each other. Right. But the best part is there's just this huge dude
Starting point is 00:28:06 pacing around the conference table holding a baseball bat. Wow. Really? Yeah. Wow. Just mad-dogging everyone that's sitting at the table.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Wow. Like Robert De Niro and Capone. Just this huge guy holding a baseball... Like a 50-year-old man with a shaved head holding a baseball bat. I guess Iyear-old man with a shaved head holding a baseball bat. I guess I'm envisioning everyone with a gray ponytail. That's, well, roughly.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I mean, you got some people with afros. Okay. Sure, sure, sure. But, yeah, it's certainly predominantly gray ponytails. I mean, we used to do, we used to, Jordan and I used to be on, in our college radio station, we used to lead into a networked version of the KPFA news, KPFA being the Berkeley Pacifica station. Right. And our big taste of what it was like to be on a Pacifica station was that when KPFA's news would start late, which it did often, not a disciplined start time, people would call us and yell at us because they thought we were trying to censor the KPFA News. Funny.
Starting point is 00:29:12 That's some young Republicans that snuck on the air to take down the lefty news. No, ma'am. We're just waiting for them to start, ma'am. But I can only imagine that you doing like a satirical show. Your show is very satirical, very funny. Thank you. And I can only imagine that you have like a broad swath of people who are listening to your program, getting it, on board, not weirdos,
Starting point is 00:29:39 but then just a distinctive weirdo element. Oh, no doubt. We've made that element a character weirdo element. Oh, no doubt. We've made that element a character on the show. And it's the world's most offended listener. Sure. And they always call in. They're always offended at something. And they don't have to be anywhere.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Were you at the comedy club when Daniel Tosh made the rape? No, I wasn't. And what you're using is proximity bias. Just because I wasn't there doesn't mean I can't be offended. So there are things like that. And they go through the archives of KPFK's old shows and they'll call in saying, I was listening to this so-called comedian, Henny Youngman, and he told me to take my wife and I was offended. I'm not going to take his wife. She's a person. Well, I mean, in marriage, it's such a patriarchal institution. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 So we do get that element. Also, I like to make fun of religion on my show, all of them. And so if I'm making fun of the Pope. Hold on. Are you doing a Zoroastrianism material? Yes, we have done that. Okay, good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Thank you. As long as the Zoroastrians get what's coming to them. Sure. But we'll always get the- Take those Baha'is down a peg, huh? We'll always get the call saying, oh, you don't have the guts to make fun of the Muslims. And if we're making fun of Muslims, oh, you would never say that about the Jews. And if we're doing that, you'd never say that. So we always get that. But the thing I like is I was coming into the station the other day, and it was during a pledge drive. And there was a lady who works at the pledge drive, came up to me and said, oh, you're Jimmy Dore?
Starting point is 00:31:07 I said, yes. She said, you know, I listen to your show and I know you bleep the swear words, but I can still tell what words they are. So she wants to be more confused by the show. She wants the show to be more confusing. I was like, I really don't. I can't help you. I don't know what to do. So is her solution to like bleep the two words in front and behind it too?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Maybe. I have to take the context out so she can understand what I'm swearing about. Right. We once had a, early on in our career doing The Sound of Young America, the show that preceded both this one and my current NPR show, Bullseye, we had a woman call in who was a DJ on our station that we worked on. Her name was Klesha, the folk goddess. And she said she called in to the on-air number, which we had not given out on the air.
Starting point is 00:31:55 We weren't taking calls at the time, but she knew it because she was a host on the station. She called into the studio, which was just a direct line. There's no producer's booth at our station, right? Right. So we pick up the phone. Just a handset that rings. Yeah. We pick up the phone to answer the phone.
Starting point is 00:32:08 She says, is this the Sound of Young America, which is the name of our show at the time. I said, yes, this is the Sound of Young America. And she said, this is Klesha, the folk goddess. This show represents everything that's wrong with KZSC. Your show? Yes. Yay. Your show?
Starting point is 00:32:25 Our show. I wasn't a listener back then, but I can't imagine. Probably interviewing Matt Besser or something, you know? I don't know. Your show. Our show. Did she just hang up after that, or did she want to, like, hash it out on air? No, she just, like, hung up on us.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Wow. And then I saw her, like, at a meeting. I'm like, huh? What's the deal? We should have the folk goddess. And she didn't say anything? She just mad-dogged us. Wow. And then I saw her at a meeting and I'm like, huh? What's the deal? We should have the folk goddess. And she didn't say anything? She's mad dog us. Yeah. A lot of mad dogging going on here. I will say though, there certainly are drawbacks. You've got to take the
Starting point is 00:32:53 pluses with the minuses, right? Right. There's certainly a lot of drawback. They take zero corporate money. Like, zero. Yeah. So they don't have underwriters. Right. Which is just commercials. So yeah, they don't take any of that money. So consequently, you have a lot of infighting. You have different factions of – there's the certain different kinds of lefties just like there's different – there's libertarians.
Starting point is 00:33:14 There's Republicans. There's all different. So there's all kinds of people. But I get to say whatever the hell I want on the air. No one ever says anything about – and the more offensive it is, the better. And that was – that's the station that had the famous George Carlin, 13 words – or seven words you can't say on TV. That went to the Supreme Court because of Pacifica. And they now refer to it as the Carlin Rules.
Starting point is 00:33:33 FCC does. So anyway, so it is a great place in a lot of ways. And it's nice to be surrounded by like-minded lefties even if some of them might be talking about mermaids. About how mermaids are real? Yes. Okay. Well, how mermaids are pulling the levers of America's government. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Sure, sure. No doubt about it. But there's a lot of great shows over there. That mermaid lobby. Or, well, merman against mermaid sexism. Sure, yeah. Merman privilege. A mermaid can't swim down the Bering Strait without getting fish called.
Starting point is 00:34:10 That doesn't really work. I've been lucky to find that. I feel lucky that I found KPFK and Pacifica because I don't think I would have been able to do my show anywhere else. And then I found – I bumped into – Cenk Uygur bumped in. I was invited to do the show there with the Young Turks online. And so they're the largest online news show. They have 3 billion views. And we're also very simpatico, like-minded.
Starting point is 00:34:30 They enjoy my irreverence. Their crowd enjoys it. And that's why people turn to the internet for news because you go on – corporate news is ridiculous. You go dumber after watching CNN. I'm literally dumber. Same thing with Brian Williams. They're not informing people anymore. I'd love to go off on a 20-minute rant about that right now if I could.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Jimmy, we've brought you here to offer your thoughts on corporate news. We're taking a hard left turn here on Jordan, Jesse Goh. Sure. Away from dick jokes and towards mass media commentary. Next week's guest, Bob Garfield from On The Media. Speaking of dick jokes, they have a thing now. I saw a commercial for this on the internet. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:19 A woman takes a vibrator, inserts it, and then her husband or her lover can be in a remote area and control it. Like, that's a thing. Sure. Have you guys heard about this? I have heard about this, yes. And there's, like, commercials for it now. And then there's also commercials for a guy to use a flashlight.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I'm like, you guys don't need commercials for this shit. It's like commercials for pot. You don't need a commercial for a flashlight. You know, I saw a really like stylish commercial for a fleshlight. Yeah, I saw it. That's what I'm talking about. It was, you know what? Okay, this wasn't exactly a fleshlight.
Starting point is 00:35:50 This was a, this was a glove and the glove had various textures on it and each finger of the glove had a different thing that could be used for stimulation. Really? So this is like, was this for interpersonal or intrapersonal stimulation? Yes and yes. Okay. Yeah. Either way.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Some of the things on the end of the fingers, I'm like, oh, I get what that's for. Like, that's for, you know, working the taint. Sure. But some of the things, I did not know what they were for. What if it was just a toothbrush? It eclipsed my boundless sexual knowledge. One of them was a simulation of a cat's barbed penis. Right, exactly, for cat-in-it.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah, then there's just a wine opener if you want to pour yourself a nice glass of wine while you jerk it. A nice glass of red wine. Who doesn't think that enhances any sexual experience? Get you relaxed. Jesse, I'm going to go ahead and correct you there. It's actually you have white wine with masturbation. Red wine with meat, with steak. Sorry, I'm not a sommelier.
Starting point is 00:36:55 That's okay. No, that's okay. I'm not a sensual sommelier. It's a reasonable gaffe. Which is a new thing in Brooklyn. Wait, what is it called? Sensual sommelier. What are they?
Starting point is 00:37:05 They pair wines with sexual experiences. That's great. Good job, Jesse. Thank you. Is that a real thing? No. Okay. But it is now.
Starting point is 00:37:16 But if it was, I don't think any of us would go. No, I wouldn't. I guarantee that a Jordan Jesse Go listener in either Brooklyn or Portland just got a business idea. Sure. I bet. Yeah, they're abandoning their $8 toast store right now. I can't believe that isn't already a thing. Like, that sounds like a thing.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah, sure. I don't know how sex, a physical activity would change the taste of wine, because wine and food and all that. Well, this person, this sensual sommelier, I'm guessing would be full of shit. Right. So this would be a fake thing. Yeah. A person who's tricking you. No, a regular sommelier is not full of shit.
Starting point is 00:37:54 He might be. He might be. I've known a few. Yeah? I don't know. You know, I don't know. I'm not a wine. I mean, I like a glass of wine, but I don't know why it's different from another glass of wine.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I'll tell you this. Thank you. I'm not a drinker, so I don't have personal experience. But I have interviewed Mary Roach about her book, Gulp, which is all about adventures on the elementary canal, going from taste to poops. Sure. And Mary— For the listener at home, Jesse pointed to his butt when he said poops. And to my mouth when I said taste.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah, it's less funny, though. to his butt when he said poops. And to my mouth when I said taste. Yeah, it's less funny, though. And Mary did this thing where she went, who basked on Jordan and Jesse, go wonderful science writer, super funny, super brilliant lady.
Starting point is 00:38:35 She did this thing where she went to a tasting panel for olive oil. And she tasted the olive oil, and she could not taste the difference between the olive oils. But there were other people who could taste the difference between the olive oils and they were consistent in doing so. It is a skill that is developed. So in other words, while on the aggregate, nobody can tell the difference between wines
Starting point is 00:39:00 except maybe red versus white. You know what I mean? If you develop the skill, it is actually real. Okay. That makes sense to me. You know, I don't like wine, but it's only because I think I've always had bad wine. Every once in a while, my wife will say, you've got to try this. And I go, oh, that is, I like that.
Starting point is 00:39:18 But it's no heroin. It is no heroin. But I do like to have a dry Asahi beer with sushi. Sure. That is nice. Something about a dry Asahi beer with sushi. Sure. Nice. That is nice. Something about a dry beer with sushi is fantastic. Can I go back to this jerk-off glove, please?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yes, please. Oh, wow. I insist. No, I think my point was that the commercial for this thing was really well done. They had a voiceover, but it was not creepy. It was just a normal guy talking about this jerk-off club. Fun for everybody. You know, just a normal dude that I could relate to.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Maybe somebody I, you know, that would be on my kickball team. So when you say a normal guy, you're not talking about a guy's guy. No, no. This is a, you know. It wasn't one of these situations like, hey, are you guys into jerking off? No, yeah. No, no. It was definitely not that guy.
Starting point is 00:40:07 It was not the Spike TV announcer. Okay. So it's just like, you know, when John Krasinski does those car insurance commercials? Sure. He's just, hey. Yeah. You can fucking trust John Krasinski. Hey, I know this stuff is confusing.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I'm John Krasinski. You know, I'm just like you. Like, this guy seemed like a guy like me from a similar socioeconomic background. To me, I see a big problem with normalizing that kind of sexual... I mean, that should exist, and I don't want to shame anyone for it,
Starting point is 00:40:36 but there should be some shame involved in sex for it. Because that gives you a kick. That's not even a... It makes you blast harder, is what you're saying. No doubt. I mean, if it wasn't a little dirty or wrong or whatever, it would take all the goddamn fun out of it. Yeah. You need it for the zip. Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah. Anyway, I – Oh, no. That toothbrush thing will give you a little zip. Toothbrush on the pinky? Oh, sure. Absolutely. But yeah, I was going to say that this well-done commercial made me consider a male sex toy.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Maybe not that complicated, you know, the complicated Wolverine glove. Like, I don't think I need, you know. What do you think you need? So it has claws on it? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. They're made of adamantium.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Okay. Yeah. Exactly. What would you? I don't know. I mean, I probably won't. Do you think Wolverine's real superpower is his refractory time? Being able to work the taint?
Starting point is 00:41:29 I'm the best there is at what I do, and that's work the taint, Bob. I have adamantium bones and adamantium waste boners. Gross. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that I would go through with it. I mean, I feel like I'm pretty good at masturbating. I don't want you to brag, guys. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:49 But it definitely, like, made me. You put in your 10,000 hours. But the production values of this thing, I Malcolm Gladwell'd that shit. Yeah, so, yeah, it made me consider it in a way that I never had because of the good production values of this commercial was my point. Right. Because it doesn't feel like you have to go into a creepy sex store in order to do it. It's something that is just for regular Joes like you, me, and John Krasinski. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:19 You know what? I'll tell you why John Krasinski is special. Because he's like you or me. He's like a version of you or me that's friends with George Clooney. You know what I mean? You know how we all like to imagine that in the right context we could be friends with George Clooney?
Starting point is 00:42:34 John Krasinski's already done it. He made the movie Leatherheads. So we can all project ourselves into a situation where we're pals with Clooney. I don't think... You have to have quite an ego to project yourself into the shoes of George Clooney. Yeah. But we can imagine ourselves.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I feel like I would fuck it up. Like I would fuck up George Clooney if I got to possess him for a couple days. Sure. But you could probably imagine yourself being John Krasinski or Richard Kind. Mm-hmm. Right? When I was in New York, I saw Richard Kind on the street. There you go.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It was a lot of fun. Yeah. I don't know where he was going. What kind of sex toys do you think Richard Kind did? Oh, so – but to your – the thing you were talking about, Jimmy, the remote-controlled lady stimulator. Now, I've seen a thing that it comes with an underwear And you put it in the front pocket of an underwear And it vibrates Is this the thing?
Starting point is 00:43:28 No this was a different thing It was small And then it slipped inside It looked kind of like a A U but turn it on its side A C? Yeah a C I guess It would be a C
Starting point is 00:43:40 A sideways U? Damn it a C I have concealed how? That's right. Damn it. See, I've concealed how dumb I am pretty good except in Dartmouth until that moment. Yeah, so that was that. And then I saw one for The Fleshlight, which was, again, the production value is a friend. You think you're watching a regular commercial. Sure. And you're like, what the F did I just watch?
Starting point is 00:43:58 I feel like I recognize that voice. Is that Donald Sutherland? Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think Matthew McConaughey needs to do a sex toy commercial to go along with his Lincoln commercial. He's just driving in his Lincoln at night. Yeah. He just grabs and sluts.
Starting point is 00:44:13 But, you know, I think, you know, with the remote-controlled partner diddler. Right. I mean, you know, I don't know if you're a married guy. I'm married, sure. You know. Been're a married guy. I'm married, sure. You know. Been married for four years. I think, you know, something guys got to learn is that ladies appreciate it. Appreciate.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Just during the day, if you send them a little something to say, I'm thinking about you. Right. Just that text. Just, you know, how's it going? Edible arrangement. Sure. Exactly. Ate a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Thought you would have liked it. We'll get the sandwich soon, honey. I love you. Yeah, sure. What if you could do that? You're a regular Cyrano de Bergerac. Oh, yeah, sure. If I've got a schlubby friend who gets a little tongue-tied around women, tell her you want to eat the sandwich soon. So these are your tips on how to get a woman hot? Well, I mean, I'm just saying that this is like a sexual version of the thinking about your text.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah. It's like a sexual sandwich. Yeah. Like, think about if that, you know, just wanted to say hi text. Was a. Vibrated. On your. An area.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah. And your kibbles and bits. Sure. Sure. I like that. Yeah. Well, Jordan, I want to say thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:27 That's not just on my own behalf. That's on behalf of Jimmy Dore. Yeah. That's on behalf of Brian Fernandez. Sure. That's on behalf
Starting point is 00:45:33 of the tens of thousands of people across this great country who listen to Jordan Jessico every week. I feel like there's going to be a lot of girlfriends
Starting point is 00:45:41 and boyfriends out there who get a text about sandwiches. Yeah. You're saving relationships. I feel like there's going to be a lot of girlfriends and boyfriends out there who get a text about sandwiches. You're saving relationships, George. Yeah. You are. Listen, if you make a sandwich, if you eat a sandwich that makes you think of your partner, tell them. Don't keep it a secret.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Say how you feel. Something with a nice, like, toast with pate. Hey, sure. Some arugula. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Or just a hard salami. Hard salami on Country White, you know?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Why would anyone eat a soft salami when they get a hard salami? Don't know. Don't know. I don't mean that as a sex thing, but it works either way. Is there any other kind of salami than the hard salami? Yeah, a soft salami. There must be a soft salami. It's not as good.
Starting point is 00:46:23 It's like a bologna, but it's not nearly as good as a hard salami. Is there really a thing called soft salami? Yes. Okay. Well, I mean, I don't know. Is it called soft salami? Or is it called bologna? There's a type of salami that's not hard salami.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Oh, no kidding. I did not know this. It's not any good. Oh, okay. I mean, it's okay. It's not. That's why I didn't catch that. It's not any good compared to hard salami.
Starting point is 00:46:41 The whole point of salami is that you're getting the extra tang from the aging process and the putrefaction of the meat. The meat's not pickling itself. Sure. And dehydrating, hanging from a pole in an Italian delicatessen is not a real salami. What's the point of eating it? I'm with you on that one, buddy. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse, go. It's Jordan, Jesse, go.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, steal Santa. Jackpot Jimmy. Is this nickname ever a source or it's just about... Yesterday I was doing the Young Turks news show and somebody recommended a nickname for me. It's Jackpot Jimmy. And I was like, I like that. Those are fucking good nicknames.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Do you have a natural sense of luck? Yes. Okay. Yes, I do. I believe that people like me and want to do things for me and it always works out that way. I noticed that you were wearing that horseshoe around your neck. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:44 It's a sideways C. Your wife will send you periodic horseshoe vibrations to rub your neck. Just to say, I'm thinking of you. There's a sandwich waiting when you get home. Jordan, I think we got something up on the Jumbotron this week. We do.
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Starting point is 00:48:25 no, ma'am, do not do that. It's not safe for you, not safe for the dog. So here you go. She should probably go to Curgo. Yeah. Thank you to Curgo. If you want to get up on the Jumbotron, it's MaximumFun.org slash Jumbotron. Hey, I've got something to mention.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Let's hear it. Guess what happens the day after Thanksgiving, Jordan? I mean, Black Friday. You're going to see Jimmy Dore tell jokes at Rooster Teeth Feathers in San Jose? Cock-a-doodle-doo. But no.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Am I familiar with Rooster Teeth Feathers? Yes. Okay. Isn't it like Sunnyvale or something? Yes, it's Sunnyvale. Great.
Starting point is 00:48:56 There you go. Jordan, remember when you did that comedy contest at Rooster Teeth Feathers? Yeah, I do. That was fun. It was a lot of fun. That was a long time ago now.
Starting point is 00:49:03 We're old. Like 10 years ago. Oh, yeah. You guys hosted a comedy contest? Jordan performed in a comedy contest. Oh, no kidding. Oh, great. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Did you keep doing it? I did stand up a little bit. I've kind of done it on and off, but never thought I got too good at it. Oh, okay. Didn't put in the time, I would say. That's on me. That's on me.
Starting point is 00:49:22 10,000. The day after Thanksgiving, Max Fun Con tickets go on sale. What? Yeah. Look, it's June 12th through 14th, 2015. I will never – we do not announce the lineup until the springtime. And usually by the time we announce the lineup, it is sold out. In fact, almost always. The last couple of years, it sold out before the newtime. And usually by the time we announce the lineup, it is sold out. In fact, almost always.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Last couple of years, it sold out before the new year. So if you want to get tickets, that's the time to get them. Go to maxfundcon.com. If you wanted to go right now, you can put your email in. We'll send you an email when they go on sale.
Starting point is 00:50:00 But otherwise, day after Thanksgiving, easy as pie. I will say I will be there. Jordan will be there. Hopefully Brian will be there. I don't know. We haven't talked about it yet.
Starting point is 00:50:11 George Clooney. If he's available. George Clooney may be there. Again, I will not announce the lineup. We're trying to lure in Krasinski first. You get Krasinski, you get Clooney. At least Richard Kind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:23 So maxfuncon.com is where to go for that day after Thanksgiving because it's the fucking best thing. Max Fun Con's great. It's a blast. Totally a blast. Every single year
Starting point is 00:50:34 it's never not a blast. Yeah. So maxfuncon.com we'll be back in just a second on Jordan as we go. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, and a really solid nickname. That's a great nickname. That's going to become an Alzheimer. That's my prediction. There's no Explodo, but that's an unreasonable standard to expect from people.
Starting point is 00:51:11 It's unreasonable. It's like saying about a movie, that's no anaconda. You can't ask of people that they come in with the dignity of public radio host and celebrated literary novelist Kurt Anderson and then without prompting drop the actual childhood nickname Explodo on us. That's too much to ask because it's just too much to ask somebody to come in here and have as much dignity as Kurt Anderson.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Few do. I mean that's like – he has top 2% dignity. He's in Sidney Poitier territory. Yeah. Love it when Kurt Anderson goes under those lasers too. That is. Kurt Anderson is a bit of a silver fox. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I have no dignity. I'm in show business. Yeah. There you go. I'm willing to do anything. You're right. If you had, instead of writing a funny book about politics, if you had instead written a literary historical novel about turn of the century, turn of the 20th century New York, then you could be attempting to get to Kurt Anderson levels of dignity. Yeah, no. That sounds like a lot of work. It would help if you were friends with Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I'm just throwing out a few ideas. Do you think it's Kurt Anderson's voice on that Jackoff Glove commercial? It probably is. It's probably why I wanted it so much. Oh, man. I would do a voice for a Jackoff Glove commercial. Oh, I would too. But Adam and Eve is out of the question. I don't a voice for a Jack Off Glove commercial. Oh, I would too. But Adam and Eve is out of the question.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I don't want to do Adam and Eve. Well, I'm not against. It's not that I'm not against Jack Off Gloves. I just want a positive, non-creepy vibe. And in all my sex-related things, I do not demand, but I prefer that it be lesbian-owned. That's reasonable. At least a 60% lesbian staff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:12 When it comes down to sexual equipment, I trust the lesbian. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because they got the right attitude. They got the right social position. You know what I mean? That's the group that I'm turning to. Just throwing it out there.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And, you know, probably in general, I mean, you know, hard to make a sweeping generalization about an entire group of people. But likely to be crafty. Yeah, exactly. Relatively likely. Relatively speaking. Not to paint with a broad brush. No. But if we could paint with some glitter glue, we would say.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Sure. When something momentous happens to you, the Jordan Jesse Go listener, we have you call us at 206-984-4FUN, 206-984-4FUN, a number that frankly
Starting point is 00:53:58 should be programmed into your mobile telephone. In fact, if it's not, program it in right now, 206-984-4FUN, for our segment, Moment it in right now. 206-984-4FUN. For our segment, Momentous Occasions. Some of you have called in.
Starting point is 00:54:14 We've chosen the best among you to share here on our airwaves. Metaphorical airwaves, of course. This is a podcast. Let's hear our first call. Hi, Jordan, Jesse, and guests. This is Peter calling from Seattle. Just calling in with a momentous occasion. I was at a Halloween party just last night,
Starting point is 00:54:32 and I was standing in the bathroom line with two other folks, and this girl in the line said, oh, we should all pee at the same time. I would speed things up and weird people out. So thinking this was a joke, I kind of went along with it. But then the door opened, and she let us in. She kind of grabbed us by the arms and brought us into the bathroom, and she quickly cleaned the toilet. The other gentleman cleaned the sink,
Starting point is 00:54:50 and so I was left to step into the bathtub and pee down the drain. And once we finished, she had us all high-five, and then we all exited the bathroom at once. And that was one of the weirder things that's happened to me at any sort of social gathering. once, and that was one of the weirder things that's happened to me at any sort of social gathering. And the cherry on top is that
Starting point is 00:55:07 this bathtub belongs to my ex-girlfriend's current boyfriend, who she started dating while I was out of state during our long-distance relationship. So, getting into that bathtub kind of felt like a little bit of harmless vindication. So, yeah. Thanks, guys. Love the show.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Bye. I feel pretty good about this. That was a roller coaster for me, but I think I'm coming out on the other side for everything that happened. Right. I was up and down about it. I'll be honest with you. You entered it neutral because we always keep an open mind, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:55:41 That's one of the bedrock principles of Jordan, Jesse, go. No judgments here. Safe space. Yeah. No bias. Absolutely not. This is a no put down zone. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:53 I thought for sure that was going to turn a little bit more sexual. Yeah. You know, I kind of wanted it to by the end. Yeah. I thought she was going to have, they were going to all use the toilet at the same time in some way. Sure. That she was going to sit down, maybe spread her legs. They were going to try and be super
Starting point is 00:56:08 you know, like snipers. Toilet sniping. That's what I thought was going to happen. What did you think was going to happen, Jesse? Here's what I would ask of you. What? Just watch your tone because this show is distributed on the internet and the last thing we want to do is cyber
Starting point is 00:56:24 bully. Yeah. Who did I bully just now? People who didn't engage in a three-way sexual pee contest. Oh, okay. We don't want to make them feel like they're less than because they didn't engage in a three-way sexual pee contest. Yeah, let's turn that carrot the other way around. Make it greater than. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Oh, okay. I've been telling you what I thought was going to happen. Yeah. It sounds fun. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I guess you're the bigger man going to the boyfriend's house party. Right. I might say, I don't know how long ago this happened.
Starting point is 00:56:59 It might seem like the wound's a little fresh and you should maybe let them have their space. But, you know. Now that you're back in state. Now that you're back in state. Now that you're back in state. Yeah. From out of state. Yeah. But yeah, I think this is a net positive for everybody.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Good job. You know what I like is this young woman took charge of this situation. Sure. Said this is a party. Let's party. Let's have some fun. Let's create a memorable moment. Let's get outside our...
Starting point is 00:57:28 You know what? That's exactly right. I think if right now we were to create a reality television show about party planners, the number one thing that would happen on our show is we would say, our party planning business, Jimmy Jordan Jackpot Parties. Jackpot Industries, sure. Is a business that's about creating memorable moments. Whether it's you come into the garden and there's a giraffe there.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Sure. Or whether it's for the first time three people pee in one bathroom with one toilet. Those are memorable moments. That's what makes parties special. And I applaud this woman for creating this memorable moment. And I want. Are we reaching out to her to join the industry, to join jackpot industries? Yeah. OK. I would love. I mean, maybe just on like an affiliate level or something. Yeah. I mean, not as a full-time. Well, look, we've got Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:58:28 He's sort of the brains and the political muscle in this operation. Right. Yes. Definitely. Jordan, you're sort of like the wit. You're like the lighthearted wit. Sure. I'm like, because I host an NPR program, I'm sort of the gravitas to some extent.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And in some ways, because I own a lot of suits, I'm going to be client facing. Okay. What this team needs is a wild card. Yeah. And that's why I say we bring in this woman. She injects a little bit of her signature madness into every party that we plan. madness into every party that we plan. So she might say, well, you know, what if at a certain time, you know, everybody gets party poppers.
Starting point is 00:59:11 We all shoot off party poppers or whatever. I don't know. I'm not a wild card, obviously. Sure. This is for her. Yeah, sure. I'm client facing. What we promise is there's going to be a wild card moment in every party that we plan.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah. I mean, sure. You could throw another party without Jackpot Industries. Right. Maybe you'll get some seasonal beers. Right. A cheese plate. Crudités.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Sure. Something on a salt platter. Yeah. Everybody will sit around talking about, I don't know, how much they love cereal. Sure. When's Mad Men coming back remember quisp what's quisp cereal oh yeah that's great remember whist but that's a card game but if you sign up with jackpot industries jackpot party planning uh yeah maybe you'll all line up and punch one particular guy in the balls.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Can I suggest a theme? Sure. For one of our parties? Urine and feces? Pinnacle. Oh. A popular card game. Sure.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I guess maybe my mind is just stuck on card games right now, but I'm thinking Pinnacle could be a good party theme. Do you think that's as memorable as peeing in the same room as two other people, one of them female? If it's a really good game of Pinnacle. Okay. And it's 1938.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Right. Pinnacle requires its own set of cards. Am I correct on that? Does it really? Or do you use regular playing cards? Does Pinnacle require
Starting point is 01:00:39 its own set of cards? I'm pretty sure about that. Like naked lady cards? Because I wish. I remember when I was a young man and we would often go to play cards and we I wish. I remember when I was a young man, and we would often go to play cards, and we'd go, oh, damn, I got a pinnacle deck. And it wouldn't
Starting point is 01:00:49 work out. I think We should explain that you were a young man in 1938. Sure. Everyone would go to play cards. Like, well, we have a pinnacle deck. I guess we'll just have to chase a hoop with a stick, which is the other activity.
Starting point is 01:01:07 It's a 48-card deck, see? Going to have to go run some rum. Yeah. Die in a mine. Yeah. You know, can I tell you something? My stepmother is from Belfast, Northern Ireland. She is a younger woman.
Starting point is 01:01:25 She's, I think, at this point in her early 50s, something like that. And she grew up playing with a hoop and a stick. What is the game? Is just trying to keep the hoop up for a long time? Yeah, you run down the street and you try and keep it from falling over. And once a week you get to eat meat.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Because of your hoop performance? Because of your poverty. Oh, okay. Nothing to do with your hoop performance. No, these are just the kind of markers of my stepmother's childhood. Yeah. Oh, also sectarian violence. Sure.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So those three things. Once a week you get to eat meat because you're poor. Yeah. Oh, also sectarian violence. Sure. So those three things. Once a week you get to eat meat because you're poor. Yeah. Number two, hoops and sticks. Sure. Number three, sectarian violence. And maybe for Christmas you get a third-hand copy of Ragged Dick to read. It's a popular book.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah. About someone who transcends their social strata. I'm glad that not only have we contributed a business idea to our listeners, the sensual sommelier, but we've also created a dynamic business of our own. That's great. Let's hear another call. Hi, Jordan, Jesse, and guests. I'm calling from Salt Lake City, and my name is Casey. I have a little toy store that I own, and the other day, I'm in the store. I'm in the back of the store with this lady, and we're looking for some pretend food for her son to pretend cook on his pretend stove.
Starting point is 01:03:03 and all of a sudden we hear this giant crash, this big bang. And we go running up to the front of the store and her son has jumped up on our train table and is stomping around like he's this little Godzilla destroying a little train town. And his mom looks at him and he's just stomping around and she yells, what's up, what's up? He's yelling, mom, mom, mom, mom. She's yelling, hey, stop, what's up? What's up? He's yelling, mom, mom, mom, mom. She's yelling, hey, stop.
Starting point is 01:03:27 What's up? He turns in this little kind of Michael Jackson pivot. Just kind of puts his foot down and just spins around, locks eyes with us. Just busts into the craziest Roger Rabbit, kind of Dougie. He's just scooting around and starts yelling, we like to move it, move it. We like to move it, move it. We like to move it, move it. And he's just going crazy, dancing up there, screaming this for like 20 seconds.
Starting point is 01:03:54 We're all just stoned, just staring at him. And then all of a sudden, she runs over, grabs him, sets him down on the ground next to the train table, and he just goes right back to playing train like nothing happened. Everybody in the store is just like rolling on the ground, holding their sides, just cannot believe that this happened. It's the craziest thing. It's super busy. We're having a sale, and tons of people in there.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Everybody has no idea what's going on, and this guy just goes right back to playing trains. We go right back to looking in the back. It was probably the craziest moment we've had in the store. Thought I'd share it with you because it was wild and I love the show and keep it up. Thanks. I mean, to say that
Starting point is 01:04:39 that was the craziest thing to ever happen in the model train store, that's saying a lot. Because I bet that place goes fucking off. Yeah. This shit. You know what the motto of his small toy store in Salt Lake City is? Turn down for what? Sure.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Because the store is turnt up. Sure. That's why. I would like for all of our listeners to open their own small toy stores in mid-size American cities. When he said toy store, at first I thought he said cloister. Don't you guys not talk? Why are you calling us? One of my nuns was getting out of hand.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Yeah. Those nuns can get pretty turned up. I would like to see. With their love of the Lord. Sure. I would like to see- With their love of the Lord. Sure. I would like to see small toy stores in Nashville, Knoxville, Columbus. Kansas City. KC.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Absolutely KC. Austin. Sure. Maybe Bronxville, New York. It's just outside of New York City. Phoenix? No. Too racist?
Starting point is 01:05:50 Too hot. Okay. You're fine with the racism, though. I would prefer... I mean, the more racist, the better when it comes to toy stores. Oh, yeah. Where else? Madison.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Yep. Salem, Oregon. Mm-hmm. I mean, if I went ahead and listed all the places in Idaho, I'd like to see our listeners have small toy stores. We'd be here all night. Bozeman. Sure, Bozeman. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Jimmy, where would you- Do you want to name some places? Where would you like to have- Here are our listeners have some toy stores. Oh, you know, it's about time somebody opened one up in Traverse City. Absolutely. I think so. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Thank you. Finally. This is why he's on free speech radio. It's because he's not afraid of the corporate fat cats that would keep small toy stores out of Traverse City, Michigan. That is correct. He doesn't think that just because there's been economic problems in the Rust Belt because of globalization.
Starting point is 01:07:02 It's a right to work state now, Michigan. Because of globalization. It's a right to work state now, Michigan. He thinks that they should open a small toy store in Traverse City. Correct. And it should be a union toy store. Exactly. The International Small Toy Store Workers of the World.
Starting point is 01:07:20 The I- It's a global union. S-T-S-W-W. Trains. Gliders. They're known as the Wobblies, but not to be confused with the international workers of the world. They're known as the Wobblies because they sell tops. It's why. Tops do get pretty wobbly.
Starting point is 01:07:40 They do. Especially when they're about to fall down. Oh, sure. I think we can all agree. And, of course, they also sell tops trading cards. Sure. Do they sell Weebles? Yeah, sure. Why not? Dungeons and Wobbly. Especially when they're about to fall down. I think we can all agree. And of course, they also sell Topps trading cards. Do they sell Weebles? Yeah, sure. Why not? Dungeons and Dragons handbooks. But they don't fall down.
Starting point is 01:07:52 That's true. Point taken. Point taken. Maybe you should get your ass over to Traverse City. What are you doing in the comedy industry? Show business is a bitch. Get him an industry that if I was to describe, if I was to use any phrase to describe running a small toy store in a midsize American town, it would be easy street. Oh.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Get off the golden road of show business. You don't need the headaches. They have different values down there. Yeah. a golden road of show business. You don't need the headaches. They have different values down there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And they value classic toys, model trains, lassos, hobby horses. Sure. Dungeons and Dragons manuals. Lassos. Both advanced and regular. Is this a Western toy store? Like a child's lasso. You know.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Child's lasso. For lassoing a child? Yeah, exactly. Hog tying him. Yeah? I have a comedy lasso I For lassoing a child? Yeah, exactly. Hog tying him. I have a comedy lasso I got from Will Rogers. Oh, sure. It's not the same thing.
Starting point is 01:08:52 In 1938 when you were a young man. Yeah, I was a young man in 1938. And I have the Benjamin Button disease but in reverse. Oh, okay. So you get older as time goes by. Okay, interesting. It's a burden. It's a burden. You're so brave.
Starting point is 01:09:04 206-984-4FUN is the number to call us at JJGO at MaximumFun.org. We'll be back in just a second with more. Love you, love you Love you, love you Love you, love you Hi, I'm Julie Sabatier, host of Destination DIY. It's a show about people taking matters into their own hands, and we're really excited to be bringing it to Maximum Fun. You know, having that experience of I can do that makes me feel like I can almost do anything.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Here at Destination DIY, we like to push the do-it-yourself envelope beyond crafts and home improvement. So tune in to hear the stories of makers, builders, inventors, and all kinds of creative people. You can essentially build a do-it-yourself space program today, and now, luckily, I'm a part of that. It's Jordan, Jesse Goe. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio speaker.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Jordan Morris, Steel Santa. Jimmy Dorn, Jackpot Jimmy. Best-selling author of your country's Just Not That Into You. Thank you very much. In bookstores and online now. Just go to JimmyDore.com. JimmyDoreComedy.com. JimmyDoreComedy.com.
Starting point is 01:10:40 You don't want to go to JimmyDore.com unless you want your roof fixed. That's correct. In Traverse City. Yes. That's that Jimmy Dore. Yeah. That Jimmy Dore is – It's Jimmy's doors.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Thank you. Now you just taped your hour special. One sec. This is my third special. My first two are on Comedy Central. The last one was called Citizen Jimmy, and it was chosen Best of the Year by iTunes. And the reason I tell you that is because it turns out if I don't, fucking nobody will. So the new one is for New Wave.
Starting point is 01:11:08 They shoot a lot of specials and I shot it last Friday at the El Portal Theater and it was, I had a heckler. At your special? At a television table. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 01:11:20 It was unbelievable. So I was doing a joke where I was talking about Occupy Wall Street and I was actually being sarcastic where I was pretending to not like them, but I was actually supporting them. Sure. The joke is, is there anything worse than a bunch of dirty degenerates making a perfectly valid point? Right. So that's the joke, right?
Starting point is 01:11:36 So I do that joke and I flubbed it a little. And I go, I want to do it again. And all of a sudden this guy starts telling me, you suck. You suck. You're no George Carlin. Fuck you, buddy. You're no George Carlin. And at first I thought it was want to do it again. And all of a sudden this guy starts telling me, you suck. You suck. You're no George Carlin. Fuck you, buddy. You're no George Carlin. And at first I thought it was.
Starting point is 01:11:48 You suck, filmmaker. You're no Orson Welles. Yeah. I seriously thought it was one of my friends. I'm like, of course this is someone screwing around because I'm redoing a joke and I look over. It's not. It's just some guy. And he had two cocktails with him.
Starting point is 01:12:00 How do you get two cocktails into a TV taping? He had both fists. And then I was like. Do you think he was just standing in line with martini glasses in his hands? with him. How do you get two cocktails into a TV taping? He had both fists. And then I was like... Do you think he was just standing in line with martini glasses in his hands? I don't know how he did that. I don't know what... Or maybe one martini glass, one tumbler. Yeah, maybe. But he looked... The funny thing
Starting point is 01:12:16 was, Jesse, is that he looked like... I just go, oh, Kassar, you have to go. You know, I go, if this was a nightclub, I'd insult you, everyone would laugh, and afterwards you'd tell me you thought I was funny and you're sorry. But that's not going to happen tonight because we're doing a TV show. So you have to leave right now. I don't have time.
Starting point is 01:12:30 And he's like looking at me like he was shocked that he had to leave. He couldn't. I was like, what? Why do I have to? Literally like, huh? Like looking around. And I was like, no, you have to go. It's costing everybody a lot of money to be here.
Starting point is 01:12:42 You got to get out of here. I can't worry about this. He's like, I'm the pepper on the Jimmy Dore television special steak. It was funny to me. Anyway, yeah, and normally it would bug me, but that was kind of comical. So that's my big story about my hour special. That will be out coming out in the spring. And they do a great job.
Starting point is 01:13:00 They've been shooting a lot of comic specials lately. They do a great job getting it on all the vod platforms you can usually yes you can buy it online easily you can watch it often on netflix etc etc etc yes and they're gonna have their uh i guess they're gonna have like their own button like netflix has on uh apple tv and stuff like that coming out next year there you go so i'll i'll be i'll be on the lookout for that jordan me too all right i was uh even though you're no George Carlin. Even though. Honestly, Jimmy, if I was going to be honest with you, I'd say you represent everything that's wrong with KPSA.
Starting point is 01:13:36 That's hilarious. I think I do. I think I do. Sure. But you know what's funny, Milo? Let's talk about George Carlin. I became friends with – I was so afraid. You meet your heroes and it never goes how you – for me, it never goes how I want it.
Starting point is 01:13:48 It was that way with me and Casper Weinberger. Oh, you had – me? I know. Oh, me too. One of my all-time heroes. Me with Cyrus Vance. Same thing. But no, so I don't – so I saw him right before he died at the Comedy Magic Club and I had never seen him at a club.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I'd only seen him in big places. And there's something about a comedy club, intimate. I mean, you could feel his funny coming out through his bones. It was like nothing I'd ever experienced by seeing him. And then the guy who ran the club asked me, does he want to come meet him? And I was like, no. I just want to enjoy him. I don't want to get to know him.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I don't want him to say something mean to me. Not that he would. You know what I mean? Or I would have misinterpreted or anything. Every story I've ever heard, he's the nicest guy in the world and he's my hero. And I just wanted to keep him that way. Right. And I did. So, and now I'm friends with his daughter, Kelly, and she, she couldn't be nicer. And she like shows me his stuff, his writings. Like she was showing all this stuff that she had discovered and that there's letters in there from Jerry Seinfeld to him. I was like, it was like going through this time capsule that was just amazing to me.
Starting point is 01:14:49 It really meant a lot to me. The letter from Jerry Seinfeld says, Dear George, honestly, I'm not crazy about your comedy. Too much content. More fluff. Have you tried doing a joke that has zero content? I'm super good at it. It comes out pretty funny when I do it.
Starting point is 01:15:08 You know, Jerry Seinfeld's always been one of my all-time favorite comedians. I was always drawn to people like George Carlin because I grew up repressed religiously. So it was a very big epiphany, a big cathartic thing when I first heard him. And so he's always been my favorite up there with Bill Hicks and everybody. But Jerry Seinfeld also. There's something about how he gets frustrated at the mundane things in life that are just, I don't know, you also need that to be released. And everything Jerry Seinfeld's ever said about comedy has been 100% right.
Starting point is 01:15:41 I know other people disagree with me, but I just love that guy. So it's funny. I could like someone like George Carlin deeply and totally be drawn to someone like Jerry Seinfeld. Well, Jerry Seinfeld, I mean, I've watched all of the episodes of comedians in cars getting coffee. I think the criticisms sometimes level the comedians in cars getting coffee. Like maybe it could use some content or a little less B-roll of coffee being made or, you know, those kinds of things are reasonable. But what I love about the show, I really enjoy the show. What I love about the show is Jerry Seinfeld sort of demonstrating that his mind can instantaneously transform any topic in the world into a pretty much perfectly rendered bit of observational comedy, just like at the drop of a hat.
Starting point is 01:16:39 And also maybe it doesn't have any interest in anything else. Maybe he's putting on a big show on Comedians in Cars doing coffee and not a small show, which is what it seems like. But it seems like if you were just if you were at a funeral with Jerry Seinfeld, he would be just making perfectly observed. Jokes about the pews or something. Yeah, exactly. Like any you could just point to any object in the room at the funeral. You could be at the funeral of a president of the united states and he would be like what's the deal with morning dress sure striped pants you know he recently gave an interview where he said that he considers himself to be autistic
Starting point is 01:17:18 he said if it's if it's a spectrum he goes i'm definitely on it i didn't so that's maybe where all that comes from right you can I feel like you can see that. And I don't mean to say that he's a bad person when I say this. But when you watch the show, you can see – I feel like – and this is me projecting on a heavily edited thing that I've only watched a total of whatever there's been, 10 hours of, right? Okay. But I feel like he's just completely disinterested in other human beings. Like not incapable of conversing with them or unpleasant or rude or whatever, but just sort of like, eh, don't care about that.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Care about making perfect jokes. Well, that's how I felt about a lot of late night talk show hosts, right? Yeah. They have the perfect personality to be stand-up comics, but not to be interviewers. Yeah, sure. That's fair. And there's so many times I watch those shows, I don't anymore, but I always want to just go scream, hey, why don't you ask a question you actually want to know the answer to?
Starting point is 01:18:15 That would be, what a novel idea to do on a fucking talk show, is you actually ask a question you want someone to answer that you would like to hear the answer to, because you're interested. That's what is missing on late night talk shows. Yeah. I'd love to see it. But I also want to hear about, you know, who's a real prankster on the set. How much of the movie was improv.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Oh, boy. I need to know that. Yeah. Sure. Because that makes a movie more enjoyable knowing what's improv. How did your recent vacation go? What's the worst job you've ever had? Sure. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:48 You know what? Let's play on iPads. Let's play around on some iPads. It is genuinely a delight. It's genuinely delightful to me to just watch George Wallace and Jerry Seinfeld just do bits at each other for 20 minutes.
Starting point is 01:19:10 How much of this is improv? Great. How much of what you guys are doing right now? Did you not get the size? This has actually been on script, but we're going to do another take for us. We're going to go off book a little bit. Yeah, you know we try. First of all, we get our coverage.
Starting point is 01:19:24 I'm going to change up that Jack Off Glove thing a little bit. Yeah, you know, we try. First of all, we get our coverage. I'm going to change up that jack-off-glove thing a little bit. Right. Yeah. Well, that's so funny you said that, Jordan, because people are constantly – it was one of the banes of my talking to people after shows. They always want to know how much you're improv-ing. Sure. And I'm like, what the difference is it, right? And it's exactly what you just said.
Starting point is 01:19:40 How much of it is it? I enjoy the movie more than what it's been anymore. Right. I didn't think I liked that joke But if I knew that they Made it up on this Now I like it Yes Anyway that's very
Starting point is 01:19:49 That's why that really struck That's the year That's funny to me Anyway I love that Comedians in Cars getting coffee Enjoy it every time Okay
Starting point is 01:19:57 Every time I enjoy it Did you see the movie He made called Comedian I did see the movie He made called Comedian I thought that was excellent Excellent Excellent I saw it Done a dozen times I would enjoy Watching you made called Comedian? I did see the movie you made called Comedian and I thought that was excellent. Excellent. Excellent.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I saw it done a dozen times. I would enjoy watching like a Colin Quinn or a Chris Rock talk about anything. Yeah, yeah. Pretty much. I can't think of a topic
Starting point is 01:20:18 that I wouldn't enjoy hearing one of those two people talk about. Colin Quinn did the director's... What do they call it? The commentary track? The commentary track. He did it with Jerry on The Comedian.
Starting point is 01:20:29 What did he have to say? He had a lot of funny things to say. He's a funny man. He's a funny guy. I like him. He's a very funny guy. Was not the best choice for Weekend Update. No.
Starting point is 01:20:39 But a really, really funny guy. Well, yeah. You know, it seemed like he was struggling to read the words and say them at the same time. That's true. So, like, that's not his skill. His skill is to just talk extemporaneously maybe. But, yeah, kind of really – it was almost Al Sharpton-ish sometimes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Look. Done. We've done our time here. Listen to Jimmy's program, The Jimmy Dore Show. Go to the bookstore. Buy a copy of Jimmy's book. Your country's just not that into you. Yes. How many times does Jimmy Dore write a book? This is the first time.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Yeah. So you may never have another opportunity like this again if sales continue as they have been. That's not true. Best-selling book. Thank you. What best-seller list did you make? It was number two in political humor books on Amazon. Hey. Pretty good.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Yeah. Thank you very much. I was very proud. After Rush Limbaugh's A Big Fat Idiot, which has been number one for 15 years now. Because actually Adam Carolla's book was number one. Oh. Well, I get it. He's got a big listenership.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Sure. Yeah. People like Adam Carolla. He's funny. Sure. Funny guy. He's very nice to me. He's been very nice to us, too. Yeah. Sure. Been very nice to me. He got me on Jimmy's funny. Sure. Funny guy. He's very nice to me. He's been very nice to us, too.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Yeah. Sure. Been very nice to me. He got me on Jimmy Kimmel. Sure. So, you know, I love that guy. Yeah. Good work.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Good work, Adam Carolla, in those areas and many other areas. You know, his politics aren't always thought out. That's a good way of characterizing it, I think. Yes. Decent guy, sometimes ill-considered. Yeah, okay, there we go. Great show. Jordan Jesse Go, our producer Brian Fernandez, our theme music, Love You by The Free Design,
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Starting point is 01:22:48 Maximumfun.reddit.com. That's been very lively. Tons of fun. We're in 50, 75 discussion topics. Get over there to the Reddit. To who? A lot of fun over there. CEO of Reddit recently quit after a dispute about their new office's lease.
Starting point is 01:23:03 What? Really? That sounds fun. Reddit is a well-oiled machine. Well-oiled machine. That sounds like a silly reason to quit. Well, you know, I mean, he thought about it. He decided that Reddit possibly harboring child pornographers was okay. But this office lease thing.
Starting point is 01:23:23 And what about all those cars being indiscriminately fucked by dragons? He was cool with the cars getting fucked by dragons subreddit. But not comfortable with. Did you see that somebody posted that there's a new Reddit for cars fucking dragons? Oh, that's great. Yeah. Finally. Turnabout's fair play.
Starting point is 01:23:43 That's what I say. Yeah. Time for the dragon to get his. Anyway, thanks everybody for listening. We'll talk to you next week on Jordan, Jessica, and Go. Maximumfun.org. Comedy and culture. Artist owned.
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