Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Ep. 374: Birthday Ape with Bill Corbett

Episode Date: April 27, 2015

Comedian and writer Bill Corbett joins Jordan and Jesse for a discussion of Jordan's experience in a new Fatburger with a bar, the new Rifftrax live events, and prestige TV. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Give a little time for the child within you, don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Goh, I'm Jesse Thorne, the voice of the millennial generation. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Well, Jordan, how are you today, sir? I'm doing good. Uh, I had a couple of drinks before we started at the Fatburger that has a bar. Had a couple of drinks before we started at the Fatburger that has a bar. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:00:32 As they say on The Unbreakable, Kimmy Schmidt, stop the presses. My panini can wait. It's my favorite joke in history now. Oh, man. That is great. I told my wife that I would divorce her for whoever wrote that joke if I ever came to find out and had the opportunity to marry them. Well, good. She's on notice then. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:52 You don't want to blindside her with things like that. No. I want to give her a heads up that she's good but not good enough. That her days are numbered. Good. Very good but not as good as she could be. Sure. I don't want her to think that she is a stand-up triple. But a home run is the person who wrote the joke, Stop the Presses by Panini Kenway.
Starting point is 00:01:15 What if you're prepared to go all the way if it's a man? Yeah. Gay marriage is totally legal now. Yeah, that's true. I'll SAD for a joke like that. For a joke like that, Jordan, in a heartbeat, I would SAD. You know, that's reasonable. And, you know, whether I would, you know, where would I draw the line?
Starting point is 00:01:35 That's an interesting question that you didn't exactly ask. I would say I would SAD and do hand stuff. Yeah. But not full penetration. You won't – is that – are you referring to being penetrated or penetrating? Either way. I wouldn't do either one of those. I wouldn't do either one because it's not – it doesn't appeal to me at all.
Starting point is 00:02:03 But that joke is really great. Sure. So if it turns out that it was Robert Carlock or whoever that wrote that joke and not Alison Silverman or I only know the names of a few writers on this show, then I would say, you know, if you want to get married and you want to fool around, fool around some. And fooling around doesn't have to be everything, but different couples have different kinds of intimacy. Sure. He and I would have the intimacy of, he wrote the joke that I laughed at the most ever. And then he gets his de-essed.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yeah, exactly. And he'll probably, his ball and taint region would receive some nice bonus beard stimulation. I feel like we need to explain to our guest, who, by the way, is Bill Corbett, one of the stars of Riff Trax and, of course, one of the stars of Mystery Science Theater 3000. Of course, a television and broadcast writer of some renown, a film writer of some renown, a comic book author recently. Bill, just so you know. Yes. Welcome to the show, first of all. Thanks, guys. Just so you know, we will say suck a dick on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I'm so relieved. Is that what S-A-D means? Yeah, that's what S-A-D means. But I thought it would be more fun to say S-A-D. It's more now, it's more hip, it's more internet-y. It has a certain bouncy quality. Sure, it denotes marriage a little more, too. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Because you don't want to let the kids know what you and the wife are getting up to. Right, or you and the husband. Sure, or you and the husband. Sure. Or you and the husband. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty crucial to this conversation. So, you know, you say, hey, honey, S my D. And she'll say, as long as you E my B.
Starting point is 00:03:56 B? Box. Oh. Okay. I call vaginas boxes. Gotcha. That seems very 1950s to me. This is fun.
Starting point is 00:04:05 This is the kind of fun we have on this show. I'm in the middle of it, and I like it. But as I was saying, whenever I drive here, I take Wilshire. Right. If you're local. Look, Wilshire's a legendary, not even a street, a boulevard. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It stretches from one end of Los Angeles to the other. It's one of the great urban, well, boulevards. Sure. It's not effing around. I would let it eff my D. Because of its majesty. Sure. And its convenience.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I call it W Boulevard, though, out of respect. Sure. So I take Wilshire down here. And sometimes when I'm early, I'll stop somewhere. I'll stop and have a coffee. Right. Have an iced tea. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Maybe a snack. Snapple. Having a snapple. Maybe a Fruitopia. Wow, if you can get your hands on one. Oh, yeah. There's a little liquor store. They've got some in the back. Right next to hands on one. Oh, yeah. There's a little liquor store. They've got some in the back.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Right next to the Crystal Pepsi. Oh, yeah. You want discontinued beverage? Come with me. The land of extinct beverages. I like to imagine that this guy, it's not that he has a stash of them. It's he's got a couple cases worth of bottles, and he's making them in the back and refilling the bottles. So there's a deposit on the bottle.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Sure. Because the bottle's got the branding. That's what's central. He tried selling them with handmade branding, but it didn't work out. So you think maybe when I lay down my $35 for what I think is a vintage Fruitopia, I'm just getting a refilled Fruitopia bottle that has Arizona iced tea in it. No, no, he's making Fruitopia in the back. Oh, okay. Just a little water and food coloring and sugar.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah. And that's the package. I hear the stills explode, though. A lot of Fruitopia fires. Well, the real thing you got to do is keep it away from Boss Hogg. Yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And the revenuers. Perfect. Well, the real thing you got to do is keep it away from Boss Hogg. Yes. Right. And the revenuers. Okay. So you're driving down legendarily Potholed Boulevard. Yes. Wilshire. And I have been meaning to stop because there is a Fatburger that has alcohol. Now, Fatburger is also a local chain. Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Mostly in Southern California. I think there are some other places. Yeah. It's, you know, I think West Coast. It's famous for putting an egg on your burger. Is that right? I don't know. I think it's famous for being called Fatburger.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Okay. Mostly that. Yeah. I remember in college or something like that, someone telling oh you gotta have a fat burger and in contrast to when somebody says you gotta have an in-and-out burger and then you eat it you're like oh i get this this is really good i ate a fat burger and i was like this is like a mcdonald's burger this sucks here's the thing that's i also i feel about that way I don't like Fatburger I think there are some Fatburger partisans
Starting point is 00:07:07 and if they want to eat there I'm happy to accompany them I wish them the best I do not You hope they die They can S my D quite thoroughly Bill only eats at Five Guys Oh okay
Starting point is 00:07:20 I only eat Five Guys They can S your D as long as they crack an egg on it. Right, right. As long as there's a fried egg on top. I have no interest in going to Fatburger unless someone else, because there are people who feel passionately about it. Sure. Snoop Doggy Dog, I believe, is a Fatburger partisan. There you go.
Starting point is 00:07:40 That may also be a lie that I just told, but I think it's true. I don't get it. They're not, like you say, they're basically parties. They're nothing special. Yeah, right, exactly. There's another thing that I can't remember the name of near here that always has a huge line out of it. And when I used to live in this neighborhood, my wife and I, early in our moving to Los Angeles, went to it. And they're famous for putting chili on a burger.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Oh, sure. And I went there and I ate it, and it was worse than a Burger King. I was like, what is – why have people been – what is this line outside for? This is – yeah. Is this Tom's? No, that doesn't sound right. Yeah. Not Tom's.
Starting point is 00:08:19 But anyway, continue. Anyway, don't care about Fatburger, but for some reason it's a pilot project or something like that where there's a Fatburger on Wiltshire that has booze at it. And every time I drive by it, I feel like I get wide-eyed like an owl looking at this Fatburger that has a bar at it, and I don't know why. I guess it's the weird novelty of being able to have a drink in a place you wouldn't normally have a drink. With a shitty burger. Yeah, with a terrible burger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:52 A C-burger. B-. C+. I'm going to go C+. C- seems about right. I think that's fair. I think C- is fair. It'd be like, yeah, if there was a laundromat where you could smoke pot.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Right. I don't necessarily want to do that at a laundromat, but because they're letting me, I want to. So I finally did it. Beer and wine? And liquor. Wow. Full bar. Full bar.
Starting point is 00:09:17 They will make you a mixed drink? Premium brands. At the Fatburger? You could get Grey Goose. You can get top shelf stuff? Yes. But you have to have an egg in your Grey Goose. Yes, it's
Starting point is 00:09:27 mandatory egg in every drink. Yeah, and you have to put your hands behind your back and take the shot out of a bowl of chili. Do they muddle anything at the Fatburger? I just had a vodka and soda. Right. Which is what you want when you go to a Fatburger. Right. I bet you they would muddle something.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Really? Yeah. Now, I would like to go to a Fatburger that is the one kind of bar which I like as a non-drinker. I like the kind of bar where- The bartender pours gummy bears in your mouth. Yeah. A G-Bar. Yeah. A GBB.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I like a bar. I like a mixology bar, like the kind where they wear sleeve garters and they get super complicated because it is the only bar that you can go to as a non-drinker and you can go up and you can, if you have the right attitude, you can go to them and just say, hey, I don't drink. Mix some shit up for me. Yeah. And they'll go. Mix some shit up for me. And they'll go. And they're excited about it. They're like, what do you want? Do you want something sour?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Do you want da-da-da-da-da? And I'm like, surprise me. And they go, whip-whip-whip-whip-whip, muddle some shit. There's no muddling. I like a muddled thing. Sure. There's no muddling. If I go to the liquor store, there's plenty of non-alcoholic beverage choices, but none of them involve muddling.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah. So what have you gotten in this? Because I'm a non-drinker, too, over a couple of years, and this is an issue for me. Yeah. Do I just need to check out, look for sleeve garters, and if they're not there, just walk out the door? That's what you need. If it doesn't have a white-tiled floor or mahogany boots. Art Deco bar furnishings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:03 You want something where they're really making a point out of their ingredients. Yeah. You know what I mean? The artisanal bitters. Yeah. Mixed with- You don't just want the place that's famous for making a great Manhattan. You want something where they're famous for making something out of like licorice root.
Starting point is 00:11:25 You want the somebody. Yeah. The Jimmy or the Stanley or something like that. It's usually the and a guy's name typically. Yeah. Or like the silver fox. Right. Can you make me a virgin silver fox?
Starting point is 00:11:42 Sure. A virgin silver fox. Oh. He lived all that time and he never got laid. Have either of you thought about doing home muddling? I've tried it. It usually winds up some gross glop of some sort. But I don't really have a facility for mixology.
Starting point is 00:12:01 You know, you were recently on the Let's Drink About It podcast with our friends Chris and Ben. Sure. And Ben used to own, used to co-own a bitters company called Hella Bitter. And it was great, great product, had a great label with Ben doing what we in the Bay Area call a fizz face. And they made a variety of bitters other than Angostura bitters, which are the main kind that you get, which is like a root or something. I can't remember exactly or an herb.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And so a citrus bitter is great, not just in a seltzer, which is a great place to put a dash of bitters, but also I found that citrus bitters were a really nice complement to Dr. Pepper. I bet. Really improved Dr. Pepper. Yeah, I mean, well, the South has all their famous lemon and lime Dr. Peppers. It seems like this is your high-end version of that. There you go. It makes it fragrant and gives it a flavor depth. But yeah, I think just adding some bitters, like my backup order at a bar, if it's not
Starting point is 00:13:13 the kind where they're muddling things, I will just ask them to give me club soda and bitters. This did not disappoint. Drinking at a Fatburger was really fun. I got deep- fried green beans. Okay. Just noming on those. Having my vodka and soda.
Starting point is 00:13:30 It was great. Did you just have the one drink? I had a drink and a half. A half? Yeah. I ordered a second drink, and then I was self-conscious that I would be too drunk for the podcast. A little disappointed. So I excused myself.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's fair. You had a base of A little disappointed. So I excused myself. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's fair. You had a base of fried green beans there. I did, yeah, yeah. What's the atmosphere like? Yeah, I mean, I think- The best.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Just the best. Yeah, a lot of- You've never been happier. A lot of Wall Street types. No, it's a lot of dudes watching the game. They're for the game. And that is the one and only Fatburger doing that? I think so.
Starting point is 00:14:09 If there's another one, I'm curious. Is it bar-like or Fatburger-like? So it's divided up into two sections. One section, Fatburger. Or is it some stitched together freak? Yes, it's a Frankenstein of bar and casual eatery. Because there's not like table service at a Fatburger. It's like a walk up to the counter.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Right. It's half and half. Yes, yeah. If you want just the Fatburger experience, you got it. But if you enter through a little archway, you're in a hip-happening sports bar with a lot of winners. Wow. What sports bar isn't hip, Jordan? Sure.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And full of winners. Yeah. Both those things are true of every sports bar. They are hip and full of winners. That sounds like a fun experience. It was a lot of fun. I like the way you put it as a pilot project. You gave it a dignity I think they would probably appreciate.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Sure, yeah. Were there any drink specials? Oh, I didn't notice. I should have. I would love it if they had like Fatburger's signature cocktails. What? The Lil' Chubby. Daddy's Gunt. Things like that.
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Starting point is 00:16:17 Oh my goodness. The carpet has an Instagram. Check out Rendered now at MaximumFun.org or wherever you like to listen to podcasts. It's Jordan, Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne of Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective. Love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, How are riff tracks going? They are going well. We are doing four live shows this year that are broadcast through Fathom Events in the movie theaters. Oh, this is like, that is, if I'm remembering correctly, it's a Prairie Home Companion. The opera. The Metropolitan Opera.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah. The Royal Shakespeare Company. Yeah. And riff tracks. Well, yeah. And Riff Trax. Well, yeah. And they have this drum competition, too. That is, it's like... Like a drum line thing?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah. Whoops. That is exactly what it is. And that was pretty popular, I think, for a while. And I think Glenn Beck, for a while, was doing... He was doing, like, town halls. Weird plays and stuff. Plays?
Starting point is 00:17:47 Well, he was doing like this cornball thing about Christmas, like his mama's Christmas shoes or something. Okay. Or maybe I'm mixing that up with the song. Well, I mean, there is a war on Christmas. Oh, yeah. I mean, we're in kind of the middle of the year now, so it's latent. But it's still raging. It is ongoing.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. Yeah, and vicious. Most wars slow down when the weather gets cold because it's hard to get supplies to the front. Right, right. But the war on Christmas actually peaks then. Sure. It's a bit of counter-programming. But yeah, it's mostly us and the Metropolitan Opera.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I like to attend these regularly. Oh, thank you. And I've been to- The Met. Oh, yeah, The Met. Oh, no, I'm talking about Glenn Beck's town halls. Oh, gotcha. Anyways, isn't it weird we... Isn't it weird we still haven't seen that birth certificate,
Starting point is 00:18:32 guys? I mean, really. It's messing with my head. Do you guys feel like Glenn Beck, at his heart, is a song and dance man? Oh, yeah. I do. Like Mandy Patinkin. You know, I have the weirdest admiration, like, just that little percentage for his kind of skills, for his medicine man skills. He's like a showman.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, exactly right. He cries. He does puppets. He does. He's like Ross Perot. He would like eat a live squirrel for you if you asked him. I'll pay you. Do it.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Remember in like 1996 or whatever the last time, by that point, Ross Perot was like, he had gone from like charts to just like, yeah, put on a little puppet show for me. Show you about the deficit. Sure. And he was sort of slipping into slight dementia too at the same time. It was great. He's like, now, let's talk about rockets. Got one right here. It's tiny.
Starting point is 00:19:21 You're like, this is a presidential debate, Ross Perot. Yeah. That's how I feel about it. I brought some colored paper clips. I'm going to make them into figures. This is the deficit. It's easier to put a hat on a dog if you affix a strap. What? I enjoy that he's putting on a show and I like that
Starting point is 00:19:37 he's friends with our friend Andrew W.K. and has Andrew W.K. on, I think, regularly. Glenn Beck has Andrew W.K. on? Yeah, well, because Andrew W.K.'s a showman. That is hilarious. Andrew W.K. on, I think, regularly. Oh, that's right. Glenn Beck has Andrew W.K. on? Yeah, well, because Andrew W.K. is a showman. That is hilarious. Andrew W.K. is a heartfelt showman, just like Glenn Beck. Andrew is writing some really great columns for the Village Voice these days. Yeah, he's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:19:55 He really is. Yeah, that guy's got the heart of a lion. Anyway, sorry, Glenn Beck aside, you've been attending North Drag Street. I've been to these, and I've been to a lot of nerd shit in my day yeah and i've never had that feeling of community that people talk about when they go to a you know a comic-con or a ren fair or something like that i like going to these things but it always feels like i'm a little bit on the outside and but when i'm at one of these rift tracks things i'm like these are my people well you you leave the Boba Fett costume at home. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yes, exactly. And I put on my slightly classier Abominable Snowman costume. The one from the Rankin-Bass. Oh, yeah. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Classic. Yeah. My son Simon hates that Abominable Snowman.
Starting point is 00:20:41 It's scary. It's legit scary. I've been talking to him about how that snowman becomes their friend since December 10th. He's not buying it, huh? He has deep ambivalences about it. Sure. Deep. He says, Daddy, that monster from the reindeer movie, he's their friend.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And I'm like, yeah. And he's like, yeah, that's what I thought. What happens after the cameras stop rolling? He seems like he has problems. So, yeah, anyways, those Rift Rack Live shows are so much fun. Well, thank you, Jordan. They're just a blast. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:21:21 What are you doing this year? We are doing Tommy Wiseau's The Room, finally. Oh, wow. That's a lot of pressure. Well, you know. A lot of expectations. In some ways, yeah, because it really doesn't need our jabbering to make it funny. You can just go, look at this.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Look at that guy. Listen to that. Yeah, we're doing that. And we are doing Sharknado 2. I was telling Jordan earlier I feel a little ambivalent about that one because it's sort of a joke in itself. Yeah, yeah. You know, we from time to time will do a Sharknado goof on at midnight. And I think everyone's like, yeah, I mean, this is fun to laugh at.
Starting point is 00:22:02 But also we're playing right into their claws. Oh, yes. Their grubby, low right into their claws. Oh, yes. Their grubby, low-budget claws. Right, right. So, yeah, anyways. But, you know, it's fun. And we're doing something called Miami Connection. You guys ever heard of this? And it's basically this weird thing about a school of taekwondo slash rock and roll band and how they fight the rival band slash martial arts group.
Starting point is 00:22:31 What are the other ones? Do jujitsu? Yeah, something not as American as taekwondo. Sure, yeah. Not a classic. Yeah. Classic American fighting style. That is a good mall martial art.
Starting point is 00:22:44 You do your taekwondo, you get an Orange Julius. That's right. And you pray to Jesus. And you go home and do a little bit of homework. Yeah. I want to talk to you about the deficit. I want to talk to you about Taekwondo. Watch me bust this brick with my head.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I believe he could do it. I bet he could too. I'm 73 years old. Got rich in the oil industry. Know how to run a business. No taekwondo. I remember my mom voting for Ross Perot, and I'm wondering if I should be embarrassed about that. I voted for Ross Perot in the sixth grade election.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Oh, nice. Yeah. My wife voted for Jesse Ventura when she was younger in the Minnesota governor election. Oh, wow. I intend to vote for him in the Minnesota governor election when I'm older. I'm voting for him in the best former cast member of Predator competition. Oh, yeah. That's a pretty tight competition.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Now, something that I really liked when I saw you guys do Starship Troopers, which it was amazing that they let you guys do that. Although I guess if you pony up the money, they'll just let you do it. That was sort of the theory there. Yeah. Sure. People like to be paid. What are those negotiations like? Do you have to give the lawyers at Riff Trax Incorporated a list of 12 movies and they
Starting point is 00:24:00 just go see who hasn't heard of Riff Trax and thus gives you an appropriately low price? It's been a weird sort of approach, avoid, you know, thing to the studios. And mostly they don't want us to do their stuff. Right. Because there's kind of nothing in it for them. For the most part, we can't give them enough money to make it worth anybody's while. I mean, to be fair, they're going to get $10,000. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You know. Yeah. Ten.. $10. In that zone. $10. In that zone. But yeah, I mean, and they're worried about their relationships with people who are in the movie. Like, it's really-
Starting point is 00:24:35 You don't want to upset Casper Van Dien. Right. Right. He will crush you, man. I mean, it's just rife with paranoia and there are, as you know, just battalions of lawyers in between. But every now and then someone just sort of gets through the cracks. And I think now that we have a relationship with Sony, they're kind of clearing out some of their old catalog. Oh, it doesn't hurt.
Starting point is 00:24:53 We made a little bank. So what the hell, you know? Casper Van Dien can't hurt us anymore. And you guys can just find out what studio you have a good relationship with. You tap into their mainframe. You just type in BMX and see what comes back. I'm legit scared of BMX. I hear the next Spider-Man movie is going straight to Riff Trax.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, right, right. Oh, we're just going to let you make fun of it. That's how they keep that option on the Spider-Man property. Right, yeah, you just make a shitty one, let Riff Trax make fun of it, and then he can't be in The Avengers. Starship Troopers was weird because we had a lot of people coming out of the woodwork and saying, you know what? It is a great movie. People will tell you that about Starship Troopers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Starship Troopers and Lake Placid. Two movies people will insist are. Well, it is one of those things where, yeah, there are some funny bits in it. Like, there are intended to be funny. I think that is a different thing than funny. But mostly, no. It's kind of just ham-handed Nazi imagery. And it's like, it's really subtle, though.
Starting point is 00:25:57 You know, like, because they become the totalitarians at the end. It is not subtle in the movies. They are jackbooted. I feel like I picked up on that when I was 13 seeing the movie. Right. So it was not subtle. Yeah. Neil Patrick Harris as the, you know, the commandant.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Right. As the psychic Nazi. Right. The psychic bug-hating Nazi. I saw Starship Troopers. This is a very apt context in which I saw Starship Troopers backstage at the San Francisco Opera. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:26:31 How did that happen? In high school, I worked as an apprentice to the stage electrician of the War Memorial Performing Arts Center in San Francisco, which is the Herbst Theater, the symphony, and the opera. Yeah. And so I would hang out backstage and just help out the techs with whatever they needed. I was getting paid my $8 an hour, you know, from the city. It was like a teen jobs program.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And I had the sweetest gig of them all because I got to hang out in these weird places with these weird... And the backstage at the opera is a trip because you got a couple different kind of people number one you got just straight union guys who are just union guys and they're just want a union gig they got a union right but mostly it's either like people who are super into the opera and that's why they do it so that's like us 30 percent of the people that work backstage at the opera are super into opera. That is a heady
Starting point is 00:27:27 mix. It is. Like longshoremen and opera fans. Then there's this other group of people who are like you know, mercenary stage technicians and they work at the opera for the money and then they do something else the rest of the year. Like there was a dude who worked at the opera with me
Starting point is 00:27:43 and his job was he worked at the opera during the opera season which is like three months a year, four months a year, something like that. And he worked at March Madness as a parabolic microphone operator. Every year, he made $50,000 as a parabolic microphone operator because there's only like four people in that union and he got overtime for all of the extra games. I just want to hear you say parabolic again. No, just the guy that points the mic at the guy who's going, uh, at any given moment. And then the rest of the year, he just lived on a ranch in Calistoga or something. Wow. And that man was Casper Van D. He's like, someday I'm going to be in a bug movie. Ah, you're crazy, old man.
Starting point is 00:28:31 You'll never be in a bug movie. But, you know, most of this- As long as I got my parabolic, I'm going to- Most of the stage people, they would just sit in the back and watch Starship Troopers. So, like, Carmen would be going- Wow. And all this- There would be, like, 20 people huddled in the stage electrician's room watching on one of those TV-VCR combos Starship Troopers.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Starship Hooters they called it. Well, this is something I wanted to bring up. Starship Troopers was a very important pre-internet movie because it had a lot of jugs in it. Yeah. Right. And very exciting for a 13-year-old. When the jugs come up, or the, I'm sorry, the yabos. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:12 A little dignity. I don't want to raise the ire of Jezebel.com, the yabos. The yabos. You guys cut away from that and cut to some sort of birthday ape. Yeah. Am I saying, is birthday ape correct? I think it's as good as anything. A party, you know, apogram, gorillagram.
Starting point is 00:29:33 You can call it what you want. I'm cool with that. Yeah, it was weird. We were sort of beholden to keep it PG, at least for that show. And we no longer are. We're going to show full vaginas in our next show. Even though they're not in the movie. You guys are going to show your vaginas?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Usually you don't even show your faces. It is time to show the world what we got going there. But yeah, we had to find some creative way. And I don't know the way we came up with it, particularly creative. It was fairly annoying to the people who wanted to see the yabbos. Yeah, yeah. You mentioned that you got some blowback because you cut to the ape. Yeah, we had.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah. The very corny joke was that just at the moment of anticipated nudity, you know, somebody sent a gorillagram on stage to us. So we sort of blocked it with balloons and with low camera angles. But, yeah, there were a couple of guys like, what the fuck, man? That's one of the things they come to Starship Troopers for is the yabos, mister. Just Starship Troopers purists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And why were you making fun of it the whole time? Right. What's going on? There is something to be said for a dumb movie where the nudity is, as I remember, I mean, look, I was 17 when i 16 when i saw the movie but there's like gleeful nudity in a dumb movie appeals to me like my overall feeling is like i don't know if i want to like be titillated there's things that are specifically
Starting point is 00:31:01 for titillation like so maybe it should be important. But if it's excessive and gleeful, it's kind of fun. I think you're onto something. It actually is like it's a co-ed shower scene where all the soldiers are. In the future. And they're just giving each other shit and nobody's really making a big deal of it. And I think that is a utopian vision of a lot of Starship Troopers fans. Free yabos in the course of daily duties. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And it will all be foxy. Yeah. No non-foxy people. Yeah. Carrie Russell only. Allowed in the yabo room. Is that who, Carrie Russell, is she? Was that her?
Starting point is 00:31:35 No. Who am I thinking of? Anyway. Oh my goodness. Russell Peters. Yes. Russell Peters. Superstar Canadian comedian, Russell Peters. Fantastic breasts Russell Peters. Superstar Canadian comedian Russell Peters.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Fantastic breasts. They're nice. So, yeah. So you guys are doing The Room, which has less appealing nudity. Oh, it has the worst nudity ever, I think. And it's only about four minutes into the movie. Tommy Wiseau and his bride in the movie
Starting point is 00:32:06 retire upstairs and they actually light all the candles. It just looks like Skinamax standard softcore stuff. And it's pretty bad. It's pretty corny, bad sex scene. But then he gets out of bed and you see his bare
Starting point is 00:32:23 hiney. Sure. And it's a little shocking that early it's a shocking sight anytime yeah it looks like a piece of beef jerky walking around like why did you see you I guess the first time I saw it I felt two ways like I wanting to laugh at this man's body and then
Starting point is 00:32:40 being worried that he had been in a war and that's why he was like that like that's why he was he was so malformed was that maybe he had stepped on a landmine. Yeah, it could be. Yeah. It might just be that he was a medieval witch. Sure, yeah. And they burnt him.
Starting point is 00:32:56 He survived the burning. Thanks to being a witch. Put a hex on everyone. Cursed to live forever. Sure. Made a lot of money off it, though. Yeah, yeah. Produced movies.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I've never seen The Room. I don't a lot of money off it, though. Yeah, yeah. To produce movies. I've never seen The Room. I don't think I want to watch it, though. No? I think you should. If you see it in a theater where people are doing the jokes, or if you see it with riff tracks, that's a fun way to do it. I imagine watching it alone at home or just with one or two people is probably a pretty You'd be frightened.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You would be like your son with the abominable snowman. But if it's a party with people who get it, you know? I like good movies. Oh, okay. I don't want to see bad movies. All right. Well, Noah Baumbach's got a new one. But I do enjoy.
Starting point is 00:33:40 He does, and it's lovely. Very meditative. It's funny and a meditation on growing older. Anyways, continue. Do you see his beef jerky ass? Oh, fucking Noah Baumbach. His pockmark. He always puts his butt in his movies.
Starting point is 00:33:53 It's weird because he's not an actor. It's like Hitchcock, a butt will be walking by. Noah Baumbach. You know, in While We're Young, which is his new movie, I think. I haven't seen it. But I did see a scene where it's Ben Stiller, and he's taking off his clothes. And Ben Stiller's in really good shape. He really is. He's 50-ish now, but he looks very good.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And he turns around, and it's Noah Bombak's butt. Yeah. And you could tell because of the tattoo, I'm Baumbach. Yeah. Not Ben Stiller. It's a very specific tattoo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And it's funny, like you get, you understand how he got the reputation, he got his classic nickname, Noah Baumbach. Yes, right. Because it's a tight,
Starting point is 00:34:42 it's a tight natural butt. It is basically a long carn of an art project, an NEA art project, to reduce eventually his whole movie-making career to shots of his own ass. He called his agent. He's like, I've got a script.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It's called Kicking and Screaming. I think in 15 years, 20 years, I might be able to show my butt on screen. Hey, agent, I got to squid in the whale. It's great. It's going to be one of the great roles for Jeff Daniels. Oh, man. Oh, and by the way, I think in 12 years, I'm going to be able to show my butt.
Starting point is 00:35:21 This is the second stepping stone I need. Countdown to butt showing. Yeah. That's fun. Okay, so what's the fourth? I think you've only listed three movies. Yeah, the fourth is something called Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny. Oh, I think we talked about Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny when you were on Bullseye.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah. It's like a promotional movie for a theme park. Yeah, exactly right. It is something for a long dead Disney knockoff called Pirate's World in Florida. And yeah, I think somebody just got like a camcorder and decided to make a movie at some point. And the premise is that Santa is stranded
Starting point is 00:35:58 on a beach in Florida and he can't get out. And they let the guy improv it too. And he's just like 15 minute monologue about how he's so hot and he can't get anywhere without my reindeer. And then these kids come up, try to help him. And he starts telling them a story of Thumbelina, which was some preexisting bad movie they had that took place in Pirate's World. So that's sort of the frame around it. Then you cut back to Santa.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I know I'm giving the end of the movie away. Whoa, yes. Yes. Okay, spoiler alert for Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny. Turn down your dials if you don't want to know the end. Skip to 10 minutes ahead. He finishes the story of Thumbelina and he comes back and basically the Ice Cream Bunny of the title finally shows up.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And it's just this guy in a horrifying rabbit costume who drives this European-style fire truck through Pirate's World with this, like, and it just sounds like, you know, Berlin is being bombed on all sides, picks up Santa, and that's it. And that's your movie. Are you, throughout this movie,
Starting point is 00:37:02 encouraged to visit Pirate World? No, they don't really sell the Pirate World either. It's just like something that we, something they did. And to make it even more complicated, the Thumbelina story has within itself like sort of a story within a story. Basically, it's a girl or a young
Starting point is 00:37:18 woman looking at a diorama of Thumbelina and then the story being told over the most, the harshest PA system. And then Thumbelina and then, and the story being told over the most, uh, the harshest PA system and then Thumbelina. And then every now and then you cut to her playing Thumbelina, you know, it's so through the looking glass.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I guess it was like layers and layers. I like that. They built the movie around another movie they had lying around. Yeah. What I did with my college thesis. I just had this paper from another class I took. So then you had – it started out with a story of Santa stranded on a beach and talking about diasporas.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I was an American studies major. You can do whatever the fuck you want. It's the classic essay structure. Santa on a beach. As long as you say diasporas. There's a mystery science episode that's kind of like that. The Merlin Shop of Mystical Wonders. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:09 That was great. They clearly just had two weird TV movies and decided to bridge it with a wizard story. Well, yeah. And then there was a bridge around that, too, which was Ernest Borgnine in his doted years. Oh, right. The bridge. Right. Sitting on a couch
Starting point is 00:38:25 It was double buffered. Yeah, it was double buffered. Arguably triple buffered. Sure. But Ernest Borgnine sitting with this enormous stomach and it was shot in the most unflattering angle. Sort of reading the Merlin stories to his grandchild. How a woman's butt
Starting point is 00:38:42 is shot in a Fast and Furious movie. So is the angle on Ernest Bororden 9's gunt in this episode. Somebody really loved that thing. Yeah, yeah. Like, ooh, yeah, more gunt. Just travel up, guys. Am I misusing gunt? I don't know what a gunt is.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah. I know the slogan, gotta get a gunt. But you don't know what it's advertising. It is an amazingly accurate and horrifying word, but it really- It has a snap to it that I like. So if I'm misusing it, I'm sorry. Is it the same as a taint? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:13 No, no. It's a little north of that. Yeah. North into the front. Okay. It's like a front taint. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 It is a port- Not really a portmanteau, but it is like kind of gut and the C word put together. So it's basically the fat deposit over that area. Oh, cool. Charming, huh? Cool. It is cool. God bless you.
Starting point is 00:39:33 It's very cool. So yeah, guys, it's Borden and I talking about Merlin, who then talks about- He talks about this- A monkey? Cursed toy monkey. A cursed monkey. He talks about this cursed toy monkey. But then they found some TV movie from the late 70s or early 80s that featured that monkey.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Sure. They stitched it together. Yeah, it was real. And a dog dies in it. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Doesn't the guy breathe fire on a cat? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I mean, there are some horrible deaths. And the little kid is like, Grandpa, stop i'm sorry timmy guys i don't want to get all big shot in hollywood with you guys but uh i share an accountant with the laterness board really yeah let's just say that in his later years uh he did cruises with Ed Asner. He did cruises. The Monsters of Gunn tour. And I was talking. You want to see Gunn's? Oh, my God. We've got Gunn's, Gunn's, Gunn's.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Here you go. I was sitting in my accountant's office one day and he said, oh, you guys did a cruise. And I said, yes. And he said, my wife and I just went on a cruise. And I said, really? What kind of cruise was it? And he said, well, one of our clients does a theater cruise, Ernest Borgnine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Wow. So what do they actually do on the cruise? Is he like – It's like a theater. They have a production of – Does he do monologues, Blanche DuBois? They have a production of, yes, maybe a Russian play, maybe. Wow. Like a Russian realist play.
Starting point is 00:41:18 You want to go on a cruise, you want to load up on shrimp, and then see Ernest Borgnine perform The Seagull. That's what you want. I'm a seagull. You want to see somebody introduce a gun to the first act and it comes back in the third act. There you go, yeah. I'm an actress. No, I'm a seagull.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I have a gun. That's all that matters. Exclusively, all the stars are elderly curmudgeonly guys. Wow. Yeah. Ed Asner still does it. You see, it's one of those things that you see advertisements. You know how in The New Yorker there's a narrow band of advertisements down the side for about 20 pages, two-thirds of the way through?
Starting point is 00:41:52 So the advertisements you see are poke boat, high-end mental health facilities and detox facilities, and places to jail your troubled teens. And see my future in that column. And Ed Asner theater cruises. Wow. Yeah. Affluent, overeducated rich people go on a European river cruise with either Ed Asner or Garrison Keillor. Those are the choices. And they have to share their wives with him.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah. Either way. Right. I'm sorry. It. Yeah, sure. Right. I'm sorry. It's in the contract. Yes. Our marriage vows are not valid on the high seas. I believe that a little too much.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Bill, is it easier to write jokes about like a complete train wreck like The Room or is it easier to do something, a kind of well-intentioned failure, i.e. Starship Troopers? I think the latter. Yeah. Because, yeah, it's the, you know, the cliche comedy room putting a hat on a hat. When you see Tommy with his naked ass,
Starting point is 00:42:57 there's not much to add to it. People react to it viscerally. What about something that's dumb but not a total failure? Because with Riff Trax, you do like an Armageddon type movie. You know what I mean? Like Armageddon is what it is. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:17 But it's not Starship Troopers. You know what I mean? Yeah. And those are the worst. Because the act three of those movies are always Confuso vision. Yeah, and those are the worst in a way because the act three of those movies are always Confuso vision. Just trying to get a toehold on a source of humor besides I have a headache. It's difficult.
Starting point is 00:43:32 The editing is bad. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like – and also with The Room, it seems like there are a set of jokes that already go with it from the people who like follow The Room around. Yeah, there is sort of a rocky horror thing that has developed around it and we are throw spoons yeah we're trying to damn it janet diplomatically ask people not to you know bean us with spoons during the life yeah please do not beat us with spoons although it would make you know objectively would make pretty good live show speaking of nerd shit i am I am surprised that my life is what it is and I've made the choices that I've made, but I have never been to the Rocky Horror. Really?
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah. Wow. A Rocky Horror picture show. See, now, Rocky Horror picture show is some nerd shit that while I haven't been to it, I could see myself having had been to it. Me too. Exactly. Yeah. Because definitely-
Starting point is 00:44:23 Wow, that's trippy. see myself having had been to it. Me too, exactly. Yeah. Because definitely- Wow, that's trippy. Definitely, that is some art school nerd shit that the people in the art school that I went to were definitely into, especially gay theater kids. Yeah, it's like a theater club thing.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah. When you call it a nerd thing, that is a new definition of nerd for me. Yeah, it's a specific kind. You're right. It's that theater kid. It's the maybe like kid who's been bullied, but they're kind of coming out of their shell in an awkward way.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I guess, yeah, that was kind of my set in high school. Well, I think you're right in that it was one of the early things that people got obsessed with and just like knew, you know, from stem to stern. Well, I think you're right in that it was one of the early things that people got obsessed with and just like knew from stem to stern. Yeah, yeah. That and Star Wars. And now everything else pretty much. I wonder if I – is there a reason to go to it now as a – probably not.
Starting point is 00:45:20 But it seems like it's a gap. It seems like if you were going to go to it, you would want to go to a really primo one. Yeah. Like I imagine there's one that's really primo at like the Castro Theater in San Francisco. I wonder if it's still even – Hype Organ comes out of the ground. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think once a year probably.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Yeah. Don't you think? Probably. On Tim Curry's birthday. Hello. On the eve of his death, Tim Curry's probably fine. Is he dying or dead? He's dying. Hello. On the eve of his death, Tim Curry's probably fine. Is he dying or dead? He's dying.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I poisoned Tim. You son of a bitch. Just an ounce of nightshade. I will not see Rocky Horror while you are alive. I did one of those Russian politician things where I put an isotope in his morning coffee. Sure. So he's dying imperceptibly over the course of a few months.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah. Anyway, I would see it. It's not, you know, it's a little bit silly. It'll feel dated, but Tim Curry's great in it. Like, great. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:18 I definitely saw the movie at sleepovers, and it's one of those things that is definitely fun for 20 minutes. So you've seen it. I haven't been to the thing. Throwing the toast and the rice and all that.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I think I saw it when I was like 10 on video. Yeah. And I remember it being preceded by a long trailer of itself with people talking about how many times they'd seen it. Yeah, yeah. And then I watched it. And I remember thinking, why did those people watch this movie so many times? Yeah. I didn't think it was very good.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah. It does feel kind of slow now. Yeah, it's definitely a – For these many years later. After the few really great dance numbers at the top, it just turns into this weird confusing thing about space people. I also think that the heterosexual 10-year-old may have a limited appreciation of camp. Sure, yeah. It's entirely possible.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I couldn't quite wrap my head around why it was good, what was good about it. Why this was breaking boundaries and teaching people about their identity. Yeah. And meatloaf. And meatloaf, yeah. It's hard to grasp meatloaf as a 10-year-old.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah, it is. That's something that you really gotta have some... Slippery. Yeah,af, yeah. It's hard to grasp meatloaf as a 10-year-old. Yeah, it is. That's something that you really got to have some. Slippery. Yeah, he's right. He's greasy. You have to get your little hand around him. Big ham hock legs. He is a big one.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Do you guys feel like there's something you missed? You're like, why have I still not done this? Like, it's in my zone. It's in my sphere. All of the show lost. Yeah. Not even a frame of it. I never watched The Sopranos.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah, me either. No, really? I guess I tried a few. You know, Sopranos is one of those shows where I, that and Battlestar Galactica still go into the zone of, I tried to watch them
Starting point is 00:47:57 because everyone said they were great and I fell asleep during the first episode and now I just consider them boring. Maybe they're not. Maybe I stayed up too late. Maybe I, maybe I. Maybe at the Fatburger bar, just, you know, a little too late.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I probably shouldn't try and watch prestige television on my phone at the Fatburger bar. Maybe that's. Jordan, as someone who watched almost of Battlestar Galactica, I can tell you, you don't need to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah. And now I'm not saying it's not good. There's like long stretches where it's really good, but it's one of those shows where there's long stretches where it's really good. And other parts where you're like, oh, man, now it's just random shit's happening. Yeah. And it's just almost as frustrating as it is good. It's not, you don't need to worry about it. Ditto The Wire, which I finally saw after being proselytized.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Like, that it's good or bad like all good i i i well at the end it sort of isn't as great as it could be yeah people would hate season two of the wire and it's my favorite one so yeah yeah i love the wire clean through although i will say this about the wire i i always feel a little bit weird about there's like a few sort of cartoony elements of the wire. There are. And I always feel weird when people talk. Like, they're not enough to, like, take me out of the show or, like, bother me, really. I mean, I'm like, I always think, like, huh, that's the chink in the armor of this amazing, perfect thing.
Starting point is 00:49:21 But when somebody tells me that it's their favorite part, like they can't stop talking about, this is getting really wire specific. Yeah. Brother Muzone. I'm like, I don't know. I feel like you were watching a different show than me. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Like I was watching this real, and you were just, you were watching like New Jack City or something. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Finally, we're talking about prestige television on our podcast with three white dudes. Yeah. I know, right? It's filling a real gap. Sure. Let's make sure to do a Tinder and an Uber chunk after this. And then we can really drive this home.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I don't know what I've missed. Yeah. I haven't seen some of those Batmans. Some of them Batmans? Batman, please. I saw one or two of the Batmans, but there's two or three of them. Oh, the Christopher Nolan Batmans? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I think the second one's the only one you need to see. The other two are perfectly entertaining, but the second one is good because of Heath Ledger and et cetera. I did see that with Heath Ledger was the number two. I saw that. Yeah. Of the Batmansger was the number two. I saw that. Yeah. Of the Batman. Of the Batmans. Yeah. I hadn't seen a Christmas story for a long time too.
Starting point is 00:50:32 That was a gap of one of those things. You're like, why haven't you seen it? And oh boy, don't watch that as an adult. That sucks. Straight up sucks. Yeah. I think I've done okay. I wonder there's things that I did see as a kid that I wonder what it would be like if I watched them now. The chief one in my mind is The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Ooh, yeah, I tried that as an adult. Really? Yeah, it was rough going. Yeah. I probably watched it 12 times as like a 9-year-old. Sure. But I don't, yeah. I don't even think I would have liked that as a 9-year-old. I mean, I was kind of a dumb 9-year-old. Sure. But I don't... Yeah. I don't even think I would have liked that as a nine-year-old.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I mean, I was kind of a dumb nine-year-old. Yeah. Well, I was a very dumb nine-year-old. I had an injury. Yeah, pretty dumb in general. Yeah, I've really gotten... I really worked hard to get to where I am today. You snapped back.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Which is fair. A solid C is what I am today, but I was a real D-minus when I was a nine-year-old. Ooh, nine-year-olds, man. Is there something that you feel like you missed, Jordan? Yeah, I mean, Rocky Horror, although I feel like it's being a nerd staple
Starting point is 00:51:34 is not, I don't know, it seems like it didn't move with that classic nerd shit like Monty Python and Doctor Who did. Which I guess I consider it one of those kind of early nerd staples. I couldn't have less interest in Doctor Who. Couldn't have more interest
Starting point is 00:51:49 in Monty Python, though. I watched Holy Grail recently, and I just fucking laughed straight through the whole fucking thing. Oh, yeah, it's hilarious. All those Monty Python movies hold up. Yeah, that's something, too, where I sometimes feel like I have to excuse myself from certain nerd conversations, but I think a good strategy is just steer it back to Monty Python.
Starting point is 00:52:07 We all like that, right? Come on, come on, come on, everybody. Let's gather around the one flame that ignites us all. The flame that ignites us all. Doctor Who, yeah. Thank you for saying that. I feel like I'm going to get assassinated for saying that. Look, I watched the new Doctor Who and I could see how people would like it, but I could also see that it wasn't really for me.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It feels like – I mean I have also watched a few new Dr. Whos and like them. And I'm like, oh, that was fun. That was a nice thing, although there was some continuity stuff that I clearly didn't understand. Although there was some continuity stuff that I clearly didn't understand. But I guess my thing is – and I know I'm inviting Twitter abuse. But it just seems – I just want to say you just like this because it's British. Right? This isn't better.
Starting point is 00:52:54 It's just British. I don't know. That's me. There's a certain – no, because I think there's a certain appeal that is similar to the appeal that people get out of Buffy, don't you? That is similar to the appeal that people get out of Buffy, don't you? Like it's that kind of like combination of nerd adventure and glibness. Sure. That people like. With occasional big bursts of pathos and, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I definitely find. I really care about them. I find despite my joking. If someone said to me, if I was over, if I was visiting a friend, they they said we're going to watch Doctor Who, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Sure. Buffy I can't deal with. Foo boy. I think – Buffy makes me want to put my face through a window.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Boy, something that really, really doesn't help Buffy is that it was – being an American TV show, they had to make 22 of those things per season. And there are some that are just like what is going on? Like this is just yeah and but then they're uh i don't know i feel like i've seen a couple that i've really really liked but also some i'm like what is this it's like my wife who is a hundred percent not a nerd just no nerd interests at all uh really likes buffy and it has something to do with like she had a roommate her freshman year of college and they couldn't get cable, but her roommate's sister would mail her VHS tapes of the new Buffys or something. And so they just watched a lot of Buffy together in her freshman year of college.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Bill, my mom, back home in Orange County, would VHS tape MST3K on SyFy Network and mail it to me at college. I can confirm that as Jordan's former R.I. We watched them in my dorm. Wow. And, yeah, but, you know, I feel like, oh, boy, and I'm – We're doing a deep dive here on Prestige TV. Yeah, yeah. I feel like Buffy people kind of realize its limitations.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I think the people aren't – people are like, oh, yeah, it's corny and blah. But it was a comfort thing for me as a kid and it showed me a lot about growing up. And there are some great episodes of it. I know that some of it's cheesy, but there were some legitimately great stuff. And it was something that helped me through a difficult time in high school. I feel like with Doctor Who, people insist that it's great. And they don't have that, I get it, but, you know. I've watched probably six of them.
Starting point is 00:55:13 We've done a couple of Doctor Who things on Bullseye. And all the people that I've had on Bullseye that were involved in Doctor Who, by the way, were just fucking great. Totally. Just totally great and charming and wonderful. Who did you get? We had Stephen Moffat on. Oh, wow. We, were just fucking great. Totally. Just totally great and charming and wonderful. Who did you get? We had Stephen Moffat on. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:55:28 We had the last Doctor Who. God, I would kill to have Peter Capaldi on the show because you couldn't find a bigger Peter Capaldi fan than me. Yeah. In fact, I should probably be watching Doctor Who since Peter Capaldi is Doctor Who now. Yeah. Only it's not called Doctor Who. I keep waiting for it.
Starting point is 00:55:42 It's a doctor, okay? I get it. D-O-C-T-O-R. I got it. Too late. People are typing on Twitter already. One of my first weeks
Starting point is 00:55:50 at At Midnight, I wrote something and mentioned Doctor Who and spelled it D-R-W-H-O and got legit chewed out in a meeting by Hardwick. Hardwick's for real. You know, I'm, yeah,
Starting point is 00:56:03 I mean, I guess I've, you know, I've watched a couple of the Capaldis and liked them too. And I guess I like it. I guess I – my deal isn't about the show. It's just the proselytizing of the show. Yeah. The like, the – It's not for me.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I mean, that's ultimately – The holding and shaking. When I was watching, I was thinking, this is pretty good. But it's not for me. Yeah. Sure. That's how I felt about it. I was like, this weird tone where everything is sort of
Starting point is 00:56:26 real and sort of a joke um it's interesting but it's not for me yeah and everything is erasable and redoable because of time yes because of yeah the most uh the most liberal universe rules in all of fiction but the wire wasn't happening for you, Bill? No, it actually was for a long time. It's just, as you described, whatever you're describing before,
Starting point is 00:56:50 I remember, like, there were these langurs in the... Season two really wasn't too bad for me, although I thought the blue-collar dudes were straight out of,
Starting point is 00:56:59 I don't know what, like a Paddy Chayefsky play or something. You know, just like, let's get a shot in the beer! It just, that, it rang a little false to me, unless Baltimore is like the land that time forgot. Brother Mouzon a little bit, that too.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Like, I felt bad about not liking that character, which this was a character who was like a, he was basically like an assassin, but who was a Fruit of Islam type guy. Yeah, yeah. Who wore a bow tie and, you know and was immaculately coiffed. Do you remember his bit? He was always sending his flunky to get him like,
Starting point is 00:57:29 Hoppers, get me Colliers from the newsstand. And he was always reading these sort of Upper West Side liberal magazines. Yeah, it was a very- Saturday Evening Post on my bed now. Yeah, it seems like kind of a classic prestige cable. A character with a thing. Yeah. He sure got a thing. It was a total Saturday evening post on my bed. Now it seems like a kind of a classic prestige cable, a character with a thing. Yeah. You sure got a thing. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:48 It was a total character with a thing. And I, but I did find the school year pretty touching. Actually. I liked that one quite a bit. It's pretty raw. It's raw. And then when they got into journalism, it left me a little cold. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Journalism made me want to roll my eyes. Right. Basically the whole time. I mean, I wanted to know what happened to my friends from the television show. Right. But, yeah. Yeah, that was rough. There's also similar with Friday Night Lights.
Starting point is 00:58:10 It's also a show where there's just a lot of things about it that are really, really good. And you can just tell that there were points where, like, the network was just like, do this. And they're like, okay. I don't know. We'll try and do that. There's a very specific point. Do you remember, like, season two? I guess nobody cares if I spoil it. I don't know. We'll try and do that. There's a very specific point. Do you remember season two? I guess nobody cares if I spoil it.
Starting point is 00:58:29 The murder. There's actually like a somebody kill somebody thing. Yeah. And they sort of just like go under the rug there for season three. Let's pretend that never happened. Whoops. I love that show almost unabashedly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:43 It's crazy. Okay, look. We're done talking about prestige television. Yeah, I think so. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse, Go, and we apologize for the preceding 25 minutes of this show. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. Hello, I'm Taco, the elephant magician.
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Starting point is 01:00:14 Oh, my God. And I remember, you know. Did you read the part of Left Nipple or something? Yes. Johnny Testicle. I forget what it was. Judah Freelander was almost literally that. He was like, you know, bowel dude. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Yeah. I have not seen the film. But I went in and I noticed, I was looking at the sides, the little lines they give you to audition with. And I noticed your name on it. And the casting director was a very, like, you know, like if you were central casting a gay guy casting director, this was him. Right, right. And I came in and I'm like, oh my God, was this written by Bill Corbett from Mystery
Starting point is 01:00:55 Science Theater 3000? And he's like, I guess. I don't know. Anyway. Yeah. So yeah. That's a great, that's a real winning. Look, you're a Hollywood veteran.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I don't know how much pain was involved in the thing that you cared about creating turning into a weird universally reviled Eddie Murphy movie. But hopefully that's far enough in the past for you now that you can enjoy what a great credit it is. Yeah. I mean I have nothing to complain about. I made good Hollywood money for a little while and that's worth something. But it was never like a work of art even in screenplay form. It was a silly movie but I had hoped it would be more like Futurama-ish rather than dumbass Eddie Murphy movie. And he was not the problem.
Starting point is 01:01:45 He was fine in it. He's great. He's great. Eddie Murphy is really good at comedy acting. He's one of the best ever. But not only that, he gave himself over to the awkward shit in the script and tried to make it work. I think he just had some bad karma coming off that Norbit movie, which was right before it. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Deservedly so. I feel like maybe our friend Matt Belknap, who used to be a script reader, told me or maybe talked on Never Not Funny one time about reading a script that Eddie and Charlie Murphy wrote that became Meet the Klumps or Norbit. Oh, wow. One of those at the nadir of the family film work of Eddie Murphy. And him just saying that it was not screenplay formatted.
Starting point is 01:02:35 It was like illegible, ungrammatical. It didn't make sense. Napkins stapled together. It might as well have just been. Green light. It's like napkins stapled together. It might as well have just been- Green light! It might as well have just literally been a piece of paper that just said,
Starting point is 01:02:48 Eddie Murphy will be in this. Turn on the camera. He will be funny. You know? There's a world in which I think- That's not that bad of an idea. No, that's fine. Is that funny?
Starting point is 01:02:58 No, he's great. Yeah. Anyway, momentous occasions. Let's say that Eddie Murphy agrees to star in a movie that you've written. That would qualify as a momentous occasion. We'd have you call us at 206-984-4FUN. That's 206-984-4FUN. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:03:18 How come I can't say these words? I've been saying these words once a week for the past eight years, and I can't say these words. 206-984-4FUN for our segment, Momentous Occasions. Let's take our first call. Hey, Jordan and Jesse, it's Paul from Chicago calling in with a Momentous Occasion. It's Sunday morning, and I just dropped off my date from last night. We spent the night together at my place, but of course did very little sleeping. It was my first time. It was fantastic. However, I am three months older than Jesse. So to sum up, late bloomer scores big. Thanks guys. Love the show. Oh, P.S. I fucked a dude. Yeah. All right. Fuck the dude. Fuck the dude.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Fuck the dude. Yeah, this is awesome. Okay, number one. Well, we did start the show off with S-ing a D. Sure, yeah. It's kind of coming together. It's called the prestige, Bill. Number one, the potential social...
Starting point is 01:04:18 Sorry, I was late on this. Yeah. Anyway, fuck the dude. The potential social complications of this for a guy who grew up gay, I think for a lot of gay people, they have sexual experiences later because they have to deal with a lot more complicated shit in their childhoods and teenage years. in teenage years. Like the example that has always been the most clear to me, the way of putting it is,
Starting point is 01:04:46 I can't remember who said this to me, but it's like, just imagine how lost you are as like a 15 or 16 year old with romance. I remember like,
Starting point is 01:04:56 you're trying to figure out like what is a date? What is a person who likes you? Yeah. How is kissing? What does kissing do? Like where do you
Starting point is 01:05:04 put your penis? All of those questions are totally open questions. A clow-what-ris? Yeah. Like, the literal answer that you get out of a book or a sex ed class or your parents or whatever probably doesn't even help. But imagine if it's that
Starting point is 01:05:20 plus you're like one of three secret gay people in your community of people. And your parents aren't gay, so they can't help you, even if they supported you, which they may not. So it made me feel like this is a more triumphant story than it might otherwise have been. It comforted me that it was a dude. He seemed extraordinarily happy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Good for him. Yeah. Yeah, and that's worth a lot. Good for him. Yeah, I mean, you know, and who's to say that a late-in-life fuckfest can't be really rewarding? Yeah. I'm sure it can be in some ways more fun than a, you know, 16, 18-year-old fuckfest. I mean, you know, maybe this is the start of a monogamous relationship and it will have to be a two-person fuckfest. I mean my business at 16 was, depending on how you look at it, either borderline non-functional or excessively hyper-functional.
Starting point is 01:06:25 And I think it's – I have a lot more fun with my business now at my age than I did when I was 16. Sure. When I could achieve orgasm by riding on a bumpy bus. Yeah. When you could achieve orgasm by looking at Cindy Williams on TV. Sure. Starship Troopers shower scene. Oh, yeah. With a group of buddies. TV. Sure. Starship Troopers shower scene. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:47 With a group of buddies. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Way to go. Bravo, dude. That was a very good one. That was one of my favorite occasions in quite some time. And at first, at the beginning, I'm thinking to myself, this guy's a little slick.
Starting point is 01:07:02 All right. This guy's pretty proud of himself. Sure. You know, this guy's- Congratulations.. All right. This guy's pretty proud of himself. Sure. You know, this guy's- Congratulations. Way to get it wet. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:07 This guy needs to be taken down a notch. But he knew what he had in his back pocket. He brought it out, he showed it to us, and it bowled us over. Sure. Good work, sir. I like that he knows exactly how old you are and that he's three months away from you. Yeah. That is pretty precise.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah, very precise. He was born in January of 19- Sure. He's like, I'm around Jesse's age. I am three months older than Jesse. Yeah. Way to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Good work, sir. Do it again. Yeah. If you're out there. That's good advice. Yeah, do it again. I wish that somebody had told me that before now. You're just-
Starting point is 01:07:43 You've only done it once. You got one notch on your belt, Jesse. How do I have two children? Well, I mean- You're just very efficient. Yeah. Hang tight, guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Your wife saved some of the overflow and put it in your- You guys have cryotubes at the house, right? Oh, yeah. We got a whole set of cryotubes. You got to have cryotubes. Pretty standard. That's just for my cryotubic research. Sure. Such nice brass fixtures, too, by the way.
Starting point is 01:08:08 You got a little Seinfeld-y in there. Of course you have cryotubes. Who doesn't have cryotubes? Of course you have! A tube? A tube! A word? A word?
Starting point is 01:08:19 A word! I'm fixing the cryotubes, Jerry! Oh, I love cryotubes Jerry Oh I love cryotubes Let's take our next call Hey Jordan Jesse Go I'm driving right now And I just saw A license plate worthy of a momentous occasion
Starting point is 01:08:38 The license plate was Hot Pop That's H-O-T-P-O-P, which I hope belongs to some sort of hot father or grandfather. I don't know if it stacks up with charades. I quite like it. Thanks, guys. Love the show. They requested Hot Pop Pop.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Yeah. That was spoken for. Maybe he's a fan of lukewarm soda. Sure, yeah. Or he could be a popcorn magnate. That might have been Orville Redenbacher. Bill, I don't know if you know this, but I'm a bit of a Dr. Pepper nerd. Are you really?
Starting point is 01:09:12 And Dr. Pepper was marketed to drink as a hot beverage for a time. I think this was in the 60s. Right. And I've tried it. Not bad. Really? Here's what you do. What does heat do to carbonation though?
Starting point is 01:09:26 So it gets weird So what you do is You leave it open in your fridge overnight I'm not doing this by the way It gets pretty flat Continue You'll certainly do this You'll do this tomorrow
Starting point is 01:09:36 Okay Look, you're in Hollywood Alright It's all about the hot Dr. Pepper You leave it You let it go flat And then you heat it up And and you serve it with lemon. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Lemon is important because otherwise the taste is a little thing. That does not sound bad. Yeah, and you're going to do it tomorrow. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're all doing it. It's like the new kale. Okay. It's a superfood, right?
Starting point is 01:10:00 Let's back up. Heating it up infuses it with antioxidants. Yeah. This was a momentous occasion for this man. Yeah. That was it up infuses it with antioxidants. Yeah. Which as we know – This was a momentous occasion for this man. Yeah. Like that was something that meant a lot to him. You know, we've got a little bit – I think we're filling a niche these days of being the funny license plate guys.
Starting point is 01:10:18 We're the go-to guys to call when you – I feel like I get a lot of funny plates on Twitter. Yeah. Which I like. I like it. I agree, too. It's fun. I don't know that I want to make it my niche. I don't know if I want to be.
Starting point is 01:10:32 You guys sound like you're convincing yourselves it's a good thing. Bill, you've settled pretty comfortably into your niche. What do you think our niche should be? Wow. I mean, guys, if you like funny license plates, please go all the way with it. No. Don't back down. Direct to movie theaters?
Starting point is 01:10:50 Right. Get Eddie Murphy to star in your funny license plate. Eat shame for the next decade. Sure. Follow me. Yeah, I feel like I am incredibly sensitive to being in a rut. Yeah. And I feel like when I get funny plates, and I like the funny plates, but it makes me worried that I'll never achieve anything else and die alone.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Now, here's the thing. Wow. Yeah. It sends me down a pretty intense spiral. You leapfrogged quite a bit there. Here's the thing, Jordan. Jordan Jesse Go is a podcast of great esteem. Sure.
Starting point is 01:11:32 The inspiration for many podcasts that followed it. And has a loyal listener base. Can you imagine how popular we would be if when we did something people liked that they wanted us to do again we did it again yeah what could have been blowing my mind yeah i know oh man god we could just get on that jimmy kimmel apology notes sure wait jimmy fallon apology notes bandwagon. Yeah. Just if we had a bit. Well, do you think the license plate is that bit for you guys? Or has it been tested? I don't know. How about this?
Starting point is 01:12:10 Can I throw this out there? There was a guy, I think, on the sports talk station that I grew up listening to, KNBR 68, the sports leader. I think on KNBR, one of the DJs, one of the hosts had been like a morning radio DJ. And his thing when he was a morning radio DJ was he could recognize any car by the honk of the horn over the telephone. So people would call up to the show, honk their car horn, and he would say, um, 78 Datsun. Wow. And he would be right. It was crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Maybe that should be our thing. Identifying car horns? How long did he keep that up? We're going to be real bad at it at first. Is that like decades of that? Decades of it. Wow. He probably had perfect pitch like Chevy Chase.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Yeah. Like Chevy Chase. Yeah. Chevy Chase. I don't know that story. Although maybe we should go back. We should probably take more of a cue from Fallon. I think you were kind of on to something there.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Bill, do you want to redo this episode and we all just play beer pong? Absolutely. Okay, great. Yeah. Let's just play fun games with celebs. Sure. You know what? We got Bill Corbett here.
Starting point is 01:13:16 All this time we've been trying to be funny. Maybe we should abandon that and just be fun. Just seem like nice guys. A little joy sells you guys. I don't think we're good looking enough. People like joy. Not good looking enough. And yeah, I think not joyful enough.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I think we, you know. Yeah. Too much prestige TV. Too much prestige TV. All this prestige TV is bumming us out with its anti-heroes. We are. And it's look at the moral gray areas of the world. We're sincerely.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Right. And make 22 episodes and have a lot of them suck. Sure, some will suck. We're sincerely fanboying out over our comedy hero Bill Corbett today. Sure. So that's something. Should I now? We got a little bit of Fallon going on.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Yeah. We've been telling Bill Corbett about how great he is and how much we love his work. Thanks, guys. You mentioned those VHS tapes your mom used to send. I was so excited. Which you would say would be a big padded envelope. It would have a VHS. It would probably have two episodes on it.
Starting point is 01:14:11 It was great. Nice. Jordan, remember when Gene got that bootleg VHS tape of all the Tenacious D episodes? Oh, sure. That was a big moment in our college careers. Hoo boy. I did not know until today that you guys were college pals. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:26 And you were the RA. I was – well, we both ended up being RAs. But I was Jordan's RA, his freshman. I'm a year older than him. So I was a sophomore. He was a freshman on the Performing Arts Hall, which was a real nightmare. Why? It had some real bright spots.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Yeah. And some real low lights. I guess it's – you know, there's a lot of kinds of nightmares you can have when you're an RA. There's like behavioral nightmares, drug and alcohol. This was just a lot of like- People singing Les Mis at 4 a.m. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Yep. You got it. A lot of well-intentioned goobers. Right. Yeah. Really. One of whom just needed so many condoms. And I'm like, who is sleeping with you, David?
Starting point is 01:15:04 Wow. Who is sleeping with this guy? Was it your job to provide them? Yeah, he would just knock on my door for condoms all the time. Wow. Like two a day. And he'd be like ready. Like he would not be.
Starting point is 01:15:19 He would be erect. He would be fully erect. It would be like a thing where he's holding up a towel around his waist. He's like, oh, man, I need some condoms. Who is sleeping with this goober? He was a nice guy, but jeez louise, that guy was getting laid. Wow. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Goobers get laid. Yeah, it's true. Just goobing around. If you're a goober out there. If you haven't been balls deep in a goober, you haven't lived. Oh, yeah. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse, go. It's Jordan, Jesse, go.
Starting point is 01:16:02 I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Bill Corbett, friend of both of these gentlemen. Thank you, la, la. It's Jordan, Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Bill Corbett, friend of both of these gentlemen. Thank you, Bill. Yeah. You're my friend, too. Thanks, man. It's just working for both of us.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I'm glad. Not Kevin Murphy, though. Oh, no. Let Kevin Murphy know that he's a frenemy. Oh. You know what? When you guys get together, you're pals, but it can get a little catty. Can I tell you something?
Starting point is 01:16:23 Yeah. Mike Nelson, another colleague of the Riff Trax community, and I recently discovered that we have a mutual enemy. Hmm. Crows. How about that? Mike Nelson is also a hater of crows. Very much so, yeah. I'm so delighted.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Mike's such a funny, talented, charming guy. It's nice to have him on my anti-crow team. Yeah, he loathes them with a white-hot passion. There you go. Has he had a specific bad experience? Yeah, I think. He doesn't like the cut of their jib. Probably that, too.
Starting point is 01:16:55 But when he was in San Diego, he was sleepless with a whole murder, a murder of crows. Sure, yeah, yeah. Just keeping him up all night. And he actually, did he talk about this with you? He got this little thing where he, you play like a loop of a tape of a hawk to try to make them go away. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:15 And it's just like the subtle thing. It seems designed exactly for that. That they're like, oh, fuck, a hawk is going to come. But then it attracts hawks. The hawks keep you up and the next thing you know, there's a bear eating snakes in your yard. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:29 The whole ecosystem is fucked. I want to hear some more of the crows' voices that Bill was just doing. Oh, my. We crows are Long Island housewives. I just made it sound like the women I used to serve spa lunches to at Lord & Taylor in New York. They would make everything like four syllables even when they weren't. I love the spa lunch. Every time I visit New York or the East Coast and I hear someone talking like that, it blows my mind that that's real.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I guess I just knew that as a joke voice you did when you were in a Neil Simon play. But I'm like, people talk like that. I grew up with that and I still feel that way. It's like, really? You don't have to do that, you know. Coffee, coffee. I'm like, what? What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:18:19 I wish I had a cool regional accent. That'd be so great. I feel like the three regionalisms that I got from growing up in Northern California are really not cutting it. What are they? I don't know. Somebody will write in and tell me right now. Yeah. Please don't.
Starting point is 01:18:34 You extend your Fs. Your Fs. Yeah, but, you know, I mean, like, roughly speaking, outside of saying hella sometimes. Yeah. Roughly speaking, outside of saying hella sometimes, it's mostly like a newscaster talk for me. You are America. And I would love if, man, what if I was that guy from Colorado Springs, Van? Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I was Van from Colorado Springs. Oh, Jesse, we don't like Van anymore because- Who do we choose instead of Van? Christian. Christian. Yeah. Christian is better than van if i talk like christian that would be fun too that would be great oh yeah these are some callers we had a caller who had a cool regional accent colorado springy an accent uh he was an alabama guy who was moving to colorado and uh and you know he was the he was the song in our hearts for a while, but now he can eat shit. Yeah, because this other guy called in from L.A. and he said that he just found out his grandpa's favorite genre of movie was talking dog movies.
Starting point is 01:19:39 And it's been a new world ever since. Sorry, Colorado Springs. Aspen? ever since. Sorry, Colorado Springs. Aspen? Aspen. Sorry, Aspen. You just met a little buzzsaw called Colorful Immigrant Grandpa. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Fucking Christian. That guy's the best. Four stars for Christian. Talking dog movies. Do you think we could pay Christian just to come here and hang out? Yeah. Well, I mean, he's probably got to finish college first.
Starting point is 01:20:07 He's a college student, but he'll be looking for work afterwards, right? In this job market. Bring the list of the talking dog movies. I'm sure somebody has quantified it at some point. I would like to watch a talking dog. It's been a while since I've seen a talking dog movie. The last one I can think of is Norm MacDonald as Vampire Dog.
Starting point is 01:20:24 What's that? It's a thing. They made a legend. Norm Mac think of is Norm MacDonald as Vampire Dog. What's that? It's a thing. They made it less interesting. Norm MacDonald just being Norm MacDonald. I'm a vampire. I'm kind of a dog, too. I'd like to watch this now. Yeah. Crackar.
Starting point is 01:20:37 This is real. A straight-to-video thing? Straight-to-video. Speaking as a big fan of the Norm MacDonald vehicle dirty work, I think I'm on board for whatever movie Norm Macdonald. Oh, yeah. Norm Macdonald is half committed to being there. Yeah, the film work of Norm Macdonald is pretty amazing. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Okay. Bill Corbett on the internet. RiffTrax.com. R-I-F-F-T-R-A-X. You got it. Look, let's say you think Bill Corr was fun on this show. Here's my recommendations. Number one, go to RiffTrax.com.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Number two, throw a couple bucks at RiffTrax.com and download a couple of cool, hilarious commentaries. Exactly. Sync up with a film, either using a DVD player and a computer or whatever, or using their proprietary technology. Yeah. Proprietary digital technology, Jordan. using a DVD player and a computer or whatever, or using their proprietary technology. Yeah. Proprietary digital technology, Jordan. Wow, you got through that phrase admirably. I don't think I could.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Too bad I can't say momentous occasions. Or your phone number. Bill Corbett also has a wonderful Christmas comic book if you're looking for a Christmas gift just to hang on to for eight months. Tis the season, you guys. Eventually. Bill Corbett writes plays that are produced in the Minneapolis area frequently from time to time.
Starting point is 01:21:56 So if you're there, you're going to want to go see the new Corbett. There's always one play in. You're going to want to go see the new Corbett. Going to see the new Corbett and have, you know, Fatburger. You're going to want to get out to the Corbin. Going to see the new Corbin of, you know, Fatburger. You're going to want to get out to the movie theater so you can see the Royal Shakespeare Company's production of Frankenstein. Have you guys thought about riffing an opera? Just to, like, have a Fathom Events kind of convergence? I like that.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Get Glenn Beck involved. Get Glenn Beck, yeah! The drum line in the background. Sure. Big party. Sure, it's a crisis on infinite earths of live theater events. It's going to be fun. Hey, you know what?
Starting point is 01:22:31 You know what else you can do? Sure. You know who makes riff tracks? Janet Varney. Oh, yeah. That's true. And along with past guest Cole Stratton, I believe. That's right.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I bet those are funny. I haven't seen them, but I bet they're funny. Yeah. I've seen the real riff tracks. They have their little brand within our Riff Trax thing. Yeah, they're great. They're hilarious. That's just some fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:50 They're better than us. Some different fun stuff to check out. Some of the coolest dudes around who hate crows. Hey, does anyone want to come hang out and see The Room with me? If you're an LA listener, I'm going to come see The Room. Are we going to do a Riff Trax The Room JJ Go casual meetup? Oh, do you want to? That'd be fun.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I'd love to. Oh, man. That'd be so fun. We'd be honored. Yeah. Okay. We'll put it together. When it's coming up, remind us when it's coming up, the listener.
Starting point is 01:23:20 June, right? June-ish? Yeah. Anyway. May-ish. May-ish, June-ish. Sometime in April or August. I think we can make that happen.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Yeah. That does sound like my ideal situation to watch The Room. So fun. Because I know I'll enjoy it because the Riff Trax guys will be there. We'll take care of you, man. Plus, once in a while, you guys are on tour. Because once in a while, you guys hit the road. We don't really do that so much, but we're going to the Tribeca Film Festival to try out The Room.
Starting point is 01:23:42 We're taking that on the road. That's like our opening in New Haven. And that's like next week. That'll be fun. Well, that'll already have happened by the time this airs. That is true. So get yourself a time machine, Doctor Who style. Sure.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Wipe the slate clean. Bring it all back. Bill Corbett doesn't like it. He wants more continuity. Have no stakes because anything could happen. I am old and I'm easily confused. Do not travel through time, please. On the boards this week, the great Lindsay Pavlis.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Thank you, Lindsay. By the way, all kinds of new episodes of Brian and Lindsay will totally eat that. So make sure you go to the Maximum Fun YouTube channel and check that shit out. Maybe they'll eat some really fun stuff. You can also watch the video of our live show that we did at the end of the Max Fun Drive on the Max Fun YouTube channel with John Hodgman and Ross and Carrie from Oh No Ross and Carrie and Travis McElroy and Dave Holmes. Sure. A real murderer's row of awesome people. And our producer is Brian Fernandez.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Our music, Love You by The Free Design, courtesy of The Free Design and Light in the Attic Records. Yes, they are a real band. Yes, they also licensed that music to a Delta commercial. And yes, we're aware of that. Thank you, everyone. Hey, how about this? Fun new project. Every time you want to tweet at us about the Delta commercial, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:24:59 We know. Yeah. Just send a general tweet about how much you like the show. God, yes. Thank you. Because we've gotten so many tweets. We know. just send a general tweet about how much you like the show thank you we know if there's theme music being in a commercial then there are overall tweets about Jordan Jesse Go being good and recommending it to
Starting point is 01:25:14 others funny license plates only people yeah we know about the commercial back off on the commercial if you see one that says bump flap we'll talk to you next time. If you see one that says bump flap. Anyway. We'll talk to you next time on Jordan, Jessica.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Bye. Bye.

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