Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Ep. 663: The Turducken with Cody Ziglar

Episode Date: November 20, 2020

Cody Ziglar (She-Hulk on D+, The Dark Weeb podcast) joins Jordan and Jesse for a discussion of the lesser-known sodas from the south like Cheer Wine, the titillating hashtag Jordan saw being used on the Antiques Roadshow, and the jarring ebb and flow of action in Attack on Titan, an anime that features naked crank-less giants eating people. Plus, we hear from some postal workers and someone who took his RPG game to the next level. 

Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne, aka Mr. Three Times in One Day. Oh man, Jordan Morris, boy detective. Jesse! Now Jordan, I'm talking about doing it three times in one day. A lot of people thought I was too old. A lot of people thought I was too tired. They thought the world was too scary, but I did it three times today. Three times, Jordan. I just want to cut in and then say, I can say this is definitively going to be about jacking off. This is not going to be a left turn.

There is not going to be another thing this is definitely jacking off go ahead no jordan it's not about jacking off i think you know this jordan jordan i think you know that what i i was sure i was positive because of the way you were saying it i a man in my late 30s am happily married i'm happily married to my beautiful wife theresa we have a productive home life that's why today i did it three times one two three call me mr three times it's a coronavirus special baby lockdown action uh okay so so you're not you're not you're not talking about jno nope it's not about jno my friend what is it are you gonna tell us yeah running the dishwasher i ran the dishwasher three times i failed and ran the dishwasher three times today because it's a sunday

my daughter and i did some cooking together so there's a lot of, I made a vichyssoise. Oh, do they call you Mr. 123 because you're an underseen Billy Wilder movie? Sorry, I couldn't think of that when you were saying it, but then I thought of it later and thought it was worth going back. Yeah, exactly. Why you got all those messy dishes?

They call me the, I was going to say the less weird, but similarly weird Julia Child because I made a vichyssoise. Okay. I guess I don't know what that is. It's a potato leek soup. Oh, that sounds good. Yeah.

It's a classic French peasant soup. It's a beautiful soup. Traditionally served cold, but I'm American, so I tend to serve it hot. Good for you. Don't let those commies convince you to ice up your soup no they got three day work weeks they don't even turn on the burners on uh thursdays fridays saturdays and sundays exactly communist fucks their vichyssoise three three times filled it emptied it ran it wait emptied it filled it ran it that's the order you

do it in so wait how many times did you jack off i jacked off twice okay it's just like regular pretty good that's still pretty good well if you space it out if you do one in the morning if you wake up first you know if you're the first person to wake up. And then one if everybody goes out for a walk or something. That sounds nice. You know how that is. These are great tips. Yeah. I didn't jack off at all today,

Jordan. I'm doing Movember. Oh. That's where I only... No nut Movember. That's where in lieu of jacking off you grow a mustache. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Hey, everybody, play along at home.

No nut Movember. Should we introduce our guest on the program, Jordan? I would love to. Our guest on the program is a writer for Robot Chicken and She-Hulk, a podcast producer, an anime expert, apparently. Please welcome to the program, all the way from beautiful North Carolina, Cody Ziegler. Hi, Cody. How are you?

Oh, what's up, guys? How are you living, King? First of all, congrats for getting those three dishwashers in. I'm proud of you. Thank you very much. Namaste. I greet the God within you. Thank you, King.

Young King loading dishwashers. My man's out here breaded. Cody, I didn't know this, but you are taking, you're a show business professional, but you're taking a COVID sabbatical in your home state of North Carolina? That is correct. That is correct, King. And thank you for calling us King. This is great.

I feel amazing. I'm all about uplifting my fellow podcasters, you know. Thank you. Yes. How are you liking it? What are the North Carolina things you can do that you cannot do in LA? Well, you know, first of all,

and this is not being sardonic or facetious, like literally when I landed, like the air is just so, cause I'm in, I'm in the country. I'm right now I'm at my dad's house in Greensboro, which is like, it's, it's quote unquote a city, but really it's just a bunch of high rises in the middle of like the forest. So like one, the air is just clean. Like I can breathe normally. Like I can like walk a block and not like be heaving, like I'm about to die. And you know, the best part literally though, is just clean like i can breathe normally like i can like walk a block and not like be heaving like i'm about to die and um you know the best part literally though is just like everything is like just cheaper like i feel like i feel like i'm i'm a rich man like i you know i haven't

technically worked in like four months but like when everything out here costs five dollars like you feel like you're sort of slumming it with the mud people everything everything from beer to swimming trunks to human life is cheaper yeah and it all costs five dollars like that's the weird thing i don't know how they set that precedent but i'm glad that they did i'm out here thriving so you're just dropping lincoln's left and right what's the first thing you do when you get to north carolina when you step off that airplane where's the first place you had uh other than your parents house this is oh boy i'm such a fat ass like literally the first thing i did is i picked up my rented car my rental car because

you know i got the money hell yeah doing uh you what are you you're rolling hertz you're on national oh you know i'm doing hertz you know i'm doing hertz baby hell yeah that's right king uh this king's snacking on hertz donuts i'm snack i got that hertz money literally the first thing i do is i stop by uh i i think it's just a regional chain but there's this restaurant called bojangles it's like a um sort of like the the south's equivalent of like popeyes um they sort of specialize in like biscuits and chicken and stuff. And I get a sausage, egg and cheese biscuit, a bacon, egg and cheese biscuit. And then I wash it down with a cheer wine. Like that's always my LA to like North Carolina ritual. As soon as I like

step off the plane. What's a cheer wine. I've never, is it like a, is that like a big red or is that a regional? Oh dude.. Let me give you some education. It's a North Carolina soda. It is sort of like I'd say cherry adjacent. It's definitely in the cherry family. I don't know what the ingredients are. I don't have the secret spices and stuff.

I think a layman could call it a cherry soda. They only really sell it here in the south predominantly in like north carolina south carolina and probably tennessee and maybe georgia if you like look for it hard enough but you can find it in some specialty stores um like some of those specialty pop stores um in the big cities but like look if you if you're into drinking sodas which i don't do too much these days but when i do i, I highly recommend the Cheerwine. It'll change your life. Man.

Cheerwine is a nice drink. You know what's a not wildly dissimilar drink that I like? What's that? Is iron beer. Have either of you guys ever had iron beer? No. No. What is that?

That is like a Cuban soda, but I guess it's a cuban american soda at this point i don't know that they still have it in cuba i think it's like something that left with the revolution because it is uh an imperialist indulgence or whatever what kind of uh flavor profile we thought we're talking about yeah let's get into the profile we're talking about like a fruitier Dr. Pepper flavor profile. I would say like 75% Big Red. It's a little more complex than Big Red, 25% Dr. Pepper. It's not like a Cherry Dr. Pepper where it's mostly Dr. Pepper flavor. It's a fruitier soda, but it has a little bit of that Dr. Pepper complexity. It's a very nice soda. By the way, first thing I would do when I got off the plane in North Carolina, take my shirt off, twist it around my hand, spin it like a helicopter.

Yeah, it's funny enough you say that because actually that's the second thing that I do. Once I wash down my sausage, egg, and cheese biscuit with Sharon, I actually take my shirt off and wave it out the window while I'm driving down the highway. I understand. My extended family all lives in the South. So when we would go to visit them, you know, on family vacations and stuff,

yeah, we would drink big red and there would always be some weird alternate Dr. Pepper that we couldn't get in. Was it, was it Dr. Thunder? No, no,

just like an actual, like you would be able to get like a peach Dr. Pepper and like, you know, in the actual can. And it's like, like a peach dr pepper and like you know in the actual can and it's like why isn't this in california so yeah the south uh definitely has a proud tradition of uh alternate sodas yeah of choking down uh shitty sugar water that'll rot your guts out that's the dream though isn't it god what a life just access just go to some restaurant when i when i'm in the american south you know like

me and hodgman john hodgman on a judge john hodgman tour we drove from uh dc down to atlanta and raleigh durham and um it was a great trip and the thing all i wanted to do the entire time was just stop at every barbecue restaurant on the way just every single one and like you only have to drive two hours to get to a new kind of barbecue that the people there are really mad about the last kind of barbecue you ate it's like i'll eat all your barbecues. I'm not picking sides here. Yeah, they're definitely like regional truthers. Yeah, I'll say that the other one sucked while I'm at the next place. If that'll make you all happy, I will say that vinegar sauce sucks or whatever.

The Lexington style is really the style you got to anchor yourself onto. I am a Lexington North Carolina barbecue truther. What is Lexington style? That is the more vinegar-based. It's not like, I guess, whatever the thick sauce base, like it's all vinegar down there. That's obviously the kind that I grew up on eating. So when I discovered there was actually different styles,

I was like, what is this thick trash that I have to choke down? Give me that vinegar, baby. But not mustardy. It's not a yellow sauce. No, no, no, no, no. Just a simple vinegar. No, no, no. Like almost a colorless sauce.

I'd say, have you guys had Texas Pete? Do you guys have that hot sauce? It's a North Carolina hot sauce. It's like, I guess maybe like a Valentino adjacent. Like maybe a couple rungs under that, like taste-wise. Yeah, I have an uh-uh. And I love a hot sauce recommendation yeah i'm excited to hear that texas pete is a north carolina specialty

yeah i mean the name would make you think that it's from texas but it's actually from winston salem north carolina even though there is a giant red cowboy with a lasso on the cover it is actually uh that is fake it is he's actually born and bred in winston salem north carolina whenever i'm in san diego I always eat at Colorado Joe's. San Diego's own Colorado Joe's. It's all about the Brandon, baby. Yes. But I am like a serious heavy food enthusiast.

I really have, I have an iron stomach for that kind of thing. And the volume of biscuits, the volume of fried chicken, the volume of barbecue, the volume of stewed greens. Oh, yeah. Like all of these things I could eat forever until I was sick. And I would do it two meals a day. Like, I don't think I could do it quite three, but two meals a day I would eat until I was sick on those various foods. Don't worry. I can do that third meal for you. It's funny. It's funny you say that you like the heavy meals because I just had dinner with my family not too long ago and we had,

let me count one. We had three different types of chicken with uh like pork chops and like collard greens and mashed potatoes and corn and washing it down with like juices and we had some like donuts in the uh oven waiting for us afterwards like it was full full hedonistic just like slobbering down just a bunch of organ meat just getting in all types of organ meat in that stomach i'm let's break down cody what are the what are your Just getting in all types of organ meat in that stomach. Let's break down, Cody. What are your three types of chicken here? That's exactly what I wanted to know. My boys are syncing stuff right now.

So we had some grilled, like on the grill chicken marinated. I'm not sure what it was marinated in. I tasted a little bit of spice. There was definitely some hot sauce in there. We had some leftover fried chicken from KFC. And then we had some barbecued chicken. And actually, you know what? There was some salmon in there, too.

I forgot there was just a salmon steak just resting in the thing as well. I forgot about that. Holy hell. So I guess we had land, sea, and air. Yeah, it was great. All of this sounds great. Cody, I appreciate every single thing on your list.

Oh, thank you. My number one is going to have to be salmon with the L pronounced. I'm over the moon about that, Cody. I love it so much. Are you sure? I don't want to eat it because I don't really like fish, to be honest with you. But I want to hear that word pronounced in that way forever. You know what?

I got you. You know, I've been educated out here in the South. We got that L. You need that L. I got it for you. The land of many Ls, they call it. I had a couple of TV questions I wanted to run by the both of you. Cody, I have some questions about anime. Oh, okay. Jesse, I have some questions about anime. Oh, okay. And Jesse, I have some questions

about the Antiques Roadshow. Great. So you've... We got the whole spectrum covered here. Jordan, sounds like you've got us pegged. Jordan, just so you know, I'm also available to answer questions about Julia and Jacques Pepin.

I have no questions about them, but if I have any, I know who to text. Okay, I'll start with this Antique Shrocho thing. I was flipping around the other day, channel surfing the boob tube. Is that what you call television? It is. Yeah, pretty sassy.

Pretty sassy, Jordan. Yeah, I'll call the TV whatever whatever i don't give a shit i honestly just watch documentaries on netflix sure yes exactly don't even have a television love love that take it's one of my favorite takes i always love it when someone says that to me can't get enough of people saying they don't watch tv they just watch documentaries on netflix anyway uh so i so I stopped on the road show. I was having a nice time watching the Antiques Roadshow. I'm not a huge fan like you are, Jesse, but it was definitely on around my house growing up,

and I do recognize that it is one of these shows that relaxes people. It is the most PBS, PBS thing's a it's a ton of fun you see a lot of local weirdos and it's it's fun when someone's you know doodad is worth a lot of money i love that gotta love those local weirdos it's a it's a real vibe yeah something i really appreciate about the antiques road show is uh a dad in shorts he, he got on, he was like, oh God, I hope I get on television today. I'm wearing my shorts. With my cell phone clipped to the belt.

Legs glistening. But my number one favorite category of guy on the Antiques Roadshow is a sweet-tempered provincial homosexual. Like, you don't, you learn what a sweet gay guy is who's from Fargo. You know what I mean? Love it. Love those guys.

So I was watching the roadshow, and you know how, you know, TV shows want, you know, people to engage with the show online, you know, second screen and all that. So, you know, you'll throw up a hashtag so people can talk about the show online and the one that the antiques roadshow threw hashtag world's worst mark walberg it was hashtag junk in the trunk i need to follow that hashtag now i was gonna do some research i social media like, we're gonna own this one. I panicked, because I panicked for whoever the PBS social media intern is, because, and yeah, it's like one of these, you know, it's like, it would, it seems like a classic, like,

social media faux pas from someone who doesn't understand it, you know? Like, it would be, like, like if boston market like had organic chicken and their hashtag to promote it was like big natural breasts or something heavy hangers rotisserie chicken yeah it hit it just did and i'm like this hashtag they're you know who you know the five people or whatever tweeting about antiques road show are just gonna go on it and they're just gonna see you know ample butts and hey you know that's a great thing to see but maybe not something listen if you're looking for armoires or something and you get a and you get a healthy a healthy dumpus in the face. Right?

This ain't what you signed up for. I don't know. I think it brings a little zip to the operation. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, who's not looking for a good dumpus in their face every now and then? Yeah. I think we all long for a dumpus. Yeah.

I mean, now more than ever That's the American dream isn't it The white picket fence The dumpus in the face And if you're Cody's family Three kinds of chicken in the pot Yeah that's what we fall for I just want to back up real quick

And say I love having a warmed up Leftover from a restaurant In with your home cooking that fucking rules oh yeah you know you feel like you're doing good because you're not throwing food out but really like no you know you're actually making use of it but you get to eat the real good food first and kfc keeps man kfc keeps great kfc is a great next day food yeah it's really hard yeah we've had it for like five days and it still tasted good. So I don't know what they're doing in there, but we support you. What happens is you go into the KFC and KFC is both good and a little gross.

Yeah, as it should be. But it is my favorite of the not good fast food. May I ask what the other names on that list would be? If you could indulge me. Basically all of them except for like in and out all right like in and out i would say is pretty good yeah like i i i like eating in and out for real without you know and i would say your top two not good fast foods for me would be probably kfc and taco bell yeah i agree with that i'm with that like taco bell is gross but i do Not good fast foods for me would be probably KFC and Taco Bell.

Yeah, I agree with that. I'm with that. Like Taco Bell is gross, but I do enjoy eating it the occasions that I eat it. Whereas like if I go to Carl's Jr. and I eat something, I'm going to be like, oh, this is fucking disgusting. I wish I had just not eaten. Whereas KFC I kind of like, you know, like it's gross and it makes me feel sick, but I do kind of enjoy eating it. I mean, Popeye's is about as good, maybe a little better. Yeah, that's top tier.

Yeah, Popeye's rules. But a fast food fried chicken is something that I will not turn away. I will try to avoid pursuing it because it will make me sick, but i will not turn it away gotcha i respect that a picnic whatnot so i i was so shocked at this junk in the trunk thing and just side note the thing that they were appraising when the hashtag came up was a woman was trying to get a price for her grandfather's time out chair so it's like a wooden chair that her grandfather sat in to get a time out and i'm just like that fucking thing's haunted there's no way it's not haunted yeah i don't like that there's a there's some demonic energy encased in that time out chair yeah a ghost in one of those

pointy dunce hats yeah i actually watch jordan you know this but i like to watch the uk antiques road show in addition to the American Antiques Roadshow Oh it's the British show, that's what they call it right? That's the title yeah And their hashtag is rubbish in the fanny Oi antiques innit? Oi constable We've got some rubbish in the fanny

You know our English friend Sarah Morgan listens to this show She's gotta be Really steamed with us right now If any. You know, our English friend Sarah Morgan listens to this show. She's got to be really steamed with us right now. Yeah, so I was watching and they were doing, it was a beautiful, it was a woman who brought in a beautiful piece of Murano glass. And they flashed, they also do hashtags. They flashed a hashtag on the screen. It was hashtag honky tonk badonkadonk. Yeah, I could see how maybe that would cause some confusion. Let me add that to my list. Hashtag honky-tonk badonkadonk. Oh. Yeah. I could see how maybe that would cause some confusion.

May I add that to my list? I mean, I don't see how it's even antique-related, although it is a somewhat dated reference. So I jumped on the hashtag, you know, because I was afraid for this PBS person. And also, you know, I'm okay. I wanted to kind of see about the dumpuses as well. Yeah, you got to do some investigating. So I did hashtag junk in the trunk.

And then for scrolling down Twitter, page after page after page of people talking about that episode of the Antiques Roadshow. No one was talking about butts. Everyone was just tweeting along with the Antiques Roadshow. No one was talking about butts. Everyone was just tweeting along with the Antiques Roadshow with the hashtag junk in the trunk. Oh, wow. That's so awesome. Who would have thought? Yeah.

That is extraordinary. I don't know. I guess people just like love to, I guess maybe it's just like people who still watch live TV are watching Antiques Roadshow. And also they're, but they've also learned to use social media along with it. Fascinating.

Yeah, and they're highly active on Twitter. Who would have thought? That's beautiful. I feel like that is really beautiful. It is. Yeah, I actually love to see that. I didn't get to see the dumpest, which was a little bit of a bummer, but yes, it was a beautiful moment.

You know what I was thinking the other day? I should be the host of the Antiques Roadshow. Oh, boy. Why am I not, though? Who's so great? Who's so great that they're the host of the Antiques Roadshow and it's not me? It's not Mark L. Wahlberg. He's not the host anymore.

It basically doesn't have a host anymore. There's just like a little voiceover. Yeah. Oh, they've streamlined that, bad boy. They cut out the fat like, we don't need no host. Let's let these weirdos just be weird. Right. It's like the Oscars now. I could do fun segments like fiona bruce does on the uk one

there's one where the there's the the expert brings three things and you have to say what's the expensive one what's the cheap one and what's the medium one i could play that game and i'd fly to fucking boise i don't give a shit here i come boise it's fun let's check out your record stores have boise idaho jesse and i don't want to like i mean i don't want to like i'm not here to body shame anybody okay here we go it's the last thing i want to do all bodies are beautiful but have you thought that maybe they're looking for someone with a little more junk in the truck they need someone who's dummy thick all i have is this honky tonk but don't get uh okay question two cody you you are an anime fan to the point where you do an anime podcast correct that is correct the dark we podcast with my boy birdie reed we talk about anime and a bunch

of the nerdy adjacent stuff hashtag in a plug oh i worked with birdie reed he's a good guy oh yeah he's a sweetie i love him i love him how so have you been like an anime fan since like you were a kid did you watch like i don't i guess i don't know exactly how old you are but did you watch like robotech and stuff i think they all watch dragon ball z right oh yeah yeah oh yeah that was the one yeah i mean i like it like every other 14 year old who had a cartoon network whenever adult swim came out like that was definitely the gateway drug into uh weeb shit so like a lot of dragon ball z a lot of gundam robotech all that stuff that was uh on basically anything that played on cartoon network adult swim between like 2000 to 2005 i was definitely watching it jordan did you know that there's

baseball animes yeah like sports anime oh animes. Oh, yeah, yeah. That seems like something I should be into. Like, I'm a nerd, right? But I'm artsy. I could like anime, except for not watching it or liking it. But I love baseball, so I should watch a baseball anime. Yeah, I don't know a baseball anime off the top of my head, although I know there are ones.

But there is a basketball one called Slam Duck that is very, very funny. It's from the 80s. Good name. The 80s, early 90s. They're all into Nikes and shit. Everyone's Japanese, but there's one Japanese guy that they inexplicably make look like a black person. He has a nice face. He's got big lips.

It's very problematic, but it's also very funny watching it in hindsight. I can't say that basketball is my favorite sport, but I do like the way they dribble up and down the court. Well, that's most of the game. So you like at least 50% of the game right there. I have been slowly just in a world where we're all looking for something to watch on the fucking TV. I'm slowly trying to inject a little bit of anime into my TV watching. Oh, hell yeah i really like watching anime movies but for some reason the tv shows uh i have a hard time clicking with the

episodic tv maybe because their pace is a little it's a little different than like yeah western tv pace is trash and also you have to go sometimes they have like 900 episodes you're like there's no way i'm going to dedicate myself to 900 episodes of anything. Yeah. Right. It is really like sitting down and saying like, I'm going to see what this Mary Tyler Moore is all about. Yeah.

Cut to season 27. Yeah. It does sort of, there is a certain amount of commitment that can only be made by, you know, an empty life to teen. Yeah. Like an,

an 18 year oldifed teen. Yeah. Like an 18-year-old with no job. That is a person who can commit to a 500-episode anime series. Yeah, look, at 16, I was playing Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, and I don't mean just, like, beating the missions. I mean, I would, like, so I would take my character, I would dress him up as, like, a biker, I would steal a motorcycle, and then I would find a group of, like, NPCs driving motorcycles, and I would dress him up as like a biker. I would steal a motorcycle. And then I would find a group of like NPCs driving motorcycles.

And I would just follow them for hours throughout the desert. Like that's what I would do when I was like 16. So like I had plenty of time to dedicate to a 200 episode anime. So one of them that, you know, a lot of like anime fans will talk about getting into Attack on Titan. Yeah. anime fans will talk about getting into uh attack on titan yeah and this is a show set in a kind of a steampunk medieval setting and where nude giants eat people who have bad lives yeah am i am i describing that correctly that's that's that's pretty much the distilled version of uh of the show uh i will say that it is definitely one of the i mean it is

very bizarre sure like you said there's like a bunch of nude goofy looking giants running around but i will say it is one of the few shows that actually uh like scares me when i watch it like i do fear a tinge of fear when i do watch the show i think because it's such bizarre visuals like there's a basically it's like a bunch of like giant nude veiny giants running around eating people are their bodies veiny or are there cranks uh no they're they're uh they're like they're crankless no cranks yeah they're smooth as eggs down there so they don't even they don't have cranks or vaginas no they got nothing you know they they uh i think it all sort of melts off i'm not i'm not sure the physiology of that i guess i need to do a deep

dive on Wikipedia, but they don't have the cranks or bolts down there. It would be less creepy if they had genitalia. I think the lack of genitalia definitely bothers me a little bit. Jordan, can I ask? Cody and Jordan, both of you guys have seen this show. I haven't seen it. Do they have buttholes oh I don't know

they have butts I don't think they do because later on in the show they sort of talk about the physiology and they're like they don't even technically digest these people they just eat them and then throw them up later so I don't think they even have a digestive system it seems like so I guess there would be

no bunghole if I had to man i had to like make an educated guess right i haven't gotten to the uh explanation of the giants digestive track so you should have said spoiler alert oh it's very thrilling don't worry you'll love it and yeah that is kind of the thing with the show is that it you know you you do get these kind of like action-packed episodes where they're like cutting down these giants with their hydraulic jet pack things. Yeah. And then an episode will just be about a military trial.

And that's the whole episode. Yeah, well, somebody got court-martialed. You got to cover it. And they'll do training, but it won't even be fun training. It'll be like, this is how you operate this particular mechanic of your suit. And you're like, oh, well, I guess I but it won't even be like fun training. It'd be like, this is how you operate this particular mechanic, mechanic of your suit. And you're like, oh, well, I guess I'm dedicating 22 minutes to this right now. And I think that like, I do have that same kind of complaint about some, you know, Western TV is that like prestige TV just feels like a movie they cut up, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or a lot of it does. So, yeah. So like, this is kind of that same thing about like, I don't feel like I've've watched an episode i felt like i watched a little part of a movie and i just stopped randomly i'll i'll say also a unique thing about that show is that like as far as i can tell there has not been a single dignified death on the entire show everyone dies screaming for their life like no one never like no one closed their eyes and passes on to like the great hereafter. It's always like clawing

and screaming as they're being eaten alive by giants. And then sometimes they turn into a giant. Oh boy. Yeah, there's a, yeah, there's a whole lot

going on in that show. But I do recommend it. I very much enjoy it. When you turn into a giant, does your junk fall off like a giant sequoia sheds its limbs in a forest fire? It is a lot like that, yes.

You do become unitless. Thanks. I just want to store all this up for when December rolls around. The cool shit in that show is so fucking cool, though. Yeah. The music. Yeah. Oh, the music.

That theme song. I put the theme song on. I have like a, I've started running. I have a running playlist and I put the Attack on Titan theme on my running playlist. Always fucking gets me juiced. Yeah. It's a great show to get hype. If I was still a 16-year-old kid, I would probably be losing my shit every time that

show came on. Yeah. Cody, what is your top anime that you enjoy that doesn't have anything to do with magic powers or robots or action fights? Do you watch any courtroom drama animes or anything? You know what? I don't think I do. I think the closest, I mean, it's not a fun movie but it's

very very well made um uh grave of the fireflies it's a really really great um frequent jordan jesse go reference oh yeah that's the only anime thing i've seen it's a real romp it's very fun uh it's uh i i really i really enjoy that um it's it's something that i can only watch maybe once every couple years just because it's such a heavy heavy flick but uh i i remember watching that in um one just being shook because like you know it's like one of the first it's like you know traditionally as westerners like we watch cartoons we think we're like oh this is going to be uh donald duck or shrek or whatever but then you see these kids sort of wilt away like you see people die by firebombing you're like oh wow animation can be

used to talk about adult things very very adult things i don't think my 16 year old mind was necessarily equipped to handle that type of information at that point yeah that is some really extreme i mean i think as somebody who bought comic books in the late 80s and early 1990s, when everything at the comic book store, Al's Comics, by the way, on Guerrero Street. Shout out, Al. Yeah, shout out to Al. He was very grumpy. You know, all the comic books were just really putting their shoulders down and bulldozing into the topic of, you know, comic books aren't just for kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They were just doing it with graphic violence. Like, occasionally shitty satire, but shitty satire and graphic violence were the main media for comics are not just for kids. violence where the main media for comics are are not just for kids um and i feel like i feel like grave of the fireflies is like the next level shit on that continue it's a beautiful film like it's actually really good it's i don't know whether you know the comic book character lobo who was always cutting off people's heads and then like saying something with the sh word in it or whatever yeah uh was good or not I was 10 years old at the time but uh but like grave the fireflies is a very beautiful film but it's as though they were like well we should make something that proves that anime can be for adults and then the other guy at the meeting is like yeah

maybe like something about some people going through a difficult divorce. And then the other guy goes, what about a movie about children dying from radiation poisoning? Cut the chick. And then there's just silence in the room for 10 minutes and they just go, okay, okay, okay.

That ought to do it. You boys about to win those Oscars. Yeah what would you cody to your like are there any deep cuts that you recommend to someone who's like i want to give anime a shot but not but i don't exactly know where to go yeah are you looking for tv shows or movies or just any anything yeah what's your tv show rec for for me i want i want an episodic thing uh yeah you know this isn't necessarily a deep cup it's actually a wildly popular show but like you know i'm i'm a huge obviously i'm a nerd like i really love comic books and stuff superhero stuff so like they're whenever i see like uh eastern interpretations of like traditionally like western superheroes like that's always interesting to me so like i highly recommend the show one punch man um it's very very

funny it's got a very um very satirical outlook basically the premise is there's a guy named one punch man and he can defeat anybody with one punch and he's been doing it for so long that he's sort of burnt out on being a superhero and he's trying to find like his next his new lease in life and like trying to find the ultimate opponent it's very very funny it's a very funny uh send up of like all the tropes of um not only just like anime but also like also superhero comic books and superhero movies and stuff like that. And a nice companion piece to that is actually another sort of superhero-adjacent show called My Hero Academia. It's basically an anime X-Men, basically.

All the characters are nice. They're all wholesome. They all just want to do the best that they can in the world and help their friends. And having spent the past four years in this whole hole where everyone is just sort of looking out for themselves, it's been nice to watch a show that sort of actively champions for the idea of the collectivism as opposed to the individual, which is I've been trying to get into more media that sort of hammers that message home, the idea of doing something for the greater good as opposed to doing something for yourself and like that show's been a really great um a really great thing to like pass the time and also sort of like

watch some some wholesome media that does hammer home the idea of like maybe it's not a bad idea to like sacrifice for yourself to help to help your friends and to help the community. Cody, that's a very beautiful sentiment. You had me at it's X-Men, but with blank. Yes, sure, sure. Is it X-Men? Buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. Yeah, I'll buy it. Yeah, let's do it.

Jordan, and I know that you were asking me before we went on the air for some recommendations on Japanese men's fashion magazines to buy on Japanese Amazon. My recommendation to you is to check out Popeye, the magazine for city boys. Sounds great. You're welcome. Has anybody watched Princess Mononoke lately? Yes, actually. I watched it like two months ago when I got HBO Go.

I watched a couple of Miyyazaki's uh films because they had so collections on there man me too that shit's so good rules it's like that in toy story that's that's as good as animation gets i think my only thought uh i think the the english dubs are not that good it seems like they just sort of get famous people who don't necessarily give a shit about really acting for uh animation so you'll have like Keith Sutherland or whoever, not Keith Sutherland, Michael Keaton, who was sort of like mumbling his way through the movie.

And you're like, hey, you could just hire an 80s schlub and they would have probably cared more than like a millionaire who's already a movie star. I started Princess Mononoke with my kids, but it was a little too intense right at the beginning. Yeah. It's a little,

it's a little, a little violent right at the beginning yeah it's a little it's a little a little violent yeah right now i'm i'm mostly just watching totoro over and over but i'd watch totoro basically as many times as is necessary a lot of totoro is great you might also enjoy uh kiki delivery service that's a pretty wholesome kid friendly one oh kiki's delivery service is great and phil hartman does when I know we're talking about how the voices are, the American voices are sometimes crummy, but Phil Hartman is in it and gives a, and just is fucking great. It's like a magic cat, right? A magical cat.

Yeah. Yeah, it rules. Great. What a great person to be a magic cat. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, granted, that's another thing like X-Men, but if that I will just like, oh, a magic cat that talks like phil hartman

sure like yeah sign me up yeah i'll take lionel hunt as a cat i don't care yeah i mean i i feel like kiki's delivery service in the world of children's phil hartman vehicles it's sort of the japanese small soldiers yeah that it features phil hart. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Just Phil Hartman's in it. Yes, I think so. It's not seasonal, like Jingle All the Way or whatever, you know? You got to earn it. I think that the quintessential bad American person that they got to do a VO in one of those Miyazaki movies

has got to be Billy Bob Thornton in Princess Mononoke. Oh, yeah, yeah. He just does not give a shit. That is the, that is the too beeriest performance. Yeah. Yeah.

You can tell that he did that, he said like he did that in like one three-hour session. He was like, we're doing one take. I got my car stills on outside revving in the parking lot. I got to get out of here.

I got to go meet Angelina. So let's wrap this thing up. I thought Mini Driver's great in that though Mini Driver's performance I think is is pretty terrific anyway

yeah Mini Driver good in everything good in everything yeah you love to see her you do it's true

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It's Jordan, Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart jordan morris boy detective cody zucker the people's champ um jordan you'll recall this from last week cody you weren't here you were spiritually i was there but not physically thank you yes watching over us like a guardian angel one punch man um we asked america we first of all we view our show secondarily as a comedy podcast and first and foremost a celebration of america's mail service the united states postal service heroes all of them especially oni the postal dog a taxidermy dog that's has a vest covered in metals given to it by postal workers,

but also the human living postal workers who comprise the network that delivers our mail, even to the most rural Americans. And so, Brian, what did we ask mail carriers to call in with? Uh, just weird experiences they've had or things that have happened to them on the job because they're probably, or as they've been listening to the show, because they probably listened to the show while they're walking around delivering mail. Yeah. So mail carriers go to all different people's houses. Uh, they have what are called routes and on those roots are many homes and businesses.

Lay it out for me. And so in a lot of ways, they're visiting a lot of people. And, you know, I don't know if you know this about people, Cody, but some of them are weirdos. I've heard that. Or they have weird pets or weird houses or weird businesses. Yeah, a lot of freaks out there. So, yes, Well, sure. Freaks come in all shapes, sizes, and colors, as Houdini taught us.

Jesse, when exactly do they come out? Let's see. Let me think about this. Typically, when do the freaks come out? Yeah. So, let's see. What I like about freaks is that they're really good lovers. Right.

They come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Oh, I know. The freaks come out at night. That's when they come out. That's when they come out. There you go. God. When and why did rappers move away from rhythmic exclamatory laughter?

One of the best parts of early hip hop. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of like this, you know, they say the elements of hip hop are graffiti writing, b-boying, beatboxing, DJing, and rapping. But what about rhythmic exclamatory laughter? Rhythmic exclamatory clanned laughter. Where's that at?

Yeah. So anyway, they go to different places. They see all kinds of freaks. And we were interested in learning a little bit about this from our postal carrier friends. So Brian, we've got some calls. Why don't you play one? Hi, Jordan, Jesse, Sonny D, and guests.

I'm listening to the podcast, asking for mail carriers to call in. Currently serving some apartment cluster boxes. I live in Mississippi. Moved down here to get married to my boyfriend, now husband. I used to live in Michigan, and I'm not sure about the wackiest, wildest occasion, but I am always startled when I pull into someone's neighborhood house to serve them mail and give them a package and find a large pig walk up and greet me. Hope y'all are doing well. a nice day that rules yeah fuck yeah love to get a visit from a pig hell yeah god

have you seen the dumpuses on those things a dump stick yes oink oink have have either have either one of you done any type of delivery delivery job or anything like that i don't think so no i did like i when i first moved out to la i was a pa in a time you know right before the internet was a thing that everyone had so i like i delivered a lot of like hard copy scripts and like um dvds of dailies to people uh i think that was the that's the closest thing i've done to delivering by people jordan means fran drescher yeah i did i delivered scripts to fran drescher and she would always give me a water bottle oh very nice of her nice lady class act and a and an incredible talent if you ask me i drove i was a field election deputy for the city of San Francisco. So on election days, I would work like 18, 20, 22 hours driving around a special van full of election stuff from polling place to polling place.

Cody, have you? Yeah, I delivered food pretty regularly throughout my early college years. But that story reminds me of I was delivering food, I think in this town called like lewisfield or clements this is small like sort of like suburb uh in north carolina but i remember turning on this dirt road and driving for seemed like for fucking ever like i pulled to this house and i hand her this lady her chinese food and i just hear like this like a huge gobble and i turn around and there's just like a field full of like like almost like cartoonishly large turkeys. Like,

you know, when you think of like the traditional, like Turkey, like the, the turkeys that are sort of like pardoned by the president, there's like these big ass birds. And there's just like maybe half a dozen turkeys just like walking around on her front lawn.

And this lady was like, Oh yeah, these are my pet turkeys. Like I don't kill them or anything. I just have them. And they just sort of hang out on my property. I was like, okay, cool. Thanks property. I was like, okay, cool.

Thanks, lady. They are like terrifying animals up close. They're huge. And I remember the first time seeing one as a kid, I was so shocked because it didn't look like my hand. Yeah, it was three-dimensional. Yeah. It was very straight, very off-putting. Weird, right? You can't trust what they teach you in school, dude. Yeah. It was very straight, very off-putting. Weird, right? You can't trust what they teach you in school, dude.

Yeah. You can't, yeah. These people are just trying to get fucking, you know, they're just trying to brainwash you. They're trying to- Turn me into a fucking sheep, man. Bunch of liberal cucks teaching up all this liberal agenda. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaking of which, I would love to have a sheep. That would be nice. That would be nice. There's pretty much, there's, I'm having a hard time, honestly, thinking of an animal that I wouldn't like to have wandering around my property. Yeah. That'd be lovely. I think a peacock would be pretty rad.

A peacock would be great. Living that arboretum lifestyle. Come on. They do do, don't they, I mean, they're like random shriekers though, right? Like, isn't that the thing with the peacock is that they're so majestic but you know at four in the morning they'll just shriek you might be thinking of goats or murder victims yeah yeah murder victims will shriek yeah um but i think peacocks are shriekers anyway that's why I don't get one. Very, very long time Jordan Jesse Go listeners will remember when this happened, but my wife's

cousin once dropped off his pig at our house for babysitting. I'm already hucking to this story. I can't wait to hear this. And A, pigs are very smart creatures and they're very good pets. Yeah. But they bond very tightly with their owners and they bite the shit out of me. But more than that, I would say we had probably, this was probably almost 10 years ago, and we had just moved into our house. And this pig was in our backyard for two nights just screaming like a human.

Screaming and crying like a human. Help. Help. Call the police. I am quite confident that every one of my neighbors thought I was murdering someone. Yeah, it was very, very difficult, but a very cute pig. I mean, pigs are cute. They're cute. Let's take

one more call from a postal carrier. Hey, my name's Tony. I was just listening, and you said for a postal order to call. I'm not a carrier. This isn't a crazy thing that happened,

but this, we have the sweetest little old man who comes and gets his mail from us out of his box every single day. Calls me by my name, says, hello, Mr. Tony. I go get his mail out of his little PO box for him. Sweetest old man. One day he came in and he's having so much trouble with the DMV in California. He hit a car, I don't know, something about a car or something, couldn't get the paperwork right.

And then he just started breaking down and crying because he couldn't get the paperwork. He's 94 years old and he doesn't even understand it. And it was so sad. and understand it. And it was so sad. And then, so I just brought him over to the, I had to get in my car and go bring him over to the little place down the street that does the DMV work,

like, you know, a title place, to help him out. And he came back and he put down a chocolate bar. I'm so proud of him. You know, it have a great day. Man, which one is better? Because they're both 10 out of 10. To have someone bring you a chocolate bar, an unexpected chocolate bar,

or to have someone call you Mr. First Name. Those are both just as good as it fucking gets yeah yeah those are great oh to have someone call me mr jesse my dry cleaner just calls me morris and i like that a lot i've never been i've never had it like a i've never had like a coach or anything call me by just my last name and just my dry cleaner does it and i'm i love it i'm all about it hey it's morris hey everyone talks yeah that is that is wonderful get that dry cleaner assigned eight by ten jordan i know he yeah i know it does not have the the typical la eight by tens but i think who better to start the tradition than with me a guy who has an upsetting recurring YouTube character.

What are my other accomplishments? You should have one of those multi-panel. Right, where you show your range. And it's one shot of you in Sandra Bullock's least successful film. Right. One of you in your brief appearance on uh what's that soap opera called that that you're on that's very very popular scandal yes scandal so one shot of you as the as like the tabloid newspaper publisher on scandal one shot of you as cotton candy randy and then one shot of you as the surfer dude in the fritz coleman commercial row ride for the local weather yeah and then just a stamp that says bad career it could be one of those big rubber stamps ka-chunk yeah it doesn't have to say bad career

it could say successful writer sure yeah i should say successful writer yeah has a podcast no not like joe rogan i'm still throwing wide the doors for any postal worker who wants to call us at 206-9844-FUN or jjgoatmaximumfun.org and you know what else jordan i'm adding bus drivers. Oh, expanded. And you know what? UPS, DHL, FedEx, you're into. The private sector, you're invited. Yo, that's a hard... I was a UPS delivery helper for one season, and it was hands down the hardest, worst job I've ever had in my life.

The hardest and worst. Yeah. That's interesting because I've definitely heard that it's hard. Yeah. worst yeah that's interesting because i have heard i've definitely heard that it's hard yeah but uh i had an aunt who was uh who worked for fedex and it was career for fedex and she really liked i mean she was very hyper competent like i feel like it's a great job if you're a hard working hyper competent and uh didn't go to college and you can still make pretty good money yeah i'm only one of those things so i was was not, uh, I was not hardworking and I was barely competent. I needed money for like to buy

Christmas gifts. I was like, yeah, I'll do a temporary job, like helping delivery, deliver UPS. It can't be, can't be that hard. Right. You just like take boxes, but no, you have to wake up at like 6.00 AM to call the UPS center and be like, hey, do you have any routes that need to be helped today? And they're like, yeah, cool, do it. So like, you know, you get in your car or you get in the truck, you know, you go drive to some parking lot, random parking lot in the middle of nowhere. And a UPS truck shows up maybe 15 minutes later. And then you hop in and like you sit and like, so like you have the one seat, like the regular driver's seat. And then like you have your seat, the helper seat, which is like maybe 12 inches below.

like you have your seat the helper seat which is like maybe 12 inches below so you already feel like you're a kid with like your dad like just driving around to like to like your grandparents or some shit like that but like it's just non-stop work like it's just like you're running around these neighborhoods it's hard work you're lifting heavy ass packages up and down hills like you got like navigate shitty people's dogs and like i like hats off like i respect them like i i i worked for three weeks and then i quit on the spot because i was so tired from running up hills all day you're just like 21 days yeah i i had 21 parts of uh life energy i spent one each day the end i got paid weekly so i had three paycheck paychecks i'm like yo i'm good i'm too fat for this i'm going home see you peace people

should not have pigs at their homes you said yeah turkeys are okay pigs no i have to say this on the subject of bus drivers one time a couple years ago i was at the gas station not to brag but it was usa gas oh no foreign gas for me. I'll pay the premium. I'm a Sinclair man, like the little dinosaur on the logo. It's a great fucking dino, man. It is a great dino. It really looks like,

it looks like the dinosaur from, it's such a classic dinosaur, like the dinosaur from Pee-wee's Big Adventure. It really is. I was pumping gas at the gas station and there's a bus stop gas at the gas station and there's a bus stop right at the gas station there and a bus pulled in the doors open no one got on or off but the driver said hey jesse thorne i have i have not felt more like a fucking king ass celebrity like a

high emperor celebrity than to be recognized by by a bus driver that was the thrill of my life they're heroes they're real they're american heroes and you're a hero to you're a hero to the bus driver jesse so that makes you a double hero i don't know i think i'm a i think he just recognizes a peer. He and I are both cool dudes with sweet gigs. You've both dined together at the Heroes Club. Yeah. There was this bus driver I used to take.

I sang in a community chorus when I was in elementary school. Again, not to brag. And to get to the community music center we would take the 49 van ness mission bus from discovery center school that's a good bus uh great bus i mean a lot of people will tell you that it's better to take the the 14 mission um and certainly the 14l the 14 limited that's going to be a little faster but the 49 is great because it goes all the way to baboa park anyway um the 49 van ness mission we would catch after school uh me and abe and josh bingham the twins and um i think my friend pete was in that chorus too we go see oars the chorus master and uh about one in three times, we would get this one kind of handsome middle-aged driver who wore a beret. The Muni bus outfits in San Francisco, they're brown, but they have a real 1971 dignity to them.

And one of the cool things about them is one of the optional headgears is a beret. That's dope. I'm so into this. And this dude would wear the beret. You'd rarely see somebody wearing the beret, but once in a while, and this guy always wore the beret and he would do this thing where he'd see

us getting on the bus. And, you know, this is a group of, I guess we were probably nine years old. Um, us getting on the bus and you know this is a group of i guess we were probably nine years old um and he would put his hand over the fare box and just give us one of those go ahead on it this one yeah this one's go ahead on end yeah it was it was wonderful it was he was the cool black uncle i never had just gorgeous just gorgeous letting us on then then we could buy now and laters with our bus money jordan oh that's a good candy yeah it's the best of the 25 cent candies there's no doubt

about that yeah there's no no competition you can tell me all day about cherry clans or whatever but pound sand tootsie rolls yeah honestly one of the trash candies even Even Tootsie Pop. Yeah. Cody, top under a buck candy? Oh, God. I would say those, I mean, it's maybe a controversial opinion, but those little sweet, the little tarts, the little roll of tarts, I'm a big fan of those, I got to say. And the fireball. The fireball.

I kind of like those, too. As a kid, I liked anything that you could suck into as a kid i liked anything that you could uh that you could suck into oblivion i liked anything that you could and i know some people are going to snicker at that because it sounds dirty well i just want to say i'm ashamed of all of you i'm talking about sucking a tart till it doesn't exist anymore maybe you want to listen to one of those dirty podcasts we keep it clean here on Jordan, Jessica. We have a little respect for our audience. Yeah.

And if you thought that I was talking about anything other than a candy when I said I like to suck into oblivion, you're fucking nasty. You're fucking nasty. I know what time of day you're listening to this because you are a freak. Yeah. You're listening to. I know what time of day you're listening to this because you are a freak. Yeah.

You're listening to it in the daytime because at night you're going to be going out. Yeah, at night you got to go out. Find lovers. You're nasty. Locate lovers. Nasty. God, you're so nasty listening to this. Bad boys. You're so nasty.

Bad boys. Naught so nasty. Bad boys. Naughty girls. Oh, you know what? I'm going to call you Miss Jackson because you are nasty. Sure, yeah. Nasty. Nasty listeners. Nasty.

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Yeah. Listen, if you want us to continue the segment, just hit us up on Twitter with the hashtag Junk in the trunk. Okay, before we close this segment out, let's take one regular momentous occasion, because we're going to be dealing with these calls from DHL. We're going to be dealing with these calls from FedEx, UPS, the United Parcel Service, USPS, the United States Postal Service. Heck, we might even get a call from one of those guys that wears the blue Amazon vest.

I can't promise it, but let's take a momentous occasion now. Hey, Joran, Jesse, and guests. So I've been listening to your back episodes, and this is from April when you asked for any of the vampire Larkers to call in with a ridiculous story about sex at game. So here's mine. I am playing a Ventrue and Vampire Requiem, which means nothing to you, but I guarantee you a good amount of your listeners know exactly what I'm doing. And I'm playing a bisexual vampire.

Yeah, we'll pause it for a second. Are you suggesting our listeners are nerds? How dare you? No, I think he... How dare you, sir? I think he's suggesting that our listeners are nasty. They're nasty. Oh, wow.

I think some of them are, unfortunately. Kennedy, let's hear the end of this, Brian. And I'm talking to a married couple and between games we do um email scenes and one of the email scenes turned into erotica between our three characters oh yeah and i am a straight male but they invited me over to continue the scene and I thought why the hell not so long story short uh the Venture's power is they can tell people what to do and they have to do it so I had my first MM threesome or MMF threesome that night and it was the first time i've ever messed around with the mail because i really got into character and so today so i guess a moment uh a momentous occasion depends on your

the way you look at it with was it lame to do that as a character or was it awesome? Love you guys. Bye. Love you too. And Jordan and Cody, I don't know if you guys know all of the sex lingo. I do not. I'm not nasty. Yeah. An MNF threesome is where you have sex with

Al Michaels and John Madden. Oh, yeah. You've heard that, yeah. The play-by-play and color guy from Monday Night Football. Yeah, you gotcha. Here, I'm actually searching MMF on Twitter, and it's just pictures of steamer trunks. Just vintage steamer trunks that are getting appraised. I don't know what's all this about.

What did this guy do? Yeah. I searched steamer and junk in the trunk, and I got some stuff that I would rather not have seen. Have you ever LARPed or have you messed around with anything that requires costuming or acting? Surprisingly, no, that is not my nerd lane, although I know I have plenty of friends who do LARP. I've never personally done it. They were LARPing, and then they went over to this other people's house.

Like, that was the story, right? Like, they weren't playing, like, a video game. They were, like, LARPing. That's what he said. They were LARPing initially. Then they were sending in-character erotic emails. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

It's multimedia. Yeah. Two-screen experience. Yeah. Then, of course, that naturally led to uh just regular you know that's right as hell to be honest with you that sounds cool as shit yeah that fucking yeah way to go that rules dude yeah yeah i think you were wondering we were wondering our opinion if it's it was if it was lame because you were doing it as a larp or if it ruled i i think it rules yeah i think maybe you're a method actor. Maybe that's the train of thought.

I don't know. Yeah, sure. We support you anyway. That sounds rad as hell. I think we've all wanted to fuck Al Michaels in our time. I'm more of a Madden dude, but I'll take either one, to be honest with you. Madden gets out that fucking telestrator. How can you not be into it?

Sure, yeah. You know he's got a dump. You know he's got a thick old booty. Oh, John Madden. John Madden is a freak. Get on the bus, baby. I hear he's so thick he's going to start hosting Antiques Roadshow. They call it the turducken.

His butt. That's what they call his butt, the turducken. Sure. 206-984-4FUN or JJGO at MaximumFun.org. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse Go. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. I can remember as a child thinking it was odd that here was this can full of meat. I'm Jesse Thorne. This week on my show Bullseye, David Letterman on shame, regret, and canned hams. Is this the best delivery version of pork?

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Cody Ziegler, aka Black Samson Oh, did something happen? Does Samson have all his power in his hair yeah that's his thing and i haven't cut my hair in many many years although you couldn't tell it because i have not also have not had it professionally uh done up in since covid so that's where i'm coming from what what are your top what are your top dues you know really i've just been rocking you know a really really bad afro but I think I'm going to do an Odell Beckham. I think that's the Odell Beckham Jr.

He's got a nice little thing going on, like some blonde dyed, like the top of it, but the side of it is sort of like, what's the word? It sort of tapers down from blonde to brown. I think that's the next move whenever we are allowed back in the barbershops. If it's long enough my recommendation to you is to just go 80 stevie wonder get the beads on it yeah get a jerry crow throw some beads in there change the whole game you might be on to something yeah i know i'm on to something i mean if you're not going to go drew down i think the answer is 80 stevie wonder let me put that in my back pocket uh cody i don't know if you can talk about it or if you know but

when's that fucking she hulk show coming out i uh i can't talk about it but i also don't know so like i got a twofer for you um i i have no idea when any of that stuff is is going down because honestly covet hit like right in the middle of when we're writing so like we all sort of sort of writing from home um know everything been pushed back with marvel so i have i honestly have no clue but like i can't wait to watch it whenever they whenever it comes out whenever that may be i don't want to get into your whatever ndas you've signed or pressure you into revealing anything but uh she hulk is like a lady hulk you know i'm glad that you're able to put those two things together. She is, in fact, a lady Hulk.

In the comics, she is the cousin of Bruce Banner, a.k.a. the titular Incredible Hulk. And in the comics, she gets her powers via her cousin Bruce Banner and becomes a lady Hulk. How do you get powers from your cousin? Do they, like, how do you get powers from your cousin? I think in the comics, I think in the comics it was like she was, like, the mob was after her because she's also a lawyer. I think she did some, she, like, I guess she brought down the mob and, like, some hitmen went after her and they shot her up and she needed a blood transfusion. And the only person who was, had the same type of blood was Bruce Banner. And then I think they did a blood transfusion. And through that, she got his irradiated gamma blood and became She-Hulk.

That's how she got her powers. Hell yeah. That happened to me with my cousin. That's how I got my powers as a high-powered executive assistant. Getting the best. Just really good at managing schedules and stuff. I get paid six figures to do it

because I'm so good at it, you know? Hell yeah, really good at managing schedules and stuff. I get paid six figures to do it because I'm so good at it, you know? Hell yeah, really good at getting Caesar salads. And that's why I sell commemorative coins to the NRA. We're talking about cousin jobs here. Shout out to cousins, huh? Shout out to cousins. Why you got these weird jobs? Big up cousins.

Working at the Dollar General. Yeah, Cody, when you work for a marvel show do you have to like learn you know fucking 70 years of comics continuity uh if i was not already a giant nerd you probably would have had to do that um but like i came in like um you know i'm trying to think of what i can say like basically my my lane as it were was like i was definitely like one of the comic book mcu nerds like i read you know i've been reading comics since i was a kid like i've always just been a marvel stan anyway so like i'd already watched all the movies like that was sort of

my lane so like i was like the one like that knew like all the history and like what the characters were doing what and like sort of like you know that was that was sort of my my niche um but like you definitely you know you you had full access to niche. But like you definitely, you know, you had full access to like the Marvel library at any time. So like if you wanted to read 70 years worth of comic history, you could just send an email and get it sent to you day or night. Oh shit, that's cool. Which I definitely took advantage of.

You know what I would do if I worked for the Marvel Comics Entertainment Empire? Try and raise the money to buy Firestorm the Nuclear Man. Get him, bring him over. What do you think that would cost? What do you think that would cost? I think $2,500. I think $25. And maybe a Tootsie Roll.

He's two men, technically, so do you have to pay? Are you thinking $5,000, Jordan? Yeah, I think it's $2,500 per man. $2,500 per man? Yeah. Unfortunately. It's a steal. Get him over there.

Well, Cody, it's been a delight to have you on the program. Thank you for joining us all the way from North Carolina in the middle of the night, East Coast time. We appreciate it. Anytime, guys. It was fun. Thanks for having me. Cody Ziegler, our guest on this week's program.

If you have a correction for us, we value your corrections and we appreciate them. We care about quality, so tweet them at JDPower on Twitter, hashtag it JJGo on Twitter, or what are we sharing with the hashtag Junk in the Trunk, Jordan? I don't know't know who cares how about we just post whatever with the hashtag junk in the trunk this week we'll find this week this week on twitter just share something interesting with the hashtag junk in the trunk i want all the junk in the trunk tweets you know whatever have wario in them or whatever who cares yeah whatever somebody jordan by the way somebody sent us and there was no note and no explanation and the package came from india uh but somebody sent us

you know those kind of like um uh those those welcome mats and they're made kind of out of the same kind of thing that like a uh a broom is made out of you know what i'm talking about like it's sort of like a natural like a sizzle or something like that it's like that but it has wario on it and he says welcome home can i have that yeah i want that can i have it in fact i insist you take it from me yes uh so thank you to whoever sent us that finally i have that son i've been looking for finally my own son sir you want to enroll it in pre-kindergarten i just want to make sure it has all the advantages I had.

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