Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Live at the Peppermill, with Amy Silverberg

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

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Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, the guy who read it online. Great. So we have a segment on our program, which is called, our program is called Jordan Jesse

Goh. It's a podcast. Yeah. Long runninghmm not award-winning Tolerated yeah tolerated the world over well tolerated even by diabetics or Our podcast Jordan Jesse go has a segment called I used to read it to read it to read it read it to read it and On this side it forget it read it to read it exactly on this segment of the program Jordan and I discover amazing subreddits and their content and share them with you the at-home or in transit podcast listener, you know what

You could even be at work. That's fine with me Sure I'm fine Hey Good on you for having a job in this economy. And you know what? If you're at a bowling alley or a cafe, a classic third space,

you can listen to our podcast as well. Yeah, I mean, you know, hey, maybe take out the earbuds once in a while and see the world around you. Yeah, get your nose out of your phone. Get your nose out of your phone. Stop listening to us. Get your ears out of your phone.

Stop listening to our show. Don't listen to our program. It's not worth your time. Interact. See? Anyway. But yeah, so these are fun subreddits and they kind of usually fall under the category of like a incredibly niche subreddit where the real world never comes up.

Just people who are so laser focused on one thing, usually a little bit like anachronistic. And yeah, these are like soothing places to hang out. R slash marbles, R slash root beer, these are our classic examples. And a listener was kind enough to send me, I haven't checked it out yet, but I'm looking forward to checking it out, that I should check out R slash ladders. Oh, okay. Well, stay tuned to the show for some hot ladder content. Can I just say, wish me good luck. Yeah, well as long as you don't walk under the subreddit, you're gonna be alright.

So yeah, this one got popped into my algorithm from r slash harmonica. So this is from r slash harmonica. This is a subreddit my dad would subscribe to. Oh yeah. My dad is John Popper. Oh, wow. That's cool. So you're just kind of coasting on 90s residuals.

Yeah. So for a long time, I thought my dad was Lee Thorne. Yeah, it's not. But it turns out to be John Popper. My mom met him right at the very tail end of her fecundity. I see, I see. Okay. Just as she was. The last moments of her ability to become pregnant.

And she just loves spandoliers. So this is from R slash Harmonica. She had previously dated Pancho Villa. So and Chewbacca, right? Exactly. Your mom had a little thing with Chewbacca? She did, yeah, sure. Oh, that's my mom fucking Chewbacca. Right. Yeah, your mom likes a little thing with Chewbacca? She did, yeah, sure. Ooh, that's my mom fucking Chewbacca.

Right, your mom likes a big boy. Yeah, she does. And she had a big boy. Love your mother. That's you. Anyway, if this is from art.harmonica, I don't know exactly how this got into my feed. I think Reddit, because we look at so many of these for the show, I think Reddit is confused as to who I am now.

It's like, what about this? How about this? It's a classic, like you put one spade into your cart and then all of a sudden you're a gardener on the internet, it follows you everywhere. Yeah, you spend a little time browsing r slash jam bands because one guy was complaining about how the jam band fans didn't have big enough tits yeah exactly I mean one time one time I went to r slash detectorists and jacked off to a Roman

coin that someone found and now yeah okay so this is from r slash harmonica and I'll just read the whole thing. Great. The whole subreddit? Is that the whole... Well, I'll read this one post. We've got time. And this is from R slash, this is from user clementineiscool. Can I bring my harmonica to the bar? Is it allowed or will I get in trouble?

I get in trouble. Clementine is cool is definitely two nine year olds standing on each other's shoulders wearing a trench coat. I mean, right? Has there ever been a more kids in a trench coat post. I like maybe like they think of the bar as having like a hall monitor or a teacher that is like kind of going around and looking out for people who are you know doing something against the rules. Yeah I bring a see I already know you I mean I want to hear the rest of this

post. No that's the whole post. That's the post. Okay. Yeah. I mean my experience with bringing a recorder to bars, which is what I usually do, has been pretty universally positive. I mean I- But the bar you hang out is the Hot Cross Buns. Yeah. So they're all like, alright, he's playing the song. Yeah, this is our jam. Yeah. This is our jam. One a penny, two a penny. Yeah. Drink, drink, drink. Sure. Yeah, they drink whenever you say hot cross buns. Right.

But yeah, do you think, what if you, I mean, you're not a drinker, but you've hung out in bars before socially. Yeah, I don't like a yelling bar. Yeah. That's my main rule. But a nice hang. Frankly, the sadder the bar is, the more comfortable I am in yelling bar. Yeah. That's my main rule. But a nice hang. Frankly, the sadder the bar is, the more comfortable I am in the bar.

No, that's reasonable. I think that's a reasonable position. It's a good one. I know that people are there to have fun. Sure. But when you're not drinking at the bar, you won't have fun. So the next best option is just not to be actively bothered, you know what I mean? Just to just be able to sit there and do whatever you need to do,

wish your friend happy birthday or whatever without having to yell. So let's just say, I'm just going to pick a sad bar'm here Let's say you're hanging at the HMS bounty, right? To be clear I'm hanging either for this is for Angelino's either at the HMS bounty or at Club TG Club TG Oh, yeah, another great kind of sad club TG pops off sometimes. I've seen I prefer you get a little bit rowdy Yeah, you go in there the right time. Weeknight, please. That's a nice, sad weeknight. So yeah, let's say you're hanging in at the HMS Bounty, you know, 4 p.m. on a Tuesday, and somebody just takes out a harmonica

and starts wailing, popper style. Are you like, fuck this, I'm outta here, or are you like, yeah! Is it the kind of harmonica that has a plunger on the side that you can press down and it changes keys or whatever? I cannot picture this kind of harmonica that has a plunger on the side that you can press down and it changes keys or whatever? I cannot picture this kind of harmonica. I guess I don't know enough about harmonicas. You know how there's like regular size harmonicas, then there's extra big harmonicas? No!

Okay. I thought there was only one harmonica. Come on, get your shit together. Steven, I'm looking at you here. There's, you can get a harmonica in every key basically. Yeah, but then also there's a small, like if you picture harmonica. Yeah. By the way, our guest on this program,

and I'm going to bring her in because she's already blowing her harp over there silently. She is one of our favorite past Jordan, Jesse, Go guests. Yeah. She is one of Los Angeles. I would say had a home run of a first appearance. It's one of those where you come in, you're like, OK Goh guest. She is one of Los Angeles- I would say had a home run of a first appearance. That's really true. It's one of those where you come in, you're like, okay, new guest, might take him a couple

laps to, no, fucking right in there. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, we're going to require a guest that can discuss both Seaman and Jonathan Lethem. That's the Jordan Jesse Goh differences that we cover both of those topics. She is one of Los Angeles's most celebrated celebrity book club leaders. She is also the debut novelist behind the brand new book, First Time, Long Time, and a standup comic, Amy Silverberg. Oh, thank you. I'm so happy to be back.

It's great to have you back. Are you familiar with the multiple types of harmonics? You know, I'm actually reeling from the idea that female jam band members don't have huge tits. This is it. When I picture female jam band women, I picture huge tits. Big naturals. Big, big, yes, big jugs.

I'll correct you a little bit here. This is an old Reddit post we were discussing and it had been taken down by the time that I got on mic. Because someone amended it and realized they do have big tits. Maybe that was it, but it was a Jam Band fan complaining that when he goes to Jam Band shows that the women in the audience didn't have big enough tits.

And we wondered why that was, if there was an explanation for it. But yeah, but I don't know that, I mean, I have never been to a jam band concert. Neither have I, but I imagine the audience big titted. This is something that we covered, and I wanna get back to different types of harmonicas, which is what we're here for, frankly.

I'm sorry to get us off on a big jug tangent. On a tangent. Gareth was with us the other day, and we discussed with him what concert is the juggiest. Do you have a feeling about that? It sounds like you do, is why I mentioned it. I can only think of concerts. I would like to go do and I know I don't have big jugs But I would like to see big jugs around me. Sure. Right. So i'm thinking like 2000s r&b Oh, you might be right. Yeah, you go you go see the angelo

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah even ja rule, you know, i not opposed. I'm kind of hot and cold on the genre, but I bet you got a lot of big naturals at a metal show. Yeah. Like, yeah, if you go to see Mastodon or something. But there's, but the problem, I think I would guess, this is a supposition, I don't know that I've ever been to a metal show in my life. We went to see Andrew W.K. that one time.

Oh, there's that, yeah, count? Yeah, there you go. Yeah. There you go. I feel like Andrew maybe is, has an exceptional audience relative to Mastodon or Sun or something. But my guess would be that while the natty's there would on average be sizable. There would be two sort of issues. One would be, I feel like for every juggy goth, there would be a way fish goth. Sure. And I also would guess that if you went to a mastodon concert tomorrow night I don't know if you've ever been to a mastodon. No, I would like to go I would like they're one of the metal bands that I really like I've heard mastodon and thought this sounds good. Yeah

Singer though. No, I guess I don't know I would guess that there's going to be eight flat-chested dudes for every Juggie Baby. I have a question. At a metal concert, is the audience jumping around? I mean, I think that there's probably like, and again, this is just a guess

from the limited metal that I've seen. I guess I've seen Slayer once. That's pretty good. That's like the classic. I think you have a section of people up front who are going fucking wild. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you have a lot of just like,

dudes standing with their arms crossed drinking and smoking if you can smoke. I was thinking if everyone's hopping, people are gonna need to tape down their. Yeah, you're gonna need to tape them down. Or find a nice sports bra. Yeah, or like a really supportive sports bra. Yeah, yeah.

Just something to keep in mind. in mind. Listen metal themed sports bras Steven could you ruin that computer for me? I'm sure there's way worse on this computer already You guys have known each other since college. We have no each other since college. It is cute. I agree not to make podcast um about the hosts We're really cute guys. Okay to to thing while Steven is browsing Metal sports bras. Mm-hmm. I do want to know from both of you. What if you're at a bar?

Does met does Motorhead count motor accounts? Yeah, I saw Motorhead one time. Oh cool. It's great Yeah, I bet I would love to have seen Motorhead. If you were at a bar, HMS Bounty or similar, and someone takes out a harmonica and starts wailing, are you mad or are you like, hell yeah? Okay, so I'm gonna get back to my sub question here. So there's multiple types of harmonicas, right? My dad played harmonica very amateurly. Okay. Extreme. The ten, like he had a book. Judy had a type. He had a book with like cartoons

of how to play harmonica, like from the 70s. Like a pre-harmonica for dummies, but it was like harmonica for hippies. And my dad, not really a hippie, but like that kind of thing. But I know there to be two types of harmonica there's regular harmonica like if you just picture Hohner harmonica they get those and then you get them in ABCD whatever right that's why you have the bandolier but then there's this other kind of harmonica that's roughly twice the size I I'm indicating, what would you compare this size to? It's like a...

Like a half of a... Big sandwich. Maple bar. Yeah, like most of a Hershey's bar. And that harmonica has like a plunger on the side that moves the insides back and forth and that changes the key. I can only picture it when I picture one of those guys who's a one-man band. So they have it like attached to his head. He's got a little rig, yeah.

Do you feel like that would improve your opinion if someone was at a bar and they wanted to be able to maybe they're a two-fisted drinker? Well, my dad actually took up the recorder. Oh, okay. What's new about this? In his 70s. Yeah. And he got a very, very fancy one.

Like a handmade wooden recorder. I mean, what is a high-end recorder cost? $140? I don't think it was. You know what I mean? Right, yeah. And he played it very horrifically. And he would play it in the living room and call my mom and I into the room

Get on your knees and watch this Try to get us to guess the tune right That's great Bob Dylan like blowing in the wind, but my mom and I were like Yeah, all songs sound no matter how good you are at the recorder, all kind of sounds like hot cross buns. Well, and he was really bad. Yeah. There was a guy who played, who busked on the recorder

at the 16th and Mission BART station when I was a kid, which is the BART station I would go through to go to school. And he was a true, like, just a classic, I would say he was a burned out hippie, but like, I guess he was a little older. So maybe he was a burned out ex beatnik who had turned into a hippie. It was like a real category in San Francisco is like, if you got there 10 years, five, 10 years earlier, you still did hippie shit. You just did it as a 30 year old instead of as a 19 year old. Yeah. And I do remember even then thinking what a distinctly unimpressive performance it is

to play a recorder. I thought you were going to say the opposite. I thought you were going to say he's like a virtuoso. I mean he was, I think. But you still were just like, if you're going to become a virtuoso at any instrument. Like play the flute or something. You know what I mean? was I think. But you still were just like if you're gonna become a virtuoso at any instrument. Like play the flute or something, you know what I mean? Like play a saxophone. Like there's so many things you can blow into. Speaking of which, my daughter Scarlett has been interested in music lately. And she has one of her babysitters is a musician and he like was teaching her guitar. Oh cool, okay. babysitters is a musician and he like was teaching her guitar and okay she

likes to like make make stuff in Ableton and record little raps and stuff and so I was at the flea market the other day and I got her a melodica okay I'm like this is what my child needs a fucking my child needs to be able to play more than one note at once by blowing through something. So given all types of harmonica are in play pro or con. Thank you Jordan. I'm pro. Okay. Yeah I don't want it... here's the thing. Yeah. What is the bar? Are they... is there music playing in the bar? I think... Yeah I know I think I think there is soft music in the background and the person on the harmonica is not Necessarily playing along with it. Okay, they can sync up to whatever's in the bar. I mean, that's ideal

Yeah, so what I want is there to be I don't I don't want loud music in the bar sure ever Because it will make me yell and I don't want to yell but ever because it will make me yell and I don't want to yell but if there's medium music in the bar and let's say that it's Street Fighting Man by the Rolling Stones as in the film Dirty Work in my mind all all all wereurlitzers in bars, you press L7 and you're, you're Chris Farley and you're trying to play Street Fightin' Men. Now obviously he plays Escape the Pina Colada song accidentally in the film Dirty Work, but in this case, if it were like an upbeat Rolling Stone song, which I think is the ideal song to play harmonica along to.

Yeah. harmonica along too. Like I feel strongly that like if you are playing harmonica along to harmonica music, like harmonica blues or something, you're probably a dick. Like if you're playing, you know, if there's a John Lee Hooker song on the thing and you're just a fucking dude at a bar playing along with it, probably you're a dick dick My position is I like to see somebody bring something strange into a bar I recently was at Bordner's you guys know Bordner's in Hollywood. Oh Bordner's books and music Woman had brought in a snake hey, okay You know and it's just thrilling to see a person bring in something strange. Bring in a thing. And so why not at Harmonica? You see a bar as an opportunity for show and tell.

Yes, exactly. I got this conch on my family vacation to the Bahamas. Yes, Bordeners is a bar I wanna recommend if you wanna meet a strange person. Cause it's right near Hollywood Boulevard. Yeah, that's a place for like Hollywood wackos to come in. Oh yes, and they're coming in and they wanna talk. They wanna chat. You'll be in a booth having a conversation and someoneos to come in. Oh yes, and they're coming in and they want to talk, they want to chat.

You'll be in a booth having a conversation and someone will just come in. Have you seen my steak? Yes, yes, I've been sitting with you. I have never been in a position, this is something that I only know from fiction because I spend so little time in bars. I have like never been in a position in my life where I'm in a place where it's okay for strangers to talk to you. Like, more than to say thank you, good day, nice weather we're having. Other than I guess maybe church, I guess church sometimes you wouldn't know someone and they

would come up to you and say hello at the cocktail hour or whatever. I have something going on with my face or my size where people talk to me on airplanes. I believe that. They're telling me secrets. Wow. Have you guys forgotten any fucking bangers secret wise on a plane?

I've heard about some affairs. Wow. People who want to leave their husbands or wives. Oh my gosh. And I do feel one of my good qualities is I have a deep curiosity. Wow. You know, people who want to leave their husbands or wives. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And I do feel one of my good qualities is I have a deep curiosity, but then it's hard for me to sort of shut it off. You should become a novelist.

Let's fucking go. Let's fucking go. I do, before we started, before we started Yackin on Mike, I mentioned that I was going to talk about something from Reddit, and you said something very interesting. Sorry, Jordan. We're honking on Mike, I mentioned that I was gonna talk about something from Reddit and you said something very interesting. Sorry Jordan, we're honking on Bobo. Yes, before we started honking on Bobo, you said that, you said Reddit is my therapist. Reddit's my, Reddit's my doctor.

I feel like I wanna hear more about that. Reddit's my, I mean I also get a lot of weird threads. You know, I just got something from our moon. Our moon! And it was just people who had taken our moon our moon and it was just people who had taken pictures of the moon okay the moon that's nice yeah they were real moon moon guys yeah not not butt folk no no no no like the moon because most of reddit is butt folk and so you would think that our slash moon

would be sorry to say I watch my pornography on reddit I go to it for everything, you know? So that's why you were on R moon. You just made a mistake. Yeah, I'm looking at it. I see something on my skin. I want to know what Reddit thinks. I like what is it, R what is it, and people are just funny kind of thing.

Oh, that is fun. R what is it is very fun. I like R what is it. I like R what is this worth. I'll help people in R what is this worth, because I know how to look up completed auctions on live auctioneers Oh nice, okay But I wanted let's let's get back to reddit pornography because there's been a real sea change over the last five years in reddit pornography

Go on which is it's really been professionalized which is great for the pornographers like if you're out there and you're posting pictures of your dong or your cooch and you want to earn money, you're much better off in 2025 than in 2015. You don't have to be exploited by a pornography company, you can just be exploited by a payment processing platform. And are you talking about that as related to OnlyFans?

Yeah, pretty much, right? You guys know I'm you don't know I'm on only fans really not so I did a stand-up set for them Only fans is trying to move into comedy, right? Is that a great idea? I don't They certainly picked the right comic so they've got some They have a lot of comics doing it and then it pays really well And then part of your contract is you have to have An only fans account Wow for a year, and I gotta say I'm having such a wonderful time I find the men to be very supportive, okay

I put a paywall and men will they'll subscribe and they'll be like can I see a nude and I'll be like oh You know I don't feel comfortable like I teach it to college and they're like good for you, Amy Wow nude and I'll be like, oh, you know, I don't feel comfortable. Like I teach it to college and they're like, good for you, Amy. Wow. Well, I'll be like, sorry, I haven't been on like talking to anyone. Like I'm under a deadline for a novel and everyone's like, can we see your tits? And I'm like, no. And they're like, keep writing. These are my uncles. These are my family.

I love these guys. One time I put up a picture of my book. I pre-ordered your book, Show Feed on Maine. Yes, I covered my boobs with shrimp emojis. And all these men were like, how much to remove the shrimp? And I was like, can't remove them. And they were like, good for you. How much to remove the shrimp? I cannot remove.

And they were like, nice talking to you. Usually I'm asking how much to provide me shrimp. Yum, yum. At Sizzler. And granted, I'm sure if you're getting naked and you're doing that, that probably you are getting some rude people, but I'm finding them to be nice and supportive. Do you find that, so the real change in Reddit pornography is I feel like when I signed up for Reddit 15 years ago, maybe. Primarily Reddit pornography was like

awkward homemade pornography. It remains homemade, but like the level of professionalism has increased dramatically. So before it was just like, hey, take a look at my dick, or hey, take a look at my tits. I'm just a weird guy who's a little drunk and feeling horny or whatever. And lonely probably.

Yeah. And now I feel like anywhere where there's pornography on Reddit, the level of intensity of the calls to action is so high and so specific. The headlines will be like would you come on the tits of a 237 year old 237 pound Asian woman with three left feet And you're like you're like alright, and it's just like playboy level glamour glamour photography Huh? I'm searching like two people in love, you know. I think I'm missing. Understanding partner. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think I'm missing. Where is the world of, because I've talked on this program before, like one of my favorite subreddits is a sub, and I primarily, in fact, almost exclusively use Reddit for chaste purposes. Of course. I just go to argue about why baseball teams should have pride days in r slash mlb. But one of my favorite subreddits is r slash sex over 30. And it's just people talking about having sex with their partners, like they're typically married

partners that people get over 30. It's not like I can't get it up. I mean, like once in a while it's I can't get it up, or like my pussy's not wet enough or whatever. But like, in general, how do I remove the shrimp? It's just like sex stuff that would apply to grownups that love each other. Yes, yes, yes. Like some of it is like intense sex stuff that,

like not just emotionally intense, but like sexually intense. Like some people as they get into their 30s and 40s have more complicated sexual interests. Yeah, yeah. But like, it's just like, the vibe is so intensely positive that like, it's all just like, it's all just like people asking like, like, how can I tell my wife that I want her to stroke my hair while she sucks my dick or whatever.

And the answers are always like, try communication. Yes. Try telling her. Thank you. Yeah. And they're not like, fuck you, communicate with your partner. They're like, here's what I did. And now our relationship has blossomed.

Like there's a- I find Reddit, because I find, you know, obviously Twitter's kind of like dead and I never really got into TikTok, but I used to find Twitter so stressful and like, and I've read it. Yeah, even in its heyday, even in its glory pre-Elon days, still kind of a bad place.

Of course, as a comic, like men will like yell at you all the time, any joke you make, you know? And I find Reddit to be overall overall like I don't know sweeter Yeah, I like I like the problem solving Focus yes like I love to know what backpack I should buy for travel and that there is not a a Interests group that does not exist my friend Logan Gunselman shout out She likes like our peanut butter.

You know, like there's... Wow. Sounds like a fun spot. We gotta get this Gunselman on the show. Oh my god. Yeah, I was on my way to Trader Joe's and I was like, what are people liking at Trader Joe's? When on Reddit, people are recommending things. Oh, I'm nuts about r slash Costco.

Okay, yeah, r Trader Joe's. I gotta get into r slash Trader Joe's. One thing I'll do, we talked about this on Jordan Jessi Go a couple of weeks ago, but one of my greatest pleasures as a non-drinker whose beloved wife is a non-treater of self to anything slash enjoyer of anything other than taking care of others is to buy alcohol for my wife. Like my wife does like to have a drink every once in a while. She has like particular, she likes Malbec. She likes bourbon. She likes rum. Sure. Okay. She's like a pirate. She likes an oaky Chardonnay.

Yeah, she's a pirate. She likes citrus to cure her scurvy. She likes whatever she can plunder from the coast of Spain. And I will go on Reddit, if I am at a Costco, a Trader Joe's, or like a Whole Foods. I don't go to, I've done it a couple times at Whole Foods, because Whole Foods has like a huge wine section, and I'm never at Whole Foods and I will search on Reddit for what do the fucking true Alki ass connoisseurs love from these stores that's special because I also love to buy a super high quality store brand good, which is a Costco Trader Joe specialty. Like a Kirkland signature. Yeah.

I also again, not to be too earnest, but I sometimes find on reddit to be so especially in those threads where you think you're just gonna see stuff like what to buy at Trader Joe's and Someone will be like I've been feeling really depressed like what's a good frozen food and then people will talk What's a good ramen? Like people will talk to them and be like, I'm sorry you're depressed, like what's been going on? And I'm like so moved by the humanity that's like pulsing through Reddit. I wish I had saved this, but over on r slash Ska, I saw a post once, someone go,

I just went through a breakup, anybody got any upbeat songs? And I'm like, friend, you have come to the right place. Like. Yeah. I'm like, I'm glad you didn't come to R slash bossa nova because. And I think there are other places on the internet

that make you feel really like isolated and lonely. And on Reddit, I think people are at least what I'm seeing. Then of course I'm on R poker. Oh. I'm a poker player. Oh, wow. What is that like? I imagine.

That's a less nice one. That's mostly just Steve Albini. Sure. The late Steve Albini. People are like you played it like an idiot, R-word. Someone used that in a discussion of whether there should be pride at baseball games. Cool. Those are the threads that you're seeing. I think you are our guest, recurring guest now, who I would think is the most into gambling. And I always say people think I'm five feet. I don't know if you can hear it in my voice.

Five feet in height. Five feet in height and width. I'm a ball. You're a real Veruca Salsa. That's the right one. I'm five feet. Violet Beauregard's one. But thank you.

People think I can't be a gambler. They think I can't see over the chips. I can and I do. When you're winning over the chips. You know, but I can and I do. When you're winning and the chips are stacked so high. Yeah, I love that. And poker is, whether this is true or not,

you feel like it's not just gambling because it's also like strategy and you're trying to imagine what other people have and putting them on ranges and trying not to be intimidated by a man. Even though he's wearing that cool visor? Exactly, even though he's wearing weird sunglasses. Do you have a preferred poker?

I only like Hold'em, I only play Hold'em. I play at, you name the casino in Los Angeles. I'm so sick of these assholes that play draw. Sure. Unfortunately, I go to casinos and men are waving at me and that's tough to know that you're recognized You know waving at you because I see you Or because you're there now cuz I'm their friend cuz I play so much poker

Okay, but not cuz they want to order a drink. That's what I Know that headdress with the feathers and then you know another comic told me recently They were like I was at a casino and someone asked me if they knew you, like just a random man. And I was like, this is so humiliating. Comics from casinos that they know from casinos. It's you and Norm MacDonald, the creator of the new work. Just a random person was like, oh, you're a comic. Do you know this woman, Amy?

She comes a lot. And he was like, I do know Amy and how sad for her. The last time you were here, I've constantly been thinking about you talking about how great Reno is Oh, I love Reno and actually I was so so enjoyed Reno that it became kind of a centerpiece of my novel Oh my gosh, really the characters from somewhere near Reno, would you say it's like one of the main characters in the novel? I mean in a lot of ways Reno is like a character in the novel. Outside of Reno, I needed her to be from a kind of small town.

Yeah. You know, if you read the novel first time, long time, available in bookstores now, in a lot of ways, Reno is a... Okay, so this is my question about the novel. I'm glad it came up because I didn't know that it was a call-in radio novel. There's a character who's maybe like Howard Stern-esque. Okay. How did you come to that topic? Great question.

I'm a Howard Stern fan. I have been for a long time. And I liked, I was just working with like themes, I think like preoccupations. I liked the idea of someone who's really public, maybe having a kind of private persona and a public persona. I'm interested in difficult fathers and how they cast a shadow on daughters,

on women they're with. And it's so not based on Howard Stern, obviously, but that was kind of a, someone I've always been interested in. I'm interested in how misunderstood he thinks he is. And I think I'm interested in complexity and how people can be two things at once, many things at once.

The world of Howard Stern is still, I mean, what's Howard Stern? 87 years old at this point? You know what's interesting is he's so left wing and now these other kind of popular podcast guys move further to the right and he moves further to the left. It's I mean, so left wing. I mean, he's still old. Yeah, and a weird old rich guy. Yeah, and a weird old rich guy,

but he's like for trans rights and gay marriage and all of these things that other, and very anti-Trump and had like, I don't know, just. Pro-personal development that's not toxic. Yes, exactly. The only time I- But is this shock jock interested in these taboo topics without actually engaging in that in his private life?

But still probably quite self-absorbed and difficult. I'm interested in- Doesn't he go to therapy every day? He goes like three times a week. Yeah. I'm also interested in like fame and the proximity to it. The only time I have ever been respected by people I like and respect is once when I said

something nice about Howard Stern to a news... I think in an interview about my podcast where I interviewed interviewers, I said something nice about Howard Stern's interviewing, which I think is very distinctive. I don't necessarily think it is the best in the way that some people think it is the best, but I think it's very distinctive and interesting in that he will just ask someone the same question for half an hour straight until they tell him something that he wants to know about. Yeah. I also like, I'm interested in his interest in minutiae, in like, do you eat for breakfast? And that he seems to be as interested in that for a celebrity as he is like a weird guy off the street,

which is like, I think, a novelist, a writer tendency to want to like know what you eat for breakfast and what your private life looks like. He... So I said this one nice thing about him, and they excerpted it and covered it on something called Howard News, which is a news show on the Howard Stern channel that's about news about Howard Stern. Come on, put me on that.

I was gonna say, I mean, you're on the book promo tour. I don't want him, the novel is not about him, but I am, I do appreciate him and think about him and also appreciate the things that are the complexity. So I said one sentence about Howard Stern. It became a segment on Howard News. When it ran on Howard News, like my phone was vibrating. Rob Cordray texted me, vibrating, Rob Cordray texted me, Andy Richter texted me, Paul Scheer texted me, every person I've ever respected and admired in comedy who's between five and 15 years older

than we are, texted me about it, and then I heard from Ira Glass. And I was like, well. Andy Richter, bit on his podcast, great guy. Wonderful guy, really lovely guy. We're almost to the point where we have to take a break. I do want to hear if you're going to Reno for the first time. If I was to make it to Reno-

Oh, I know exactly where you gotta go. Where is the spot? You're going to the Peppermill Casino. And I spent so much time in the sports book of the pepper milk casino. I've been going to the salt pig casino Is that the wrong? I could not open my eyes at the end of the day because it's so smoky in there that my eyes wouldn't They were so red and watery Also people kept coming up to me because I had a computer asking me if I was doing homework

And I was like I am just writing a novel here in the sportsbook putting five dollars on the Lakers you know enjoying my time great they have poker there they have craps tables wonderful food it's like to use but cheaper when you say wonderful food I like it okay what do you want from me eating in my hotel bed every night. I'm having chicken parm. Are we talking about king crab legs type situation? Big kind of buckets of chow mein I'm eating. Yeah, that does sound pretty good. Well, next month, Jordan, Jesse go live at the pepper mill.

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Yes. Amy, what is the best thing someone has told you on an airplane? Or the most compelling? Okay, a guy was sitting next to me and he told me that his wife had left him for his aunt. Okay. Now we are fucking talking.

Yes, yes. Follow-up novel maybe? Well, and that, I was like, that must have been devastating. Possible name, Ant Farm? And he was like, honestly, we get along great. And that was the strangest part. It was hard at first Yeah, you know, but he was also I'm a little cabin together in the in the summer

And I'm a type 1 diabetic and he was also a type 1 diabetic so I get very excited when I see another type 1 diabetic There's not that many of us Nick Jonas. That's like about it girl from Haim Halle Berry thought she had it and then it turned out that she just had indigestion so that was kind of a real loss for us. I wish I knew which type of diabetic Dave Holmes was. Oh yeah. If you don't know, probably type two, no offense. Type ones you get it usually as a kid. Anyway, he had the sensor that I have and I got excited about that. And then we talked about how his wife left him for his aunt.

And then as we're like landing, he says some crazy conspiracy where he was like, don't you think the water gave us diabetes? Oh boy. And I was like, I think our pingrius is just don't work. You know, like the lizard people or I don't know. And then afterwards I was like, what an interesting guy, fascinating guy. Yeah, I don't think people want afterwards I was like what an interesting guy fascinating guy Yeah, I don't think people want to talk to me on an airplane. I don't think I'm giving talk to me vibes six four two fifteen

People are really like come locked in on my my movie on my computer Yeah, five feet open face like a menu Holding a holding a book. computer. Yeah, five feet, open face like a menu, holding a book. Yeah. Yeah. I think the amount of talking a stranger does to you is inversely proportional to how a friendly type of pretty you are slash small you are. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm working on looking meaner. Yeah, like nobody talks to Angelina Jolie. She doesn't have to worry about that. It's not a straight pretty man. It's not exclusively whether you're pretty.

No, you gotta look kind of open. Have you thought about, like maybe if you don't wanna have people talk to you on a plane, like just having like a little bit of like fake eyebrow that you put between your two eyebrows so it looks like they're connected and then... Yeah, I mean, I'd love to have a sign that says, if this is a story that's really gonna floor me go ahead yeah if you're just

asking me what I'm going to Denver for yeah I just say lock it up let me stop you here yes on a scale of one to ten how hot is this anecdote you're about to share another guy on a plane told me about his job is to remove dead bodies yeah that's the stuff. I think, yeah. But he did try to make me guess his job, and that part I didn't love. He was like, I bet you can never guess what I do. And I was like, you're probably right.

You're like a fucking asshole. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. He goes, I'll give you $100 if you can guess what I do. Oh boy. You know, like, well, give me the $100 now, and then I'll... Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm going to Reno, so I need it.

Exactly, exactly. Exactly. I got Reno, so I need it. Exactly, exactly. I got chicken parms to order. Now, on our program, you may not know this, Amy, Jordan and I are very creative. Of course. Everyone says this. And a lot of people like text us, they'll say,

oh, Jesse, Jordan, you guys work so hard on the show, you come up with so many great ideas, it's not just you bringing a guest in to provide the ideas. And then you just talk about the same four stories. People are texting you, I assume, Jesse Jordan Go. Yeah, they text us. Jesse Jordan Go at Mac.com is how you text us. We get it both on our phones.

So we come up with a lot of segment ideas for the show. So just so you know, this is someone calling in for one of the ideas that we had. This isn't just someone calling in to tell us something they wanted to tell us and then saying it's for a segment. Okay. Just so you know. Are you gonna tell me what the segment was? We'll tell them after. We'll tell you after. Hey Jordan and Jesse Goh, this is Catherine calling from Mal Malmo, Sweden. I am calling in for your signature segment I saw it on the sidewalk Yesterday when I was riding my bike home from work

I saw a maybe 10 year old kid standing there helmet on on the sidewalk with their father Who was bending down? with their father who was bending down, holding the bike saddle up and whacking away at the spokes of the back wheel with a hammer. And that's what I saw on the sidewalk. Thank you, love you guys, bye. Love you too, love Malmo, Sweden.

Yes. One time I went to Malmo. So the segment was I saw it. I saw it on the sidewalk. On lot of you not anywhere else so it's not I saw like we of course have the segment I went on reddit and read it pewter yeah yeah and so this is for a corollary segment that we thought of so you know letterman had stupid petricks, stupid human tricks. Right, right. I saw it on the sidebar. Yeah, so this isn't just someone in Sweden who saw someone hammering on a bicycle with a hammer and then wanted to call in and tell us about it. My thought was this person's lying from being from Sweden, but I don't know why.

Because of the Rs? I don't know. Yeah, I was like, now she lives in LA. I went to Malmo, Sweden once. This person's, you're calling from North Hollywood. Yeah. Don't fuck with us. I shouldn't underestimate your reach, the two of you. Oh, versus you're calling from North Hollywood. Yeah. I shouldn't underestimate your reach, the two of you. Oh, we've got reach. I went to Malmo, Sweden to go to a store and then when I

got there it was closed. Give me a break. That's the store. What was the store? I don't remember what it's called. Okay. You went all the way to Sweden to go to a store? Yeah, well I was in Denmark. Oh, okay that makes more sense. This lady that I this lady that I knew in Denmark She's like, oh my husband is into fashion and stuff. So why don't you guys go on a date together? And Anyway, I ended up marrying her aunt Turns into a whole polycule, but yeah her husband her husband and I went to Malmo, which you just take a train to Malmo It's right over the border if I remember correctly, to go to this store. But the store had switched from being open to the public to being internet only

since the last time he had been there. And so we just sort of looked through the windows and then wandered through Malmo, which, well, a very nice town is not really one to visit. Did you see anything on the sidewalk? I did. I saw a 10 year old on the sidewalk and their dad was there hitting them with a hammer. Oh. So I ran out and got them a bicycle because I didn't want, I don't tolerate that kind of thing. There's a lot of hot ants out there, huh? A lot of hot ants out there. A lot of kooky ants. Oh yeah. I

mean these aren't mutually exclusive. No, of course. You can be hot and kooky. Everyone is a kooky ant and if you don't have a kooky ant, it's your mom. My kooky ant. She's someone else's kooky ant. My kooky ant comes to this office regularly. I would say every two years. Your kooky ant, or just regular ant? My kooky ant. Yeah. My kooky ant, who is now 81 years old. Shout out Gail Dorita, just the best aunt.

My aunt has always been, like since I was a child, my aunt has always been wearing two different colors of Converse All Stars. Oh, come on. Statement earrings, giant dangly statement earrings, short spiky hair dyed in different crazy colors. I love her. Generally between three and 10 huskies living at her house, which she mushes through the

streets of Oakland on a cart that has wheels on it. With them pulling her, obviously. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. She types 125 words a minute. I mean, she may not now, just because of being in her 80s. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. She types 125 words a minute. I mean, she may not now just because of being in her 80s. Sure. But at her peak, she was 125 to 150 words a minute. Until the Huskies, it was very like Magic School Bus woman, Mrs. Frizzle, right?

Mrs. Frizzle. I'm not saying Mrs. Frizzle isn't gay. I'm just saying my aunt is super gay. Like it's a, huskies and gayness. I thought it was always intuited with Mrs. Frizzle that she probably has a girlfriend somewhere. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I'm not saying, again, I'm not saying she's not gay. I'm just saying she's not at like, aunt, basically, her greatest pleasure in the world

would be to carry around a giant cardboard sign that says, gay, got a problem with that, fuck you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, anyway, my aunt. And I, of course, worry I'll age into kooky aunt and that you're not quite sure. I don't have nieces or nephews yet, but my brother's trying. And then all of a sudden, am I cool, Anne?

Am I cool? When you cross into Kuki. Yeah, and I do have some kind of small figurines. That's tough. That's how it starts. That's how it's, what are the figurines? Little wiener dogs. I like wiener dogs.

I like kind of small little animals. Think of it this way. Glass Menagerie. Your brother isn't trying to give himself and his partner children. Instead, he's trying to give you a future spouse. She's a kooky aunt. Yes, yes, I do.

Do you have a kooky aunt yourself? Yeah, I got some kookies. Okay. I'm actually going to Denver this weekend to do stand upup and I'm related to every Jew in Denver. Okay That's a good place to have a cookie and yes, they're alive. So I got some cookies outdoor activities They're like outdoor activities They like forcing me to eat when I'm not hungry, you know that kind of that's a classic. That's a classic. I can't be yeah

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my aunt doesn't eat anything She's like it's pussy. I'm sorry No doubt about it. No a lot of protein there. You can she'd be very she'd high-five Yes, she'd be like I sure do I'm munching away. She shows up here once every two years with like she'll go to the in the inland Empire there are dog shelters that euthanize dogs. And is that where she goes to get her huskies? She will go get dogs there, load them into her El Camino that has a shell on it. Don't worry, it has a shell on it. And then she will drive them up to the Bay Area and find people to adopt them. But she will stop here. Usually

she'll do it on the way, but she will have like her, the highest needs huskies that are living in her apartment will come with her. So she'll just come through the front door with a three legged, one eyed, 17 year old husky dog. She sounds incredible. Yeah, she rules. No, she absolutely rules. We love a kooky aunt. That's what they're there for. Your audience might be 90% kooky aunt.

Shit. You are OK. And of course, some kooky nieces who have not yet become. That's true. I feel like we're probably underrepresented in drunkles. Like, I feel like drunk uncles is not a great category for Jordan Jessico listeners. More kooky aunts.

Uncles who are in psychedelics. Sure, yeah, yeah. Kooky uncles. There are kooky uncles who are a kooky aunt, I think. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. Kooky uncles can be kooky aunts. Kooky uncles can be kooky aunts, and kooky aunts

can be drunkles. Yeah. Of course, sure. Everyone can be cookie aunts and cookie aunts can be drunkles. Yeah. Of course. Everyone can be anything. When something momentous happens to you, give us a call 206-984-4FUN or just send us a voice memo at jjgo at maximumfun.org such as has done this person. Hello Jordan, Jesse, distinguished guest this is Aaron from lovely Medford, Massachusetts

It's just driving my car and there was a guy coming towards me on a scooter He was maybe going the wrong way and as he got closer to me. I noticed that he was wearing a crossing guard outfit As part of that he had his stop sign kind of like on his back in a backpack situation But I see a closer notice that the backpack was also holding a guitar some sort of Case thing was a guitar in it anyways crossing guard Riding a scooter with the guitar thought man. I should probably be in a band with this guy. Okay. Thanks. Bye Yes, this guy is fucking community minded sure I know that's important nice voice on that guy on the guy who called in

Can I just say if you're calling into Jordan, Jesse go go ahead take your time? Tuesday here. Like when David Lynch would read the weather. Real like radio DJ easing you into the weekend. Yeah. Yeah, we've got the Commodores coming. We've got, stay tuned for Luther Vandross. And the weather is 72 and getting higher.

Here on The Breeze. Yeah. That's awesome. I had something strange recently please I know means should you add content to our program? I've still been thinking about it. I'll think about it. I think for a long time I'm not a great driver and people are constantly screaming at me on the road And I'm always just taking it sort of like sorry sorry like I'm never arguing. I'm always accidentally like

Sorry, like I'm never arguing. I'm always accidentally like cutting yeah, you got a boy It's like I'm driving with my feet just like and I never know where I'm going you're supposed to use your feet I can barely see over those are some of the only fans messages. Yes. Yes But this time I hadn't really been doing anything wrong I was like like going through a neighborhood, trying to like find a parking spot. And this guy was behind me just like tailgating me. And finally he comes up next to me and he's like screaming at me. And I was like mad, you know, I was like, scream back.

And then he goes, do you fuck your dog? Oh my gosh. I didn't have a dog in the car with me. I don't have a dog. You're like, do you not? Yeah, I was just like, what a shit. What kind of a dog in the car with me. I don't have a dog. You're like, do you not? Yeah, I was just like, what a sh- What kind of a dog owner are you? It was so disarming that I was cackling.

I was like, I also do talk in my private life about how much I love dogs. I would fuck a dog. And I was like, how did he know that? He's just a fan. Yeah, I was just like, I don't have a dog. It was just, what an interesting thing to say to me You know who would know that only fans only only fans would I do periodically have people pull up next to me

They do the window roll down motion and they just yell remove the shrimp Until now I hadn't known what they were talking about I recently it's funny I recently had someone pull up next to me do do the roll down the window motion, and then give me unlimited shrimp. Oh. Just a shoot. Didn't Red Lobster take that away?

I think people were eating literally too much shrimp. I think it bankrupted them and Flavor Flav had to bail them out. I saw Flavor Flav at the Vegas airport and he was on, have you guys seen those suitcases that also are little carts that you can ride around? Oh my god. He was riding around on his cart and he looked happy as can be. It was a real sort of joy to see him.

Was it self-propelled or was it the scooter kind? It was like electric. That little children ride. It was like electric and he was like sitting on it and scooting around on his suitcase and I was going through security and I said to the security guard, is that Flav or Flav? And he goes, yeah, he comes through here all the time. Hmm. What time is it you said? You have the time. Anyway, let's do this. Let's check in with Flav or Flav, ask him what time it is. Call him.

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I will do my best to live long and prosper. Become a Max Fund member now at maximumfund.org slash join. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorn, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective. We were just singing the praises of George Saunders. Amy, you have to introduce yourself. I'm sorry. Amy Silverberg. Yes. We were singing the praises of George Saunders, as far as I'm concerned, the greatest living American other than Jack Handy. When three whites gather around a table,

What are they gonna talk about other than George Saunders? must be invoked. And Roxane Gay, shout out to Roxane Gay. Forsooth, dost thou have a four year degree in thine humanities? I, sorry to again be so earnest but I have a little snippet that he said in an interview in the Parish Review. I cut it out and put it on my bulletin board where he says something like I don't have some great theory on fiction. I just know that if I read one sentence does it give me a

little jolt and make me want to read the next sentence That's good. That guy is writing advice jolter good writing advice writing advice when you're I'm you know as the poet Elizabeth Benedict says if I wanted plot I'd watch Dallas. I'm not a person. I'm just Elizabeth Bishop. Excuse me I'm just trying to write one sentence and then the next sentence. Can we wrap this up? I literally thought you're gonna say can we wrap this up? Sorry. Dallas, thanks for reminding me. Dallas is on. Okay, I literally thought you were going to say, can you wrap this up? This is getting boring. I'm tired of this.

No, it's just that I just finished Dynasty and so. You gotta watch. Elizabeth Bishop. Sorry. Elizabeth Bishop. The poet Elizabeth Bishop. Let's see how many authors' names I can squeeze in here. And then of course, I love Howard Stern.

Bob O'Leary. Sure. And you guys know me, James Patterson guy. And of course, God who wrote the Bible. I thought you were going to name a porn star. Do you know porn stars by name? Not contemporary porn stars. I know Jenna Jamison.

Oh come on, everyone knows her. Jenna Jamison and I know, fuck, what is the lady who's in the Steven Soderbergh movie? Yeah, I remember that she was Stormy Daniels. She was great in Black Bag, wasn't she? Stormy Daniels. No, I remember that there was a porn star who was in some like, you know, legit big screen movies for a while in like the early 2000s, but I forget who it is. I can't think of what her name is. I did a show where it was a comedy contest and I was the judge and a adult film star was the other judge. And I was so enamored by her. I could barely look at her.

She had huge gigantic tits. Sure. A real jam band fan. So glamorous. She was so glamorous. She had actually never seen stand up ever in her life. Really? I think it was this, the conceit of the show

was that you're always being judged by a comedian and a porn star. But her advice was so funny because it was either so brutal, where she would be like to the comedian, never speak again. Everything you said was upsetting and boring. Or she would be like, I loved you because I like burritos and you talked about burritos. It was so, and then we started following each other

and the way that I comment on her stuff is like she's gonna get a restraining order. Like she'll put up a photo of her in like lingerie and a baseball cap and I'll be like, I have a baseball cap, like we're twins. Or she like posted something about being on Brazzers and she always wanted to be on brassers And I was like this is huge like this is like the New Yorker of porn Excited for you bang bus next yeah

Fuck is this girl again why she's so obsessed with me Lauren pixie. Yeah, I hope you get out of that dryer Our friend guy Branham I went to see, I went to see his hour last year at Dynasty Typewriter and there was about 20 minutes of anecdotes about hanging out with porn stars. And I thought just like, what an unbelievable thing to have as a normal part of your life visiting. You know what I mean? Like, in my imagination, it's probably monumentally difficult to live there. Like, just a difficult place to live is in that world. But to visit it regularly enough that you feel fine visiting it must be... When you say visiting it, you mean the world of pornography? Yeah, just the world of pornography.

And this was not like, he wasn't like on porn sets. It was just that he was like going to parties that were porn star parties. Also, he has a great book, My Life as a Goddess. Guy Branum. The overlay, overlap of porn stars and comedians. Yeah. It's almost right on top of each other. Literally, it's almost humping.

Yes. Amy is making a humping motion with her hands. I forget if there's a video or not. Flip-flap, flip-flap. Wells Tower, if you guys know him, great collection of short stories, everything ravaged, everything burned. He wrote a great article, it's old now, in GQ where he followed a bunch of porn stars in

their daily life. And I think this was pre, so probably 2012, so kind of pre-OnlyFans and stuff. And he was struck by how mundane it all was for them, but that a lot of them had trouble having like regular intimate partnered sex because it was like too intimate It was like the lights were on in this way. That was difficult Dave Holmes. Our buddy has a great Esquire Let's all yell articles at each other. Let's all say the name of someone we know plus a publication Like I'm interested in the rest of your sentence. Amy's gonna wanna tune out because of the type two diabetes.

Okay, no! Not juvenile, what was formerly known as juvenile diabetes. I have respect for the type twos, I love them. Like they are my uncles. Yeah. Dave wrote jokes and patter for the Gay Porn Awards one year and this is a really funny recollection of that. One of the nominated films that year, Get Your Dick Outta My Son.

I watched some of Lauren Pixie, the woman who I became obsessed with, and she did a lot of Stepmom. Yeah. who I became obsessed with, and she did a lot of stepmom. But I watched so many that I saw her acting really improve. You know? So she was like, son, sort of interesting to call your stepson son. She'd be like, son, son, son, stop, as he's grabbing her boobs.

She's like, son, son, Mr. Golden Sun, please shine down on me. Her singing gets better too. But then later she was like, sun. And I was like, okay. She's locked in. I can't think of it. What's that acting teacher? Everyone takes Leslie Cahn or something? Sure, yeah. Constantine Stanislavski. You have to have a secret, an actor's secret. Like Mark Hamill through the Star Wars franchise, you know? We get to see him go from... Yeah, yes, yes. Anyway.

I thought you were alluding to the secret backstory that he created for himself. This is probably like the third podcast I've talked about. He's got some sudden stuff going on. This is like the third podcast I've talked about, Lauren Pixie. She's probably like, if this bitch won't get my name out of her mouth. No, she's just trying to plug her OnlyFans, just like you and everybody else. And I'm plugging her. While between segments, when we were just talking about David Foster Wallace.

Sounds like her stepson is plugging her. Yeah. Go ahead. Thank you. I was like, how do we, eh, we'll figure that out later. Jesse, you handled it. Thank you while we were you know, just Yacking it up about David Foster Wallace between segments. Sure. I was here. I was had my phone out felt a little bit rude

Because you know, we all need to be more present these days. We can't just have our noses and our little hypno devices, you know Sorry guys, I'm obsessed with apps. Sure. Sorry. Can I have another dopamine pellet to daddy Zuckerberg? Sorry. But what I was doing was I was going on the website bookshop.org. Do you have a shop there? So bookshop.org is a popular website for the purchase of books. Thank you. Yes.

Porn. Yeah, great way to get a book. Has this been a porn heavy show? I apologize for that. No, not normal. I came in, okay, really swinging. Yeah, great way to get a book. Has this been a porn heavy show? I apologize for that Standard swinging. Yeah That's why we invite you on you don't miss a beat. The show is not that's why we invite her on She's a horny little pervert. Yeah, we love those preverts here. Yeah, we love to call them that too I was going on bookshop.org

Pulled up first time long time bookshop.org a great place to get a book in the mail if you You know want to support bookshops as opposed to like a bad company, right? Bookshop.org. I pre-ordered myself first time long time When will this come out? Pre-ordered, pre-ordered, showing the receipt. There it is, paid for it, full price Spring for the hardcover. I appreciate that I also did the audio book. That's kinda cool. It comes out next Thursday. Still time to get in those pre-orders, I think.

Does it have any submarines in it? I'm just trying to figure out if I should pre-order. It's like women talking about their feelings on a submarine. Whoa! Fair enough. I have a book launch if this comes out before then, July 24th at Skylight. It will come out before then.

I love it. With one of my favorite writers, Amy Bender. This is a four quadrant book. It's women talking about their feelings on a submarine and one of them, a child, is the chosen one who gets magical powers.. They're all fucking fairies They all play the harmonica Is it a little wonder just have a plunger I'm sorry that your dad passed. It's okay. Thank you. It was your fault

Just so you know, I'm also not sure the time frame. He actually was murdered by John Popper. Hmm okay. Yeah. John Popper wanted to win my mom back and no matter how many times I told John Popper that my mom and dad were divorced and had been for 35 years. He didn't want any competition even in her memory. He's an angry vengeful man. Did not want any competition. Amy, thank you for joining us on the program. Always a joy to see you. Thank you for having me. Twice so far, it's been a joy to see you. I've been watching you. Okay, great. How is it to see us? Yeah, no, you guys look good clothed. Thank you.

Hey, we removed the shrimp. We removed it for a reason. Hey, we removed the shrimp. We removed it for a reason. Our producer on the program is Stephen Ray Morris. Hey, if you are a member of Maximum Fun and you're out there, make sure to check out our podcast on the Maximum Fun members feed that is called Podcast Movie Movie Podcast because there is a new episode. It does feature John Hodgman talking about his film Pitch Perfect 2, of which he is the star, by which I mean he has one line from off screen, and sings and dances, and they

probably used his real voice in the mix because he gets residuals from the soundtrack. Yeah, it was a really, really fun chat, podcast, movie, movie, podcast, where we discuss movies and shows that have podcasting as part of the plot, maximumfun.org slash join. You can only hear it if you remember. And Jordan, if people are in the San Francisco Bay Area, should they be excited about Jordan Jesse Goh right now for reasons we're not gonna explain yet? Yeah, well, let's just say keep your August open.

Yeah, keep your August open. Again, I'll be happy to join you there. Yeah, perfect. Yeah, it's gonna be a book event. Yes, thank you. Yeah, just our favorite local authors, or not local authors in this case, Los Angeles authors. As long as your kooky aunt's coming.

Great. Oh my God. Think she would come to the show? I wonder what, I wonder what Gail would think of Jordan Jessie Goh. You don't think she's ever listened? No, my mom has never listened to Jordan Jessie Goh. My mom listens to my NPR show sometimes Okay

And I'm sure she's seen clips of Jordan Jessica now on Instagram and I don't know what she makes of them She's come to our live shows before right? Judy's have been a very supportive Advocate of the show as much as you can advocate for it by not listening to it. My guess is Gail. That's your kooky aunt's name, right? Yeah Would love it. That's your kooky aunt's name, right? Yeah. Would love it. I'm going to go out on the limb.

My aunt changed her surname in the 80s because she didn't want to be named after her dad and perpetuate the patriarchy. So she changed her surname to Dorita because my grandmother's name was Rita. That's fun. Yeah. She also sends me text messages on the solstice to wish me a happy solstice. Happy solstice.

And happy, we haven't wished the listeners happy solstice. Yeah, happy solstice to all of you. May your days be long and bright. Yes, long and bright. You're not going to see that in our moon. You sure? You sure are right. Oh, they hate the solstice. Oh, but fuck this! Yes, you're not gonna see that in our moon

Well, they love the other winter solstice that you know what that's one of the big solstice yes Give me your top two solstices in your top two poultices We can't get into another topic. We gotta wrap up the show. I won't let you guys leave. It's been so fun. I don't want to go. Good night, everyone. We'll talk to you next time. Oh, our theme music is Love You by The Free Design, courtesy of The Free Design and Light in the Attic Records. Join us on social media at jordandavidmorris. Jordan, Jesse, go pod at jessethorne.

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