Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Nasty Little Knots, with Eliza Skinner

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

On this week’s episode, we welcome back comedian and writer Eliza Skinner to chat about the joy of ceramics, craft root beer, the color wheel, and so much more!Eliza’s Etsy shop!This week's sponsor is  Stitchfix:That’s Wildgrain.com/JJGO, or you can use promo code JJGO at checkoutMake style easy—get started today at Stitch Fix dot com slash JJGO.That’s Stitch Fix dot com slash JJGO.Stichfix.com/JJGOBe sure to get our new 'Ack Tuah' shirt in the Max Fun store.Or, grab an 'Ack Tuah' mug!Follow the podcast on Instagram and send us your dank memes!Check out Jesse’s thrifted clothing store, Put This On.Come see Judge John Hodgman: Road Court  live in a town near you! Jesse and John will be all over the country so don't miss your change to see them. Check the events page to find out where! Follow brand new producer, Steven Ray Morris, on Instagram.

Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective, here with something I read on the internet. Oh, really? Mm-hmm.

Well, we have a recurring segment on the show called Jordan Read This Online. And this sounds like the perfect content for that recurring segment. Yeah. A couple weeks ago, we were talking about R slash marbles. You recommended it. Love it. A great subreddit for folks to discuss marbles. It's a great place to go if you want wanna learn about the names of different types of marbles

and then forget them so you can be delighted by them again the next time you see them. And my browsing has given me the information that a lot of marbles are like a guy's name. They like, like you would call, you know, like if you saw a, you know, a building built by a famous architect. Right, you say, that's a McCaffrey.

There, sure, yeah. But I say, oh, that's a, you know,, that's a John Thompson they'll say about the marbles. Very funny. Sometimes they'll say it's a swirly doo or something. Oh, yeah? I need to spend more time there. But I subscribe to it. I'm loving it.

Great recommendation, Jesse. Loving this marble content. And I think what Reddit got from that was like, oh, this guy's into wholesome shit. Show this guy some more wholesome ass 1950s shit. Like shit that, but I think central to this is shit from the 1950s that can be sorted into categories. Sure, yeah. That you can collect.

Yeah. Sure, yeah. That you can collect. And yeah, so you know, like, I'm like, you know, what am I going to get? Am I an R slash- Bottom caps. Yeah, soapbox derby racer. But I got some posts and I was soon, it was because of this, he loves wholesome shit assumption. I was getting some posts from R slash root beer. What? R slash root beer. Oh my God. And- How am I not already subscribed to R slash root beer. What? R slash root beer.

Oh my God. And- How am I not already subscribed to r slash root beer? I don't know, get out your phone. You can do it right here. R slash root beer. So it's a lot of guys, a lot of like people interested in craft root beer. A lot of guys who make their own root beer.

Oh, that's- But then just a lot of like ranking of grocery store root beer brands. Yeah. And the post that kind of made me fall in love with it was a photo of a like shattered. Joined. There you go. A photo of like a shattered bottle,

you know, with spilled root beer. And the headline was, oh no, I dropped my root beer. And then everybody in the comments was just like, oh man, bummer, I'm sorry you dropped your root beer. Oh, I've been there. Are you sure this isn't code for something? This is so. We'll get there.

You're right to assume that. This has to be like prison slang. Our guest on the program is our friend, stand up comic writer, and now gifted ceramicist, Eliza Skinner. Maybe you were a gifted ceramicist all along, and I only learned about it over the course of the last year or so. No, I've only been doing it that long.

You're good at it, Eliza. Thank you. Eliza Skinner is very good at ceramics. I have a few Skinners at my home. I've been looking at Eliza Skinner's frickicking Etsy page, thinking about maybe my dog Junior, who's here with us chewing on a cheese bone right now, maybe he needs one of those custom dog bowls. Yeah, you know, hey, who knew?

I took some classes starting in April and then I don't have a job, so I go to the Ceramic Studio regular job hours. And if you do it that much, you get good. Oh. Yeah, just sitting around throwing clay over and over and over. Are you bonding with the ceramics folks? Yes, and I'm in fights with some of them.

Oh, boy. They don't seem to know it. Do they know? They do not know what they did. No. OK. But just silently in my head, I'm like, oh, we're in a fight. Oh, boy. Yeah. It's mostly a bunch of middle-aged ladies. It's a real para-menopausal, menopausal kind of scene. Okay. And a few guys who really

know that they are in a precarious and precious situation. Okay. They honor their surroundings. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. I knew a straight guy that went to Sarah Lawrence. So a ceramicist, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. So they know well enough not to go in there

blasting ACDC, chomping on Jimmy John's. No way, if they did it once. They're like, check out my mug, it says Barstool Sports. No, although I did go to another studio for a while, if they did it once. They're like, check out my mug. It says Barstool Sports. Yeah. No, although I did go to another studio for a while, and there was some guy there who just put dicks on everything. And I was like, who is this dick dude?

Yeah. Where like, you know, it would be like cup, cup, bowl, pile of dicks. Bowl, cup, cup on the shelves. Wow. bowl, pile of dicks, bowl, cup, cup on the shelves. Wow. Because he comes out of the kiln, he's got to go to rest on that shelf for picking up or whatever. Yeah, well, and then there's two firings.

There's one that just gets it hard. Gets it hard as the dick and one that glazes to it. Exactly, exactly. So we're seeing these dick pieces for weeks. Sure. It's the process, hardening glazing. Hardening glazing. Were they realistic? Like, were they... No, they're cute little dicks.

Okay. They weren't veiny. They were like a big vase with lots of little guys all over it. Okay. But then, yeah, I mean, it's like, what do they talk about? How much could they have in common, all those different little dicks? Sure. Yeah. Once in a while, when I am at the Pasadena City College flea market, they have a Pasadena City College ceramics department sale that they'll have out on the patio sort of in between the parking lot and the flea market. The work is very

nice and I find myself wondering how many vases my home could accommodate. Yeah, once you dip your toe in. So when I started taking class, I took to it really fast and really enjoyed it. But I looked around my house and was like, oh, I've always liked clay a lot. Like, I realized I have so many ceramics and just hadn't done that on purpose. But every time I would see something made out of clay,

I'm like, ooh, it's so cold and heavy. I like it. Is it, I bet it's nice to get your hands on purpose. But every time I would see something made out of clay, I'm like, ooh, it's so cold and heavy. I like it. I bet it's nice to get your hands in there. Oh yeah. What's great, what's really good for the brain is that when I'm throwing, whatever technique I'm using, you make it, my hands are covered in clay all day. You know what you can't do?

Scroll on your phone. Oh, so you're now more present. Yeah, I'm just not infuriated constantly. I have to like, I have a time. The internet's pretty good at the moment when we're recording this. I've got time set aside to process all the memes my mom sends.

They're not just popping up all day long. That's nice. Yeah. Have a segment of the day for mom meme time. Mommy McClark. Mommy memes. What kind of memes are your mom sending you? What kind of memes are your mom sending you?

I'll tell you right now. Um... They're, uh, it's like... This kind of memes is what my mom's sending me. Oh, my mom sent the memes and the memes are the same. Now it's Gilbert and Sullivan. So mostly cat and dog stuff, but occasionally political stuff, which political humor just instantly feels hack to me at this point. Just hearing the word the president, I'm like, no, don't want it, don't want it,

don't say it. So a lot of that. I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, what does my mom think about this orange cheetah? Oh boy. Yeah, exactly. Man, when... If only there was a satirist who could express her feelings in song. Sure, sure.

I'm not gonna do it. Please don't. Oh god. Yeah, so I do love the break from the scrolling that the clay gives me. Eliza, how much time do you think it would take between writing jobs for you to become a Lady Randy Rainbow? A million billion years because I would never take the first step.

I... Yeah. If I was going to, I would have. You're making a little whistle? No. I could put Joe Biden's name to that. Oh, yeah. And become unusually successful on the Internet. None of the good cash grabs were ever attractive to me.

Just the laborious, slow trickle of money. That's nice. That's attached to the project. Yeah, give me some of that. Jordan and I have been thinking about doing a show just about sports gambling. Sure, yeah. Just moved to sports gambling as a topic.

See, brilliant. Why can't I be like that? I'm a degenerate. Yeah, I'm going to start streaming Minecraft and occasionally I'll say a slur. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm going to be huge for some reason. Reference the chat. Reference the chat.

I will reference the chat, thank you very much. You know, sometimes when things are slow, I'll write a jib jab. Sometimes when things are slow. I don't do it under my name. Sure. Yeah, you've got to protect the brands. You have to. This is Jib Jab by Alan Smithy.

Yeah, if you see an Alan Smithy, that was me. Hey, so what happened with the root beer? I'll tell you what happened with the root beer. So I'm enjoying r slash root beer, and it's nice when there's like, because you know, things can go south on Reddit pretty quick. I have not seen it go south in r slash marbles, but like- It's all north on Reddit. Yeah, right.

And so I'm like scrolling down r slash root beer, looking at all these root beers and- Getting all horned up. Well, I saw one photo someone had posted of the moment when you scoop the ice cream into the root beer float and it bubbles over. And the caption was, here's the money shot. Yeah. So apparently... You've been looking at porn this whole time. Yeah, you saw through the Matrix. That was it. Yeah, I had a scrim. I had a digital scrim over my eyes. To me,

this was all just pictures of root beer. Turns out it wasBea. Yes, it was close-ups of LaBea. I went to Olvera Street here in Los Angeles, which is like, it's like old Spanish Mexican Los Angeles as tourist attraction, but it's a very old tourist attraction. Like a part of Knott's Berry Farm? It's right by Union Station. Okay by union station okay great place to go if you if you need uh what i chase the shoe not the food uh or like family style mexican restaurants there's like six of them uh and there's some some great museums there reunion stations right there i took my kid there put him on a train said goodbye yeah exactly give him a

little little suitcase with stickers on it, little suitcase with stickers of places. This is how you learn. And- Come back when you've made something of yourself. On Olvera Street, like I said- This is how you talk when you send a kid away. Mostly like Mexican restaurants.

My kid was not up for that, but they did want ice cream. So there's this one little tiny hole in the wall that is like a hot dogs and ice cream place that has nothing has changed about it since 1972. Like it is like brown Formica. It is maybe six feet wide. It is just a counter where you can get hot dogs and sodas and soft serve. And I'm like, oh, great. Then my kid says, I want chocolate ice cream. And they go, oh, we only have vanilla.

Oh man. And I'm in deep shit at this point. So I'm like, have you ever had a root beer float? So they got root beer floats there. Frankie goes, no, I've never had a root beer float. I'm like, can we have a root beer float, please? They pour this root beer float. I give it to Frankie.

They look at it. They're like, no, I hate this. Wow. Didn't even try it? Didn't even try it. And I mean, I can imagine being introduced to the concept of a float. If you haven't had like build up,

you haven't seen people on TV having them or something, then yeah, it's just like, oh, you made my ice cream wet. I know. It was Barks root beer, which is caffeinated. And I'm not, I don't usually drink caffeinated drinks because it's a migraine trigger for me. And I'm just looking at it. I'm like, I have a little taste of this root beer float. I don't usually drink caffeinated drinks because it's a migraine trigger for me. I'm just looking at it, I'm like,

I'll have a little taste of this root beer flow. I'm like, mm, you know, soft serve in there. Have a little taste, mm, yum, yum. Like, oh, that's pretty good. Yum, yum, yum. I fucking just downed 16 ounces of- At any point during that process do you say, this is the money shot?

Money shot. Oh yeah. I'm like, oh, seven year old, this is the money shot? Money shot. Oh yeah. I'm like, oh, seven year old, this is what's called the money shot. Nice. Yeah, for a while when I got disease where like it'll flare up and then go away and whatever, but at one point I was real sick.

I had been sick for a long time because healthcare in America, am I right? Sure. I was wasting away. I was been sick for a long time because healthcare in America, am I right? Sure. I was wasting away. I was losing all this weight. Couldn't eat hardly anything except root beer floats. Really? Really? Yeah.

Do you know why or just a mystery? Nope, nope. I just got so desperate. I was like, I don't know, maybe this. And I tried to root beer float one day and it didn't make me. Wow. It didn't put me in pain.

And so I was like, I guess this is what I eat now. Did you try any freezes or? Nope, just root beer floats and lemon cookies. Lemon cookies. Honestly, that's probably a pretty good combo. You can have those both at once. Right? Yeah, it was a great time for me and my illness.

Did you get to a point where this illness sounds like a blast. Did you you get to a point where, this illness sounds like a blast. Did you ever get to a point where you like had root beer brands and ice cream brands that you liked? No. Did you ever think that hard about it? No, and I don't know, I did get the supplies and make it at home,

but I found out by going to a diner. Okay. And I was like, this is what I want. I don't know, something in me is telling me this. Sure. And I was like, this is what I want. I don't know. Something in me is telling me this. And I was like, oh, okay. You listen to your body if your body is telling you to. Exactly. My body wanted that. Jordan, when you said, did you have preferred brand, did you get to the point where you

had preferred brands? I fully went into a reverie imagining Kirkland premium vanilla ice cream being dropped into a Boylan's root beer. Oh, okay. Like, I immediately got locked into that fantasy to such an extent that I forgot we were broadcasting. Oh my gosh. Like, it wasn't like I need to say this in response to Tom's question. I just started thinking about only that. So have you done that as a home float before?

No. That's why I have to live with it in my mind. He's dissociating and planning to make that now. Yeah, I've got to hit up, get a Boilins on my way home. I got the ice cream at the house. Ooh, OK. Going to do some home floating. Yeah, I like a Boilins because it's fruity.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, like a little fruity root beer. Hey, I know a certain subreddit where you are gonna be very popular. Can't wait to hear all about it. Or maybe kind of, maybe Mad, maybe that's a faux pas, maybe people are over boilins, maybe it's too pedestrian, I don't know.

They're probably into like hoppy root beers. Yeah, I think there's probably a lot of that. But there was some people who were just talking about how much they loved dance. IPRB? Hmm? IPRB? Yes, IPARB, it's an IPA, a lot of that, but there was some people who were just talking about how much they loved dance. I-P-R-B?

Yes, I-P-A-R-B. It's an I-P-A, but for our bees. Oh, fuck. Root beers, not our bees. They're a sandwich restaurant. My 11-year-old and I went for a walk around the block with this dog that we're fostering yesterday, and it was real hot out. And I saw the the corner store and I thought, I said, Scarlett, you want to go in there and get a root beer? Guess what they didn't have at the corner store. Really?

Any root beer at all. None root beer. Zero root beers. You and your kids in these root beer stories. I mean, you got to have the root beer to connect with them. We don't have much, Eliza. That's the connection point. Yeah.

I'm actually, now I'm kind of looking at what you said earlier and I was remembering a post on r slash root beer where they were saying they love dads. I think it was daddies and I think I was actually looking at porn all the time. Yeah, see, this is- Okay. Okay. I think you should maybe check, have someone else check your history. Okay, sure.

I need a new browser. Yeah, I mean even this marbles thing, come on. Yeah, this marbles thing could be a lot of stuff. Did you learn anything about root beers in the subreddit? No, I've just done some kind of pleasant browsing. I don't, I like a root beer, but I kind of like try and, I try and make the soda a very occasional thing. It's getting an easy calorie for me to cut out.

Honey, I always thought of you as a creepy pasta guy. What do you mean? For Reddit pages. Oh, I thought you meant for calories. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah, I don't, you know, I'm kind of newish to Reddit. Jesse, I think we've talked about this before, but like.

But you're such a spooky team. No, I know. That pasta's too creepy. too many carbs, too. I You know, I'm kind of new to read it and I think we've talked about it on the show before is like a thing You can kind of mindlessly scroll and you can control how much like whack shit you see Yeah, I mean you want to see the good shit. Mm-hmm. You go on you go on r slash pottery. Oh, yeah Even hanging out there. What's the relationship between r slash pottery and r slash ceramics? Tell me about this Well, pottery seems to be I'm gonna get because there's a lot of drama between r slash MLB and r slash baseball

it seems like pottery a little bit more professional. And usually vessels, you know, not always, but usually. Ceramics, it's wild. Anything goes? Anything goes. Wow. You're seeing mugs, you're seeing bowls, you're seeing little figurines of horse type creatures. Thousands of dicks, thousands of tiny dicks.

Yeah, marching along. Yeah, and the questions make you think, OK, the people in pottery that are asking questions on the pottery page, they kind of know what they're talking about. The ceramics people, sometimes the questions will be like, hey, can I paint this with nail polish? And you're like, oh my god, you fucking loser. No, you can't.

I've been doing this for nine months. Yeah, I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Yeah, nine months with nothing else. Only this. That's like 10 months. I made some stuff at the boys club when I was like 13. Congratulations. Thank you.

I've started mixing my knitting in with the pottery too. OK. How does that work? Well, so far I've just made snakes and kind of made things with holes in them that I can weave the snakes in and out of. OK. But you can knit things and then dip them in slip.

Slip is like liquid clay. Ooh. You know about slip tips. And then you fire it, and the yarn disappears because it's so hot. So it like burns up into infinity. And all you have is the? Is the slip.

Oh, yeah, OK. But my pottery studio won't let me do that, because it'll make smoke. Pfft. Fuck them. And they don't want that smoke. Oh, boy. Man, this is bullshit.

This is total bullshit. You know, I once, I took a wheel throwing class once at the Barnes Doll Art Center. Wow, those are hard to get into. Yeah, the Barnes Doll Art Center. You have to like refresh a page. Yeah, or like line up. You have to go there early in the morning.

Yeah. It's this like, there's a- So that was pre-COVID. There's a city museum of Los Angeles that's on top of this hill with a Frank Lloyd Wright house called the Hollyhock House. And then there's also the Barnes Dahl Arts Center.

This is all just on this one hill. And it always looks closed and it always looks like you might be in the wrong place. Yeah. No matter what time of day it is, no matter whether it's open or closed. Yeah, no. And in order to get in these classes, you have to go there on sign up day. Maybe it's all online now.

But at the time, you had to go there on sign up day. You had to get there at like six. And the sign ups opened up at like nine. You had to bring a lawn chair and just sit with every other artsy 30 year old in all of Los Angeles, just waiting to sign up for whatever class. And I took like a photography class there, which was great. I learned how to operate a camera manually, which I can still do, like change my f-stops

and everything. Yeah, didn't have to use your feet at all. Exactly. And- You're looking for more places to show off your famous prehensile feet, right? That's true. But, the thing, here's the thing, Jordan. I like to take pictures and eat bananas at the same time.

Oh, okay. Sure. You gotta have all the vestiges, all the limbs. Right. So, I was like, what else can I take? And I thought, I'm gonna take a pot-throwing class. That's what I used to think when I was like, what else can I take? And I thought, I'm going to take a pot throwing class. That's what I used to think when I was at shoplift. Uh-huh.

That's how you get taught. That's how you get caught. That's what I used to think. That's what I used to think when my dad would talk to me and give me constructive feedback. Oh, I'm sorry, pal. But I took this class, signed up for this pottery throwing class, and it was taught by this French woman.

No one has ever been so mean to me in my entire life as this French woman and her just contempt for my inability to pull a fucking vase out of a piece of clay on a wheel. She was only mean to you? Yeah. She was really nice to everybody else and so she'd be like, wow, good.

You're doing better than the last one. You, fuck yourself. Fuck yourself with that pot. Did you go to class doing your sketch comedy character led Jesse Thorne? I did. Who was always smoking and carrying a baguette. Yeah, with the beret.

I did. She was so mad at me. She hated me. She was like, she liked the people that were good at it. And then me was sort of like, she's just sort of spat on me over her shoulder kind of deal, you know what I mean?

Just contempt. Yeah. It wasn't, it was not like she berated me. She'd just like look at me and then like shake her head a little bit like, this isn't even worth my time. Yeah, sometimes you can just sense people, sense things about people by the way they throw. Sure. Have you had instructors in your time as a ceramicist?

I have. They run the gamut. Okay. There, it attracts some kooky fun folks. Okay. I would assume so. That's, yeah, that tracks to me. Real into it. Okay. But also, you know, it's LA.

So everybody has some sort of former or current, at this point former industry job. So they'll be like, all right, so this is how you make a fluted edge. And oh, yeah, one time I was working with Nick Cage. And it's like on bowls? Oh, no, no. I'm Justin Barth.

I was in the National Treasure Films. Yeah, and I had one that I kept wanting to be like, just tell me what you were, stunt woman, weren't you? Tell me you were a stunt woman. Yeah. Slide over the hood of the car. Slide over the hood of the car. Slide over the hood of the car, please. I know you can do it.

Where there is now a video store near my house was a ceramic studio for a number of years. It was a ceramic studio when we moved in. And I met like some of the, they would have a sale on the sidewalk every once in a while. And I would meet the ladies there. And I would characterize these ladies as Eliza Skinner types, largely. These were pretty sophisticated between the ages of 28 and 45.

And the woman who owned and ran the studio, I knew primarily because she seemed to always be smoking cigarettes out front. That's how you meet people. Just smoking cigarettes. That's why adults don't have friends anymore. That's true, because, yeah, once smoking. Because nobody's outside smoking. She'd just be throwing, you know, just like, you know that kind of like smoking a cigarette,

like you're really fucking mad at cigarettes? Like, oh, fucking cigarettes. Get on the ground, get stepped on by me, step on it. And I thought it was just me that like, I feel like this lady is always just out there mad dogging anyone who passes by and smoking cigarettes, which is a weird thing for a lady that owns a pottery studio. And then my wife showed me like the Yelp reviews for the pottery studio. And they were, it just went like five stars, five stars, five stars, one star, all she does is smoke cigarettes during class outside.

So she leaves the class. She's like, keep going. And just leaves. Just to go outside and angrily smoke cigarettes. I need to stare at the class. She's like, keep going. And just leaves. Just to go outside and angrily smoke cigarettes. I need to stare at the horizon. I've had some neighbor drama recently. Ooh.

Let's hear about it. That involves standing outside and smoking cigarettes. OK. So there are these people who live at the end of the block in an apartment where they keep the door open all the time. So you walk past when you're walking the dog. You can tell, oh people are home, maybe they're having a party, whatever. And for a while, it's like two women, and for a while they were, they would like have parties and stuff and sometimes they would go

outside, like there would be like a little cloud of ladies outside smoking, they would like puff out the door and then puff back in a while later. Smoking cigarettes? Wow. And I remember one time I walked by with my dog and he'll kind of start to, he wants to walk up to everybody. He's like, are you my future obsession? Nice guy.

Yeah. And so I'll kind of hold him back and like just read them and be like, do you want to talk to my dog? And if they seem, if they're ignoring him, I'm like, come on, let's get out of here, bud. Actually, the phrase that gets him to leave people alone is they're busy. Oh, okay. So I'll be like, they're busy.

It's okay. They're busy. Because I bet that is as a dog owner. I bet that is like, oh, my dog coming up to this person, it might make their day. Yeah. Or they might hate it. Yeah. Pretty much. My neighborhood completely full of 73-year-old Central

American women who are 4 foot 10, who my dog is the sweetest dog in the world. But he would absolutely knock them two blocks just by sitting down to be petted. This dog here? Yes. Yeah, yeah. That's an energetic dog. My guy is real small.

So anyway, we walk up to this group of girls and they want to talk to him. I'm like, oh, good. OK. And so they talk to him and I was like, thanks for being nice to him. I'm like, oh my god, he's so great. We love him.

They're all, they're all. Of course they love him. They're all loving him. Fucking boo, we're talking about boo. Yeah, Boo Barry Jones. He's the best dog in the world. They love him. They're all loving him. Of course they love him! They're all loving him. Fucking Boo! We're talking about Boo! Yeah, Boo Barry Jones.

He's the best dog in the world. So, about six months later, not seeing parties anymore. One of the roommates leaves, there's a new one. The one who stays, see her outside one time, dressed up for a date, some new guy. Boo starts, Boo's like, oh, I know her, walking up to her, walking walking up to her and she will not look at him oh boy and so I do I do they're like oh they're busy and she's like yeah busy dog whoa like yeah and I was like wait you liked my dog before is this some what's this act for this dude? Right. Like... What kind of dude is this?

What kind of performance? And he's a giant cat. Yeah. Walking on two feet. No, it was really weird. I was like, so now you don't like dogs? Right. So anyway, another thing that...

So now the dude has moved in. Sure. Okay. And the two roommates and the dude all love standing out underneath other people's windows smoking cigarettes. Okay. Sometimes smoking other people's windows smoking cigarettes. Okay. Sometimes smoking weed, usually just smoking cigarettes. They'll like walk down the street so they can smoke cigarettes outside of somebody else's

place. Who are these people smoking cigarettes? 2024. I don't know. And you're supposed to blow fat clouds. They hate dogs. So if you walk by with your little teeny tiny dog, they're like, and one of myrr, grrr, grrr, grrr. And one of my neighbors was walking by with their little teeny tiny dog, which is even

tinier than my dog, well, Brussels Griffin, I think. Like, the type of dog we're- Is that its name or its breed? No, that's the type of dog. It's the type of dog. Brussels Griffin is a good name for a dog. It's a good name for a man, too. Yeah.

A solid dude, Brussels. A bank owner. Yeah. Maybe a studio head. Yeah, he's got a boat. It's a sailboat though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come out.

I feel like if you're going to have that name, your stepmom's better be Joan Diddy. God damn it. So anyway, you're picturing a dog. If you're going to have that name, your stepmom better be Joan Diddy. There you go. That's what she said. So you pictured a little dog. The kind of dog, so little, if you were picking apart the organs inside of it, the bladder

has got to be maybe a grape. Maybe like a teeny tiny. I can picture the dog now that I know what its bladder size is. So my neighbor's walking this teeny tiny dog past this cabal of smokers huddled in between other people's cars. Smoking dog haters. Are they young, cool guys? No.

They're younger than everyone else on the block. Okay. But so anyway, and the dog in the middle of the street, lifts his leg. Peace. And the dude is like, did your dog just fucking piss on my car? Whoa, geez. And my neighbor's like, uh, maybe I don't know. I didn't probably. And the, they all explode and are like, control your dog. That's my, how rude. Like they go nuts. It's this whole, like, neighbors are like opening their windows and like peering out, like, what's even happening? I myself, so excited that this is happening and I'm not involved in it. I'm like,

it wasn't my fault. They ended up like kind of clearing it out and scattering. But I'm like, what a, what an insane, oh, oh, also the neighbor was like, the one with the dog was like, well, it's kind of rude for you to like stand outside and smoke underneath people's windows. And they're like, oh, nice comeback, nice. So that's the tension that we're working with on my blog.

Sounds like a wild sea. I know, it's like... These are people you live around. Active, like, loud dislike of dogs. Like, that is... Is it just a thing where, like, you say the Beatles are overrated and then you just lean into it, Is that just like become their personality? If you're scared of dogs, right?

I understand that. Sure, sure. Or if somebody's walking like a huge dog and just like soaks the wheel well in urine. Sure, fine. Yeah. And there's like dog overreach is a thing. And sometimes there's a dog and you wish it wasn't there

and the people aren't watching the dog. It's like it happens. Are you talking about my dog being here right now? No no no I'm talking about no. Because my dog happens to be sleeping on your toes right now. He's being lovely. He absolutely opened his eyes when you asked that. He's being a good boy. I guess I'm talking of you know like some people bring the dog in somewhere. Yeah people want dog free time and dog free spaces but the middle of the street is not one of those. Here's one thing that I've noticed as a dog owner. I wasn't a dog owner for much of my life. And then for the past 15 ish years, I've been a dog owner. Something I've noticed is that people who don't own and don't like dogs believe

that I can tell my dog where it should go pee. Yeah, or that your dog can use a toilet. Sure. Like, where do you want it to go? If you don't want it in the street, you don't want it in your garden, right? You don't want it in your lawn, you don't want it in the street, you don't want it on a train, you don't want it in the rain, you don't want it...

That dog should be peeing in your house. Sure. I mean, I've told you, I think you've seen the sign that another neighbor put up on a wall that's in between some garbage cans and an alley. They put up a wall, a metal sign. They attached to the cement wall that says, this is not your dog's piss wall. This is our home. So like go someplace else.

Maybe say pee-pee wall. Right? I'm like, so having a sign that says piss wall is better than having some dog pee on this wall. Also, like here's my question. Which one is my dog's piss wall? Because I genuinely don't know. Yeah, because we keep looking for it.

He seems to think it's all of them. Yeah, he's been trying lots of different ones to see if we can figure out which one it is. I bet the phrase dog piss wall would look great in that heavy metal font, you know, that's hard to read. It's a cool band name. Yeah. But also, in my neighborhood, every time I do see these signs that are like, clean up after your dog, absolutely.

Sure, sure. They're like, don't let your dog pee, you know, if it's on somebody's lawn. Yeah, sure. In this house, we believe science is real and you should not let your dog pee. You know, if it's on somebody's lawn, yeah, sure. In this house, we believe science is real, and you should not let your dog piss on my wall. But I'm always like, do the coyotes read that sign? Sure, yeah. Because my neighborhood is full of coyotes,

raccoons, skunks. Possums. Possums. If you're detecting piss. Yeah, if you're smelling stinky piss, it is coyote. Sure. Because those guys forget to drink water. You know who loves to piss on walls?

Yes, they love asparagus. Yeah. You know who loves to piss on walls? Coyotes. Fucking guys that smoke underneath other people's windows. Yeah, right? That's your number one wall pisser. Sorry, did I derail this, but with my story.

That was really good. Your dog Boo Barry recently acquired a cat sibling. Is that correct? Yeah. Well, so my neighbor, another neighbor, found a cat in the dumpster of her apartment building. And I got a call from two other neighbors that were like, this woman, she found a cat, dumpster.

You have to help. She's been calling the shelters. And the shelters say, leave him on the street. We don't want him. So what are we gonna do? And I was like, okay, I can take him for tonight. And that was like a month ago, month and a half ago. And the cat is obsessed with,

this cat, I won the cat lottery, like perfect kitten. Very cool, very gorgeous. Do you think it's gonna grow up to be an MC? Like a scat cat? I mean I don't know. I'm hoping... Depends on if he hits it off with Paul Abdull. Yeah, yeah. I'm getting more of like a singer-songwriter vibe. Oh sure. Like a Cat Stevens. Yeah, exactly. I'll tell you what, at my house, we came very close to adding a cat. But my seven-year-old Frankie, the one who

hates root beer floats, said they were the one behind the cat plan. They've been claiming to be half cat for many years. And they went to pet a cat and learned they were allergic to cats. Oh, wow. You know, I don't know everybody's deal, but a lot of cat allergies exposure

will help out with that. I used to. So just cover yourself in cats. See if you can find a bin of cats to go down into. No, I mean, but when I started going to... When I left my house to go to college, I would come back at, you know, at semester breaks and get hives from my family cat. Oh, yeah.

And then that would be fine. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Well, don't tell Frankie, okay? Yeah. How does Frankie feel about hives? You could say like, and you get to have hives for a little bit. I know Frankie is into the hives. They're really into the whole kind of like garage.

I mean, that's just the way that I get allergies. Maybe their throat will close up. Who knows? Everybody does allergies different ways. Yeah. Hey, let us we're gonna take a break but let us know, how do you allergies? I'm going to find out if Frankie prefers the yeah, yeah, yeah's or chick, chick, chick. Sure. We'll be back in just a second. I think it's just yeah, yeah, yeah's, Jesse. I don't think there's a that. Oh, god damn it.

I know. There was a that in most of the other band. I remembered that the exclamation mark band was supposed to be pronounced chick, chick, chick. You did. That was great. Yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, I mostly like rap music, you know?

Yeah, yeah. You got it mostly right. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Goh. It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morrisi Goh. I'm Jesse Thorn, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Our thanks to the members of Maximum Fund for supporting this program. Every single episode of Jordan Jessi Goh is made possible by people who have gone to MaximumFund.org

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There you go. See, this is like that, but through hearing and not looking. If you want to share a message with other Jordan,iGo listeners, you can go to maximumfun.org slash jumbotron. This is a message for Aaron from Lizzie. Here is the message. Happy birthday, Bun.

Hope you have the best year. You're my favorite dog, Dad, and you smell like lasagna. Besos! That was the message. Well, the! That was the message. Well, the first half was the message, the second half was you had a stroke. Yeah. Yes.

Someone, call an ambulance. Yeah. First of all, his name is clearly Aaron, not Bun. Well, that's in the message. I'm just reading the message. I don't know. Do you think Aaron wants to know that it's Bun B's from UGK's birthday? Is that what's going on here? I think maybe he's a fan. Anyway, I mean, who isn't? Fucking legend on BLADs. MaximumFun.org slash Jumbotron

if you want to get up on the Jumbotron. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan. Jesse You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it.

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You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. Jordan. Nope. All the years. And they won't. We're not saying you shouldn't come in here. Listen, if you're listening to the show. That makes it sound like I'm gonna die.

No, no, no. We're just saying. Gun down in her prime, clankety car. The jersey goes to the rafters. We're having your tombstone carved. We'll say clankety car. My parents will be so surprised. Yeah. We all knew her. She was delightful. We'll say Clankety Carr. My parents will be so surprised.

We all knew her. She was delightful. No, I just, you know, I want to say, I don't want people to feel bad when they come in here with like a pretty good nickname that we all like. And they just, oh, I assume this is going to like be hoisted up into the rafters with Clankety Carr. It won't. Just, and don't beat yourself up.

You can still be a good guest. You can still have fun on this show, but it's just not going to happen. Yeah. You're not going to end up in our gallery of monuments. Sure. Out in center field. You will not. Sorry.

But that doesn't mean you're not a great guest. So- You might be a great guest. Sure. So it's okay, Steve H. the next time. And we'd love to have you back. Yeah, Steve, we're always happy to see you. It's-ing. I would love to have you back. Yeah Steve we're always happy to see you. It's not about that. Always glad to see Steve. What's his nickname? Oh I don't know he's had a couple and they've been good. I try having different ones and you guys were like no back to the car. It's tough. I'm sure you feel like a legacy band

who's playing the hits. No I mean mean, hey, if it makes you happy, you know, it's just if I wouldn't like it if it was like, oh, not again. No, no, no. Yeah. But if it's like always dinging the bell, then sure, yeah, clang, clang. I mean, you know, Nick Repeat Adams comes in as Repeat and owns it. And he's classic. He was one of our first Repeat guests.

Absolutely. If not our first Repeat guest. Mm-hmm. So I think there's a certain tier of guests. Ooh. It's, you know, it's five or six people. Wow, tiers of a guest. Yes.

When something momentous happens to you, give us a call at 206-984-4FUN or, even better, send a voice memo to jjgo atmaximumfun.org as has this person. Hello, Jordan and Jesse and special guest. I'm going to say Steve Poschimi. I'm calling them with a momentous occasion. I recently ordered myself some new shoelaces off of Amazon that were bright orange. Okay. I recently got some new sneakers that were sort of navy blue and came with accompanying

navy blue laces and I was really surprised today when I relaced them and saw how much the orange popped against the navy blue and I love it and it's great and my life is a lot better now. So, thanks for the show. Appreciate you guys. and it's great. And my life is a lot better now. So thanks for the show. Appreciate you guys, have a good one. Hey, no problem. We appreciate you too. Thanks for bringing the fucking heat on this segment.

I bet that color pops like, wow! Something I learned that is in my brain and will not leave is that orange and blue look together is because they're at opposite ends of the color wheel. Yeah, they're complementary colors. And I don't, cannot picture the color wheel. I don't know what other colors are on it. It's always right on the tip of my brain.

I can access it at any moment. Wow. I'm walking down the street and you can be like, oh, yeah, what's the opposite of purple? I'll be like, yellow, fool. Oh, man. You're a fucking color wheel, Savant? Hello.

Wow. Sounds like this guy has Orioles shoes, right? Is that right? No, that's black. Maybe M this guy has Oriole shoes, right? Is that right? No, that's black. Maybe Mets shoes. Mets shoes. Mets shoes. You know, the Mets have orange and blue because of the teams that left New York City.

The Dodgers blue and the Giants orange. Oh, that's kind of morbid. It is a little sad. It's like wearing the skins of your enemies. Yeah. Yeah, and they also wear the skins of their enemies. Oh yeah. Those are the away jerseys.

Yeah. That's why they have their Jeter skin or whatever. Stitched together, yeah. That's why you don't see them in the playoffs. Yeah, sure. It slows you down. It does. Yes, human skin.

Yeah, if you're trying to steal third. Yeah, and if you have like the face over your face and it's like slipping down, you can't see through the eye holes. You're going to want something like a lamb skin. Right. Something you'd make into a condom. Sure. You want the thin holes. You're going to want something like a lambskin.

Right. Something you'd make into a condom. Mm-hmm. Sure. You want the thinness. Yeah, yeah. The thin durability. Yeah, we got it.

Great if you have a latex allergy and you're playing baseball for the Mets. Yeah. What are we talking about? That's correct. Yes. Yeah. Tie it all together.

Tie it all together. Oh, I will. It all adds up. Sure. To a good show. Speaking of good, oh fuck we already played the woman's occasion. I was about to set it up, but that was it. Oh, we played it. It's just something about the shoelaces. Speaking of good, it's good when people call, but that was the call.

I'll tell you what, I have some Adidas sneakers, I have those round laces, and I got my laces dirty, and fucked them up somehow. Maybe they dog-shoot them. I can't remember. Something was wrong with my laces. You were living your life.

So, I went to a fucking specialty shoelace website that sells special shoelaces just for fucking Adidas sneakers with round laces and shit. And they were three for something. So now I got three pairs of shoelaces. See, but where are you putting those extra shoelaces? I know right now they're on top of my dresser and every time I look at them, I think, should I switch? There's no place for them. There's no place for them. I have a few sneakers that have

come with extra laces because they're like, wow, these look good with white, but wouldn't it look good with purple also? And I'm like, you're right, sneaker. And then where do I put the extra ones? Oh, sneaker, you're always right. They're just always resting on something where I can kind of see them. Sneaker, you're right.

I should have divorced Frank five years ago. Why don't you listen to me? Yeah, so like extra shoelaces, it's just, there's no place that it goes. There's no junk drawer for that. Yeah, I have a box in my bathroom for extra laces. Oh, this feels very disturbing. I've got a great collection of laces.

Sounding kind of Buffalo Billy there. It's definitely sexual. This is the root beer page all over again. You don't know how it's sexual to them, but it definitely is. I'm going to tie those in a double knot. I'm going to double knot them. Have you guys ever visited Ian's shoelace website? No.

But I have some custom lace locks. Really? Yeah, you know, like Air Force Ones have the little metal thing down by the bottom of the... Oh, sure. Oh, yeah, like the little placard down at the bottom. Yeah, I got ones that say boo. Hey.

Does your dog wear sneakers? No, but I do. Yeah, for a while there, after I first got him, and it was the pandemic, but I still had money, I had to sometimes check and make sure I was only wearing one thing with his name on it. Because I could leave the house in a whole outfit. Sure. We have no choice but to stand a legend.

Sure. Yeah, you know, and I had nothing to spend my money on or generate dopamine. Well, because I couldn't make sourdough bread. So. Right, yeah. You just gotta buy dog stuff. Left buying dog stuff. Yeah. You know, airbrushed sweatpants. Hats. Obviously the bag that it carried him around in. Ian's Shoelace website is a website that is like, it's like a circa 2002 type website. Oh, we're talking GeoCities? Not?

Talking like flashing. Just post GeoCities, immediately post GeoCities. Okay, so like MySpace? Like it does have a Space Jam website. Probably has tables, you know what I mean? OK. I mean, that feels GeoCities to me, but OK. All right.

It's a little after GeoCities. I don't think there's any blinking GIFs. OK. But it is just a compendium of ways to tie your shoelaces. Oh, like fancy knots? I love this website. I love these knots. Don't.

Oh, Jesse. Love these nasty little knots. All right, hold on. Jesse. Tie them and let them loose. Okay, you've got a lace thing. Don't foist it on us. Bad news, Jordan. You like laces too now, you nasty bitch.

No, I don't. I'm wearing slip-ons. I'm wearing slip-ons. I do not consent to being a part of this. I'm the only one in the room with laces. Okay, you're right. That's true. It feels...

I'm wearing a gore-sided boot. ...threatening. Chelsea boots. Yeah, there you go. See, you can talk about shoes in a normal way. You don't have to be all... Wouldn't you love to lace up these Chelsea boots? Oh, man!

Maybe wrap them around. I hope I'm not coming off as uptight. Blah! Some of the biggest lolling I've ever seen you do, tongue-wise. Oh, yeah. Oh, I can lol. Some vintage Bugs Bunny freak out. Right. Yes.

Ooh, ooh, ah, ooh, ah. Yes, when that witch feeds him potion. Mm-hmm. Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh. Yeah, you can see the ears twirling all up when you do that. Mm-hmm. Guys, I'm gonna just check out this map

and see if I can find my way to Kalamazoo. Can we do that and then we'll come back for a little bit more? I'm gonna go work on Ian's Secure Knot. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Goh. Say you like video games and who doesn't? I mean, some people probably don't. OK, but a lot of people do. So say you're one of those people and you feel like you don't really have anyone

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Eliza Skinner, Clankety Car. Eliza, what greater joy could there be than to have Eliza Skinner on Jordan Jesse Goh? I can think of few such sweet pleasures as that. Gosh, I don't know, maybe having a big frosty mug full of root beer. And tie in your shoelaces, tie in your shoelaces. Yeah, and you put some ice cream right in that root beer. Plop splash, oh it's so bubbly,, the foam is, air is so messy. I gotta make some of my special pottery. I'm gonna, everything can be gross.

No, don't ruin pottery. And beautiful. Wow. I love you, my dog, Junior. Like bodies. Yes, like bodies. Gross and beautiful. All beautiful and disgusting.

Yep. Eliza, I really genuinely like, look, we don't have a lot of guests on Jordan and Jesse Go, where we're going to plug their Etsy. But I'm right here. I'm going to plug Eliza Skinner's Etsy because it whips tail. Thank you. Will it come up if people just search for Eliza Skinner Etsy, because it whips tail. Thank you. Will it come up if people just search for Eliza Skinner Etsy? I think so, but it's actually named after my dog.

So it's BooBerryJones.Etsy.com. We'll do link in the description. I came to a craft fair that you put on at the Lyric Hyperion Theater. Tons of fun. If you're in the LA area, go to the next one. Can I tell you, I searched for Eliza Skinner, Etsy, to see if it would work.

And it pulled up links to your social media that have links to the Etsy. But the first Etsy thing, link that came up after some posts from You from Threads and so on and so forth, was just Etsy steamed hams meme. Wow. Send me that link.

I don't know why. Why is that? Check out our steamed hams meme selection for the very best and unique or custom handmade pieces from our mugs shops. Yeah, no, I have no explanation for that. Do you have any like, it's a Simpsons meme. It's a Simpsons thing Yeah, no, okay. We got a hook Eliza and Bill Oakley up together. Oh, yeah sure Money at the craft fair. I got a couple of pieces

I got some stuff for holiday gift giving and some stuff for daddy, which is me I got hey, I got a Skinner coffee mug, which I've been using daily. Oh, yay. It says, it has a skull and crossbones, and it says poison, but poison is crossed out, and it says not poison. Yeah, it says, it's fine, yum. And I got a magnet from the fridge to say yum. It's fun to drink out of.

Yeah, a few people had their eye on that. Oh, no, I'm glad I scooped it up. It's beautiful and also just a great functional mug too. Good, I'm glad. And a magnet for the fridge that's a blue ribbon that says, hell yeah. It brings me delight every time I look at it. Yay! Well, yeah, I have my little monsters are popular, my tentacle vases.

And yeah, I do have little magnets for you guys. Really? It's a bat that says bat. It says bat! Oh, I love it! It's really good. This is very good.

It's a good thing to do with like the little extra bits and glides. You probably have a lot of bits. Yeah, yeah. Jordan, it doesn't just say bat. It says bat! Yeah, there's an extra mention point. Bat! You know what?

Hit Eliza Skinner up on Instagram. Good follow. Check out those fucking amazing tentacle vases. Fucking tentacles slurping around on them. Lots of slurping. Demon vases. Got a lot of demons, monsters, all that stuff. It's one of the great Instagrams, cause you're getting, you're getting

fucking Boo Berry Jones content. You're getting fucking ceramics, and then you're getting a brilliant humorous to like the Skinner as well. That's good stuff. Yeah. Handmade sweaters have been featured also. Wow.

She's out here making, now that looks like a sweater that somebody really knows their color wheel made. It's true because it was made by me. And I got it all fucking up here every minute. It's all off the dome, all off the dome. That's what they teach you at those fancy East Coast private universities, color wheels. Yeah, I didn't even go to school for any of that stuff.

I went to school for TV. So you learned that shit on the streets. Yeah, yeah. Before my parents could teach it to me. Yeah. It's a little something called practical. That's what happens when you don't teach your kids about the color wheel early.

They get it in the streets. They're just gonna learn about it. From their friends, you know. From some young punk on the playground. From somebody's older brother or sister. Right, they have a color magazine. Yeah, we found it in a stump. Oh, blue!

Oh, dude, look at this month's blue! Magazine Check out miss green Anyway, saying stuff from earlier. That's what you say when you come, right? Ooh, the witch gave me potion. Who wants a float? Down here we all float. Yes, that's what Pennywise says when he adds ice cream to root beer. And comes. And comes. I just choose, I don't know. Well, our producer on the show, Stephen Ray Morris, our theme music is Love You by The

Free Designer. Thanks to The Free Design and to their label, Light in the Attic Records. You can find us on Reddit at maximumfund.reddit.com. You can find us on Instagram at jordanjessegopod, at jordandavidmorris, and at jessethorn, very famous. Here's the thing, somebody named Jesse Thorne took Jesse Thorne, they never fucking put anything on there. That's my squatting.

But they can't steal it. That happened on my TikTok, that's why I'm real Iza Skinner on TikTok. Because there's a fake Iza Skinner who got there first. Motherfucker. Anyway, I got the guy to delete, there was a fake Jesse Thorne, like a real fake Jesse Thorne that I got them to delete, but they wouldn't give me Jesse Thorne, like a real fake Jesse Thorne that I got them to delete, but they wouldn't give me Jesse Thorne. But they were like posting your photo and stuff?

Yeah. Weird. That's what the fake TikTok did for me. Are they trying to get you to pay for it? Is that what they're doing? For a long time, I- I think they're just trying to get views. Yeah, who knows?

Anyway, the moral of this story is follow Eliza Skinner on Instagram so you can check out these pots. And so you can check out Boo Barry Jones, one of the fucking world champion dogs. Okay, we'll talk to you next time on Jordan Jessico. Bye-bye. I'll hug you and kiss you and love you. Love you. Love you.

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