Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Nightwing's Butt, with Meghan Fitzmartin

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

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Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Unto the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and sucks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, getting ready to enter the conversation pit. Okay, so the conversation pit is a segment on the show that may have had different names at different times. Yes.

And this is really just a function of the fact. that Jordan, you no longer participate in what is known as the quote-unquote real world. No, yeah. Done with it. You just travel from three-day nerd gathering to three-day nerd gathering. This is my life. Hawking your wares. Right. Your wares being,

of course, the award winning and acclaimed graphic novels, Bubble and Youth Group. Uh-huh. As well as a Godzilla comic book and a Spider-Man. Yes, exactly. I don't know that any of them have won awards. Okay. Well, award nominated. One was award nominated.

Bubble. Yeah. And I think my mom enjoyed them all, so that's a kind of an award you get from the ones you love. Anyway, yes. I mean, apologies to if anyone out there. My mom didn't care for them. That's okay. Right. Judy has some notes.

Sure. Judy's more of a Frank Miller fan. Honestly, Judy has notes for Gail. Oh. Judy would like Gail to step up her critical game. So your mom is now critiquing other moms? Well, my mom has a, my mom has an advanced degree as a former humanities professor. It's sort of what she's got to do.

And raised a wonderful son. So, who better? Thank you so much. An expert as far as I'm concerned. Has never been able to sustain a romantic relationship. Well, she's too busy worrying about her son. There you go. Yeah.

Do you have a son? No, I got to get a son. I'm working on it. Okay, great. Go ahead. Continue. I've made my piece. Steven's applauding.

I've made my peace with this. Yeah. So, and again, I don't know, I have not heard any complaints, but sorry, if anyone's, like, tired of, like, con-based chat, I apologize. There's been a lot of it. I love it because it's a fascinating world to me. It's a world. I've really only visited, you know, from the outside. When Bubble the podcast was out, we went and did some stuff.

I went to the anime Expo with my youngest child, and I went as press. once to San Diego Comic-Con and was surprised that it really was that smelly. Right. Like that wasn't just a joke about it. Right. That that was a real thing. But no, I mean, I think I did, I did want to specifically talk to you about it because we did L.A. Comic-Con this weekend. You were my table buddy for a day.

Yeah. I had books. You had some of the weirder and wonderfuler stuff from the Put This On Shop. Yeah. And I just kind of wanted, I wanted to get your perspective on it. How did you feel, you know, behind the old Fulton table? I mean, I'm angry that literally no one bought the Doctor Who annual book that I brought. Yeah, that was weird.

Come on, somebody buy that. Sure. Who do you think I'm going to sell that to? One of these pocket square assholes? First of all, I had a great time. It was fun. I just, I loved getting to, you and I don't get to hang out for that much time in a row in that, in that sort of. relaxed an environment. When I say relaxed environment, I mean, we had very few customers.

Right. Our conversation wasn't interrupted by people wanting to give us money for the things we were selling. Everyone that came up to us, though, was pretty interesting and charming. Yes. Because we had so much time, we could sort of engage them in a little conversation. We saw the Santa Claus with a lightsaber that we see at these things from time to time. He's a very nice man who listens to Jordan Jesse Go. Shout out to Lightsever Santa. And, yeah, overall, I had a great time at one point. I, you went to get snacks, offered to get me a Fanta, brought me back a 20-ounce can,

which anytime you're drinking a tall boy, a Fanta, you can't be that mad. Right, you put it in a paper bag, too, so the cops wouldn't see. So you could still take it on the bus. Yeah, no, it was a lot of fun. You, you, the stuff from the Put This On shop was truly, truly wild, truly wonderful. One of the things you brought, and a lot of this was stuff you had brought back from Mexico from a recent trip to a Mexican flea market. I just got back from Mexico City, and so I had copped, as they say, I figured what do geeks at the Comic Con like, right? And I didn't have a lot of specifically comic book related things, but I had wrestling-related things.

I had people like wrestling. That's down the middle, yeah. So I had some Mexican wrestling, some Lucha Libre magazines, and figurines. I was like, oh, they probably like Ultraman. So I brought an Ultraman that I had, or Ultraman villain that I had. Right. Or monster, Kaiju. I brought like, oh, I brought that disembodied head.

So, yeah, I wanted to talk about the head. Sure. You know, let's put a pin in the head for a second. Also, you know, so you kind of laid out the things on the table. You brought a cart. What are we making a Hellraiser movie? All right, hold on. Hold on with the great jokes, Jesse.

I'm trying to tell a story. Okay. You know, you had a cart with you and you kind of laid the things out, but you had more stuff in the cart. Yeah. And I was always impressed the things that came out of the cart based on who was looking at the table. There was a guy who came over. He was looking at some stuff. I could tell that he liked it, but maybe he didn't see the perfect thing.

and then you said to him, hey, do you want to see a little saddle? And you brought out the world's tiniest saddle. Yeah. And I think the guy did not end up buying it, but he thought about it. He probably was fucking fondling it. Yeah. Still available for sale and put this on shop.com. It's a tiny saddle.

I mean, it's a roughly, what would you say, a cat-sized saddle? Yeah, I think a cat could ride the saddle. Yeah. I don't know what it would. Or like a chihuahua. Maybe a chihuahua. Yeah. So, you know, I was impressed the.

a variety of things that were coming out of your Mary Poppins purse-like crates. I mean, that guy that handled the saddle, normally my wheelhouse is, it's a direct proportional relationship. The more rings a dude is wearing, the more things I'm going to sell them. Right. He had probably, what would you say, 14 rings? Sure. I didn't see his toes or penis, but he probably had, yeah, at least that.

And he didn't even buy that, he didn't even buy that tiny saddle for me. That was a bummer. I'm sorry. I was sorry that didn't happen. But you also had a head with tubes coming out of it. Three tubes. Three tubes. And you don't know anything about this head.

So I know it's Mexican. Yeah. Or at least that I purchased it in Mexico. It could have traveled from lands, you know, might as, it's entirely possible. It's Hungarian, just a Hungarian brought it to Mexico to break a curse. Sure. But it is, it looks like a CPR head maybe, but it's pretty realistic for a CPR head. Beautiful mouth.

And it has three. clear tubes coming out of its neck hole, next stump, you know, where the stump would be on the, you know, when the working class rises up. Right. Then, and then tubes. Yeah, the head did not sell, but today, we're taping this on a Sunday. It came from the last day of the con. While I was there on Sunday, this kind of like, this kind of a shifty guy came up to the table. At the L.A. Comic-A.?

At the L.A. Comic-Cond? There's a shifty guy? Kind of a shifty guy looking every which way. Kind of a quiet guy slinking around. You just came up to me and said, Hey, you still got that head? Oh, my God! This guy had seen the head.

And I had to tell, no, that was my buddy who was here. So I pointed him toward the put this on shop online. So hopefully he dropped us a line and we can sell him the head. But there was a guy who wanted the head. He thought about it. He's like, ah, he clearly been thinking about the head since Friday and maybe he was ready to pull the trigger. Unbelievable. You got to buy it when you see it.

Hey, still got that head. The time to buy it. And you're like, yeah, let's go to the bathroom. 40 bucks, buddy. I'm going to take a break in about 20 minutes. Daddy's not selling a lot of Godzilla's. These churros are expensive. I do think that even though I sold $50 worth of Lucha Libre magazines to a man who is working on an art project.

Yeah. And I sold a few wrestlers. Yeah. You know, I think I may have lost money given our spending on pound cake. Sure. Yeah, we bought some because they were there, convention center treats to keep our energy up. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know that, listen, I mean, do we need to do the math and bum ourselves out? I don't think so.

No, I don't think so. Let's just say that we gained something and also had an experience. Indeed. We both gained something and had an experience. And had an experience. And had an experience. Was anything different on day two and three? Because I was there with you on Friday, and then Saturday, our friend Eliza Skinner was there with you.

Sunday, our friend Rob Cutner was there. Yeah, and Saturday was the busiest day. And, yeah, sales were a little pepier then. And today I probably could have taken a nap. No, but I did meet a lot. I did, you know, it's always great to when a Jordan, Jesse go, listener comes up to the table. I always like to talk to them. They're always nice folks.

And if they haven't read the books already, they usually make a purchase. And I appreciate that, although it's not necessary. Nice to meet people. And yeah, I always have a couple of those experiences. And I'm like, hey, these listeners are great. To me, it's necessary. Okay. How about this?

Jesse demands your money. Either buy something from Jordan or. give him $40 over in the bathroom. Yeah. I got churros to buy. This guy's got to buy churros. Jordan,

here's something nice. Ooh, I do like nice thing. That grew out of our experience at L.A. Comic-Con. Something above and beyond, simply, a few Lucha Libre magazines sold. A few copies of bubble and youth group sold. A few churos consume.

a new friend was made by me. An old friend for you. Sure. A true and steady friend for you, friend. But a new friend for me. She is a television writer. She is a podcast writer. She is a comic book writer.

And by text message, I have had it suggested to me that she is the one who canonically made Robin Gay. Megan Fitzmartin. Hi, Megan. How are you? Hello. That is definitely my claim to fame.

Thanks for having me. That's fantastic. Did you have to, when that took place in Amazing Batman number 424, C. Ed. Thanks, Stan. I do these in D.C. too. Was there, was, did you have to like call a guy or lady in a research library to make sure nobody had done it before? No, because I knew no one had done it before. So it was, it was pretty, it was.

it was an open field. It's Tim Drake, so he's the third Robin. And the seventh doctor. See, you could have, I could have bought the Doctor Who. I know, I'm so sorry. Yeah, it was what I actually did. I knew nothing, no one had done it before, specifically because I went in to my editor

by way of an email and said, hello, excuse me, here is my PowerPoint on why this works and why this makes sense, historically, emotionally, spiritually, just across the board of what it is about this character and contextually. And I found out that I was not the first that had made the suggestion.

So I was like, guys, there's something. There's something in the one. I would say probably the first, suggestion was made by every comic book that ever featured Robin. I mean, the idea in and of itself is not new. For this particular Robin, I think... To make it specific. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

For this particular character, and it made a lot of sense, I think, canonically and over the course of... There were a couple of times where I asked my editor, what is the heterosexual explanation for this move that this character made? because I certainly, I've never... Dude lo's tits. I don't know. I don't know what the...

Yeah. That's why I kicked the penguin. He loves tits. Have we confirmed... This is a comic book editor of voice. Because they're all still in New York. Yeah. Shop in that big C-car.

I got a racing form to read. If we confirmed the other robins, which are you said Tim Drake is the third Robin. Yes. First Robin, Bert Ward. Oh, yeah. This are all fun options. Yep, yep, yep. We confirm that the other robins are heterosexual.

Some of them are still alive in the world of Batman, right? Well, alive again, some of them. But yes, listen, let everyone make their own choices for themselves. No one has made any sort of advances upon anything in that realm, despite fan theories. But, yeah, no, this is, Tim would have been the first. Okay, what's the actual first Robin called? Dick Grayson. Pan-Poly.

Sapio-sexual. It would, listen, the amount of people that are in love with Nightwing's butt just sort of across the fandom is pretty amazing. There's a web comic now that's just like Nightwing butts. Like, it's pretty great. Let me ask you guys this, because the two of you have, between you, between you, written for all of the major comic universes, those being DC Detective Comics,

Marvell, Archie, and Godzilla. The big four, can they call them? When you talk about comics, historically, yes. What are the top comic pots? I mean, I think it's, I mean, it is so hands down Nightwing.

It is so not even a, like, whoever's second is way back there, right? It's way, way back there. Yeah, no. I mean, maybe Scott Summers, if you squint. What's Scott Summers? Cyclops. Cyclops, yeah.

Oh, okay. Yeah, Cyclops has a dump truck. I think it could be canonically stated that Cyclops probably has a dump truck. Yeah, I'd be on board. How else is he pulling both Gene Gray and Emma Frost? He's got to have something back there. He's got to have something back there. It's certainly not his personality.

Sure. These are comics. A bland man, often compared to Dan McCoy in some cases. On the show. That's happened on the show. I'm not being mean. We find Dan to be vibrant. I do.

Sure. I mean, we may have discussed this already on the program. Are you looking at photos of the butt? I'm getting to the butt. Comics. I will say we are kind of calling back to a conversation we have with Cody Ziegler about a Reddit post asking. Cody's the best. Cody rules.

A Reddit post asking who was canonically. Th, H-I-C. And we decided it was the watcher. The watcher, yes. An omnipotent butt. That's what you want, really. Yeah, several of the Eternals. Okay, I'm looking at this butt.

Yeah. It is juicy. That is the best way to describe it. And this one is like a, now see, describe the butt. How many butts are you looking at? It's a pair of what I would call globules. is how I would describe it. It's very globular.

Juicy ords. It's bi-globular. And what's interesting to me about it is I have called up an article that's called Nightwing's But, colon, a thick history of Dick Grayson's butt. So you pay for the Atlantic? You can get behind the paywall? Get a certain amount of free articles. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

And I'm taking a look at this. And, like, my Batman knowledge really probably, other than Batman movies, probably ends in, like, 1992 or three, right? Like, I remember Batman, colon, the killing joke. That happened when I was a comic bookstore habituay. Shout out to Al's Comics on 16th Street in San Francisco. But even then, Al from Al's Comics, called me Mark Grace. because I was there to buy baseball cards. So there are some of these night wings

that look like more contemporary night wings. This night wing looks almost like a K-pop singer. If a K-pop singer had, what I would say is like a 12, a six-pack, but on his side? Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah. 100%. Like the side of his torso has a six-pack?

Yes. Real, how a real person looks. Absolutely. That's how people look. Correct. And continue. Sure. I've seen people.

I know what a person looks like. This is a person. This one, the second one, which looks also much more contemporary than my memories of this character, which are pretty vague. This one is in, there's no way to describe this other than fetish garb, correct? Yeah, that's his... I would argue that that's most of the Batman family of heroes garbs. I don't know that you can call out Nightwing specifically for having the kinkiest of garbs. But, like, this garb is not just, like, obviously, it's aesthetic is, is kinky, as, you know, almost all, almost all superheroes are, certainly.

You know, I mean, what is Wonder Woman, if not a BDSM fantasy by a weird guy in 1950 or whatever? but this one has a sheen to it that it looks like oiled latex. Previously oiled, yes. No, 100%. And Jesse is pressing this into our faces. This, what is this? My favorite current sort of thing that's going around the internet about Nightwing, there's always like, who's going to play Nightwing if James Gunn decides to put him in whatever, one of the movies.

Beyonce. And every single person is like, this person, whoever, Whoever plays Nightwing has to be considered fuckable by everyone. Men, women, all of your non-binary pals, everybody wants to fuck Nightwing, which I feel like is canonical even in the comics. Like, he's just, he is, he's that girl. Do you know what I mean? Just like, the manic pixie dream girl of the DC universe is Dick Grayson. Yeah.

So you're saying Maggie Gyllenha? I was going to say, it's the same Steve Age, he's already in there. But there's also, so like those are all sort of more contemporary nightwing aesthetics. I think he grew into his butt. I don't think that this was a... But this one, I mean, this is a 1988 butt, if ever I've seen one. Yeah. And I mean, look at that butt.

Yeah. And it is juicy. This is juicy. It is juicy. Man. They knew. Would you mind if I pivoted from From Nightwin butts?

All right Listen, while we're yacking You can look at whoever the fuck you want on your phone Jesse, I do need you to maybe send me that article Just for research purposes For the folks listening at home Jesse is making hubba hubba eyebrows I believe

That's my camera Look at those moving eyebrows Up and down Yeah I didn't know you had such good eyebrow control That's great action You know it's funny I get Botox for my migraine

and it really inhibits my eyebrow control. Really? It's like the one thing that it really, because none of the migraine Botox goes to any places that give you those, like, things that you're like, oh, that lady's got too much Botox. Sure. But one of them paralyzes the thing that is right in the,

like, right between my eyebrows or right above between my eyebrows, and I can no longer do one eyebrow at a time. You're doing a great job. Well, we're getting, it depends where in the Botox cycle. In the Botox cycle. Yeah, I see. Okay. Megan, not to recap a conversation we had on another podcast, but I just think our listeners would want to hear about this. You live on a boat a lot of the time. And I think it's interesting.

And I wanted, I just wanted to hear about what your favorite parts of living on a boat are. Oh, man. Fresh fish. Fresh year. I don't know. It's the Thames. So I don't know if I'd trust. anything that's been in those waters. Wait, so are you, you're living in one of those

long, skinny boats of England? So, I, no, but I live where a lot of those boats are. I live in a marina, which is different than where, like, the canal boats often are. Um, but we live on a, uh, it's technically a yacht, which makes it sound way fancier than it actually is. It's actually just a, a boat that is, was once seaworthy. Uh, look, you bought it, you bought it in the sporting goods section of Walmart. Yeah. You have to keep one of those foot pumps to keep it floating. What technically makes something a yacht?

Is it size or is it like a mast type? Or like is it a level of depravity? Right. A super yacht. No, from my understanding, my very, very limited understanding, because the thing is when you live on a marina, you don't have to know a lot about boats, which I would argue you should. But they let us, they let pretty much any of. of us on on the marina and uh yeah apparently i think a yacht is just something that is technically able to go out into the ocean so yeah so it it was once seaworthy and um and then we got a hold

of it and now it is now it doesn't go anywhere you start drilling holes in the bottom pretty much so did you what led you to this lifestyle my spouse okay i i i was not your spouse is a seabird It's uncomfortable, too far from the shoreline. You know, London is expensive to live in. That's true. We're all creatives. I think it's one of the things that I love so much about living on a boat in London is the community. And the marina that we live on especially is just delightful.

It is full of the best folks, the weirdest folks, the strangest folks. And a fair number of eels. Yeah, weirdly, yeah, a surprising amount of eels in that river? They're eels in the Thames. Really? Yeah. Yeah, that's why British people eat jellied eels. Jellied eels, yeah.

Because they're just all over the place. It used to be loads of oysters as well, but we ate those. Really? Yeah, because those were poor people food, so you could just pick those up. We is in humankind. Well, we is in London. Okay, yeah, sure, sure. Megan works part-time, part-time as a comic book writer.

Part-time is what they call a glinner. Mudlarker, how dare you? You got to have a lot of hustles these days. You can't specialize anymore. Multi-talent. But I love the community of it, and I love so much the people that exist. And part of it is because London is such an expensive city to live in, weirdly, more expensive than Los Angeles. Although that more and more every day is getting surprising.

Sure. Is there anywhere we could boat here? Marina Del Rey. I've already looked in. Okay. But then you'd have to live in Marina Del Rey. So, you know, trades off. I'll probably rename it the Crypto.com Marina.

Oh, yeah. Anyway, that's fun. But yeah, it's a really, it's fun. That is, I think the community is the best part of the boat. Also, summers on the boat are the best because London, it doesn't get dark until like 10 p.m. during the summertime. So you can just, like, we hang out on the deck and we, I read. That sounds nice. I do a lot of my work, my writing work on the deck as well.

How's your showering? What a good question. Thanks. He's a professional interview. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he knows what I'm astutely trying to avoid, which is anything to do with, yeah. So we don't have, you can have showers and toilets on boats. You do need to have a blackwater service come and take out your black water.

That's Dick Cheney. That's not what that is. Yeah, yeah. But we, our boat lives on the toilet jetty, basically. So we're not very far from where the showers are. Okay. communal, public, but also cleaned every day and not by us. Toilette, by the way, wonderful Steely Day in Alphos.

It's my favorite. Yeah. They get cleaned every day, so that's kind of nice. We don't have to do it, so. That is nice. I'm not mad about it. Okay, so how's the water pressure? Great. And here's the thing.

Funny, you should mention water pressure. Brits love controlling the water pressure and get real weirded out by the fact that they can't control water pressure in the States. Yeah. And so, like, I want it on high pressure all the time. And it's strange to me that you would want a low pressure. But Brits like to control pressure, apparently. I don't understand it.

I want to first say that I love and respect the environment and all of Mother Nature's creation. Thank you. Uh-huh. Thank you. In a lot of ways, Mother Nature was the first single mother. Right. Yes. And, yes, who do we respond?

respect and love more than our single mothers. We love them. However, as I mentioned, I am a sufferer of chronic migraine headaches. Yes, yeah. And one of the only non-medicine interventions that does anything for me is sitting in the shower. Sure. I take a hot shower and I will just sit in the bottom of the tub. Yep.

Now I have a stall shower, but I will sit on the shower. but I will sit on the floor of the stall shower in the fetal position getting my hands, my feet, and the top of my head warm in the water. I love that. And we, I live in a very old house. I live in a 19th century house.

It had old water pipes and my bedroom is on the second floor and when we moved into the house, I was so mad about simply not having good enough water in my shower. Sure. And so what I did is I used Reddit to find out how to illegally purchase a high flow showerhead, bought one on eBay, then removed the regulator out of that. Oh.

So it was a kind that was already illegal. So there's like a shower dark web that you were on? I love this. I love this. I also bought a bunch of poppy seeds. Wow. And my shower, it is a true marvel, just takes a layer of skin off my body. Perfect.

And it is the reason why the Los Angeles River is so narrow. Your shower? Your reason. I see. I'm the guy. In the presence of greatness. Well, that river was getting a little wide. I think we get all overre.

What do you think it is? The watcher? Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, now Daddy Thin. Daddy Thin, yes. Previously, Daddy Thick. No.

Currently? So, yeah, I made a big shower investment in time, effort. Sounds useful, though. Sounds perfect. I mean, I'm slightly jealous. I will say, though, I am surprised by the amount of pressure that we do get on the Marina. Grateful and blessed, but surprised nonetheless that it's not as weak as I would have absolutely expected. Okay.

I got another question. All right. You ever hit your head? All the time. That's all you do on boats is hit your head. Sometimes you hit the head. Sure. But generally you hit your head.

Yeah, you hit the head over there on the toilet jet. That's how you know that you are on boats is like by the time you just start to get used to it. Like, ah, yes, I am one with the boat now. Oh, I have an important question about the head. If it's a toilet for boat folk, but it's on land, is it a toilet or a head? Well, it's not on land, so there you go. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's a toilet jetty, so it's a floating block of toilets.

Got it. Yeah. Got it. Technically a yacht, though, right? The toilets are technically a yacht. Can go into the ocean, yes. I get it. I once took a shit on spiral jetty, the legendary earthwork artwork.

Yes. So I get it. And you did. See, I'm good at this. Yeah, it's a joke that makes sense to people. Yeah, sure. They follow it. Listen, should we give people a minute to, you know, realize that they got the joke,

pat themselves on the back for it, and then come back for some more? It'll give some time for the earthwork to change. That's one of the... Yes, that's the nature of earthworks. Always changing. Is there in dialogue with nature? Beautiful. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jesse go.

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Yeah. He's great. Yeah, he's the best. A hilarious dude. And yeah, we have a lot of fun over there on that show. And we're cranking out fun bonus content for members. He always had it to the show. I'm just joking about Matt Lee.

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That's why you got that spot over your eye. But in reality, sometimes when I have THC items, it can be too much. Right. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I just wanted to relax and I've had too much. And it's a bad feeling. Your treetops high now. But with soul, it has stuff for people. who just want to chill if you want to get hyperplaced they have that too you can get you can get

15 milligrams but you can get one and a half absolutely one and a half it's such a nice way to chill one and a half you can handle your daily activities no sweat if you're if you're somebody who just wants to hang out soul's great and uh if you're somebody who's just like curious if you haven't used CBD or THC before I want to just give it a shot soul's a great way to give it a shot and you You know what? That way you don't have to, like, deal with drinking bullshit. Yeah, you don't have to deal. Listen, it's no alcohol. There's no hangover. Just a cool, a cool, chill feeling. They have delicious hemp-derived, THC, and CBD products designed to boost your mood and help you unwind. They got this out of hemp?

Oh, yeah. Hemp can do anything, Jesse. I thought you could only make ropes out of it. Oh, no, no. It's ropes and delicious gummies. Well, bring on the good vibes and treat yourself to soul to... Today. Right now, Sol's offering our audience 30% off your entire order. Go to getsole.com and use the code JJGo. Getsole.com promo code J.J. Go for 30% off. Jordan, can I mention I have two, I have completed one Bullseye live show. I was there. It was awesome. I had a great time. The show was terrific. If folks have the chance to see a bullseye live, I say jump on it. Our friend, the Man of a Thousand Voices, Al Madrigal was there. We had all kinds of great people. There's even going to be video of that episode. Amazing. I want to say we also have shows coming up in Santa Cruz in New York City.

In Santa Cruz, our friend Scott Simpson is going to be doing comedy. Awesome. Adam Scott is going to be one of the guests. Glenn Washington, past Jordan Jesse Go guest, is going to be one of the guests. And Boots Riley from the coup and the brilliant filmmaker behind Sorry to Bother You and the upcoming I Love Boosters. his total fucking genius, and the rock band The Murman. Amazing.

Perhaps the greatest rock band in the history of Santa Cruz. Yeah, I said it, Camper Van Beethoven. Wow, shots fired. Sorry, Camper Van Beethoven. I'm picked The Murman. We're also doing a New York show. We just booked Tony Shaloo. There you go.

Chad Abumrod, podcasting legend, Tony Shalub and John Benjamin, all going to be on that New York City show. You can find the information at maximum fund.org slash events. Tickets are going fast. So get those tickets now. Don't be, Jordan, a fucking chump.

There you go. And hey, on November 8th, you have two chances to see me and one chance to see us. If you're in the Southern California area. Yeah. November 8th, I'm going to be at the Burbank book festival from 10 to 11th.

That's at the Buena Vista Branch Library. Don't go to the main branch. Yeah. So go to that Buena Vista branch? Go to the Buena Vista branch of the Burbank Public Library. That's where they have the adult vid Disney movies. No, no, it's just a wonderful book festival. And then later that day, you and I are both going to be at Revenge of Comics and Pinball for their comic creators' block party.

We will be doing something. Looking forward to doing something. It'll be something. This is really cool. So many great comics creators. And I should mention this if I want our audience to get their asses out. Nathan Filiot will be there. Oh, well, there you go.

If we aren't getting you out to this thing, come see Philly. Remember when Nathan Phileon wore that wig in that movie? Oh, yeah! I love the wig! It was an amazing wig. Great wig. I'm not normally a wig joke guy. The wig was good.

That was a 10 out of 10 wig. You're talking about tar, right? The movie Tar. It's a movie, Tar. Oh, Superman. Yeah, I was talking about Superman. That was Nathan Filian, though, played Tar and Tar, right? It was.

Yeah, he's amazing. It's the problematic conductor, Lydia Tar. Lydia Tar from the Jordan, from the movie Tar, Jordan Cowling. Tar from the movie Tar. Tar from Tar. Troubled conductor of classical music. Yes. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Go. La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La Mara.

Jordan Morris Boy Detective. Megan Vince Martin, the Sleepiest Cub. Oh. Shh, don't wake the cow. Don't wake me up. Don't wake the car. Oh, even sleepier than Cubs Hall of Fame are Ernie Banks? Well, no, not him.

He's the sleeping guy. The ultimate sleep, some say. He's sleeping. Don't wake him in his coffin. Megan, obviously, you're a writer. You know a lot about, like, creativity. Jordan and I are also really creative and hardworking. So on this.

show a lot of people think we just show up and go blah blah blah blah blah blah and maybe we like wrote one thing down in a phone note to remember to bring it up uh but actually what happens is we think of all different kinds of segments for the show we don't then people call in for those segments at two zero six nine eight four four fun or they send in voice memos at jj go at maximum fun dot org it's not just people calling in and saying whatever they want to us and then saying it's for your segment blah blah blah something that fits the thing that's the thing no we did the work it's our hard work like here's an example thank you megan hi jordan jesse and uh due to where i'm calling from josie long this is uton calling uh from london for your long running segment funny british shop names

uh it was on the underground and i saw a bag sitting right across for me and uh it said pound land so apparently uh the town has expanded to an entire land i'll send a photo to first of all show me this photo because I'm not buying it not real store fake yeah I've

I've checked out I've checked out pound land I'm a frequent visitor poundland you ever go to the Cock Foster's pound land

it's right next to the cock and bowl pub yeah yeah yeah sure in the cock district absolutely what does one get at pound land jelly deal okay jelly deal

Yeah. I don't know if I'd trust those jelly deals, but I would, you know, every once in a while, you'd get a, I don't know, a hot toddy. No, that's not it. You'd get a pie. You'd get some sort of pie. You can get tons of pies everywhere in London. Okay. At Poundland, specifically? Sure. Poundland, it's like a discount retailer, like a dollar store. It's like a dollar store. Well, if you have like a poundland with a freezer section, which sometimes some of them do. There could be some pies there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you can get jelly deal in a can. That's true. I know because Sarah Morgan. and brought it to us once. What a horrific nightmare it was. Yeah, disgusting.

A lot of, like, stationary stuff, a lot of, like, it's the stuff that, like, fell off a truck. Okay. You know? It ends up at Poundland. Kind of. Okay. The secret of all English food. Jelly deal, disgusting.

Gentleman's relish? Not bad. Okay. Yeah. Do you still, as a, as a, you know, person who lives part time here, part time there. Yes. Are you still delighted by the crazy names of stuff there? I, to this day, still, I'm like,

what how and then and then the problem is it would be fine if you could get used to them ever but then the Brits like to like throw new crazy words at you and then be like we've always called it this I'm like I'm pretty sure you have it I'm pretty sure that wasn't that name like last week and so that is I think the worst of it all is that they take such great gleeful joy but they're Brits so you don't show it ever right so you just sort of have to figure out like Is this real? Are you, or is this, are you fucking with me? Is this real life or is it just fantasy?

Yes, yes. Is there now stuff that like when you come and spend your time here? Yeah. Is there stuff where you're like, oh God, I wish I had that British thing. Oh, man, the booze is better there. Is it? Oh, man. Yeah, the wine is better because it's cheaper and it's, you know, it's right there.

You can get it from France. The France wine. A France wine. You're not drinking English wines. from those English vineyards We all visit all the time This is interesting information But horrible for the planet

A lot of French wineries are buying Up British countryside in the south Because global warming is happening Oh boy So yeah, okay Maybe the British wine you're gonna So that's a positive from global warming We like to talk about the negatives

I don't know if we want to give the Brits access to that But sure We know from our friends at the Beef and Dairy Network podcast about the high quality of fizzy beef wines That's true Yes Is there anything like food wise

Where you're like oh give me back to England So I can have my Bavril Blank Parsonips Parsnips I love a parsnip I've really gotten on with a parsnip I really gotten on with

You know that they have Parsonips here right What but not like I don't go to the grocery store here Jesse I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't want. I don't want to know. How do you prepare a parsnip?

It's like a roast. Yeah, you're roasting. Put it in the oven. Yeah, cut it in cubes and roast it in fat. Cubs. Cubs. I mean, the British do a lot of really good work with the fat of their almost unseasoned meats. Like they will take a big hunk of meat, not season it particularly, and roast the shit out of it.

But they do great stuff with what. drips out of that roast. Yeah, 100%. Grease food, great food. They're chips. The chips are better. Greek foods are the good there, too, by the way. The Greek food and the Greek food. But the trick to all British food is to know that most of it comes from rationing. And so that's why it is the way that it is, is because they rationed for far longer than we did after World War II. Right. So in the United States, in the 1950s, people were eating like a lot of jello, a lot of casseroles made of canned cream of mushroom soup, those kinds of things. In England, they were eating what's called rationing books. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they were basically stamps and just paper, yeah. They would get some sustenance from the glues. Interesting. Yeah, the adhesives had some caloric value. Beautiful. The rest was just roughage. Yeah, interesting. But they put it in goose drippings, and it was very good in goose drippings.

Yeah. The British pub culture is really great, isn't it? I wish, I wish, I don't know. I wish we did more pub in here. I agree. As long as it's not a weather spoons, which I have beef with, but beyond that, weather spoons are the big corporation that's taken over all the pubs. Oh.

So it's a real sort of, it's a real sort of journey to find an indie mom and pop pub, which is really what you want, what you want to get into. So there's a big pub out there. There's big pub. Big pub. That's right. Even in elephant and castle? Even in the very same.

Even an animal and inanimate object? My favorite. That being said, there is one animal and inanimate object pub that is indie that is near us that I love. Okay. It's very, very good. They just had a stout and oyster event that I'm so, so salty that I missed. I have to say as a non-drinker, English pub culture is something I envy because I wish that when I was hanging out with my friends who drink in an American bar, I could send the barmaid to bring me a pound of beef. Yes.

Yes. Absolutely. I love a pound of beef culture here. Yeah. Well, also, I think that most pubs in the UK, and truly most of Europe, have better non-alcoholic beer. So that's the other thing that's really nice is just being able to, like, have some sober options when you go to a pub. Whereas here, it's like, do you want this sugar drink? Do you want this sugar drink?

Or how about this drink that has no flavor? You know, I usually go with a tall boy of fanta. That's not a problem for me. You know, who can say no to that? Not a problem for it. Throw it in a bag so you can take it on the bus. Okay, let's take one more call. Hey, Jordan, Jesse, Stephen, Chris Fairbanks,

Eliza Skinner, Nick Repeat Adams, Steve Agey. This is Jason from L.A. With another edition of your long-running segment, bumper stickers I saw. I pulled up behind a Honda accent, and they had three bumper stickers side by side. The first one was keep honking. I'm listening to Max Fund's long-running nonsense podcast,

Jordan Jesse Go. The second one was, sorry, I'm late. I was at home edging, and I just didn't want to come. And the third one was, don't blame me. I voted for Mayor McChesee. Any one of these would have been indicative of a member of the Jordan Jessego audience, but the fact that all three of them were side by side just kind of made sense. All right, punch a blimp.

Bye. No, Jordan Jessica listeners would vote for the hamburger. Sure. Let's make that clear. Mayor McChese is a fat host. It's a Hyundai accent, which is why I know the rest. of this call is a lot. Well, there's two reasons I know this call is a lot. First of all, Honda doesn't make the accent. Hyundai makes the accent. Second of all, no one has that

bumper sticker on their car. The Jordan Dessiggo one. Come on. Get real. No one's listening to this show. Yeah, let alone putting a sticker on their car. I do periodically have people in my life who will text me every time they see that bumper sticker. And it's nice. I always like getting the text. It's nice to glad that they're driving around out there. When I, when I'm driving around Jacking off and not coming. And I see someone with the bumper sticker that says New Bridges for Lovers. I'll text Tom Sharpling about it. Oh, that's a best show thing.

There you. Love to see it. Love to see it out there in the world. People make in the world a better place. Yeah. Except for Mayor fucking McCheese. Oh, I know. Talk about supporting American imperialism.

Thank you. You know what I mean? Jesus Christ. Impeach McChease. Impeach McChease. That could be a bumper sticker. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

Might as well just vote for Eric. Adams. Dropped out of the race. Or the grimace. Yeah. Or grimace. Yeah. I think the grimace is two left.

Is that really? Yeah, I think so. Wait, see, is Grimus sort of like dirtbag left? I mean, he speaks to the, yeah, he is. Yes. Grimmis go on Comptown. I definitely know what all this is. Right.

Yeah. Sure. I mean, you know, whatever. Girmis go on Comptown. We're just saying stuff, right? Yeah. I think we're just saying things. These are post-comicon words.

Yes. Absolutely. Our brains have melted. Did you know that the Burger King Kids Club are all libertarians? Like Cato Institute? Like, wow. They just like to smoke weed, I think. They're just Republicans who want to smoke weed, sorry.

On the one hand, I'm like, I want to smoke, I want to blaze trees with you guys. Oh, with Kid Vitt? I mean, Stephen, throw up a picture of the Burger King Caves Club, would you? Would you? Am I right? IQ blazes trees. Dream blood rotation. Is there a more?

Classic. A classic dream blunt rotation. On the other hand, IQ, the one in the wheelchair. He told me he opposes the Americans with Disabilities Act. Wow. Yeah, because he's a libertarian. Stephen's holding up a picture. Dream blunt rotation, am I right?

Oh, fantastic. All those children. Yeah. Anyway, they're not real. But libertarianism is. It is. Yeah, all right, let's get into it. Turn the chair around.

Let's get serious. Yeah. Should we give Jesse a minute to, talk about libertarianism off mic and then we can come back for some more. We'll be back at just a second on Jordan, Jessica. La, la, la, la, la, la, la. Moving is the worst. Yeah, but it's exciting, too.

Our new MaxFunn HQ office in downtown L.A. is actually going to fit all of us in it. And the new studio is going to be so nice. Plus, we'll have space for hangouts and events. Yeah, you're right. It's going to be worth it. but, boy, is it expensive. Maybe we can get some help.

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Jordan Morris Boy Detective and Megan Fitzmartin with another one Okay, I have done some research Okay You know Jordan How the other day You were saying that you wanted us

To be more of a morning drive radio show From 1989 I was saying that Yeah, I do yeah Great It's like a good pivot for us right Great news A natural pivot

Yes a net Yeah exactly seamless I would I googled British towns with funny names Okay Okay Oh Yes good

Apparently in Worcestershire Which already is pretty It's difficult, yes. Yeah, it's more of a, it's more of a sauce than a place, Jordan. Thanks. There is a town called Belland, which is the head of a penis, Jordan. Right. Endorse it, there is a town called Shitterton.

Yes, yes, very good. And there is a town just called Cox. Yeah. Okay. C-O-C-K-S. There is, I'm sure that's pulled up for you, there's a road trip that you can take that's quite popular. Like from Cox to Shitterton To Hitting all of

To Tate's Bird Yeah exactly There's one called What I like about this That was the section for Names with a Humorous or Rude connotation I'm talking to an AI here

Sure For my friends at the Google Corporation One of my favorite AIs And they gave me some names With a rude or humorous connotation Then they gave me Names that are long

Or oddly spelled the first of which is just a Welsh town with the long name. Why don't all these towns have six fingers? The second one is Barton in the Beans. I love that one. Making these real? These are all real? Don't know about Barton and the Beans.

The other ones have been. Shoulderton, absolutely. And then the ones that are names that sound funny in context, you have Giggles Wick that says, a village in North Yorkshire that sounds cheerful. You know what? You're right. Thanks, man.

You're right, A.I. Unless it's Dr. Gickleswick. Oh, no. Who's that? He's a murder from a VHS tape in Blockbuster in 1990. Okay. I think you're right. Great snoring.

That's what people are doing right now. I just read shit I googled. Right now, all I'm reading stuff I googled. And then Netherwallop. That's fun. Netherwallop is fun. That's legitimately fun. Legitimately fun

I want to commend Megan for many things One earlier we learned she was going with our You know riffing about the BK Kids Club Had never seen the BK Kids Club until today Never not once absolutely not Didn't have never laid eyes upon those cherubic Burger Kids Did know that children could eat Burger King

Thought that was for sinners Absolutely Well it is They know what they've done She, as a child, went to a church that worshipped Jack from Jack in the Box. How dare you? I didn't even know Jack in the Box existed on the East Coast. Wow.

We were solidly a Rally's family. Rallies. That's right. That's right. What do you get at a Rallies? All of the fries. Every single fry that could possibly exist. That's what you get from Rallies.

A lot of different fries. A lot of fries. Those fries. Before we go, should we talk about Megan's new comic book? Yeah. Is this a Mary Sue? This is the one. I've read the first issue.

I read it early. It's fantastic. I'm going to be frank here. I'm going to be frank. Bring it to me. Because I hate to lie to you guys. Yeah. That would be fucked up if you did.

I've met you once, but yes, go on. I know that Mary Sue is something that is either feminist or anti-feminist. I'm not sure what. It's hard to tell. Honestly, that's a fair understanding of the concept of Mary Sue. Sue is going. I don't know what this is. Mostly because, man, I love Mary Sue's. I love fandom history, first and foremost.

I think Phantom history is so fascinating. Because it has existed for quite some time. And Mary Sue, one of the things that I found really interesting about Mary Sue. Is this, is a Mary Sue when Spock and his friend, the Vulcan. Well, Spock is the Vulcan in most cases. You're doing great. Captain Kirk and Spock. Yes, suck each other off.

Nope, that is slash-thick, which you're in the, but you're in the right zone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're in the right, you're in the right fandom for sure. Okay. It's a, it was created by a Star Trek zine in 1972 because the, the women that ran the zine were getting really tired of a lot of women writing in fanfic about this young, new bile, new captain of, or lieutenant. often of Starfleet who had just recently graduated from the academy and she was beautiful and perfect and also secretly a Vulcan and was just like perfect in every way and also Kirk was in love with her and it was very clearly like women engaging with how they viewed femininity and

like how they thought that they should be feminine. But what is interesting and the reason why I say it's 1972 and why that's important is because also what happens in 1972 is Roe v. Wade. That was when the Roe v. Wade decision was made by the Supreme Court. And so you you sort of see these two very specific conversations happening in feminism and within like feminine history of like second way feminism happening

and being like we refuse everything that we learned about from fucking leave it to beaver like all of your shit that you're sending in we don't want any of that with our like with our new like feminist ideologies and to a point fair like that is that that is correct and that is definitely

a a reason for shifting the narrative and going well I don't want to do this anymore. The problem is the narrative never changed as the rest of it has. Like, we have continued to grow in our understanding of feminism, and we've recognized that intersectionality is important and should exist, and we should care about everyone. And Spock voted for the equal rights of memory.

That's right. There you go. And so it's just, it's really, it's a really interesting thing. And so Mary Sue kind of was a sort of feminist idea that you, like, shouldn't have a Mary Sue. and now it has become sort of anti-feminist in the sense that it's like, okay, but like let people live, like let people enjoy things,

understand the differences within femininity and engage with these things that matter. And Mary Sue is a delightful romp that has all these big ideas about a fan fiction writer whose creation magically comes to life. That's right.

Oh, like Jody from today's special. Yes, exactly like that, yes. Got it. Now we're in my tour. A third way of the best icon. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It's very Barbie-coded and Josie and the Pussycats vibes. Coming soon to your local comic book store, people can pre-order it, right? Pre-order it sure. Go to your comic book store. It comes out October 8th. So very soon.

Great. Great. Thanks. Great. I'm going to do it. It's very fun. Others will too. Very poppy. Very, very joyful. Yeah. Lisa Stirl drew it too. Lisa Sterrell is amazing. One of my favorite drawers of comics.

Really great. Absolutely amazing. She had squad, which is so good. Yeah, squad's an all-timer. And she totally gets it, which is really the joy of it. So there's a teenage girl who writes fan fiction for her favorite TV show in this. And I had a lot of fun coming up with the fake TV show, which is about a Roman vampire named Marcus, time-traveling teen Sherlock Holmes, and regular girl, Alice. That sounds like a good show.

Sure. And whenever we were talking about designs for it, she was like, so Marcus, Marcus, the vampire, Marcus for the Roman vampire. I think it looks like Spike from Buffy, huh? And I was like, yeah, yeah, he does. You're right. You're right, he does. Absolutely. It just, it was like Spike from Buffy.

Yeah, so it's just, it was great to work with her and like who she gets, she gets it and has lived it. Our colorist, dear Flakelly is just gorgeous, amazing. Jody Troutman is our letterer. And I have essentially given her a billion jobs to do on this. book and she delivers and yeah great when you say a billion jobs you mean there's a lot of letters it's not even that it's you're using letters to make literally every word of the book every single word um the the boxes are unique and i and i have asked for a lot of unique boxes that she has to sort of create every time no spoilers i know but these boxes all these boxes well listen i've got a

little bit of experience. Let me say, all boxes are unique. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. I actually don't. I've been with my wife since we were seven. No, it's really great. You're a beautiful couple. You're a wonderful couple. It's really great. Wait, can I tell you a different thing I thought of earlier? Sure. Yeah. Do you want me to like set it up or? No, I'm just going to say it. It's not really going to make sense anyway. Yeah. Even in context, it wouldn't make that much sense. I say it. We can say whatever on this. Who's your favorite Star Trek captain?

Mine is Bella Abzug. I don't, you know what? Yes, and, Jesse. Yes, and you said it. I don't know, I said it. I love it. I loved it. Well, now that you've said everything.

It's time to end the podcast forever. At all podcasts, too. Well, it has been a joy to have you on the program. Much for having me. I appreciate it. I look forward to reading Mary Sue and learning about this, Mary Sue, that comes to life. That's right. That comes Jordan to life.

Like so many Jodys from today's special. Yes. I believe that... Now I understand what's going on. I believe that on a recent episode of Jordan Jesse Go, I asserted that Jody is the character, is the mannequin on the Canadian children's television program today's special that comes to life when night falls in the department store. I think also that someone corrected me and Jody is actually just a regular human. But there's really no way to know.

There's not. There's really no way to know. We're all right. We're all wrong. What am I going to do by a fucking plane ticket to Halifax? No. Jordan? Come on.

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