Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Ooze On In, with Allan McLeod

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

On this week's episode, we welcome back Allan McLeod to chat about his new podcast, Walkin’ About (now on Maximum Fun!), Old Town Pasadena, top breakfast movies, and more!Watch Allan in Interior Chinatown (on Hulu)!Check out all things Allan McLeod.Become a MaxFun member today or upgrade your membership!Live Jordan, Jesse, Go! in Chicago at Sleeping Village on April 11th!Jordan’s new Spider-Man’s comic is out now!Pre-order Jordan’s new Godzilla comic! Send us your niche Subreddits for MaxFunDrive jjgo [at] maximumfun.orgJordan will be at C2E2 and WonderCon this year. Be sure to get our new ‘Ack Tuah’ shirt in the Max Fun store.Or, grab an ‘Ack Tuah’ mug!The Maximum Fun Bookshop!Follow the podcast on Instagram and send us your dank memes!Check out Jesse’s thrifted clothing store, Put This On.Follow brand new producer, Steven Ray Morris, on Instagram.Listen to See Jurassic Right!

Give a little time for the child within you don't be afraid to be young and free undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and socks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Goh I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. Jordan I have some great news from my house. Oh I love news I love your house so I think... Why are you at my house so much? I just love it! The foundation! The doors! Could you just come when you're invited? No!

No? I love it too much! I mean, I feel weird kicking you out. Well, sorry. It's something that's gonna have to continue, cause I love that house! I know you do. Could you by the way stop humping my house? No! I won't! It's too much. Come on! I know you do. Could you, by the way, stop humping my house? No, I won't! It's too much.

Come on. My kids are around. Well, I gotta come. I don't want them to grow up into house humpers. Sorry. Oh, so you think just because they observe me humping the house, they're going to turn into house humpers? Is that not how house humping works?

No! It's just how you're born? It's just part of who you are. Okay I see those windows the doors the yard Excuse me, I have to leave The furnace, you know, not a furnace not a furnace guy listen, there's leg guys There's boob guys.

Sure. The news at my house, Jordan. My 13-year-old daughter, Grace, has completed her full viewing of Logistics Art Project. Thank you, Stephen. Thank you. Please don't applaud Alan, our guest. There you go. I, for listeners who missed a previous episode where I discussed it, Logistics Art Project is an installation film that tracks a widget of some kind from its factory to its final destination through the entire shipping process.

It is over a month long. When I say over a month long, 24 hours of one month, my daughter has been getting up in the morning early, then watching it all day until 11 o'clock at night, every day for about eight weeks and she just yesterday finished the last portion of it right on YouTube it was the most exciting because they were driving around a tiny town in China apparently okay it was an extraordinary experience yeah I'm really proud of her. She's completely emotionally drained Full emotional collapse did the whole family gather around to like watch the final seconds of logistics art project I think I think something like that happened

I think I was back in the shed working and nobody brought it to my attention But I believe something like that happened. I knew she was on the last episode these episodes by the way It's just that on YouTube videos can't be longer than eight hours. So it's broken up into like 125 eight hour chunks. And a lot of people have asked me, followed up and asked me like, is she actually watching it? Or is it just on?

Yeah. She's actually watching it or is it just on? She's actually watching it. Right. Like she's, thank God. At some point she was willing to accept doing some other things while she was watching it. Okay. But it's eating or something. Or like if someone has a question for her about something.

Yeah. Eating. She did get, at one point she went on Amazon and got a like a sleeve to put her iPad in like a transparent plastic sleeve with a strap so that she could bring her iPad into the shower and watch the logistics art project. Right. What do you like is this it's the idea like, this is the ultimate challenge of like viewing. Is that the spirit that she went into it with?

She wanted to have seen the longest movie. As she understands it, this is the longest movie ever made. She started in a couple of years ago on Berlin Alexander plots. I don't know if she finished, I don't, you know, Fassbender maybe is not her. But yeah, she started in on Berlin Alexander plots, but I think then she learned about logistics art project. And so she felt watching Berlin Alexander plots, which is only

12 hours long, was worthless. So she stopped watching Berlin Alexander plots. But at the time, there was nowhere to watch Logistics Art Project. They only put it on YouTube, whatever, 10 weeks ago. Soon as she heard it was on YouTube, that was the only priority in her life. And I was getting worried because she and I are going on our friend Jonathan Colton's cruise, the Joko cruise, and this is because of a different obsession of hers, which is with the Bermuda Triangle. And she needed to go to the Bermuda Triangle. So I was starting to get-

It's not to trace the path that the widget was on, right? No, no. It's not like a walking tour of New York where you get the Sex and the City cupcakes. No. It's about the Bermuda Triangle. I did just pack into my luggage a Bermuda Triangle board game from the 70s that she bought on eBay that she wants to play in the Bermuda Triangle. Wow. This is great. She's also bringing a Nintendo Wii so she can play a

Nintendo Wii Bermuda Triangle themed game. Okay. Yeah, there's a whole plan here. Sounds fantastic. But yeah, she's done with it and my wife, I just saw that my wife had received a text and it was shared with the adult members of the family. It was actually a series of four texts from my daughter. Mom, this is a perfectly reasonable request. It is part of unschooling to let me fulfill my creative passions. I need to walk across the US in clown shoes. It's my passion.

She just needs another thing to do. Can't you just set a jump rope record or something? Yeah, do the thing where you flip the water bottle. You know that? Get really good at playing guitar? Trick basketball shots. Oh, that would be tremendous. Yeah, that would be tremendous.

That would be a battle and then you can put that on YouTube and monetize it maybe. One time my middle child went to the park to play basketball, loves basketball, and just shot free throws the entire time by herself and came back and said to my wife, Mom, isn't it so satisfying to do the same thing over and over? I think my wife was like, well, dear, I'm neurotypical, so this is the kind of shit going down in my house. My children are very admirable. They're the real heroes. Right. Well, where are you going to get the clown shoes? I don't know, but I know what podcast she's going to go on when she's doing it.

Oh, yeah. Oof. This is a wonderful segue. Our guest on the program is the host of Maximum Fund's newest podcast, Walking with Alan, Alan MacLeod. Hey, how's it going y'all it's going great it's great to have the molasses boy here the legend it's great to be here it's great to slowly Well, Jordan's using a little bit of a... Well, we were talking about the house! You gotta look at that door jam. Yeah, no, we could do... we could really go to town on this house.

Oh, you a house humper too? Hell yeah, baby. Have you guys watched House Humper's International? The Canadian one's the best! It's more gentle. Hump one of those Indonesian houses on stilts? I'm fascinated by this art project, though. This really seems like a real endurance challenge.

I mean, the thing that was good about it is, you know, for a 13-year-old, for them to want to do something boring, I think, is a really great developmental goal, right? Like, I actually sincerely thought it was great that my daughter was doing something so dull because it could help her with her, you know, with ADHD and these kinds of things to just do something calm for so long. And there's no way to not be calm. I mean she went ape shit when she finished But like there's no way to not be calm while watching a video of a ship's prow at night with only just a little

blinking light on the end and so that was really good and I do think like it is a very interesting art project. Like, as an artwork, it is very interesting. Like, it's a real artwork. Was it a thing where before they put it on YouTube, like, it was just like showing at a museum in the Netherlands or something? Very much so.

I mean, I think almost literally, I think maybe it was Danish or something, but yes. I was picturing like Koyana Skotsi, you know? it was Danish or something. Okay. Yes. I was like like Koyana Scott see If only if only it had a film If only a god if Steve Reich got involved I'd be so grateful it would be so much less boring that's so exciting though cuz I write so I currently have a seven-year-old who is really into finger knitting.

Oh, what's finger knitting? It's knitting without any needles and you just kind of loop, you put your fingers out and you loop the yarn around each finger back and forth and back and forth until you have rows and rows and rows and then he's just, we've got all these scarves lying around now. Okay. Yarn scarves, he's really into it. And so it sounds like a similar sort of slow, kind of like just focusing on this boring task,

but it's been so exciting because he's producing these things that are nice little cozy things. Yeah, look out winter chill. And I think it helps with like maybe math and counting and also finger dexterity and maybe pensmanship and that sort of thing. I used to get when I was a kid, I used to get like the educational toys catalog in the mail. Did you guys ever get the education?

Yeah, sure. Catalog like stem toys? No, not. I mean, proto proto STEM toys. Yeah. I thought you said what's before the roots for a minute like, like for sounding where you put something up here, you're rethrowing an electric unit. You didn't get those catalogs as a kid. I didn't get them. I grew up in San Francisco. So yes, I did. Yeah, I got a lot of penis hole different kind of penis hole catalogs I In those catalogs. I remember even as a child Thinking there was like a section where it would say

What it was good for like why it was educational it would describe the product which would be Like do you remember the toy that had a little wheel and it was like a driving simulator? It was like a proto video game. It was not. Sure, yeah, maybe it had a little plastic car on a plastic stick. Yeah. And a like picture of a road that would slowly unfold

and you could kind of steer it around this road, right? Yeah, that's pretty much what it was. And it was like, it was a real thing, but not a video game. Sure. Like there was obstacles or something. I can't remember. Wanted one so bad, so fucking bad, six years old or whatever. Just wanted this so bad looking at this in this calendar. And just, I just remember being like, look mom, hand-eye coordination. It's good for hand-eye coordination.

I think that is the like, that was the ultimate excuse. Like when you wanted a video game was like hand-eye, I mean, I wonder if I have great hand-eye coordination. I've never taken a hand-eye coordination test, but I was constantly playing video games. I wonder what- I feel like I need to find an object to just toss to you randomly.

Yeah, right. So you can catch it. I mean, I think you would have to toss it. Do it, throw that water glass in my head, but don't tell me when you're gonna do it. You'd have to toss it to one of his fingers, I think. Right, yeah. It's not gross motor, this is fine motor.

Sure, sure, very small motion. What other things involve quick reactions only using your fingers? Great question. That's the, because that skill, Jordan, I think you've got in spades. I probably do. Old quick fingers Morris, they call me.

Yeah. 12 out of 10. It's a Morris. They call me. Yeah 12 out of I was about to say I think I think most most advantages here are clitoral Allen your seven-year-old is gonna be great at that. Yes. Oh, yeah. No, I've noticed there's some skills There's no skills or and I'm trying to highlight it for him to like Yeah, keep working on that But we I've been I downloaded a game recently like a train simulator I've never had like a simulator, one of those games. I was like, this is pretty fun.

And I did that one. And then the one that my son and I like to play together is like a urban planning game called Urban Flow. Oh, what's that? Sounds relaxing. You're looking at, you've got a bird's eye view of an intersection in a city and you're in control of the stoplights and Okay, cars are coming, you know randomly

And you get to control you got a team up with your partner to go Okay, it's your turn and then their cars go and if you're all because if they're all going it's chaos if you don't have This you don't get in the flow if you don't get in that urban flow, you know I would be a great video game. Can I pitch this to you Jordan you work in video games sometimes? Yeah, you take this to the crash bandicoot I'll tell crash and Coco that I want to have a meeting with them. I want a doctor cortex I want a simulator video game set in that room from the taking of Pelham one two three Yeah, Walter Mathau goes where all the New York subway trains are blinking lights on a big giant

1970s like computer wall I love that and then a Japanese person comes in and Walter Mathau says something racist to kind of takes you out of the movie for a minute. You have to pause the game and say, well, it's a different time, a different time, you know, at the time, at the time. Yeah, I am. I usually don't like, you know, anything that could be categorized as a cozy game. Maybe I don't know if this traffic thing would be in the cozy game category. I mean, it kind of sounds like it. Intense games are cozy for you.

Like you're a guy that plays like super fast games to go to sleep. Yeah, no, I, yeah, the, you know, I talk often on this show about the Dark Souls games and those are like hyper challenging things, but it makes me, yeah, just chills me out. But I did start a kind of a cozy game that I have been surprised at how much I'm enjoying it.

It's called Dave the Diver, and you're a diver, and you fish, you go underwater and shoot fish during the day, and then you- What's your name? Dave. Oh, you can rename your character, so he's Butt-Head the Diver. And what does Dave do again? He dives. Oh, okay can rename your character so he's Butt-Head the Diver. And what does Dave do again? He dives. Oh, okay.

Got it. And, you know, so you shoot fish in the day, so there's a little bit of a, like, soft shooter element. Yeah, like I'm not going to do anything that doesn't have a grenade launcher. Right. So you can't get a grenade launcher and just fire it at a fish, which is fun. And then it's okay to cook for some reason later, even though you shot it with a grenade launcher.

But then you take the fish you caught back to a sushi restaurant, and then you work at the sushi restaurant serving people. What? And it is very, like, there's a little timed challenge to it, but it's hard to lose. It's very generous. And just, and you have to go and like pour tea and then like clean the dishes

And I'm loving that part of it. I'm like, this is the kind of shit I hate in video games, but I don't know this Dave the diver thing cleaning up this little sushi counter has been really nice My youngest child is really into VR. Okay, we got one of those Virtual reality. Thank you Alan. Yeah, you would know this from the Sony Metreon We got one of those into our fees Freedom my oldest is into Arby's We got one of these headsets, right? And I thought in my head,

I was gonna put this headset on and play Skyrim. Basically, I just thought, well, this is a headset for playing Skyrim, right? Pretty much. Gotta be. It turns out that the only games on this is job simulators. Yeah. Like the only, my eight year old is just wearing this helmet and pretending to work at Target.

Wow. It's not branded. It should be. Sure. That's how we're going to get rich. Bring this to the cash man people. Work at Target Simulator. Great benefits, great virtual benefits.

That's like my middle kid, Scarlett, she likes to play rhythm games. There's one called Ninja something that she likes. But the youngest one will only play these games where they have a job, huh? And it's so boring and ugly and I just want like this is this incredible technology. It's like the first time that you saw Mark Zuckerberg's avatar in the metaverse in like like a TV news report and you're like Why would you put on a headset to look that shitty? news report and you're like, why would you put on a headset to look that shitty? It's sort of like that.

I want to be surrounded by an immersive fucking world of orcs and instead it's just I got a flipper and I have to flip burgers. Most of the media I consume these days is to talk about it on a podcast. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I don't consume any media that I won't be talking about later. But I, for a podcast, played Power Wash Simulator. Power Wash Simulator. This is where you're given a dirty object, car, garage-

Sticky nuts. Not even, I wish. No, nothing interesting. Okayicky nuts. Not even, I got, I wish. No, nothing interesting. Okay, Jordan! What? Bring this to the Crash Bandit. Here's my idea. Sure.

Taint Blaster. Hold on, hold on, Dingo Dial? It's Jordan. Are you sitting down? Call Crash. Jordan, Taint Blaster, It's a simulator of being it Your taints dusty right and a bear hoses it down with a hose Oh, so there's an anthropomorphic bear no no no this is a bear like a cultural. Oh, okay. Yeah sure no That's a good idea. I only went to Coachella, so I would you get washed there. Oh my taint actually

It was dusty there too when. When you did it, Jordan, I guess I should have asked, was it a bear or was it a tank girl? It was, gosh, I'm trying to remember my, you know, it's funny, I can't even remember my taint blaster's face. You know it's so fucked up. Alan, you know what they say, they say, if you can remember your taint blaster,

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Yeah, that was, yeah, in my mind, that's who blasted my taint. But honestly- And then this is a real thing that happened? Yeah, it's a real thing. Yeah, and an oft-repeated story on this show. I'll give you the Cliff's notes. I was a burning man, a man offered to wash my taint. I took him up on it.

The end. I could do a version with some more specifics. It's a little more funny, but. It's more of a desert notes than a cliff notes. Should I recognize? That's true. It is in the desert. Can you call the Crash Brandy group people and tell them my face?

I can't keep calling them. I sound insane. I'm just calling them every two minutes. They're always grateful to hear from you, Jordan. No, it's true. They're big fans. And I don't get together with Crash and Coke enough. Yeah, I know.

It's one of those things. You know, you get busy, They're big fans. And I don't get together with Crash and CoCo enough. I know. You know, you get busy. We're all so busy. Crash is busy. It's really important to raise your children respecting all species, especially bandicoots. You're right. Do you have any children? No.

I gotta get a son. I'm working on it. Okay. Alan, we're just playing the hits right now. This is our Coachella set. It's 35 minutes. Mastodon's coming on after us. Yeah, this is our...

We're gonna be playing Coachella, Alan, and it's just we're performing episode 242 in its entirety. Right, yes. I love those. So we'll be talking about full chore. We'll be the whole nine yards. It's like... what's the encore? Yeah, oh, that's when we do Del Monte fashion For the real one for the real ones who remember the time Jordan had a dream about the phrase Del Monte fashion About what it might mean

Again good podcast. It's a really good podcast. Everyone agrees this podcast is good. Alan? I believe it. Alan, you? I believe it to be true because I know it. Your podcast is a walking podcast. It's a walking podcast, yeah. Why did you decide to start a walking podcast?

I don't know. It might not have been a good decision. I don't know. I really like the podcast. Well, thanks. You know what it was is that it was a confluence of walking related things in my life, these overlapping concentric circles of that all related to walking. I've always loved walking tours, historical tours.

Sure, sure. I thought you were saying for a moment, I thought you said, I've always loved walking toward and of course, no way. Forwards backwards, I'll sidestep you know sure oh yeah we're talking about good Dark Souls you got a side step or you're not gonna defeat the boss you just never know where walking will find you in your life yes and so I loved and appreciated her of walking tours you know You know, when my wife and I would travel, always look for, is there a little walking tour or something,

you know, to get to know a place? I love walking tours too. They're great. They're really fun. A popular, but perhaps evil, bedroom booking website introduced like an activity section a few years ago like I was in Mexico and I was like I'm gonna look at these activities and I looked at it and I got a walking tour it was so fucking great and I was like I guess I'm an old person with like a fucking TWA tote bag slung over my like a vinyl like a vinyl carry on bag that I got

for free from TWA and like a camera around my neck on a strap and and you know a coconut hat now because I love this shit. It's great. It's so great. It's such a great simple thing to do. And you know, I was also finding that just walking was the only consistent exercise I was willing to commit to. And I crossed some threshold where I was like,

I gotta go for a walk. Now I can't not go for a walk. So I'm just going, I gotta go. It's a mental and physical health thing. And so I don't know, it was just kind of like I was, the walls of walking were kind of closing in. I was like, maybe this is some kind of a podcast. So I made this.

That's when you should start a podcast. When you feel like the walls are closing in on you. And what I did was, though, it wasn't really a podcast. First I made, I was living in Pasadena at the time and I was obsessed with old Pasadena. I just kind of became like I would just find myself always drawn to go around. To the spaghetti factory? The cheesecake factory. Like there's something about a business district that is really attractive to me. I'm not a businessman, but just the walkability of it. when you say you were obsessed with old Pasadena, I was joking that you were talking about old town Pasadena, the like borderline, malish business district where my therapist's office

is. But in and I assumed, oh, he must be talking about the history of Pasadena. But no, you're literally talking about the Cheesecake Factory. Yeah, Apple Well, it's both. So I was like, well, look at all these, there's an old building that's got to be over a century old right next to this one, right next to this one. There's just a high volume of closely connected old historic buildings. And then I became like a member of the Pasadena Heritage Society or whatever, which gave me access to the archives. The John Birch Society. Wow, access.

So I could go downstairs to the archives and I started reading. Sex pamphlets. Sex pamphlets. What are they called? Surveys, old surveys. Okay. And yeah, and I just found it very soothing and relaxing.

And I was like, well, maybe I can do like an audio tour I can get gather information and I can walk around and it'd be nice if you could hear me and talk, you know with you It would sound like oh wouldn't that be nice if I'm like walking with you So I recorded that and and I made this little this this like little three episode thing of old Pasadena. I was like Maybe this is something people would listen to because I enjoy listening to audio tours when I go to museums or when I go to Europe. I love Rick Steves. Audio tours, you can walk around, but they don't do it. There's one in New York that I did years ago and in Boston, but there was nothing in LA.

So I was like, maybe this is a little niche thing. It's not a podcast. I didn't consider it a podcast or anything. So then when I don't know, I made that, never released it, but I will one day, I think. I think I did it backwards. So now I'm sort of doing the thing where I'm just, I sort of deconstructed that into what the podcast is, what walking about is, which is just me walking around with a friend or a person that, you know, that's just fun to walk around with, that I admire and we're in a place that's significant for some reason,

maybe significant to them, historically significant. Maybe there's a great cheesecake factory there. Maybe there's a good cheesecake factory. And I don't know, I just came, I just was really just got really interested and felt more connected to the place when I knew like the history of a building. I mean, it just sounds lame as hell. And I'm, I love that shit. I'll go. Anybody wants to go on an LA conservancy walking tour with me? I was like, people ask me, people ask us all the time, like, what should I do when I'm

in LA? Cause they think what they should do is go to the martial arts museum in Burbank that we talk about a lot. I've never been inside that martial arts museum because it is probably bad in there and you shouldn't take time from your vacation. We talk about it because it's a funny thing to talk about. But the real answer, there's really two real answers as to what you should do when you're in Los Angeles as far as I'm concerned. One of them is the Museum of Jurassic Technology, which is the most amazing thing in the world. But then once you have gone to the Museum of Jurassic Technology, the LA Conservancy does these so fucking cool walking tours, mostly of downtown LA, but also some other

parts of Los Angeles, where you get to like go in fucking abandoned train stations and like you get to go in the Bradbury building from From fucking Blade Runner and all this cool amazing stuff There is nothing I love more than someone pointing at a building and telling me about it It's my number one favorite thing. I have had a lot of luck with walking tours that are also haunted tours Oh, I don't like believe in ghosts or true crime stuff that much. You don't believe in true crime? I don't believe in true crime. I believe it's false. True crime. I'm a snomer. None of those women were killed. They are still alive somewhere. Yes. Blonde girls are never kidnapped. They're never kidnapped. And it was never the husband that did it. Nope.

You're a big free Manson guy. Yes, huge free Manson guy. La Bianca, la bullshit. Thank you. You see my t-shirt? Bullshit. Is what Jordan used to say. La bullshit.

Yes, so the haunted walking tour has some fun things about it. It happens at night, which is great, because if you're there, if you're in the other city doing something or working or something, you're maybe not getting the historic walking tour in the day on a tour. That starts around 9 p.m. So very convenient.

You do get to see all the cool historical places. There's a little element of naughty fun there. And on the tour, might be some thick goth women. There might be. Big fan of haunted tours. Yeah. You get everything. You get all the fun little stories. You get the history. It's all night time. You don't have to wear the sunscreen. You don't have to wear the sunscreen. I hate that stuff. Maybe they take you to a little pub at the end or something and finish it off, you know?

Yeah. Adults only, you know? They take you to a little pub in those thick coffins. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the dream, isn't it? That's the dream.

One of my favorite elements of your podcast, Alan, is Andy Richter's raging contempt for aerobic exercise. I kept waiting for Andy, one of the funniest guys in the world, just one of the most, and I kept waiting for him to have a funny thing to say about how much he hates aerobic exercise, but no, he just truly deeply hates it. And as a person who hates exercising myself, like going for a walk, oh, love it. I could go for a walk forever. Like if I'm, if I'm in someone else's city and I don't have plans, I will gladly walk

an hour to something. Oh, absolutely. Gleefully, just to get to a thing because there's stuff in between Absolutely. I'm gonna go to like South by Southwest next week and part of like my whole the whole re way I like was like looking for places. I was like, I think this is where I got to be For to go see this movie, but it's a 45 minute walk from this place that I can stay. And so I was like, that's perfect. I don't need to rent a car or anything.

And, uh, I can, I can see on the map. I will, I will figure out a way that's that goes into a lot of my, we did that in Philadelphia where it was like, okay, I can take the car back because we got to drive from Jersey and then I'm going to drop the car off and then we'll have three days where we're just walking around Philly and that's going to be great. So a lot of my travel decision making will be based on walking distance. I love walking around Philly is great because you can eat cheese steaks on the way.

The Austin will probably be a fun place to walk because in your 45 minute walk you will pass 55 great bars. Oh, yeah every building great bar Great bars, you got the Riverwalk goth the river You got a lot, you know, there's gonna be some nice some beautiful University campus, you know And a comedy club where you can say anything you want They there's not there's no ban on comedy. It's too hot in there for snowflakes. Sure.

But yeah, so I mean, it was just like, I do, so I sort of, I'm sort of capturing or attempting to capture a bit of a sense of like a, yeah, it's a little bit of a historical, you know, there's some of those little factoids peppered in and maybe you get a little sense of a place and And then on down the line, I'm hoping to establish You know some sort of reputation of enjoying walking and history so that I can segue smoothly into being a tour guide Yeah, that's and that's it and that's the promised land for me Alan I don't think that local public television host is beyond your reach. Oh, that could happen. I appreciate that. That's a, you know, a huge fan of I mentioned Rick Steves,

also Hewl-Hauser is like, you know, that's the only comedic impression I ever did. Like when I moved here, I was like, Hewl-Hauser, this guy's amazing. And I kind of just already said, Oh, my, I was like, Hewlhouser, this guy's amazing. And I kind of just already sound similar. Oh my, Hewl is tremendous. Wow, look at that. And I was like the only ever character I ever did. A dog eating an avocado? Was like me and him.

This dog loves avocados. A store that makes sand? It's fun to do. Look at that. He doesn't know anything about what he's getting into and just puts a microphone in people's faces and chats with them. It's just like the most comforting thing. So yeah, those are a couple of touchstones for me. And yeah, so that would be amazing if I could, you know, get into that world.

I'd love a little EBS action. That would be fun. I would say the one big difference between Walking About and California's Gold, Huel Hauser's television show, is that Walking About does have some edit points. Yeah, yeah. Unbroken one camera shoot.

A 30 minute episode of California's Gold, 10 minutes is him just walking from one part of the area He's describing to a different one and in his case. It's riveting for me It's like nobody wants to be a part of this just raw audio. You don't have his rock No, no one does no one does speaking of edit points you guys want to take a break and then come back for a little bit more Yeah, okay. I was having a good time. Oh no, let's- That's fine. No, we gotta have it.

We gotta edit point now. Edit now. Edit now. And cut. Stephen, it's my show. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jessica. It's Jordan, Jesse Goh. I am Jesse Thorn, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective.

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La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la It's Jordan Jesse Goh. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. And I'm the molasses boy, Alan McLeod. What a fucking legend. Yes, a legend in his own time. Yeah.

Fucking walk podcast legend, podcast guest legend. Yeah. his own time. Yeah. Fucking walk podcast legend podcast guest legend. Yeah. Legendary molasses boy. Did you know that the former the current manager of the Texas Rangers, former manager of the San Francisco Giants, Bruce Bochy, published an entire book that was just his favorite walks to go on. Really? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I know you got to get with this guy. This guy was not on my radar at all.

Yeah, who are the other- Bruce Bochy? Yeah, this guy's a real slow talker too. You're gonna like him. Oh man. Who are the other walking legends? Um. Not Forrest Gump, he ran. Forrest Gump ran. My daughter Grace is one. Okay, your daughter, yeah. She's gonna walk across America in my shoes. Clown shoes. I mean, we are, tomorrow, I'm gonna go on your podcast and we're gonna walk in my neighborhood in... I'm very excited. ... in Montecito Heights and Highland Park, Lincoln Park. And we will discuss a bit of a walking legend.

Yeah. I don't wanna, you know... Look, we can give a little preview. Give a preview! There's, not far from my house, there is this place called the Lummis House. And the Lummis House is this adobe-style house. It's not actually adobe. Like, I thought it was actually old, but it was built in like 1915 or something. And it belonged to this guy named Charles Lummis, who also ran the Southwest Museum, which is right there by my house.

And he got famous by writing a magazine column while he walked across America. And like the thing, this was a time when people didn't know anything about America, except for like New York and Philadelphia. And so it was a big deal that he went to like Arizona. And one of the big things was that he invented southwestern aesthetics. Like the not he didn't invent the things that are their constituent elements, but he invented the idea of that being a look, right? Like Navajo rugs and splatter painting and fucking things that are turquoise colored and, you know, sandy pink and adobe walls and all that shit. Like

he sort of codified that into a look that was a real fad and was the first, I mean, both literally Native American, because many of its elements came from Native American cultures, but also Native to America, like aesthetic movement was Southwestern shit. And then he moved to fucking LA, was the boss of the library for a while, and also collected Indian baskets, and also had this weird Adobe house where movie stars

came to visit him a lot. I mean classic history guy right? Yep. What a great guy. Wore great hats too like big giant hats. Yeah that guy rules. Yeah that's a legendary Walker. One of the first, oh yeah legendary Walker. I guess he was sort of considered one of the first preservationists, you know, just in general of that concept, you know, preserving history. Luke Sky, Texas Ranger. A lot of great Walker out there. Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know.

I often like associated with like those, there's another like, I don't know, I often associate with those, there's another, I don't know if it was PBS, but there was a guy named Ralph Story who had a show called Things That Aren't Here Anymore, and he would just, it's another LA history show. Why don't we have local public television shows? Don't know. There's one, there's a guy named, hang on, Nathan Masters, who I enjoy the show,

and I'm freaking blanking on the exact title of the show, but I will watch it on PBS SoCal. Lost LA. Lost LA, yes. And it's a great show, he's like really he like really knows his stuff He doesn't have like the he's not like a Hewlhouser, you know what I mean? But but it's really there's a lot of interesting stuff So if you are a low LA local and you're into that stuff

You can you can look him up and watch a little little chunks that'll that'll really be interesting and surprise you There are two public television stations in Los Angeles up and watch little chunks that'll really be interesting and surprise you. There are two public television stations in Los Angeles, one of which is very big and one of which is tiny and licensed to the school district. Their signature program was a show where you call in and get help with your homework. The smaller station, maybe 10 years ago or so, a couple of guys emailed me. They said, we're listeners to Bullseye and Jordan Jesse Goh, and we're grant writers. And we went and had a meeting at the tiny public television station, which was on regular television.

Like people get, you get in your cable, you get it over the air. And they said, we convinced them to let us write grants for the station to see if we could get money to make original programming. Do you have any pitches? And Kim Clark and I, Kimberly Clark, the past Jordan Jesse Goh guest, one of our faves, we're trying to get them to let us make a fucking Huelhauser style show. And we had a format for it. It wasn't just wandering around. But I never got... That was your mistake. I know. I know. Never got in the room. So I just want to say, if you're out there and

you need fucking... You know, Peter Segel did that thing where he rode around on his motorcycle and learned about the Constitution. Oh, I haven't seen that. Yeah. This is my new life goal because you can age in place in public television. Like, that's the advantage here. Like, I'm past, I hosted television shows 15 years ago, but that's, that part of my life is over for now because I'm too bald, right? I'm just too, I'm just too bald. But on public television, you could be like an 84 year old nun who just talks about

paintings for an hour and people will be like yes Have you seen that fucking nun show? I'm willing to I'm willing to become a nun sister Whatever it takes if you first you'll have to have a mom hit out on you and then let me pitch you shows Let me host your shows that you got an art show that needs a host. I'm so into it What a dream that would be. There's some gaps. I mean, we've lost Bob Ross. I mean, these old masters. I should mention I have no skills or expertise.

Well, that's why Huell is so inspiring because he just showed up and just is like energy. Have you ever seen Huellhouser? Curiosity. energy you know have you ever seen a Hewlhouser there there is a there is like I believe CBS special he did that's on YouTube that's called country people mm-hmm and it's from the early 80s I think and it is Hewlhouser as a like network television guy like he is like skinny and handsome. I mean, he's always been very charismatic. But like, as the host of California's Gold, he was sort of a, you know, you guys know this guy, like a 60 year old gay guy in a Hawaiian shirt, you know, just like a guy

that you want to be friends with. That's him on California's Gold. On this country people, he looks like a Entertainment Tonight guy. Oh right. And he's just him like in Nashville like interviewing Dolly Parton and shit and you're like oh Huelhauser had a career as a normal television person. You know yeah he found his niche. Found his gold. But I think because he was from is that Kentucky where he was from?

Something like that. Yeah, I think that coming from You know the south especially I came from Alabama to LA. I think you have just like that Outside eye that makes it really everything is just you just feel like a tourist here endless I've been here for 20 years and I still feel like a tourist in the city and And I don't know, that's why I'm just really excited when I learn stuff just about buildings and that sort of thing. And because I feel like, you know, stuff is now graduating into being over a century old.

And I feel like people don't consider LA to be an old town or an old city. But I mean, there is a lot of old, just beyond just the cinematic history, and you got that deep old mission history, you know. But you know. I consider LA pretty old, especially when I gotta get up in the middle of the night three times to go piss.

Oh boy. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Oh, tell me about it. That tracked. Tell me about it. Huh?

Yeah. Yeah. It did, see? It did. It made perfect sense. It made sense. I get it. I get it. LA is old because you have to piss.

Hey, Stephen. Hey, Stephen. I have a question for you. Sure. Shoot. When I said that I think LA is old because you have to go piss, that tracked, right? Of course. That literally is the most universal truth of all.

Thanks. And Stephen, just to check, this is what a podcast is, right? I think so. Okay. Yeah, pretty sure. Great. Yeah, so LA is old like your old balls. Yes.

Sure. All night long. Stephen, can I check in with one more thing? When you have to piss? Okay, I know I didn't know that actually I thought it was the liver Great when something momentous happens to you give us a call at 206-984 for fun or just send us a voice memo at JJ go at maximum fun org JJ ghost Jordan stands for Jordan. Jesse go does Oh, here's a person. No go go. Yeah, go Jordan. Jesse go. Oh

Okay, what's the geo for. What's the G.O. for? Let's hear that first moment. Hi, this is Osvaldo calling with a momentous occasion from the state of Mexico. This is one that I wanted to share with you guys because I couldn't really enjoy it properly at the moment as it was happening. The other day I was in the car with my dad he was driving and I was looking ahead at the car right in front of us it was a Ford Explorer I noticed that right above from when the thingy with the cars model on it know where it says Explorer the person had a sticker that

said anal so we were driving right behind an anal Explorer yeah love you guys thank you love you to us Waldo first of all as Waldo call back every week please your our new favorite caller. Sure, great caller. Just want to listen to... Also, do you do ASMR videos? Oh, yeah. Would love to hear ASMR videos. Very soothing voice.

Do you think Osvaldo would take me on a walking tour of Estilo, Mexico? Oh, it sounds like it, or at least some sort of a driving tour. Oh, yeah. The bumper stickers of a beautiful land. The bumpers of Mexico. Okay, so the real question is, do they produce bumper stickers that say anal just for people who want to indicate on their bumper that they are very careful? Or I think he had a bumper sticker for the Panama Canal and just took a pair of

scissors to it. It had just kind of been weathered and kind of faded off. Right. Yeah. Originally, he's like an old Kmart without the A. Are there other non-explorer vehicles to which you could Are there other non-explorer vehicles to which you could append anal? Let's, you know... Anal ionic doesn't work for me. Anal Prius C doesn't work for you, Jordan. But anal navigator? Anal Navigator. Lincoln Anal Navigator.

That would be nice. Oh, an anal tiburon. Yeah. Spanish for shark. Because we can take a shark up the ass. I like that. Sure, yeah. The cartilage stimulates the prostate. Yeah.

Anal veloster. What's a veloster? That's a Hyundai. Okay. Yeah, sure. I mean, I think that one is a nonsense phrase, but it has the right feeling. Right, yeah. You can get that up there.

Yeah. My first car was an anal Taurus. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. That happened to me when I went to the Running of the Bulls. Oh boy. One of the bulls caught me right up the old keister. Oh no.

That's how old LA is. That's how old LA is when you get it up the ass with the Running of the Bulls. Deep, deep horns. Sure, oh yeah. As rich and deep as our history. Thank you. This shows about 80 minutes. We say stuff the whole time. That's how you can tell it to body cameras. Because we talk with language. Okay, we got one more

momentous occasion. Let's hear it. Hi Jordan. Hi Jesse Jesse, hi John Hamm from Mad Men. I'm calling about a momentous occasion. My neighbor is selling her house and so there's been a lot of people in and around the house over the last month or so but they love to leave the lights on inside the house one of which shines directly into my bedroom window all night long So I called the number on the sign out front and the head of this realty group Gave me the code for the lockbox on the front door Well, she I guess forgot to tell anyone else that I wanted the lights off and

So now every single night I break into my neighbor's house and turn off the lights Love you guys even my I if Yeah, just do just even as I've started even as I've Were again, we're kind of we're playing the hits today, you know what the people want They're not here to hear a bunch of shit off the new album most days We think of all new stuff, but they were just We get it that's it seems like it could be a t-shirt or something I think it has been right if we had living my life

My eyes are stickers or something anyway, I don't know opportunity I I'm what is this guy call his name Joel, I think, does that sound right? Yeah. Joel, are you not jacking off in this? God, you got it, dude. It's transgressive. You gotta jack off in there a little bit. It's a house!

Ooh, the foundation, the roof, the chimney. The hearth. Ugh, the hearth. Could you imagine, Jordan, if you had codes to lock boxes? Oh my god. What a freak-off that would be. Ooh, yes, it surely would be.

Listen, if you're out there, do not give me the code to your lock box. Yeah. Unless you want the house fucked. Realtors fucking love lock boxes. They do? They get off on it. They're fucking nasty freaks They're like, ooh

The I'm pressing these buttons that are numbered but they have two numbers for each button and it's a weird mechanical button I know just how to press them. They say I have to roll up the sleeves on my blazer to push the button. Yeah I'd drive a Cadillac in 2025. We're the only people left to drive them or a Buick possibly. I've encountered this sort of light situation before. They need to make these lights not so pointy at your neighbors. I guess. That's my takeaway. My Aunt Debbie, well first of all, Joel, get window blinds. Oh yeah, that's a great point. Why are we not having, what's the curtains situation here?

No, no, breaking and entering is easier. Yeah. Blackout curtains would do you right. Oh yeah, there you go. My Aunt Debbie is a realtor, lifestyle transition specialist, Debbie Miller. Look her up if you're a boomer, you're looking to maybe move to a plant community in your older age so you can age in place in Northern Virginia. Anyway, every time I would go visit Deb and Wayne, my uncle and my cousins, I would, my cousins are also named Deb and Wayne my uncle and my cousins I would my cousins are also named Devin Wayne They would have a different new

Oldsmobile or Buick or Cadillac and these are cars that you didn't really see it. You would see a 15 year old one on the road You would see a 15-year-old one on the road in my neighborhood. Like, you'd never see a new one. And then they just had a parade. Every year, there was a new, like, large semi-luxury vehicle. The people who were not buying Infinities or whatever, they're just half a step down from that and very, with

like tufted seats. Like a tufted seat, like a big wide seat, like a business class, like business class on an airplane, but inside a car. That's all. That's who's buying those cars. That's the realtors. Oldsmobile, I think, went out of business, but that's who's still buying those anal navigators Got the big seats and all navigators, you know, which you know, what's in there the prostate Stimulate well only way to find out navigate in there But on the headlamp get a map. What do you need a fucking star map?

Get in there and Flick that prostate. Sure. Press on it for enhanced orgasms. You're gonna see Moby's house in here? Moby's house is up your ass? You think you're gonna see Moby's house in there? Is that what we're talking about with this star map?

I want a yes ad, but what's going on? Is he on a star map? I assume. I was imagining shipboard navigation style maps, but you're describing maps to the homes of the stars. Oh, oh, oh, okay. Sorry, I thought you said star map. Okay, my bad. Moby is such a funny, vulgar celebrity.

That's what you think of celebrities. Okay, I saw him, I was walking in Griffith Park the other day and I saw Moby You got Moby on the brain. I got Moby on the brain. Oh boy. Yeah. I saw Moby and Casey Affleck. Hey!

At Trails. At the same walk? Were they together? Same, not together. Not together. It is always strange, you know, very, very LA phenomenon when there are two famous people in a place and they're not acknowledging each other. Yeah. I wanted to be like, Moby, I just saw Casey over there at Trails.

Casey Affleck. Moby just goes to Trails every day and he just sits down, he gets himself an avocado toast and he goes, avocado toast and he goes, my name's Moby, I used to be in hardcore bands. Actually, I'm punk rock. I pivoted to electronic music, but I have a background. Yeah, he just yells about that. We know. We know Moby. I don't know.

One time I went to our friend Dave Hill had a book reading for his first book. He's friends with Moby. Moby was there. I met Moby. He seemed nice. His vegan restaurant closed down and I felt bad for Moby. Moby was there, I met Moby, he seemed nice. He liked walking. His vegan restaurant closed down and I felt bad for him. Oh, did it really? Yeah, I think so.

It closed, it's really good. Yeah, I've heard it was kind of a win. I bet there was. I'm part of the problem. I'm not going to the restaurant, so it's closing. But maybe it just moved or something, I don't know. I like eating cheeseburgers. Yeah, cook up one of those, Moby.

Moby, if you're listening. What the red. Do you think the vegan restaurant was Moby's? white whale oh Yeah, right if you trying to do something you see where I'm kind of cuz he's eaten whale. You know what Moby? Dick yes whale restaurant Yes, whale restaurant podcast 9844 fun or just send us a voice memo at JJ go at maximum fun that or we'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse go Hey you yeah you with the gigapad

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Every Thursday at MaximumFun.org. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. It's Jordan, Jesse Goh, I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective. Alan McLeod, Moassas Boy. Okay guys, top breakfast movies. This came up in the break. Before we take this thing home, we. Okay guys, top breakfast movies. This came up in the break.

Before we take this thing home, we gotta go over our top breakfast movies. Jordan, you nominated The Phantom Thread. Phantom Thread's great, Bridge of Spies, great breakfast in that movie. Oh, is this, do all movies with great breakfasts, are all movies with great breakfasts movies that I thought I should like

and turned out to kind of not like? No, maybe, maybe you're not just immediately enchanted by the sight of someone eating a big old breakfast. God, remember when fucking Tom Hanks was in a spy movie directed by Steven Spielberg, and then it turned out that I didn't like it that much? I didn't hate it, but I was like,

this should be my ultimate movie! I'm a big bridges spies guy Yeah, maybe it's the bridge infrastructure some guys are breakfast guys some guys are bridge guys and some guys are house humbers Not since Logan lucky was I so Slightly disappointed by a movie that seemed like it would be a movie I would love but actually I thought it was only fine if you like dinner for breakfast big night If you like dinner for breakfast big night If you like chocolate for breakfast, how about chocolate?

How about this let me how about this if you like sharks for breakfast what about jaws And if you like yum-yum Jedi's for breakfast return of the Jedi I haven't heard of that it's great huh you like you walks I've never seen return of the Jedi I've seen battle for Endor right yeah return of the Jedi it's a walk movie yeah the sequel to battle for Endor. When I interviewed Bruce Valanche the other day, which was great. We're going to try and cross your fingers, knock on wood that Bruce Valanche comes on Jordan Jesse Goh because he was a blast. Great guy.

Legendary comedy writer. And one of the things he wrote on was the Star Wars holiday special. And when I was reading the part of his book that was about the Star Wars holiday special. And when I was reading the part of his book that was about the Star Wars holiday special, the thing that I was most interested to read about was not anything, I mean like there were funny stories about Bea Arthur and everything, full of funny stories. I mean it was a very colorful production and so on. But it was the idea that George Lucas had brought it to the network because he his original conception of like everyone knows that his original conception of Star Wars is that the there was going to be three movies and they were numbers four, five and six, right?

Because he had three other movies in mind that he was going to make after that or whatever, right? Everybody knows, look, I'm a medium Star Wars. I know that I Had no idea that he also had three other movies in mind one of which was a musical turned about Chewbacca's that turned into the Star Wars holiday special. I didn't know I just assumed I knew about the Star Wars holiday special I'd seen little bits of it on YouTube. I assumed that was a thing where the network said, man, can we get into the Star Wars thing? And somebody controlled the rights and wrote it off. And George Lucas was like, well, I guess I nothing I can do about this. No, George

Lucas wanted he thought, oh, and also there should be a musical about Wookiees He's like there's gonna be these three movies then these three movies that go before it and also a musical about Wookiees for television Wow and in their native language Or whatever That was like the Star Wars holiday special they put art carny in it and the reason they put art carny in it besides just people liking art carny from the honeymooners or whatever he was on is They were like yeah There's got to be a guy to say stuff to the Wookiees so you can tell what the Wookiees are saying because this is stars the right

He's and we can't have subtitles Yeah, it is handy to know it's great how everybody understands the wookiees by the way art Carney go on Jordan Jesse go yeah come on what are you doing art Carney and next time he's playing Largo we got to get him in here yeah let's let's bring in let's bring in Carney let's bring in what's the guy from the main guy from the honeymooners gosh yeah I don't know started that sentence and then we did a whole recap podcast of we watched all of the smokey and the bandit movies he says bang zoom to the moon right yeah zoom to

the moon anyway from the gambler damn it anyway, uh, I feel like it's on the tip of my brain. We should get a producer to look this kind of thing up. Oh, man. He just dropped his phone up. He did it. He's taking his phone to the Apple screen store. Dropping out of the window so we couldn't see him. I was looking something else up

and then I didn't hear what you said. The coffee flipped up into the air Actor from the I think there's something going on at max fun Yeah, not things going on taking care of another issue everything's happening. Maybe we can Plug Alan's podcast one more time. We'll never think of Jackie Jackie Gleason Jackie figured it never think of Jackie Gleason's name. Jackie Gleason! Jackie Gleason! Jackie Gleason. We figured it out.

Jesus Christ. We all did. See, this is an educational podcast. Hand Eye Coordination. Hand Eye Coordination. Jackie Gleason, our carny. Sure. Crash Bandicoot characters.

Uh-huh. Crash Bandicoot. Alan, I will say this. So I told you this before we went on the air, but when there was some talk that your podcast might come to Max Fun, I subscribed to it because my colleagues Kevin and Bickram wanted some feedback about what I thought about it. I listened to it and I was like, I love this shit and I stayed subscribed to it for months

and I was listening to every episode, which I had come to a point in my life where I was not listening to comedy podcasts very much because I was too sad or upset about the world and And it was no longer helping me. So I only was listening to baseball podcasts and I was listening to your podcast every week and stop podcasting yourself I know I never stopped listening to every week but I was listening to it every week and then I hadn't heard that you guys were signing up and I maybe like a month ago I was like I guess he's gonna I guess they're taking the show to some other network fuck that guy I was like I can't listen to this knowing that we lost but now we we like him! It turns out you did join the network.

Oh no, it was always a foregone conclusion. I don't know, these things take a while for some reason and I don't know why the heck happened. It's such a, it's a very funny podcast, but it is also an incredibly easy podcast to listen to. It is so, it's so lovely to listen to because it is full of rich atmospheric sound. It sounds tremendous. It is very calming and interesting in addition to being very funny. And then, you know, sometimes Andy Richter says something, or Lauren Lampkus or whatever says something crazy funny. Or our friend Alan also says funny things.

Don't expect it from me. I leave that entirely to the guest. Yeah, and then and then Alan provides little bits of context and narration That like most things Alan says you can't quite tell if they're a parody or not Like that why pick a side I just is like I like that so I'm just gonna do it and I also think it's funny sometimes It's absolutely tremendous. It's called walking about Alan McLeod our guest Jordan Jesse go Produced by Stephen Ray Morris our theme music is love you by the free design courtesy of the free design and light in the attic Records Jordan. I'll tell you this Max fun drive right around the corner. Oh, yeah. Are you fucking humping door jams in anticipation?

I'm humping, I'm pumping, and I'm stumping. Every morning, every morning during the Max Fund Drive, Jordan, we're going to be on at 930 AM Pacific, 1230 PM. Eastern streaming live on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. So come join us and check us out and send us your favorite subreddits. Send us your favorite amazing subreddits. We're looking for real niches that are not jokes. Yes. What is your special interests you like to share with other enthusiasts, or which special interests you just like to, you know, voyeuristically spy on? Yeah. Let us know.

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