Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Pathadena, with John Ross Bowie

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

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Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Under the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and sucks and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy Detective. Jordan, how come you're not at the Cholo Rap concert in Pershing Square right now, seeing Baby Bash Frankie J. and Little Rob?

Well, because I just, I love our fans too much. I would love to be watching MC Magic Baby Bash Frankie J, Lil Rob and Amanda Perez in Pershing Square one of the concerts that's been going on for the past five or six episodes Yeah

I just I love our fans would be so disappointed if I didn't show up and give them give them what they need No no it would be Let me finish Yeah to come

They need it They're gonna get all pent up They're going to be full of, Jordan, full of juices. Our fans told me that it would be fine for you to go to the concert. Uh-huh. Because Lil Rob is going to stop by after his set. Oh, okay. To be on the show.

To be on the show. He'll fill in for me. No, he's replacing it. Oh, wow. He's going to be a permanent replacement. Jesse, I'm so excited for you. The show is going to be huge. No, it's going to be incredible.

You're going to get a real, about as casual, a hip-hop fan. exists. Yeah. I do not recognize these names. Is that Lil Rob there? These are like, these are guys who, Baby Bash and Lil Rob

had minor national hits, but they're basically only famous in the Cholo community. Okay. But they are gods. Sure. Like, when I went to see

a concert that I did not know was a Cholo-themed classic soul concert. Should we just, our guest, our guest is here. He's a, he's a beloved regular. Why don't we introduce our guests? Let's get the guest in here. He had stuff to say.

I don't want to be presumptuous. Our guest. This isn't, this isn't Johnny first-timer. This is a, you know. Our guest is one of the stars. He's one of the stars of the show. Stewart fails to save the universe, which if you have not yet seen on HBO Max, is absolutely the sequel that Stewart saves his family deserve.

Oh, we like to think so, yeah. John Ross Bowie, hi, John. Hi, nice to be here. I'm congratulations on a great run here, by the way. Thanks, man. Yeah, I'm looking forward to little Rob taking over the second half of the interview, I'm assuming. Yeah. Not an interview, more of a chat.

Okay, great. Yeah, I didn't want to put too much pressure on you. Yeah. Yeah, so I think you had a McLaughlin group. Fantastic. Fantastic. Yeah, I would swing by the thing after I'm done. here the concert in Pershing Square,

but you just have one of those nights where you just don't feel like running into anybody you know. Yeah, I know. Yeah, and that's just where I am right now. And I just kind of want to just hop my car and head home, I think. I went to see Brenton Wood in Long Beach at the Long Beach Auditorium before he passed away. And he is like a guy who had a couple of National Soul hits in the 60s. The Ugum-Bogum-Bogum-Bogum song is one of them. Ugum-Bugum-Bug-Bug-Nab-Nab, baby.

and I did not know when I bought tickets to this show that he is an absolute god in the like low rider oldies community right oh wow um and so when what was that parking lot like it was incredible yeah must have been fucking amazing right John Ros Bowie I'm not fucking with you I don't think you are

that's why I asked a leading question it must have been insane did you get a little bit of a contact high from airbrush fumes yes like as soon as I stepped out of the car I could see that I was surrounded with, like, families that going from, like, age 8 to age 68, where everyone was wearing a peddleton shirt with only the top button button. Right. Like, it was incredible. Please tell me you took, like, a Honda Odyssey there or something.

Like, what's the squarest count? I drove there in my Hyundai. But when, during the course of that... To be fair, your Hyundai does have a... It bounces. It's got some bounce. I was to say a topless woman holding a snake air brushed on the hood. I should hope.

Barbara, Barbara Mason was also on the show. I'm trying to remember who else. Who's no parking on the dance floor, Christian? They were great. I can't think of who that is. Oh, no parking on the dance floor.

Is that, oh, oh, God. Anyway. It's not the Daz Band, but it's in that era. No, it's not the Daz Band.

Midnight Star. Midnight Star. Midnight Star were incredible because it just looked like a bunch of people that work at your post office, but also they're all wearing matching outfits and doing Kora Um, but anyway, Baby Bash was a surprise guest on this show, I'm going to conservatively call it four hours.

Okay. There was so many acts on this show. Fantastic. It was being the Long Beach Civic Auditorium, big venue. I mean like the Long Beach Arena. It's 2000, probably 3,000, 4,000. That's somewhere in there. And, uh, it was hosted by a DJ who was not qualified to host it, but did a lot of time.

Oh, no. I think he was the promoter. Oh, no. I think he was the promoter. But there was so many acts on it, including like a woman who, it may very well be, may very well have been Amanda Perez, who is like a like Gen Z. Chola, low rider, oldies, soul cover singer on Instagram and TikTok. Oh, okay.

Cover singer. Okay. Good leash. Yeah. Yeah. So she's, and I looked at her shit. So that spot's taken. I cannot even try to, okay. Her videos have like a million views on them. Yeah.

And it's all just her singing, I'm ready to learn or whatever. I wanted to do that, but then I found that she was doing it. So now I'm just complaining about Star Wars. Yeah. Oh, all right. Oh, great. About how it's too woke now. Oh, by all means.

Good work. Yeah. Finally, voice to the voiceless. Thank you. Yeah. When they brought Baby Bash on to do one song, maybe two songs. Right. the joint melted down.

Melted down. And you're just like the like squareness with which you are hitting the demo. Like they just know exactly who, I mean like this show, none of these, you know, we just last week was too short. Right. Like none of these people are famous people.

You know what I mean? Like I said, Baby Bash and Lil Rob, minor national hits, maybe Frankie Jay had a hit. But like, in Pershing Square, these people are heroes. These are the greatest musicians of all time. It's the constant artistic dilemma of you want to be something for everything, everyone or everything to someone, you know, and these guys have done their thing. John Ross Bowie, I have a question. I have a follow-up question about that. Yeah. Would you consider your current television program to be the weirdest regular television show or the regularest weird television show.

That's a really, really good question that somehow has not been posed to me yet on this entire press tour. I think it's the weirdest regular show because we come, you know, we have fairly mainstream DNA. You know, it's a Chuck Lorry show. It is a spinoff of an enormous hit sitcom

that ran for 12 years. It's also, sometimes you say, motherfucker on it. Yeah, but there's those little turns there. Yeah, so we have the liberty of being on HBO Macs so we can curse and shed blood. It's a very interesting aesthetic that combines prestige television and audience sitcom. There's no audience, but it really sits in a halfway point between the two.

It really does. And I honestly can't, and this is going to sound like I'm tuning my own horn, but I'm not. I'm viewing this as a student of the medium. I can't think of another time that a spinoff has gone this far off the fucking rails. You know, I really can't, you know, I really can't summon a time. Not even the tortellies. The tortellies was. Well, there was that Frazier where there was the misunderstanding about the dinner party.

There was, chouche. That, I was like, are they doing this? They, okay. What were they smoking in the writer's room? That was something else, yeah. That was, that was when, that was the Kelsey Grammer, uh, iwaska period. But I, I, no, but I really can't like, I, I don't know if you're old enough for this reference, Lou Grant.

That's one of the characters, of course, from televisions the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Who got a spinoff of his own that was no longer a multi-cam live audience sitcom. It was a single-cam one-hour drama. Okay, sure. That makes perfect sense. And he was running instead of a news department,

he was running a newspaper. Okay. And that was the, and so it was like an hour-a-lorn sort of quasi-rip from the headlines thing that ran for a couple seasons there. Is that Ed Asner? It is Ed Asner, yes.

Did you think that was just Ed Asner was like, I'll do it, but. It might have been. I'll do it. But under these very specific circumstances, it might have been that. Yeah. But what we're doing over on the Stewart show is, I mean, when you try to explain it to people who don't watch Big Bang, but you try to frame it in terms of friends. And just like, okay, Gunter and Janus go fight dragons. Yeah.

And that's kind of what we're up to. And, yeah, it's, it is the weirdest. regular TV show. My wife turned to me. We watched the second episode this evening together. With the buzzers in the back of the neck. Yeah, watched the first episode with my daughter, second episode with my wife. My wife turned to me and she said, so what was that? Excellent. Great. She said those are from those, were they on the Big Bang theory? We were. Yeah, peripheral, you know, sort of on the periphery, but we were, yeah. Yeah, it's, It's, it's real funny, by the way.

I'm glad to hear it. In order and I, before you came, we're talking about how great it is that it's funny. Sometimes we talk about how much what our guest is coming into plug sucks. That must happen. In your position, I don't see how you would not. No, we weren't genuinely talking about how funny it is. I think it has three things that I think TV viewers might be missing. The big three, number one.

The big thing. Funny comedy performers being funny. Like trained comedy people. Like, like, you know, sitcom people. You know, Brian Possein's on this thing. Lauren Lappas is on this thing. Brian Possein has been killing it on sitcoms for 30 years. And I think this is the show that best understands what to give Brian Possein to say that will be funnier coming from Brian Possein than it could be from anyone ever.

With all apologies to just shoot me, which also did a good job using Brian Pocene. Of course. He's great as an office weirdo, but if you dimensionalize him a little bit, there's a lot there. There is a lot there. And he's been a delight. I've known him for years. If you just get to watch him run. Just watching Brian Boussain run is great.

It's a good time. That's something we haven't gotten to see before. No, none of us ran on the old show. There was no running on the old show. Not a lot of room to run. Not a lot of room to run. Actually, you know what? I beg your pardon.

There was one pre-shoot we did where Sheldon and I have to attempt to play basketball. but that was the most running I did in 12 seasons. And laugh all you want. It's the truth. And I, on this show, on the new show, I have run more, I got all my cardio in on the first two episodes. It was insane. Yeah. It's very kind of action-packed considering it's, you know, based on a guy who usually

writes, you know, sitcoms that are built around a couch. Sure. Yeah. Alison Janney's sitcom, Mom. Yeah, for example. Great couch. Oh, the couch on that show. Okay, so this show has actually funny people being funny.

I appreciate that very much. Lauren Lapkis is on the show. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It has great, classic, sturdy sitcom set-up punchline jokes. It has jokes. Jokes. Every other line is a joke in this thing.

Yeah. Pretty heavy. And three, specific references to Pasadena. Specific references to the geography of Pasadena. of Pasadena and the surrounding area. Thank you for appreciating that, yeah. Surrounding areas is the part that I think a lot of people have been missing. Because I think we've heard Pasadena jokes on a lot of networks that comes before.

Kind of a funny sounding word in some ways. It is. Especially because we're all, it's probably Pasadena, Pasadena. We're probably pronouncing it in a very, we're anglicizing the shit out. It's Catalonia and it's Pa-Fiina. Yeah, right? So given that it's probably, it's just a great sounding word anyway. what we haven't heard before are Monrovia jokes.

I was going to say Monrovia moment was great. Can I jump in with La Cagnata Flint Ridge? Yeah, yeah. No, wait, now granted. Jordan and I have been doing La Cenaiazza Flint Ridge material for some time now. This is not on a big streamer. We're not on a big stream. We've had offers, but we've turned it down.

We're going pretty mainstream with that. There's an entire shout-out to the San Gabriel Valley writ large in our first episode. Yeah, it's, it's fun. There's a couple of moments that are very L.A. specific, L.A. County specific that I am delighted by because, you know, the show moves quickly enough that, you know, they're, they happen and they're gone. But there's a Thomas Guide joke in our first episode where they're back to using the Thomas Guide because the apocalypse has happened and nobody has GPS. And if you lived in L.A. 20 plus years ago, the Thomas Guide was how we got around. It's how we, it was this enormous, like, phone book that had maps.

I had, like, 18 months of Thomas Guide when I moved to Los Angeles. Jordan, you had a Thomas Guide life when you were a production assistant. My first job when I moved to L.A. is I was a PA, and you had to, like, say in your interview, I own a Thomas Guide. You don't have to buy me one. And I remember the first time the Thomas Guide started coming with a CD-ROM. Oh, my God, that's right. That was them going, like, the Thomas Guide has entered the future.

Oh, my God. Yeah, and you had certain pages. It was missed, but. There were certain pages that were basically torn out because they were this one particular casting office out on the west side or whatever. It's a very L.A. thing. And they apparently used to give them as rap gifts back in the day. Like it was a really popular rap gift. You'd get a Thomas Guide with your show's logo on the front.

Like if you had a Frazier Thomas Guide? I mean, I bet you could find those on eBay and I would price them. Would I buy them? I might price them. Christian, can we go on eBay right now and find me a good Herman's Head, Thomas Guide? Jordan, can I mention something regarding us being on streamers? Remind me after the show. I'll show you the offer we got from Acorn.

Okay. It's probably my pitch perfect British accent that got us that offer. Hello, it's me. I like to be on A-Corn. I'm an unusual detective, I am. I have a little work. I'm also a veterinarian. And Episcopal minister.

We've all got a little quirk we do. Well, I'm off to buy some men. Antiques, aren't I? Yes. I'm, by the way, I, I want you guys to have six seasons of this for a total of 12 episodes. Yes. And I, and one, running British TV show ever.

And one Christmas special, exactly. I, I want the absolute best for this, uh, this veterinary detective, uh, priest's show that and we for your little show. And we for your little show. Thank you. John, what's the, like, doing the show? Mm. Because, yes.

same character, but very different context. What's the most like sci-fi action star thing you've gotten to do filming this? The one that just streamed this past week, I had my first mocap scene. I did a full mocap. The ball suit and everything? The ball suit, the camera in front of me and everything. You might be the first guy I have ever met who wore the ball suit. What a thrill for me.

I got to wear the ball suit. I bet you know people who've done mocap for video games. If I know you, I bet you might. I bet you, yeah. He's calling you a nerd. I'm calling you a fucking nerd. Come closer, I'll break your glasses. But I got to do some wirework.

Okay. I got to do some wirework where I am plunged 23 feet through this void, which was really intense. Because you're surrounded, you know, it's universal. You're not on some weird little, like, hinky indie movie. You're on like a big, you know, big set, big soundstage. Everyone's a consummate professional. You know academically that you're totally safe. You got a master's degree in that.

But you, when you start falling and they want you to look like you're really free falling, it's really hard not to just take account of your life and just really taste your mortality a little bit. And there was a few moments where I was being plummeted on various things. being plummeted towards the ground. The ground was just rushing up towards me where I was like, they are going to dedicate this episode to me. That'll be it.

This was a good run. And what a way to go, huh? Doing what I love? So yeah, there's been all sorts of, there's been green screen work. Plummeting. Yeah. There's been some green screen work.

I was very close to some actual pyro. It's been, honestly, every week has had some sort of like bit of badassery that like I never thought I was going to get to do in my career. Right. The thing that I noticed in the second episode that I watched while I was eating supper, which as you mentioned involved the premise that everyone lives,

each episode of the show, you go to a new universe, a new parallel universe with its own sci-fi rules and sort of like a Star Trek planet, but it's a parallel universe. Yep. And one of these is there's like a little thing at the base of the neck, at the, at the base of the brain, a little green light. And if you are disagreeable or angry, you get electrocuted or zapped. Yes.

And your character gets zapped over the course of one episode of television, I'm going to say 14 times. It's around 10. Uh-huh. And that's, by the way, that's not counting all the takes that weren't used, obviously. but in terms of the story, I get zapped about 10 times. And yeah, it was a lot of falling to falling on the mat that was just off screen. It was a very, again, it's a very physical job. What I was going to ask you is, do they go down to the Elysian theater, find a John Ross Bowie-sized contemporary clown,

and then do all the behind the head shots with the clown? I will say this. if it's a long shot and you see me falling on a hard surface, that is my stuntman, Chris Patton. He's got a stunt man, Jordan, which is crazy. But all the close-up stuff, that's me at my most clownish. Wow. That is all the, all the, a lot of that stuff is,

is John just clowning it up pretty hardcore. I mean, that's the dream. I got a shout out, though, because Chris Patton jumps from car to car in Fury Road. He's an Australian guy. Whoa. And he does some of that in that big, chase at the beginning. And I found the scene and I've got it on my

career. And he has, yes, he has really, really up to his game, having gone from one of the finest pieces of cinema of the 21st century to being my stunt man. Chris, if you're watching, I love you. But yeah, it was... We're big in the stunt man community, so probably is.

He's probably watching, right? But no, the close-up shocking, that is, that is me at my most clownish. And I worked with the stunt coordinated to figure out like, okay, what does it look like when you get electrocuted? What do I look like when I'm being electrocuted? How will my electrocutions look different from the other cast members?

We should have distinguished ourselves. There was process. Jesse, there was process. You have to have an actor's secret when you're getting electricuted. Exactly. What's your secret that not everybody knows? Ow. This hurts.

Yeah, this is in my spine. The like promo stuff for this show has been rad. You guys are on like all these DC comics, like drawn by Jim. fucking crazy. Wild. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, so they did a one-off for basically a comic version of our first episode that they gave away at ComicCon. And signed copies are now going.

San Diego Comic-Con? That's the one, yeah. Raleigh, Comic-Con. We're all the big announcements. Start small. Most the announcements happening at Durham Comic-Con. Oh, yeah. Listen, I can't get into these Mid-Atlantic turf wars.

But then, and we thought. Guys, I got to go to Rojobith Comic-Con. A lot of research scientists are going to come for you? If it's Monday, it must be Roanoke. So that was cool enough. Like, Jim Lee did the cover for this incredible issue. We're looking at it on screen. No, this is a different one.

These are the ones for some DC variants that are coming at the end of August. So that's a bunch of the Justice League looking at us at the Comic-Con panel. Is that not the most meta-goddam thing? Rules. Isn't that crazy? There's one where I'm having Chinese food with Batman. Do you get all of these, or are you having to, like, track these down on eBay? Oh, these I'm going to have to go by.

There's the one where I'm sharing Chinese food with Batman and we look annoyed with each other. Yeah. Because I don't like rich people. Class war. But, yeah. So you know Batman's secret identity? Our friend, NATO Green, has a new special out called The Darkest Hour. And he divides all of America into the left wing of the left wing and so on.

so forth. He puts Batman in the right wing of the right wing. Oh, 100%. He's a millionaire vigilante. Where the else is you going to fall politically? Yeah, his joke is that he says he's a billionaire who punches the product of his own greed. Wow. Good Lord. That's socially, socially liberal, I think. Maybe so. It's basically conservative. So it doesn't have a problem with the gays. Sure. Doesn't have a big thing with the gays. He's okay with legal weed? Yeah. But yeah. So, it. It's really kind of exceeded all of my expectations.

This rollout has been insane. And it's all kind of like, it's sort of appropriate for the show's fan base. You know, it feels like, oh, this is something that will actually be enjoyed. So I have the Jim Lee cover. I have it signed by Jim Lee. Oh, cool. Which is pretty awesome. But I'm going to have to just, I think I'm going to have to just go get these at my local.

Did Jim Lee give you any, like, guns on your calves or anything? Any miscellaneous straps? Again, you see I'm in I'm in lawn pants all the time. You know, which is shame because my calves are not embarrassing. They're not bad. I mean, from here I can see they look, they look nice. You got some definition on it.

There's a little bit of definition there. Now, we've, shorts talk has been something we've done a lot of on the show recently. Sure. Why no shorts, John? And you have the calves. For what our friend Jimmy Parto would call the at-home listener, it was 95 degrees

today here in Los Angeles. And even in this studio at nighttime, it's probably 80. It's a really good question. Do I regret not wearing shorts? Absolutely. I should have. I absolutely should have put on shorts. But you know what? I always get a little self-conscious about how I'm going to dress in front of Jesse. I'm not going to lie to you. I always get just ever so slightly self-conscious. You don't want to get red. You don't want to get red on the podcast. I would hate to get red on the podcast. Even though he was dressed. right now like he's going to sell me skunkweed, I still feel like I should up my sartorial game. Do you not want to hack the sack? I don't want to hack the sack. And I have a class in

three minutes, so I can't join your drum circle. Got it. I was, did you see this picture of John Ross Bowery that, or these pictures of John Ross Bower that he posted on his social media the other day that were him as a like 15 year old in T-shirts for various still cool bands? No. I posted this on Friday. It is on my Instagram. A friend from camp sent me three photos, only one of which I had ever seen, which is mind-blowing, right? Because we're so well, our kids are so well documented now. You know, you think of like how, like our kids have seen every picture that exists of themselves. But for us, there's still an area of mystery, you know, because these were pictures that were taken at camp, then taken home and then developed by whoever

took them. Right. And that's it. The one picture that you had seen was the one of the service member and the woman kissing on VJ Day. That was, and I'm in the background. I'm right behind that guy. Yeah. But it is a, it's a doozy of a photo. It actually is over three different years. I'm 14, 15, and 16 in those photos. And the shirts are in order. Ramones cure bad brains. Cool. I mean, you got to hand it to this guy. I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty, it's pretty badass and um you also i'm going to say in the pictures appear to have an adult head on a child's body you're not the first person to point that out yes i john all of i have those pictures but it's all cherry popin daddy's all stuff that's oh wow christian is wearing a t-shirt that he bought it hot topic

today today at city walk it says nine inch nails yes so it does have you've seen them live i trust Yes, sir. Okay. I do try to have, although I will say this, when I, the picture of me with the Ramon's shirt, I hadn't seen the Ramones live yet. At 14, you hadn't yet seen the Ramones live? I had not yet seen the Ramones. I was a fan.

You'd seen Didy Ramon's rap act. I hate to say that. At 14, that's before D.D. King, I'll have you know. Can we just stop everything for a moment and talk about the fact that like all over radio and TV for like six months, there was a band called Cherry Pop and Daddies. Yeah. Can we like just pause? And their lighthearted hit song

Was a tribute to a famous race war Yeah, that was their big banger of Was about the actual zoot suit riots Which Google them Clear Channel Radio approved both those things All of every just said fine You know what, go ahead But have you guys seen them live?

Have you guys seen them live? No, but you have Jordan, go ahead Oh, I mean, it's a totally different experience Okay, all right Cherry popping Daddy's They just seem like Cool chill guys to me

Run a comb through your cold black hair Yes There was like a summer of the daddy bands What were the other daddy bands? Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, that's right Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, that's right Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Maybe it was just the two

Maybe was there another daddy band Daddy Yankee Daddy Yankee of course When the swing Revival morphed into regatone You can understand understand how it would do that. Sure.

Maybe it was two prominent daddy bands. We had a smaller swing revival in New York where I was living at the time. And none of those bands broke national. And it was also a big overlap with the rockabilly scene. Yes. But it wasn't as big in New York as it was out here in L.A. And like you couldn't have really made swingers in New York. That's such an L.A. time capsule.

But I remember seeing a band called The Blues Jumpers that did a pretty credible mini the moocher as a closer. Okay. And I was like, this is fun. I used to go to a, when I was in college, went to a lot of rap concerts. And in Santa Cruz, you would get real solid headliners for the size of venue and town that it was. Because it was part way, it was far enough from San Francisco that you're not breaking

your contract with your San Francisco promoter to do a show there. And north enough of L.A. that same. Exactly. So it's sort of halfway in between. And it's, you know, and killer college town too. Exactly. And also, because I went to Ithaca and I think we've talked about the comparisons between those two towns.

Ithaca is Santa Cruz with shitty weather. It is. But it's a very similar vibe. It's a very, like the college is the town's economy on a big friend. And also there's Cornell across town. So we would get fairly enormous bands as well come through and play like the local bar. Yeah. So it would be like, well, I mean, the one genuinely enormous band that would play,

who I can't say I ever did see is smash mouth. But that was because they are from San Jose. Okay. So it was just over the hill. Right. But, you know, it would be, but I saw black eyed peas and common and Tbilip Kuali and the roots and so on and so. You're in college, like late 90s early aughts? Early aughts, yeah.

Early outs, okay. Yeah, the end of the 90s or, yeah, 99 is when we, when I matriculated. And, but the thing is, terrible word, is like, these bands, the bands on quantum projects, your blackolicious and liturxes and stuff, they would tour together. So they would, you know, some combination of them would be, would be opening and some combination of them would be headlining. I would just switch around at different times. Got it.

But most of these acts were not touring. with openers. So you would just get an act that had been booked in Santa Cruz. Oh, no. And mostly it was a band called the B-side players who I think still exist and are just like a band that plays war songs. Oh, right. And like perfectly competent, et cetera.

But then once in a while, you would see like there was a band called, a hip-hop group called Blood of Abraham, who had been A&R'd slash discovered by, I'm going to say easy E, but their hook was that they were like paranoid, apocalyptic Jews, like big beards, like House of David,

like faux outfits. And I remember their album was called I Dollar Tree, E-Y-E, because, and it was an Illuminati eye. I should hope so. In a cell phone tower disguised as a tree. Fuck, yes, it was.

Oh, you're just checking a bunch of of fun boxes there. But there was... What's interesting about that is that guys like that usually are the first to blame the Jews. When you get into the guys who are, you know, going after the cell phones and, and they're usually the first people who are like, you know, well, the Jews made COVID. And like, that's interesting that they were actually Jewish. I find that oddly soothing.

I'll say it. Yeah. And then there was, I did see a swing rapper. and fuck if I can remember what a Christian, do some research. Find this swing rapper. Did he have a big brass section? He had a DJ. I mean, like, but the, all the, all the tracks were samples of like, you know, Pennsylvania 6,000 or whatever.

Right. Take the A train. And then he wrapped over. Somebody's finally wrapping over pennies from heaven. Yeah, he was a white guy. Okay. And he wore the outfit, the swing outfit. Sure.

And he wrapped on top of the big loops. I mean, like big loops of famous big band songs. Okay. Wow. I think swing was a pivot for a lot of people. I don't know that, like, one of the big L.A. swing bands when it was happening was Royal Crown Review. Yeah. That was a youth brigade.

That was like the guys from Youth Brigade, which just like. That was the Stern brothers? Yes. No kidding. Both Stern brothers are in that band. I think Daniel and Howard? Stop it. Daniel and Howard, fuck off.

Anyway. So, yeah, and I think that a lot of ska bands were like, uh-oh. Somebody else has a horn section. Oh, shit. Yeah. It really was like the last gasp, like the late 90s were the last gasp of eclecticism on top 40 radio. You know what I mean? Like, because the 80s were known for.

The 80s, you know, as flawed as they were, top 40 radio at the time was like, here's men at work, here's quiet riot, here's jam on it by nucleus. And that was literally like the morning drive. And it was amazing. It was so goddamn, you know, musical youth had a hit. Madness had a hit. By the time we were in college in the early 2000s, it was only nucleus, jam on it by nucleus. It was just always jam on it by nucleus. You wish.

Once in a while, at holidays, they were. would play Haunted House of Rock by Houdini. Okay. But no, but you know what I mean? Like there was a sense of like in the late 90s you had scroll nut zippers had a hit, which was really, you know, and they're not quite swing, but they're using similar recording devices, you know, part of it, is part of it, let me ask you this, is part of it that in the post-grunge era. Yeah.

So like after, after the, you know, the pearl jam has crested, but, you know, as, uh, I guess Green Day is emerging and stuff, you know. Is it possible that there was like a room had been opened up for shit that was soft, but they had not figured out what that could be. White people being Pussies was available. Right. But they hadn't quite figured out how to define that all the way down to the Dave Matthews' and Jack Johnson's.

Okay, so I think you're really close. I think, and I could absolutely talk about this for hours, because it is fascinating, like, what breaks when, in terms of music, I think it's even more cynical than that. I think there's a sense of when Nirvana broke and they were on, you know, that, that, that album, Nevermind is a co-release with subpop and DGC. Like David Geffen and Jonathan Pohnman had to like have a phone call for that, that album to come out. And I think there was a sense kind of like Hollywood in the early 70s of like, fuck it.

I don't know what works anymore, try anything. and that's how you ended up with, you know, helmet releasing records around the same time as the squirrel nut zippers and, and both of them getting a little bit of MTV play. I think there was a real, let's just throw everything at the wall and see what sticks kind of thing. Matt Penfield can talk about it all. You know, really, that is kind of the case, you know, and it is, it was fascinating. It was a brief, shiny moment, and then, you know, I don't know what to, I guess you blame downloads after that. After downloads, you could absolutely track what people were listening to more carefully. I feel like a Sugar Ray and a third eye blind just kind of like defined the aesthetic of soft pop rock.

Yeah. And then you couldn't make weird. And smash mouth is in there too. Certainly. Matchbox 20 will go in there as well. But there's still a little more variety in the late 90s because you've got no doubts doing their thing. And again, the Ben Folds breaks around that time. Ben Folds brick.

That's what, 97, 98 somewhere in there. I don't know. It was a very, it was a very eclectic feeding ground, I think. If you were an indie artist, you had a chance to break through and do something else at that time. It's kind of fascinating. What kind of t-shirt were you wearing when you were 14? I told you cherry pop and daddies. I have no doubt.

Yeah. Did you have a cherry pop and daddy's t-shirt, literally? No, did I? I had to have. Yeah, I think if you got my three John Ross Bowie photos, where you have the Cure, Ramones, and. Bad brains. and bad brains. Mine probably are Cherry Popp and Daddy's real big fish in the aquabats.

Okay. You know, and listen. Sounds like a good time to me. Yeah, that's a great bill. You like a horn section. Thank you. You like a horn section. You guys are being very sweet.

You guys are being very sweet. I love a horn section. Sure. You all love a horn section. But, yes. What was the first hip-hop show you ever saw? Gosh, I don't know. I, the first show I ever saw was Aerosmith.

And I didn't go to that because I liked Aerosmith. I went to it because my friend Gabe loved Aerosmith, and he had two tickets for kids and one for his dad. Okay. So he invited me and I went. And I did not really understand it. Okay. It really, Aerosmith, when I was 13,

hit real different without babes on MTV. They had really figured out that to make it work, they should, instead of showing their old ghoul bodies. Right. They should show their sexy children. Yeah, Aerosmith was kind of a confusing thing. You're like, how old is this band when you're, when you're 12 or 13? You're like, how long have these guys been around?

Anyway, because they were so famous in the 90s. They looked like five pieces of beef jerky wearing scarves. Sure. Even then. Yeah. And they had had that weird hip-hop inspired revival. Oh, yeah. You know, where both bands broke a little while,

but Aerosmith was able to sustain the revival more than Run DMC. I definitely, I saw, I saw Run DMC when I was in high school. I saw a bill that was Run DMC, the Sugar Hill Gang, and Houdini. I saw Run DMC with EPMD opening up in college. So this is like 91, 92, and at Ithaca, but the show started very late because they actually went to Utica, which is a good two hours away from Ithaca. Oh, they went through a different cup.

But only a couple of letters away, so what are you going to do? Sure. Did they, like, come on stage and be like, sorry, guys. No, they did not. No, they just came on it and did a really good show. Let it be said, a really, really fun time. Was there a Utica-Ithaca rivalry? Is that one of those things like, oh, we hate that other one?

I mean, sort of. I didn't really, we were Division III football. I can't even name the, I don't even know if there's a Sunni in Utica. I don't know. There should not be Division III football, by the way. that is a bad thing to do for no benefit. Well, listen, you get a chance of getting a concussion and then coaching another Division III school eventually.

Yeah, that's a good point. That's kind of where you level off there. The thing that I remember most about that old school concert that I went to, because they were all old by the time. Sure. This was like, you know, 91, 92, that's the end of Run DMC being a mainstream force, but they're still a mainstream force. Right. I remember, you know, I knew the freaks come out at night.

Yeah. The freaks come out at night, as has been discussed on this program, one of my favorite songs when I was in preschool. One of the, it was that time after time and jump for your love by the Pointer Sisters, where my big three, when that I can remember. Time after time, Sidney Lopper? Yes. Okay.

From like six and under, those are the big three. Okay. So I knew who Houdini were and stuff. Right. But what I was not prepared for was the fucking title wave of pussy juice when they hit the stage. Oh, wow. Like women losing their fucking minds.

Wow. And needless to say, the sugar. And so delicately phrased, Jesse, let me say. Well, Sugar Hill Gang. So Sugar Hill Gang went on first. Okay. And even in 1978, that was just three guys that the lady who ran the label knew that worked at a pizzeria near her house.

Yeah. And so by the time it's the year 1998 or whenever it was that I saw this show, they're still the three guys who worked at the pizza place. Yeah. In fact, they still work at the pizza place. Right. They have returned to work at the pizza place. Understood. Yeah. And so that was, I mean, but you know, who's going to complain when somebody's doing rappers delay? No one. No one. It's going to be a great time. You know, hip hop to hip hop. They do the 12-inch mix. It lasts for 15 minutes. I'm in. then Houdini came on. They're wearing their leather.

They're wearing their leather hats. Uh-huh. And the place, it was an outdoor concert venue. It was at the, at the, uh, at the Greek in Berkeley. Okay. And it was like fucking tearing off their shirts. No shit. Screaming and crying.

And these women must have been, I mean, they seem very old to me, but maybe they were only 30 or 35. They might have only been like 35. I have terrible news for you. Those old women were probably only around 35. Yeah, yeah, I got it, yeah. But, like, truly Houdini went on. And, like, by that time, like, much more so than, like, run DMC were such a huge cultural force.

When RunDMC went on, they were a big deal because they were still a big deal. You know what I mean? Yeah. They still were in, like, TV commercials and, like, you know, whatever. And they were also never coasting on sex appeal. Exactly. Yeah, with all due respect, they're adorable, but they were never coasting on sex appeal, those guys.

Right. And so, like, I understood what run DMC meant in a way that I didn't with Houdini. And Houdini fucking came out in there. I mean, Christian is showing his pictures of them in red leather shirts. And it was, like, the only horniness I've ever experienced that matched it probably was DeAngelo on the Voodoo Tour. Oh, that was supposed to be a thing. And I want to be clear, it was greater horniness than when I saw Usher right before,

right as confessions came out when he was about to become a like $12 million dollar seller, 12 million copy seller. Like that was very horny. Yeah. Not as horny as when Houdini. It's funny. I often give L.L. the bulk of the credit for bringing sexy to hip hop because he took his shirt off on that second record

when he's promoting bigger and deffer. record that I genuinely adore. And ladies love him. Ladies love him. It's right there. And I always think of him as like the guy who is like, oh, you know, hip hop doesn't have a sex symbol yet, allow me to take off my shirt and correct that. But I don't give Houdini who predate L.O. a little bit year, maybe, year or two.

Yeah, that seems right. I don't give them the credit I think they deserve. Are they friends? How many of us do have them? Yeah. That's them, right? Yeah. Yeah.

And the freaks come out at night. No, I knew that, obviously, but I wasn't sure about friends. how many of us have them. Now, I would love to keep chatting. I am worried that we will cause a tidal wave of pussy juice. Wait, no, Jordan, before we go to the break, what's the horniest concert you've ever been to? Well, okay, horniest concerts.

We had a, there was an outdoor venue around where I grew up in Orange County that we learned how to sneak into. Oh, nice. It was the, I think it was the Irvine Meadows Amphitheater. Oh, yeah. Then it was the Verizon Amateur. Yeah, it's still there, isn't it? But we would, yeah, we would, you know, we would go in the parking lot when no one was there, like the morning before the concert.

We would hike up to where the fence was, and we would cut a hole in the fence if there wasn't one already. They would find the holes and fix them. Right. But we would, and then we would just go to see whatever, because, you know, we were teenagers and it was free. Fantastic. We snuck into Barry Manilow, thought that was real funny, a real funny thing to do. but yeah, when he played Copacabana, it like the shrieks,

the, yeah, the shrieks that came up were, I still remember them. Yeah, and that was, and I think to me, I'm like,

oh, these old women are horny, but yeah, they were probably like, they were maybe like 45, 50. Yeah, at that point, for Barry.

For Barry, they might have been actually kind of old. But I mean, you were like in 19, so you got some of that, right? Oh,

yeah. You closed some of them. that. No, guys, I did not. I tried. Unless you're hard. Okay, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to hear about John Ross Bowie's horniest concert. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jessica. Hello, I'm John Luke Roberts, and I host Soundheap, and I'm here with Max Fun, member of the month, Ryan Adams. Thank you so much, Ryan, for being a listener and supporter of

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It's Jordan Jesse Go. I am Jesse Thorne America's Radio sweetheart. Jordan Morris, boy detective. John Ross Bowie, eager participant. John, what is the horniest concert you've ever been to? I had the entire break to think about it, and it's tough. I saw Morrissey at the Hollywood Bowl a few years back pre-pandemic. He did not cancel.

He finished the evening. A reasonable question, Jordan. but I I he he didn't have to cancel no one met his gaze he um but he opened his shirt and he didn't smell a hamburger before he went in so he was fine yeah um uh when he took off his shirt things went uh pretty pretty ape shit there i went to see a a cover band where the lead singer is known as the mexican morsee is that sweet and tender hooligans yeah yeah tom lennon is in Tom Lennon plays guitar, yeah. Tom Lennon invested in a Johnny Marr guitar.

Really? In like a Johnny Marr signature. I can't remember what kind. It's like a Gibson, I think. But he invested in like the kind of guitar Johnny Mar plays. It's a great investment. Beanie Baby's level investment. And yeah, that was a wild night.

The horniness at that was he like had just a bouquet of roses and was hurling them at women overhand fastball style. I got to see those guys. I bet that's a fun evening. Yeah. Joe Scalante from the Vandals. Yeah. I mean, you got to figure what better setup could there be for a cover band than to be covering music that remains absolutely essential to people's lives and identities to be able to reflect their identities better than the guy who sang the songs originally.

Yeah. And to have the guy who sang the songs originally become just problematic enough that you wouldn't. wouldn't want to support him, but not so problematic that you couldn't go see a cover band singing his songs. It's a, it is a really impressive needle two thread, and they have done so. I salute them. I got to go check those guys out. Yeah, because those songs are great.

I love semester material, man. Queen is Dead is a perfect fucking album. You'd be shocked to learn there's a 55-year-old white guy who feels that way, but I really am incredibly fond of that record. So yeah, the Morrissey show was pretty horny. I saw L.L. one time. That got pretty horny because he's still in great shape. He looks terrific.

He's taken care of himself. God bless him. Was this recent? Pretty pre-pandemic, but like eight, nine years ago. Does he play the theme song from Deep Blue Sea? Deepest bluest? No. My hat is like a shark fan.

He doesn't. It's a drag. My hat is like a shark's fin is a line from I'm bad. I know he repurposed it later, but its original appearance is on, is on the single I'm bad from the bigger and deffer record. I did not know that. Yeah, yeah. Deep Blue C, which as we all know is actually called the Smart Shark movie. Right. Deep Blue C is a Terrence Radigan play. The Smart Shark movie is what we're talking about with the greatest jump scare death in the history of cinema. I was talking about the Terrence Radigan play. Is his song Deep Blue C not from the play? No, I'm sorry. I don't need to

It's not about it's not actually about post-war malaise in Britain. No. You know how in the 90s, these plays would have a rap song about the plot over the credits of the play. Particularly British plays. Particularly British plays. Yes. So that was pretty horny. And then for me, you know, when I saw the go-goes, my first concert was the go-goes in 1984. And I was, that was pretty horny for me.

I mean, good Lord. The go-go's all like hovering around 26 and I'm a 14-year-old boy entering puberty like a freight train. That was Jane Weidland? Come on. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, a couple of years separate us, but she, I think she hit Jesse and I pretty hard as Joan of Arc and Bill and Ted. Of course. Yeah.

Of course. Maybe the foxiest anyone's ever been on camera. I almost had a meltdown not that long ago from my own horniness at a concert when I went to see Erica Badu. Oh, yeah? I saw Erica Badu. I'm like, uh-oh, I'm crazy horny for Erica Badu. Is this what Middle Ages?

I guess so. Yeah. Well, we could do worse. We all should be horny for a doula. We absolutely should. Is she a doula? She's a dula, yeah. That's fantastic.

Yeah, a lot of great things. She sells T-shirts that say, I shoved a crystal at my snatch at the Erica Badu concert, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt. Which size did you buy? I know, right? Oh, okay. I have, in the break, I have identified the swing rapper. Oh, great.

amazing, who I saw live in concert in Santa Cruz, California. And not only did he put out an entire LP on a major label, he had a song on the soundtrack of the movie Go. Wow. Oh, that's a fun soundtrack, though. It is. Yeah. You got new from No Doubt on there.

John August wrote that movie. John August wrote that movie. Coming up, booked on the show. Will, I hope it happened. We'll have to ask him if he met. Jimmy Luxury. Jimmy Luxury. Oh, my gosh.

Jimmy Luxury. the Tommy Rome Orchestra. In the late 90s, A&R guys were just throwing money at the fucking wall, man. Yeah. And on a major, you say. On a major. That is incredible. And speaking of throwing.

Here's his Sony Records EPK on YouTube. Oh, my God. Does his logo have dice in it? Yes, it does. If you were wondering whether his logo had dice in it. Edge of my seat. Please tell me he's got a wide brim fedore in his phone. Oh, good Lord, he does.

Christian, are you going to play the song for us? Are you going to play his song for us? I'll stay well directed and connected, make it creating, developing and center methods. I'm making records. I mean, it is luxurious. It is luxurious. I mean, I'm going to say this about Jimmy Luxury. Yeah.

When I saw Jimmy Luxury in concert, as with when I saw Blood of Abraham in concert. Yes. In both cases, I was genuinely impressed at how well they carried off the horrible idea that was their act. You know, sometimes I like a bad idea perfectly executed. I really, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, snakes on a plane. Snakes on a plane. Uh, that Mac Sabbath band, like still tours, the McDonald's Black Sabbath cover band. Oh, that's fine.

Oh, that's fun. Seemed to have thought of the name first and are still going with it. Dred Zeppelin had a really good run there. Dred Zeppelin did all, Dred Zeppelin did all reggae versions of Zeppelin songs. Oh, boy. And they were huge, they overlapped on the jam band circuit a lot. So they came to.

You don't say. I know, yeah. You don't say. That sounds like, honestly, I'll buy that for a dollar. Yeah. Not a bad idea. You know, you already got Dyer Maker anyway, sort of ramping you up as is. Yeah, there they are.

And oh, and I forgot to mention the lead singer trust is late period Elvis. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, you sure did. So they would come through Ithaca. all the time. Again, you'll be shocked to learn. But yeah, that was a... This is like the confluence of my father-in-law's musical instruments. Yeah, there was a certain kind of dad who really just leans into something like that, wants to like, one-stop shopping for like Marley legend and houses of the holy. My father-in-law likes heavy sounds. There you go. He likes heavy sounds. Dred Zeppelin was your move. Yeah.

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Hello, Jordan, Jesse, and guest. I'm going to go with David Boree. This is Chad from Providence, Rhode Island, calling in for your long-running segment. Some big-ass rodents I met today. I'm visiting some friends in Taiwan, and we went to an amazing petting zoo

where I got to meet and feed some little baby capy barras. And there were also some maras in there and some scary geese. So I'm floating on cloud nine. Love the show. I'm just out here

iving my ife. Yeah, just giving his ife. Is a goose too dangerous to have in a petting zoo? I'm scared of them. Seems like a bad animal to have in a petting zoo. Safer than an ostrich?

Did he say ostrich? No, I'm just saying it would be safer than an ostrich having a petting zoo. Oh, okay, yeah. So, I mean, it's at least, I sort of reframed it. At least it's not an ostrich. No, you're right. I think a goose cannot kick you to death. Exactly.

I've never heard of a silly ostrich. Tush. That's true. Oh, point counterpoint. This is the Baclachlan group. Holy shit. Can I ask a question? Hi, I'm David Brooks from the Atlantic.

Here's my question for you guys. You've met my dog, Jr. Yes. Jordan and I... Jordan likes to occasionally join for a little dog walk, which is very nice. Very nice, yeah. But you haven't met my dog, Jr., but... As someone with no dog, it's nice to interact with a dog.

I have two dog. This is my dog. Oh, it's a great dog. I like your dog. My dog is a half golden retriever, half many other things. Right. Sort of a scruffy golden retriever. Here's my question.

Sometimes I will take him to Lincoln Park here in Los Angeles, the horniest concert I've ever been to, of course. No, no, no, nope, nope, don't believe it. We'll go to Lincoln Park here in Los Angeles, which is a nice park with a big lake in Lincoln Heights. And the lake attracts waterfowl, particularly geese. Lots of interesting, lots of different weird types of ducks sometimes. Yeah.

But a big bunches of geese. I mean, like, I'm talking about there'll be 50 or 60 geese out there at Lincoln Park in the morning. Should I be worried that my dog might catch one of the geese? Because he does go after these geese. Do you let Junior off leash? Yeah. I mean, don't tell anybody on Reddit. No, I wouldn't dream of it.

I mean, it's, here's the thing about geese. They can fly. Right. I've not met junior. But sometimes it seems like they're waiting too long. to start flying. These are soft L.A. geese, you know? They're getting smoothies at the air one.

They don't read. I'm doing hack comedy about L.A. They do, ironically, they do goat yoga. Right. They're just doing it for Instagram though, you know. Yeah. I think you're probably okay. I am curious, aside from the sheer horror of the moment, right.

To whom would you have to answer? should Junior take a goose as a prize. Well, the goose's children will want revenge at some point. Well, given, yes. And I imagine the entire goose dojo will seek vengeance. I'd be concerned about the entire avian community. Yeah. I don't know.

I mean, sparrows hold prudges. Yeah. John, I didn't know you had two dog. I have two dog. I have a, well, here's what happened. We got a rescue years and years and years ago. And, wait, hold on. who rescued him?

That's a good question. We rescued him. He's far better off than we are now. He was in a cage before. Yeah, don't be cute. He was found running around Downey with a broken tail. I'm pretty sure he's at least tried meth. His teeth are all jacked up.

We rescued Sonny. Don't get it twisted. But Sonny's great. Sunny's a terrier mix. And about five years ago, it really kind of, we was the height of the pandemic. It really kind of felt like Sunny was on his last legs.

My wife really wanted a pug, so we went and got a pug just so we would have some overlap. Sunny hasn't gone anywhere. Sunny's got cataracts. Oh, we got a pug on screen. Is this the pug, John? That's Mabel, yeah. That is Mabel, my dog's also named Mabel. Yeah. My other dog's named Mabel. No kidding. We got to call Christian Shaw. That's, um, the kids named her. It's Kristen Shaw's character on Gravity Falls. That's how my dog also became to be named Mabel. We got to, we got to call Kristen Shaw. That's amazing. Um, um, Yeah, we were like name, it was the only name they could agree on was their favorite show, which if you, this is, listen, you're not missing anything by not having kids, you're fine.

But Gravity Falls is a great fucking show. And it would easily fall off your radar if you don't have children. But it's one of those shows where you're walking behind the couch and you hear something, and you're like, wait, that was actually legitimately funny. What the fuck is happening here? And it's this great like X-Files primer for kids.

It's only two seasons. Alex Fersh is the creator. Terrific show. I've watched a couple like that in Adventure Time. I do, you know, as a kids animation professional, I kind of like, hey, let's, I've watched a Phineas and Ferb or two. Phineas and Ferb is really good. Yeah, it is amazing, like how.

I remark often on this show how, like, kids animation is so good now. It really is striking. It looks like cool alternative comics, actually funny people write it wild. But it doesn't talk down to the kids. The kids enjoy it. If you compare it to our, like, toy commercials that we had. growing up. Oh, God.

So much better. Oh, my God. Or compared to, you know, Thundercats, as you cited earlier, some of the crap that was on TV. Because it was either like the new garbage or the great old Looney Tunes, but we had nothing contemporary when I was growing up. And these kids are spoiled rotten with really smartly written cartoons you were about to say. Well, my daughter, Scarlett, who is now 12, when she got obsessed with Gravity Falls

when she was 10, maybe, let's say. Okay. And she has seen every episode of Gravity Falls. 11 times. I'm sure. I'm sure. She's watched the full run of Gravity Falls 11 times.

Keep a track too, huh? But it's joke heavy and you do, you know, it's like coming back to a 30 rock, and be like, oh, I forgot that bit. That's a great bit.

Oh, I forgot about that. You know, when it has a similar pace to it. But yes, we got Mabel because we thought like, oh, I think Sunny's circling the drain.

Sunny is still with us. We just walked Sunday this morning. Blind is a bat. Way to go, Sunny. Just mostly cataracts at this point. How many years?

He interacts at his tail. How many years has he? You know, again, he was a rescue, he said, with a certain amount of sanctimony. But he's probably like 14 or 15. And not like a, you know, a sharp looking 14 or 15. But he gets around fire. He was a terrier mixed with a broken tail to begin with. Yeah.

And but he gets up on the couch by himself. He's, he's still pretty agile. He's just blind and I think he's going a little deep too. And you can tell that he's agile because you fire tennis balls at him. Yeah, all the time. Yeah. Just at his toes so he can dance. How do he and Mabel get along?

Initially, terribly. And then it was like, uh-oh, the trophy bride has given him a new lease on life. And they're very protective of each other. It's actually, it was similar to the relationship my children have, an initial mistrust followed by a deep affection. At some point, my two former dogs, now late dogs, my like special love dog Coco was our was the older. We had another dog named Sissy, and Sissy was maybe three years younger than Coco or something like that.

And at some point, Coco got old. Sissy realized she was the boss now and just hounded Coco into the grave. Just after like fully like eight years of it being fine. Right. Like Sissy was like, I sense weakness. Oh my God. And just bullied Coco until the day she died. Oh, no.

And it was hilarious because, like, Cissy was like a, Coco was a Chihuahua mix, but like, Cissy was like 70, 30 with 70 being Chihuahua. Like she was very little in Chihuahee and just was like, oh, it's on now, bitch. Amazing. It was like, yeah, just absolutely drove Coco to death. It just occurs to me that when I did after midnight, there was a bit on the show where Maya Hawk had talked about how she was perfectly comfortable being called a Nepo baby. And everyone was like, oh, that's so refreshingly honest. What are your refreshingly honest takes? Uh-huh.

And mine, which went like not quite viral, but a little more viral than something like that usually goes, was my elderly rescue is taking forever to die. And that was like three years ago, maybe four on television. I said that. Yeah. And Sonny was curled up next to me this afternoon. Wild. Fine.

Breathing. Taking in air. Yeah. Rules. Yeah. No, he's a, he might be a Highlander. Some dogs live to be 20. So Christopher Lambert's going to show up at the door at some point.

And take his fucking head clean off. We got another call. You got another call in there? Hey, Jordan, Jesse. And death, I'm going to guess, Kristen Farnon. Close. Mrs. Sylvia, she heard her pronouns. I just want to say I just used the women's restroom alone without a buddy for the first time.

And I peed and nothing else of no what happens. Yeah, love you. Bye. Love you too, Sylvia. And, you know, we've been debating on this show for a few weeks now as to who the Piss Queen truly is. It's been a big question. We've been what, who is the, and I think we have our answer. We have our answer.

I mean, Sylvia. Sylvia has been crowned. Sylvia came in hot, guessing a guest who I think, if I am not mistaken, is one of the characters from all creatures great and small. Oh, yeah, I was going to say,

I did not know who the guest guest was. Yeah, Tristan I think is the... Which is actually a British show about a veterinarian. Yeah. See, it's all fucking. Life is a slow hair old, guys.

The beginning's the end. Christopher Lambert's going to cut off all our heads at some point. Yay, that's the only one. You know, I'm cisgender. Mm-hmm. And I actually just the other day used the men's restroom without a buddy successfully for the first time.

Oh. I usually need help holding my giant dick. Any excuse to tell that story. Yeah, well, you know. That's why he's got the placard on the car. Sure. Right. Dick too big to drive.

He's got a park close to my destination. Don't make me walk all the way across this parking lot with this massive unit. Right. Showed on board. No, if you like their ass. everybody at the show board. Why not? I mean, it's a show, right?

Yeah, you just say things on a podcast. So a lot of times, if anybody out there is a young person, you're thinking about becoming a podcaster. Right. We could probably help you give you some advice, because we're coming up on our 20th year podcast. Sure are, baby. Here on Jordan, Jessica goes.

So we've really learned a lot. So one example would be if it seems quiet, say something. Say something with words in the, language of your preference. Yeah. So it really, at the end of the day, quiet, people are going to worry if their phone or their car stereo, their home computer are broken. Right, right, right. And that's what you're trying to avoid. So say things, go for 75 minutes or so, waste somebody's time, like a famous person with a real job and showbiz. A guy who jibly drew.

Find a guy on Home Box Office. You and Shatterstar. Those are the only... I love that you're still calling a Home Box Office. I'm trying to bring that back as well. Yes, as well we should. As well we should. Because you guys in boxing, right?

That's what's on. That's pretty much it. Yeah, and then Smoking the Bandit. And Red Shoe Diary. Oh, God. After the kids go to sleep. Yes, indeed. Zalman King.

We tried to get on HBO. and they told us DreamOn. Wow. From the show Dream On. I got it. No, I got it. By the way, Dreamon, one of Bill Prady, the creator of Big Bang Theory's first credits. Really?

100%. He wrote on Dream On starring Brian Ben Ben. How about that? Yeah. That show was clips of old sitcoms tied together by a sitcom? Clips of old movies tied together by a sitcom. And it was part of his, like, fantasy was that he would go into, it was sort of like, it kind of, do you remember Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid? Yeah.

Okay. It was kind of that, but it didn't quite have that much of a cohesive vision necessarily. But yeah, it was Brian Ben Ben was a sports. No, he was a film, he was an old movie buff, and he would have these little moments where he would fantasize and he'd find himself interacting with old movie characters, I think. like was the gist of that. Yeah, and I have to go home and check my Blu-rays. I think we got a network TV version that cut out the nudity that was on H-B because I like watched it on Fox, I think, after the Simpsons or, you know, Simpsons,

two other shows and then Dream On. Right. But the legend was that if you had HBO, there was a nudity version of that. Almost once an episode. Yeah. Almost once an episode. I mean, and that's, you know, some of the stuff didn't make it to HBO Macs. Simpsons, whoops, Herman's head, and then Dream On.

Yeah, maybe rock. I remember it. Live. I remember that season, sure. There was a period where I saw the Chris Isaac show on Channel 44. Maybe after Saturday Night Live or something like that, they would show the Chris Isaac show. That's right. He had like a curb your enthusiasm type thing.

Yeah, he played a version of himself. Yeah, right? Oh, that's another horny concert. snuck into in high school. Oh, Chris Isaac? Yeah, when he played Lady and Red. Ooh, boy. Gosh, City. San Francisco legend. Isn't that Chris DeBerg, Lady and Red?

Oh, I don't know. Chris Isaac is Wicked Game. Chris DeBerg is Lady and Red. Maybe I, maybe it was wicked game. It's entirely possible Chris Isaac covered Lady and Red. Sure. And Chris Elliott is get a life. Chris Elliott is get a life. Yes.

That's right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan, Jessica. La La La La La La You know, we've been doing my brother and my brother me for 15 years. And maybe you stopped listening for a while, maybe you never listen. And you're probably assuming three white guys talking for 15 years. I know where this has ended up. But no.

No, you would be wrong. We're as shocked as you are that we have not fallen into some sort of horrific scandal or just turned into a big crypto thing. Yeah, you don't even really know how crypto. works. The only NFTs I'm into are naughty, funny things, which is what we talk about on my brother, my brother, and me. We serve it up every Monday for you if you're listening, and if not, we just leave it out back into it goes rotten. So check it out on maximum fun or wherever you get your podcast.

It's Jordan Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris, Boy, Detective. John Ross Bowie, just happy to be here, you know? You know what? We're happy you're here. It is we who are happy you are here, that you have come to see us from Homebox office. Yeah, I'm very glad to be here and not on, you know, Showtime or USA. It's great to be on Home Box Office. Mm-hmm.

You know what? I say, Christian, I'll write you the check for $200. Submit this for a cable ace. Okay. I'll figure it out. We're going to submit this one quick. We're just going to lose to Arlis again. We always lose to Arlis.

It feels like no matter what we do, we lose to Arlis. He's a juggernaut. He's a juggernaut. Yeah, the S's are dollar signs. They are. You think we haven't met Patrick Ewing? I mean, maybe you can let Zazlava or whoever know that a lot of people, when they subscribe to HBO Max, they really like a lot of the content. Stewart fails to save the universe.

People like that a lot. But they do want more HBO 1.0. We want more. They got Larry Sanders, but... We want to see the fables bring on up, bring, dream on episodes with boobs. Sure. See the boobs.

We want to finish. In general, we just want to see boobs. Yeah, for a minute, when you first subscribe to HBO Max, you could watch TaxiCab Confessions. Oh, the best. Which was a treat. The best. It was under a tab called Late Night that's not there anymore.

I learned a lot about acting watching Taxicab Confessions. How so? No, because it was the dawn of reality TV, except that those guys didn't sign their forms until the end of the taxi cab ride. And as such, had no fucking idea they were being filmed. So you got the most unfiltered fucking realness on that show. Granted, it only tells you how to realistically play shit-faced. But there's a very little. value in that. And there was just something like you want to see this, you know, as as voyeuristic

and creepy as it is, there's something very unfiltered about it. Because nowadays, everyone who's on reality television is fully aware they are on television and they go through grooming and they have, they, they built their own. Somebody's feeding them lines off camera. They developed their own catchphrases. It's nonsense. But there was something very, very, very verite about what was going on on taxi cab confessions. Was first in 10 an HBO show, the football sitcom? I've aged myself out of this conversation. I watched it happen.

I don't know, but that's what we need to be on HBO Mac. Yeah. That's we, you know? Yeah. And boxing with Buster Douglas. That's what we want. Yeah, first in 10. There we go.

I'm not making this up. That was a, I think it was like a, yeah, a woman ran a football team or was a manager, owner of football team. I don't know. Reliable source of, boobs first and ten? Do you remember it? I don't remember it. I just, I think they just enjoyed being able to curse on a half hour. I think that was, some defensive linemen had had some, yeah, we have no nudity on Stewart yet. There is as of yet no nudity on this season. Spoiler. Okay. No nudity.

TDMA though. You could dump them out. We could. We do like one fucking episode. We actually were, does I ad lib one one time? And I was not scolded, but I was like, yeah, we can't. We have ours already. Burt has one earlier, can't do it. Yeah. And I was like, oh, shame. How do you, how did they, where did they, who decided where, did, did, uh, did Chuck Lori come in for the day and just, and draw the lines for how many swears? No, I think it actually comes from HBO Max to a certain extent.

I mean, I know that, like, so everyone knows the PG-13 rule. You can have one fuck in a non-sexual context, non-sexual context. It can't be, you know, I, I, I, I, I, fuck Jesse's dog. Fuck me harder, Shrek. It can't be that. Like when Bono said it, one. they won a Grammy and the fine got overturned because it wasn't sexual or excretory content because it was exclamatory.

Exactly. And even go fuck yourself San Diego works in Anchorman. That keeps it at PG-13. Interesting. It's weird, but it is a thing. Right. And I think we're following some sort of similarly arbitrary guideline. Okay.

And that we are allowed an exclamatory fuck per episode. A couple shits peppered here and there. But they are leaning. into the violence. The first episode has the horror film classic of Blood on the Lens, if you'll notice in one shot. Yeah, I did see the blood on the lens. We're really happy about that.

So, and there is in episode 7, I think, is cartoonishly violent. It's like an itchy, scratchy cartoon basically. It's really, it's really raw. So we're enjoying

the freedom, but I don't think we're abusing the freedom. It's a genuinely hilarious show. I think people, people out there should watch it if they like funny stuff. Regardless of how familiar you are with the Big Bank Theory, you should watch the show. I don't think you need to be. I think a lot of people are enjoying it having not watched the mothership show as you are. John, I just want to say that I respect and value all your work.

You know how much I love your gifts and your hard work and so on. I have not seen the Big Bang Theory ever before, but I did watch and enjoy two great episodes, the two that were available to me as I turned on my HBO of Stewart fails to save the universe. Now, I have seen Stuart Saves His Family. So I knew

a little bit of the backstory. But again, we're not actually related to, you know what, I'm glad you enjoy all of it. I've seen Andy Richter control the universe as well. Does that help? That's a funny show. It was a funny show. It was. Look, Stuart Saves His Family is funny. Is it really? I've ever seen it. Yes, Stuart Saves His family is really

good. It's in that weird pocket of 90s SNL movies along with It's Pat where they're really hard to find But you know what? Stuart Saves his family is a shockingly rich

and heartfelt film about family dysfunction and alcoholism. Yeah, I'd leave it to Al Franken to do that, right? No. Leave it to the former senator from the great state of Minnesota.

And the It's Pat movie has a cameo from Wean. Wean are in... So both are art. I'm in. I am absolutely in. That plays tuba with wean. Julianne Moore is in the ladies man movie.

Wow. There you go. As a horny clown. Look it up. Look it up. You know what, John? Ladies man with Tim Meadows. I'm going to save looking that up for later.

Oh, yeah, you are. Once the fellas, after the kids have gone to bed. In here, in this room? John Ross Bowie, what a pleasure it is always to see you. So glad to be back, guys. John Ross Bowie, go watch him on your home box office, because it's going to be great. You're going to laugh.

You're a little butt off. Sure. Well, just not if you're too sensitive to blood on the lens. Christian Dwayneus is the producer of our program. Our theme music, love you by the free design, courtesy of the free design and light in the attic records. Find us on socials. What's the Christian? What's the latest thing that we've tried on the try hard guys?

What do you think? Let's see. We'll probably be doing something about, oh, you know what? it'll be the Dr. Pepper sausages, finally. A long way to. We're paying off an old Pledge Drive promise. We tried the deeply discounted Dr. Pepper flavored sausage

and you can watch us do it on our Instagram. And we drank the good stuff. And we drank the good stuff, which is Dr. Pepper and apple juice. Mixed together because someone had that in a dream. Yes. And it seemed good to them in their dream. There's a subreddit where people dream things

and they eat the thing that they dreamed. Oh, all right. And someone dreamed that a waiter named order up in the world's fanciest McDonald's that had sit-down table service, wouldn't let them order Dr. Pepper because he was going to bring them the good stuff. And the good stuff is Dr. Pepper with apple juice? I haven't had that dream. I did have the dream where my body was covered in sores that looked like kiwi fruit.

The original good stuff. The original good stuff. And you know, it's just around the corner on the tryhard guys, Jordan. We're going to Flavor Town. Oh boy. That's okay. That's all we'll say. It's all we're going to say.

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