Jordan, Jesse, GO! - That’s Meisner!, with Holly Chou
Episode Date: September 18, 2025On this week’s episode, we welcome voice actor, Holly Chou (Jubilee from X-Men '97), to chat about naughty nickelodeons, voice acting efforts, giant water bottles, and so much more.See Holly Chou at... L.A. Comic-Con, booth 867!Jordan and company are going to be at L.A. Comic Con this year, September 26th - 28th at table JO7September 26th - Jordan and Jesse!September 27th - Jordan and Eliza!September 28th - Jordan and Rob!Pre-order Jordan’s new Predator comic!Pre-order Jordan’s new Venom comic!Donate to Al Otro Lado, any amount helps right now.Buy signed copies of Youth Group and Bubble from Mission: Comics And Art!~ NEW JJGo MERCH ~Be sure to get our new ‘Ack Tuah’ shirt in the Max Fun store.Or, grab an ‘Ack Tuah’ mug!The Maximum Fun Bookshop!Follow the podcast on Instagram and send us your dank memes!Check out Jesse’s thrifted clothing store, Put This On.Follow brand new producer, Steven Ray Morris, on Instagram.Listen to See Jurassic Right!
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Give a little time for the child within you.
Don't be afraid to be young and free.
Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and sucks and run you.
It's Jordan Jesse Go. I am Jesse Thorne, America's Radio, sweetheart.
Jordan Morris Boy Detective.
Hi, Jordan. How are you this evening?
Jesse, I'm doing good.
Wait, hold on.
Because I can't have but notice.
You told me with your words that you were doing good.
you told me with your sigh that you had some things you're working through right now.
I'm just, I've kind of had it up to here with you.
Oh, wow.
Now, for the audience at home who are not watching on video, folks who are listening in audio,
you kind of indicated about a mid-pupil level.
Yeah.
And I don't want to bring our guest in too early, kind of typically how we do this show
for kind of new listeners.
Jesse and I will kind of like, you know, talk back and forth.
Sorry, new listeners.
Yeah, I know.
Just give me this, okay?
Let me have this.
You know, sometimes we have a great guest who brings in their fan base, so, you know.
That's true.
You know, I don't.
Maybe the rest of the X-Men are listening is what you're telling me.
Right.
If you're out there, Bishop, call me.
Yeah.
But not cable.
He knows what he did.
So, you know, usually we talk a little bit and then we kind of bring our guest in.
I don't want to involve our guests too early, but I think it has to be said, Jesse, where's your giant fucking water bottle?
Oh, wow.
Where's your giant fucking water bottle?
It's 2025.
It's irresponsible to not be carrying a giant fucking water bottle with you everywhere you go.
I have one.
Our wonderful guest has one.
I'm just sitting here with an under hydrated.
Sorry.
Fool.
Sorry to say it.
First of all, I do not accept your apology.
It's completely inappropriate thing to call you.
Your partner of 21st.
Your partner of 20 plus years.
Sorry, I, that wasn't paying attention to what you were saying.
I was too busy having a drink of my giant fucking water bottle, which I carry around with me
because I'm a human in 2025 who knows the value of hydration.
Drink, drink, drink.
You have a little fucking mug.
Like enough for a mouse's tear drop.
The weepings of a mouse.
that's all that's all you'll be drinking and then you'll be cursing you'll be cursing that tiny mug
when you're passing your fucking kidney stone when you're sorry this is tough love what's
happening right now when i'm ejaculating baby powder thank you although you'll save money on baby
powder i guess poof yeah yeah i won't chafe so i want to worry about that i have one our
wonderful guest has one yes jesse in the year of our lord yes 2025 yes why
have you resisted giant fucking water bottle?
Tell me.
Jordan, I feel like I have access to water.
Like, I'm not concerned in my day-to-day life that I'm going to need water but not be
able to get to it.
But I think the thing giant fucking water bottle does.
And I'll just, I'll go ahead and shout out my brand.
Okay.
SM, simple modern.
That's right.
I'm an SM girly.
Okay.
Great brand.
What it does is just, you're carrying it around with you.
So it reminds you constantly be drinking water.
for some reason.
Okay.
And that reason is positive, I guess.
Yeah.
So.
I hear the Gen. A. Generation Alpha.
They're really into urinating, so.
Sure. Yeah.
That's why. That's why they always stay hydrated.
And again, this is why we don't have new listeners.
We need to reach out to Gen Alpha saying, hey, we're here.
We're peeing a lot too.
Yeah. I understand.
We also don't like watching sex on film.
Is that true?
Gen Alpha?
Can see.
He doesn't like watching sex and movies.
I feel like I need to travel with a snack.
Yeah.
I try and keep some nuts in my car.
So?
But I don't feel like I'm get, I need thirsty.
Like, I feel like I, there's, there's, the world is full of water, but it's a hassle
to get a snack.
Jesse, water, water everywhere, not a drop to drink, okay?
Unless you have a giant fucking cup.
You wouldn't believe what I'll drink from.
Can I just say that?
I don't even care.
I mean, I've got old man in the sea type math.
Because I just been I just been slurping on the pier.
Yeah, well, you just, you head on out to Santa Monica, pay 20 bucks for parking, run out there to the pier.
Well, I'd be a little less because I go to the Annenberg family beach house.
Oh, it's one of the great values of the beach here in Southern California.
It's a fun, fun hack there.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
But yeah, so it's never, it's never occurred to you.
The world is now everyone is carrying around a giant water.
Yeah.
Because of the benefits.
Which I don't need to get into.
I know them.
Yeah, sure.
You have a certain glow.
Sure, thank you.
Until this point, before I saw your water bottle, I just assumed you were pregnant.
Nope, it's the water.
Okay.
I have a water baby.
Well, I will birth it through the toilet.
Have you considered giant water bottle?
Have you tried a giant water bottle?
I'll tell you what.
I have a small water bottle.
I'm going to put it at...
What's your brand?
What kind of girly are you?
This is a Japanese water bottle.
I can't remember right now what the brand of this water bottle.
is, but the honest truth is that a menswear boutique sent me one for being a good customer.
Okay.
And then eventually I lost it, because I will bring a water bottle to the flea market,
but then I will leave it on someone's table and walk away.
Okay.
But I did eventually lose it, and then I ordered myself a new one because I had liked it so much.
Okay.
It's very smooth.
It's very smooth.
It feels almost soft.
But you're not toting this thing around with you wherever you go.
But I don't tote this thing wherever I go.
And in fact, I cannot tote this thing wherever I go right now, Jordan, because I can't find the lid.
Oh.
So in my house, and I don't know why this is, it's not a system I came up with.
When the water bottle comes out of the dishwasher, it goes into a drawer, which is fine.
So far, everything is fine.
But there's a water bottle pile and then a lid pile separate from the water.
Why not just put the lid onto the water bottle?
Does everybody in your house have a giant fucking water bottle?
Oh, there's so many water bottles.
my house. Okay. But they're not, they're not, it's not this giant giant giant
tumbler style that, that Jordan that you're carrying, or the giant speed access spout
style that our guest is carrying today. They're not generally not insulated. These are basic
water bottles. But the, the, the tops are separate from the bottle. And somehow, about a week
ago, when my water bottle came out of the dishwasher, I put it away and couldn't find the top. And now I
have no water bottle well there you go that's why you're so that's why you that's why you look
like and sorry this is going to be rude a fucking skeleton wow you look like a walk and talking
i don't even know if i bought that apology the other one i didn't accept this one didn't even seem
sincere it's spooky season because i'm here podcasted with a goddamn skeleton okay first of all
it's a vibraphone oh can i just say it's a lot of it's not i don't listen to jazz i don't know
I don't know what the skeleton.
It has a motor inside of it that wears.
I don't know.
I don't listen to jazz.
Makes it sound really cool.
Should we introduce our guest on the program?
Find out why she...
A hydrated guest?
Why she's glowing.
Yeah.
She is an actor, a con friend of Jordans.
One of the stars of X-Men 97 on which she plays Jubilee.
Holly Chow.
Hello, hello.
I have been dying to jump into this water bottle.
Jump in.
Let's hear it.
So, the reason that you don't use...
use water bottles that you do have is because in your home, chaos rains.
And so this is the thing is that the child, are you childless?
Yes.
So the childless people have child.
These are our water babies.
Sorry, I'm sorry to cut you off.
Jordan, do you not have a son?
I don't, this is a thing.
You're working on getting one.
I'm, I got to get a son.
I'm working on.
Okay, sorry, go ahead, Holly.
I've got to get him one of those.
Yeah, but we, you know, we're talking about water babies.
These are our water babies.
We can wash the, we can wash it by hand.
We can wash both parts.
We can track both parts and reunite them with water.
So is this, you're, are you suggesting to me, Holly, that this is like the sack of flour
from health class?
Yeah, Jesse, I'm trying to.
You can't leave your flower baby or your water baby, your bread baby, basically, on the table at
the farmer's market.
Yeah, pretty much.
If you combine a water baby and a flower baby, you will get a bread baby.
If you have a hearth baby, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get my water.
bottle into a good private school.
Got to get them on a list now.
You got to start early.
The applications, they'll never get into a good college.
I'll never get into a good college.
Do you remember, like, elementary school?
I don't know if, because you were open-setting California.
I don't know if your school would have had the same, like, vogue.
But I think it was second or third grade where one kid had one of those, you know,
those 90s water bottles that were like plastic with a long straw, kind of this shape.
Oh, where the straw went, p.
Some of them did.
Some of them did.
But it was like a four.
So this one didn't go, or it went.
Okay.
But this is like a water bottle that you could get if you won a lower level carnival game at the state fair.
Yeah, can you picture it, that particular shape that hasn't been around since the 90s and like that seven up guy, that's a figure guy?
You're talking about Fidoido?
Wait, isn't that the spot?
Oh, Fido was Sprite, I think.
And the spot was seven.
Who was that like Wiggly drawing?
The Wiggly stick figure guy's Fido.
Oh, okay.
These were the forgotten mascots of our youth.
Shout out to the noid.
They're all out in the wasteland and inside out.
Fido-Dido had a full life outside of 7-Up.
I want to be clear, like, or outside of Sprite.
Like, if you think he's just a Sprite guy or Slice or whatever he was the spokesman for.
No, it was, there was, he had a whole life as a T-shirt character.
Gangsta rap album.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there was that particular shape that's like just calls to mind neon colors and, um,
Saved by the Bell and things like that.
A purple triangle.
It's kind of a skew.
Yes, exactly.
And I'm like a blue behind it.
But, yeah, it was that particular shape that I'm miming that's great for a hot pet audio medium.
But it had a super long straw that was basically the part that was extending out of the bottle was almost as long as the bottle.
Yes.
And some of them had a very tiny, like little individual cap just at the very top.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
And it's strapped onto the straw.
It was like a little top hat for a straw.
Yeah. But so I don't know if these were just in vogue in the 90s or this one kid whose parents were like, you know what, the water fountains at your school are gross. We're going to eat this bottle. And then all of a sudden was a big trend because then all the other stupid kids want, including myself, all of us other kids wanted, you know, water bottles. We're all carrying around these water bottles. We're all losing them all, you know, but they were, they proliferated. Did you have this at your school?
No, you know, I don't think I was, I think I was fine to drink out of the water fountain.
I do know, I feel like I did win these a lot or like this was a, this is a thing you give a child when the child sells some wrapping paper or has perfect attendance.
I'm sure that's the case now.
It's a swag item.
That's how I have this.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, tell us about your water bottle.
So mine is courtesy of Out Loud Audio, New York.
Thank you so much.
They have locations in both New York and L.A., but at the time that I started, uh,
for X-Men 97, I was living in New York at the time, and so I would go into sessions at
Out Loud New York. I did not actually get this then, but when I moved, I've been back in
L.A. now for a couple of years, but it had been, I didn't have, I think, a session to go into
immediately before moving. So I never sort of got a chance to say goodbye to, you know, the crew there,
the engineers and the admin staff and whoever was super helpful and super nice at Out Loud.
So I think I was in New York probably for New York Comic-Con last year, but at some point I was back in New York and I had to, I was called in for a session.
So then I went back to out loud and I was able to say, hi, I was like, hi, you guys, that stuff.
And they were like, hey, did we ever give you any like stuff?
So they just took me into this closet and they were like, yeah, this is stuff from our holiday party or whatever.
And so I get this giant great water bottle, which is perfect for conventions because you can't get away from your table and sweatshirts.
A brown Christmas tree.
A sweatshirt, a t-shirt, yeah, the, like, Christmas candy from two years ago.
No, it wasn't.
I mean, this is proof.
This is proof that smag, that smag.
This is proof that swag works, Jordan, because.
If it's good swag.
If it's useful swag.
Our listeners, a lot of our listeners are voiceover artists who are looking for a studio in
which to record that has a location in both New York and Los Angeles.
Not a unicostal, but a bi-coastal studio operation.
they now know out loud audio is the place to go that's right if you're listening billy west
and he loves the show we would never have him on absolutely no voiceover king billy west on
they already know um this is something we chatted a little bit about when you were on the other
great max fun podcast that i'm on free with ads but we talk about this so often on the show
with voiceover people i feel like i want to bring it up here we're we're fascinated with
the um the practice of efforts yes yes uh many years ago on the program our friend rob cordry
had came to our show like i think directly from having recorded uh a part in a video game and he had
recorded his 200 lines or whatever but then spent most of a day just going oh at differing volumes
and levels and yeah yeah tell me about efforts how have you have you have you
had occasion? I mean, you must have. It's a very action-packed show. Yeah, a few on the show. Mostly
it's in auditions because they'll have your, you know, your side that's like they tell you
nothing about the game. It's all under codename, but they'll give you like a little descriptor.
Sometimes they'll give you a little descriptor. And then like five to 20 lines. And then
depending on what efforts they want to hear. And it's usually a small, medium loud. It's usually an
impact. And then it's an incoming and then an outgoing. So you getting hit small medium loud. Or like small,
medium large or yeah i shouldn't say small medium loud it's more it's more about like um you know a
little cut a medium punch sure and then you're getting guts on the floor kicked out of you yeah
or throwing a punch small medium large effort um or wielding a weapon small medium large i've done this
but for pornography you do you don't appear in coming and out going small medium large yeah
wielding and it's stuck in a dryer yeah helping help me get it let me get out let me get out
of this dryer.
Do you have an effort
you think you're particularly good at?
You know, toot your own horn here, obviously.
Let's see.
Creative people can be modest sometimes.
I know.
Steven's like, I got his finger on the game.
I'm so ready for this.
I would say that I think
something that I, that comes to me
more easily than just
an immediate, like, large effort
is the wielding effort.
Because if I'm like dragging
something and then, you know, swinging it, I somehow feel like...
The old dragon swing.
That comes easier to me.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I've done that in pornography.
You see the old dragon swing, sure.
Yeah.
So as opposed to like just like out of nowhere, just, ha, because I don't know where that started.
Did I, did I draw back?
Did I just like clap their heads together like coconuts or whatever?
But if I've got a giant heavy scythe or something like that and I'm...
That was good.
Sorry, Stephen.
How often specifically, so like, like an X-Men 97, this is a linear program, okay?
Like, well, one thing happens, then the next thing happens.
There's a script that says all the things that are happening in order.
You know what I'm talking about?
In these video games, I feel like there's these dialogue trees that go off into forever when characters are talking to each other.
So do you even know, like, what you're responding to when you?
Not a lot.
Sometimes they'll tell you.
Like, the director in a session is usually pretty good about setting it up and being like, okay, so this is a section where you're, you just stole some stuff and somebody's confronting you about it.
Or like, okay, now you're not sorry.
You're just like, fuck you, man.
Or, you know, now you're just trying to get out of it.
That's a popular choice in dialogue tree.
Sorry, not sorry?
Yeah.
You get your stats based on what you choose.
I'm always like, I want to choose sorry, not sorry.
Sorry, not sorry.
Yeah, so they'll maybe tell you, but.
you know, they, you're not given a lot beforehand, certainly.
So if you're hearing it, it's probably on the day, like five minutes before you record.
You may not have been given the lines in advance.
Sometimes they'll send it to you.
Or like, sometimes I have to insist or beg to be like, even if they're changing it, can I just get a sense of like roughly what's going on?
Is there techno jargon?
Is there, you know, am I going to have to cry?
How much screaming am I going to have to do?
That's also come up with me in the pornography.
Yeah, all the crying and screaming.
but yeah so often it's like you go in that day and they'll be like okay so this is the game
this is or this is the franchise or this is the character or type of character that you're playing
and then it depends on if you're dubbing an existing game so is it are you laying down
the first track are you originating this this role or are you going to have to you know
work within the realms of somebody that's already recorded something in another language
A lot of times, Jordan, in the old version of the game,
all the voices were Mel Blank, but he's gone.
Sure, yeah.
Eric Bousa, this is a popular voiceover guy.
Who's also on our show?
Is he?
He is the Sentinels.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Boussa does all the Looney Tunes now, and he's fucking great.
If you've ever watched a modern Looney Tunes thing, it's this one guy, and he's great.
Anyway, funny story, huh?
He's great.
It's incredible.
I think, Jordan,
and I, you and I have talked about this, but like, when we were recording Bubble, the smash
hit scripted comedy sci-fi audio podcast written by Jordan Morris.
Thank you.
And friends.
And others.
Many talented people worked on that show.
There was a part where our friends, Mark and How from, we got this, came in and were kind
enough to just do the miscellaneous voices.
Like, we had basically cast every famous person we knew who was available on a day that
we could be at the office in all of the various big parts and then not billy west no no no no
not you billy you can't afford him uh he can't afford us yeah but then mark and hal came in and did
like a bunch of one line parts yeah and the ability of those guys professional or any professional
voiceover actor to give completely different takes at a at the drop of a hat like just with like
i'd do it this way oh okay completely new way complete
new way, completely new way. Pick one of those for, whichever one. Next line. Have you,
have you done that thing where you have to just be 30 random people who they need?
As a utility person, I mean, not 30. In X-Men, I'm, aside from Jubilee, I'm also like a UN person
and then one mysterious person on a screen or something like that. So here and there, I wish,
you know, I would love to, you know, pull out whatever. Be more valets. Little kids and old ladies
and the dog barking and mysterious tree. Sorry, is the old lady here with us right now? Can we talk to
the random old lady?
Well, I got my start in early porn.
See, she got her start in early porn.
She has a backstory.
Which is how I met Jesse.
It's called building a character, Jordan, Stanislovsky, et cetera.
Just even told me you knew the old lady.
Well, the repetition, right?
That's Meisner.
That's every single possible interpretation.
The repetition, that's Meisner.
The repetition, that's Meisner.
Yeah.
It changes a little bit each time as you become more and more connected to the other
actor. The Repetitillian, that's Smyzner.
I was listening.
The Repetillion is your next free with ads.
Okay.
So, yeah, we're going to be what?
Repetitillion 3.
I'm glad this old pornography came up because as I walked into the studio, full disclosure,
I was a few minutes late for this recording.
My apologies.
I was across the street watching Dana Gould.
Yeah, I know you, I never stopped saying things.
I know where you weren't drinking water.
Sorry.
Okay.
Your skeleton ass wasn't drinking.
Water. Okay. So I was across the street with visiting Dynasty Typewriter, Wonderful Comedy Theater in Los Angeles, seeing Friends of Jordan Jesse Goe, Blaine Capatch, Lori Kilmartin, Chris Estrada, Dana Gould, and probably some, oh, Andy Daily. And Andy Daily. And Andy Daily as well. It was a wonderful program. I was a few minutes late. And when I stepped into the studio, Jordan said, just so you know, it is the kind of program where you can talk.
Same time, Spoke said to Holly, where you can talk about the silent pornography you watched in college.
Sure.
I was assigned to watch.
A signed to watch.
You know, it wasn't just my, you know.
Right.
I mean, we've all, like, had trouble with our speakers in our dorm room, computer speakers in our dorm room.
Okay.
What was the context of this?
It was an intro to early film, I believe.
Intro to pornography.
Life is but an intro to pornography.
Sure.
Yes.
But so it started with, so I forget the professor's name.
I only had him for that one class.
But it was...
Look to your left.
Look to your right.
One of these people won't jack off.
Professor Hard on.
Professor Swan.
Sure.
I don't know.
It's fine.
Balland.
Professor...
Another one next week.
I don't know.
It was a great class.
We got to watch Rope that Hitchcock movie.
But so it was starting way back, you know, how the technology came to be.
Why is it 24 frames per second?
You know, Edison stealing from Frank W. Dixon.
But it started with, you know, de Garatips and that old bet about whether a horse runs on, like, lifts all four hooves off the ground while it's running.
So this, you know, leads into film, all that stuff.
But at some point, we're talking about maybe it was when we got into Hayes Code stuff or like indecency and things like that.
But when it's still silent era, people still got to jerk off, I guess.
So they...
I mean, one can only assume.
Sure, yeah.
One that we saw.
No way to check it out.
I think there were two maybe that we saw, but the one that I remember had the framing of, like, a guy in the conceit of the silent film, however long it was, watching porn.
So he, like, goes to a Nickelodeon, whatever he calls it.
So he, like, goes and he puts in a coin.
You put in your buffalo head penny, and you crank a crank.
And then watch some buffalo head.
But so, yeah, he puts in the coin.
They had some really freaky shit in that.
Before the censorship payment.
So, yeah, he puts in the coin.
He puts his eyes up to the viewfinder.
And he then watches this porn of, like, you know, the man, woman on the bid and smoking
cigarettes and, you know, whatever they're doing.
Lifting one foot off the floor.
Exactly.
That indicates.
Yeah.
But then he at one point is, you know, takes it out too because why else is he there, I guess.
But so I distinctly remember one of the dialogue cards, because it is a silent movie, it was, oh, what a feeling while we are watching this like ancient porn, this ancient penis of somebody who was certainly dead by now.
Wait, so do they, did they show the parts?
Yeah.
It wasn't, I mean, you know, I'm sure it was still underground.
It wasn't, I'm sure this wasn't playing in a theater.
Sure.
So if you're going to make illicit, you know.
I don't know.
They had like people throwing rings onto elephants that had whatever.
Like a lot of shit was going in theaters at the time.
And then the penis came at the screen and everybody ran out because they thought that it was going to rob you.
He was going to rob right.
We are referencing the Great Train robbery.
We are both very smart people.
We are both smart.
And we drink lots of water.
And we drink lots of water.
We're hydrated.
Jesse, I'm surprised that at R.
I don't know if maybe this happened to you.
Were you ever made to watch any, like, porno at our swinging hippie college?
No, I watched The Shining in High School English.
Okay.
And Carrie.
Okay.
That's pretty.
And did you read them or just watch them because the teacher was hungover?
Just watch them.
No, it was because our teacher was all about intertextuality.
He was very postmodern.
Our teacher, Mr. Crawford.
Shout to Mr. Crawford.
I think I first made out with my wife in Mr. Crawford's class.
In class?
In class.
What a rebel.
I mean, you know, something.
Like, maybe, like, during a, when we're supposed to be working on a project or something?
Did you carve your initials in a heart on the desk?
Yeah, basically.
Mr. Crawford dressed like a guy who would do that.
Mr. Crawford was like a, he was a student teacher our first year, and he was...
Turn the chair around backwards?
Yeah.
He had, like, just...
Did he wrap the lessons?
He had just graduated from San Francisco State with a degree in women's studies.
And he was all about wearing black leather jacket.
and talking about the, like, feminist interpretations of the Sherelles.
Great guy, Mr. Crawford.
But, yeah, we watched, we watched Carrie.
We watched The Shining.
We read Linda Barry comics at one point.
Okay.
It was a very overall, very Gen X experience.
But in a nice way.
Yeah.
In college, I don't think I ever did anything like that.
I mean, I remember that I had a European.
history teacher talked a lot about
his cats.
That's pretty good.
Was he using the cats as an
allegory for... No, I just had
thought of the cats were cute and they'd do different
funny stuff, like, little funny stories. He was right.
He was very sweet and the
cat stories were really cute.
And it was a lot better than the damn
sans culots. Put some cool lots on, you
fucking assholes.
Okay, not to out myself as a
total freak, but I took Japanese
sexuality in post-war Japan.
in college, and I was the TA for the pornography studies class at UC Santa Barbara.
What?
Constance Penley, an icon of sexual or studies, feminist studies.
But we actually had to like bring porn and we would watch porn in class.
Were you in graduate school at the time?
No, but I graduated, but I was still.
But you were still cranking.
I feel, you see, I feel like it seems like we would to some, we would to Ordle Roberts University compared to you people.
I mean you had it on us these Santa Cruz hippies yeah I mean I would like take attendance and I would also if any industry people came up from LA I would greet the porn stars get them coffee snacks porn stars came to your class and spoke yeah directors and filmmakers okay because we had a class at Santa Cruz called working in film and television where people who had graduated from Santa Cruz that worked in the industry came to speak to us and the only one I remember is the guy who invented kangaroo jack being a children's movie
Like, he's like, like, he came in, like, the whole class was just him saying, like, and then I had the idea, what if we just took this one weird dream sequence and pretended like that was the whole movie to trick families into bringing their children to this adult-themed action comedy.
I think it's maybe the, because you see Santa Barbara was two hours, two and a half hours from L.A., Santa Cruz, like five hours.
I mean, it doesn't well have a nice little trip to wine country.
Right.
After a long day of shooting pornography, you want to talk to some college students.
Exactly.
I have a nice glass of Merlot.
Exactly.
Paul Jammati came to his class as well.
Sure.
What, he's not drinking Merlo.
Remember that?
Remember how everyone said that for a while?
Yeah, for a while everyone was saying that.
Not my tempo.
Because of that movie.
Anyway.
Were you in the room when we also mentioned Paul Jammati earlier?
No.
Oh, this is a fun little moment of the pre-mic conversation slipping into the on-mike conversation.
It wasn't a big thing, but at one point, I somehow was sent to Langer-saw.
a video or maybe it's just one of those things that goes on like TikTok or Instagram or
something.
But there was a man on the street like promo for, I think it was the real world, Seattle or something
like that.
And it's just like, hey, you know, it's just like a young Paltamati like in the 90s going like,
watch the real world premiere on Saturday at 830, woo, or something like that.
Stay tuned for Liquid Television.
I'm about to become one of the greatest actors of my generation.
It looked like it was just like, hey, this guy's hanging out on a quad.
Let's go talk to him.
Sure.
You know, hey, you want to shoot a promo?
And he's like, okay, sure.
Oh, my God.
This guy's dad was commissioner of baseball.
Was he?
I bet he still has one of those.
If you're a baseball player, you play for like 10 years or something.
I don't remember what the rule is.
You get like a golden ticket and you can go to any baseball game ever, forever with a guest.
I bet fucking, I bet fucking Paul Gemini has one of us.
Because his dad was commissioner of baseball.
He died in the line of duty.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, have a heart attack.
Well, hey, how about this?
Let's take a break.
Let's speculate as to what else.
Paul Giamatti might have.
Yeah.
And then come back for us some more.
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Jordan, yes.
I have been adding so many extraordinary things to put this on shop.
Oh, tell me more.
Well, for example, I just took a picture with all these Lucha Libre magazines that I've got.
I'm going to bring those with me, Jordan.
when we go to Los Angeles Comic-Con
because we are going to share a day of tabling
at our A. Comic-Con.
We are going to be at L.A. Comic-Con on September 26th.
That's right.
Down there at the L.A. Convention Center,
Jesse and me, we are going to be at Artist Alley,
table J-O-7.
Here's a good way to remember that.
Jackoff 7.
That's right.
I'm going to be there all weekend.
I've got a new pal at the table each day,
but you're going to want to come to see me.
and Jesse on the 26th.
I'll sign some comic books for you
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from the Put This On Shop.
And even if you're not with us in person,
you can go to Put This Onshop.com
and check out some of the amazing stuff that we have.
A lot of gorgeous vintage sunglasses lately.
A lot of beautiful jewelry for men and women.
Native American turquoise jewelry
like vintage borderline antique,
Native American turquoise jewelry
a lot of that, a lot of Mexican silver
lately, plus gold jewelry
like real true fine jewelry
is available in the Put This On Shop
if you're wondering. Plus, you know,
I got some silly bullshit.
Dang. Like if you just want
Gremlin's two cards, I got those.
Put this on Shop.com is where you can
find all that stuff.
Jordan, is L.A. Comic-Con
your main upcoming comic book thing?
Yeah, I've got a couple more
live things that I'll announce
soon. So, you know, keep your eye on this space and on social media. But yeah, as of this point,
I really want you to come see us at L.A. Comic-Con, the 26th through the 28th. Great. Let's get back to the show.
America's Radio Sweetheart, Jordan Morris Boy Detective.
Holly Chow, interloper.
Holly, how many of these cons do you go to?
Because Jordan's been conning all over town.
I have been conning all over for, just for like the last year.
And so I keep saying like, I am trying to back off a little bit more just so I have more time to sleep in my own bed and stuff like that.
We'll see how much stuff.
And to not eat expensive nachos.
Expensive nachos.
This is the thing is that like, I feel like I said this last summer, but.
I'm saying it again a summer later that I feel like I've gained like 20 pounds in the last like two years just because like you're sleep deprived, you got on a red eye and you went there and you're, you know, working at nine in the morning or like, you know, getting up to get to the floor by 10.
And, you know, what's available that day is like chicken fingers or something like that.
It's and even when there are like, you know, there's like a salad available or something.
It's just like I to get through this day, I need a fried chicken sandwich.
Right.
When there is a salad option, you don't want to eat that.
It's gross.
It is gross.
Like, I like eating salad.
Yeah.
The salads at the cons have been gross.
What I have sometimes done if I have time, like, if I arrive the day before and I have
enough time to, like, run to a grocery store.
So I'll go get those pre-made salads, which can also be gross.
But then I'll just have them in my.
But it's better than like the Caesar salad at the chicken fingers.
Yeah.
Sure.
There was one con where it was like actively slimy.
And I went.
Yeah.
for, I don't know.
Do you ever get a chance when you do these to, like, see the place you're in?
Because I've kind of been finding that challenging.
Like, I went to Baltimore.
You're like, oh, Baltimore, I hear it's great.
And I'm like, their hard rock cafe looks was kind of cool.
Yeah, yeah.
In the lobby of the Hilton was very nice.
Yeah.
Cannot beat the double tree.
It depends.
Are you, so since we're there in like a different capacity, because I'll go with a different
con rep or something.
Are you self-arranging all of these?
Do you have a con rep?
I do not have a rep, but like sometimes I'll book it myself, sometimes the publisher will book it, sometimes they'll invite me.
Oh, right, because you're under a publisher.
Right, right.
So, you know, it's a mixed bag.
Yeah, yeah.
Grab bag.
So I don't know if they will arrange, like if the con is covering your flight and your luggage and your hotel.
I don't know if I feel comfortable, like, I don't know if they'll be willing to be like, let me spend an extra day so I can go to the Hershey factory, you know, which I did a pretty great, very small con, very lovely people.
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. It was Harrisburg Popping Comic-Con. It was lovely. But people were like,
oh, what else are you going to see? I'm like, I think I'm just here for the three days. And then I'm,
I'm, you know, heading out, you know. You're not going to see our famous Department of Water and
Power? I know. But they were saying that the Hershey Factory was sort of near by. I'm like,
I don't, I mean, I guess somebody would be willing to drive me, but like, I think I'm just tired.
You know? I guess a Bay Area thing that I've never done is the Jelly Belly factory.
I have done that. You've done the Jelly Bell factory. I did it. Because I was in a production of Maraud
odd and it takes place in an insane asylum and I thought a nice cast gift would be belly flops
like these mutated sort of, you know, reject jelly beans because they sell them as a novelty or
whatever.
I didn't know that.
So somebody took me up, but we went, you know, we were students and we had classes during
the day rehearsals at night and so I think we could only go.
Somebody very kindly, I think it was the AD on that show.
No, either AD or like stage manager or something or assistant stage manager.
But so she drove, they drove us out, and there's a tour where you can like watch them making, I almost said making the donuts, but making the jelly bellies.
But because it was a Saturday or a Sunday or whatever, that wasn't, it wasn't that you didn't get to see the Charlie and the chocolate factory of it all.
But, you know, we got to sort of look at the facilities that nobody was in and then go to the gift shop and buy the things that I wanted to make my cast gifts.
What is it?
Where is the jellybelly factory?
Is it like Rohnert Park or something like that?
I know.
I feel like when jellybellies became a thing.
it's i mean i've mentioned on the program before i'm sure that because i went to this suburban
private school for middle school uh and all the kids and the computer lab had max uh i just
associate max with rich kids even though i'm now 44 years old and can buy any computer i want
it's my job to use it aren't you friends with john hodgeman who is pc like represents
PCs or something yes but he has a strong preference for max uh he's a really
Real Rich Kid.
But yeah, I also associate going to the Jelly Belly Factory with Rich Kids for this.
Only blue blood hopped collar.
Like as a field trip?
Yeah.
I mean, I think they like went, no, I think they went like on the weekend.
Oh, like a parent would just take them.
Like that was their Chuckie Cheese was like, let's go to the belly.
The Jelly Belly Factory.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, my Chuckie Cheese is knowing what color sneakers to wear and not wear.
Sure.
Fairfield, California.
Fairfield.
The real blue-collar kids went to the Hydrox home office.
They didn't even have Hydrocks there.
They were just working there.
But you got to see shipping forms for Hydrox.
Yeah.
My wife grew up in Marin County.
She grew up lower middle and middle class in Marin County, which is unusual because now
Marine County is almost exclusively rich people.
A few little corners of Marin that aren't just rich people, but almost exclusively rich
people. But her
grandfather
was a judge. And her
grandfather was
they were not rich
because he had, they were Catholic
and had so many children. But
he was like a high
powered mover and shaker because he was a
judge. And he had a friend
who was the owner
of it sits.
And my wife would get to go
to his house when she was a little kid
because he had kids too. And so like
grandpa would bring them over and they would swim in the pool and then there was a freezer
outside that was always full of it sits like when my wife tells me about that it blows my mind
every like I've been with my wife 35 years and every moment I hear that it explodes my brain yeah
that sounds like something that's written into like you know the plot line of richy rich that's not a
real thing in real life yeah 25 years 27 years not 35 years just correcting my
I'm not 60 yet you wanted some segments yeah just so you know holly the way it works on our
program is we're really creative do a lot hard work and write a lot of ideas for stuff to happen on
the show so what you're about to hear is not just people who called into us and wanted to tell us
something and then at the end they said it's for your segment blah blah blah this is actually
segments that we've thought of that they're calling in response to our hard work and creativity
hey jordan jesse guest uh hopefully not isaacques of monous mouse uh this is
Elliot in Madison, Wisconsin.
I'm listening to your most
recent episode with Chris from
Les and Jake on my way to work this
morning, and he is talking about stage
banter. And it reminded me of
some stage banter I heard recently
when I went to see modest mouse in the flaming
lives. Pause it for a second.
He's in a casino
using slot machines. Right? Am I wrong about that?
Gotta be. Okay. I just wanted to write
because he hasn't said anything about it.
Yeah, we have a lot of listeners who are slot jockeys.
Yeah.
You know, they call in cigarette dangling from their mouth.
Just, you know, shaking their empty G&T cup at the cocktail waitress trying to get another one.
Okay, sorry.
Hopefully it's another modest mouse, et cetera.
And it reminded me of some stage banter I heard recently when I went to see Modest Mouse in the Flaming Lips.
It was honestly one of the best concerts I've ever been to, but at one point,
Isaac Brock of modest mouse
was talking between songs
and he said, you know,
you know how Tony Hawk
never makes eye contact when he's working?
And everyone was like, oh yeah, mm-hmm.
Like, you could see the sort of ascent in the audience.
And then I thought about it.
I was like, how the fuck would I know that?
That is the least relatable anecdote
I've maybe ever heard.
Yeah, that's all I got.
Love you guys.
Love you, too.
I can understand that feeling because I just went to see Dana Gould do 75 minutes of jokes about sequels to the Poseidman adventure.
Now, I don't, I got a jump in here.
Okay.
I got to jump in here.
Jordan, I usually like you to keep your yap shut.
I know.
I'm the engineer who chimes in sometimes.
I've worked with Tony Hawk.
Yeah.
Jordan, you've worked with Tony Hawk.
to me that he brought up Tony Hawk
because of the few, like,
the two random pandemic interests
that I would not have predicted
that I would get into
were like, BTS, that's a different story.
And skateboarding, like Tony Hawk,
like a minor Tony Hawk obsession.
Right.
But anyway, please, go ahead.
No, no, no, please.
And are you skateboarding yourself?
No, my joints are really messed up.
Sure.
But you're watching skateboard videos.
My interest was, well,
actually started with Tony Hawk
because, you know how he's,
he famously has,
those funny like tweets or formerly tweets that would be like, you know, people almost recognizing
him but not or something like that. So there was a super funny one. Good on social media, Tony
Tony Hawk. There was super funny one that was like, girl at restaurant, are you Tony Hawk? Me, yes, her.
Why? And I just thought that was so funny. So I'm like, this dude's funny. And then I think in the
algorithm, it came up like his, you know, Tony Hawk breaks down skateboarding scenes in different
movies or whatever. And it was so fascinating. Like the stuff that he was saying about, you know,
behind scenes trivia and all that stuff. But also because of the.
the space that he occupies in its history, it's usually, like, he'll point out, like,
oh, this or that scene.
And it's often just him or his friends, you know, that are like, oh, yeah, you can tell you
about that, because that's Rodney Mullen.
He's stunt doubling for, he skate doubling for, you know, Christian Slater and blah,
blah, blah, but between him and Mike McGill, because they're different kinds of skaters.
So I'm like, what is all of this, you know, jargon and stuff like that?
So I got really interested in that.
Anyway, so then watching the Stacey Peralta documentaries.
So it's more like the cultural history and stuff of it.
So not actually skateboarding myself.
Sure.
Good of the joints.
Because of the joints.
Because of the joints.
But, yeah.
That's also why I don't skateboard.
Yeah, that's definitely way.
It's purely my joints.
I totally kill them.
It's also why I can't slam dunk.
I'm not skateboarding because of another kind of joy.
What kind?
Rodney Mullen.
Because I'm too stoned, baby.
Wait, stoned on drugs?
On drugs.
I guess probably people skip all their stone.
That didn't work.
Some people do.
But the people who get really, who want to get serious about it have to make a choice.
And this is the kind of thing that, like, Roddy Mom does that.
That's the joke I was making.
Jordan.
Yeah.
Don't do drug stuff on our show.
No, sorry.
But do do skateboarding stuff.
I do.
Are you right?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm not there at all the families.
You've worked with Tony Huck.
I want to hear about this.
Okay.
Yes.
So I, in a, in a, three careers ago, I used to be on a, on an action sports network that's not
around anymore called Fuel TV.
On the hit show, the daily habit.
And by the way, the habit is skateboarding.
Sure.
Yeah.
I think it was supposed to be snickers.
actually, the inaugural sponsor of the show was Snickers.
I think at the time, Snickers thing was like, it's a habit.
Make it a habit.
Always eat Snickers.
And then Snickers wasn't a part of it for a long time, but it just kept that name.
You know what?
For a while, my daughter, Scarlett, was really into Snickers.
Yeah.
And so sometimes there would be Snickers around the house.
Snickers are really good.
They're really satisfied.
They really satisfied.
Make it a habit.
You said, did you make it a habit?
I made it a habit.
I made it a habit.
So needless to say,
Tony Hawk was on this thing all the fucking time.
I did bits with Tony Hawk.
We interacted a lot.
We saw each other in public and talked.
And Tony Hawk is lovely.
Meet your gaze, knew my name, chatted about stuff, asked me how it was going.
I don't know what Isaac Brock's problem is.
Maybe this is, sorry, an Isaac Brock problem.
Maybe Isaac Brock when he was working with Tony Hawk was being a real F&A.
Can I say this about Isaac Brock?
Yes.
Maybe he is a guy with a reputation for being difficult,
and that's why so many different people have been in modest mouths.
All right.
Yes, when a guy from the Smiths quits modest mouse.
So really that stage banter should have just been,
you know how Tony Hawk won't make eye contact with me, Isaac Brock?
Right.
When he's working?
Anyway, so sorry.
I think I don't like.
like the fact that a guy's getting up on stage in front of a bunch of people talking about
Tony Hawk being too cool for school.
The man is cool.
Do you think the manager, do you think the manager for Modest Mouse, like, came in to, like, knock,
like, hey, uh, Isaac, you got him in it?
And, uh, Isaac Brock's like, yeah, sure, come on, come on in, uh, Bill, is his name
of his manager.
And he goes in there and he said, and Bill says, uh, so, uh, we got this package to her with
the flaming lips and
Isaac Brock says, yeah, I like the flaming lips.
He says, yeah, me too.
So they got like bubble machines
and a human hamster wheel
and a flatable robots.
A bunch of inflatable robots and stuff.
And I just don't want you to get, you know,
sort of blown off the stage by these guys.
And then Isaac Brock goes,
well, I got this Tony Hawk material
that's going to kill.
People are going to say,
Giant Hamster Ball, who?
People love me because I'm relatable.
Isaac Brock says.
Tony Hawk's a great guy.
Most people have at some point alienated Johnny Marr, right?
Isaac Brock's relatable.
Sure.
He's a relatable guy.
Well, the counteract, the stage banter that's just trashing Tony Hawk, we three are on
mic just, you know, lionizing Tony Hawk.
He's the best.
I have not met him.
Oh, you know, I did see him at, like, from very far away on stage at, speaking of Paul Rubens,
the Pee We's Big Adventure, Sinusby.
thing.
So he was very far away.
And I didn't know he's going to be there.
I was like, wow, Tony Hawk!
See?
Super cool.
I mostly just want to talk about, I mean, Tony Hawk would be super cool, but I also,
if I ever meet Rodney Mullen, I really want to ask him if he's ever done like Alexander
technique because, anyway.
Because he's more of a Felden-Crasse guy.
He's, I mean, some of his, I mean, I know you're talking about it.
Anyway, him and Mitchie Brescoe, I feel like the technical, like, granular sort of like analysis
that they do.
Can I just say that if I knew the name of even one skateboarder besides Tony Hawk, I would have said they were really into ralthing?
I don't.
I got no other skateboarders.
Okay.
Let's take another call.
Hey, Jordan Jesse Go.
This is Laurel from Seattle again, calling in for your segment taglines for our themed months where we submit taglines for the months with Jordan Jesse Go that are themed.
My submission tonight is for anal-August, tagline should be get in while you can.
Thanks.
Yeah, that's a good tagline.
Sure.
But we're deep in September to remember.
Holly, we have a holiday that I guess we didn't really celebrate this year.
We mentioned it in passing, but we didn't really get into it.
Right.
Should to speak.
We have a holiday called Analogist, basically.
on a funny sign.
Yeah, and it's sort of a celebration of trying new things.
It doesn't have to be, you know, sexual, doesn't have to be scatelized.
It can be.
It can be.
You can put it something in a butt.
Sure, as long as it's new.
As long as you've never put something in there before.
And we have to remember without a base without a trace.
Yes, it's new.
It's clean.
And it has a flared base.
If you're going to put it in your butt.
Go for safety for safety.
For safety.
And pleasure.
And pleasure.
And pleasure.
Nothing more pleasurable than being.
safe and nothing more i say nothing more pleasurable than the flare at the base of a thing that's
in your butt because if god didn't want us to do butt stuff he wouldn't have put all the nerve
endings outside of our butt where the where the base presses sure yes this is why it's so
pleasurable yes as he heel 35 14 my favorite bible verse and the meek shall inherit the nerve endings
upon the upon the outside of their butt which which
the flare, which she'll be, yes, so sayeth we all.
Yeah, okay, so if you got a call, you can just call us 206, 984-4-Fund, or just send us a voice memo at J.J.Go at maximum fun.org.
But can I just say real quick, not you, Billy.
We've already gotten enough calls from you, voiceover, legend Billy West.
And we know that wasn't Fry calling us.
That was you.
That was you.
And you know what?
That goes for you, Maurice LaMarche.
Thank you.
And John DiMaggio.
A whole gang.
That's all I have.
Sure.
And you.
Carrie Kenny Silver's dad, who was Y&O in Thundercats.
That's enough random voiceover artists bulls, I think.
No, let's do a couple more.
I don't know.
I think that's the, based on my experience at cons, that's what nerds like, is naming the names of the voiceover actors.
from something.
So I think we're popular now.
Oh, good.
Jason Marsden.
Jason Marsden.
I love Jason Marsden.
Had a big crush on him.
Which one was he?
He was the voice of Binks in Hocus Pocus.
And he was also like an on-camera actor.
And there was a, like a, I think it was ABC or Disney.
I wasn't super allowed to watch it, but sometimes I would just catch it.
But it was a, I think it was a multi-camp sitcom called the Torkelsons.
Okay.
And he was, speaking of rich kids, it was like an Oklahoma mom, single mom takes her kids
to go be a living nanny for this super rich guy and his kids.
Hold on.
That is very incongruous.
Well, comedy hijinks ensue.
Was she a fish?
Because this new family does not sound like water.
Speaking of water, she was also not hydrated.
They were very hot.
See, it came back around.
The show is good.
It's a good show.
Because Holly did something good.
Dear Governor, I heard a show and it's good.
Give it an award.
It's called Jordan Jesse Go.
I type like this.
Yes.
That's how you write to the governor.
Wait, sorry, I just put off the audio medium.
So let me just.
Oh, God.
There you go.
Okay, now the-
That's how I type.
That's how the typing is happening.
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try and do this promo with British accents?
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Let's do it.
Okay, if you go.
Boy, bro, this is TV chef, Fantasy League.
Fanta League.
Okay, Sierra.
We take cooking competition shows and treat them like fantasy sports.
Like a newscaster.
Very posh.
Right now, we're doing the Great British Bake Off or the Great British Baking show
if you're listening from the US.
Oh, that was really soothing.
You chose like a priming proper.
Thank you.
Out in Abbey.
Thank you.
Okay, I think you have the best accent.
You want to take us home.
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It's Jordan Jesse Go.
I am Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart.
Jordan Morris Boy, Detective.
Holly Cho, day guest.
Do you think you had a crush on Jason Marsden because he was Goofy's son or because he was
Nirmal and Garfield?
Two iconic roles.
Yeah.
Name a more iconic duo.
I'll wait.
Oh, that's right.
The Goofy movie was like a big thing for maybe.
like people that was it's one of those like people a little bit younger than me i think a little bit
younger for me either maybe it was people around me but didn't happen to to like get struck by that
particular bolt of lightning sure yeah i think uh it isn't central to the goofy movie people that
people seeing goofy and goofy son as as being african-american you know i think there's i think
I think the goofy movie apparently contains multitudes.
Right.
I think it is a real inkblot of a movie.
Okay.
From what I understand.
And yes, I think you can read many experiences upon the goofy movie.
I saw the goofy movie in the theater with my father and my little brother John.
And I remember nothing about it at all.
Okay.
Zero about it at all.
I remember there was a, they had like an estranged.
It wasn't estranged, but they were having trouble as father and son.
So Goofy was trying to like reach out to his, his rebelling son.
And part of this was like the son wanted to go see a prince-like concert.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You see a lot of power line merch now.
And that's their like Prince Analog guy.
And Polly Shore was a friend.
I don't remember if Polly Shore was the friend of the kid or the friend of the dad.
Like, was this an adult or a kid character?
I do not remember.
But it was Polly Shore.
Polly Shore was the star of movies.
He was.
And I guess now, and at some point you stuck him in animated movies to make them more cool.
I think this was stun casting.
I think this was like, Polly short.
Listen, when it comes to goofy, sorry, some people out there aren't going to like this.
Sorry, there's a bunch of snowflakes out there who aren't going to like what I'm about to say.
If it's a goofy thing and he's not learning to ski by listening to a record, I ain't interested.
I just want to see him listen to a record and learn to ski.
All I can say is this.
If there's a father, child, African-American animated feature film that you're watching,
it'd better be babies, kids.
That's my preferred.
Sure.
I think these characters we're doing are going to become very popular.
Yeah.
These are really popular characters already.
Telling it like it is.
I just got a hundred letters.
Wow.
On my phone.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, I have a service that opens my letters and emails them to me.
Gatekeeping African-American.
media.
Yeah, exactly.
Bay Baye's kids is my preferred.
Baye's kids.
Yeah.
Holly, what do you got in the hopper?
What's coming next?
So, at the end of this month, I am now going to do L.A.
Comic-Con.
Holly.
Woo-hoo.
Me too.
You can see both of us in one building.
You need any NPR hosts there?
Just me.
It's just a panel discussion with me and Kai Rizdahl.
You can just moderate.
Just stay in a room and anybody that comes in all that day, you're just moderating everybody.
Yeah, great.
Moderate.
Moderate.
I can, I got some information for people if they want to see me.
I'm going to be there in Artist Allie at table J.O.7.
Here's a fun way to remember it.
Jack off seven.
That's a fun.
That's what we call a new monic.
Okay.
So if you're like, where's Jordan?
You're like they're going to remember the J.O. part and not the number seven.
Yeah, you know, you're right.
This might not be the best mnemonic.
You got to add to the imagery so that they remember.
it's jacking off seven
seven brides for seven brothers and seven brides for seven brothers
and don't just go in there and ask where the jackoff section is
because there's a lot of anime figurines they're going to point you towards that's
J.O.7.
J.O.7. What's in the box? Yeah. And on Saturday, I'm going to do a panel
on room 407 at 1 p.m. come to see that and every day at the table
I'm going to have another special guest with me. So it's going to be fun. I'm going to have
some fun buds.
It's join me at L.A. Comic-Con.
And Holly will be there as well.
I will be tabling on the Friday and the Saturday with giant-sized productions.
Yes.
So the booth number is 8-6-7.
So a great way to remember this if you need a mnemonic is 86-7.
So Jordan is like, you know, jack-off seven.
And then my booth comes along.
It's like 86 that.
86 to jacking off.
You're in public.
Well, at least to seven.
Right.
Just keep it modest.
And I'm like, where's the big tit anime figures?
That's what I say.
Everywhere, Jesse.
They are everywhere.
I went with my child.
It's really uncomfortable.
Listen, everybody's going to have a very easy time remembering this.
Yeah.
Because of the helpful mnemonics we've laid out today.
My brother was just complaining about our mothers.
The figures, tits being too small.
I will never forgive you, Jesse.
Yeah, like her mnemonics is like, well, it's easy to remember.
because when a man is 24, he remembers when he was 13.
And my brother's like, you could slot in any numbers.
That doesn't help you remember the numbers.
Men remember all ages.
I remember how to ask what time it is in Spanish because there was a commercial that played on sports talk radio where like a guy said to a lady,
if you want to know what time it is in Spanish, you only need two letters.
And then the lady said two letters.
And the guy said, yeah, K or a.
Oh, okay.
I get it.
Yeah.
That's fun.
Yeah, that's really fun.
That's good.
There was also those breath ashore ads where they went,
George Kennedy!
I mean, I still know how to get to Cerritos Auto Square.
Thank you, where I grew up.
You go 605 to South Street.
I found out, by the way.
You have to sing it.
Or you're going to get sued.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You take 605 to South Street.
Cerritos Auto Square.
I was looking up George Kennedy for Breath Ashore.
I was sure that he was, that he did radio commercials for Garleek brand garlic tablets.
Yes.
I remember those.
But I think it must have been someone else that did the garlic brand garlic tablets because I could not find them.
And I thought maybe it was Breath Ashore.
I looked at Breath Ashore.
Breath of Shore was like, there will be a season of American Crime Suar.
story about the history of breath ashore, which apparently, like, so the idea was it was
like a pill that prevents bad breath from the inside out.
So you'd swallow it and then it solves your bad breath problems.
But here's the thing.
Most bad breath is in your mouth.
It's not in your tum-tum.
Yeah.
And so they just made up that it worked.
And they went from like manufacturing it themselves at home, you know, and like passing it out
on the street to like tens of millions airs that had it on the street the the shelves of every
store in like 18 months or something like that and then like three years later they were in jail
for like false breath assuring i suspect i don't know but i kind of imagine that the same arc
that it would be a similar arc to like the five-hour energy people or the head-on to reply directly
to the forehead like franchise legacy whatever
I feel like it's all going to be kind of similar Menendez brothers' like scandal.
Yeah, I mean, I think five-hour energy drink works because that's just an almost deadly amount of caffeine.
Like, that's a pretty straightforward product.
Well, the words almost deadly lend themselves to some sort of.
That's true.
I will say this, and this is not funny, but my entire family was blinded by blue blockers.
Sun blue blockers.
They were these sunglasses that I guess were good for you.
you because they blocked out the color blue.
Yeah.
My family was not blind.
My family was fine.
They didn't have blue blockers.
And it's kind of cool.
They did have a lot of blue blockers.
Yeah.
I wanted to hear how this led to blindness.
Oh, it did.
They're fine.
My family sees great.
They couldn't see a blue obstacle and therefore walked into it eyes first.
Right.
And we're all blunt.
Oh, yeah.
There was like a man on the street testimonial, uh, commercial for blue blockers that were
one of the man on the street testimonials was like a husky guy that
rapped about blue blockers.
Oh, I remember.
of the guy. And all I can ever think
when I see a blue blocker or whatever, all I can
think is, I got my son, blue blockers,
which is the last line of this rap.
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