Jordan, Jesse, GO! - Uncs and Dreamboats, with Diallo Riddle

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

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Give a little time for the child within you. Don't be afraid to be young and free. Undo the locks and throw away the keys and take off your shoes and sex and run you. It's Jordan Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne. America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris Boy Detective. How are you doing, my friend? I'm doing pretty good. I'm pretty deep into a dark Pinocchio fantasy. Is this a sexual fantasy?

No, no. It's a video game fantasy that's, you know, a little bit sexy. but it's one of those video games I mean if he's lying it's sexy Sure Oh yeah Oh let me tell you Jesse You can't trust this guy Yeah

It's one of those You know when you're playing a video game And someone asks you what are you playing Yeah And it's something you're embarrassed To describe to them Uh huh And I'm just gonna describe it for you in our audience

Not like one of the really cool video games that you're playing You know it's something like I think there's yes obviously Like describing any video game To somebody is like a little bit embarrassing What are you playing? I'm playing Billy I

or something, I don't know, what's cool in 2025. Yeah, I mean, I think there's like, if you said to somebody like, oh, I'm playing Baldersgate 3, right, you know, that's a big popular game. A lot of people have heard of it. It's a, you know, and there's a, if they haven't heard of it, they've heard of Balder's Gate 2. Of course. Dark Alliance. Yeah. And, you know, it's like, oh, it's a D&D Quest game and the, like, the description of it isn't baffling, you know. Right. Yeah. Hades, too, you know, oh, I've heard of that, and people are playing that. Or at least Tadie's one.

Sure, sure. Dark Alliance. And then so, but the one I'm playing, and I'm very into, is Lies of Pee, which is a dark retelling of the Pinocchio story in a soulsborn format. It's got a soulsborn? You don't mean this thing's got a soulsborn format? Jesse, it's a soulsborn format. Okay. Specifically a bloodborne format.

Okay. So there's, and so it's like, okay, okay. So, yes, just like having... I had asked for AP style, but... Right. I was talking to our buddy, John Gabris, he asked me, what do you play? And I'm, this guy knows video games. This guy knows.

He's like, what is that? I'm like, it's a dark retelling of Pinocchio. It's like that sentence. It's a dark retelling of Pinocchio. And, but here's the kicker that I think I, you want to know about, I think our audience should know about. Yeah. This is ultimately an educational program. There's an upgrade system.

where you obtain courts out there, you kill, you know, you kill zombies, you kill puppets that have undergone a puppet frenzy. Wow, puppet frenzy, that sounds dark. It is. I mean, this is a dark retelling of Pinocchio. This isn't your grandma's Pinocchio. Got it. It's all, you know, fun and games.

My grandma, by the, I didn't even know that I even mentioned to you that my grandma had a Pinocchio. Yeah. Your grandma and I are close. We talk when you're not here. Okay. Your grandma and I text. Yeah.

And so, yeah, this is. He was a bad boy. Pinocchio? No, my grandma's Pinocchio. Oh, yeah, he was. He was kind of a bad boy. We ultimately had to burn him in the hearth. Oh, well, this Pinocchio from Liza Pee, he's quite a bad boy.

Not only tells lies, but operates chainsaws. Yeah. And uses them to kill both humanoid creatures and puppets who have undergone a puppet frenzy. Right. And you are evil dark Pinocchio. You are evil dark Pinocchio. Well, morally gray, let's say. I don't want to call him evil.

A sort of anti-hero. Like a breaking bad situation. Yeah, exactly. kind of a Walter White, and he doesn't speak to, so you kind of have to, you know, like his, his reactions, his, you know, they're whatever you want them to be. He's an inkblot, you know. Right. So as you go through the game, you obtain quartz from, you know, slaying various monsters. The crystal? The crystal. Yeah. Chests. These are places you can find quartz. And you use it to upgrade your pea organs.

Okay. This is what they've called the upgrade slots in the game. So if you want more attack power, if you want, you know, to lower the amount of stamina a dodge takes, you apply quartz to your P organ. Got it. Yeah. So that's what's going on with me. You got a lot of courts? Not as much as I'd like, honestly.

Honestly, I would love to have a more upgraded P organ. Okay. Is it only, is there only one P organ or are all the organs on a P, P organs? Unclear. I think each, I think, I don't know if a pea organ is referencing, you know, your entire bundle of upgrades or if each individual upgrade is a pea organ, it's mysterious. I have a question. Yeah. Quartz. Yeah. Why this valueless mineral? I don't know. There's probably some lore I'm not getting. I should probably read more item descriptions.

Yeah. This is where you're going to get important lore. Are you not reading the in-game books? No, I'm definitely not. I don't do that. But yeah, there's a lot of, like, there's a lot of information you can get on the puppet frenzy. Got it. The Cratt Hotel, which is kind of your hub world.

There's more information you can get on this by reading the item descriptions. And, uh, yeah. Can I tell you something? Yeah. Like, as upset as I am, when I learn, for example, that the federal government is considering privileging refugee applicants who are white South Africans because they're the victim of bias in South Africa and that's why they should be allowed to be asylum seekers.

As upset as I am about that, having to read a book inside a video game upsets me more. That is the top thing that upsets me. There's a lot of nines out there that upset me nine, but 10, asking me to read a book inside a video game. If you ever make it very far inside that, Skyrim remake? So there I did Skyrim remake.

I didn't get that far inside of the remake of the Skyrim that came before Skyrim. Because my child stole the video game system and brought it to her room. Okay. I think you could say stole a video game system and sold it for drug money. Yeah. She sold it for P. Organ upgrades. Oh, yeah. Well, you got to upgrade your P.

organ. But yeah, there's so many in-game books in Skyrim, and I've dedicated hundreds of hours to Skyrim. I probably put in a thousand hours of playing Skyrim. If I even have to read one word of one of those books, like a fucking adventurer's diary or whatever, I'm down here and the goblins got me, and that's why I left my treasure trove in this location, fuck you. fuck you i'm straight to google to tell me where to go sure i will not read your book if i wanted to be reading a book i would be reading a book i would be in fucking high school whenever like a gameplay thing is like and whenever you need to have read that lore thing or like talk to that mpc to understand what to do next i'm just like fuck it i will get a dutch guy

to explain it to me on youtube why are they all dutch i don't know are they dutch i don't know are they dutch They sound Dutch. Some might be Hungarian. They sound Dutch. Some could be Hungarian. I've never been to Holland. Our guest on the program, Jordan. Our guest on the program is not just behind the wonderful podcast, one song.

One of my favorite podcasts that I like to listen to, although I didn't finish the Fall Out Boy episode. Because it didn't quite bring me around on Fallout Boy. Sure. I'm not quite there either. He is also the co-creator of two of the fun. funniest and best television programs of recent years, Sherman's Showcase and Southside. Diallo Riddle. Hi, Diallo.

Hey, thanks for having me. You like to read an in-game book? You know what's funny? Listen to you guys talk about this. I'm reminded that, like, I was like, I'm not playing anything now. My son plays Baldergate 3. And it's funny because I saw him, like, building his character. And he gave a distressingly large bus, like, really big.

How's the P-Oregon? How large would you say the pee organ is? Normal, normal size, normal size. But it can engorge. Well, sure, depending on how much quartz you get. I did go to his mom and I was just like, you know, I didn't want to say anything, but like his character has gigantic boobs. So this is not a game I've played.

Is there a boob slider? Can you slide up the boob? There's no way that that is the default boob on that game. Yeah. You're saying you don't think the designer designed these boobs. This is something your son has chose to customize. Yes. And so, like, admittedly, like, the kids sort of took over the consoles from us at some point. So, like, now they play way more than we do.

So I'm used to building avatars and, like, deciding on this is how the eye is going to look and all this kind of stuff. But, like, I saw that character. I was just like, whoa. Like, you just seemed like, you know, we used to, like, draw our dream girl, you know, when I was growing up. But, like, now you just put it in the avatar. I'm just, again, I have not played Balders Gate 3. Given your son the benefit of the doubt, is there a stat reason for making the jugs that big? Like, does it upgrade your dexterity?

It's good for power attacks. It increases charisma quotient or something. Yeah, like maybe so. Dex bill, but a sex bill? I have a longstanding opinion that I stand behind that if you are in a video game where you design the character, there's only three options. One is the default option. One is try and make it look like you. Yeah.

One is make it look like Mr. T. That is the video game thing. I also don't want to read an in-game book, but I do not want to customize a guy. Oh, I don't want to customize a guy. It's so hard. It's so much work. And the guy looks bad. I make it look bad.

I'm bad at it. I don't know how close together its eyes should be. There is in Lies of P. there is a fair amount of... I have so many questions about this Pinocchio. Oh, the Dark Pinocchio Fantasy? Yes. One of...

So there is a little bit of like outfit customization and the outfits don't have stat boosts, right? So you're not getting defense based on your outfit. It's purely cosmetic. You're just catching a boner off that. Well, yeah. One of the options for his outfits is Santa hat. So that's what I did.

That's kind of cool. I have so many questions. Yeah, sure. I can... This is not going to be. because of lies is lies of pee? Lies of P. It's not going to become the Lies of P podcast. It might as well. We don't have anything else prepared.

Okay, so clearly this is the case of public domain. Like, I assume Pinocchio is just owned by anybody now. Yeah, I think you can make a dark Pinocchio fantasy any fucking time you want. I actually put that into a script one time. I was saying that I always grew up with the family that was kind of like the black royal tanen bombs. Like everybody was like very sort of like in their own lane, very, you know, very intelligent. and actually probably overeducated,

but kind of quirky in their own way. And I remember that I said that what we would call in this green running business, the inciting incident is that this family has always been sort of insulated and protected because nobody had to work for a living. It turned out that their grandfather had written a song that's basically like Sweet Georgia Brown.

And this was the year that that went into the public domain, so suddenly their spigot has been completely cut off and these weirdos had to go out in the world and actually support themselves. Honestly, incredibly good news for the Harlem Globetrotters. Good inciting incident. The fucking overhead for the Harlem Globetrotters just dropped by 40%. They're getting LeBron-sized salaries now, apparently.

Yeah, I love the idea of the public domain. It's somebody who tries to write scripts. Like, I'm always kind of like checking like, is that in the public domain? Because there's something, the lost world? Is there something like, you know, and I would assume that in the Pinocchio world, in the Pinocchio, in the P universe. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry.

I don't know what I was talking about before. Like, Jimney Cricket, he's a Disney character, right? Wait, the light or dark P. Universe. This is not the Snyder. We're talking about dark, yeah. Strictly Snyder. A lot of slow-mo, sure. Jimmy Cricket, did he come out of the Disney Pinocchio?

Or is he in the books, do we know? He's not in the game, I assume. There is a little kind of like fairy character called Jimmy or something. That I think is supposed to remind you of Jiminy Cricket. I think Jiminy Cricket was specifically created for the movie. I think that is a movie element. And they just kind of hung around because of his popularity. Yeah.

He's sort of like the first genie. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know anything about the actual story of Pinocchio. I think I, this familiar story, I was scared by the movie as a kid. It's terrifying. Because it's terrifying. Oh, yeah.

When you go to the island, all those boys start turning into donkeys. Those bad boys? Oh, those boys were so bad. Dude. And they turned into, but were they bad enough to deserve? being turned into donkeys and crying for their money. They were breaking chairs. Pretty bad. That's pretty bad stuff in 1939.

That's not stuff I would have gotten up to. I need those chairs to sit in. Yeah. The most I would have smoked a cigarillo. Yeah. But I didn't, yeah, so I think I was scared of it as a kid and then engaged with no Pinocchio media until Lies of P. Which I'm enjoying.

You didn't even read the novelization? I didn't. Even though there's additional Geppetto backstory. You didn't watch the webisodes? No, I didn't. This actually begs the question. Lies of PSI. We know that that's a fucking classic, and, you know, it's going in all the time capsules.

Yes. But has there ever been, like, you know, we all heard about those Winnie the Pooh movies that came out when that went. Has there been? Jesse's seen them, right? I've only seen one of them. I saw the first. The first one, blood and honey. Which, as I said on this program, I mean, I am not a horror movie watcher.

And the movie was pretty bleak. However, that having been said. Bleak philosophically or bleak creatively. Nobody goes out of view for philosophy. Bleak philosophically. I was shocked at how competently made it was. Like, the actors in it do a genuinely good job. There's no amateurish performances.

It, like, looks good. The character looks good and genuinely creepy. I mean, it's like a weird idea, but, like, It is genuinely, it is well executed, I would say. For like a garbage movie, it is very well executed. But my poor wife, my daughter is now 14 years old, and she's obsessed with this stuff. Really? Completely obsessed.

Horror or Winnie the Pooh? She loves horror. She, uh, yeah, she's just, she was really into the new adventures of Winnie the Pooh, and she's like, give me anything. I sing all the freaking time. What's the song? The song, is time? to get up it's time to get going I'm gonna see a friend of mine

he's warm and he's cuddly I love him because he's just poo bear waiting for you there That's really good All when he's winning the poo I literally sang it to my kid the other day Because it starts with those great lines It's time to get up

It's time to get go If you had to wake up an 8 year old You're gonna like You're gonna do a parody song For your 8 year old to get them out of the door My daughter doesn't watch A ton of horror movies these days but she's obsessed with the idea of them

and this dark cinematic universe is dark childhood cinematic universe is what they call it is she needs to watch it so like they release these movies like in those kind of like the way that they release like an anime movie or a riff tracks presentation yeah you see it that's one or two theaters

and it's like simulcast and it's mainly on streaming though yeah but my dark Assists on going, like, she will mark time by when the, like, evil Peter Pan movie is coming out. Peter Pan caught astray with the Chippendales movie. Yeah. You know, my kid was just like, oh man, they just ruined my childhood because he loved Peter Pan as a kid. What's the take?

I saw that movie, but I kind of forget it. What's the take on Peter Pan? I mean, I guess. Is he bad in that? If you haven't seen the Chippendales movie and you don't want the ending spoiled, skip ahead 15 seconds. It's Peter Pan is a villain. Okay. There you go.

And it's sort of a twist villain. And, you know, he's a bad guy. Okay. You know, but here's the thing. So there's a whole name for this, the dark universe. The dark childhood cinematic universe. So there's a Peter Pan one. There's a...

A Bambi, right? There's a Bambi. How bad can Bambi get? Gore you with horns. I mean, think about it. Like, the Bambi one... See, D.Rest, those things are terrifying. The Bambi one is the one that makes the one that makes the...

most natural sense to me. I mean... Which one? The Bambi one. Like, there's a challenge of how do you make a deer, the protagonist of a low-budget live-action film? And I don't know how they saw that because I did not see that one. But I will say that, like, the idea that they slaughtered Bambi's family and then Bambi goes on a rampage is a pretty straightforward make sense I do.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Emotionally, that one makes the most sense. Honestly, like, the Winnie the Pooh one that I... I saw, the premise is that, like, Winnie the Pooh, the first one only had Winnie the Pooh, because Winnie the Pooh was the only character that had passed into public domain by that, I think. Can't have sexy Eeyore. Yeah. Unfortunately.

It was like, maybe sexy piglet is like a, that's redundant. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's redundant. Guys already sexy. Look at him. A little tail. A little corkscrew.

Ooh. Ooh. Oh, I want to get in there. Maybe it had a piglet in it It didn't have Tigger I think it didn't have Tigger That was the thing That's probably for the better

But that cocaine But like the premise Is that way he bounces Cocaine? I had no idea The premise of that one Was that Winnie the Pooh Had turned evil

With his other friends Because Christopher Robin had loved him so much But then abandoned him When Christopher Robin became an adult And so they like Curl story ripoff. Sure.

Yeah, it was like sort of a tour story. But like, honestly, I bought it in the movie. Like, when I'm watching this movie, like, there are things about the movie. Like, the movie is so relentlessly grim. Like, I don't, it's just not my thing. But, like, that emotional center of the story, I was like, that's weird. This is working for me. Without, without spoiling it, who is poo killing then?

He's, like, killing Christopher Robinson's family. Christopher Robin and his friends. Uh-huh. Like, they go out to, they, like, get an Airbnb in the woods or whatever. And he's, he's a, he's a, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, targeting Christopher Robin and his friends and he has like a you know an abandoned warehouse appetoir and all that kind of stuff again like not a good movie I don't recommend watching it however if you're going to watch a Winnie the Pooh horror movie you could do a lot

worse there's probably eight or nine of them honestly yeah I want to see your to do list has there been anything you've like Winnie the Pooh horror film Jell has there been anything you've had to like dive into because your kids are into it other than like I mean I feel like most of the things that I'm into. I'm into because at some point the kids were like, I mean, you know, I had my own anime phase with like Yersei Yatsura and all that stuff that we were watching in like the early 90s, but then, you know, I sat there and I watched every episode of Naruto. I watched the full series on Attack on Titan. I actually will swear by, I think it's season five. There's an episode in season five with a scene that's so intense. I'm like, this rivals anything

I've ever seen when Tarantino's at his best. Okay. Literally, like, there's a character that you freaking hate, but you don't want them to die who has a knife to a character that you don't really care about, and then all the characters you do care about are about to make a horrible decision. Like, I was just like, I am fully invested in this. This is, like, just a different way. I try, I, I'm, I think Jesse and I are both kind of like anime occasionals, right?

Yeah, that's fair. And I try to attack on Titan, the nude giant military drama. How far did you get? I got, did I get through a season? I might have gotten through a season. And then, you know, and I, and I liked a lot of it. It is very grim. It is very intense.

But very cool. The fucking fighting is awesome and the theme song is fucking rad. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. My kid wanted to take Japanese lessons so you could sing Sasagio, you know, like the whole thing. But there's just like, I'm like, there's just one episode that's a military trial. And I'm like, you know, I think the pacing of this is just too. weird for me. I think I'm just, I think I, I, did you find that you couldn't handle the truth?

You know, baby that's it. Maybe I just wanted to stay a sheep in the flock, man. I will say they did something in season three, which I don't like. I think it was season three, which is, the Giants put on clothes. A little slacks. Season three, they went out of their way to describe, like, way too much lore, and it started to feel like an information drop. I hate that. I hate it when, like, you just get way more back. Like, we don't need to know everything. You have to understand that anime fans, and my eight-year-old is a big anime kid, all they want is lore. Like, these episodes don't make sense. Like, they're not, like, narratively coherent. They have some cool-looking parts and a bunch of lore that you can list to your dad later.

You know, I, maybe I bought it. Are we talking specifically about tack-on or all anime? I've seen that. I've seen a little bit of that one. I've seen a little bit of Naruto, a little bit of One Punch Man. Yeah, I think they're all different. You know, like One Punch Man could not get into it all. Naruto sort of lost me around season three.

One Punch Man is kind of amusing. That one is a little bit like, that one is a little bit like anime Venture Brothers. Like where a big part of it is just like, hey, there's this funny superhero I thought of. I do feel like I can kind of sort of hang with anime people because the one that I did. did get into that worked for me was Jiu Jetsu Kaysen. Oh, my, my middle kid's favorite one. Yeah, absolutely. I thought, uh, I did find some of that stuff that we mentioned to be true and that

there's just like big lore dump episodes that are hard to follow. But the cool shit, the cool shit is so unbelievably deal in it that I'm like, yeah, fine. I'll listen to how curses work against anti-curses if it means that like guys are going to punch through each other's mouths. Listen, I, I can't agree with you more. personally I admit I love the lore And I like it to a certain point I guess I just I have a breaking point

Well I guess there's You know I guess that's why it's hard right Because there's no hard and fast rules I just said I didn't like that they felt the need to explain everything Sure But then there were other things that they definitely didn't need to explain That I fucking loved Like I loved it when they had a whole episode

Breaking down the individual equipment That they used to like on attack on to like swing through the buildings and slash these guys from behind. I love that episode. I'm not even a gear guy. You like a Tom Clancy anime. I'm serious, I really dug it. I think, you know, it's really case by case.

Like, when, what direction do we go deeper on? Right. I think that's totally legit. By the way, Naruto, I think, sort of suffered from, you know, just, eventually became, I was never a huge, huge fan of, and I'm going to get hate mail for it. I was never a huge fan of, like, those kung fu movies that they would show in certain cities

on Saturday morning after the cartoons because I was like there's just a lot of fighting you know like there's not enough plot here to sort of like whole like you know even with Godzilla like I would usually skip the first half of Godzilla just so I could get to the monsters fine because I just I wasn't into like How are you learning about Japan's national trauma?

I was like okay so this guy is fighting this guy because one's a spy and the other ones let's get to the monsters you know like I think it's just it depends on what you want to get into in Narutjo, which is one I have not engaged with. I realize it's huge and I realize that there's a run you can do. Oh, yeah. I know that there's running.

Yeah, he runs and he puts his hands back. And then when they were doing the, what is it, Area 51 thing where they were like, we're going to find out if the aliens are in there. They're like, you know, thousands of us doing the Naruto run. They can't kill us all. And like the military is like, we can kill you all. So they actually ended up boarding. But I, can I talk about just fandom real quick?

Sure, please. what's cool about anime and what's cool about I was such a comic book growing up like to this day I can remember exactly where I was when I was going through the stacks and I found amazing Spider-Man number 25 first appearance of Mary Jane Watson Parker and the spider slayer I found it at a swap meet uh on old national highway in Atlanta and the guy was selling it for five dollars it wasn't a reprint wow and he just didn't know what he had in that box a lot of junk a lot of junk of that box but to like 15 year old me can't just move out or something he's like I got to get rid of And it's, I still can't believe I bought that comic for five.

Action Comics won. Get this out of here. I literally have dreams where I'm, like, at a flea market, and I find, like, a Greg Jeffrey's rookie card. I find that, is that your thing? Is that your thing? Is that your thing? Is that your thing?

And I'll be like, I'll wake up and I'll be so mad. Why is that real? I don't know. Haven't bought a baseball card in 30 years. I would buy Dale Murphy. That was my guy. I grew up in Atlanta. So I would definitely, you know, I actually put Dale Murphy into a script with the schoolboy hopes that I will actually get to meet, you know, the forgotten brave legend.

That guy is supposed to be a good guy, right? He's such a good guy. I actually, I admittedly, I looked it up, I was like, Dale Murphy alive. And he had been on a podcast like a year ago. Dale Murphy homophobe? Sadly, I don't want to know everything. Dale Murphy vaccines? Vaccines what think of?

Dale Murphy doing his own research. Oh, no. Darn it. Have scenes instead of? You're making a larger point about fame. Yeah, I just think that, like, comic books, anime, I've even gotten into Bravo. I've gotten into all the reality shows. Because I will make the case.

And maybe I'm preaching to the choir, I don't know. But in my opinion, to go, I've gone to, like, some events and, like, not BravoCon, but like some Bravo con style events. So this is stuff like Housewife shows. Yes, it's, um, Vanderpump's, Vanderpumpurr's, it can be the traitors, it can be, like, it can be so many different things from that world, but, you know, if, um, you know, the Real Housewives is sort of like the hub of that universe. It's like, we're all the things. So, but you go to those things and they talk like the people who I was hanging out with at comic book conventions.

They'll be like, oh, yeah, well, you know, Dorinda did this in season one, but that was before they had, it's like, it's like, before Durinda got the black suit. Yes, exactly. Totally. And that was exactly. Yeah, the symbiote attached to her on Battleworld. Totally. It's before Durinda got the black suit. It's totally that. And I respect it.

And these people come in, they're larger than life. And in some weird way, they're kind of like, you know, female superheroes as well. They have, like, these ridiculous ball gowns on all the time. They are essentially a superhero for a different kind of fan. Do you have a top housewife? Oh, gosh, I did not know as good. Top Housewife, City, maybe? Okay.

This is going to sound like a chance. cheat. Can I name two? You can name two. So somebody came into the housewife universe, but she was already Fittanyce Richards was amazing on Real Housewives of Beverly Hill. She was amazing. Denise Richards was a housewife? She was a housewife on Beverly Hills. I just watched the 30

Rock with Denise Richards. She did a great job where she's a representative of all dumb people. She's outstanding. She's outstanding to watch. There was one time she got so drunk she put her jacket on upside down. That's a good thing. So it looked like she had a short jacket with a long cape it was the funniest thing

and she was just like and everybody's like are you gonna get home okay or she's like you're gonna get home okay like I'm telling you these shows are way better than I think so I think it's easy to be like oh real housewise you're sort of judging them based on how they probably were like 20 years ago but like at this point like okay so to really answer your question if I if I'm going hardcore into who's my favorite right now

darn I feel like it might be Mary cause don't fuck this up I know Well, because I run into them sometimes. We will definitely know who you're talking about. I still DJ sometimes. DJ Meredith from Salt Lake City is out there. We've met before, and I think she's really making a serious go with this DJing thing. But right now I'm going to say it's Mary Cosby, which I would have never thought I would say,

because in the first season of Real Housewives of Salt Lake, she was unbearable. I was like, who is this crazy person? And now she's just like, she's one of the best written characters in her brain. And she's always in character. You know, like, they went to, like, this Airbnb, and Mary Cosby was just like, this place is haunted. And if you know who that character is, like, she's never happy. She'll always find something wrong.

I really do enjoy watching them. One of them has a DJ career? So Meredith Marks. I think many of them probably have DJ careers. Well, a lot of them have singing careers. Okay. Like, you know, I feel like one of the ones on Miami has a song called Miami's Hot Hot, hot foiego foiego and i'm like it's embarrassing that she speaks spanish and yet i know more

spanish than her song you know like this is insane uh i've jokingly said we should do a hey blake we should do a one song episode on miami's hot and just let that be um yeah i think that they all have a lot of them have singing careers not many of them have truly pursued djing mered margith marks is trying to be a dj she was in uh the west hollywood parade uh over the summer i want to say i have a question this is This is based on the career of our friend, Dave Holmes. Yeah. Dave was an MTV Vijay.

But being an MTV Vijay did not pay enough money to live on. Wow, I did not know that. Yeah, like he was literally not, did not have enough money from being an MTV Vijay to have an apartment. Why is MTV like Amazon? You know, we should not be funding. Yeah. We should not be funding the... Rob Deerick is on the street.

Food stands for MTV VJs. That's wrong. Matt, what's his name, had to pee in bottles? At Pinfield? Yeah. While he was spouting facts about rock music.

Who made these decisions? Was it Loader? Yeah, was the one. Loader was the one. So Dave and Jesse Camp, who was like his counterpart in the want-to-be-a-D-J contest,

would do nightclub appearances on the weekends. Like every weekend they would fly to Nashville. or Des Moines or somewhere and they would get paid $3,000 or whatever just to appear at a night they had no act

they had they would just go there and just be there and just be there yeah like wave at from the DJ booth 2000s this was what was this this was in the late 90s 2000 sounds right or maybe early 2000 that was the golden era of appearance fees sure

you know that was that was how that was how the Kim Kardashian sort of came to be. It was just like, we will pay you 10 grand just to be at this nightclub. Yeah, that's what we need. As a nightclub DJ, as a still sometime nightclub DJ, Diallo, we need you recruiting people to make appearances and getting them paid. I mean, obviously, we need to bring us in. Oh, yeah. We got a hot crowd.

Yeah, sure. The one time I DJed the Golden Globes after party. Wow. This is 2008. Did you have a friend in the Hollywood Foreign Press? I actually got it. I don't even remember who. Oh, I know.

I think there was a woman at Universal. I did the premiere for Marley and me. Uh-huh. Oh, I bet that party was wild. It just occurred to me. I DJed that party, and now it makes sense to me why they were like, you got to get people dancing. You got to get people dancing.

That's a dog movie, and I imagine turns into a dead dog movie, right? It's a sad movie. I know a guy who's like, I literally can't watch that movie. I was doing the Golden Globes, and if you know anything about my mom, which you don't, hopefully. I heard she's a wonderful woman. You're like, you're like, never met her. You know, I wanted her to see a bunch of celebrities. I wanted to see her a bunch of stars.

So I told the people, the organizer, the party, I was like, hey, I'm going to bring my DJ assistant, you know, and I gave my mom's name. And so she sat there. She was already, like, in her 60s at the time. and she had her little lanyard on and you've never seen a woman beamed so much. You know, like, she, she was like, Tina Faye. She was beaming, and I was like so happy

because I ain't need no help. Tony Shaloo! The dog from Marley and me? No, I kid you not. His corpse. Alex Baldwin, like, kind of bumped in her. He's like, oh, excuse me, ma'am. And my mom was like, you know,

she was so happy. Because, you know, that was before rest. Of course, yeah. He was just a standard insane asshole You guys want to try and bump into Alec Baldwin before Rust And then come back to some more We should. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse go Love you, Love you, Love you, Love you, Love you, Love you, Love you Love You

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They ship anywhere in the world, so pre-order now at bit.ly slash cool fight. And Jesse wants me to remind you to visit his vintage store, put this on shop.com, for all your holiday shopping needs. Okay, back to the show. It's Jordan Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Street.

Jordan Morris, Boy, Detective. D.L.O. The Other Boy Detective Riddle. Wow. Nice. You know what? I consider Jordan to be the other boy detective. You know what? I'll take it. I'm just happy to be here hanging out. Yeah, where's your Sherman's showcase?

I don't have one. Yeah, he doesn't have one. I didn't make it. You've never written a parody of Guy. It's true. I never have. We actually wrote a Guy parody. you mean guy the singing group yeah i was talking about guy the singing group i also could have i also could have said orin juice jones oh there you go also something that but donald don't ever did that one

on a s andl he did a great one did a really great one uh we did a guy slash uh what would you say jodicy style more more guy though more guy or troop if you're a real head um song we did it a color a color blocked band we did it with uh fonte coleman of the band of the group little brother and we shot it we choreographed it we shot it we looked at it and we were just like man that looks like a bunch of unks that does not look the way that we intended you got to get some dreamboats in here we got to bring some dream boats but but the name of the song I want to say was like two GQ for you to envy and it was all letters uh-huh two GQ for you to envy and we thought we killed it and the song was great I mean like maybe we should I'll find Fontaine put out that

song. I feel like I know your music tastes a little bit. I think you'll like that song. You know, I love dream pop. Sure. I love all dream pop. You're a big dream pop. I can't get it up dream pop. If it's progressive. Right. If it's progressive. You want the time signatures to be unusual. Yeah, I like math dream pop. Sure. It's my preference. Technical base playing in your dream pop. Yeah. When you, by the way, Diallo doesn't know that. I mean, Dallo, you're a professional writer. You know a little something about creativity. We're also very creative. No. So, like, One of the things that we do on this show, a lot of people think, like, that we just come in here with maybe half an idea for something that happened to us this week that we wrote down in our phones. And then we just bullshit for 75 minutes. Actually, we come up with a lot of great ideas for segments. We don't. So sometimes when we run those segments, people think that they are actually hearing somebody who just wanted to call in and tell us something, but then they made up a segment that it's worth. That's not what it is. We're actually really hard workers. I believe in you. Yeah. Thank you. So here's an example. of something that we thought of that a listener's responding to us. It's not just having a listener

do our work for us. Hey, Jordan, Jesse, and Guy Branum. This is Jess from the tornado last year and also from having a really lovely earnest conversation with Jordan about being professional writers in our various fields. And he was wearing full juggalo makeup. It was wonderful. Anyway. Pause this for a second, Jordan. Just for your context, D.L. First of all, this woman called in during a hurricane. Tornado, called in from a tornado. She called in from a barn. She was trapped in a barn during a tornado, and she called in,

which is exactly what we want from a momentous occasion call. Absolutely. It's perfect. Also, Jordan and I did a show in Chicago last year where we did wear full juggalo makeup. Oh, but I was talking to this woman in Ventura. Oh, okay. I have my own life outside the show. He's got his own juggalo makeup outside the show.

You were on a juggalo surf trip. I was on a juggler. Surf Trip, yeah. Anyway, I just wanted to give you that context. Makes sense. And also... She called it an earnest conversation. Yes. Yeah. Given that...

I love to speak earnestly. Given that you didn't see our juggalo makeup, I just want to clarify that it was really, really good and perfect and not very bad, and we did not realize how hard it is to do juggalo makeup on yourself. I bet. Go ahead, Jordan. I'm calling with this segment, shit you saw on the street, but maybe didn't Warren a Jordan Jesse go call quite alone, but now you have another thing and maybe that pushes you over the

edge. Like three weeks ago, I was driving down a street and I looked to the car in my left and there was like a full on, I want to say McCall, one of those red parrots just on the driver's shoulder blocking their head from my view. It was deeply disturbing. I was going to call them that, but I didn't because I was worried. It was too basic. And then today I was driving home. home and there was a car in front of me and it had a sticker that said in the font of Shrek with like the ears over the S said slut and I was like

okay between that and the Macaw thing that has to qualify for a momentous occasion anyway love you guys see you soon bye love you too thank you thank you for giving us options it's so important to give us options please give us all call in with but of course this is a very structured The alls are just to, they're like the spice.

Of course. That's a good point. Shrek slut, huh? Yeah, I mean, that's one of those, I think we, this is probably an off-mike conversation of like, you know. Whether we've ever fucked to Shrek. Whether we've got to fuck to Shrek. And we'll never tell on Mike. I was told that this was going to be off the record.

Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Of just like things you kind of missed, right? Like cultural things that you kind of missed. I think you were giving the example of the sandlot. The sandlot versus. is Goonies.

Yes. Depending on when you were born, one of those movies is probably super beloved. And the other one's perfectly fine movie. Sure. And yeah. And Shrek is one of those. And like, Shrek's weird, for me, Shrek has such a weird meme life. I feel like I periodically see, you know, like when everybody on your social media goes

to one thing. And then you just, when you're scrolling Instagram or something, oh, everybody I know is that thing. And nobody told me. There's a Shrek rave. There's a Shrek rave. And people I know go. to it. And it looks kind of fun. And you're like, oh, sorry, I go to the rescuers race.

Right. It's just a generational thing. Yeah, exactly. I went to the aristocats. Oh, okay. Yeah. So you're like, a little bit of you. I heard that shit's wild. But you know what? It's kind of problematic these days if you look back. Maybe your friends didn't invite you because you're like, that looks kind of fun. Maybe they know you well enough. They were like, he's going to only have kind of good time. Yeah, he'll come and he'll kind of like goof on it for an hour or two and then I'll piece out little Irish goodbye from the Shrek rave. You're more into Pussin' Heels.

Yes. Yes, I am. I will always say Pussin' Boots 2, The Last Wish. That's the one about death, right? Yes, it's one of the best. That movie rips. It's so good. It's so good. And it's weird when like a kids movie

just slips in there that's not from Pixar or Disney, just slips in there, DreamWorks, I think, right? Yeah. And that is such a phenomenally, well done, well told, well, beautifully animated movie. I was talking just yesterday with Rebecca Sugar, who was a guest on the Bullseye Live show that we recorded, and she just got hired to make a Moomin's movie.

It would be an international, like, major Moomin's movie. What is a Moomin? I'm sorry. A Mooman is a, I believe, Finnish character. They sort of look like hippopotamus people. Okay. Like ghosts of hippopotamus people, is how I would describe what a Moominish. looks like.

What are the Finns drinking? They are like very... What aren't they drinking? Something with Lingenberry. They're immensely popular in Europe and in Japan. They're like monumentally huge in Europe and Japan. It's part of the collection of stuff like Tintin and Asterix, the Gaul. Oh gosh.

That like you see everywhere when you're in Europe, but we kind of sort of know what it is. We kind of passed over. Yeah. And Rebecca Sugar, of course, the total... the total mega genius behind Stephen Universe. And we were talking about how many, how hard it is to translate the aesthetics of a 2D cartoon into 3D. And like how often those 3D movies are just like,

how much stuff can we put in the frame? And the two examples of like really interesting choices in aesthetics that we were discussing were the Peanuts movie, which our friend Paul Thig was one of the main creative people behind and they really like found a way to make the 2D art of peanuts into a 3D thing

and the other one was fucking Pussin' Boots too which looks so cool like it's really about something like the idea of like what you want to do before you die and like how you want to make meaning in your life but also just like when Pussin Boots is like fucking skating off of roofs

of houses, you're like, this is fucking awesome. Man, and then when he punches a hole in someone's mouth, Jordan. Whoa, hold on. It is incredible. It really made me love the character, just in a whole new way. And it is so curated,

it's so lovingly done. I love it when you watch a movie, you're like, even if it's not your favorite movie, you're like, this is the person who made that this is one of their favorite movies. Like, this person jacks off. But this is, but this There's like one scene, and I'm not, I'm not, the internet told me this, but I went back

and I was like, holy shit, there's a scene very early on where, like, the crowd cheers for Puss and Boots. And some eagle-eye viewer pointed out, look in the back. Death is already there staring at him. And it gave me chills, because he posted it like a still friend. I was like, that's in there, and you go back and you watch that scene, and sure enough, when everybody's hands go up in the back, there's one person not reacting all in this death. And it's like, I knew person who boots was in the long legs universe.

I just knew it and this proves it. We have one more segment that we thought of. Let's hear it. Hey, Jordan. Hey, Jesse. Hey, go. I'm Laurel from Asheville and I'm calling in for your segment. What's up with the Aldi parking lot?

Can you pause this? What proportion of the people? The call-in to our show, would you say, are just super blazed. Most? Yeah, there was a thing for a while on Stop Podcasting yourself, our sister program, wonderful show that everyone should subscribe to, where they just had people call in when they got really hammered just to see what would happen. And that went really well, I think.

I think a Jordan Jesse Go listener much more likely to call in when they're fucking in the clouds. I, you know, are we? Is this a bad road to go down? Give us a call when you're blazed. 206-9844 fun. We might have some, maybe we might have some weed gummy promo codes for you in the near future. Can I say something, Jordan?

I'm concerned that those calls are going to be too slow to play. Sure. And it's coherent and not as funny as the person calling thinks they are. Let me put this out there. When you're just high as the sky on blow. Yes, that's what we want. When you are cranking it up on meth. Give us a call, because we want that velocity.

We do. We want that impact. Hi, Jordan. Hi, Jesse. I'm just like a washing machine. Really fast story. Really fast story. Rodney Dangerfield had never appeared on film before Caddyshack.

Right. But Ramos knew that he wanted him. So he was like, can you come up to Paramount so we can all meet you? And as the story goes, Ronnie Dangerfield shows up in a limo, walks into Ramos's office, out three gigantic rails of cocaine. Wow. Does them while everybody's standing there and then sits down and he's like, I ain't never done a movie before.

How are we going to do this? And they were like, you're hired. Like we have nothing else to say to you're insane. And so apparently he wasn't even lying because the first thing he ever shot is when he walks into the clubhouse and he starts insulting people like one by one. They called action

and he didn't move. He didn't even know that you move on action. Wow. He didn't even know like movie cliches. He did not know lights camera action. He was just, he was like, hey, want me to move? My Ronnie's not that bad, but I guess everybody's probably got a decent Ronnie.

Okay, I'm sorry, back to the movie. No, no, no, that was wonderful. I'll say this. I have seen, I've seen Caddyshack as an adult. It is the most incoherent movie in the history of cinema. Just total nonsense. Everyone is making a different movie that's on screen.

You know that story, right? at the same time they're making caddyshack they're basically roughly the same time they're making airplane an airplane they test every single joke you know oh that one didn't land that one didn't land that one didn't land uh caddyshack they not only

had like a way too long script that focused on the caddies you know and not on the golfers but like by the time that they were like filming the scene with Bill Murray and Chevy Chase a scene not in their already too long script like it was just like it was just throw everything at the wall and then we'll find the movie

in editing. I have to say that watching Caddyshack as an adult like Bill Murray you know, is he possibly some sort of pest? Yes. But obviously a great genius. Chevy Chase is he possibly

the worst person in show business who hasn't like murdered anyone? Yes, but like I genuinely like nothing makes me laugh harder than Chevy Chase doing Chevy Chase stuff. I'm a total Chevy Chase doing. I agree. Chevy Chase stuff fan

The early Chevy Chase has a charm My dad was like Why do you think this is funny And I didn't really know But now I go back And I'm like That's charm

Yeah We didn't know We didn't know I wish I didn't know Plummer ma'am But I like I like

What brings you to this Nape of the Woods Neck of the Wave Why are you here Why are you here? However Like Neither of their parts

In this movie Particularly worked for me As an adult man most of the movie I found boring except when Rodney Dangerfield is on screen and you're like, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life.

He's a force of nature. He's a freaking force of nature. I can't agree more. He is visiting from a Rodney Dangerfield movie. Which has never been made. And then he goes on to back to school and a bunch of movies, but this was his first.

And it's just a fucking breakout role. So anyway. We got to, should we listen to the rest of this? Yes. The Stone die was calling from Aldi, I believe. Yeah, the parking lot of Alde. Ashville, North Carolina.

Carolina beautiful country I was walking out of the store and I just see into the windshield of these people's car and it's like you know like a mid-sized crossover whatever not a Subaru and they had seat covers novelty seat covers and they both were like sepia tone and had a big like woodcut print of a train and the passenger seat said I'm a girl Earl and the driver's seat said, I'm a man. And that's what's up in the Aldi parking lot. Anyway, off I go.

Laurel, you're too stone to drive. Do not. Hang in that parking lot for a minute. Yeah. Is there a Denny's? Can you walk to a Denny's and hang out? Speaking of the hard work that we do on our show, Diallo. You think you're the only one that can get

Fonte and Thundercat to come in and work on their program? Yeah, we got Fonte and Thundercat to write that Aldi song at the end. It's going to be a hit. They will call me back. Aldi parking lot. Aldi sleeping on money. Is that a, are those

car seat headrests or whatever the caller was looking at? Are those, is that a reference to something? Yeah, I think the car seat headrest was in early 90s, alt rock fans. Yes, yeah, yeah. I probably misremembering. I thought it might be that song like, I'm a man, I'm a lover, I'm a man. Do you guys remember that song? I do. I mess with the lyrics. That one? You don't know about that song? I didn't say I remembered every

lyric. I didn't even know that you heard that song that we had rapper Big Pooh right for us. Everything you're saying makes no sense because our conversation about those people was I guess that was off my question. That's a good point. That's a good point. But hey, It's all the show, baby. Yeah. The life, our life, that's the show. You know what, at the end of the day, our life is the show. Yes.

Anything can be art, Jordan. Yes. Give us a MacArthur. Yeah, I'll take one. You know, should we get a, Jordan, this is something that Stephen never did for us. I think you could do it, though. Could you get us a MacArthur? Yeah.

Or I'll take a Peabody or a P-Oregon. Yeah, why stop there? Let's just do the whole, the EGOT. Let's EGOT. I like this. Jordan Cowling, ushering in a new era of JJ Go where we're going to go for it. EGOT. Jordan, can we get a Pigot?

That's an Emmy, a Grammy, and Oscar, a Tony, and a Polk. I thought it was a Pinocchio. Well, that's when we lie on the drudge reports. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Fuck, I don't know. Five Pinocios. Do we have a show?

Listen, hold on. Let's take a break. Yeah. Figure out if we have a show and then come back and in the show if we have it. We'll be back in just a second on Jordan Jesse Go. La La La La La La La La. Hey, I'm Jake Heath Van Stratton from GoFack Yourself. And I'm here with Max Fun member of the month, Josh Mentor, who has been a maximum fund member since 2016.

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And more. Check out Walking About with Alan McLeod on Maximum Fun. It's Jordan Jesse Go. I'm Jesse Thorne, America's Radio Sweetheart. Jordan Morris Boy Detective. The other boy detective riddle. Giala, one of the episodes of your podcast, one song that I enjoyed, was the one where you weren't familiar with the Beach Boys. Listen, man, the Beach Boys, I think there's something about the Beach Boys.

I think you have to have nostalgia for the Beach Boys a little bit. I do. I think... I will say this. So, like, when... Because I don't hear, I hear perfectly wonderful songs, and I get that he was using equipment and techniques that were new at the time. I get all of that.

But at the end of the day, I always say, like, it shouldn't... I should be able to feel it. I should be able to hear it. You know what I mean? Like, and I still can't quite hear what everybody else is hearing when they tell me, Brian Wilson's a genius. I just can't hear it. I, so on your podcast, one song, you like, uh,

break down songs, listen to their stems, which is the, like, individual tracks of the recording. The bass, the guitar, the keyboards. Right. And, and often it is, like, almost parodically pursuant to my interests. Like, it is like, like, like, I started listening because something was on the show that I was like, oh, I should listen to the night.

I like that song. And I knew your work from Southside in Sherman's Showcase. and I was like there's something that I was interested and I was like I guess maybe I should check out this podcast and then the next episode right after that was Square Biz by Tina Marie a song that I think about 24 hours a day, seven days a week and so like often it is like specifically my thing

when it is about rock stuff I generally do not know what you're talking about like it's not that's outside of my experience. Like your co-host luxury, former punk rock guy though he is sort of like a makes sort of disco-y dance music now, but like former punk rock guy, so he

knows about the clash or whatever in a way that I simply don't. But Fallout Boy is a good example. Like learning about Fallout Boys, hardcore roots. You almost made it through that episode. I almost made it through that episode, right? But the Beach Boys... By the way, one of our most popular episodes.

Yeah. It's funny to see to see like Patrice Russian's episode where we talked about you remind me amazing numbers little john um we did uh get low delight dude that dude is so funny right yeah that was a huge episode other episodes about groups that i really like we did massive attack and did tear drop which is one of my favorite songs one of blake's favorite songs could not buy a few could not buy a listener you know like i think it's to this day our lowest rated episode i'm like i don't know why like we talked i mean granted massive attack is not

Britney Spears. It's not Bruno Mars, other artists that we've covered on the show. We tend to do the clash. We tend to find a sweet spot between like the late 70s and the early 2000s. I think that's our sweet spot. That's when the stems are available for one thing. But what I was going to say about

the Beach Boys is I do not have nostalgia for the Beach Boys. I didn't like grow up listening to the Beach Boys. Like my parents only listen to like Nina Simone in Parliament. Yeah. But I like maybe as like a 24 year old or 28 year old was like I think I like the Beach Boys and then just started to listen to their weird songs about feet and I think I like the weirder eras of the Beach Boys like for example one of my favorite songs is the song Fuel Flows and it's a later era Beach Boys because I think that you know for my purposes the stuff like surfing USA and that kind of stuff it just doesn't I'm like this is perfectly cat

Great, great catchy tune. But if we're going to talk about the Beach Boys stuff that I like, it's like the later stuff. And some of the stuff that Dennis Wilson did, sort of like when he's off, you know, being Dennis on his own boat doing solo albums. So like me being a guy that has like listened to the Beach Boys a fair amount because I went through a period where I was like listening to the Beach Boys a lot. I am so far from competing with Beach Boys people. Like our friend Jordan and my friend Brian Heater

Who Jordan used to do a radio show with When we were in college Is a Beach Boys person Yeah The producer of Bullseye, Kevin Ferguson A Beach Boys person And like the depth of their knowledge About the Beach Boys is such

That like I interviewed It's more than just Kokomo you know You know those guys you did Kokomo? You want to rage? If you want a rage bait them bring up Kokomo Like I I, like, we've been putting bull's eyes onto YouTube. This is relatively new for Bullseye,

and, like, we don't have a big YouTube subscriber base. It's all in the podcast and on public radio, right? But I interviewed Al Jardine from the Beach Boys, the loveliest man in the fucking world. And, like, I talked to him about what Brian Wilson meant to him. It was shortly after Brian Wilson passed. Like, just talked to him about all these, like, really important things. And that interview, in relative bullseye terms,

like in social media clips and on YouTube has blown the fuck up. And it's because Beach Boy fans found out a different Beach Boy went ba, ba, blah, blah on one of the songs. Wow. Breaking news. I don't remember. It's like it's either that Brian did it and they thought someone else did it or that they thought Brian did it, but someone else did it.

I'm telling you, luxury said that this one thing in the song that we covered was not Brian Wilson. It was, I think it might have been now that he was. was saying it was, and the comments, the vitriol was insane because, like you said, they are all mega experts down to like the last note. It was definitely, it's definitely a culture. But I'll say this, I'm with luxury on God only knows being the most beautiful thing ever. Like, I truly, like, if I hear that, I'm like, oh, this is, this is what popular music is supposed to be. This is breathtaking. Yeah, totally incredible. Yeah, I think he says it's the song that makes him cry

every time. Yeah. We've got to get John Stamos on this show. We've got to get Stamos. Then he can tell Beach Boys stories. We can have a viral hit. Jordan, now that we're finally rid of Stephen, the incredibly nice, highly competent producer who produced the show until recently, can we finally get Stamos in here? I think it's time. And you know what? How about this?

Bring Romaine. I want Romaine Stamos in here, too. Get Becky in here. Oh, Becky. Oh, yeah. Rogue. You went rogue. What about Dave Culey?

Gullier. No way. If Dave Cooleyer wants to come on, you say cut it out. Yeah. Tell him cut it out. Do we not like Cooleyer? No, we would have Cooleyer, right? Unless Cooleyer has become weird and problematic in a way that we haven't clocked.

Cooleet have problems with Alanis. I don't, I don't know. I know maybe it's about him. Maybe it's not. This is something that it falls into that broad category of things like the clash that I know only as references are not actually from the inside out. We'll check into it. We'll Google Dave Cooleyer that scene. Cooleyer or not so Cooleyet.

We will find out. You know what? Go to the AI. Go to GROC and type, I know you're on GROC. I know you're on paid tier on Grog. Grog is like, Coalier has a suspicious last name. Yeah. Yeah, maybe don't ask GROC.

Don't ask GROC anything. Go to erotic GROC. Right. And type in Dave Cooleyer Good question mark. Coole is not Jewish. Oh, see, Crock. Crock. Crock.

That's our grok. Grock pulled his arms. That's why we give Brock that 20 bucks I'm on. Find that in the check mark. Diallo Riddle's podcast is called One Song. I really can't recommend it enough. I don't like a podcast. I'm a professional podcaster.

I don't like podcasts. I love listening to this podcast. As I now, I have to call myself a podcast. As podcasters, why are we so self-loat? We are pretty darn self-loat. First, that's someone called me a podcaster. punch them you know but now i don't want to be associated with amy polar sure i don't want to be associated with every movie star in america now i guess my go to as always i'm like hey guys

if we need more listeners i will just tell you what i really feel about the vaccines there you go where are we doing that we love them yum yum yum give me two every season yeah we eat vaccines We eat them. M num, num, num, num, num. Our theme music is Love You by the Free Design. Thanks to the Free Design. Aren't they wonderful? That's awesome.

People think that we think that they shouldn't, you should listen to the Free Design. They're wonderful. Kites. Kites are fun. Amazing. Kites are fun. 2002, a hit.

Yeah. Smash hit. Great song. Kites are fun by the Free Design is the name of the album. Thanks to Light in the Attic Records for letting us use that. Jordan Cowling, her first episode, Oh, oh, behind the boards. Welcome aboard, J.K.

Such a cool, such a cool producer. A former producer of your program. She was the first producer of one song. In fact, a lot of the DNA of our show is Jordans. Oh, that's why it's half dinosaur. I had no idea. The second I said DNA, I was like, I'm opening this up. Yeah.

To a lot of juice. You can find us on social media. We're on Instagram at Jordan David Morris at Jesse Thorne. Very famous at Jordan Jesse Go Pod. Find us on Blue Sky at Jordan Jesse Go. Facebook.com slash Jordan Jessie Go is another place you can go. We're, of course, on Reddit. Reddit. Reddit.com slash R slash Maximum Fun.

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