Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - 126 - Koalas Are Not Real Bears
Episode Date: February 3, 2026It’s an arctic theme this week. And totally by accident as Craig recalls a story about an Arctic expedition that ends with frozen body parts, wild animals, bears (both grizzly and polar), and some b...ity sharks. But it does eventually lead to the question, are Koalas real bears? Have a question for Craig? Drop him an email at: craigfergusonpodcast@gmail.com, send him a message on social media, or drop a comment below. _______________________________________________ Craig is also on the road. Dates and tickets can be found here https://www.thecraigfergusonshow.com/tour _________________________________________________ FIND CRAIG: Website - https://www.thecraigfergusonshow.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/craigyferg TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@craigy_ferg X - https://www.x.com/craigyferg Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thecraigfergusonshow ABOUT THE JOY PODCAST: Storied late-night talk host Craig Ferguson brings his interview talents and singular world view to a discussion of the modern state of JOY, sitting down with notable guests from the worlds of entertainment, science, government, and more. How's our Joy doing? Bridled? On life support? Where do we find joy in a world that seems by any rational measure to be collapsing around us? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello everyone.
Welcome to the Joy Podcast.
My name is Craig Ferguson and I am the host of the Joy Podcast today and every day.
That is me.
Not every day.
I don't do a show every day.
I did that once in my life and whilst I enjoyed it immensely, it was every day, except weekends.
And I felt like it was a bit too much.
after 10 years of doing it, I don't do it anymore.
Anyway, that's not the point.
This is a joy podcast.
I am here today, and I know what you're thinking,
Craig, look out behind you.
There's a giant horse.
It's only a painting of a horse.
It is, in fact, not a real horse,
which if you're familiar with the show that I used to do every day,
you don't know that not a real horse
is a phrase that we used because I had a companion on that show
who was also not a real horse.
this is not a real horse
but it is a painting of not a real horse
whereas the not a real horse
on the old TV show was in fact
a real not a real horse
okay so
this is the joint podcast
to give you a little history of this podcast
it used to be
it used to have guests
and then I was like ah
because trying to schedule guests is a pen in the ass
so ass I say ass
I live in New York so I say it's a pain
and a yes
So
Obviously keeping a horse in New York
Is very expensive
But this is not a real horse
So it's okay
No, it's a pain
And it's a pain in the ass
Having a guest sort of a podcast
And this week, actually
I have to do all the
All this publicity
I have a new games
We'll come out called Scrabbit
And it's a game
Well, it's out
It's started
It's 8 o'clock
on the CW on Thumbers Day nights.
Now here's the thing.
It's a game show that's based on the board game Scrabble,
and it's very like the board game Scrabble,
and one of the reasons I agreed to do it,
there were two reasons.
One, I really liked a board game Scrabble,
and two, it's a job, and they pay me,
and that's what I do for a living.
So, you know,
sue me, why that can...
Well, no, don't do that.
Anyway, the Scrabble show is going out,
and I was away working on enough,
a show and I couldn't do any publicity for it.
So I'm in New York this week
with my friendly horse
and we
together, no, just me,
I'm doing all the publicity for it and I'm doing all the
daytime shows and all
the
the radio interviews and such
like that is part of the job
of promoting a show like that.
But
also I have to do
podcasts or
have to do podcasts or get
to do podcasts. I get to do
podcasts and I'm doing some podcasts this week
and I much prefer
being a guest on other people's podcasts
than trying to corral
guests on this one and it's not
that I don't like talking to people
I actually do like talking to people
but
arranging in it
it's like you know when you try to arrange me
your friend
it's like a pain in English
it's your pain in the age
so I
um
so we can multiply that because
you know there's
you know people have schedules
and they're busy and
I just get fed out with it anyway
so this podcast
is now and forevermore
will be 100% guest free
apart from the occasional
fake horse
I'm not having guests anymore
the guest on this podcast
apart from my fingers
is you
is you
is you. You are the guest on the show.
What you do is you write in,
write an email or a text or a tweet
or a man,
an ex or a WhatsApp or whatever it is
to the Craigfragonson Show.com
or leave a comment.
If you're watching this on YouTube,
you can leave a comment there and, you know,
someday will pick it up.
Now, feel the disclosure.
I don't go on the social media anymore.
This is my social media.
This is it. This is it.
I have social.
media accounts and people do it but I would do it because anyway it's very cold
here in New York City very very cold indeed how cold is it so cold I had to bring my
voice indoors but the it's very very cold and it put me in mind of and I will
go on to your texts and tweets and emails and questions for a minute but now this is
what I'm about to tell you might not be true but it doesn't really matter anymore
if stuff is true or not, is it?
Anyway, so this might not be true, but I think it is true.
But it might not be true.
So full disclosure, this might not be true, but I think it is true.
There was an Arctic explorer, an Arctic exploration, years and years and years ago.
Why the Arctic has to be explored?
I don't know.
I mean, you go there, it's like, well, it's cold, and there's nothing here.
But I'm sure there's lots of science involved,
and I'm being a Philistine about it.
So the Arctic was being explored by a British explorer
called Sir Randolph Fines.
I think that's his name.
No, Randolph Fines is the actor.
Ray Fines or Ray Fines is the actor?
Anyway, I think it was Randolph Fines.
And I think he's related to Ray Fines.
It might be his uncle or his...
I don't think he's his dad.
But I think they're related.
Fines is quite an unusual name.
So I think they're probably related in some way.
now so random finds was
exploring the Arctic or somewhere else very cold
I thought of this today actually because I was out of the cold
I don't know if you can tell I'm flushed
because it's freezing out there
I thought and I remembered this from years when I was a kid
that Ronald Fines was exploring the Arctic
and he had to cancel the expedition
because of frostbite
which you'd be like well I mean I've got seen that coming
couldn't you
couldn't you like you know
and put some plans in place for frostbite.
I mean, it's going to be cold.
You know it's going to be cold.
So wrap up warm.
And then I remembered,
now this, again, this may be rubbish,
but I think it's true.
He had to cancel the expedition
because when he was,
when he was in the Arctic,
he went to go and do a peepee in a bottle
and his peepee
touched the side of the bottle.
and in the cold temperatures,
you go first by and has peeping.
And which begs the question,
I used to talk about this years ago,
it begs the question,
what was he doing peeing into a bottle
in the middle of the Arctic anyway?
It's not like, what are you guys?
You keep it in four.
It's not like anyone's going to see you.
And if you, it's not like the animals all pee outside.
I'm in polar bears and stuff.
Although I don't know if I would ever try and get a polar bear to be into a bottle.
I think that's a recipe for a mauling.
You can mall.
In fact, I wouldn't go anywhere near a polar bear.
It is my understanding.
This is a top tip, by the way.
I'm going to introduce a top tip segment to this podcast.
Now there's tips.
It's a podcast with tips.
So here's a tip.
Try and avoid polar bears.
and here's why
because a polar bear
to my knowledge
is the only animal
that will actually stalk and kill a human
sharks will do it
but sharks kill humans
but the
what a shark does is it comes up
and it bites you to see if your food
because the shark's you know
find the out glands are in its teeth
this is very scientific
so it sees you
it thinks is that food
I don't know if it's had been
and they go no food
but by that time too late you're dead
because you know
They're very bity.
But a polar bear,
or maybe a grizzly bear as well, I suppose,
they'll come after you, neat you.
They'll follow you home.
They'll get a seat on the plane
and set a few rows behind you.
And my wife just texted me.
She's on her way home.
So that's good.
Oh, my family WhatsApp's kicking up.
She went out today to go to a big fear.
That was a big, sort of,
vintage antique
fair thing
and so we had to go and look at vintage clothes
and buy some maybe
and I was asked to go
and I said no
I won't go and I'll tell you why
it's cold there could be bears
polar or grizzly
and also
I'm not
great at the antique fairs
and so I thought
and I said I want to stay here
and talk to my friends
my imaginary horse friend
and my friends
in Port Castellvania
where you live
and that's what I'm going to do
so I will take your questions
questions have been rolling and people asking things
that
people asking things
that's what questions are you and what a question is
Todd Marsh from Canada
now I think
Todd
if you're in Canada
you should really be a little more specific
Canada to my knowledge
maybe the second biggest country
in the world biggest country well it's a big place
so if anyone's looking for you Todd
perhaps a polar bear
which they have in Canada
they probably have grislies and polar bears up there
I don't know it sounds like a dangerous place
Todd
or maybe Todd lives
in a marsh in Canada
I don't think you have marshes in Canada it's too cold
I look forward to your angry but polite letters.
Did you know there was an NHL hockey player from Nova Scotia
played hockey with him as a team in Sydney
in Sydney and S.
You know there was an Aisna from Nova Scotia, played hockey with him.
Oh, I think he's talking about the hockey player that had the same name as me
or did I have the same name as him?
Yes, there's an NHL local player called Craig Ferguson.
I believe he's pretty good.
He's my favorite, certainly, because he has the same name as me.
Things happen when you get people with the same name as you, and it can be, some of them are very good.
There's a young man in Scotland right now who's very impressive.
His name, same name as me, Craig Ferguson.
And he's walking across, I saw this online or in a Scottish newspaper.
you're walking across America
to raise money
and I think mental health awareness
for the Scottish World Cup team
who will be in America
for the World Cup this year
in Los Angeles
and I thought well that's good
he's got the same name as me
but I just hope he doesn't run into people that think
like wow Craig Ferguson
you look a lot younger and in better shape
than the one
it was on TV.
But he is Scottish
and if you see him walking through your town
give him a how-do
and a pat in the back
and well done and
good for you, son
because he's doing well.
And if you meet the
NHL hockey player
Craig Ferguson,
give him a how-do as well
and say you're my favourite.
I don't know that many hockey players
I'll be honest.
personally maybe two
they're both my favourite
it is from Greg Rollins
he says what is the most joyful thing
you've seen or experience that wasn't meant to be funny
oh I don't know the answer to that doesn't make any sense
was the most joyful thing I've seen
that wasn't meant to be funny
but
I don't know there are two different things
are they enjoy funny is that the same thing
sometimes yes
sometimes perhaps not
Joseph from
Kerry, North Carolina
I used to do a show with the guy called
Cary, Drew Carey's name was
if you guys know him.
He hosts the Price is right
and he is a lovely man
and he's from a town called Cleveland, Ohio
which I always said to Drew
when I went to Cleveland for the first time
I said, Drew, I said, so you
because there was a lot of us there
and if I had said Ryan
Drew wouldn't have known enough
he would have thought I was talking to Ryan
because there's a lot of different people then.
So I said, Drew, I said,
this town of yours, Cleveland, I said,
it is very like
my hometown of Glasgow.
And he's like, ah, you're bullshit.
I'm like, I'm not, Bill Shudden.
It's very, very similar to my town of Glasgow,
this Cleveland, Ohio.
And he went, Peshima.
And then, years later,
Drew went to
Glasgow to see an old firm game.
A known firm game is a soccer game
between Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic.
And it
hijinks can ensued.
And he went to go and see it's a big sporting event.
And he texted me and he said,
this town of yours, hey Craig, he said.
But I knew his names and contacts.
He said, hey Craig, it's true.
And I said, I know.
Although there's a point saying it. It was a text.
But I said it anyway.
He said, I know.
I said
I know it's huge
but he said
I'm in Glasgow
it's just like Cleveland
like you said
I felt validated
but also a little crosser
because he
pashawed me
and then he had to
undo his pashaw
and that's not that easy
you know
all right
there is
is
hang you know
I'm a trouble seeing
that's
the computer's over here
you can
I can show you over here
but happy
with stuff of that in terms
isn't. All right.
This is from koalas and crumpets.
I don't think that's a name.
I don't think that's a name at all, but that's who is from koalas and crumpets.
Maybe it's an organization.
Qualas and crumpets.
Quas, of course, people call a koala bears.
Not bears.
Coalas are not bears.
They are marsupials, which they look like bears a little bit.
When I went to Australia, I held a koala.
no
hostage rather
I just held it
I went to this
Quala
Empori
A koala
A zoo
I went to a zoo
And part of the
Petting Zoo thing
Is you could get a
Quala
And you could hold
A little quala
And koalas
Two things happen
One, the koala
Of course
Like all wild animals do
When they meet me
Is they poop on me
And so the koala
Pooped on me
But a koala poop
It's kind of like
It's like a little
you know, one of those little
olive
things that you get at Greek restaurants.
It's just like a little...
It looks quite nice.
It just like bounced off.
In fact, had I been in a Greek restaurant,
I might have mistaken for a snack.
So look out for that.
If you're in a Greek restaurant
and you're with a koala bear,
you know, heads up.
Be careful.
Anyway, the...
We were...
Yeah, we were in a zoo.
and I was being, you know, introduced to this koala.
And I heard this, I don't know if this is true about koalas.
I think it's true, though, that koala bears eat only eucalyptus sleeves.
That's their diet.
The eucalyptus leaves, the leave of the eucalyptus tree.
Now, one of the side effects of the eucalyptus on the koala bears is against them high.
So what they do is they have a problem with koala bears falling out,
trees because the koala bears eat their staple diet.
I mean, that would be like me getting stoned on potatoes.
Like, you know how bad it would be for my people?
Well, maybe better, actually.
Anyway, um, koala bears get stoned on.
I said bears, they're not bears of my superiors.
Quala bear, guillas, um, get stoned on the diet and they fall out the trees.
It was a real problem.
It's a bit of a fan.
evolutionary anomaly, I would think, that an animal that gets high on its own supplies,
if you like, managed to live this long. But that's a striptia for you. They got a lot of weird
animals there. And I will say this about koalas. Even although people call them bears, a koala bear
would never follow you home unless you had some eucalyptus leaves in your pocket. And then it might.
And then it might. It'd be like, hey, what's that mind?
Oh, canoire.
Have a little of your eucalyptus.
That's their astranoian, as you can tell from my episode.
My apologies, asternolans.
Qualas and Crompets.
Again, I think that's an organising.
Quala said, Cropusic.
Great, could we please get a brief explanation of what happened to the Sirius XN show?
We left listening to you at Manlo.
Oh, here's a thing.
this oh here's the thing when I
about a few years ago I think it was really about
2015 you know about 2015 I think
2016 maybe I
I was approached by the serious satellite radio
people and they said we do a daily show
I don't want to do a daily show anymore thanks very much I've done that and they said no no
no we'll put equipment in your house
and you can just do the show in your house so you just go like I'm doing this
to you now, but it was
two hours a day
on series satellite radio.
I did that for about, I don't know,
a year or not for something like that.
And it was in my garden shed
in Malibu Joe, my friend Joe,
who coincidentally was the front end
of the Not a Real Horse
and the own late night show.
That's how we, and Joe and I work together,
he's a writer, we write together.
He runs, I think he still runs
Tom Pappas podcast,
which I'm doing this week
so maybe I'll see him
but
the
because Tom Papa has guests on his podcasts
unlike this
we should all we have is fake
fake horses
they fake horses don't they
they do
anyway
what was that talking about
oh yeah
what was that talking about
I don't know I can't remember
oh yes
the satellite radio show
can we get a brief
explanation of the satellite radio show well I did it for about year and a half and I kind of
I realized that I was doing this show two hours a day and it was every day and this is one of the
reasons why I don't want to do a show every day I mean I had done it and then I didn't really know
what to do and I was doing this show from my garden shed and it was when we lived in Los
Angeles and I realized after a while I wasn't leaving the house at all and I wasn't even put
pants on. You know, I was just like
put out of pajama pants. I'd go down
to my shed. I talked for two hours
to Joe and we do
the radio show. And
I wouldn't go anywhere. I wouldn't
do my innocent. At all ends,
it's not, it's not healthy.
So,
I said to the serious people, would you mind if I
quit? And they went, no, no, no. And
they're up. I was it.
I would, you know,
maybe they could have said, no, Craig, please.
But they didn't. We're like, no, that's right.
plenty of go.
So, uh, I did.
So it was very nice of them.
Uh, it was nice.
Actually, they were very nice.
Really nice people.
I just, that wasn't for me.
Um, this is from Shikkan.
I, I, I'm about pronouncing the name.
Probably Shika.
Uh, I'm going to know.
Shika from Mauritius in Africa.
Well, first of all, I've never been there.
Sheik is a lovely name.
I don't know if that's how he pronounced it.
and I've never been to Mauritius.
I have been to Africa, but I've never been to Mauritius,
and I think I'd quite like to go to Mauritius.
Sheka from Mauritius says,
Craig, I'm writing from Mauritius.
I guess that.
I was going to say, I know.
It's like when Drew Carey texts and then he said,
hey, Craig, it's true.
I'm like, I know.
She's from Mauritia.
Although, to be fair, to Shika, she could be traveling and say,
hey, I'm in London.
And I thought, anyway, she's in Mauritius.
He says, you show reached us all the way here.
Did it ever surprise you how far the show travels?
I'm presuming it's the old light light show.
I think what surprises me about the old light light light show,
now listen to this is going to make you feel weird.
It certainly makes me feel weird.
It is 12 years almost since I stopped doing that show.
It was 11 years ago in December.
I stopped doing the late.
by show. So I've now been not doing it longer than I did it. And yeah, I still people will say to me,
hey, I just saw Gettist ABC on your show. And of course, what it is is the internet. The, like,
stuff just goes on. I mean, in one regard, I think it's great. But they don't get to see the show.
They get to see little bits of it. And if you know anything about bio,
that show, it was a finely crafted hour of television that had a beginning and a middle and an end.
And to get a whole benefit of it, you had to watch the whole thing.
I feel a bit like Nietzsche.
Nietzsche complained that people shouldn't quote little bits of philosophers.
They have to read the entire canon of a philosopher to understand it.
You can't just quote little bits of a philosopher,
which of course is a bit ironic
given that Nietzsche is
without doubt the person who's
got the most little soundbites of his stuff
all the time.
He's a mixed bag, Nietzsche, if you ask me.
I haven't read everything.
I've read quite a lot of it.
This whole Uber-Mess thing,
I don't know.
Misplaced Darwinism, bullshit.
I look forward to your angry,
intelligent letters and polite
if they're from Canada.
And if you're
a bear. And you disagree with me. Do not stalk me. And if you're a koala, you're not a bear.
This is from Will in Philadelphia, PA. He said, Craig, has anyone? Philadelphia is in Pennsylvania.
No bears. Well, no koalas, except maybe domesticated or visiting koalas.
as they are passing through Philly on their way to other parts.
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Well, in Philadelphia says,
Craig, does anyone ever say
something that fundamentally
change your mind?
In an instant.
Yes, many people have done that.
One that springs to mind
is what I've told about
quite often.
It was actually
from an African gentleman,
not from Mauritius,
from South Africa,
a gentleman by the name
of Archbishop Desmond Tutu.
By the way,
His name wasn't Archbishop, Desmond Tutu.
He was an Archbishop.
He wasn't like, what a lovely baby, Mrs. Tutu?
What are you going to call?
Well, we're going to call him Archbishop, you know, in case.
But no, that was his name.
It was his title.
His name was Desmond Tutu.
And I see a giant for your man.
Of course, I'm sure he was.
And he was on my old light light show.
And when he was on the show, we had a conversation.
we were just dicking around and laughing
We're also having a serious conversation
But we were also having
It was just a conversation
I mean he was a very intelligent, very funny man
And a man who I admired greatly
Sadly no one with us obviously
But a man who I admired greatly
And I was a big fan of
And he said to me something during a conversation
We were just we were laughing about something or other
And he said to me you are crazy
now he's not the first person that said that to me
but he's the first person
of that caliber
that said anything like that to me
he said you are crazy and I was like oh huh
I said well you've met some crazy people
he said no no no
you are the type of crazy we need
just be as crazy as you want
or worse to that effect
and it changed the way I felt about
and sure actually
the show got madder after
the late night show got a little madder after that
the deconstruction that had begun
the first day I started doing late night
I was like how this works
let's start fucking unpacking it
but over time
you know it got a little more
satirical I guess
I mean it certainly
I began afraid of the format
of late night
and then I
respected it
and then
I
got kind of bored with it
and then I'd quite like to
dismantle this and lock it
but also
people like it so I mock it
in a way which is affectionate
you know a sort of gentle ripping
if you like sounds a bit dirty
anyway
so I did that
but I think a large part of the
of the sea chain
of how I felt as a person
it was almost getting out of jail a little bit
do you know what I mean? It's like
if someone like Desmond Tutu says to you
know what whatever you're doing you do that
I'm like fuck yeah
fuck yeah
it's Desmond Tutu
so
so I kind of did a little bit
and I think still
fundamentally
it has an effect on me
I have this
but I was a younger person that is very ambitious
I'm still ambitious but in a different way
I was very ambitious for the usual things
that young people want I know people too
you know I wanted you know
money and stuff and kudos and all that
and all that stuff's nice
no doubt but
do you hear my tummy there
because my wife texted me
and said I'm going to bring some food home
and then my tummy's like
what's happened
so
it on the way
which can only tell us one thing
this podcast
this particular episode of the podcast
is minutes away from being over
but what I was going to say to you is
I still
I'm ambitious and I still
kind of think like that
but I think differently a little bit now
I don't feel like I have to
own things the way I used to
I'm not saying that I don't like on it things
I do like on in things I do like on in times
But I don't know what.
It's different now.
I think it's also part of getting older.
You think, well, look, gaze upon my works,
you mighty and despair for I am Ozzymandias, King of King.
The idea that you can somehow outrun the forceman by having stuff,
money stuff and kudos.
It's kind of absurd, my friends, isn't it?
It's absurd.
And when you watch, and I do watch people in public life,
and I'm sure you do too, and yank,
what fuck you're doing this for?
I don't know why.
I find myself getting more
introspective and
individual
as time goes on. Is that good or a bad thing?
I don't know. But it began,
I think.
It was a fork in the road
before
I met Desmond Tudu.
And as I met Desmond Tudor
and as Yugibeirum so famously said
when you come to a fork in the road, take it.
So I did.
and
that's the story of me today
this has been another edition of the Joy podcast
clearly there's a snack on my way which I'm quite excited about
my wife is br-I hope she didn't buy a snack at a vintage
antique fair thing she's at a lot
I do like vintage antiques
but I don't
I want to eat one
but whatever it is I've learned this much
ever she brings home
I'm going to say
That's great.
Wow.
I'm so glad you got that and be happy.
I have learned something like my friends.
All right.
Well, until next time, pick up some motherfuckers.
