Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - Adam Carolla

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

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My guest today, everyone, is a gentleman who is outspoken. He knows what he thinks, and he's not afraid to tell you what he thinks. He's going to tell you right now he is the singular Adam Carolla. Enjoy! All right, so we very briefly were talking about the right age to complain. I feel like I I'm 62. I'm going to be 63 very soon. And I think that's now I can really start to complain.

I can get people off my lawn. I can say that young people are ruining the world and my hip hurts. And all three of those things are maybe true. Yeah, but the problem is, is we've now enacted a sort of demographic for complaint, which is if you're heterosexual male and you have money and you're over six foot and you're white, then who are you to complain? Which is, I feel like I don't want that taken away from me just because of the color six foot and you're white, then who are you to complain? Which is, I feel like I don't want that taken away from me just because of the color of

my skin or just because of my bank account. I feel like complaining is, you know, maybe not uniquely American, but maybe we've perfected the art of it. And I like the notion of having all these things going for me and still complaining. Like I feel like it should give hope to other people. That even with all the privilege and all the money and all the luxury, I still can't complain. Well, I think that it's not, first of all,

I take issue with the fact there's a uniquely American skill. No, I agree. No, I say I think we've perfected it, but I don't, it's not, it's worldwide, but we may have put, you know, like cinema. You know, everyone's got it, but we just perfected it. Well, I see even then, I don't know, Adam, I mean, what about the Italians? You're Italian people, the Italians do some pretty good cinema, let's be honest. It's just that what you're talking about is that you're aware of it because

you're in America, but if you were in Italy, you'd be like, hey, what's so coming to go? We got some pretty good cinema. Yeah, but I think this is an argument where you go, well, what about this great film? What about Fellini or what about this great film out of Paris? All true, but volume wise, I think we're the heavyweight champion.

I think here's where the agreement is the agreement is that we in America have made a business out of complaining that cannot be matched for sheer size and money and, uh, uh, just the volume, uh, and, and scope of complaints. It makes everyone else just look like specialists. Yeah, I agree with that. All right, that's fair enough. So listen, I was looking at, you know that thing when you have someone on the show

and you haven't talked to them for a while, so you Google them? I don't know if you still do that. I Googled you just before I come on. And why didn't know? I've been aware of you for a very long time. You and I have bumped into each other on campus a few times over the years But I I had no idea and maybe this is not true. Maybe this is internet

Do you were a boxer and a pretty good one, too? I I was a trainer and a boxer and a and a pretty good one from a technician Standpoint, but I wasn't ever ranked or anything, anything like that. I was just an amateur guy, but I did, I did do it for a li I did teach it as a, as a trainer for, for a living for a period of time. Did you teach these Hollywood women with the mitts? Did you go like Beverly Hills housewives and just let them have the maps and tell them

how powerful they were? Yeah. Um, well, I, what I did technically is I ran classes for the Hollywood women and their, you know, lawyer husbands or producer husbands, and then I had some private students where I ran the myths for them as well. And I worked at a place called Bodies in Motion, which had a couple of locations around Los Angeles in the day.

And I worked at the one in Old Town, Pasadena, which I built actually, cause the guy told me if I built the place, then I built it out, it was already a structure, you know, then I could teach there. So I wanted to teach there because I was a carpenter. I think it's very butch that you're a carpenter and a boxer. I've never in my, whenever I like, I've never fought, but I did boxing training to stay

in shape, probably like lawyers and Hollywood ladies. And I've never been in the kind of shape that I meant when I was sparring and hitting the bag and running every day. It's unbelievable. Yeah, it is. It's a good workout. It's kind of a sport mixed with workout.

And you can, you can, and it's kind of nice about it is you can skip rope for 10 minutes and that's its own thing. And then you could go shadow box in front of the mirror for 10 minutes and that's its own thing. And then you could hit the heavy bag for 10 minutes and that's its own thing. And then you could spar for 10 minutes and that's,

and you could hit the focus pads, you know, so you can kind of move around versus sit on a rowing machine for an hour or a treadmill for half an hour or whatever that super repetitive part of working out which gets really taxing. You can, you know, when you're skipping rope and you're being miserable, you go on another four minutes, I'll be able to put the gloves on and hit the heavy bag and that'll be better. And you can keep going from station to station.

You still do that? Well, my hands are so screwed up from so much boxing and so much carpentry that it's really difficult. But what I do almost on a daily basis is I shadow box. And shadow boxing is actually probably better than hitting the heavy bag in terms of technique because you're forced to kind of work your technique. Sometimes when people get on a heavy bag, they just kind of wail on it,

which isn't really technique. It's just kind of you getting out aggression or trying to thump it as hard as you can. I would say that most people who wanted to get better at boxing, if they just really worked on skipping rope and really worked on shadow boxing, they would get much better versus sparring and hitting the heavy bag. Well, I think it's too late for me now.

I think it's 62. I should just maybe go for a walk and have a coffee. I'll tell you one thing I discovered recently, semi recently about I'm with you going for a walk. I got a weighted vest. I got like a- No, I did that too. Oh, you did that too?

Yeah, it's amazing. You go for a walk and especially if there's an incline, man, if there's a hill by your house or something, put that 25 pound vest on, hike up the hill. It'll be a walk and a workout. You know what? I was doing a show once, like a comedy show, and I had to wear a fat suit. Like a really heavy fat suit for this, like, bit in the show. And because of the way it was, I was wearing the fat suit all day. And I thought this would be a great like workout thing for somebody.

Cause not only is it, is it like really a lot to carry around, but when you take it off the day, it's like you're a before and after picture. You get used to yourself being really heavy and you just take it off. And so it motivates you and sweats the shit out. Yeah. That's what I think the, the, the weighted vest is a bit like, but maybe it should be dressed up a little bit. So you look more portly.

Well, maybe they'll make a weighted vest with stretch marks. I think, I think that might be the way to go. That's my idea in case anyone wants to do it. Yeah. I think that I own it now because this is, Oh yeah. Well, you suggested it. I suggested it.

So now I own it. So I'll take it on Shark Tank or something. How did you get into doing boxing? Was it, cause you went, you went to school in Hollywood, right? Was it tough? Was that what it was? Was it self-defense? No, I went to school in North Hollywood,

which is like not Hollywood at all. It's just North Hollywood. You know, it's kind of the Valley. Like the Valley, yeah. Yeah. No, I wasn't, I was kind of the captain of the football team. So I wasn't really picked on or anything. I was picked on by my own

Jock friends and we picked on each other, but we didn't really get picked on outside of our friendship We just had I had very Aggressive friends who just did horrible things to me physically, but they were friends. So, no, it wasn't out of a sense of self-defense. It was more like I did, I played football for a long time, and then at some point I couldn't play football anymore, and I wanted to do something that had some physicality to it, you know, a contact sport so to speak, you know, because football, it was a lot of fun hitting people and getting

into it with people and just the physicality of football. I liked it and but I couldn't really play football at that level anymore. So boxing seemed like a physical thing to do that was like sort of a contact sport and that's kind of when I took it up. You still a fan of it? Do you follow it? Do you watch the fighters coming up and yeah, I watch it. I mean, UFC is probably a little more exciting than, than boxing, but I

enjoy boxing as well and it's nice to see the UFC guys really come into their own in terms of technique with their hands, because at the beginning they were kind of sloppy. And now they're getting pretty tight. And it just over the last decade, they've really cleaned up their form, you know, in, in the, in the hands world. I've never really watched the UFC fight. Now I'm aware of it, but I always, I was always a bit of a snob about it. Cause I just liked the fact that, you know, that boxing is all technique and to

watch guys who are so gifted and so fast. But you know what? I should watch UFC a little bit. It seems like it's a whole circus now as well. It's huge. It's, it's kind of like, did you get into it early on? Yeah. I mean, I liked boxing.

I liked combat sports. You know, I was working in that world a little bit. I mean, I was working, you know, I was always training and then working as a trainer and stuff. So I was always kind of, you know, in that world, if there is gonna be a fight, someone will invite you over, or hey, we're gonna watch the fight. You know, it's a kind of a, it's a little fraternity of,

you know, you work with guys that are trainers, you're training guys who like boxing, a fight comes up, inevitably they say, I'm having people over, come over Friday, we'll watch the fight, you know? So you get sort of, you know, uh, kissed into it a little bit because that's what you're working with. You know, what about in the, the world of sports radio and radio and like podcasts. And I think of you as being one of the real kind of OGs of this game that like you kind

of is like one of the guys that started thes of this game that like you kind of is like one of the guys that started the podcast world, weren't you? I was one of the earlier podcasters. There were others, but there were very few back then. I kind of my, what I will, uh, take credit for is, is not for podcasting, but for sort of starting the business model of podcasting, of getting advertisers and kind of formatting it in a way,

which isn't really anything new, it's just the old radio format. But sort of taking podcasting and kind of turning it into a business is something I'll take some credit for. And also the live podcast, I started doing a live, they're doing live podcasting 15 years ago, more than 15 years ago, and now everyone does a live podcast. But when I did it, no one knew what it was. They didn't, the people in the audience didn't know what it was.

It's such an odd thing because it's kind of the dominant strain of, of what people like you and I do know, isn't it? It is kind of like, it used to be kind of like a side hustle and now it's, it's the main thing I can't imagine. I mean, that this podcast is, uh, you know, I do with I heart radio, but I can't see me, you know, doing that forever. It doesn't seem to make any sense. You could just put it up on YouTube and you're done.

Yeah. Uh, you know, YouTube and the visual component of podcasting has turned into something that wasn't anything when I started, nobody really needed to see you podcast. They just need to hear you podcast. I still am a little confused as to why they need to see you podcast, but for some reason it's turned into a large

aspect of podcasting, which to me I'm a little sad about because I really like the notion of speaking and you putting earbuds in and going for a hike and just listening to what I'm saying versus, you know, sitting on your phone, waiting at an airport, watching what I'm saying. Well, I think also as well, cause it is the phones that do it. I think that it's, it's weirdly less intimate because I always thought like radio is really kind of an intimate thing as a listener, it really feels like, you know, you're, you're much more involved in it somehow, which is weird because you're not seeing it.

And then the other thing is, I think now is that, uh, and I know this has happened to you that, uh, there's such a hunger in the, in, in the zeitgeist and in the media for any kind of controversy or click bait or, or something that will spike somebody else's, uh, little, little headline that they'll take a tiny piece of what you're saying and make it sound different to what you were actually saying in order to create a problem. Um, and I think it, do you think it's kind of, you're kind of more of a sitting duck than you used to be.

Does that bother you at all? It doesn't bother me, but I have a unique gene of not being that concerned about what people say about me or think about me, even as long as I feel like I know what I feel about me. I don't mean some bullshit about in my heart. I just mean like, there are things I will say that are deeply unpopular and get the ire of a lot of people. unpopular and get the ire of a lot of people. But if it's the truth, then it's the truth, you know?

So I look at myself as a doctor and I'm just telling you, you have cancer and you don't want to hear that. And I've ruined your day and now you're weeping and maybe you're angry at me. And my feeling is, is I am sorry to present you with this information, but that's my job and that's my field of expertise and you should know about it. And now at some point you're angry at me and I don't know what I, I don't have anything to do with that. I'm just presenting you with what happens to be the truth.

And I've, I've done it, you you know on the air and I've done it I've had it happen socially as well where you know, I had a whole table of Friends turn on me while eating brunch about ten people because I just told them the truth about a certain topic, a subject we were talking about, and they all started yelling at me, and they got angry at me, and I just told them, look, I'm sorry if you guys can't handle

whatever this thing is that I happen to know about, but I'm just telling you, and that's your business. And yes, I will ruin this brunch and I will be the least popular person at this table. But that's not going to prevent me from telling you the truth and what I know about it. The number one hit true crime podcast, The Girlfriends is back with something new, The Girlfriends Spotlight.

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at The Craig Ferguson Show, and it's right there. Just click it and play it and it's free. I can't, look, I'm not gonna come around your house and show you how to do it. If you can't do it, then you can't have it. But if you can figure it out, it's yours. ["The Craig Ferguson Show Theme"] Do you ever get angry if someone tells you something

and you profoundly disagree with it? Does that ever make you mad? I, yeah. I mean, there's, for me, it's a, it's a kind of a, yes, I'll answer that. Yes. Um, when, uh, governor Gavin Newsom was sitting in here years ago, over a decade ago. And I was telling him that homeless people were basically drug addicts and, or people

with huge psychological disorders or both. And that's who was sleeping on the street. And that's what we need to focus on. And he told me the real picture of homelessness was a mother who was divorced, who had a full-time job, who got kicked out of her house because she got divorced or something and had two kids and worked full-time minimum wage.

I said, that's not it at all. It's what I'm talking about. And then I got angry at him because he's made the problem worse by not Listening to what the truth was about homeless. So yes I I will get angry at these people because they're Exacerbating problems and they're actually they're making the problems worse, you know, so yeah, I guess I'll be that way I've always been pragmatic and just told people,

here's what you need to do. And, but, you know, a sort of micro macro, like I used to be a carpenter and I went to my mom's very tiny house years and years ago, and she said she was gonna remodel the bathroom. And I said, all right. And I went and kind of looked at the space and I said, you need to make sure you frame in a pocket door, sliding pocket door here when you're framing this out,

because if you open the door, it's just going to cut off the hallway. And if the door swings in, it's just going to off the hallway. And if the door swings in, it's just gonna hit the sink that's on the inside the bathroom. So make sure you get a pocket door. She said, all right. And then I came back like six months later

and I looked at it and she didn't have a pocket door. And I opened the door and it opened and smacked my stepdad in the ass who was standing at the sink. And I just thought, okay, why didn't you listen to me? Why didn't you do what I told you to do? By the way, not for me, for you. This would have been so much better. But most people don't. Most people don't. But here's what I think the headline of that particular morality tale is though,

that you didn't see your mom for six months. There's your problem. If you had been there as the construction work was going on, you could have said, wait, wait, we have to put a pocket door in, but because you neglected your mother for six months, so really you're to blame. You know what? I got to find a mirror. Um, to be fair, could have been three months.

And also I could have met her for brunch two times in that, that, that that showed up at her house. Brunch is a meal that comes up for you quite a lot, which is interesting because I think of you as a very kind of butch straight down the line guy. And brunch, let's be honest is, is America's only openly gay meal. So I find that it's an interesting mix for you. I don't subscribe to that statement that you just made about openly gay brunch.

And I'll tell you why. You're old enough to remember a book, a very popular bestseller from the 70s called Men Don't Eat Quiche. There are certain- Oh yeah, yeah. Real Men Don't Eat Quiche, yeah, that's right. Real Men Don't Eat Quiche.

I will file that under brunch, which is hell yeah I eat quiche. It's eggs, it's ham, it's in a pastry shell. It's delightful. What does that mean, real men don't eat quiche? You know what I'm saying? There's bacon, cheese, eggs, and it's in a pie shell. What, it's in a pie. I love bacon, I love cheese, and I love eggs.

So where do you even come off with real men don't eat quiche? I would eat quiche during brunch happily. Wait, so you eat quiche at lunchtime? Brunch. I'm saying I would eat quiche, I would eat the food that real men don't eat at the only openly gay meal of the day. Did you just come out to me there? Is that what happened? Not intentionally, but yeah, practically.

Under 1970s rules, you just, that's what you did. It's funny because it really is, is an odd thing because I mean, I don't want to kind of bang on about cancel culture and the way things have changed and all that, because I feel like, you know, I, I, I feel like I talk about it too much, but it does seem interesting to me that you and I will laugh at hardships, or not just you and I, people will laugh at hardships and stuff that offends me. I find it quite funny stuff that offends me. I kind of seek out comedy that offends me, but find it quite funny stuff that offends me. I can seek out comedy that offends me, but that's very, that's kind of very different now. It's a, it's a different

taste, I think. Well, I, I gotta wonder. I think there's, I think it depends how you feel about yourself in that I feel secure about myself in that I, I think there's a couple of things going on. And it was weird. So I think it was yesterday, somebody wrote me a tweet and I'll paraphrase, but it said like, when did you become some sort of diarrhea tampon that just absorbs all the diarrhea around you and sucking up to your billionaire friends who make fun of you behind your back?

When did you become this? And I just wrote 2009. But it was funny to me. It was funny to me. And then I thought to myself, this guy just wrote the most vile thing he could think of. He could summon about me and I thought it was funny. Now, why did I think it was funny?

I'm not saying, oh, I'm so secure, nothing affects me. I'm just saying I found it amusing. And so I wrote, I just wrote back 2009 is when I began becoming that diarrhea absorbing. Diarrhea tampon. Right, and so I wasn't bothered by it at all. I kinda like it and people will say to me things, oh, you won't, you this or you're that, or you just, you know,

you're only famous cause you've sucked off Jimmy Kimmel or whatever. But I know what I did. I understand what I do. Or somebody will go, you know, you're the least funny person on the planet. I'm like I'm like, have you met my stepdad, John? I can't be the least. So I mean, second, top five, maybe, unfunniest people on the planet. So it doesn't really work.

But then I also realized a lot of this, I think, is born of some sort of insecurity. And I'm not a boastful person, but I'm horribly secure. I am very secure. But it's only because I have a sort of track record of achievement. And I do a lot of things and I achieve in achieve in in many different departments of life and and I understand it's like I really think part of what we're missing is a skill set. is having a trade like being a carpenter actually physically tangibly knowing how to build a house and there's something about that that gives you a security like a base like I totally understand a scale I you have a feel of expertise I

think that's totally right I mean I don't have that and I kind of wish I did, but I, but I understand it from a point of view is I'll tell you something I did very similar that when I started in late night in 2005 that because of it, because I had, I had to sign a very punitive deal with CBS and, and so I wasn't allowed to do anything at all on television unless I got their permission. So they kind of owned me for everything. Like couldn't do a movie, couldn't do a radio show, couldn't do a commercial, couldn't do anything unless I got their permission to do it.

The only one thing they allowed me to do was live stand up. Live stand up, they weren't interested in and it didn't bother them. And I could go and do that. And I had done that, you know, as, as a kid and I had done that starting out. So that was the closest thing I had to a trade. And as time went on in late night, I always stayed going and doing stand up. Cause I felt like it was the thing I could fall back on, you know, the way you're describing having a trade that it was my autonomy.

If you like, you know what I mean? It's like, if everything I can do this, a trade isn't necessarily plumber or carpenter, you know, stand up as a trade and being a pilot is a trade, you know, being a certified accountant is a trade. You know, there's, you know, I, I'm saying a field of expertise. Yeah. Which could be, could be sculptor really. Yeah.

It's, you know, I think that's a very, um, difficult game Aaron 11 on this. I'll just sculpt a couple of things till the end of the month it may be a little I'm not talking about a financial I'm not approaching it from a financial oh okay I'm saying there are a lot of people that are certified pilots right but they don't get paid as a professional airline pilot. They fly private planes on the weekends or whatever, but they're pilots that can operate a helicopter or something like that.

I'm one of them. I can fly an airplane. Oh, you can? Okay. Yeah, I have a pilot's license, yep. That's a field of expertise that you have, that other people don't have. And it gives you a kind of a base, you know,

like calling it a confidence for lack of a better term, but a sort of steady understanding, I don't know, speaking a second language, playing the standup base, you know what I mean? Just things you can do. And I think the more that you have, the more secure you are. Because if you think about the people

that are sort of melting down at town hall meetings and screaming as loud as they can and sort of going out of their mind, you couldn't imagine them having a pilot's license, could you? And you couldn't imagine them being a skilled electrician, like a journeyman electrician or something. You really can't, or sitting down at the piano

and playing Chopin, you know what I mean? You mean like having these base sort of skills, I do think is a foundation for sanity. I think you're absolutely right. And, and you know what? It's kind of, it occurs to me, as you say, I ran about 2016 and the election cycle. In 2016, I made a decision that I was never again in standup going to discuss any politics.

I'm not going to do any politics at all. None. And, and it was an experiment first of all, to see if I could do it. And then secondly, to give myself a break. And I think what it does is it, it allows you to go into a thought process that is not part of the noise that's going on all the time. And I think what you're describing is right. Like if you're flying an airplane or building a house or applying yourself to

the area of expertise you're talking about, you're not thinking about all the things that make you mad, you're concentrating on something else. And I think, I think that's what it is. I think you're, I think you're right. It's, it's an odd thing. Do you think that's what the noise is that, you know, the kind of hyperbolic nature of everybody talking to each other on social media and everyone getting, you know, on fire with everything all the time is because that's all they think about.

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely know that when you are, well, I mean, it's, it's tied to this sort of lack of physical existence that we've gone into that used to work on a farm and used to chop wood, you'd be in a logging camp, you know, you just have to get up and go do something physical men and women, you know Women would go milk the cow collect the eggs, you know start the fire and you know cook the whatever like whatever they did Everything everyone sort of had a task, you know and people were you know, that's how they got paid and then at some point everyone moved indoors and started getting into cubicles and lots of air conditioning

and they start staring at the computer screen and they become very sedentary and while they did a task the task was sort of endless and never had a Beginning a middle and an end, you know, it's this kind of data entry You know just the next piece of data to enter. You know, when you build a barn, at some point you step back and you look at that barn and you think to yourself, I built that barn

and it's done now. And then you move on. But we removed that from about 90% of the populace and people's minds started turning on themselves. They don't really do that. I work with blue collar guys always and they never, they just think in a pragmatic way. And also they don't have any issues with things, like they don't have dietary restrictions. I would just go, I'm going on a lunch run

and they'd go, all right boss. And then I wouldn't even tell them where I was going. And I would just come back with 10 hamburgers and 10 fries or 10 burritos and 10 tacos, or whatever it is. None of them had any issues with gluten or allergies or something upset their stomach or there was nothing. They just ate whatever they ate.

Then you just got back up and you went to work and no one said a word and there were no rules and there's no restrictions. I think there's that and I think there's also the idea that everyone wants to appear smart. And, and, and if, if you're indignant, it can make you feel like you're smart. I always thought that about comedy comes in for that. Even if you just look at the way comedy is treated, like it's a very rare thing for a comedy thing, a comedy thing to win an Oscar or a Golden Globe or anything like that because comedy, it's not kind of, the thought is done by the person

who's performing it, not necessarily the person that's absorbing it. And I think that, you know, if you make people laugh, they don't feel clever. But if you make them think, you know, if you kind of like massage them or make them kind of being angry as well, you know, anger is, I think, or being indignant or being outraged feels like I'm clever. I notice things that other people don't know. So therefore I'm better in it to kind of boost your confidence because you don't have your carpentry or pilot's license or whatever the hell is something else to kind of boost your confidence because you don't have your carpentry or pilot's license or whatever the hell is something else to kind of bolster you.

So the indignance is the kind of the earthsats skill. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I, it's also, I think there's a lot of virtue signaling too, which is they care more than you care. You don't care what's going on with the indigenous people or the climate or whatever's going on and they care. You know, so Trump is an existential threat and he's going to attack democracy and they're going to fight Trump.

Whereas you're going to sit back and watch sports center. fight Trump, whereas you're going to sit back and watch sports center. So if you sort of went back historically and you want, you know, Hitler was rising to power and, uh, one group of people were going to fight Hitler and the other group were going to a pub to have a beer, you'd go, well, who was the more noble person in this equation? You need to go with the the person obviously was going to go fight Hitler. And that's, that's who the real hero would have been in this equation. So I think there's some of that.

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Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you ever toy with the idea of going into politics yourself, getting into it proper? No, I mean, my problem is, is I have a lot of pragmatic ideas. And I'll give you a, I'll give you a for instance, and this part of the politics, I would do like I was at a party at Mark Garagas, the attorney's house, who knows a lot of politicians and judges and those kinds of people. And I think Mark introduced me to some guy who said he was, uh, you know, a district selectman or something in this area.

And I said to him, you know, where I work on the street behind me, there's lots of people dumping garbage, dumping construction materials, busted out stucco and drywall stuff like that. He said, yeah, I know, I know that's a problem. We have to go in there and clean it up all the time as people dump it back there. I said, yeah, do you know why they dump it? He said, not really, no. I said, well, the dump cost 180 bucks.

That's why they dump it there. And he goes, yeah, okay. And I go, who's doing the dumping? He goes, I don't really know. I said, poor Mexicans who do all the construction work out here, they're, they want to pay 180 bucks to go to dispose of it the right way because they're on a real tight budget. And can come here for free on a Sunday night and just dump it in two minutes and leave. He goes, Oh yeah. Yeah. Cause you know, these are poor Mexicans who do all the construction work out here.

So I go, there's a home Depot literally up the street. He goes, yeah. I go, why don't you have a guy handing out leaflets in English and in Spanish that say you can dump for free at the dump that's down the street? This is a coupon. They're not going to charge you 180 bucks. And when you go over there to dump it, they'll give you a 12 pack of tocottie. And he goes, yeah, that's, that's a good idea.

That's a good idea. And then about a half hour later at the party, the guy circled back to me and he said, what was that idea you had again about the dumping? And I said, Oh man, this is why we're at where we're at. Just let's figure out what's motivating people and let's fix it. You don't have to judge, just fix it. Who is doing the dumping?

Construction guys, how do we know? It's all stucco and drywall and busted out, demoed out stuff. Who's doing it? The super poor guys who do the demo work, they do the hauling, they haul garbage, you know what I mean? Good. How much is the dump? It's too expensive for these guys. Because they give a bid. The bid is like, I'll do it all for a thousand bucks.

All right, they want to peel off 200 more bucks out of that and hand it to the city. Why isn't the dump free? Make it free. If you don't want them to dump everything on the side of Mulholland, then make the dump free. How do we get the word out? Go to the Home Depot and have it on a sign in Spanish. Hand out flyers at the Home Depot. That's where they shop. It's very hard to argue with that as a solution because I'm trying to find some way to kind

of be responsible and kind of say, but wait a minute, but I kind of can't, you know, it's like, it does make sense. I think the thing with government and why probably you don't go into it is you describe it. It's just the frustration of getting anything done. Because it's not really what they, I don't know that they would fucking care about getting anything done. No, their process, in certain places they do, but in Los Angeles, they're all just process people that want to have a meeting. We would have a meeting about this.

At some point I'd be called culturally insensitive. At some point it would be explained to me why it's not going to work. We take a vote, I would lose the vote and then I would get angry and then I'd yell, all right, fuck you, clean up your garbage in the street for the rest of your life. I don't give a fuck. And then I would leave the meeting. It seems like there's no place for Annie to let it go. I think, I think you're right.

I think it's just, it's a logjam. I don't know how anyone could go into politics. I just don't fucking know that anyone could do it. Well, you could, I'll tell you what you could do. And I've been, because I've been really drilling down on this a lot lately and I talked to Dr. Drew about it a lot. There are people who want to do things and then they're process people.

And I know it because my mom was a process person my dad was a process person they wanted to sit and talk about things but they never really wanted to get up and go make a run and buy materials and start the project they wanted to discuss the project you know what I'm saying and there's a lot of people that are process people, probably percentage-wise more women than men, but there's plenty of men that are process people as well. And so if you inhabit the LA city council

or whatever the city council is, if you fill it with process people, then you're going to get a lot of, we're going to need to do a report on. And we have a, we have a committee that's going to discuss this and we're going to wait. Meanwhile, five years goes by and we have twice as many homeless as we had when you started the first meeting and nothing ever really happens, but it's a long discussion about it.

Those are process people and they get attracted to politics. Now there are non-process people. Like we had a mayoral race a few years ago. We had Rick Caruso. He's a commercial builder. So commercial builders are like, hurry, what's going on? Hurry, hurry, hurry. You know, like when Trump spoke to Karen Bass, he was like, let's go clean up

those fires now people need to do it themselves. They want to start tonight. Tonight he's yelling and she's going, Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down safety, safety. So that's a commercial builder talking to a process person. So that's a commercial builder talking to a process person. So we elected a process person, not a commercial builder who's like, all the commercial builder goes is, why aren't the foundation guys done or forming's done?

Where's the concrete? Where's the concrete guys? We got to start framing. We got to get the poor in before we start framing. It's everything is hurry, hurry, what's next. But we like process people here where we sit and have a discussion about things. And my mom would have liked it that way.

She liked the process. And the process is people are good because they give very soothing speeches and discussions. But the problem is, is at some point, you got to fix the potholes and fill the reservoirs and that kind of stuff. And that's not the work of a process person. That's the work of the commercial builder person. And then so what happens is, is the commercial

builder person becomes an annoyance to the process person because, because they come in and they go, what's going on in here, come on, let's go, let's go. And the process person goes, slow down, slow down. We want to keep it safe. Now the process person doesn't say I'm a process person. I'm never going to do anything. They go, I want to get it done as bad as you do,

but we got to take our time, do this safely. We got to make sure, get the right permits, do the testing, check the soil, slow it down. And then five years goes by and nothing's happened. And that's kind of, LA is kind of a process person thing. That's what we do. We talk about things, but we don't really do that that much. You know, it's the truth.

It's like, it's in show business, it's in the television business, it's in the movie business. It's a lot of, even when they do do something, they wanna check before they pull the trigger on what they've done. You have to get a focus group on a movie you've already made. You have to- They have so many meetings.

I know. And nothing ever comes out the other end. And they always, it's funny, they always go, could we just get together? And I go, I already told you whatever this or that it's we're done. You know? Yeah. But we want to get together one more time.

You know, it's always funny. They'll do, they'll even do stuff, you know, from shooting stuff will they go, we're all going to meet in the lobby at six 30 in the morning and the van is picking us up at seven. And I go, well, why don't I just be down there at seven? Well, we all want to get down to lobby at six 30 and make sure we're all there. I'll go, when's the van showing up?

Seven. All right. I'll be down at seven. We're meeting at six 30. Okay. I don't know what you're doing. It's I'll be there at seven. We're getting into the van, right? Yeah. Where's the van team? The van's taking us to the set. Okay. So I'll be there at seven. We're getting into the van, right? Yeah. Where's the van team? The van's taking us to the set

Okay, so i'll be down at seven. I won't be down at six. We're all meeting at six thirty You guys get down there at six thirty. Get me a quiche That's right. I'll eat it in the van on the way to the set. Anima mosa All right, we gotta go because we'll be complaining about people talking too much. And I've been talking too much, but it's lovely to catch up with you again, Adam. You're always a breath of fresh air, continued success. And, uh, it's good to check in with you. Let's do it again soon.

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