Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - Cesar Millan

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

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I talk to interesting people about what brings them happiness. My guest today is not this animal here. This is Zelda. She's one of my dogs. Seamus, my other dog, is somewhere else. But we're very excited because the guest on the podcast today is Cesar Millan, the very famous, the best dog trainer in the world and the dog whisperer and he's going to whisper to you today. I'm whispering. I'm whispering to my dog. Alright, Scissor Milan, enjoy. So listen, you have to tell me again, your first, well, show the first, you know, dog

thing you were doing in England. You were worried about your accent? I was worrying that I wasn't going to pronounce the English proper, right? Oh, in English. That was scary. That was scary. Yeah. English comes from there.

So I learned English in America and I learned learned in the streets and listening to the radio. So it's very street like, you know, and I listen to Rick D's in the morning and then Jada. You learned English from Rick D's? That's awesome. I love that. At one point I met him, you know, and we went to crustaceans and I told him, listen, I learned English through you. So then Jada Pinkett came and she hired a teacher for me to learn the verbs,

because everything is backwards in English. Yeah. And so I knew dogs, I just didn't know how I was going to teach this land, this group of dog lovers, right? Because I never experienced people that love dogs at this level in my life. Well, English people, yeah, they, they're crazy for dogs. They're mad.

They're mad. Yeah, they're, they're, everybody in Britain has a dog. Everybody in Britain has a dog. And most of those dogs are crap. You know, they're, they're terrible, hopeless little dogs. I've got, I don't want to have, my dogs are here and I don't want them to feel like I'm not talking about you. That's right.

Let them know. They're very excited actually that you're here. Zelda, come here. Come here. Come here. What do you have? Come here. He's here.

He's here. You get to see him. Come on up, up, come on. And I'll show you, look, he's right. Oh, nice. Yeah, that's right here. I'll show you, look, he's right. Oh, nice.

Yeah, that's right here. Now I also have a Jack Russell who probably won't come up right about that. Okay. Do you ever get, everybody wants to show you their dog, right? Is that a thing? Yes, especially with the phone, with their phone. Look at my dog. Yeah. People come up and show you photographs of their dogs.

That's right. I tell you what. Especially at the airport. Yeah. When you're running behind and stuff. Seamus their dogs. That's right. Especially at the airport. Yeah. When you're running behind and stuff. Seamus, come here. Come here. Up here.

Up here. Look, just complete the set. Don't disappoint me. Come on. Come on. Be a good Jack Russell. That's right. Yeah.

He's actually the only good Jack Russell we ever had. There he is. There he is. There he is. Yeah. All right. So here's why I wanted to show you these guys, because they're very unruly. And what I want to talk to you about, I want to talk to you about you, of course. Yes.

But I do want to talk to you about the halo collar, because that's the thing you do. And I'm very interested in this. Talk me through it, please. You know, first of all, it's beautiful to be part of technology, right? Because the first time that I saw technology is when I was a kid watching the Jetsons and it was Astro on the treadmill. Right. Right? That's technology.

And when I came to America, I saw treadmills in people's garage and nobody's were using it, humans or dogs. Right? So I learned, I learned that technology can help a dog and, and, and the treadmill world is, you know, a lot of dogs were not walking enough. Different from, from Europe, right? Cause Europeans walk a lot, but people in LA were not walking. So I started in LA, uh, uh, doing, you know, my job, I was walking, I was a dog walker. I started walking dogs for people. I was walking 40 dogs at the same time and that's how I became known. There's a Mexican guy in South Central that walks

a pack of dogs. 40 dogs at the same time? That's crazy. It's crazy, right? But that's literally how I became known because this crazy... People would see you doing it. Yeah, this crazy thing, you know, and I'm Mexican. So they thought I was a gang member. They didn't think I was like a dog walker. But later, you know, later, later people understood why I was doing that. So I started using treadmills because people say, I don't have time. Oh, don't worry. You have a treadmill. Let's put a dog in the treadmill.

Right. So, but I learned about the treadmill through Astro. On the chest. That's fantastic. From a cartoon. Yeah. But you know, the thing is like, they say the guys that came up with the, the flip phones and the iPhone were watching Star Trek in the 1960s and they're like, oh,

let's do that. You know what I mean? It's like, so they watch the science fiction and they're like, oh, let's do that. You know, I mean, it's like, so they watch the science fiction and then it, you know, it becomes part of life. It's amazing. So then, you know, fast forward and now, you know, I'm learning, okay, why, what can I do for the world?

You know, besides teaching the world, besides, you know, teaching about energy, philosophy, actions, how do I help the world to stay focused and to stay consistent? Because this is where the biggest problem for dog lovers, right? To stay focused, to stay consistent, to stay disciplined, right? So it's three activities that a dog needs to do in order for them to have a good life. To follow you, to play with you, to explore. Follow, play, explore, right?

And then each activity has rules, boundaries, limitations, right? And so this is where people have difficulty. They don't, number one, they don't know how to walk a dog. Number two, they don't know how to play with the dog. Number three, they don't know how far can the dog explore, follow, play, explore, right? So by creating a technology that can help you with the rules, boundaries, limitations, it would allow the dog to become more organized, more disciplined. And then the behavior that you repeat

will become imprint and memorize. So the collar is literally to help a dog remember, follow, play, explore, rules, boundaries, limitations. Cause a lot of times, you know, dog lovers, they just go in their mind and a lot of people are walking with a dog with their phone on. With their phone, yeah. I did that today already. Their mind is distracted. So when you are with an animal, you know, like people

that ride horses, they're more disciplined than dog people, right? They're more in tune to the horse and because they're focusing on safety, dog people focus on affection, they focus on love, they focus on fun, right? So the expectations are different, but that sets the dog to fail. That's why it's a lot of dogs in shelters because they develop the wrong problem, right?

But it's not because they were born with the problem, it's the human created the problem by not understanding, by not understanding what makes a dog happy, healthy, loving, smart. And so what does, what does make a dog happy, healthy, loving, smart? I mean, like, how do you, I, like when you said you got to know how to play with your dog, like I, I, I think I know how to play with the dog, but I don't know, like I throw a thing, the dog brings it back. Actually, it doesn't really bring it back.

Sort of brings it back and then runs away with it. Is that it? For example, on the play, a lot of times people think that by throwing the ball a hundred times, the dog has more fun. Right. Right? But if you wait, you hold the toy, and the dog goes into come surrender and waits for it, then you throw it, that has more power

than if you throw the ball a hundred times. All right. Because throwing the ball a hundred times, it creates a stamina, but also creates this fixation. Right? So the dog, you're going to take the breath into a such a high level of playing that this dog now you're going gonna see the pupils dilated Versus when when the dog is waiting for the ball, then you throw it

Then you send them to fetch for the for the toy and it's best when the toy actually hides and then the nose Finds it is it's not really ideal when the eyes and the ears are only playing you want to play with the toy It's not really ideal when the eyes and the ears are only playing. You want to play with the toy? You want to do this? Right? So people play more like Chuck E. Cheese. It's very Chuck E. Cheese like, right? Versus it's more calm, waiting, the dog comes to surrender, you throw the toy, you let him

wait. And the dog likes this better? Because that is more in the way they hunt, right? So they're more quiet, they're more calm, right? They go get it, but they're not crazy getting what they're hunting, right? They're very organized. Everybody, everybody participates, everybody's in the same frequency, in the same state of mind, you know, everybody has their job. And you see what I'm saying? And so the mind goes into patience, calmness, confidence, and then of course when they get what they need is love joy. So the celebration is after. Most people do the celebration. There is no waiting. There is no calmness. There is no structure. It's a very chaotic way of playing. That's why a lot of times when people bring two dogs and they're in the same fixated state in a dog park, they end up fighting. Right.

Because it's two fixated dogs going after the same object. Right. And they're pack animals. They really want to work as a team, right? They do. And as pack animals, the human needs to take the front position, which most of the time people do. People take the back.

So this is the dynamic right now, as I help people in America. Dog is in the front, wife is number two, kids are number three, husband is number four. See the guy was in the back of the pack. The dog was in the front. Wife is number two, kids are number three. So I have to change that dynamic because it's unnatural. Right? So it should be mom, dad in the front, kids right

behind the parents, and then the dogs in the back. If you go to Mexico, that's exactly the dynamic, right? So in Latino communities, the grown-ups are the pack leaders, and then the next generation in that, at the end, is the animal, right? And I'm not saying they're less than, it's just there is no knowledge behind instinct, it is all reaction. Right. So, so we have to make sure we control instincts by, by all of us participating as pack leaders who love the animal.

It's interesting to me then how does that manifest? Cause I, I, I hear you on this and I, I struggle with this a little bit sometimes because I love my dogs, but I'm inconsistent a little bit with the dogs. Sometimes you're in the mood where you can be focused on the dog and sometimes you're like, ah, give me a break for a minute. Especially if you have a Jack. Actually, you know what? I've got to be honest, the Jack Russell is not the worst.

I have a German shepherd who's lying down right now and I'm not going to say her name but she uh she's a very very needy animal. She'll come up lick lick lick lick lick lick all the time always kind of looking for something and has a very difficult time settling. Is that my fault that the dog's like that? Yep. Oh okay. Yeah yeah yeah because the dog so the the nose is telling the dog, go smell this, or the eyes, or the ears, or the dog is anxious, and they learn to calm themselves when they lick the human.

Right? But if the human doesn't create a distance, the dog never knows how to wait. Right? So one of the great things that happen, with all my respect to the people in COVID is the word social distance. Right. Remember that?

So watch your hands, you know, cover your mouth. Social distance. Social distance in the animal world means respect. Most indoor dogs do not practice social distance because the humans allow intimate approach without any kind of agreement. So the dog is just listening to the excitement, right? The dog is excited, the human rewards, and sometimes the human doesn't want that,

but the dog is not clear. So when do I give you social distance, or when do I come into your intimate space, right? So it's four positions in proximity, intimate space, personal zone, social zone, public zone. The dog is very important for the dog to go away from you and wait at a distance. It's actually a job or an activity, but most indoor dogs do not know how to wait. When you say, what do you mean by an indoor dog?

Is that like a dog who's just like a pet who only goes for walks with the owner and that kind of thing. Yeah. The new dog now, right? Because, you know, many years ago, the dog was not indoor unless you were like super, super rich, right? So, so those dogs did practice social distance. So, you know, generations before with the dog behave a lot better.

Yeah, of course. Because they had more rules, boundaries, limitations. Right. Right. So, like, this is a thing that between my wife and I all the time, I'm like, you shouldn't let the dogs on the furniture. I'm sure I've heard you say that before somewhere, but when the dog gets up in the furniture, that's like, that's, it's crossing the line. Am I right with that or did I get picked that up wrong? I think you can, you can definitely copy the horse people because horse people are really good about inviting versus invading.

So they recognize, right? So they don't mind to invite the horse, but if the horse do it on his own, he ended up invading. Right? So can a dog go on the couch? Can a dog goes on the bed? Absolutely. Just let the dog wait for it.

Wait in a calm surrender state. Just let the dog wait for it, wait in a calm surrender state, and then you offer this luxury. Right? So that way when the dog goes into the couch or into the bed, the dog is in a calm surrender state, not claiming. Because what happens a lot of times when the dog does it on his own, he claims. Right? I wonder if that's the same German Shepherd I'm talking about. Again, I'm not going to say her name because she's lying down. But she's very, very greedy, like almost obsessive eater. Like, eats everything all the time, always kind of...

Which I've never... I mean, we've always had German Shepherds. I've never had one who was kind of like that. Who was like, almost like a compulsive eater sort of thing. It's weird. Well, when a dog doesn't have like a good outlet for work, right? They also can develop obsessions, right? Because they're confused. What do I do with this energy?

Right? I'm a dog. I'm a German Shepherd. So there is two things that this dog needs to fulfill, the dog in them and the German shepherd in them. Right? Remember, affection is energy given to the dog. So a lot of times people give affection to the dog while the dog has not worked yet.

Oh, right, right, right. So I give affection when I empty the tank of the body and when I empty the tank of the mind, then I give affection. Right. Cause then I'm going to give affection to a calm surrender dog. Right. Then the dog is going to say, Oh, my human loves me when I'm totally calm surrender. But he truly loves me because he knows how to drain the tank of the body and the

tank of the mind. Those are two different from affection. Right. Right. It's like literally like a, like a Navy seal, right. It's body, mind. Those are two different from affection. Right. Right. It's like literally like a Navy seal. Right. It's body mind. Right. So animals or dogs to me are more like Navy seals. Certainly. Certainly. Mine are right now. They're looking at me with a great deal of suspicion. They've heard they've heard your voice before. You're like, what's going on? What's going on? What's going on? Yeah. How does then, because I'm interested in when we're talking about the technology and the

halo collar, how does that actually work then? What does it do? Well, a lot of people, you know, here in America, their biggest dream is the American dream, you know, is for me was to become the best doctor in the world. That was my dream, right? And I, and to come to America is where the value dog at value dogs at this level, it was the only place, right? And, and so for, for American people, walking a dog off leash or going to the beach without the leash is a big dream. Right?

But, but then the nose of the dog is gonna kick in and it's gonna move. So if the dog doesn't have clear boundaries, it's gonna keep going. He's gonna come back, but people are gonna get scared. Or the dog can get a little bit distracted and not know how to come back. Because he's not allowed to practice that, like dogs in Mexico. A dog in Mexico comes out of the house, he goes to the next town and comes back, right? And comes back, so we don't have to worry about the halo collar, right? So the dog maintains his instincts.

So what I'm doing with the halo collar is bringing back the instincts so your fear can go away. So your hesitation of not trusting your dog right can go away, right? Because now with the halo we're going to have this invisible boundary that you can't see. They can only feel it. So you're going to be able to put it through your phone. I want my dog to be a hundred feet away from me when I'm at the beach. And you can change the distance, right?

You can just create whatever distance you want. And so once the dog hits, or is about to get close to the hundred feet, the dog receives the message. Obviously you train the dog before you go into this real case scenario. And so that way you can go and take a nap on the beach and the dog can still have fun.

Because now it's inside this halo. So is it like a shock collar of thing? Is it is it like a like an electrical? So you understand so everybody understand the sensation of the shock right? When do they do it or when does that happen? If the level of intensity is a 10 you need something like that but if the level of intensity is 0 to 5 you can just do vibration or you can just do and that snaps the brain out of it, right? So your parents did it with you. So if from zero to five, but if you went to five to ten, instinctually there is a physical contact to snap you out of it.

You see it? So the shock is not to hurt you. The shock is to snap you out of it. And that's because your intensity is too high, low, medium, high. Right? So I tell people, listen, if your dog is zero to five and you've done the homework right, you're only going to use vibration and sound and eventually repetitions of that, you don't need it because the dog knows what's expected at the beach. The dog knows it's a hundred feet. The dog knows if you go to the dog park. When you are in the city, the dog knows you want hundred feet the dog knows is you know if you go to the to the dog part When you are in the city the dog knows you want them in the intimate space

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Right? So it takes 21 days to create a new habit. Right. Right? So in 21 days, if you do it takes 21 days to create a new habit. Right. Right? So in 21 days, if you do it exactly what we tell you to do, the dog will develop the understanding. Right? So it's not that bad. 21 days for you to be consistent. Yeah. So let's say every day, 5 a.m., you do the da-da-da. So it needs to be some kind of ritual, right? So the dog expect a note. So the human feels this way. The human is wearing the shoes. Because they pay attention to everything, right? And that's how you develop a habit. You see it in the beginning, the routine.

Yeah, you need to create a routine. So the dog knows, you know, 5 a.m. means this, the smell of this means this, the, you know, what I see, what I hear, all of that is involved. The dog learn nose, eyes, ears. It's through the nose of a dog. Right? Yeah. The eyes and the last thing is the ears. So put in the leash on the dog.

Yes, put in the leash on the dog. I don't say a word. Show the leash. The dog comes. I put the leash on. I wait for the dog to relax put in the leash on the dog. I don't say a word, show the leash, the dog comes, I put the leash on. I wait for the dog to relax and then I move. I do that every single day. They see the leash. It means calmness.

We're going for a walk. Right. So, so it's interesting because I do like the opposite. I'll say, I'm not going to say the W word right now. It'll go crazy. You see? Yeah. You got to spell it.

You got to spell the W word right now. It'll go crazy. You see? Yeah. You got to spell it. You got to spell the word. Right. So when I did my first consultation in LA, people were telling me, spell the word. Don't say ball. Spell it. I was learning English. I didn't know how to spell. Right.

But they were telling me to spell it. So you see, so when you started a ritual of a walk, you want to go for a walk? You see, so when you started a ritual of a walk, you wanna go for a walk? What you create is this euphoric expectation when a dog can't contain themselves. And then you put a leash on, and then people say, wait, wait, wait, wait, stay, sit, wait, sit, wait, wait, we're going,

we're going, don't worry about it. See, the humans start talking a lot, a lot. So the more you talk, the more you create this frantic energy. Shh. And as soon as you open the door, right? Yeah. And then my dog comes down 10 minutes later. I know, but it's going to be a bad habit.

So the person is not as strong as you are. That dog cannot be walked by a toddler versus the way I create a ritual. A toddler can walk the pack of dogs that I have. That's very interesting to me. The way I create a ritual, a toddler can walk the pack of dogs that I have. That's very interesting to me. It really is. It's peaceful. It's peaceful working with. If I'm going to get the halo collar, right?

So, because I am. What I want to do, like there's instructions with it and how to use it and how to do all that? Yes. Okay. So the training part is you get to read it, you get to see it, we got videos and everything. But it's very important that people remember three energies that no dog people use it,

which is the silence, the calmness and the confidence. Most dog people do love, joy. You see, those are five energies, right? Silence, calmness, confidence. Those are the teaching energies. Love, confidence. Those are the teaching energies. Love, joy. Those are the reward energies. Oh, right.

Cause you want to be getting too much love joy. That's your problem. Well, they get excited. Of course they get excited. Right. And, and then the dog by receiving this energy from, from the human, the dog sees the human as a soft source of energy. Cause love is a soft source of energy. Because love is a soft source of energy, right? Versus calm confidence is a stronger source of energy. Calmness creates trust. Confidence creates respect.

Calm confidence. Therefore you can give direction protection, right? So what is what is what we all humans want from our pack leaders, from our presidents to be calm, confident, love, joy. Right. Because we want safe, peace, love. We want trust, respect, love. We want to be able to do exercise, discipline, affection activities. Right.

It makes a, it makes a great deal of sense when you put it that way. Let me ask you this. How did you come to this? How did, I mean, do you have a dog right now? I have a pack of dogs. Yeah, you do? You have a lot of dogs? I'm a pack guy.

I'm a pack guy. You know what I mean? And Latinos, we're like, oh, it's all about the pack. We can't be by ourselves. It's all about the pack. You know? So how many dogs do you have? Right now we got 10 only. Because I travel a lot.

Right? I travel a lot. But I started with 65. I started with 65. I raised my two kids, Andre and Calvin, among a pack of dogs. Right? Now they're helping me. One is 30, the other one is 26.

So they learn the energy, the philosophy, the actions. We have a ranch. We got a pitch in. They got a pitch in in the pack. So right now we got 10 because I travel all over the world because I want to help the whole world. That's fabulous. So 10 is okay.

Do your dogs, do you travel with, the dogs can't travel with you, old 10 dogs, surely. When I go to England, it's hard because an island, right? If I go to Australia, it's hard to bring them there. But, but any other, like, I brought my pitbulls to Europe and we did a tour and, you know, to show, you know, the people about, plus they were in love with daddy and junior when they were alive and, you know, the Europeans wanted to see them. And so, yeah, so if you'd allow me. It's a much maligned read, the pitbull, isn't it? I've, oh, the pitbulls I've come across are, every one I've met, I have, you know, I've

heard the horror stories, but the pit bulls I've met have been very affectionate dogs. It's not the breed, it's the human behind the dog. Remember, we are the one who's creating the Doberman. We are creating, you know, the Boston Terriers. We are creating them. So we also created the pit bull. So it's our responsibility to understand what is it that we're bringing home. Right.

Because it's in every, in every breed is a dog. So I don't, I don't really focus on the breed. I focus on the dog. Focus on the dog. Different breed, we're a different race. Okay. But we're all humans. So we all need the same thing.

Sure. The breed is more like the food, the music, you know what I mean? The women we like. But you see, we're all humans. You, me as a man, we need the same things. I get it. What about, so how did you come to it? That's what I was going to ask.

Are you like a country kid? Did you grow up with a lot of dogs around in a ranch and that kind of thing? Yes. Most immigrants that come from Mexico, we come from the farm, right? So we know the land very well and we know the animals very well. So if you go to Kentucky, I guarantee you that all the guys there are Mexicans or they're Latinos, right? Taking care of the horses. Anything they have to do with the plants is, we are. We're doing it. Why? Because we come from the farm, right?

So that's our school is mother nature. Our school is the animals. And of course we're traditional. So we listen to our grandparents, right? So we come with rules, we can't well behave, wanted to work, right? So I came with that already, right? But I also came with the dream of being the best in the world. And then when I saw, I love this quote of

America, that's not what the country can do for you, what can you do for the country? And I grabbed that and said, I can teach the country how to connect, communicate, have the best relationship on earth with their dogs. And then I got the show on the dog whisper. That was my first show. I didn't came to America to get a TV show. Huge hit. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that's massive. But, but let me ask you this. Do you ever meet, uh, because the, you know, we live in the times we live in. Um, do you ever meet, uh, resistance to the word you do? Yeah. Yes. You know why? Because I use the word and back in a long time ago, dominance.

And so in the dog world, if you use that word, it's actually a negative. But I learned from watching the Lakers, the Lakers dominated the court. So to me, that's leadership. And so I start changing words from dominance to assertive to confidence. So right now everybody's okay with the word confidence. Nobody even had a problem with the word calmness. So a lot of times it's the words that I use, a lot of times it's the contact that I do with a dog. But again, I'm working with dogs who are extremely aggressive. Right.

So, so without me, they get medicated, they get isolated or put down. Right. And so I come in and I put a dog in the pack or I put a dog in the pool or whatever people don't, don't think is the right thing. By the time I finished with the dog, that dog is alive. That dog is safe. And that, that dog is safe, and that family is the happiest family on earth. That's why, you know, 20 years on TV.

So they can hate as much as they want, but the proof is in the pudding, as they say in America. Yeah, they will. Can I ask you this? What about, do you ever meet a dog, you just, I can't reach this dog, I can't do it. You know we just finished season five and I met a dog named Brunello okay and this guy came from Italy and and this lady wanted a dog with some kind of you know

handicap problems and this guy was blind deaf, and had a neurological problem. Okay? Okay. Yeah. And then it developed an obsession to grab things from the floor in a very aggressive way. To the point that one time he took the pants from the lady in the middle of the street and left her naked. So this guy is blind, he's deaf, the wires inside are not connecting.

That's neurological. That's why having dogs from puppy mills are not a good thing, guys. Because they're not breeding well-behaved genetics. Regardless, this is my work of art. Because I was, I didn't know how to influence it. Right? I didn't know how he came to hear me. He can't see me. Yeah, he can't hear you.

He can't hear you because he doesn't know how to calm down. His nose was incredible, but his nose was so obsessed to find objects. So he was, he was six years old, six years old. So for six years, he's been repeating the same thing. Well, 90 days later, we rehabilitate. Wow. Yes.

So it's a lot of. That was the toughest one. That was, yeah. It's blind and deaf. I mean, I have aggressive dogs, but they're not blind or deaf. Right. You know, so that was, that was, it shouldn't be easier because he was blind and deaf, it shouldn't be easier.

Right. But that was mind blowing to me. I never seen a case like that in my life ever, ever. So aggressiveness, aggressiveness in dogs. It's okay, baby. Aggressiveness in dogs is, uh, I mean, it's very common. Is it a manifestation of fears? The dog insecure.

Is that what it is? Well, if it's a front of the pack, it's true aggression. If it's a front of the pack, it's true aggression, right? Like a police dogs. So in order for a police officer to have a police dog, they need a front of the pack. Right. Can have middle or back.

Now when a dog is middle back and is behaving aggressive is fear Right, right because he's not supposed to give direction protection middle and back dogs They're not supposed to move forward and bite Get it, right. Right. So so most dogs are fear aggressive because there's a lot more followers than leaders are fear aggressive because there's a lot more followers than leaders. Got it. And every litter of, in every litter is only one pick of the litter. So it's only one. So you can only get one pick of the litter per litter. The rest are going to be... Does that happen in every litter then?

Yeah. Is there always one? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just go with the German shepherd people. They're doing chutzun dogs or they're doing police dogs. They get one dog per litter. The rest are pet quality or run off the litter. That's how they name it in the breeder world. Pick up the litter. Come up here. Come up here. Show me. Are you a leader dog? Are you a leader dog? Are you? Look at this dog. This is not a leader dog. That's the middle of the pack. Yeah.

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Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Can you see in every dog you see you can tell right away what you're looking at? Oh yeah. But that's what I am assessing and evaluating, right? How does a dog feel and what position that dog was born to be? Right. So I can help them.

So you, right? Because that's what they want is do you know what position, what is it born to be? Right? And do you know how I feel? Because most people, they're already, by the time they come to me, they're just devastated Right and they already created a lot of stories in their head. So my job is to reality versus story Right. Okay. This dog is has anxiety but it's a back of the pack or this dog has fear but it's a middle of the pack Right very few very few every once in a while people bring a true front of the pack.

And those are easier by the way, because they, oh my God, yes. They, they, it was a dog named Batman, a Chihuahua, but it was a front of the pack. But they treated him like it was a, a middle of the pack and this dog was just going after everybody. And so when I met, I think it's always been a front of the pack. They're always front of the pack. But you know why, right? You know why. Because people keep constantly keeping bringing it up here.

Picking them up. Picking them up. Little dogs develop this Napoleon complex because the owner do not address the situation. The owner pick the situation. So the dog end up being bigger than anything in front of them. And then they get affection. And of course the dog is going to do that. Of course. Because they've been rewarded to do it. They've been reminded to do it. People with little dogs, they pick them up. They don't address it. And so that's what the dog thinks that if I behave a certain way, I'll get

the love and so I behave that way to get the love, I get it. Yeah. I mean, right. If the dog is responding based on how the human responds. Right. It's very interesting. I'm just watching my dogs as I'm talking to you right now and the way that they're playing like the Jack Russell is lying down showing his belly and the, and the

German shepherd is licking his belly. That's like, but is that dominant? Is that submission? What's going on there? No, they're playing. They're playing. Yeah. Yeah.

It doesn't mean that much. Listen, if you close your eyes, you can feel the energy and that gives you much accurate feeling because you're not supposed to assess and evaluate things with your eyes. You're supposed to feel it. Right? You're supposed to be... That's very interesting.

Yes. Yes. So how would a cat be in that situation? The cat will feel that those dogs are playing and that's what a cat will come. But if the cat feels that there is tension in the room, the cat will stay away. Or the cat will come and stop them. Right? Yeah. That's exactly what happens here.

The cat is not around right now, but the cat's in a bad mood. And that's a whole different thing. Do you, do you ever try, do you ever try and train, uh, you do other animals too? You ever. I have two cats. I have two cats. I have a chinchilla. I have, uh, we have two, two birds.

One, the Macau helps me a lot with the personal space. And then we have llamas, alpacas. So I created a community the way I grew up with different animals so people can see that their dogs can mingle with other species. So one day when you come to LA, I want you to come to see this 43 acres city that I created.

I'd love to see that. It's like my own Universal Studios. Yeah. And then one thing that we should do when you come is we bring a really bad case so you can experience the transformation in the moment. Maybe I can bring my dogs. Bring your dogs, of course. Bring the dogs and I can help them introduce if you never introduced it to a llama or to chickens

or to cats or whatever you want, right? So I can break it down for you. That's definitely a much better way for people to experience what I talk about energy, philosophy, actions, trust, respect, love, safe, peace, love. It's very interesting because to hear you talk about it is makes so much sense and yet it kind of is different.

Come up here, come up here and say hi. Come on. Oh, no, not like that. But it's very different to the way that I've been behaving with the dogs. I love my dogs, but I kind of reward them for doing the wrong thing. And I think that's where I'm going wrong. I get it. Right.

It's very interesting. So if, if we become more simple, right. More, more natural, then we go after calm, surrender, happy, go lucky. So that's what I give affection to. I don't have front of the pack. I don't need front of the pack. Right. I, I rescue middle and back of the pack dogs.

Right. Cause they're going to accept your dog quicker than the front of the pack, right? I rescue middle and back of the pack dogs. Right. Because they're going to accept your dog quicker than the front of the pack. Right. Right? So I can have 10, 20, 30, right? And so that way I carry the front of the pack or my kids or anybody that works with me, they carry that position. So it's like you have in a business and you leave the business and then somebody has to carry that position. Right. You get it? So same thing with a pack of dogs. No, everybody gets to be the CEO, right?

It's like the front of the pipe dog is CEO. Front of the pack, that's right. Right, right, got it. In a family of humans and animals or dogs is all the humans become CEO in order for your children to do, you know, what they need to do when you're not there. Which is great. It's a good responsibility, It's a good activity. Eventually our kids can practice calm confidence or love joy, or they can

practice all of them at the same time. Calm, confident, love joy. Cause that's what I do. You know, when I'm helping people, I am calm, confident, love joy. Do you never, it's funny how you, you seem like a very confident man as well. You seem like you know what you're doing and you're getting it done. Did you ever experience doubt when you were starting out? Did you ever like think, I don't know if I'm going to be able to figure this out

or you just always felt like you had an affinity with the animal and that, that was, you knew what you needed to do. When it came to my goal in life, I never had hesitation. Right. It's like Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi. I'm guarantee you that those guys never hesitated for that, but When it came to my goal in life, I never had hesitation. Right. It's like Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi. I'm guarantee you that those guys never hesitated for that, but I'm pretty sure that we had weaknesses in some other areas. Right.

Right. So like any other man, like, yeah, we were good here, but we're not good here. So I had, I had, I had a great relationship with animals all my life, or with, with dogs on my life, not necessarily with women. Right. So that was my weakness. My weakness is not knowing how to choose the right female for me. Right.

My guess is you don't want to go front of the fact. Don't go front of the fact. I get it. You see, it's very interesting. Do you think that you learned how to deal with people more from dealing with dogs? Is it informed in any way or is it like a completely different set of rules? Well, the human rationalizes, so the human goes right into the story. Right?

So when the story and the emotions get together, this human takes a lot longer to move on. Right? story and the emotions get together, this human takes a lot longer to move on. Right. So, but when you go back into your spirituality, you know, live in, live in the moment type of thing, and it's about life and death, and then you are more to the reality, right? So, so a lot of times people don't want to live in the reality. So I have to help them come from their story to the reality. With a dog, they don't want to live in the story, they want to live in the reality. Right.

They want to be happy, healthy, loving, smart. And the human is like, hey, you can be happy today. No, no, no, no. Not right now, I'm not ready. Some people postpone happiness. Some people postpone health. Forever.

Some people postpone love. Some postpone forever, right? Some people postpone being smart. And smart doesn't mean like Elon Musk smart. No, I'm talking about just smart. Just make the right decisions. Make good decisions. Remember good things. What I tell my kids, the mind is for three things. To learn, to achieve, and to teach. That's a good use of the mind. Otherwise, your spirit can tell you what to do, your instinct can tell you what to do, and your heart can tell you what to do.

So trust your spirit, respect your instinct, love with the heart, create with the mind. Right? Because that's how I did what I became. I became the dog whisperer because I trust my spirit, respect my instinct, love with my heart, create with my mind. It's fair. It's a much more kind of spiritual approach than I thought. Are you a religious man? Yeah. Well, I grew up Catholic, but I don't go to church, but I do believe in God, right?

I do believe that God is the pack leader. He gives you direction, protection, as well He gives you love and joy. But He first gives you direction, protection, right? Right, right, right. So for me, God first gives you the masculine energy, then it gives you the feminine energy. Right? Yes. I get it. I get it. It's very fascinating approach to and clearly successful. I mean, I don't know if it's just a coincidence and you can't see right now, but both of my dogs are lying on my feet like good dogs. And they're both behaving very well, which I don't understand because-

You're learning. So, so if, if when we get into the zone of learning and we like it, and then this calmness comes in and then our mind goes into this, yeah, that's making sense. That feels good. Right. And so that creates a different vibration that creates, you don't have to tell a dog lay down. You just have to feel calm, confident and the dog will do the rest.

Yeah. Right. So that's why often I don't talk. It's fascinating. It's interesting because I, in order to get the dogs to do what I want, I thought I had to get them excited. And it's kind of the opposite, right? It's like the, you don't want to do that.

Tell the horse people to do that. Tell, hey, the horse people, see the horse people make the horse going forward, backwards, sideways, whatever they want, but they don't do it excited. They do it calmly, quietly and a lot of body language, a lot of intention, right? So the horse have to feel what you want, know what you want. And it's all about never losing the trust and respect from the horse. Right. And how do you achieve that?

Silence, calmness, confidence. You see, so if it works for a horse, it works for a dog. It should be easier with a dog because a dog is being domesticated for such a long time that he wants to be with the human. Yeah. This one does. Come on, man. Come on. Come on, come on over, come on over and say hi. We need, we gotta go, but I just want you to say hi. Say hi one more time.

One more time. One more time. There you go, baby. There you go. Hey, is it true that- You're more than welcome to come to the ranch. I'd love, you want to go to the ranch? I'm inviting her.

to come to the ranch. I'd love, you want to go to the ranch? I'm inviting her. Is it true that they get some kind of dopamine from the ear scratch thing? Is that a thing? Any massage. Any massage. If you find that spot, right? Because not every dog like the ears, right?

They all have the spot. Once you find the spot, then you have the other level, which is something that among dogs, they don't get to practice. That's where we have to take advantage. That we can trigger this dopamine for a long period of time if we want to. We can create hypnosis in the dog if we know how to do it. And the dog will just stay hypnotized for a long period of time. That's the Jack Russell if we do that under his chin and sing him

Tura Lura Lura the Irish song. Zones right out. So that's right. Is that right Seamus? That is right. Listen it's been so nice to talk to you I feel like my dogs are better I'm a better, everything's working out great. Thank you. Oh, are you okay? Are you okay? Oh brother. The dog fell off the chair. Oh sweetheart, you're all right. Thank you so much for being on and when we're out in LA, I'd love to come and see that.

Please. I really would. Yeah, that's once in a lifetime, you have to see it, the world have to experience it because you know, it's a very magical place. I have helped a lot of lives there. And the energy, you can feel the energy. I would love to see that. Thank you.

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