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Episode Date: July 22, 2025

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Hello everyone, my name's Craig Ferguson. Welcome to Brooklyn, New York, to the Kids Super Studios here in Williamsburg, where we're coming at you live from a tent inside a warehouse, which is a studio, and also a fashion place, it's a whole thing. Anyway, look, my guest today is a New York legend, a good friend of mine. He's also a realtor as well as, well you're gonna hear a whole

bunch of stuff. Please welcome the wonder Mr. New York, Jean No Philippon. I remember the day we met, because I'd heard about you before, but we met on my 61st birthday. Did we? Yeah. It was my birthday that day. Oh my God. When I put you in my car? Yep.

We went in your car and we, first of all, you're the only person ever I ever met who said, I love driving in Manhattan. And you were driving around Manhattan. And I have good parking. Yeah, you have very good parking skills and you can drive around and you enjoy it. And I've never encountered that. And it was my 61st birthday and you found me a rental apartment on 82nd street. And then I, uh, through that period, you said, I remember you said on that day,

uh, you'll buy in the next couple of years, you'll move back to New York. Within two years, I had moved back to New York. Whole family moved everybody back. That was it. You were very smart to do it that way. You know, you didn't just go out and buy, you wanted to rent. And I kept saying, well, the market is really dipping, but it dipped further. It dipped more. It's still going to dip a little more. You think so? Maybe a little bit. I was looking at some houses on the upper East side, some apartments in the upper East side. I'm like, that's very reasonable for what it is. But I do like a lot of people,

the Trulia app or the Street Easy app in New York, that's my porn. Yeah, me too. I always say that. But you're real, amongst other things, you're a realtor though. It makes sense for you to look at it. But the- But I'll tell you what I love about it is now there's so much off-market opportunity. So you're amongst other things you're a realtor though. It makes sense for you to look at it, but the.

But I'll tell you what I love about it is now there's so much off market opportunity. So there's like, well, there's me in my building. So a broker who knows who's seasoned, who knows me is going to call and go, do you have anything coming up? Do you have anybody that you think would sell? And there's always off market opportunities. And now I've already, we moved into our apartment,

I guess, what, like three months ago, and I'm already looking at the apartment next door. Oh, I told you to start, I mean, is she incapacitated yet, that lady? No, she's fine, she's very nice. That's the broker right now. No, no, she's very nice. I keep like a leader over at the top of the stairs,

say, let me help you down this, oh no! But it's fine. But you know why I was, I was looking at your bio today and I had no idea. None. And I know you pretty well at this point about the wedding thing. What's that? Tell me about that. So I was in New York City. So everything I've ever done has been in New York. Are you from New York City? Were you born here? I'm from New York. I just, I'm not from the city, but my grandparents owned a big company

and they did all the billboards. And my father was a street guy from Parkchester, the Bronx. So we were raised here a lot. All right. Anyway, but I mean, I grew up in the suburbs a little bit outside. And I became a New York City tour guide. I speak Italian and I used to pick them up at JFK

and give them tours. And I hate the Italians, cause the Italians, all they want to hear about is love stories and they didn't really want to connect. And the British were very refined. They would listen to you. You know, people in the UK have degrees to do this. I was just a licensed tour guide.

And so I think also it's something to do with the accent in Britain as well. People sound smarter than they are. They're not that smart. Possibly. Um, and then I really like wearing trousers. Now if Americans, I like wearing pants. But I enjoy wearing trousers. How do I say this?

There is a certain perversity to the Brits that they kind of hide and I was able to tap into. So I started doing night tours with them, taking them to sex clubs, Hell's Fires, and all these things. And you'd see these people in literally Burberry skirts going to like a two o'clock in the morning and some guy was licking their toe at the bar.

But that's what they were paying for. The first thing I realized was they weren't interested so much in the culture, they study, they knew it. I gave them the tour and then it was like, do you really wanna see New York now? And so I would take them to a, I wouldn't do the after hours first, I would do a night tour where I had a couple in the West Village, Irish Americans,

need I say more? We're doing the drinking thing. And they said, I went to them and I said, would you consider opening your house like three times a week to 50 breads each time? And they go, and I said to have cocktails, and they went, well, we're middle-class, we would have to serve our dervs too.

I go, that's fine. And they had taken out a floor. So it was like walking into a loft with a big garden on Jane Street. It was incredible. I found them just from knocking on doors. You went to people's houses and said, hey, will you do-

Single family houses, because people, New Yorkers down in the village are very creative and they like that. So I sold the tour as a night out with a dinner at Chumley's which was an old speakeasy on Barrows. I remember Chumley's. You had to go through somebody's house to get in. So first we would go to Bobby and Jack Gillan's place

and they had a big rescue German shepherd that was crazy, was knocking drinks all over and they didn't understand the Brits asking, I love the way the British ask for drinks, as it's poured, Scotch as it's poured, or what is the other line they would say if they asked for, not ginger ale, what's the common drink? Anyway, the G&T would mix it up and put 7 up instead, but all the drinks were filled up to the top, you know? So everybody was just falling out of the townhouse. When is this, in the eighties?

We're talking late eighties, early nineties. So like the village in the late- I was like 17. Yeah, I was gonna say, the village in the 1980s and 1990s is a different, slightly less family-friendly village than it is now. No? I still think it's pretty artsy

and there are some single family town homes. You know, the taxes became very expensive and they were making, they charged me at the time, $20 per person. So 150 people a week times $20, it was good with the math. Yeah, what's that? It's like a million dollars. Right, they were getting a million dollars a week

off of me in cash and they loved it. I was paying their taxes. It was like a million dollars. Right, they were getting a million dollars a week off of me in cash and they loved it. I was paying their taxes. It was like having someone. How did you get that though? I mean, how did you get that? What's going on? Oh, right. I was doing it and I just thought people wanted,

people were bored. You know, when you're a tour guide in New York, you always sit on the bus facing the people to see their reaction. And I could see everything was falling flat. It's like being a comedian going, Oh my God, how am I going to get out of this? How dare you? How fucking dare you? Not you, but others have experienced it.

Yeah. Anyway, we, um, I said, you know, let me come up with something different. Cause they kept asking me how do people live in this city? And, um, I was like, well, the same way they live in London, but it really, these weren't, these weren't London refined people. These were people from, you know, other parts of the suburbs. Let me ask you this though. How did you know about the sex clubs? I knew that from a lot of tour guides started after our, there was one guy named Giuseppe who lived on a houseboat on

79th street and he would take four people. That's all we had were four, like at the time, nobody was really into it. We would go to do a sex club tour to take cause they wanted to experience New York. What goes on at sex? I've never, I swear I've never been to a sex club. What happens? It's, you know, it's pretty much everything that you can imagine. People just like have sex and then other people watch them? I think it's more about a fet sex and then other people watch them. I think it's more about a fetish and less about the sex part.

Right. So it's all of the, you know, there's a lot of licking and there's a lot of playing and toying. It feels like that's dogs. Well, now at our age, of course it's our dog. I mean, I get disgusted when my dog lifts up his leg when he goes to the bathroom. I don't want to see that. Well, wait, so people, so if you're on a sex club tour and you go to the sex club, will someone say, Hey, do you want your leg licked and they'll lick your leg and stuff that they loved it.

I feel like I was just annoying. And it didn't get your leg. And that wasn't an optional tour that was, that was included in the price. So you, now they'd be going, so you want your leg licked, it's extra. There's a menu. Once you go in, you're like, get licked whether you like it or not. Any or not, yeah, that's it.

You were just, you had to participate. I don't know if it's- Well, Hell's Fire used to be below 14th Street, where the Guggenheim is now, but you used to have to check your clothes to get in and just have your underwear on. Then they would say to me, look, you're coming in with these people, We understand, but we can't just have like

onlookers. They have to kind of participate. So I said, less is more. That was the name of the tour. I know, they took their clothes off? Yeah, I mean, 40 people is a lot. I started out with four and four were paying 500 each. It was so expensive. And you know who, let's talk cultures now. Italians loved it. The Italians, like they would take you, hey, talk cultures now. The Italians loved it. The Italians like they would take you, hey, this is sure. I take my clothes off, they lick my leg. The British wanted the experience. I'd like to have my leg lit by someone in New York,

as part of the experience. It was magical and that's how that kind of started. It started from me just saying, hey. I left in New York, round about that time. Well, I was here in the mid eighties, early mid eighties. We probably crossed paths. May well have done. And I remember the only sex club I'd heard of,

and I never went there, but I always wanted to go, was a place called Plato's Retreat. Oh God, that's so seventies. Was that seventies? Oh my God, that was Brazil. That was like the first one, yes. Did you go? No, I just remember seeing ads for it

in the Village Voice and I was like, oh, I really want to go. Cause I'm like a Scottish Protestant boy. I'm like, oh, I bet they've got their jumpers off in there. You were ready to roll. The big one was Hell's Fire and then the Lesquilito, which was underneath Port Authority bus terminal. And there were drag shows.

I was doing theater then as well. You know, when I travel, I know this sounds ridiculous, but I always hire a private, like in Prague, I hired a private tour guide. Did you go to a sex club? I wanted to see everything, not the sex clubs. No, but I wanted to see off the beaten path, the whole thing.

What is a sex clubs? Well, yeah. It sounds like they're on the beaten path, if you forgive the pun. Well. They, uh, they, uh, but they, I kind of, I'm fascinated by this, but the idea that all of this is, is it still going on?

Are there still sex clubs? I'm too old. I go to bed at nine now. What do I know? I'm sure they are past the baton to a lovely group of people. The beauty is you buy and you sell. I think the Gen Zers, they don't have. They don't? Everything's done online now. Apparently, yeah.

Do you remember the days when you met someone in a bar and then you would hook up and then after they left, you took your clothing and hung it on the radiator because it smelled of smoke and that was the only way the smoke would get out. I mean, that's how it used to be. If I hook up with someone in a bar, I would set my clothes on fire and pretend it never happened.

You were very, you would have been a star on this tour. But the, the idea of it though, I think apps have probably taken that all of that away, like, cause you, you can, like, if you want, I mean, right back in the day, when some of the like real kind of full on clubs in the village, I think that's probably all on Grindr and Tinder and stuff. Yeah, that's all gone. I don't think there's gonna, you don't think you strap into your leather

and get your whistle and go nuts in a dark room? I mean, I'm too old for this, but I'm hearing now you can just meet people. I mean, they track you. You can be in the same restaurant and say, let's meet in the men's room. I've had friends that constantly say they hook up, like in the moment.

I feel there might be, you can get, there'll be fresh STDs coming or if it's that easy. I mean, I feel like, shouldn't you interview someone a little bit? I would think so, but I mean, they can read your bio. Yeah, I guess. No one can hide really. I mean, it's kind of like, you can't assume an identity now.

You can't like- I bet the majority of people that are together have met online. You know, I think probably now, I can't like- I bet the majority of people that are together have met online. You know, I think probably now, I think, yeah, if you're, and how did you meet Flory? Online. You met, no. Literally AOL, you put money in the machine

and it was one of those. Choo choo, choo choo, choo choo. Yep. Wow. He's not gonna like that I said that. No, I think it's fine. I think it's, I mean, we can cut it out if you want, but it's kind of amazing to me.

You must've been quite early adopters then. It was the beginning. I mean, AOL. You've got mail. Ha ha ha. Bing. There it is. Someone wants to lick your leg.

And it was fun. It was mysterious. It was that, in a nice way, that erotic place of, that took place of going to a sex club. Cause you had this fantasy of what the person was gonna be like when you met them. Right. And obviously it worked out 20 something years later.

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Brought to you by the USDA Forest Service, your state forester and the Ad Council. So how did that turn into the wedding thing then? Because two tourists said to me, two British tourists, I'll never forget, they said, we really loved your tour Dino. I said, well, it's Gino actually. And then would you help us get married? I'm going to call you Dino. I like Dino.

I mean, would I help you get married? And I'm thinking, is there a dollar to be made in this? So I said, I'll get back to you. What hotel are you in? I'll be right there. Ran down to City Hall and it's when they have the old bulletproof windows, it was like the set of Barney Miller. Right. Yeah, ticket number, and then I looked a little bit

into it and I realized that I could coordinate these weddings because countries are different. Like the UK, from my recollection, you file and it's 11 days you have to wait. Yeah, you also have to be interviewed by the radio monitor. See, and Paris, in France it's two weeks. And you must eat a certain soft cheese. Vegas, it's like, what are you doing later?

So we are 24 hours in New York. Right. And that was always established to give the couple time to realize, are we gonna, do we really wanna do this? Oh, it's not like you can get married 24 hours a day. You have to wait 24 hours like buying a gun. Yeah. Right. Okay. Yes. Is that what it is for a gun? Jesus. I don't know what it is in New York. There are certain states,

the state where I have my other place is go buy a gun. I'll remember when I come and visit you. Remember that when you come and visit. Just to not be rude to anybody. I'm a citizen and I have a driver's license. I think you know what I'm saying. Oh my God. So yeah, and I have a driver's license. I think you know what I'm saying. Oh my God. So yeah, so I realized I could do it

and then I coordinated it and then it just happened. I opened up this company, the tour company was called Ultimate USA Tours and then I opened up Ultimate USA Weddings and we had contracts with British Airways, Cawoney, Virgin holidays, everyone. So we would package the weddings, weddings abroad and they would sell them. And so I would give them a discounted rate, but we would get, you know,

you come and get married in New York and then we would arrange for the license. Right. We would script the ceremony. We would get the vows. Oh yeah. I got ordained online. So you're a rabbi Gino. You're a rabbi.

I'm a vicar. Are you a vicar or a rabbi? What are you? I'm anained online. So you're a... Rabbi Gino. You're a rabbi? I'm a vicar. Are you a vicar or a rabbi? I'm an officiant. All right, so you have no... it's a secular position, you have no religious affiliation. Well, I mean, I will do anything as long as I don't have to slaughter an animal. There's no sac... anything I will do, I've done yarmulkes, I've done... you know, I did a Jewish wedding because my friend married an Orthodox guy and for some reason his divorce had not been completely finished yet. And so they had this 200 person, highly Orthodox wedding,

and they went through the whole ceremony, but it wasn't legal. And then three days later, I met them in a Mexican restaurant on 9th Avenue. Because I like the idea of getting married in a Mexican restaurant. I think that's a good one. I like the idea, again, we go back to that kind of slightly perverse thing of like, oh my God, nobody knows this is Zafaris except me. And in three days when the divorce clears,

I'm gonna meet them at Il Cantiona or whatever the Mexican place was, La Cantina, and we're gonna make this official. So that's what I started doing. I mean, we've spent quite a lot of time together talking to you. You didn't know that. I just, it's never come up. You just never, do I talk about myself a lot?

Is that what it is? No, we talk about you. No, we talk about Megan and how beautiful she is. We talk about my wife and how beautiful she is. She is beautiful. She is very beautiful. And she's fun. But I will say I married 2000 people.

Good Lord. And 90% of them were Brits. And you guys do it the interesting way. It is different that Americans should listen to. I can attest to this. All right. You meet in school, this is the general Brit. You meet in school.

This is definitely not my story. You date, you buy a house together, you have a child, and then you fly to New York and Dino marries you. Well, you know why? Why? Because the tax in Britain, you get no tax break for being married in Britain. Oh really?

Yeah, if you're married to someone, they file a tax return, you file a tax return, there's no filing, joint filing, that's not gonna happen. So there's no financial incentive to get married. You get married because you wanna get married, but there's no kind of like, if we get married, uh, you know, it's, I don't know, it's different. Out of 2000 weddings, I probably did only a hundred Americans.

Can you tell when people meet? Immediately. As soon as they walk in. Do you keep in touch? You know how many of them have last? I'm dying to know. I do see on Facebook, like they're having kids. And in my case, some of them have last? I'm dying to know. I do see on Facebook like they're having kids. And in my case, some of them are even had,

their kids are having kids. I want to kill myself every time I see that. I know, but very few times I'll get an email going, Hey, he died. I mean, what a show that would be. I'm telling you, if you put me on the evening news in the UK, people would just, their tea cups would shake. They would go, Oh my God, that's our, that's Gino.

That's the wedding guy, that's Dino the wedding guy. Dino the wedding guy. Dino the wedding guy. Oh my Lord, it's Dino from New York. He's back. He's back and he's married us. Do you like, That would be a fun reality show,

driving through the UK to see who's, you know, I think that's a great idea, actually. I think we should do it. In fact, I think you and I should do it together. Oh, I think it's fun. Who's driving? Well, I can't drive there because I get confused on the other side of the road. I'm such a good New Yorker.

I'm going to tell you what I tell everyone when they talk about my early sexuality. I say, you've got to try it both ways before you know, before you know which you prefer. So, you know, if you like driving on one side of the street, try driving on the other side, see what it feels like. So, you know, if you like driving on one side of the street, try driving on the other side, see what it feels like. Then you'll know.

And sometimes people can drive on any side of the street. It's not the sides as much. You know what drives me crazy in the UK? The roundabouts. Oh God, they're the worst. They are terrible. And you always miss it. And I hate that they're coming to America now.

They are? Oh yeah, if you go outside of Manhattan, which I don't like to do as you know, but if you do there, they have roundabouts, they have the traffic circles and they, and you know, Americans are not great with them. We're not great with them. We were like, right. Stop and where's the stuff side?

Yeah. I know. You gotta be very careful. It's horrible. Yeah. When you go to targets or places like that, you know, in the suburbs, they have them. They have them. Yeah. Well, I'll look out for them. But I think that's a good idea. I could drive you around. I can show you

where things are in Britain and we can go and meet the, uh, the people that you got married or the grandchildren. It's significant. I'm telling you, you would not. It's quite a lot. That's a lot of people. I actually have been in bars with my partner. I was in the Hamptons once and a drink came over and the guy said, that woman said that you married her. And in the UK, I got stopped a few times. Every time we go to London. I know the odds. And I think I sent a picture,

but I was sitting in a cafe in New York City and a woman, I'm sitting and so I'm facing the window with a friend, just having like a lunch. And this woman kept walking by staring at me and I was like, oh, whatever, and I'm talking to her. And then finally she put her phone up to the window and it said, Gino, you married my husband, your uncle and I 10 years ago.

It was the cover of my book. That's what it is. It's her like this with the picture and on her, not the picture of her, on her iPhone. I was like, oh my God, of course I didn't remember her, but. Do you, well see I get that with late night. I did over 2000 late nights. When I think about it, you did as many weddings

as I did on late night. That's a lot. Well let's think about the price difference. Jesus, shoot me. Well, I don't know. Like volunteer work, what I did. I don't, how much were they paying you for a wedding? Nothing.

Really? We would just rack it up with like, do you want hair and makeup? How about a limousine? Anything I could sell. I'm the extra guys. I like to sell the other stuff. What about the,

did you ever do like a sex club night before thing? Did you, cause I've taken it back to the sex club. Those weren't, I didn't do that, but I did marry a couple in bed at the Plaza Hotel. They were in bed. Come in. I was like, okay. Yeah, who was the witness?

Were you the witness? It was my assistant, Marissa, who used to come to the weddings with me. And she would have the license and everything. And I would go, what are we walking into? She goes, I don't know, they paid, blah, blah, blah. I said, great. Sometimes we would do 10, 11 weddings a day.

A day? It was like that. Oh yeah, I mean, how do you. I said, great. You know, sometimes we would do 10, 11 weddings a day. A day? It was like that. Oh yeah. I mean, how do you get to 2000? And a lot of these people stayed together? I don't know. I have no idea. There was one really interesting one where Marissa said to me, and she was a beautiful,

she's still alive, beautiful Latin American girl. And she said, I think the groom has a crush on me. And the groom was very handsome. And then the bride came down, I think it was also at the plaza, down the stairs. And the moment she was at the stairs, she saw the connection between my assistant and you know, and then she turned around and walked away.

Yeah, oh, I've had a lot of grooms say, I can't go through with it, or brides. That's incredible. The most embarrassing moment though is, you know what it is, when you go to city hall with a British couple, they have to write down who their parents are on the license. And a lot of them don't know. In Britain? Yeah, my mother met this guy in the bar.

We're usually, we procreate by children floating down the river on baskets made of reeds. I said, I used to say to them all, and then if they say that, they can't go through with the paperwork. So we would have to say in advance, so you're clear about, you're putting your parents down because if not, John Doe is a perfect name, just anything you want. You're allowed to write John Doe. Yeah, it just goes on the license. Who cares?

Isn't that fascinating? The things you learn, like what a moment for somebody to say, I don't know who my father was. My mother met him in a bar and that was it. Now it'd be like, you know, okay, it's probably not even on the license anymore. I feel like soon you'll have to do, like you'll have to give blood so they can keep track of you. That was the old days. You had to do blood tests.

Did you really? Yes. They have that that thing in, they have that app, you've heard of this app, it's in Iceland. So many people are related, they have this app, so you have to check to see you're not related to the person. What else are you gonna do in Iceland? Well, yeah, no. I mean, you know, two hours of light a day, you're gonna, you know. Let's go and see Björk again. I've been there,

by the way. What, Iceland? Reindeer, I don't think so. Yeah, they want to, no, I'm not eating that. Oh my God. Oh, they eat the reindeer. Do you know what Iceland, the only time I've been to Iceland, I stopped at Reykjavik airport for the change planes and I had some Icelandic chocolate.

The worst chocolate I've ever tasted. Ever had, did it go right through you? It tasted like seal. There's nothing better than British chocolate. Yeah, British chocolate? It's the best. Yeah, I think so. Oh my God. Cadbury. Forget it. This is crap here.

I haven't had a Hershey bar since I was. This is pretty good chocolate in New York. I know what you're saying. The mass produced chocolate is probably not as good as the British stuff, but I will say this. It's the crisps in Britain again. We are the potato chips. They have like duck and, you know, spaghetti-flavoured chips. I mean, they're unbelievable. They're creative. And they're delicious. Here we got your Doritos. You got your Doritos. But what we do here is we dip them in things. They don't dip them in things in Britain because they don't need to.

Right. They're already delicious. Right. I gain so much weight when I go to Britain. Like, I'm still things in Britain because they don't need to. Right. They're already delicious. Right. I gain so much weight when I go to Britain. Like I'm still working on getting- You were looking very svelte. We got, thank you. I have been working very hard.

I know, you told me you're really doing it. Well, I've got this game show coming up when I'm doing Scrabble. So I felt like all my late night show suits, I was like, oh, I'll just wear them on this game show and none of them fit me. So- Now you're gonna have to borrow my clothes. No, like, Oh, I'll just wear them on this game show. And none of them fit me. So now you're going to have to borrow my clothes. It's all right. First of all, I've got those suits,

but I can get into them again now. Yeah. I'm very excited about it. I haven't had any stress. Yeah. Thank you. You are, you know, you know exactly what to wear. I feel like if you're in a suit, you're in charge. It's a power thing. I know I still wear them. Yeah. I mean, I always wear a jacket.

I mean, look, I'm out. You always wear a nice jacket. I've noticed you on a city bike, bike wearing a nice jacket. I'm always on city bike. It's my porn. I love city bike. I live for it.

I don't know if it's just that I'm cheap or what, because I have saved thousands of dollars because I don't love the subway so much anymore. I don't love the crowds and I get, because I'm a suburban kid and I grew up on a bike, I get stimulated when I'm on a bike. It excites me. I get really happy. Okay. Explain.

Is it like in a sex club? No, not that we're back to those clubs. Yeah. I just find it fascinating that they have sex clubs. I just love to get, yeah, that was what a life. I love to get on the bike. It makes me happy. I would have rode here, but I was like, oh my God.

I'm actually gonna take a bike home. You are? Yeah, because the, I just found out that you could, there's a city bike place just next to the studio. Oh, then I'm jumping on it. And then you can go over, they have a bike lane on the Williamsburg Bridge. You can go right over that way.

Okay, then maybe that's what I'll do. I can be somewhere. Yeah, go by that way, yeah. I just came from a closing from a mutual, who, you know, a very talented actor's apartment. I just sold what a journey today. Oh, is that that that good? That we won't say that closed. We won't say who it is, but he's very happy.

So he sold it. Sold it. Right. Done. Oh, that's good news. So is he leaving New York? No, he has another place. All right. Okay. Cause I sold it. Sold it. Right. Done. Oh, that's good news. So is he leaving New York? No, he has another place. All right, okay.

That I sold him. I... Which I'll be doing with you two going, are we done, are we ready to move? She's now... No, yeah, no, we're not. When we find out what the next door neighbor is going for like cellular work on her longevity,

then you're gonna have to move. Then we may have to move, yeah. I feel like the... When I moved back to New York, like two years ago, really, when you, you kind of plugged me back into this city, I, uh, I kind of regret ever leaving. I do. I feel like this is, this is the, this is the best city for me. I don't know why. I just feel like this one works for me more than any other place I've been.

New York City works for me. I mean, don't you think you get more material here than anywhere else? My God. I mean, I can't even imagine you guys in California. I didn't know you then, but it's like, it's so remote out there. Well, the kids were really young. So, you know, we were kind of like, you're in that world and you're kind of dealing with it's all like.

But that's one cycle. Well, we had two because Milo was young when Megan and I met. And then when he was about nine years old, he was just over nine years old. Liam was born, so you go right back into it again. Right, right. And so it kind of lasted quite a long time. My God, he's going to, he just loves New York, doesn't he? Liam.

Oh yeah. Yeah. He's crazy for it. It's perfect for you. I mean, it kind of, it's an interesting thing. Cause I was talking to Tomas about it today. We were walking over the street here, just in Brooklyn and Tina, the crossing guard, I've only been working here a couple of days.

Tina, the crossing guard stops the traffic. We're walking over the road. She starts talking about when did you get your first tattoo? I got my first, she's talking about her tattoos. Now we know that when we come back, we got to get her an iced coffee on the way back. And this city has, I think, and people go crazy, well, people who don't know, don't believe it.

This is the friendliest city I've ever been in in my life. This is the fabric of New York. Unbelievable. You will never see a more, and I love to know where I stand. And New Yorkers will always tell you, and I'm the same way. It's like, that's a lovely dress. What do you mean lovely? It's great.

It's the most, you know, they, it's not an insult. It's just them. Everyone stakes their claim here. It's just the most amazing city for that. It has a certain directness, which I really appreciate. It was once I was doing, I started doing a Bill Clinton impression. Oh really? Yeah.

I used to do it on late night. It was like, uh, that was pretty much all I did. Uh, but it was kind of a regular gig I used to do on late night. And I was walking down the street in New York and a guy shouted a really, literally from a construction site, a guy with a hard hat on went, Hey Ferguson, nice Clinton. Wasn't that worth it? Yeah, it kind of was actually.

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I love it. I needed this little thing. I'm doing these walkthroughs right now. I have another one today. It's the pre-closing. Didn't we do it in your apartment? Nah, I didn't see the apartment until after I bought it. Megan did it all with you. I have to say, I'm noticing that another thing is,

I will say that I'm coming up with a knack of picking an apartment online and saying, that's the one for you. Yeah, well, you nailed it for me. And well, you gave me like a five block radius. There was nowhere to go. I was very specific in where I wanted to be. Yeah, I mean, because look, location, location, location.

You scored on that. Yeah, it's great. I mean, we can, it's the overreach right now. But women, I mean, who knows? Cut this out if you don't want to do. But women are fantastic to shop with for real estate. Yeah, I can imagine that. They really just kind of get the whole thing.

Well, I think- Men like to come in and they're more about the numbers. Definitely, that's my thing. And they kick the tires as the approval thing. You know, it's like, okay, what do we got here? You know, what's the pros? And you're much more vocal about the pros and cons. Women, it's more of a nesting.

I can see my family in here. It's not so much the kitchen. It's just the whole vibe of the place. And then they throw on their decorator hat and it's like, Yeah. I'm, that's one of the things I'm very glad about Megan is she's amazing. She's the designer. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's pretty good. How did you end up going to real estate from sex? I've always loved real estate and we were living out in LA and we used to go to Santa Barbara. We used to go to Palm Springs and I would look at these homes and go,

holy shit, this must be fun. If I can't afford to live in it, I might as well sell it. Right. And so we were going to make our life out there, but then my partner did the option, the right to share his life story and did the share show on Broadway. So I knew I was coming back and I was already running the businesses in New York and they were running.

And so I came back and pivoted and just got my license. And then I was doing weddings and real estate, which was incredibly stressful. Yeah. I think feel like that's a lot of time. Cause people, you're dealing with people at two different points in the life where there's a lot of emotion involved. Right. I already know what my next position is.

Like, cause I am one of those people at any age have no problem reinventing myself. I'm literally like a person who, if I'm not happy doing it or if I'm saturated, the wedding business after 10 years, I was like, I'm done. And I was, had no problem. I don't look at it and go, God, I'm a certain age. I'll never get a job.

I don't do any of that. If it's meant to be, I just move forward with it. I think that's very healthy. I also think that's New York a little bit. And I think this is a city like LA and by extrapolation of that show business, I think, which everything is show business. Everything. Everything.

Getting old is somehow shameful. Like you must have surgeries and stuff. You must look young, feel young all the time. And I think in New York, that's less of an issue. It's like, have a nice coat. Right. So I think the next thing for me, well, I love real estate right now. I mean, look, it's great, but it is a relationship business. Like weddings were a relationship business. Oh, that's right. Yeah. You know, I mean, it really is, but it is a relationship business. Like weddings were a relationship business. Oh man. You know, I mean, it really is, but the net, there is a thing in the UK,

and I can't remember what it's called. I remember a Brit telling me this, which was that when somebody dies, there's a man that comes in and does the service, but he's called something, he's not the vicar of obviously, he's called the, it's gotta come to me. Anyway, that's what I would love to do in New York. What, death?

Yeah, work on that. I mean, I'm gonna skip the divorces because who wants to do that? That's just an attorney. There's no fun in that. But like the celebration of life thing. Oh yeah. What are they called? The person who comes in, there is a person.

Yeah, they have a lot now, these humanist services. Humanists, yes. And now even religious, like the Catholic Church, no one is doing the wakes. I mean, people that I know, who's just at two, they're just doing one day of celebration. It's changed now. I think a little bit that's true.

We had on the podcast William Villanova. Oh, what a name, I love it. He's a lovely man. He's the head of the, the, you know, the big funeral chapel on Madison. Oh my God. Yes. I go there all the time. Frank E. Campbell's. Oh my God. He is. Yeah. He's the guy in charge. Oh, that is a great guest to have. He was fabulous.

What I didn't know about, about funerals and, and like to be in his position, that's like a four-year college degree. I mean, he's like, I mean, I think he does everything though from, you know, soup to nuts, I guess. That is the place to be honored by that and Riverside Memorial or Riverside Church. So what would you do? I would would script something like I love having less is more. I loved writing a ceremony. I had a template and the bride and groom, I would go tell, give me something that you love about, you know, whatever. And I wouldn't tell her and I wouldn't share it with him.

And so it became like a moment. It wasn't necessarily a lot of times emotional, but at least they had, you could see, you could feel the moment in the room. That's what it's about. You know what I know is you go to, you could feel the moment in the room. That's what it's about. Do you know what I know? You've been to Italy recently. Of course. When you go to Italy, do you ever go around the graveyards? Yes.

Have you noticed this new trend where they have the video of the deceased? No. Yeah, no, it's weird. At the graveyard? On the tombstone? On the tombstone. You mean you push something and then- You can make a little video so that, you know-

That's genius. Hey, it's me a little video so that, you know- That's genius. Hey, it's me. I'm, well, you know, enjoy your life. I love that. Yeah, you put a little video on your tombstone. Oh my God, what a thing. Yeah, I'm not so sure.

I mean, cause look, imagine you're like your old, your grandpa and someone goes in and says, hey grandpa, it's time to make the video. You're like, no, I'm fine. No, it's time. You're not so fine. Yeah, my grandfather would have just given me instructions on life.

I told you not to take that job. What, I mean, I feel like, first of all, I don't know how long is that video gonna last? I mean, the stone's gonna be there for a while, but the video is gonna break down. I'm just thinking like somebody's just gonna take it. Well, who's gonna, kind of heartless monster's gonna take it. It's a piece of like an iPhone, isn't it?

I mean, what do you do? Well, I think there's a little kind of solar thing on the top for power supply. And then it kind of- I love that idea. I'm not so sure that I do. I think once you go, like when I go, I'm not going, I don't want-

Aren't you gonna be cremated? No, Viking funeral, I think. Oh my God. Actually, you know, in all seriousness, I don't want. I don't want. Aren't you going to be cremated? No, Viking funeral, I think. Oh my God. Actually, you know, in all seriousness, I think. Taking up space. That is such an ego thing. No, Viking funeral, you get burned.

Oh, you do? Yeah. It's boat, a boat out to sea and your children fire flaming arrows onto the boat. And then you burn as it, and off you go to Valhalla. The only trouble is, the only trouble is, I think if that ends, if I you go to Valhalla, the only trouble is, the only trouble is I think if that ends, if I end up in Valhalla,

I'm going to be the sassiest Valhalla there is. I'm no way qualified to sit around, you know. You're never going to die. Oh. You've been spared on so many levels. I, you have. You shoulda, coulda, woulda, on so many levels, not be in this room right now.

There's been a couple of times, but things were, back then things were a little more like, like in New York, when you were doing the tours, do you ever run into any danger? Cause late night in New York back then was kind of different. No, but I do see or hear about a lot of people that I was in business with are dying.

Like have died, you know, the sad things, you know? Yeah, like, it freaks me out. It does freak me out. So many people that are contemporaries and they like die and you're like, why can they die? You know what's really weird? You run into people that you knew from back in the day and they look really old.

And I'm like, am I delusional? That's a compliment for me. Am I delusional? That, you know, I'm like- Do I look, I know you go back and you go, do I look like that? Yeah, I know I do do that. Yeah, you know what you get for that? A three-way mirror.

I told my partner that. Three-way mirror, you got to see yourself from every angle. Because there are certain angles I see myself when I'm trying on a pair of pants and I go, sit in this room. And I realized it's no old guy in the room with me. It's me from the side. So as long as I'm looking directly in the mirror and I've got my eyes open, I probably look okay. Yeah.

You remember the old thing about when you see a hot girl, she was hotter walking away or coming towards you. It was never both. Right. You know, I mean, it's, you have to make sure it all ties in. Right. I don't know that I'm ready for a three-way mirror. Okay.

Well, come and look at mine. What happens if you stand there naked? Well, I mean, then you know what you gotta do. I got a call. I don't know. I'd like you've had no worked on you. Look great. You're rugged. You're ready. Well, God bless you. You know, no, not me. I've had worked. No, you haven't. Have you? Absolutely. Little tweaking here and there.

I'm into it. I wanna see a cosmetic dermatologist. Oh really? Yeah, I wanna have like all the same. You wanna do like CO2 laser thing? Yeah, what's that? Is that like the- They burn your face off and then come back

looking like an 11 year old. I don't think that's the best look for you, but it's kind of one of those moments you see them and go, a giant baby or something. Yeah, no, I'm doing, I'm into the stem cell thing. What's that? So they do a little, they remove your stem cells. Right. You have to go, it's kind of a liposuction thing, which is discussed.

I don't do well with needles, so I'd have to be out for everything, which I love. I don't mind being out. I love being out. Look, if it was proper, oh my God. Oh, we don't count back from a hundred. Yeah. And then they send your stem cells to Virginia, to a lab and they harvest them.

Okay. And then four to six months later, you get some of them back on a drip and they put them in and all, after you do it three times, all the aches and pains start to go away. That moment of getting out of bed in the morning is gone. You're now the 18 year old. So it's all cellular work and it's age reversal, but not so much the exterior, the interior, which is who do I, what do I care? I, as long as I'm feeling young inside. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm hearing I have two people that I've tapped into. One is a big, big person. And, uh, and it's really helped her knees and she's completely, uh, I know don't go there. Leave that alone. You know, I just, I kind of love it. Is it, is it very, is it very expensive? No. Is it very, is it very expensive? No! I just love the idea that I've reached a point like where I hear about stuff for knees

and I'm like, oh, but that's what happens. You just, you know, don't drink and don't die as they say. But isn't it true it happens overnight, especially with men and listen, statistically men do not last as long as women. Well, I've noticed that, yeah. I mean, that is scary. It is a little bit, but do you fear the great beyond?

No, what do you mean? Do I feel like I'm at the end of my life? No, I mean, what do you think happens after you die? I think it's all energy and you're reincarnated and it's just energy. Right, so you don't think it's like, you know, angry Santa on a cloud looking at what you did? No, I think you're, you know, I'm not even,

I don't even think you're trying to work out the stuff you couldn't work out in this life in the next life. I think you just immediately are reincarnated. It's a soul thing. But reincarnated as energy, not like, not like as a hamster or something. Maybe, who knows? God, I hope not.

I hope I'm a rescue hamster. Cause you know, the word rescue is just like living at the plaza. Well, I don't know how many rescue hamsters are living. But I don't know if hamsters actually qualify as a rescue animal. I'm sure that there are rescue hamsters, but I mean, it's usually like cats.

I've seen them on menus, let's put it that way. Oh no. Oh yeah. I mean, it's certain places people fry up anything. Oh no, I couldn't eat. I know that Megan, when she was in South America, she was offered guinea pig in, I think Peru. I couldn't eat a guinea pig. That's horrible.

Yeah, that'd be bad. My dad used to eat rabbit. My parents used to eat rabbit too. That's a delicacy. Yeah. It's so sad. French, they'll eat horse. The Italians will eat that horse. Oh yeah. All of that stuff.

I can't eat that. God, let's not talk about that. Okay. Well, I'm mostly veggie now anyway. You are? Yeah. I was vegan for a long time and then I kind of didn't. I don't think I could do that, but I'm almost veggie. Yeah. I'll be a pesca. Pescatarian. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. Do you eat the shellfish? I'm not as much. Well, my partner's goes into anaphylactic shock. So that limits that. Megan's the same. Oh, really? She's terribly allergic to shrimp and those kinds of things. So is my partner. So I mean, I'm down to an occasional lobster primavera thing, but I don't even love it that much.

No, I can't eat, see me, I don't eat it. I could eat it. I don't, I'm not allergic to it, but I think it's a bug. I think these things, like a crab, a lobster, it's just a large underwater bug. Well, they say they're bottom feeders. Yeah, they are bottom feeders. So I mean, what you're eating is just-

It's also a great stop on the sex tour. I think I'm doing- Can we go to Bottom Feet as Dino? I think we're gonna go back to those sex tours again. I wanna go on the UK evening news and go, let's not talk about weddings. Let's talk about how many of you people went on that Gino sex tour.

Yeah, the Gino sex tour. Oh my God. Yeah, Dino took me to Bottom Feet as- It was magical. It was magical. Dropping them off at four o'clock in the morning and then getting up and doing it all over again. It was a cycle.

They'd come in on a Thursday. We would do Friday tour, Saturday night, Saturday night sex clubs, Sunday hangover, shopping, and then they would leave Monday and I would drop them off and pick up the next group. I find that fascinating. It was the greatest gig and I loved it. I loved just, it was just freedom and it was being on,

it was reading the room and people were like, you know, the boring tours are when you have like IBM incentive tour and those guys didn't want, you know, I didn't do those. Those were horrible. Cause you're just basically. Did you learn a lot about New York city? I did learn a lot about New York city.

I know all the history, which is why we, why I love real estate so much, because I love those beautiful pre-war, the architecture, the history of New York, building buildings around people who didn't want to leave their little rent stabilized apartment. Like I know buildings on the East, there are books about this, which is fascinating for me.

They've offered the millions of dollars, we'll buy you an apartment, who will move you out, and they won't go, and they have to build an entire building around a little townhouse, because someone went on the fourth floor. It's like up. It's just unbelievable.

Yeah. That's crazy. Thank you for being on. Thank you for having me. Thank you for being here. You're the best. Do you know, or maybe if you're, if you were on the next tour from Britain.

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