Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - Jim Jefferies

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Meet Jim Jefferies, a wonderful comedian, actor, and writer. You may know him from FX sitcom Legit, the Comedy Central late-night show The Jim Jefferies Show, and The 1% Club. At the 20...19 Just for Laughs festival, he was honored as Stand-up Comedian of the Year. Be sure to check out his podcast At This Moment! EnJOY!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. What's up, guys? Welcome to the Agustapap podcast, the go-to spot for everything, Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican-Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views of Musica Mexicaa, whether you like to vibe to Pesso Pluma, Los Aligres del Barranco, Aral Camacho, or put Ivan Cornejo when you get it in fields, then this podcast is for you. Well, actually, Pesel was supposed to be on Chinito's album.
Starting point is 00:00:26 The song with Drake was supposed to be with Pesel. Listen to Agustopah on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebeney, and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford, host of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. I know how overwhelming it can feel if flying makes you anxious.
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Starting point is 00:02:04 This is me, Craig Ferguson. I'm inviting you to come and see my brand new comedy hour. Well, actually, it's about an hour and a half, and I don't have an opener because these guys cost money. But what I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while. Anyway, come and see me live on the Pants on Fire Tour in your region. Tickets are on sale now and we'll be adding more as the tour continues throughout. 2025 and beyond. For a full list of dates, go to the Craig Ferguson Show.com. See you on the road, my dears. My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast is Joy. I talk to interesting people
Starting point is 00:02:45 about what brings them happiness. My name is Craig Ferguson. Welcome to the Joy podcast coming to you here from inside my house. My guest is today is a joy for you. It's simply one of the best comedians around a hilarious gentleman and a deep thinker, the wonderful activity in Jim Jeffries, everybody. You in Scotland now? Is that what's happened? Is it the Scottish Wi-Fi?
Starting point is 00:03:13 It feels like it's the wrong time of day to be in Scotland. No, it's not. Look, it's hot and sweating. It's not Scotland. What happened was I went, I moved to Scotland for five years. Five or six years. And then I moved back to New York, and now I'm in New England. But I went there, because my youngest kid, I wanted them to go to school in Scotland for a little while.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, yeah. Just because it's cheaper than American universities? Exactly, yeah. It's much cheaper for the young. And also, there's, you know, not everybody in Scottish schools gets a trophy. So, you know, if he didn't, like, win something, it's not like, oh, here's a trophy for your feelings. He doesn't get that. And I kind of like that.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I wanted them to experience a little of that. Before he came back to America, no, he's going to American high school. You'll get all of that now. My eldest boy's 12, and I've already started to say that you want to go to university in Australia, mate, just because it's substantially cheaper, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, here, it's crazy. Let me ask you this, though.
Starting point is 00:04:19 There's something now, are you in Australia right now? I'm in Los Angeles right now. Just the map of Australia makes it look like I'm in Australia, because, you know, that's what I thought. I said, oh, you go, oh, you must be in Australia because of the Australian map.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I'm in the valley. I'm in L.A. All right. So, which is a bit like Australia, actually, if you don't mind me saying so. I tell you what I've just post-made is for my lunch today. There's a New Zealand cafe up the road, and I have ordered a box of meat pies.
Starting point is 00:04:47 So I am the most cliche to say. I haven't lived in Australia since I was 20 years old. I'm 48 years old now, and I'm ordering meat pies, whilst I'm living in America. I've really assimilated, haven't I? Stan? Do you know, I'm...
Starting point is 00:05:01 Russell Crowe eats those meat pies as well. He gets them from that same place. Yeah, yeah. I know Russell does that. Yeah, yeah. Russell is like, you want to come and watch the rugby? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Meat pies?
Starting point is 00:05:13 I went, I went, he had the all blacks were playing against the wallabies in a game, and I went down with Reese Darby, and he had a pie master there making us pies. And it's weird because I think, I think, Don't quote me on this. I think that Russell was supporting New Zealand because he was born in New Zealand. And that was, oh, that hurt the heart because that's the thing about Australia. We're always claiming people that we don't really own, you know, like Canada is bad for that, too.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yeah. Canada, there was, I remember watching the greatest, it used to be a TV show, the greatest ever American and the greatest Australian and they had the greatest Canadian. And it was won by Alexander Graham Bell, who was, you know, from Scotland. From Scotland. Well, it's Australia had, we claimed Mel Gibson for years, but Mel Gibson actually moved over to Australia when he was five because his father wanted to dodge the draft for his sons, not dodge the draft, get out of the country.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Get out of, yeah, during the Vietnam War. And so he moved his sons to Australia. And he was always Australian. He was in Mad Max. They dubbed his voice with an American accent on Mad Max. And then he goes on to say the horrible things that he said, head and he said the he said the it's always been American actor American actor American actor and then he said
Starting point is 00:06:31 the N word and it was Australian actor Mel Gibson do you know what happened is now in Scotland they had they put up a statue of William Wallace at Stirling Castle but it was at William Wallace it was 800 years ago nobody knows what he looked like so they put up a statue of Mel Gibson and Bradford and then he said all these things they were like oh some god's shaking now it's like I'll be I think he drew a moustache on it or something.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Do you know what I've noticed about Australia? I want to ask you this, because I heard it again today. When I went to Australia, it's a long time since I've been to Australia. I've never been in Australia sober, actually. Come to think of it, I've only recently been to Australia so much. I imagine it's very different. But I went to Australia a long time ago, and they were the first people and the only people I heard that used the free
Starting point is 00:07:25 no worries. He used to say, no worries, Mike, no workers. And everybody knows that they've co-opted it.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Everyone's stolen the no worries from Australia. Oh, I thought the people in the UK said no worries as well. I thought it was a UK Australian.
Starting point is 00:07:39 They stole it from Australia. Oh, it's good. Well, at least we were the convicts before. At least they're stealing something from us.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It's all right now. Well, I think what I'm is Rolf Harris brought it over in the 19th. In the 1960s, And I think that was So do all the American listeners
Starting point is 00:07:58 Who are listening to this podcast right now They won't know He was a beloved entertainer From Australia Who sang a few really good songs Jake the peg with a wooden leg Two little boys had two little toys Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:08:11 An extra leg and two little boys We should have seen what was coming You should have seen what was coming Yeah He used to get a wobble boards And pen You know how it was his big He was an amazing artist
Starting point is 00:08:23 He could paint like really quick with big brushes and go, do you see what it is yet? Can you see what it is? Was it a little, it's a little fella here coming in? Yeah, I remember all that, yeah. So the Brits took him on anyway. He was done for, he was Me Too several times over. I won't get into details because I don't know the exact details. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I don't know that he went to jail. I mean, he wasn't just like, you know. Isn't he still in jail? No, I think he's in eternal jail, no. I met a bloke who had no retirement plan, but he'd been buying a Rolf Harris painting every five years and putting it away because they kept going up in value. And he's like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:09:11 That's the worst thing they were out. That's terrible. It's like these Hitler paintings are going to be worth a fortune. Well, I'm saying that on the stage at the moment. It's like a lot of people want to go back in time and kill baby Hitler. not me. I want to go back and buy some of his artwork. Encourage him a bit. Yeah, there you go. That's a good idea. Put some love out in the world. Send him off into a different direction. Do you know what? I've become, and I don't know if you've reached, you're a lot younger than me, so I don't know if you've reached this stage yet where you watch a lot of Hitler documentaries. I watch a lot of, man, I'm covered in him. Actually, the other night, my youngest boy said, Dad, how did Hitler rise to power? And I was like, oh, finally my moment. when I had it's gone. It's like cracking my knuckles.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah. In my new special, I have no less than three or four Hitler jokes in the special. Nothing to do. Yeah, you're allowed to joke about him. Anyway. I think so. So I wanted to call the special Hitler. I got some pushback from Netflix.
Starting point is 00:10:13 It is not called Hitler. But I thought, how many people search that name all the time? I'm searching it all the time. All the time. Yeah, all the time. Anytime there's a new document. If they go World War II in color, oh, you've got me for a week, then that's all over. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Did you see that one where they did World War I? It was a Peter Jackson did it, and he did the restore. My God, that was crazy. That was the one with the head of the voices over the top going, and I knew I was out for an adventure. That one, yeah. Yeah. And all these all sort of saying, we had a lovely time, actually, apart from the war bit, but the walking up and down was lovely.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It was very strange. It was a very odd thing to watch. My great grandfather was killed in that war. I imagine you probably have relatives killed in that war. I don't know about World War I. I don't know if I can go. Look, my big claim to fame is that we have some family members that were in their first or second fleet of people.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Like that's Australian pride right there. I have convict stock, proper convict stock. I remember that when I was a first or second fleet of people. in Australia, that that was kind of like if you had been on the Mayflower in New England, if you had been in the convict stock. So you really are, you go back to the... We go back a couple of 240 years in Australia. But then for a while there, there was, there was, there was rumors of my family having Aboriginal heritage and I was very proud of that. And then I did one of those like 23 in me's. And it was just Irish and English. I didn't
Starting point is 00:11:47 even have Scottish in me. Thank God. But I was just Irish. Irish, just Irish and English, and like 1% Swedish or something like that. Yeah, just like somebody bought an album or something. That's exactly right. Like a Hansen album maybe or, you know, like, oh yeah, nice. I feel that I would never do the 23 in me. A lot of people say because now they've sold the information to the other people, but I look at it this way, right?
Starting point is 00:12:17 Like, like, I don't even know why. Like, so those prisoners are. in Louisiana, right? They ran off a loading bay and they ran out and there was 20 of them and they all scattered around and they caught them all really quickly through facial recognition. We're all being monitored all the time. You can't, there's not a crime you can really commit now. I look back at like Ted Bundy. Ted Bundy was driving around in the same Volkswagen Beetle every murder and going up to women with a brace in his arm going, hi, my name's Ted. And then in every documentary they go like this, oh, he was a genius. He could have been a great lawyer. He could have been.
Starting point is 00:12:51 He was a fucking moron. He was saying his own name. Everyone was like, we're looking for a guy called Ted and a Volkswagen Beat, but how did he elude the police for so long? Just move states. Yeah. Well, there was no contact. Now, though, you're right.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Everybody is filmed all the time. But I feel like the 23 in me, if, like we were talking about Hitler, if Hitler had the 23 in me's now, that'd be bad. That'd be bad because, I mean, look, it wasn't great the first time around. It was better. But, you know, if he has your genetic information on file, oh, man. Yeah, but the 23 of me can't pick up if you're gay. He was genociding them as well.
Starting point is 00:13:31 You know, there was a few things, a few loopholes within the structure. You wouldn't want to do Ancestry.com and go Ancestry.com, oh, I've got a relative here. We've got a relative in Hitler. Oh, yeah, that's true. I feel like it's nowadays, though, like when I was. drinking, because I was part of all my drinking story. When I was doing it now, you got sober fairly recently. Were cell phones around when you were drinking? Ah, yes, and that was part of the reason
Starting point is 00:13:59 that brought me to my giving up alcohol, right? Because when you, when, the, they reckon the next generation, the generation alpha, which is the one coming in after the, the one that were millennials, and then what was the next one, the Gen Z? Gen Z. And then the alpha, they reckon alpha is going to drink 80% less than Generation X. which is my generation, right? And they think it's because they say it's because they're more evolved people who it's not. It's that they have mobile phones and that nothing can stay secret.
Starting point is 00:14:31 They can't make mistakes because people are he's filming them. They're a generation of grasses, right, who are going to tell everybody off. Plus, they have dating apps, right? When you have a dating app, and you can chat to a person for a few weeks before your one-night stand of course you don't have to drink we had to go into a dimly lit room where our personality could not come into play because the music was too loud we just had to stare at women until eventually one of them stared back at us try doing that fucking sober impossible impossible no i'm really glad i missed all of that i mean i got i got so there was barely cell phones when i
Starting point is 00:15:10 go sober i mean it was still the brick the brick telephone when i got sober it was no cameras when you're a blackout drunk and you'd wake up in the morning and you'd wake up in the morning and And then you'd ring your friends going, oh, did I behave myself? And they'd go, oh, you said this to this person, you did this thing. And you're like, oh, God, like that. You could ring up and apologize to the people or whatever. Or everyone just moved on with their fucking day. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Yeah. But now there's no, at concerts, right? If you were at a concert, right, in the old days, we didn't hold mobile phones up in the air. Loidos. We had a naked flame. A naked flame. A naked flame. Next to women in the 80s, we had so much hairspray on.
Starting point is 00:15:53 They could, wearing polyester. They could have gone up like that, right? But we held this naked flame up there until our thumb got too burnt, and then we thought we'll hold off for a bit and put it back up for a ballot, right? Right. Now the kids are up at a concert and you're on the floor, and there was a woman who was with her boyfriend, she couldn't see the show. So for two tracks, she's going to go up on his shoulders, right?
Starting point is 00:16:15 Right. The people behind get upset. Oh, my God. can't see the show. What would she do to reward the people behind? She'd flash it to, yes. Top off, yeah. Everyone was happy. She wasn't, she wasn't, she, she wasn't condemned. She probably worked in some corporate job and moved on with her life. Do you remember, do you remember streakers? Oh yeah, yeah. Naked people running across sporting events. It was hilarious. I tried to tell my 12-year-old son what a streaker was and he couldn't wrap his brain around it. I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:16:48 You'd be at the cricket. I don't know if it ever happened at baseball, but at the cricket, it was rampant. If you have a five-day sport, someone's getting naked, right? There's a lot of day drinking with cricket. There's a lot of day drinking in the sun. The fine used to be in Australia, $200, right? So even in today's money, $600, say something like that.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And people around used to be like this. All right, I'll throw in 20, I'll throw in 20, I'll throw in 20, and then they all throw it into a hat, and then the bloke or the woman would run out, everyone would cheer. In Australia, in the 80s, they used to keep the camera on them. They didn't even take the camera off. They just went, we have a streaker, the players were all laughed, and we move on. Now if someone enters the pitch closed, we think it's a terrorist attack.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I miss streaking, bring streaking back. Streaking figure. Well, let me talk to you about your special, because that's, kind of interest. I haven't seen it yet. It's only been those two days as of this. Oh, no, no. I haven't brought out the, oh, when it comes out. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:17:54 the special's called two-limm policy. Yeah, two-lim policy, and it's out on Netflix, and the two-lim policy, the name comes from you were going to call a Hitler, though, right? I was going to call it Hitler because I have a few Hitler jokes in there, but we,
Starting point is 00:18:10 we, too hard to explain. I think Hitler is a bare name, but I don't work for Netflix. Ever again, I'm not in charge. I got a firm no on Hitler. So, so I wanted to go two-limp policy because I have a routine in there about after the end of my shows, I take, I have a meet and greet with some audience members who pay for the meat and greet. And then, and mind you, when I say sober, I still partake in weed. I don't drink or do any drugs or smoke or anything else, but I still take weed. As soon as I go to stage, I take an edible.
Starting point is 00:18:44 and then I have my meet-and-greet line of about 80 people. And if you want to talk to me for a bit longer, stay at the end of the line when the edible kicks in because you know you're boring. You know you're boring when someone's paid $80 to meet you and they end the conversation. Anyway, so what I do is on stage is I also offer up, I've worked with disabled people in a sitcom I was with
Starting point is 00:19:12 and I still am slightly involved with the disabled community and all that. And so at the end of the show, I say, if there's disabled people in the room, they can also join the meet and greet and have a photo and I'll have a chat with them as well, so they don't have to pay the 80 bucks or whatever. But I do have a, I do have a two-limb policy because I was opening it up to, I was opening it up to disabled people, and I was getting fucking dyslexics and just the people who are mildly autistic and it just wasn't cutting it for me. I couldn't take photos with everybody.
Starting point is 00:19:42 You know what I mean? Like a lazy eye's not going to cut it, you know what I mean? So I have a two-limb policy, and those limbs have to be missing, doing nothing or doing everything. And that's my thing. And you can mix and match. They can be a leg and an arm. Maybe you've had a stroke. If so, lucky you, you get to meet me.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You save $80 and you get to meet Jim Jeffrey. It's almost sometimes worth the idea. mild stroke. Yes. Now that accident you had doesn't seem so bad. Hello, this is Craig Ferguson. And I want to let you know I have a brand new stand-up comedy special out now on YouTube. It's called I'm So Happy.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And I would be so happy if you checked it out. To watch the special, just go to my YouTube channel at the Craig Ferguson show. And it's right there. Just click it and play it. It's free. I can't, look, I'm not going to come around your house and show you how to do it. If you can't do it, then you can't have it. But if you can figure it out, it's yours.
Starting point is 00:20:50 American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF, and they loved to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been
Starting point is 00:21:36 harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go-to spot for everything Musica Mexica Mexican-American. We're proud Mexican-Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on Musica Mexicaa. Whether you like Pesso Pluma, Los Aligres del Barranco, Ariel Camacho, or Ivan Cornejo when you gain your
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Starting point is 00:22:46 culture podcast network on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast hi everyone it's jenay aka cheekies from cheekies and chill podcast and i'm launching an all new mini podcast series called sincerely jane sure i'm a singer author businesswoman and podcaster but at the end of the day i am human and that's why i'm sharing my ups and downs with you guys hi guys I was sitting here recording episodes of Dear Cheekies and Cheekies and Chill and I just had to take a time out and purge my thoughts and feelings here on Sincerely Janay because I've been so emotional lately, you guys. Whether I'm in my feels, I've just had a breakthrough with my therapist,
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Starting point is 00:23:54 Opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors, and innovators, building the future, one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves.
Starting point is 00:24:28 If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, Listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let me ask you this, though, you're, like, you're still younger, you're still in your 40s, right? What are you 47, 48, 48? Yeah, you're still a kid. I'm 63 now. All I do is worry about what's going to kill me.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Right. What is it going to be? Like, every lump, every mole, every thing, everything. I was like, it's crazy. Right. I think Bill Burr's calling, my age, to your age, the drop dead age is what he's calling on his next special. Yeah, yeah, it's the red zone. Yeah, it just happens.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And when it happens, people are like, huh, you know, it's not like as big a tragedy anymore. They will say a little bit too young, but, you know, he ate shit and he had a good time. And, you know, with each passing year, the sympathy. gets less and less for your death. Less and less. Yeah, yeah. Billy Conley used to call it too old. He did a tour, I think, too old to die young.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And he's still, he's not doing stand-up anymore. He's like 80, 83 now. I think John Cleese's tour is called Not Dead Yet or something like that before I die tour. You know, I guess that's, I guess that's, look, getting old is a privilege, you know. I think what you really want in life is for no one to. to cry when you die, right? To get to like a hundred where people just go, ah, well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:12 What a, what a life. Yeah, what a time, yeah. No one cries at a 95-year-old's funeral. Yeah. I've got a friend who's, I want to say his name, because he goes online and watches his podcast, but he's 95 this year. 95.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You don't think he's going to guess who he is? You don't think he's going to figure it up. His name's Pat Drumgoor. He's an old, uh, theater director and movie producer and movie. He's a lovely man. And he's 95. And he said to me, he's very posh.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And he said, my brother. He said, my brother's very ill, Craig. I went, oh, that's terribly sad. What's wrong? He said, well, he's 90, mate. But he's not a good 90. It's a fucking good 90, Pat. But he's an interesting guy.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Because he, like, he never got sober. He drinks like a fish. He lives his life hard. He smokes cigars. He does his thing. He eats cheese. He's a little overweight. He just keeps fucking going.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Okay. The oldest human to ever live, live to 121 years old. Right. I just looked this up the other day. Strangely, live to 121 years old. French lady. Right. What do the French do more than anybody?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Cheese. Smoking. Smoked. Smoked until 121. Smoked. Well, you're not going to stop at 100. You're like 100 years old. It's the time you stop smoking. I think you get to a stage where your lungs are coated with a wall. They're actually more of the lung than the actual lung. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah, it's just a kind of... She had a flue to champagne on 121st birthday. Like, she was going for her. But there's like, I think there's five people who have lived over 112. I was like, all women, there's no men who have done. No, men wouldn't do that. It's too much time. Hey, what was your, I used to love your show.
Starting point is 00:28:15 The Imposter or not the Impostor, what was it bloody called? The one where you're in the room. Oh, the Hustler, the Hustler. I love the show, wasn't it? Yeah. The Hustler was something I watched all the time. I love the hustler. It was such a simple concept of figuring out who's lying, who's telling the truth,
Starting point is 00:28:31 and I'll tell us stuff. Yeah. Is that coming back? Nah. Yeah, that was a COVID tragedy, that one. I did two seasons of that. And then it disappeared somewhere in 2021. But it was a good show.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I like doing it. I would do it again. I'm about to do a new game show. You do the game shows, right? I do a couple of games shows. I do one in Australia, the 1% club. And I do one that's on Fox right now, which you can watch on Hulu, called The Snake.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And the snake is a similar thing to your show in that you have to figure out who's who's bullshitting and stuff. but it's a, it's a voting game, basically. Right. So the contests vie against each other. Well, what happens is, like, you've seen other game shows where you have a voting ceremony at the end
Starting point is 00:29:15 where you, majority rules, it'll be an anonymous vote. You write, put it in a bucket, then they pull out the names like Survivor or whatever. Survivor, that's what I was thinking, yeah. This one, you have, a person becomes the snake, then they choose the person to save, and then the next person chooses a person to save,
Starting point is 00:29:34 so it snakes down. So you only have to get one person to like you each week to stay in it, but then you can't repay the favour because you've got to save the next person, right? So one, right, until it gets down to the final two and then the snake decide who goes home and who stays. So if you make alliances and you stay in a pact and you go, we'll always save each other and then, but eventually you have to lose that pact and start knocking off friends because you can't have too big a group because you won't be able to stay. So most of the game is about the ceremony and the vote and that type of stuff. I tell you what, I love hosting game shows.
Starting point is 00:30:07 When I first, I love it. It's great, isn't it? Is there anything better than telling someone they've won $100,000? Right? It's fantastic. I love it. I've done tons of it now. You don't have to remember lines like when you do acting.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah. Right? Yeah. There's no having to get coaching from an acting coach or anything to make sure you. No one's worrying if you have chemistry. You're just there by yourself. I would do. Also, I feel like it's something you can do when you're 80, and no one questions it.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Yeah, that's right. You can go for it. I'm just about to start hosting Scrabble on TV. Ah, awesome. This is great for me. I play Scrabble on my phone all the time. I love Scrabble. Do you play Scrabble or Words with Friends?
Starting point is 00:30:53 Be honest with me. No, I don't play words with friends. I play Scrabble. Cheaple. Cheaple is a way to go, especially now that I'm hosting Scrabble. I have to say, no, I wouldn't. ever go on word of friend. I might have looked at it occasionally
Starting point is 00:31:07 when my drinking days, but now it's only Scrabble. But I will say that. You said you didn't drink when phones were existed. Now you're using a smartphone to play words with friends. We played Scrabble in Little Huts in Scotland. All right, who's going to X? Wait a minute. Pants is not a word.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But what I like about game shows is is that it's a world to itself. You know what I mean? Like all of the jokes, all of the riffing that you do, everything you do, it's all there. It's all happening at that point. So you don't have to make a joke about, I don't know, Katie Perry going to space or, you know, Donald Trump or anything. You don't have to do any of that. You just concentrate on what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah. So the 1% Club, which John McAil hosts the American version of here in Britain. God, I fucking know this guy really well. 1% Club in Britain. Lee Mac. Oh, he's a terrific comic. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so Leamack does the UK version, right?
Starting point is 00:32:11 Right. The whole time, you just make, all the questions are, what number comes next in this sequence? You know, it's all IQ questions. Right. I'm making jokes about sequences and number orders and all that type of stuff. It's like, come and get me.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Like, try and cancel me for a joke about a fucking, you know what? See, that's what I think about it, too, that you can exist in that world and you can kind of relax like it's the old days. Let me ask you this about the special. Because obviously, I mean, I do specials as well. I'll probably do another one at the end of the year. And when I'm out, when you're out doing material, right?
Starting point is 00:32:45 Like you're running up and you're getting it to, you know, it's the size that you want. Do you keep in your mind like, I can't, this is a good joke, but I probably shouldn't record it or do you just not give a fuck? Only to the extent that I've done some jokes that haven't aged well because they were time sensitive, although they probably killed for a couple of years, 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Now you're watching it and you go, and I'm even including like making a joke about Donald Trump, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, me too. I feel the same way. I don't want someone to watch it in 10 years and it's like me making Monica Lewinsky gags. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:18 Yeah, yeah. So I'm mindful of that. Sometimes I look back on things and I think, oh God, maybe I shouldn't have said that joke, maybe I shouldn't have said that joke because I'm just a different, I mean, not a different person. I mean, a different place in my life, you know, than I was then.
Starting point is 00:33:36 But for the most part, no. Unless it's time sensitive, no. The most part, I just have a go. There's been a few jokes that I've done over the years that have never made the edit. They've just, I've tried to slip them in a few times and they just haven't. Each year I go, maybe this time I'll just sneak it on through. Yeah. It's funny, what you should try, I haven't 10.
Starting point is 00:34:00 years of late night sitting out there because every time I watch a documentary about something and then there's a whole bunch of people from late night and you're always in there saying something like oh fuck I can't even remember saying it in saying that though because because that does happen I always say that happened with Leno as well like they always go and then he was he was rude to Pamela Anderson back in the day and she might have felt blah blah blah man did you ever come out good in that Britney Spears documentary yeah you must have watched you you must have watched that and felt good about yourself that day, you would have gone, oh, I was on the right side of history that afternoon. You know what was funny? Because at the time, I felt it was, I thought I was
Starting point is 00:34:41 going to get fucking fired. Right. Yeah, I was like, well, I lost my fucking temper. What happened was I went and it was a Monday morning. She'd gone crazy over the weekend and she clearly was, had a mental health issue or something. You didn't have to be a dog. Still, still does, I think. But, you know, that's, that's, I'm not a doctor. Yeah. Right. And I, but I'm not either. But I looked at what was the footage of her coming in. Like, this is someone who looks like a manic episode or some kind of weird shit going on. I'm not a doctor, but it didn't look healthy.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And I walked in, the writers were all there, and everyone was like, they're doing their jobs. They were all like firing jokes about, you know, what she's in the writer's room. And I was like, I'd fucking got mad because I had turned 15 years sober that weekend. So I chucked them all out, except the one writer who was sober the same time as me.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I meant, you and I are going to write this fucking monologue. We're going to do it, I'm fucked if I'm going to, you know, I'm going to pick on this girl when this has happened. She was like 26 at the time or something. She was quite young. Yeah. Yeah, she was young. She had a couple of kids and she was clearly going through something.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I also think that once again, I don't know, but I also think that when she shaved her head and she went through that manic episode, I think that there was a lot of, I think she shaved her head because she was probably getting drug tested. She was going through custody stuff and stuff like that. You know what I mean? Oh, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, like, you want to get a hair follicle off me?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Good fucking luck. So if that's the case, more power to her. You know, it's a funny thing, though, at that time in L.A., I think you must be, were you in L.A. at that time? I believe that was just before I got here. I've been it for 17 years, so would that be around 7. Yeah, it would just be coming out. I'd be around about that. Right on the cusp.
Starting point is 00:36:27 It's funny because there used to be packs of paparans. used to be everywhere. They used to follow people. I mean, no, there's no point because you get people with their phones. Because the public, the public are the paparazzi now. Yeah, you don't need to hire paparazzi. You know, everybody's a fucking paparazzi. It used to be people got papped going into the venue and then they were free in the room.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Now it's like, you're not free anywhere. And so it's like, I had a friend who came out to visit, a relative came out to visit. And they're like, where can we see some celebrities? And I'm like, in their homes? In their homes. That's where you can see because there's not like the old days where they'll be down at the Viper room
Starting point is 00:37:04 having a good time. Those days are over. Those days are over. And when was the last time you walked into a bar and saw an actual celebrity sitting there? No way with camera phones. It's over.
Starting point is 00:37:13 It's a long time. I even thought, once you get even a little bit famous, that it fucks with your hair made me paranoid as well. Not because people were always taken photographs of you. It's just that you think people are always taken forward. So, like, if you're sitting in a Starbucks and you're like,
Starting point is 00:37:31 I really won one of those cakes or something like that and you have a cake, then suddenly you're like, you know, former late night host eats cake sadly in coffee shop or something. Did you find when you became famous it was much harder to complain at customer service? Yeah, you can't do it. You can't complain anywhere because people will say, and this is a thing people say about famous. People that, like, they always say, like, if you run in,
Starting point is 00:37:58 I don't know, Ozzy Osbourne or, you know, or Trump, people will say, were they nice? What were they like? Were they nice? I met him for 30 seconds. I don't know if he's nice. He was nice to me. Yeah, yeah. And people seem obsessed with niceness.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Do you find, I find that when people meet you, well, when they meet me, not you, I don't know when people meet you. When people meet me, the look of disappointment when they look at you, and they go, ah, because you're always, the oldest you've ever been. Oh, that's good. So they've just watched a special of you from 10 years ago and you've aged so rapidly in their eyes. Yeah, I know. God.
Starting point is 00:38:47 American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Most founding fathers were gossipy A.F. And they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history. And I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up guys? Welcome to Augusto Papa, the go-to spot for everything Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican-Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on musica mexicana whether you like pezo pluma los aligres del barranco
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Starting point is 00:40:56 Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors, and innovators, building the future one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves.
Starting point is 00:41:26 If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, everyone, it's Janae, aka Cheeky's from Cheeky's and Chill Podcasts. And I'm launching an all new mini podcast series called Sincerely Janay. Sure, I'm a singer, author, businesswoman, and podcaster. but at the end of the day, I am human.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And that's why I'm sharing my ups and doubts with you guys. Hi, guys. I was sitting here recording episodes of Dear Cheekies and Cheekies and Chill, and I just had to take a time out and purge my thoughts and feelings here on Sincerely Jeannay, because I've been so emotional lately, you guys. Whether I'm in my feels, I've just had a breakthrough with my therapist, or I've just had a really deep conversation with my siblings, or I'm in glam getting ready for an award show.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I'm sharing my most intimate thoughts with you on the podcast. You guys know I always keep it real with you guys, but this time I'm taking it to the next level. Listen to Cheekies and Chill on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I remember Carrie Fisher was a friend of mine. Did you ever meet Karen? I've got Carrie Fisher's stories that I could tell you off air,
Starting point is 00:42:51 but the private, but Carrie Fisher was in my seat. come legit. She was in an episode where she was sexually harassing me. I could have metued the character where she kept on asking me to lick her pussy and she was just the best. She was amazing, amazing woman. This story I can tell you, right? So one time I'm on Kimmel and I tell a story and the footage obviously is somewhere. And I tell a story about how my mother got deep vein thrombosis on a luxury cruise. Now, most people get deep vein thrombosis sitting in economy.
Starting point is 00:43:28 My mother moves so little on a luxury cruise that she got put into the infirmary because she had deep vein thrombosis in her legs and couldn't enjoy the rest of the cruise, right? And I tell the story, my father went off and won sexiest man on the boat on a pool party on the side of the thing and won a t-shirt and came back and visited her in his t-shirt. It's sexiest man. Anyway, so I tell this story. I'm doing, I'm doing legit, it's day one with Kerry. We had two days with her.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And she's sitting next to me in hair and makeup. My mother rings. And then she rings again. She rings again. I'm like, all right, something's happened. You know, I got to pick it up. So I pick up the phone. And my mother goes, you have to go back on the Jimmy Kimmel show and tell the American
Starting point is 00:44:11 public that you're a liar. And I said, why? What have I done? And she goes, I didn't get deep vein thrombosis on the, I got it at home. It was diagnosed on the boat, right? And I went, all right, so let me be clear here, mum. Let me be clear.
Starting point is 00:44:26 You want me to tell people you got the disease, like the condition from not moving in your home, then you got diagnosed the boat. That's your factual truth, right? And she's like, she's like, yes. And I get off the phone and I went, fuck. And Kerry turns to me and goes, your mother and my mother sound like exactly the same person.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And I said, let me stop you there, Kerry. Your mother was Debbie Reynolds from singing in the rain. In the rain, yeah. My mother's a morbidly obese woman who laid in a lazy boy for too long until she got deep brain thrombosis in the outer suburbs of Sydney. These are vastly different people. It's funny, though. Carrie said that thing, though, about when she had,
Starting point is 00:45:12 when she got her photograph taken in the metal bikini when she was, like, getting captured by Jabba the Hut. She said that thing, which I always thought was great. She said, I didn't know when I got, when I did that job, that I was making a contract with the universe to look like this for the rest of my life. That, you know, people would come up to her 40 years later and say, oh, my God, you'll let yourself go and stuff. Like, it's 40 years later, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:36 It's like, or 30 years later. That was one of the things. I was with Kerry. And she goes, I can't eat too much. I've got to lose weight. And then I go, why? And she goes, ah, next week I have to play a fucking princess.
Starting point is 00:45:52 It was the last job she did before Star Wars. And she was like, oh, God, I've got to be Princess Leyer again. I always that bikini is like every nerds fantasy, isn't it? The Princess Leia bikini. But it makes you think, like, okay, not Kerry, of course. What did Princess Leia have to do to Jabba the Hut? Like, what was this slave? Because obviously that character was a sex slave to the slug.
Starting point is 00:46:15 there's a whole other mini-series in what happened in those three days, right? I feel it's very similar to what the story. Put it on Cinemax. When I was telling you earlier on in the podcast about what I did when I was a young man when I was drinking, I feel it was a very similar situation probably.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And Princess Leia never like slug cock ever again. Or even anything that tasted like slug-cock. Let me ask you, have you still doing shoes with Jimmy Carr? Me and Jimmy, I'm actually, I'm flying out to, the answer is we have none planned. Hopefully we'll do some more in the future. We just did some, we did a whole tour of Canada together where the two of us were, you know, head-co-lining. Right. Co-headlining.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Co-headlining. I got, I understood. Yeah, it's fun. Anyway, so, so, but I. I am going out to in early August to see Oasis in the UK because I thought for some reason they wouldn't tour America at the time when the tickets went on sale, so I had to go see him. And so I'm going out and I'm actually me and Jimmy Carr are going to go see Oasis together. And it's funny because I go to Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I go, because I already had tickets and he goes, oh, I'd like to go as well. And I went, I went, oh, well, we'll see if you can get your ticket. Let's see if we can get you a ticket. And then because I'm so excited. And then Jimmy goes, he goes, I think. I think I'll just ask Noel. And I'm like, Oh, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I forgot that Jimmy was fucking friends with everyone. So hopefully I get to go to the after party with Jimmy and meet Noel. That would be really cool. I've met him. I've met Noel before an interview. I'm a big, big fan of a basis. But Jimmy and me, we did the tour. I was going, we were swapping the headlining spots, right?
Starting point is 00:48:09 We were doing it in the round. So it's like one would walk on, one would walk off. And it's like being a boxer when you're going out of the round, because you have to walk through the crowd and everyone's high-fiving you and you're getting all the spotlight follows you as you walk through, you know. And I was, going on after Jimmy Carr is,
Starting point is 00:48:27 I didn't find it difficult as such, but I did find that it was hard for me to offend an audience because he's saying far more offensive things than I'm saying, but he's doing it. He's legitimately just jokes. When you watch me, even though for the most part, I'm joking that you do watch me with an element. He could have done that.
Starting point is 00:48:48 If I say, that's a story. Yeah, that's based on real life. Yeah, yeah, I get it. So, so, so I preferred to go on before Jimmy, you know. And then I, as I said, I'd take it out of all and I'd sit there and I'd watch Jimmy car tell he's one lineers. It was one of the most wonderful tours of me life. We had a great time.
Starting point is 00:49:08 He's a great, we got on one, I've told this story on a podcast before. I realized how professionally he was at one stage. We bought our own plane tickets, but the two of people bought our plane tickets, but we weren't always seated next to each other. We were with each other all day, you know, just wherever you get a business class, you just watch your iPad or whatever. So he's sitting in the front row in the second seat.
Starting point is 00:49:29 So he's in A2, and I'm in B1. So I can see through the crack of my seat. Jimmy's on his computer, and this is like six months ago. And on the top of his computer, it says, Jokes for 2026. Jesus. Right? And I'm sitting there and I'm sitting there like I haven't got a new tour after I recorded my
Starting point is 00:49:49 special ready at this stage, right? And I'm seeing, I look down on my iPad and I'm watching an episode of MASH. I'm you. That's what I'm doing. I'm watching a Hitler documentary. Like how time sensitive is it that I have to watch this MASH episode right away? I know. And I thought he's a much more professional man than me.
Starting point is 00:50:10 but he's always in the suit he always wears in the suit he's the most immaculately dressed up all tailored to him the suit he's on the plane he's in the three-piece suit we're in canada where all of his tv shows airs he's hugely famous everyone is walking on oh jim jim jim jimmy jimmy jim like tell you hello he's so nice to all of them and then the person who sits in a1 next to him is a blind woman right she she goes past him she's completely blind she's got a guide dog she's you know with the glasses like like a cartoonishly blind this woman right and she comes in she sits down next to him and jimmy just waits for a second this is all here he turns through and goes what breed of dog is that and she goes um it's a uh it's a german shepherd and he goes is that
Starting point is 00:50:56 what they told you laughing she died laughing and she didn't know who the fuck jimmy car was she just knew he was a really, really funny man, you know? He doesn't really, I only met him once. I'm a big fan of what he does. I think he's, he really fucking carved his space. And I love what, I love that his fearless one-liner shit. It's unbelievable. I only met him once.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I think it was just for laughs in Montreal. I was up doing something and he was there. And we had gone to see David Tell. Because David, for me, Dave Attell is kind of like, if you know, you know. Yeah, he's like the Velva Underground or something. You know what I mean? If you know, you know. He's the comedians.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Comics, he's, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I was watching The Tale and, and Jimmy was there. And I talked to him for about, I don't know, 20 minutes or something. I thought, Jesus, you know who you reminds me of? Did you ever meet Don Rickles? I was on a radio show with Dom Rick. I was on the Opian Anthony show from Montreal.
Starting point is 00:51:59 They were filming it, and it was me, Jim Norton, I think, like Louis C.K. There was like five or six comics. and Dom Rickles came on and he sat down and I think it's the most quiet of I've been on a podcast or a radio show in my entire life because I thought to myself I'm not going to speak up like I'm not going to fucking cut over the top of this guy because I have a singer
Starting point is 00:52:21 you know what I mean like like it was it was a for a comedian it was a meeting Elvis moment where I was like and he came in and he just razzed everybody and it was just like he goes hey I don't do it tonight shows. Oh, I don't mind doing Lano. I occasionally done Latterman, but I don't do Fallon because I don't play
Starting point is 00:52:43 ping pong, right? It was just one of those things. I don't play ping pong because Fallon started bringing in all those games. Personally, I think it's quite fun, right? Right? But everything was like, it was quite cutting what he was saying, but it was also so disarming, no offense taken whatsoever. He said something to me about being Australian. I can't even remember what he said. I remember just being like floating around the area just like going, wow. Dom Rickles is right there.
Starting point is 00:53:08 So to answer your question quickly, yes, I have. Yeah. Well, see, that's the thing that Jimmy Carr reminded me at Don. Because I became friendly with Don Rickles because he was on the show. Like we'd go out for dinner with him. The first time, he came to a party at my house in Los Angeles. And he was like, it was in the hill. So there was like steps and stuff to get into the house.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And he gets and he was all kind of out of breath. And he was with Barbara, his wife. And he came over. And he had a dollar bill rolled up. And he tucked it in my top pocket of my shirt. He went, here's a buck. Buy your wife a fucking house. I'm like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:53:44 He said, you can't live here. You can't live here. You can't live in all these steps. And he came in, and the place was teaming with comics and celebrities and all that kind of stuff. And every gathered around him like it was. It was like, you know, like he was the guru figure. He sat, he couldn't go downstairs or upstairs, so he sat in the front hall. And everybody just went there and gathered around him.
Starting point is 00:54:04 It was awesome. He's awesome guy. But Jimmy reminds me of him in the sense that I feel like, look, I only spoke to Jimmy for 20 minutes, but he has this super kind of, it's not aggressive what he does, but it has a real courage about it and real kind of, you know, it's a real kind of virulent stand up. And then as a man, he just appeared to me as being this lovely, gentle creature the way Dawn was. he is as not jimmy car's as nice a human being as you'll ever meet um and i'm not just saying me but for me he's a person that i call if um i am i need help or just like just just just advice from person there's very few people as grown men you call up and have advice with you know what mean and i call jimmy car when i need advice whether it be in my personal life or my work life and I'm very proud to say he's a good friend.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Yeah, he's, uh, he's, he's been a, he's been a great guy. I mean, I thought we actually worked together really well. Like those shows, people, we were selling 10,000 people to come and see the two of us, where the two of us, I would go and see that tour. I would definitely go and see you. Individually, individually we were both selling about three to four thousand and then together 10, you know what I mean? And it's like, but you know what it was?
Starting point is 00:55:28 It was, we were both edgy comics in the same vein that we're going to say off-color things. that our stand-up was so completely different that you had a good ying and yang to the show, but you were still getting the same vibe. Yeah, I think that it is a good matchup. I remember seeing that you guys were out and thinking, I would actually, I don't go and see comics, but I would go and see that.
Starting point is 00:55:49 You know what? Because it was Canada, it was always a hockey arena, like the Rogers Arena. Yeah, yeah. I have so many hockey jerseys in my wardrobe right now that's, and they're always very sweet when you get them. I'm always like, this is awesome. but you can't wear them because you look like,
Starting point is 00:56:05 who puts your name on the back? A five-year-old does that. Like, Jimmy, hey, on the bank. And it's like you're a simpleton. And I don't watch ice hockey either, but I can't throw them out because they're major league hockey jerseys, you know what I mean? So I've just got them all piled up ready to go.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I've also got, from back in the day, this is a bit of Scottish for you. When I was doing the Edinburgh Festival, the manager of hearts was Jim Jeffries. Oh right and I was at the Edinburgh Festival and I'd go on stage and there was a chant that they used to do to Jim Jeffries the football manager that was cheer up Jim Jeffries oh what can it mean you're a great big fat cunt with a shit house football team yeah that sounds authentic yeah and I was like people were chanting that to me at gigs I was like what the fuck has
Starting point is 00:57:01 happened. I just got to Scotland and everyone's calling me a fat cunt to the monkeys. Did you ever meet him? Yeah, Jim Jeffries came to the show with a few members of hearts. Then they took me out to the stadium and they go, please welcome you're a coach. Well, they didn't know American voice, but please welcome your coach, Jim Jeffries. And I walked down the pitch with a jersey and it was meant to be a laugh, but it was just lost 90% of the people didn't know who I was. And then he came. But there was a photo of him giving me the jersey and yeah he was a good dude man he was all right i don't know where he manages now but back then he managed that's well what you have to do is get all these jerseys with your names on them and you
Starting point is 00:57:40 you should open a sports bar yeah and then put them all up in your sports bar and then have a no camera policy and celebrities will come in look it's just an idea i think i should frame them put around my house and then start telling my kids that they have to tell their kids and let the myth grow that i was good at every sport that's a great idea I'm going to do that because I've got a lot of jerseys as well. You know that I've, the only football games I've ever been to, but this is a real Hollywood thing. The only football games I've ever been to are Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I haven't been in a football game that isn't a fucking Super Bowl. Oh, you never, you've never seen, like, soccer, football, as we call it. You've never gone to, you've got to see a lot of soccer, but I mean American football. I've never seen, I've been to one American football game when I was in Kansas and they took me along. Okay, which leads me to my next project. I am in a movie called him, a Jordan Peel movie, directed by the great Justin Tipping, who check out this guy, he's going to be a great director.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Marlon Wayans, Tyreek Withers, I have a small part, and I haven't seen the movie yet, but it's like, you know, all those Jordan Peel get-out movies? Yeah, that's a great movie. It's one of those films, right? And it's all about American football and the concussions and stuff. I can't say much, much more about it yet, but... Is it a horror movie?
Starting point is 00:58:56 I hate the term it's a thriller horror movie you know like like it's a scary movie yeah get out and us it's in the same vein as the other movie you know
Starting point is 00:59:08 but um but we were out in Albuquerque film and that I was doing okay so I was I don't know if they'll show the footage of this ever but they were doing the they were doing and because it's about American football I'm like and I'm not anti-American sports
Starting point is 00:59:23 I love baseball absolutely love baseball and my son has gotten into basketball so i'm i follow the basketball as well now right but i could go to i could watch baseball all day anyway so i i um they're doing the interview for the behind the scenes on the movie and the first thing was like so uh so what's your best memory of american of the of the NFL like this right and i went you don't really watch it right i think it was the right and they're like no no no no and then they said this to me in the interview and they go, uh, they go, so
Starting point is 00:59:59 what drew you to play this character? And I went, well, I didn't audition and I got the, like I don't have, I'm not sitting around with scripts all around me, me going, no, no, like I'm a stand-up comedian who got an acting job, right? Yeah, no. Like, like, I'm not
Starting point is 01:00:15 Brad Pitt. I don't get to choose my roles. People do talk out all the time though. They do, I know, whenever I watch him, they go, I always wanted to play a character that was a villain with a bit of depth and a this, that, the other, when they say things like that, and you go, I haven't seen you in many movies at all, cunt, you just fucking, you just took the role you could get made. When you see the British actors, there's always posh British actors, and they're talking about
Starting point is 01:00:38 I always wanted to play it sort of a character of that. And I, I always think, whenever I played a character in a movie, the reason they did it was because they offered it to me. They offered it to me. That was it. I said, I would have done this movie if it was bad. It just so happens that it's a really good movie and I'm lucky enough to be in it. People always ask me in interviews like, do you think you'll do more sitcoms? Because, you know, my sitcom was reviewed really well,
Starting point is 01:01:03 but I haven't really done one since, you know. And I go, that's like asking if I'll have sex with good looking women. It's not my decision. Yeah. It's up to them, you know. If one offers, of course, I'm a married man. I'm just talking hypothetically. I understand.
Starting point is 01:01:19 But you get what I'm saying? It's like, It's like, it's not my decision. I would, I would very, so I'm putting it out in the universe. I would very much like to be in more movies and more sitcoms. I'm waiting by my phone. In fact, it's in my pocket right now, ready to go. American history is full of wise people.
Starting point is 01:01:43 What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were, gossipy AF, and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar.
Starting point is 01:02:14 And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go-to spot for everything Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican-Americans who live and breathe this music.
Starting point is 01:02:47 We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on Musica Mexicana. Whether you like Pesso Pluma, Los Aligres del Barranco, Ariel Camacho, or Ivan Cornejo, when you gain your feels, then this podcast is for you. We deep dive into music reviews. Pesso Pluma show last year, everything was a 10 out of 10. Fashion and lifestyle inspired by the roots of musica Mexicaa, the craziest controversies and chismes. I don't have nothing against Fuerza, you know, and I don't think J.P. should be mad at me. Song and artist comparisons, competition in the scene. There is competition.
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Starting point is 01:03:41 We all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month, and Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting black founders, investors, and innovators, building the future one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level to make someone else feel comfortable just because
Starting point is 01:04:10 they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat. So be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 01:04:33 you get your podcast. Hi, everyone. It's Janae, a.k.a. Cheekies from Cheekies and Chill podcast. And I'm launching an all new mini podcast series called Sincerely Janay. Sure, I'm a singer, author, businesswoman, and podcaster. But at the end of the day, I am human. And that's why I'm sharing my
Starting point is 01:04:50 ups and doubts with you guys. Hi guys. I was sitting here recording episodes of Dear Cheekies and Cheekies and Chill and I just had to take a time out and purge my thoughts and feelings here on Sincerely Jeannay because I've been so emotional lately, you guys. Whether I'm in my feels, I've just had a breakthrough with my therapist, or I've just had a really deep conversation with my siblings, or I'm in glam getting ready for an award show. I'm sharing my most intimate thoughts with you on the podcast. You guys know, I always keep it real with you guys, but this time I'm taking it to the next level.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Listen to Cheekies and Chill on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When I was younger, it was a young stand-up. I don't know if the young stand-ups are like this now. I don't think they are quite so much. But when I was younger, you had to talk yourself up all the time. Like, you know, I, or I fail. like I had to. I was always saying how fucking great I was or how big the crowd was or how much
Starting point is 01:05:51 I'd killed and all that. And I don't feel, I don't care about any of that anymore. And I, I think the younger stand-ups are probably okay about more. They throw crowd work up on social media and stuff. I think they're bragging is, is more subtle, but more in the mass, right? So, really? Well, they're, they're putting up clips of themselves all the time, all the time, all the time. We used to hold onto material. I don't want to get rid of something. I don't want to get rid of something. And then I'd release a special and then you'd starve the audience until you could feed them again, right? And if you want to see me, you have to do that, right? And then that's what the case. So you were saying about the how big the crowd. There's a joke that applies to
Starting point is 01:06:33 stand-up comedy. There was a comedian and he, you know, he was doing a right in the business. He'd made a bit of money, but he, you know, he thought maybe if he just had the right push in his career. Everything would be all right. So he booked out the O2, right? And he puts billboards up all around London. He puts billboards up everywhere and he thinks people just need to know who I am. Once they see me, they'll know I'm one of the greats, right? And 12 people show up in this big arena. And the guy obviously has a terrible gig and he dies. And then he gives up comedy. And then a couple of years later, one of his comedian mates see him and said, what happened? He goes, I did that gig at the arena and only 20 people showed up right like we always live that's the truth of it
Starting point is 01:07:25 yeah even even even in failure he couldn't say 12 he said 12 I remember once doing a gig I remember it was in Columbus Ohio and I was like the the late night show was pump at the time I was doing great numbers and big theaters and all that and then suddenly I go to Columbus Ohio and the theater it was like there was like in a it was like a 2000 C or 1200 C or something there was like maybe 250 people in it I was like what the fuck happened and the promoter said there's a football game tonight we didn't think that the the local team were going to make the playoffs but they did make the playoffs and I was like fuck but I don't think about anybody else being in town when I'm in town or
Starting point is 01:08:11 of the, or a sports game or something being on. You can't prejudge it. That happens every now and again. You're going to a theater and only two, three, four hundred people who shop and you're like, what the fuck? I had one recently where I shut up at casino and they said, oh, you've sold 400 tickets.
Starting point is 01:08:26 And I'm like, oh, Christ. And it was a 4,000 cedar. And I'm like, that's going to look horrendous. Right. And then I walked out. The place was packed. Right? And I thought I only sold 400.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And they go, oh, we gave everybody. who had won, like, had spent $200 gambling a ticket, right? They just wanted 4,000 people in their casino. Sure. Right, right? So I'm like, I'm like, yeah, just do that every time. And don't even tell me the numbers. Don't tell me.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I just want to walk out there and see it and feel good about myself. It's funny that, though, there. I, nowadays, like, I used to get a real charge out of doing stand-up. And now, I still get a charge out of it, but it's weird, no. It's turned in some odd thing. I kind of relax when I'm doing it now. It feels it feels almost like an indulgence to go out and do stand-up. Like, I mean, I'm really relaxed and I enjoy it and I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:09:22 It's kind of great. I definitely appreciate it now a lot more. I don't know if I'm as relaxed. I think I mean a bit of that too, yeah. In fact, I think that I have to get to your stage or I'm actually relaxed because I'm still worried about it going away because I've been doing theaters now for 16 years. right theaters and then you know 12 years before that comedy clubs right and you know if you tell me when I first started doing theaters I'd still be in theaters at this stage that that
Starting point is 01:09:52 you know and the numbers aren't as high as my peak or whatever like that but I do look at the I do look at the audience and people come up and meet me afterwards and they're like this is the fifth time we've seen you and I can't take that for granted no I know I do I have the exact same thing people who people who come up and say I grew up watching you on TV. I get that now as well. And they're like old. So my audience used to be all very young, right? And now, um, about a few years younger than me, my audience used to be. Now they're all sort of bit younger than me, my age or a bit older, right? Right. Um, uh, I, I, I never had old people in my audience, but now I got kids coming. Even though offensive. I get that too cause
Starting point is 01:10:33 of TikTok and bleeps and all that and stuff. Blokes my age who have teenage, 15, year old sons bringing their kids 15 year old sons are like oh bloody show you a comedian come on to this bloke he says come a lot he's a bit edgy don't tell your mother we'll just come the two of us you know what I mean and so it's like they're being kids and I'm when
Starting point is 01:10:54 they come when Oasis get to America even though I'm seeing them in England with Jimmy I'm taking my 12 year old son to see Oasis right and he's listened to the albums he watched the supersonic documentary and they broke up 18 years ago like my son
Starting point is 01:11:10 doesn't even remember them ever being together. And I'm watching these two men, these two men who are in their early 50s, I believe, 52, 50, something like that, early 50s who, it's like when my wife watches the real housewives of whatever or Vanderpump rules or any of these reality shows
Starting point is 01:11:30 where people all go talk and they're all not getting along and they're arguing with each other. I believe the Gallagher brothers, for men my age, has been a bit of gossip that we could all watch as men. you know what I mean we're like why can't they get along and then and then like I hear they're talking to each other again oh I hear they went to rehearsal and we had the same thing with Axel Rose and Slash
Starting point is 01:11:51 right yeah yeah just these we want these men to get along and then part of the experience now is they're walking out hand in hand and grown men are crying because oh I bet they're mums happy yeah I don't know I don't know if you if you turn into that type of performer, if your mom is happy. My wife has this theory that all stand-up comedians have the same mom, which is, I'm going to run it by you right now. Okay, because I have a very exact mom, so I'll, okay, let's see how we go. Cold with bad boundaries.
Starting point is 01:12:33 When you say bad boundaries, what do we mean by bad boundaries? I'm maybe calling you up and telling you you had to go on Camel again. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. My mother was, my mother has shaped my entire life. My entire life, everything goes back to my mother and what my mother. I'm writing my biography at the moment, and every now and again, if I'm having a bad day, I'm really going her. And then I go back and then scribble out some stuff like, no one needs to know that bit of information. That's private or whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:02 But she was, she was super mentally. abusive, physically abusive. I used to get beaten, you know, and she was, but there was something to her. I believe I, and my wife doesn't quite understand this. I
Starting point is 01:13:22 credit a lot of my success to this overbearing, domineering woman who used to tell me that I'd be nothing. And because me and my two brothers, all three of us are successful. We all came from, from, from working class family.
Starting point is 01:13:37 So I think, I think, okay, so you've got in entertainment and sports, you've got these, you've got like King Richard, so Serena Williams and Venus Williams father, right? And then you've got Tiger Woods Dad and then you've got Joe Jackson, right? I believe those three guys are very similar blokes, but it's all in the telling of the story. So you can say that Joe Jackson was an abusive man who beat his children, right? Michael Jackson's father, abusive man who beat his children. And no one says, and got results. Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Sure, there seems to be side effects later on in life that are really unpleasant. We don't want to go too far into this, right? But you don't get the Jackson 5 through positive reinforcement. No. No. Do you know Keith Robbins, the stand-up? No. Keith is the guy who he did a stand-up special called Different Strokes because he had a stroke.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Oh. And then he was amazing style. He was a great stand-up before, but he's like, he's had a stroke and he did it. I mean, he's amazing. His mother, he tells the story, his mother shot someone in a card game and they had to go on the run for a while. I was like, you beat everybody. That beats everybody's mom, I think.
Starting point is 01:15:07 No one can beat that. My mother had Munchausen. Say, how about that for a doozy? Oh, okay. Yeah, that's it. That's why. We were always sick. And I can't speak on what my brothers had to go through,
Starting point is 01:15:17 but we all had a different medical condition that happened to us. That was, you know. Munchausen by proxy. Yeah. Well, you know what happened? My mother had polio, right? She did have polio. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:15:29 So she had polio as a 13-year-old girl. was in bed for a year and a half, almost died, and that's when everyone visited her. That's when people came to check on her. So she didn't just have much houses for herself. My mother also spent about two months, or about a month and a half,
Starting point is 01:15:47 every year in hospital. She would talk to doctors until she got put in with her condition. She'd be in traction for her back or there'd be some other reason. And, you know, people with fucking real diseases are only in there for a few days. My mother would be in hospital
Starting point is 01:16:02 for a month and then two weeks later on in the year type of thing, right? I always loved it when she was in hospital because everyone was nice to me. Everyone was like, oh, your poor boy, your mother's in hospital. I'm just sitting around eating buckets of crisps watching the TV, you know, dad's off at work. That was, heaven, mum, in hospital. That was as good as it got. My mother was in the hospital a lot when I was a kid as well.
Starting point is 01:16:21 It's funny that. Yeah. I think she was genuinely ill. I don't know. She was pretty sick. So I think that's, she thought, We all visited my mum every day when she was in hospital. We had to go there for an hour and visit her.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Yeah, yeah. And so I think that's when people showed her love or attention or something like that. And so when she wasn't sick, we were sick. Yeah. And, you know, it became a very weird. And then growing up, the face, the hay sort of goes down and you go, what the fuck was all that? That was all.
Starting point is 01:16:57 my mother also she always used to be like she wanted a daughter right never had a daughter right i was the youngest of three right and when i was born i was the last roll of the dice right and i came out and there was the penis not happy she didn't hold me didn't hold me right didn't hold me for a couple of days and then didn't change the diaper the nappy for a couple of months i believe right because she didn't want to see the penis right up to the day she died she never liked me penis right now now now now I remember I remember it I remember sitting there on the thing and because you wanted a daughter and she went to me she goes I'm all right with that I said oh I'm not game mom I'm not going she goes but if you if you were you would she would have loved
Starting point is 01:17:44 you as a son anyway she goes but if she goes she goes but if you are that's fine I go but mom didn't you didn't you didn't you didn't you just throw out all those playboys under my bed didn't you you find those and throw them all that? And she goes, I thought you put them there to put me off the scent. Now, let's go back to your mum. Why was your mum sick with? I feel terrible now.
Starting point is 01:18:11 You said my mum was really sick and I just glossed over it. I think she was. She got sick all the time. When she was about the age I am now, a bit younger actually, she was in hospital. She had non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. She had some weird cancer thing.
Starting point is 01:18:28 She had arthritis and all that stuff. And she was on a breathing machine on a ventilator. And they said, the doctor went in and, I come out, you come in to see my mom and she was unconscious and stuff. And she was on a breathing tube. And the doctor said, it's time for you to say goodbye to your mom. She's, you know, around between half an hour and an hour. And we're going to take her off all the life support things and just stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And I was like, okay. So when then we all sat there, and we all say goodbye to her, and they took her off all the life support, and she lived 15 more fucking years after that. She got better. It was crazy. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:19:07 I have a similar story. I'm not trying to top your story. I can't top that story. Of course, I can't top it. I'm going to tell you, this is so creepily, okay, I'm at the Edinburgh Festival. I'm halfway through my run. I'm having a career moment.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Everything's going good. I get a phone call from my dad, oh, your mother's sick, right? Another one from my brother, oh, yeah, your mum's sick. And then I, the doctor says, yeah, she's not going to last long, mate. You've got to get back, right? So I get on a plane from Scotland. I have to go, Scotland, London, London, Hong Kong, Hong Kong, Sydney, right? Right?
Starting point is 01:19:48 Yeah. And so I, I, you can't, back, there's no Wi-Fi on the plane. and I can't turn on a phone, I can't find her, she might be dead, I'm sitting on the plane crying, will I make it, won't I make it? I get to the hospital, she's sitting bolt upright in bed playing solitaire on an iPad. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:04 And I'm like, what the fuck? And she's like, and then the doctor's like, oh yeah, spirit's picked up when she heard you were coming. And I'm like, okay, but she wasn't like just a little bit not sick. She was fine, right? Yeah, bad. And I'm like, okay, fine. So then my, when my mother was dying, when my mother was dying she died because her leg broke and then they put antibiotics that got
Starting point is 01:20:29 infected then they put antibiotics and then her kidneys packed in and then she asked not to be resuscitated it's meant to be quite a peaceful way to die the kidneys then this and then that organ stops and that organ stops and your heart stops in the end um and uh they said oh she has kidney failure she could live with dialysis but she's already old and she doesn't want to do that right so they're just going to let the kidneys go and then she's going to die right and the doctor it was the same. They went, she won't last, she'll last about 24 hours. Like this, right? And me and my three brothers were in the room, we went, film.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Fool me once. And when they tell me she's dying and I rang up my brothers and went, are you sure? It's a long flight. Are you sure? Because I'll come back, but you've got to be positive about this. Anyway, so then, so then they go, they go, no, she will die. And we're like, well, we'll, when I see it, when I see it. Yeah, I'll believe we were to see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Anyway, anyway, when she, we're all around the bed, she took her last breath. And then, boom, she died. And then we all cried and we all hugged each other. And about 10 seconds later, she went, and then died again. Yeah. I'm like, and we all sort of stood. over the body. We all stopped crying and went, get a doctor, make sure, make sure. Jesus. All right, mate. We're done.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Listen, it's been great talking to you. I feel like I really want to come and see you do some work. When are you doing some dates? So where are you in the world? You're in the East Coast. I mean, yeah, New England. I don't have anything booked in the near future, but I'll let you know because I'm just about to do Europe and the UK. Yeah, I was going to do that and I moved it to next year. Yeah, I'm starting at the end of August, and I'm going all the way through to the beginning of December. So it's going to be a grind of a tour.
Starting point is 01:22:34 But I'm doing, I don't know if you know, Andrew Maxwell opening for me, the Irish comic who's... I don't know him, but... No, you're very funny, man. But, yeah, we're doing like... I'm doing like Zagreb and... and fucking, like, just places I haven't been before, like, um,
Starting point is 01:22:50 Istanbul and all this type of shit. So really, really interesting. Istanbul's amazing. It's amazing place. I've heard, I've heard some good things. Me and Jimmy,
Starting point is 01:22:59 even though we're not performing together, we're doing a festival in Saudi Arabia. Okay. That's interesting. I was Jimmy going to, I mean, you both going to work out. I don't they have heavy censorship and stuff?
Starting point is 01:23:11 Okay. Here's the other, here's the other comedians. Bill Burt. Okay. Uh, Kevin Hart. and Louis C.K. Well, they couldn't fucking get anybody.
Starting point is 01:23:20 That's ridiculous. No, but my point is, it's like, pick your cancel. Yeah, okay. We're done. Ah, come on. Oh, come on. Why is this taking so long?
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