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Welcome to the Kids Super Studios here in Brooklyn, New York.
My name is Craig Ferguson and I'm your host today on the Joy Podcast.
My guest today is, she's got some great stories about her mentor, Joan Rivers.
I saw her on Saturday night at the Village Underground in New York and she is as raw
and as fantastic a comedian as she ever was. Please welcome Lynn Copritz and Joe.
So when did you come to New York then?
Because I always thought you were in New York
until Saturday night when I saw you Saturday night
and you were saying, I have to go see my mom in Florida.
I was like, I thought you lived in New York.
I was born in New York in Long Island
and we left when I was like seven or eight.
And I always came back, my dad, my birth dad lived here.
Right.
But yeah, I grew up in Sarasota.
We moved to Sarasota when I was about 10.
See, now I have to know about,
because you're the type of standup,
when I saw you do standup on Saturday night, right?
And I'm like, Jesus. And I saw you and you were brilliant. You were brilliant.
And here's the thing as well, though. I was at, we were at the village
underground, which I'd never been to before. Do you love it? Oh my God.
That place is great. It's great. It's unbelievable.
And people have been telling me, go to the comedy cellar, go to the comedy,
go to the village underground, which is kind of like, it's the same complex,
right? It's the same family. Right. And, and I, I was like, the village underground, which is kind of like it's the same complex. Right. The same family. Right. And I I was like, yeah, yeah, I've heard about it.
And it is amazing. It's an amazing place.
How long have you been doing it?
I mean, as long as it's been up, it's been like, I mean,
I've been hearing about it since I feel like the 90s or something.
Well, I've been there.
I've been at the cellar probably about 25 years.
So when they really started making it, And then there, I've been at the cellar probably about 25 years.
So when they really started making it,
I want to say it was about 30 years ago when they started really,
where they were having big audiences.
And then it just grew.
So you're part of the Comedy Cellar.
And then there's like four rooms, five rooms.
So it's all, I always say it's like, am I performing in the bedroom, the living room,
like or the garage or you know, like they all have different.
Well the room I was in felt like it was
a reasonable size room.
It was like, it's a pretty big room.
But the cellar itself is smaller?
Much smaller.
But it's like the more prestigious.
Oh, those bastards, they told me
that Village Underground was prestigious.
It's very intimate.
I always say the people who come to see comedy at the cellar are your die-hard, they're the
same people.
Essie makes fun of me, but I'm like, they're the same people who go on safaris.
They want to be this close to wild animals.
Oh, right.
Because comics were certainly a lot.
We're not always the nicest. And people think, oh, I want to be right up front.
And I always say, you really don't, not with all of us.
Like these are the best comics in the world.
And they're surly.
I mean, they could just look at you
and think you look mad or something.
And then they'll like attack you.
But that, I think that's, when I was listening to your act
and watching your act on Saturday, and I was like, this is not an act though.
This is like, it is an act because it's stage work and you're doing it,
but you're not pretending.
Do you know what I mean?
It's not, you know, at least I didn't feel like it.
Like when you were talking about, you know, your boyfriend and sex and stuff,
I was like, oh my God.
And he does have Bell's palsy. And he does have Bell's palsy.
He really does have Bell's palsy?
Uh-huh, it's almost better.
Yeah?
Yeah, he's fine.
I like that you dismiss it because he's not here to,
but did you think he had a stroke?
Because that Bell's palsy is the thing where you get-
It looks like a stroke,
but we knew right away it was Bell's palsy.
How do you know right away?
He went to the doctor.
All right, he didn't like-
Like to the emergency room.
Do you smell toast and taste pennies and stuff
if you get Bell's palsy?
I always say that when I, I always say that I,
sometimes I just like if the lights blink, I always say, I smell toast.
Is my grandma coming? Am I having a stroke? I see grandma.
But no, he didn't.
The reason I'm mean about it is because he said I gave it to him.
And then all his friends thought I gave him Bell's palsy
by stressing him out.
Really?
I don't feel like that's how it works, is it?
It doesn't.
No, I'm not a doctor.
You absolutely can't do it.
How did you get Bell's palsy then?
It's like a viral thing.
Oh, right.
Oh, maybe you had it in your breath.
Did you have it in your breath?
Oh my God, you're such an idiot.
I don't know, is it like COVID or something?
Can you, which may or may not exist?
No, I looked it up. You cannot
give it to anyone with words or breath or anything.
Right, okay. How do you, it's a viral thing that you get from what?
Like a toilet seat or something?
It's like shingles and things like that.
Shingles? I've had shingles. Have you had shingles?
No.
It's the worst.
They're the worst.
It's like, it feels like shingles. It sounds like it should be nice.
Isn't it?
Like on a roof.
Shingles.
And you've got shingles.
It's delightful.
It sounds like, you're right.
It's like tingles.
Tingle, tingles, but it's not tingles.
It's shingles.
It's hideous.
I think hair pieces got the same problem.
Hair piece and it's a similar thing.
I think they can all kind of go in the same categories.
But hair piece sounds like it would be nice.
Like a hair piece. Like a hairpiece.
Yeah, like a hairpiece.
Did your boyfriend have a hairpiece?
No.
Okay.
But he got this.
So anyway, what'd you ask me?
Is my act?
Well, I felt like when I was watching you
that it was all real life.
It was very raw.
I mean, obviously it was-
You too, right?
Yeah, no, I do. But that's the kind of stuff I respond to.
Me too.
I like, I do comedy in the way that I think
it's gonna make me laugh.
Like, or the style that would make me laugh,
which is raw and truthful, you know.
But sometimes I watch, I mean, I was watching,
I was like, oh my God, I don't know if I could,
I don't know if I could go that far.
Like when you were talking about. And you wanna know there's other things I wanna talk about. Yeah. I mean, I was watching, I was like, oh my God, I don't know if I could go that far.
Like when you were talking about-
And you wanna know there's other things
I wanna talk about that I haven't approached yet.
So it always tickles me when someone's like,
well, you're really going the edge.
I'm like, oh no, I have other things I wanna talk about
that I haven't touched yet.
And I'm just waiting to get ready for them.
And you know, what were you gonna say?
I'm sorry.
You said-
No, no, no.
I was just saying, it's interesting
because you know, you were talking about the-
Telling men to kill themselves?
Well, there was that.
Yeah, I did notice.
That's like, I don't know how,
I mean, you know, in context and it's fine, you know?
And it's one of the great things.
It's one of the things I admire
about Anthony Jeselnik as well.
He says things like, this is a terrible thing to say,
but because he does it so skillfully,
and you do the same stuff,
and it's like you do it so skillfully,
that it's not a terrible, you change it in some way.
I'm in the center of it.
Right.
So I tend to talk about things that make me a victim
and then I'm the victor.
Right, so you give yourself adversity
and then triumph over it.
So it's a feel good type thing.
Yeah, like it's, so this middle-aged man dates me
and I tell him, listen, if we're gonna be intimate,
what I didn't, what I say on stage sometimes,
like when I do an hour,
is that I was celibate up until,
I had been celibate for four years.
Until we started dating.
I had wanted to start over.
Yeah, me and God, and I was like, I'm gonna start fresh.
And I had known Steve a little.
How long until you become a virgin again?
It's like 18 months?
That's right.
And no, I mean, I even went on a few dates
and I was very clear.
Like I'm not gonna, I'm sorry,
it used to be a bit of a whore dog, but not now.
I just-
That must be very nice to hear
when you're on a date with somebody.
That's right.
I used to be a whore, but not for you.
It's over and it's over now.
You're like, I was really promiscuous, thanks,
but not for you.
Oh, I would have done anything.
I would have done anything.
Now, no, missionary.
Right.
But I, I had been real clear with him.
So to me, what that joke is about,
it's about a middle-aged woman kind of getting duped.
Like all of a sudden this middle-aged guy is,
has been saying, yeah, I want us to be together.
We live together a little bit.
Is now saying, you know what?
I changed my mind.
Oh, he doesn't wanna do that anymore.
But no, in real life, I mean, you guys are still together.
No, no, we're not, we're not.
In real life, we're really not together anymore.
Oh, great, thanks.
But we aren't, but we are.
I'm tethered to him, so I'm going there.
We have stuff together.
We bought a house and stuff together. We bought house and stuff together.
We didn't buy a house together,
but we had rented a place and all my stuff is in the house
and his stuff is, it's all mingled.
And so I'm staying there this summer.
He's not gonna be there.
He'll be in New Hampshire most of the time.
He's picking me up at the airport tomorrow.
Like we're still in each other's lives.
What does he do?
What's his background?
We're retired from Verizon.
Verizon?
He weren't the cable guy.
He was like a cable guy.
He ran it.
I love that.
I love the idea that you're a Billy,
like Jack Verizon or whoever it is.
Is that who it is?
Yeah.
I don't know if that's-
Which is also why when we get in big fights,
I'm like, go back to your small potato life, loser.
But he's mean too.
Like, so we're...
Has he ever dated a comedian before?
No.
He hasn't dated someone that lives in a city
other than Boston.
And Boston's a real city, but I'm talking about...
You said Boston, like, is not a city.
I'm like, it's kind of a city.
No, it is, but I'm talking not a like it's not a city. I'm like, it's kind of a city. I'm talking not a not a city woman.
Right. Because the women of Boston are what?
No, he's not dated women from Boston.
Right. He's dated women who lived in South Boston, Craig.
I'm trying not to say it.
Southie assholes.
So I'm trying not to say it.
I'm like, I don't want to be mean about him. Look, I'm sorry for pressing you about it.
What I mean is this, is like,
I am fascinated by comedians that seem to work out
their own personal issues on stage,
because that is how I do it.
But what I've noticed is,
cause when I was doing that,
I used to do that late night too.
I was just like, whatever was fucking happening. I loved watching your monologues and stuff because you just talked about it.
Right. But the problem with that is that, that people know it, you, you, you forget and then people come over and they'll say things like, I said something on late night years ago and they'll, I don't remember saying it.
Like I- Oh no, I have that too. Yeah.
People will tell me tags that aren't like I don't ever remember saying them.
Yeah.
Like they say a punchline to a joke that you've never told that I never told.
I don't remember telling or they just add something to it.
That is not like they changed it.
But I think people hear what they want to hear.
Like, and they changed it in their mind.
Like I do this too.
Like when, you know, when Leonard Nimoy died,
I was like, I was talking to my wife.
What?
Yeah, we died and I was like, oh man,
the original Mr. Spock, he was so awesome.
I wish I'd had him on late night.
And we looked up and he'd been on twice.
No recollection. Well, when I saw you the other night, I'm like,
so one of the people who work at the cellar goes, Fred Ferguson. And I go, okay, good for him.
And she goes, no, isn't he your friend? And I go, Fred Ferguson? I don't even know who the hell that is. She goes, you don't know Fred Ferguson. I thought he was your friend. and I go, Fred Ferguson? Fred Ferguson. I don't even know who the hell that is. Do you know?
She goes, you don't know Fred Ferguson.
I thought he was your friend.
And I go, no, if I knew, if this person was my friend,
I-
He's making a connection.
Well, you opened for him.
I go, Fred Ferguson's a comic?
And she goes, yeah.
Now I go, what do you mean I opened for him?
She goes, you opened for him?
I thought you guys, I worked at comics when he was there
and it looked like you guys really liked each other.
I go, I don't know who this is.
So she goes, turn around, he's right here.
And turn around, I go, it's Craig Ferguson.
And she goes, oh, what's the difference?
And I go, a whole person.
That is, to me, there's a difference.
I feel like Fred, Craig, you know,
I once had went to a birthday party.
It was a surprise birthday party.
Somebody threw, it was actually Carrie Fisher,
threw me a birthday party in Los Angeles.
And it was all like celebrities were there and all that.
And they got a cake and the cake turned up and it said,
happy birthday, Crane Kilbourne.
Crane Kilbourne, didn't even get one of my names right.
And it was the guy who I took over from.
Happy birthday, Crane Kilbourne.
I'm like, for fuck's sake, Carrie.
She went, well, I didn't look at the cake.
I just ordered the cake.
I just said, get Crank a cake.
I was going to say, I thought if she, you know, she was funny.
Oh, Carrie was the good.
You were me, Carrie.
No, but she missed the joke.
She should have said, calm down,
Crane.
Calm down, Crane.
She, she called me Crane for a long
time after that.
You guys would have loved each
other. You would have loved each
other. She was very.
Many people told me and I think
people told her because I had
so many people tell me, I can't
believe you haven't met Carrie
Fisher.
I can't believe it myself.
I mean, it seems odd to me
because you would have been,
either you would have been great friends
or deadliest enemies.
No, we would have loved each other.
Yeah, I think you would have.
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You know, Joan Rivers was like my mentor.
She was like my aunt.
I was going to ask you about that because Joan, there's a whole thing with Joan.
I never met Joan Rivers.
And she's like my favorite comedian.
I honestly think maybe my favorite stand up comedian
of anyone I've ever seen.
For me, she's up there with Richard Pryor and you know,
I mean, she's just insane.
How did you guys meet up?
She's a groundbreaker.
I was doing a TV show called Z Rock about a band
and they wanted, it was on the IFC channel
and they wanted Joan on it.
And I had done the pilot and she watched the pilot and said,
I'll do it if I can. I got to work with that woman.
So they said, OK.
And they made her my aunt, which turned out to be a nightmare for them
because she was playing my aunt, but she was playing Joan Rivers,
who just happened to be my aunt.
And it was a loosely scripted show.
So we improv a lot.
And when I met her, I walked into her,
I was very thin then, and I walked in and she said,
oh, I've never seen the camera take weight off of somebody.
And the whole room went quiet, and I looked at her,
and I went, and started laughing, and she goes,
come here, you thick skinned comic.
And she gave me a hug.
And she said, I always do that to see who I'm dealing with.
She was, she told the greatest joke I've ever heard.
Which one?
Well, one of the greatest jokes I've ever heard.
There's a couple, but this, when she was talking,
when she was on Fashion Place,
and remember Ryan Lochte, the swimmer?
Yeah. And he got Lochte, the swimmer? Yeah.
And he got into like terrible trouble.
He was getting into terrible trouble all over the place.
And she said, she said,
Ryan Lochte is like my vagina.
When it's dry, the magic is gone.
And I went, oh my God.
What is this?
Well, you know, at her funeral,
Howard Stern told her,
I think one of her best vagina jokes ever.
Was that?
He said Joan Rivers had a very dry vagina.
This was the first words out of his mouth at her funeral.
And it had a very dry vagina.
He goes, I know this because she told me all the time.
And he said, and she told me once, Howard, my vagina is so dry that
if Whitney Houston had it, she'd be alive today.
But my favorite old joke.
That's terrible, like to say.
But my favorite old joke of hers, it was corny.
It's corny.
People always look at me like I'm corny.
But I just love the joke.
She goes, I'm so old.
When I was a child, the Dead Sea was sick.
That's a great joke.
It's a brilliant, she wrote it and it's a brilliant,
brilliant joke.
But she was, what's interesting to me,
this is the thing I picked up on when I was,
cause I've, see, I remember your act being,
the material wasn't the same,
but your style was similar 20 years ago.
I mean, you were still raw, you were still,
you know, working like that.
And when I was watching a lot of the other comics.
I was much more TV friendly. I was much more like, I want everyone working like that. And when I was watching a lot of the other comics. I was much more TV friendly.
I was much more like, I want everyone to like me.
Now I'm like.
I think that's when you're young.
You kind of get like that.
Now I'd rather the comics laugh.
Well, I think if you're making the comics laugh,
you're kind of doing something right.
I mean, you're hitting a definite demographic
and it's probably a very dark one
because I think comedians.
Don't you think you hit a point, like,
excuse me for interrupting.
No, no. As an like, excuse me for interrupting,
as an artist, I'm definitely the now I've evolved where I'm that art.
Like when you knew me, I was the artist that was still willing to paint murals in people's houses. Yeah. And now I'm like, what?
They want me to paint the couch green so it matches their couch in the picture.
Tell me, go fuck. Yeah, I'm never doing that.
So now that's if someone goes, can you not do that joke?
I'm like, no, I can just leave.
Yeah, I have to do the joke.
I don't know.
I mean, I feel like it gets to a point
where you just kind of like,
I can't fucking make everyone happy.
I can't, you know, I mean, my job is to make people laugh,
but not necessarily make them happy, you know?
And- That's a good point.
Yeah, I don't, like, I don't find this joke offensive.
Well, okay, that's good.
Or I do find this joke offensive.
Well, that's good, but there's a lot of talk recently
about you can't say this and you can't say that,
or you get into trouble.
And I was like, it's always been like that.
But my point is is Joan had a rule
and I think about it all the time.
She said, talk about whatever you want.
Just make sure it's funny.
Yeah.
I think that that's, the thing is-
Undeniably funny.
Undeniably funny is right because there is that,
but there's now the situation that,
well, I don't know if it,
there was a little moment there
where certain things you weren't allowed to even,
I felt like you weren't even meant to talk about.
Well, you were talking about throwing your kid in the pool.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
And I was screaming, laughing.
It's so funny.
And it's how, when we were kids,
that's how you learned to swim.
How you learned to swim.
You're lucky if you got thrown in.
Usually you just got kissed, someone drinking a beer
shoved you with their foot.
A lot of kids didn't make it. But you know. We you got thrown in. Usually you just got kissed. Someone drinking a beer shoved you with their foot. A lot of kids didn't make it.
But you know.
We got a floater.
Yeah.
But.
But.
You know, even when you said it the other night, I could, I could see people going,
Oh, why did you?
But they're just sensitive now.
I think so.
But I think they go looking for it.
But you fixed it.
You made it funny immediately.
Right.
And I think the thing is, as well, is that I think people go but I think they go looking for it too. But you fixed it, you made it funny immediately. Right, and I think the thing as well is that
I think people go, particularly in places like the cellar,
Village Underground, all that stuff,
I think people go there with the expectation
that I am gonna be tested by, you know,
I am gonna hear stuff that I don't wanna hear.
And that's part of the fun.
I think it's been folded into it that now you,
like you, I think that's okay.
I think to feel that sense of danger.
Like you mentioned Attelle. Attelle's always been one of my favorite comics.
Mine too.
Because I watch Dave Attell sometimes and I think I don't know Dave I can't go. God
damn it he made me laugh again. I mean he's.
And Dave Attell you know it's funny because I'm not usually a fan of comics that I don't know something about at the end of their act.
I can appreciate that Jerry Seinfeld is a master
at what he does.
An observational comedy, he's one of the very best.
But I don't enjoy watching him.
His comedy, his TV shows, the stuff I love.
He's a great writer, but it's just not my cup of tea.
Right.
Ellen is the same way.
Ellen DeGeneres.
But that Boston style of comedy
where they're like, and then I killed the guy.
Like, I never find that funny.
You didn't do it.
You didn't kill the guy.
You know, and-
That's the difference between Boston and New York
comedy then.
In New York, you have to actually have killed the guy.
If you say I killed the guy.
You have to kill the guy.
No, he did actually do that.
You really think Glenn might have killed that guy.
Yeah.
Like, there's some opinion, you know, you think when you're watching me,
she might have actually told this guy to kill himself.
Oh, yeah, I thought you might have.
I would be very sad if he killed himself.
Yeah, of course you would.
But that's where I push it.
You know, it's, you know how it is, you do it too.
It's where fantasy. Right, you mess around with it. You mess around with it with the I push it. You know, it's, you know how it is. You do it too. It's where fantasy.
Right, you mess around with it.
You mess around with it with the reality of it.
That's all right.
I mean, it's called a poetic license, I suppose.
And for me, it's always believable.
My situation, like I have a joke
where I'm talking about young feminists.
And I wanted to see, I did it
because they traditionally have been annoying me a lot.
So I thought, I wonder if I can talk about them and still win them.
Because young women love me.
And I think it's because I tell the truth.
Well, I saw you were doing crowd work with a couple of girls in the front row, the young women in the front row.
No matter what I say, Craig, they never hate me.
They were great. They loved you.
We love you. We love you.
And I'm like, shut up. I don't want your love.
We love you so much. They're like little puppies.
But I think it's because there's an
anti-quality to me.
Like, she's telling us the truth.
She's on our side.
She's going to protect us.
And so my whole joke is about
do you want me to tell you?
It's just about the feminism thing where I go, there is a young, And so my whole joke is about, do you want me to tell you? Yeah, sure.
It's just about the feminism thing where I go, there is a young,
if you haven't met young New York feminists yet, they're very,
they're not like the old school feminists, they're very like,
right in your face and growly.
And I said, someone jumps in front of me with a clipboard recently,
and she's like, what have you done for women today?
And I go, well, I'm not gonna punch you in the throat.
So that's one thing.
And then I did this whole thing
about getting behind this young girl
because I know my days of free drinks
and having doors held open are very long gone.
But I'm like, this young fertile girl
is going in the bank where the doors are heavy
and my arms are not what they were. And I'm like, I young, fertile girl is going in the bank where the doors are heavy, my arms are not what they were.
And I'm like, I'm gonna get behind her,
like a little car getting behind a big semi in a storm.
This bitch is gonna save my life.
So I get behind her and she stops.
This is true story.
This is based on a true story.
She stops cold and she says to the guy holding the door,
I can get holding the door,
I can get my own door, thank you very much.
And I'd never seen it.
Have you seen it in real life?
It's happened to me.
Really?
It's happened to me.
I'll tell you about it in a minute.
So I go, well, I can't, excuse me, pardon me.
I kind of walk past.
So then I go, I'm telling this joke, true story again,
at the cellar, at the little room,
and a girl in the front row goes, yes.
And I go, you know what, what are you yesing?
And she goes, she told him, she told him,
we can get our own doors and we can buy our own food
and we don't need men trying to take our power.
And I turned to her and now I say to the audience, let me tell you something, no one can take
your fucking power.
You got to give it to them.
That usually gets an applause break.
And I go, you girls are not looking at this the right way.
The way I see it is they owe me that.
They owe me holding the door, buying me dinner.
I go, you know why?
Because we've been blowing these guys for centuries.
I am kneeling on the shoulders of my ancestors.
And I go, somewhere in my line, someone in my family
probably sucked the dick of some guy coming back
from World War I with ticker tape on it.
I go, then I'm sure I have some pilgrim ancestor.
That was like when I'm done churning this butter,
Ezekiel gets home, I got to breathe out of my nose
for four minutes.
And I'm like, I'm sure I've got some cave woman relative
that was just, and he pokes her on the shoulder
and she's like, oh.
So you owe me reparations. And I talk about my boyfriend and all that,
but it kills with the girls and it starts me
not being nice to them, but like you said, then I empower them.
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It's very interesting to watch you work because it is, I mean, it's funny that you mentioned, Joan, because I got that kind of like style vibe from you as well. Like the, the idea was like,
I will, I will go at people, you know, I will make fun of somebody,
I will have a go at someone,
but it's always really me who I'm going at,
which is very smart and how it works, I think.
As far as the holding the door open thing,
that happened to me in LA.
It was a gate at the school.
One of my kids was young and I held the gate open
for one of the moms in the school.
And she was pretty angry.
I mean, she was in a tough day.
I mean, everybody's tired.
They have little kids, but she walked by me and she went, I don't need you to hold the
door open for me.
And kind of like, I was like, I didn't hold it open for you.
I held it open for my mom.
You were just there.
You should have just said, that's how you get hit.
Just so you know.
I probably, I probably.
Hey lady, that's how you get five across a thing.
But here's the thing.
It's funny though, because the idea and you've touched on this and I'm interested in this.
And you mentioned Ellen as well, because Ellen get into a lot of trouble because it turns out she's not as nice in real life as she is on TV.
I don't know her.
I've met her a couple of times, she seemed very nice to me.
I don't know.
I mean, I was meeting her in a TV studio.
I've certainly known Ellen's stories,
but what I was kind of fascinated by is that people,
and people will say this about anyone.
Like if you meet anyone famous, anyone at all,
they say, were they nice?
Like, I don't need, I don't need like,
I don't need Jimmy Page to be nice. I don't need, I don't need like, I don't need Jimmy Page to be nice.
I don't need, I don't need, he plays the guitar.
Let him play the guitar.
If he's not nice, I don't fucking care.
You have to be super talented to not be nice.
To not be nice?
I suppose you do actually.
Because I think that that seems to be the thing
that most people want is for you to be nice.
And the truth is, I'm nice sometime.
A lot of the time I think I'm nice and sometimes I'm probably a dick.
I know I am.
So for me, one story about a celebrity does not make them who they are.
Right. Like if someone tells me for a lot of people, it does, though.
I mean, yeah, but it shouldn't because everybody's a person.
Yeah. So, yes, you're allowed.
You're allowed to even react to her
and say, oh, well, next time I definitely won't
or whatever, because maybe you're having a bad day
and you tried to be nice and she was a jerk about it.
I'm not saying you should be like that,
but I'm saying that, but that doesn't define who you are.
So I was just about to say to you about Ellen,
I've heard that she can be prickly, but I don't know her, so I reserve that.
Like I don't, you know, I've said to people,
I am not gonna judge this person
because I don't know him.
Now there are other celebrities where I'm like,
oh yeah, he's an asshole.
But I know him.
And I will tell him to his face he's an asshole.
Yeah, I think that that's, it's a weird thing.
I remember I was once changing planes at Denver.
You know how Denver, like you do road work,
you know how bad Denver airport is.
This is a fucking nightmare.
I got stuck, the only one I ever got stuck at.
Jesus Christ, I hate Denver airport so much.
Do you know if you see it from the sky,
it kind of looks like a swastika as well.
Do you know that?
I'm not surprised.
I hate it.
And the people at Denver airport,
have you ever noticed this?
They're so crazy.
Like there's no like sides of the street walking.
Like everyone looks frazzled.
Like they're racing to a sale.
Yeah. It's weird.
It's like black Friday every day.
And, and what-
Well, not black Friday.
It is a swastika.
Well, yeah, it's like black uniform Friday.
But they, I was getting off,
I was changing planes or something at Denver airport
and I bumped into this guy from Africa.
That was my fault.
And this African guy,
he was wearing the full like all the African gear and stuff.
And I bumped into him,
I was kind of embarrassed and I stumbled a little bit.
And he went to help me, he was a younger guy.
And he went to help me with my case
because I was kind of falling over a little bit. And I was like, ah, and I felt that way. I was tired, he was a younger guy, and he went to help me with my case because I was kind of falling over a little bit.
And I was like, ah, and I pulled away.
I was tired, I was a jerk.
And he said, he went, I'm helping you with your case.
What a jerk.
And I was like, oh no.
And I started walking away and I thought,
God, I am a jerk.
And I was looking around-
Did you go find him?
I was trying to find him to apologize for being a jerk.
And I couldn't find him.
So I think probably he watches this podcast
and now he'll know that, no, he won't.
Cause he'll think I'm a jerk.
He's like, I'm not watching that jerk.
I was gonna say, he'll know you're doing it.
He's not gonna wanna listen.
No, he'll hate me.
But the truth is he didn't know who I was.
He was just, he just thought I was a jerk in Denver airport.
And you know what?
I, for that moment in time,
I fucking was a jerk in Denver airport.
But that-
But he might have known.
That's the weird part about TV and stuff.
Because I was nice to a lady in the airport one time.
She had a kid who was screaming.
And you know, some mothers have that, they get that look.
Like, this is the day I'm leaving the kid in the airport.
And I saw the look and she was frazzled.
And she had like an infant and a little three year old
that was going apeshit crazy.
And I had dog toys in my purse for my dog.
So I was going home and I just went,
squeeze the ball and the little three year old turned
and came walking over and I threw the ball
and the kid came back and I just played with the kid
with this dog ball.
You're an angel from heaven.
And the mother said.
That's horrible being in the airport with a kid.
Well, who are, how are you doing this?
Not who are you, but how are you doing this?
And I said, look, I'm not a mom,
because you must be a mom.
And I said, no, I own a dog, but you know,
how old is your kid?
Because he's almost three.
And I said, yes, aren't they kind of the same right now?
Kind of like three year old and a dog, yeah.
And anyway, I played with the kid
and I sat on the floor and the mom said,
don't you have an, I go, no, I have an hour.
And I was just nice to this little kid.
And I said, do you want to go somewhere?
Do you want me to watch them?
And do you have to pee or anything?
She's just seriously, like the look on her face,
Craig was like, no, well, next thing I know,
I get a call from my manager like a week later.
And I gave the little, you know, screaming one, the dog toy.
And it really was a dog toy.
That's what's so embarrassing.
But my manager said, Lynn, you know, we have Google alerts on you.
I want you to read something.
And the woman knew who I was.
She recognized me from TV with Joan and said this woman was one of the nicest women.
And when he says, I was so flustered,
but it was really sweet, but it made me go, oh shit.
And then when I was on TV,
I had other ones that were like,
I saw Lynn Coppola today fighting with her boyfriend.
And now most of them are like,
I think I saw you crying in the park.
That's what people do.
But it's funny though,, I think I saw you crying in the park. That's what people do. You know, but it's funny though,
because I think now everybody,
it used to be like, if you were kind of,
if you were famous, you were,
you were in that kind of position,
but no, that was very passive aggressive.
That was really bizarre.
Passive aggressive.
No.
That was a little passive aggressive.
Miles, that was a little passive aggressive.
It was like a-
I knew while you were talking, so I was off camera. Yeah, right. All right. Yeah it was passive aggressive. It used to be just like famous
people would get that. Like you walk around and like you do something dumb and get shamed.
But now I think anyone, because everyone has a camera and everyone has Instagram and all that kind of stuff,
that anyone who does something dumb
has the opportunity to go viral and be shamed.
Yeah, which is why I like to say to people, film it.
Film it.
Go ahead.
I don't care.
But I'm not you, you're famous.
You're famous.
Now, I have to always say to myself, I don't care. But I'm not you. You're famous. You're famous.
Now, I have to always say to myself, don't get mad at hecklers.
You're talking to them.
Yeah.
And they feel comfortable with you.
Yeah.
And they feel like you want them to be part of this.
So once in a while, I'll say, okay, you and I are done now.
I'm going to go back to my own show.
I mean, look, you've run into it as well.
It's like when you see people that have expectations
of how, you know, that it's gonna go
and it's not going that way.
I've done it, look, I've done it myself.
Did you ever watch, did you watch Game of Thrones?
I love you, yeah, are you kidding?
Right, so Game of Thrones, I got a call from...
Did they shoot in Scotland?
Yeah, Ireland? Ireland.
Ireland.
But I was in California and I get this call, they asked me to host the Game of Thrones
panel at Comic Con in San Diego.
I was like, sure, I love Game of Thrones.
I'd never seen it.
But then I watched all of it before I did it.
Like it was all DVDs and stuff like that.
So I watched it all.
And I get to the backstage at Comic-Con.
Then you were psyched once you watched it.
All right. I was great. I love that show.
And and I'm backstage at Comic-Con and all the Game of Thrones people is there.
And the actor who played Jamie Lannister, you know, the super handsome guy.
Oh, no.
He walked in and I went, oh, hey.
And I I hugged him.
I have so many of those.
It's so embarrassing.
And I thought I knew him.
Cause I'd just been watching him on TV.
And I went over and I hugged him and then I hugged him
and I felt him kind of like tense.
And I was like, oh shit,
I've never met this guy in my life.
And I said, I'm sorry.
I've never met you in my life.
And he went, no.
But he was very, he was very charming.
But did he know who you were?
Of course.
Maybe, I don't know.
But he, yeah, he did.
But he was like, I said, I'm so sorry.
And he said, it happens more often than you would think.
It's all right.
And he was very, very sweet and nice.
Oh good, so he was nice.
He was nice.
And that's the thing I have to tell you about.
The actor whose name I will insert later on, you he was nice. He was nice. And that's the thing I have to tell you about, the actor whose name I will insert later on,
you know that guy, he, what was his name?
Can you, he played Jamie, he's a fabulous actor.
It just, his name escapes me for the moment.
Yeah, that, Nikola,
Nikola with Cotsborough.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was lovely.
He was just lovely.
But there was another one that wasn't. No, they were all pretty nice. Oh, were they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was just lovely. But there was another one that wasn't.
No, they were all pretty nice.
Oh, were they?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They all seemed nice.
I was the stalker is what I'm saying.
I was the good, do you ever, I mean,
do you ever go up to famous people you think you know
and start talking to them, but you realize that you know?
When I first moved to New York and I wasn't even,
yeah, I wasn't on TV or a comic or anything.
I was an aspiring young actress.
I used to get on, I'd get on TV or a comic or anything. I was an aspiring young actress.
I'd get on the subway and I would talk to soap stars all the time thinking I knew them.
And I'd be like, oh, hi, how you doing?
And they would usually say, oh, hi.
And they would think maybe I know her, you know?
And then I'd go, so Dixie, hi, you know,
it's good to see you.
And she'd go, that's not my name, that's the character.
And then I'd go, Dixie, oh my God, you know,
and I would usually be really,
but one time when I was young,
people would sometimes say I looked a little bit
like Cindy Crawford.
Anyone watching this now, I do not look anything like her.
No, I feel like you did and you do.
When I was younger, I might've a little tiny bit.
And one day I saw Steven Spielberg on the street
and he was wearing an Amblin hat.
Carrying an ET so people would recognize him.
He saw me and he went, hey.
And I was right by Ford modeling ages.
He had every right in the world to think it was me.
I mean, it was her.
And he went, hey.
And I go, hi.
And we're crossing the street.
And I thought, I wonder how long it's gonna take
for him to realize he doesn't know me.
Well, right as we got close, he went,
uh, like the look on his face, Craig, like,
I can't even, whatever, I just called it on.
Like whatever happens now.
Yeah, it's my fault.
I started this. And I went, it's okay whatever happens now. Yeah, it's my fault. I started this.
And I went, it's okay.
And he goes, thank you.
And he just walked away.
And I actually thought that was kind of sweet to him
because he just said thank you.
He is nice.
I do know Steven Spielberg and I have to report he is nice.
He was very sweet.
But he was very sweet to me.
Like, thank you so much.
Like he realized like she's nice, you know, it was cute,
but it was really funny because he started it.
Like, can you imagine?
Yeah, I know.
I mean, look, I've done it.
And sometimes people will say, hey, how you doing?
And you don't want to be rude, but they don't know you.
So you're like, hey.
Oh, I have.
That's why in LA now everybody says nice to see you
instead of nice to meet you
or you never say nice to meet you to someone,
you'll say nice to see you
because nice to see you can be nice to meet you
or it can be nice to.
That's why in the South everyone says hey.
They just go, hey.
Hey.
Because hey just means like I might know you.
I might not. I might not know you.
They call all the guys are always called guy.
Hey guy. Hey guy.
Oh, I've been called that.
I realize now that-
Guy usually means they don't know your name.
Yeah.
But women, I always call a guy handsome,
if I don't remember his name.
Oh, that's very- Hey handsome.
Hey good looking.
Yeah.
So you can't do that for your guy,
cause it would be creepy.
You just call the woman skinny.
Hey skinny.
Hey skinny, hey pretty.
We don't hear anything else.
All right.
Hey skinny.
Unless it's the woman you hold the door for
and then she's like, I can be fat if I want to be.
Oh, well, see, I didn't make any comment
to this woman at all when I held the gate for her.
I just, I didn't mean anything by it.
I didn't, wasn't trying to oppress her.
I just kind of didn't think about it.
Yeah, you weren't thinking I I'm gonna take her power.
I have a new joke about walking down the street
and the guy goes, smile, I bet you'd be a lot prettier.
And I go, no, I don't know about you girls,
but I love a command from a strange man
and I don't know, an emotional command.
I always find that really nice.
But is that, does that really still happen?
I mean, I've had it.
All the time, it just happened to me recently.
No.
Smile, you'd be a lot prettier if you did.
No one ever says that to me.
And I went like this. Maybe I'm just pretty.
I did that.
That's kinda nice.
Were you right?
I can't believe that still happens, geez.
It does, and it's hilarious to me.
It's a good way to get yourself,
like I've even said on stage,
like I'm like, please put an end to this misery of a career. Like go ahead, cancel me. Then I'm done.
Cause you can't get fired from standup. You can't. Do you know, I noticed actually that some people
that go canceled actually started doing the standup. They start doing that. It is the craziest.
If you get canceled from being an actor or something, well, I'll go and do standup.
You go, oh, so it's all right to be a stand up.
Well, like, or they'll do this with me.
Like they'll go, oh, boo.
And I go, listen, no, you really want it
not see me do this anymore.
Just don't make a noise.
Just let's all sit and stare at each other.
And then I can just be done.
Like, please, please, I never should have gotten
as far as I've gotten.
It's been a long, long, I remember one time,
we were in the little room and I was telling jokes
and there was silence from the men.
Like, I was saying something and all the men looked pissed.
They were all kind of sitting.
It was before I was as nuanced a comic as I am now
The women liked me they were laughing but the men were very and I came off stage and I said to Jim Norton goes
Great set and I go. Oh god. No, I the men hate me and he goes they're not asleep
And I said what and he goes if they hate you it's just as good as loving you. They're awake and they're listening.
They can't get mad at you if they're not listening to you.
That's kind of smart.
And I said, oh, you're right.
And when we were talking about the truth,
and I know you have to go,
but one time I was doing stand up, maybe 15, no,
20 years ago, and everything was changing. I was doing stand up maybe 15, no, 20 years ago.
And everything was changing.
I was getting older and my jokes weren't working for me
because I was getting older.
It wasn't, I looked like Cindy Crawford, blah, blah, blah,
but none of it was working.
And I was, I put on weight again.
I always go up and down.
And I had these horrible like leggings on
with a big shirt, I was in Kansas.
And I thought, I said a little prayer and I said,
God, I don't know what to do.
Like, I just feel like a fraud.
And Lynn Coppola doesn't do well when she feels like a fraud.
And I said, okay.
And I heard, it was the first time I heard God say,
tell the truth. So I walked out on stage and I heard, it was the first time I heard God say, tell the truth.
So I walked out on stage and I said,
this is what you look like when you start giving up.
I'm not even doing comedy anymore.
This is more of an unraveling.
And then I started and Jim Norton saw me again
and he goes, real smart what you did.
And I said, what do you mean?
And he goes, you don't even have to do stand up.
If they don't laugh at you, who cares?
You told them.
Up front, you're not doing that.
You're not here for that.
And then eventually I changed it to people ask me
if I'm from Michigan.
I'm like, no, this is what you look like when you give up.
Right.
It's the same law.
Which is well crafted joke.
Well, I turned them into jokes.
Right.
But it's always, you're the victim.
You're the victim who becomes the victor.
Victim who becomes the victor.
That's right.
Right, this is what you look like when you start giving up.
But you know what?
I don't even care.
I'm here to get fired.
I'm just trying to get this stuff out.
Take what you like, leave what you don't.
And you know, it's wild.
But at this point in my life,
I'm pretty blessed to be able to still be,
I mean, I'm not famous, but I'm a bit of a journeyman.
I'm still doing it.
I think, you know, the people that know about comedy
and love comedy know exactly who you are
and are always happy to see you on stage.
And I'm definitely one of them.
It's a joy to see you.
Thanks for coming.
I got nervous to say hi to you the other night.
Because I was like, what if he doesn't remember me?
That's so crazy. That's so crazy.
I know, but that's who we all are. We're neurotic weirdos.
Mm-hmm. That's true.
And then you are your beautiful, effusive, lovely self, so keep in touch with me.
Just try to be nice. I will keep in touch with you. Get out of here.
Okay. Right. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life
what that meant.
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The stuff you should know guys have made their own summer playlists of their must-listen
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It's me, Josh, and I'd like to welcome you to the Stuff You Should Know summer movie
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Just like great shoes, great books take you places.
Through unforgettable love stories
and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.
I think any good romance,
it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.
I'm Danielle Robay and this is Bookmarked
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Each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars,
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from Jurassic World Rebirth to Fantastic Four.
Plus, we'll talk to the stars of Superman.
Is there a part of the Lois Lane costume
that helped you feel like you were really stepping into her?
It was the necklace for me.
Nobody's really asked that before, so thank you.
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