Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - Taint Fever
Episode Date: December 30, 2025Craig is taking some time off for the holidays, but he's come down with a fever... the taint fever. What does that mean? Allow him to explain. Have a question for Craig? Drop him an email at craigfer...gusonpodcast@gmail.com, send him a message on social media, or drop a comment below. _______________________________________________ Craig is also on the road. Dates and tickets can be found here https://www.thecraigfergusonshow.com/tour _________________________________________________ FIND CRAIG: Website - https://www.thecraigfergusonshow.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/craigyferg TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@craigy_ferg X - https://www.x.com/craigyferg Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thecraigfergusonshow ABOUT THE JOY PODCAST: Storied late-night talk host Craig Ferguson brings his interview talents and singular world view to a discussion of the modern state of JOY, sitting down with notable guests from the worlds of entertainment, science, government, and more. How's our Joy doing? Bridled? On life support? Where do we find joy in a world that seems by any rational measure to be collapsing around us?
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This is me, Craig Ferguson.
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Hello everyone, welcome to The Joy Podcast.
My name is Craig Ferguson.
I'm your host of the Joy podcast today.
And I've got to tell you, I've got the fever.
I've got the fever today.
I've got taint fever.
Now, I know that sounds like maybe a film that you might have accidentally rented
or one that I accidentally wrote and produced and started all by myself.
But actually, taint fever is this time of year.
What happens is
It Taint Christmas and it Taint New Year
And it's still the holidays
But it's kind of the doldrums or the taint
And I've got the taint fever
And I'm driving everybody crazy around here
And the house I've been banished here to go
Go and do your podcast
They said in their voices
That sounds suspiciously like my Scottish mother
Which is weird because none of them are
But I
I've been
Encey
after Christmas I get a little antsy
and before New Year
I get, I don't know, it's weird
any other holiday I don't get like this
but I get, I think a lot of people get like this
everything's closed sort of
and
online is open but online isn't real
I mean, I don't know, even me, this is AI
but the
it's just this weird time of year
I think a hangover from being in Scotland
when I was a wee boy
and between Christmas and New Year
it was always, it was like 10 days of Sundays.
Now Sundays when I was growing up
were pretty religious.
Well, you had to, the society observed things.
Like all the pubs were closed,
which when I was a child, that wasn't that much of a big deal.
But the stores were closed
and we had to go, when I was young,
we had to go to church.
I don't suppose we had to go
but we went to church
because I had to go
because I was a kid
and I was made to go
and I didn't have free agency
had no free will at the time
and so we'd go to church
and everything I just remember being
itchy all the time
itchy my wee Scottish trousers
my wee tubby boys sitting in the church
all itchy on a Sunday
and then there was nothing to do
there was a Scottish poet
called Ivor Cutler, very funny, very observant man.
And I think it was him who said
the Sunday is the long, dark tea time of the soul.
That may have been Douglas Adams, though.
I can't remember.
Ivor Cutler definitely said,
changing your pants is like taking a clean plate.
That was definitely Iver Cutler.
And I feel that that is, in many ways true,
the older, again.
I'm driving everybody crazy around here
because I cleaned things.
I'm not normally a housey
a housey person
and this is of like cleaning up and stuff.
I do my bit.
I do my bit, but I'm not usually manic about it,
but I cleaned the kitchen pantry
which got me in a bit of trouble.
And I also cleaned the laundry room.
Now, the laundry room is also where the dogs sleep.
And I don't know if you've got dogs.
But let me tell you the thing about dogs.
We have an Alsatian, a German Shepherd, and a Jack Russell,
so Iris and German, sort of organised, but also kind of crazy.
So crazy and organized.
The, and they kind of, their beds are, when they sleep at night,
they like to hunk her down in the laundry room.
Their beds are in there, and they're very hairy,
and they keep their bones in there, not their actual bones in their body.
they're, well, I was supposed to keep them in there too.
But they keep
bones and they, God, what a mess it was.
It's horrible. At least
I thought it was a mess. Everyone else thought it was unnecessary
for me to clean out the laundry room,
especially the dogs. Everybody was very upset
with the day. I'm stepping out
my lane is what's happening because I've got
the fever. I've got the taint fever and I'm stepping
out of my lane. I'm causing
problems around here. I'm upset
in the apple cart.
There's no actual apple cart.
But anyway, I hope you do a nice,
It was really nice Christmas.
It was a lot of Christmassy things going on.
Do you know what I did?
I watched two movies this Christmas.
I watched, well, I watched more than two,
but I watched Holiday Inn,
which is the first movie that Bing Crosby sings White Christmas in,
and then White Christmas, which was made about 10 years after,
which he sings White Christmas in again.
It's kind of a sort of,
The holiday end, where he thinks white Christmas, was made during the St. World War.
And, you know, it's very kind of, oh, we'll be dreaming of a white Christmas, so again,
and also the thing is about it, there's a whole scene in Holiday End, which I was like, oh, God.
Suffice to say, if you don't know about it, attitudes have changed, hopefully, since then.
and it was a bit of a shock
because I hadn't seen that film
and I was like
what?
But there you go.
I'll leave you to find that out for yourself.
Now, given that it's a podcast
and obviously I have no guest today
because I've got the taint fever
and I've been put in this room at the end of the house
where,
look, I have to say,
the taint fever isn't just
because it's between Christmas and New Year.
are there for the taint. It's also
I was working away from home. I had like one week
at home from August
until pretty much Christmas. I was only home for one
week. I was in New York but I was only at home
for about one week. And
in that time
you kind of get a little
institutionalized. There's a
British band
Blur
call it. They've got a name for it, I think.
I think it's Blair called it this
where after you come off tour
you've got what they call the
well I'm going to paraphrase
the jerk flu it's not
we don't say the word jerk but
you get the jerk flu
in which case you're kind of like
you're a bit of an asshole for a few days
because you're used to things being done for you
like when I'm working at all you stay in hotels
so you know you go out and morning
come back the room's glad and the bed's made
and you know and
there's a some
chocolates on your pillow if it's a fancy
hotel sometimes, which I think is
weird. I wonder where
that comes from the chocolate and the pillow thing.
I mean, I don't do that. Well, we could probably
put a Snickers bar or
something on the pillow, but my fear is it would melt
and then
the
thing that would look
bad if you had a melted
Snickers bar in your bed. It could give the
raw idea.
Anyway, look,
the, I don't know where at,
go to that but what happens is when you're looked after when I'm working in in show business
they tend to look after you a bit which is very nice you know they kind of like people say oh have you
got you know get in the car there and go there and then have you got coffee and people do things for
you it's very nice it's but it's not like real life you know it's not like at home and and you kind
of like when you're walking around especially if you're an actor if you're in front of the camera
you will hear people in the crew
and because they're doing their job
they'll be on headsets or radios and stuff
and they'll say, yep, I've got Craig and we're walking
and they'll let me you everybody know where you are.
I've got Craig, we'll be in the set two minutes
or we're just leaving the hotel
and you hear your name mentioned on walkie-talkies
and it makes you feel like you're important
and I suppose you're important in the way
that everybody's important that you're all doing a job
but I think it makes you feel like you're like
super important
it gives you a buy
I think it skews your perception of yourself
and you start to take it for granted
or at least I do
and it takes a bit of a while
to disengage from the idea
that you know
while I'm walking so you're probably all
wondering where I'm that's not how the vibe
is when you get home
so anyway I've got the
what I will paraphrase as the jerk flu
but I think
I think it's clearing up now
I made the bed this morning
and myself
and things are looking up
I'm not looking for praise
for doing this by the way
I'm just saying
that these are the things
I read as it was
oh
this is an exciting moment
my lady wife
and he's all coming in
oh no
all right
but thanks very much for that
I'm just telling them I had the jerk flu
oh jerk flu
you know I was paraphrasing it
all right
to say what it really is?
No. No.
You'll just make everybody mad.
But I was telling them, because of the taint,
I taint fever.
I've got taint fever today.
Oh, have you?
Were you cleaning?
Not me as enough.
Bye.
That was Mrs. Ferguson, who declines to be your own camera.
But look, here's what I was drinking right now,
which is, well, if you can't see,
what I was drinking right there was some water out of my snake.
cup delicious but what has arrived is a cup of tea in a tonneux caramel wafer cup now for those of you who are
not scottish and that might be a law of you tonnex caramel wavers may be something you're not
familiar with and i feel sorry for you if you're not tonnex caramel waver is one of the more
delicious treats in the world.
It is a wafery biscuit covered in
chocolate. Biscuit in the
British sense of the word. So a kind of wafery
oblong wafery cookie
covered
in chocolate. And there's certainly been some of them
eating around the house
in the past few days. We had
a consignment flowing in.
My brother-in-law
found some in a British store and brought
them. But
it may
contribute to what happened this
morning as well because I weighed myself and I've gained five pounds. I'm like ah I don't know if you've
been following my weight loss journey everybody but I've been trying to get a weight down I got a bit
chubby the last time I was looking at I recorded a stand-up special about I don't know 18 months
ago or something and I was looking at it in the edit I went oh my god I've gained so much weight
so I went on a weight loss journey and a proper one
like not well proper for me I'm not judging anyone else but I just I didn't take any
injections or any fad diets or anything like that I just started walking walking walking
walking every day a lot and I go to the gym and running and sometimes if it wasn't
walking walking running and going to the gym and I didn't do any of that over Christmas
and I get a lot of Carmel Weber's and so I've gained five pounds so science is real
I'm afraid and calories in calories out
so anyway the up show is
out here oh yeah I know I was going to say
it's the Joy podcast I'm your host Craig Ferguson
I'm going to take your tweets and emails I'm sorry I go
I get chatting and sometimes I noticed that
the Christmas last week's podcast I didn't do any tweets
and emails because I was just I was just talking about Christmas
and filling you in on what was going on
so here the tweets and emails people have been tweeting
and emailing me
this is from
Soala
from Lagos, Nigeria.
Wow. I've never been to
or Lagos, perhaps, Nigeria.
There's a Lagos in Portugal,
I suspect. It's connected in some
way to Lagos, Nigeria. But
there's a Lagos in Portugal
that I've been to. It's very nice town.
Anyway,
Suala,
I think that
forgive me if that's not the great
Swana
Sounds good
Yeah
Swala
From Lagos
Nigeria says
I've been rewatching
the Paris episodes
of the late night show
The old late night show
And I wonder
You're still in touch
With Kristen Bell
Well
I'm not in touch as much
But I mean
Friendly enough
The last time I saw
Kristen
I was doing
Dax Shepherds podcast
Dax is a very popular
Very famous podcast
called Armchair Expert
and I was on it and he does it
pretty much like the way I do this
like in a corner of his house
well he has a shed
I'm not in my shed
I do have a shed
but I use it for shed like equipment
I don't want you to think I'm
slimming it without a shed I'm a shed guy
actually truth to tell
I actually have a barn
a barn if you're not familiar
with them it's just like a really big shed
anyway
I saw Kristen then
I was doing Dax's
very clever
and he's in a podcast
and I was chitty chatting with him
and Kristen came over
it was lovely
and it was a bit of a reunion
from the old days
very nice people
the pair of them
always enjoyed their company
but they live in L.A.
and I'm here on the East Coast
and that's the least of it
I mean everybody's got
they've got young kids
my kids are older
what age their kids are now
actually who's to say
David Myers from Nashville
Tennessee I'm playing Nashville
pretty soon there's a bunch of gigs I had to
reschedule
towards the end of the last year if you were in
if you were waiting for me to come to your region
and do a gig
I'm sorry I had to reschedule
14 shows I had to change
in the fall and I'm doing I'm picking them all up in this
in the spring of
this year, next year.
Well, this year. Yeah, next year.
It's 2026. I'm picking them all.
I'm doing them all. So if you want to come and see me
in your region, go to the website.
Craig Ferguson is coming to your region or something.
slash org slash
Goves.
There's a link to it here, I'm sure.
Anyway.
Oh, yeah.
David said, I know you're coming to Nashville in February.
Well, I just said that.
You mentioned that you wouldn't tour with a punk band again,
but would you consider a one-off gig in East Nashville?
I'm listening.
What are you suggesting?
You suggest that I come out to East Nashville
and you guys have a band and I come in sitting with your band for a bit?
Yeah, yeah, I'm up for a bit of that, maybe.
but you know
if people are
you know
if people are
young people are spitting and stuff
I'm no up for that
although I don't think
in the early days of punk broke
there was a lot of spitting
people used to spit
and it was gross then
and it's gross now
I didn't like I never like the spit
but it was kind of a
you know
we're so crazy we spit
I think though since the advent
of horrible diseases
communicable diseases
that have sprung up
from the late 70s onwards
like people are less
less into spitting
particularly after COVID
I can't imagine anybody wants
to spit their COVID on anyone else
so as long as there's no spitting
and
what else
as long as everyone's in bed by 10 o'clock
it doesn't sound like I am
going to East Nashville to be in a punk band
but maybe I am
I don't know
maybe I'm
so yeah
I'll be national in February
I guess
this is from
Matthias Baum
from Vienna Austria
it's very international
today
I've been to Vienna
you know I went
one of the first jobs I got
when I get sober
here's a challenge for you
one of the first jobs I got
when I was sober
was to film
a travel video
for British Airways
about
I got this job
it was like I would present these
travel videos for British Airways
and I went to Stockholm
and I went to Vienna
I mean I was
if I was two months out of rehab
I mean it was it was early on
Stockholm and Vienna
and I think I did a oh yeah
and I did one in Charlotte
as well because British Airways opened up
a flight to Charmlet now this would have been
1992
in 1992
I did this promote these promotional videos
promotional videos for
British shareways
and we filmed in Vienna, Austria
in the run-up to Christmas
1992, it would have been.
So, I guess I was
sober. Almost
about 10 months.
And
in Vienna, Austria, it's very beautiful
in Vienna, especially in the run-up
to Christmas. Lovely cakes and
we went all around. I saw
the Lipizana Stallions
and I heard
the Vienna Boys Choir
perform
I went to
a dance schula
which is
a
bus train for dance school
and I saw people learning to dance
I learned to waltz a little bit
it was all the usual travel shows
stuff
but
I've never seen those things
so I don't know
if they exist on the internet I suspect
no they're probably somewhere
because this was before
stuff was digital
I think I must have been on videotape
good Lord
so I probably shot this stuff
in videotape
and it would have been fell
so I would have shot it on videotape
and it'll be on a videotape somewhere
in British Airways
in their shed
they've probably got a shed
or maybe even a baron
they might have a button
so somewhere in British Airways
there's a few old promotional videos
that I made for them when I was newly sober
I suspect it's not my most
relaxed performance
but I wasn't that relaxed at the time
Stockholm, Vienna
and Charlotte
and I remember Charlotte in particular because
we went on the NASCAR track there
they have a NASCAR
little school
NASCAR experience I think it was called
I think they've still got it at the Charlotte track
and Bray Sherry's
paid for it, I didn't pay for it, but I got this
NASCAR lesson
and
you get in, there's a special
NASCAR with two seats in it
that they were added
it, I don't know if they have it now, and
I go in the car
and
it was driven away by
a driver who was a NASCAR
driver, I can't remember who it was,
and it was a long time ago.
And I think
he floored it pretty hard, because
I blacked out
I'm flacked out
going around the first turn
and then after that
you know things get a little easier
and then they let you drive a NASCAR
on your own it's amazing
they don't
it was an amazing experience
anyway I did that
what the hell am I talking about
Vienna Austrian
right
sorry
Matthias Bonn from Vienna
Austria he says I'm currently
planning my wedding
should I do it
an accent yeah probably
I am currently planning my wedding
and my fiancé has
entrusted me with organising some music
do you have any suggestions
for which music genre
I should pick or which
I should definitely avoid
well given it's
Austria I would think
waltzing is the way to go
pick a three four time
the blue that I knew
all that that'd be good
for a wedding
waltzing at a wedding
sounds appropriate, isn't it?
I think what you probably want to stay away from is marching.
I know there's an impulse at that part of the world
play a little bit of marching music.
I'd steer clear on that, my friend.
I'd stay some marching.
I don't want to confuse you.
I've got two cups here.
I'm not, I don't want to do.
If you're watching this, if you're not watching this,
you're just listening to this, this will be meaningless.
But I have two cups.
One has water, one has tea.
Two fabulous cups, a snake cup.
And a tonnex caramel waver mug.
And there you go.
All right.
So waltzing for your wedding, I should say.
And let's take one more.
I think that would be enough.
This is Joseph from Cary.
Cary or Cary, North Carolina.
he says, this is a
controversial question, I don't know if I should
need your answer it, I'd like
to know how do you really feel
about bagpipes? Backpipes, of course
the National Instrument, Scotland, where
I'm originally from.
And I, I'll be honest with you,
I love bagpipes. I really do.
Now, it's an interesting thing in the United States
bagpipes if you're Scottish, because
I think as a Scotsman, or a Scottish
American man or as an American who is from Scotland originally I think of bagpipes as
being Scottish but apparently you a lot of it here you people like if you go to
Boston and here police pipe bands or New York pipe bands the they're kind of Irishy
but I think that's because the Scots Irishy but then the Irish have bagpipes too
But apparently, and here's the shock,
apparently, bagpipes are for the Middle East.
That's the, I was shocked too.
Bagpipes are from the Middle East.
Well, I suppose you go back far enough.
We're all kind of from the Middle East, aren't we?
But the, it was a shocker.
It was a shocker to me.
I do like bagpipes.
I feel like sometimes, though,
they can be in the wrong place
like when I hear
bagpipes in
rock music
it has it's a very
tricky thing to get right
there's a couple of songs I'm trying to think of them recently
not recently but I try to think of songs that have bagpipes in
I know that Paul McCartney's
Mull of Contire contains a great deal of bagpiping
but to be fair that is a song about Scotland
about a place called the Mull of Contire
which is a lovely part
of the world
and get yourself a tonne it's carbon
waiver the next time you're in the mull of can'tire
um
Paul McCartney had that song
and the mull of guitar bagpipes
and that works out fine
but if you put
it into a rock song
with lead guitars
I question it
I question it's a risky
it's a risky strategy
and also the thing about bagpipes
is they take up while it spool up a little
bit. There's a lot of
how
before things get started, which I
actually love.
But
you know, if it's like
guitar soul,
you know, and you can suddenly
garrarding lily
drum cell
or do that. Let's
not do that. But
you know, solos in
the song are fine, but when you've got
a, you can't just
like cut to bagpipes, I don't think.
I think it would be tricky
is what I'm saying.
I think it'd be tricky.
So how do I feel about bike pipes?
Well, it depends.
Like most things, it depends on the place and time.
But generally, I'm in favour of bagpipes.
They are very emotive instrument.
And whenever I hear them, I was in Philadelphia recently.
And it was a Sunday.
And it was the Veterans Day parade.
and I just happened to be in Philly doing a bit of work
and it was the Veterans Day parade
and I heard the bike pipes before I saw them
and I thought oh wow that's it kind of
if you're from my part of the world
if you're from my people you hear bike babies
kind of catches in your chest a little bit
at least from me
I kind of let go oh you feel a bit
lump in your throat and you start thinking about
you know tonics caramel waivers
and rain and all the things of the old country.
It's an instrument of great nostalgia for me.
But music is that, isn't it?
Music creates, music, a little bit like smell.
Music is one of those things that can transport you instantly
to a different time, which I think is fascinating.
Smell does that for me.
You know, you smell a particular scent or odor or perfume and it will take you right to the person or the thing or the time is amazing.
And I think music does the same in a slightly gentler way.
And it's funny because I think of my parents used to listen to this radio show on a Sunday.
Zaharan takes me back to this
Sunday where I am the
Taint Fever
Sundays one of the great
awfulness of a Sunday was
that there was no not even
any television
on a Sunday
in Britain
in the 1970s Scotland in the 1970s
so we would turn on the radio
the television shut down
I think there might have been television in the morning
but I don't think so but television started
about 7 o'clock
with a TV show
of the BBC
called Songs of Praise
and it was hymns
and people
it was shot in different churches
and it was people saying
and lots of different hymns
and
you know that was
entertainment
and then
something happened at 725
that was really good
there was a good show on
I can't remember what was
it was a comedy or something
and I think Monty Python
might have been on on a Sunday night
but anyway
the
Sunday afternoons
there was not TV
and there was nothing to do
and off times
I don't want to surprise you with this
but off times the weather's a little
grease
it's called in Scotland's a little ropey
so we'd put the radio on
and my parents would listen to a show
on the BBC called
Sing Something Simple
it's the name of the song
I hated I hated this show
sing something simple
it was very
remember I was a young person
because I think I'd love sing something simple
now it was all like 1940s
you know we'll meet again music maybe white Christmas
or and then maybe
but it was all nostalgic
kind of looking back
soft songs
and I hated it my parents loved it
And they would go, oh, I remember this one.
Ah, I remember that. I don't worry.
And I remember thinking at the time, I wonder
if in the future, you know, punk rock,
T-Rex or something, will be on
sing something simple.
Of course, as the years go by, I'm in my 60s now
myself, I hear, you know, T-Rex
singing 20th century boy, and I think,
wow, that's great, isn't it? That takes me back.
It's a great song.
And I am, in fact, a 20th century boy, I'm this 21st century.
I mean, we're in it, but I'm not over it.
I think I'm all of the 20th century.
And I get nostalgic for music, which probably sounds aggressive,
not aggressive, but rocking music.
But music takes on its time, is what I'm saying.
and so it doesn't have to be soft
trial of la la music to take you to a place
in time you feel nostalgic about in fact
it could be a real thumping slayer track
which takes you back to a beautiful evening
you spent with a friend you no longer see
so that's my take on
on the day
this has been the Joy podcast
this has been the Taint Fever
episode of the Joy podcast
I apologize if I
if I've transmitted my taint fever to you,
but my hope is that in some way
if you have the taint fever or the ass,
the jerk flu,
then I hope it's alleviated that for you a little bit.
My dear friends, I will see you next time
for the Joy podcast, which my guess will be
in approximately one week from today,
depending on what you
Listen or watch this. Good day.
