Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson - Tweets & Emails w/Snake Water
Episode Date: November 25, 2025Well, it's Thanksgiving everybody and what better way to spend it than with Craig and an old friend of his? So, in celebration of the Joy of the holiday he's bringing another installment of Tweets & E...mails. But this time Craig has a secret ingredient in tow. Have a question for Craig? Drop him an email at craigfergusonpodcast@gmail.com, send him a message on social media, or drop a comment below. _______________________________________________ Craig is also on the road. Dates and tickets can be found here https://www.thecraigfergusonshow.com/tour _________________________________________________ FIND CRAIG: Website - https://www.thecraigfergusonshow.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/craigyferg TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@craigy_ferg X - https://www.x.com/craigyferg Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thecraigfergusonshow ABOUT THE JOY PODCAST: Storied late-night talk host Craig Ferguson brings his interview talents and singular world view to a discussion of the modern state of JOY, sitting down with notable guests from the worlds of entertainment, science, government, and more. How's our Joy doing? Bridled? On life support? Where do we find joy in a world that seems by any rational measure to be collapsing around us?
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This is me, Craig Ferguson.
I'm inviting you to come and see my brand new comedy hour.
Well, actually, it's about an hour and a half,
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But what I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while.
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See you on the road, my dears.
Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Joy Podcast.
My name is Craig Ferguson.
I am your host today for the Joy Podcast, which I have to say is a rather exciting one for me today.
Now, listen, if you've been following this podcast at all, first of all, no refunds and my apologies.
And secondly, you'll know that this podcast started, it's called Joy, and it started as me talking to people about what brings them joy in their life.
And I found that quite interesting.
And I still do find it quite interesting, and I like to do it.
But as the podcast went on, and I only started it like a couple of years ago,
I found it more and more difficult to schedule guests into the podcast
and make sure that I could, you know, have a conversation with them.
So then I started doing it on the Zoom because I was, you know,
on lots of different places.
I was in London, well, you know where different places are.
I was in London and New York and Los Angeles and Arizona.
Mexico and never I wasn't in Mexico but I could be anyway look the thing is I it was too difficult for me to schedule one-on-one conversations with people in the way that I like to do it so then I start to do them on the Zoom and whilst it's okay on the Zoom I feel like here's what I feel then this is me blowing my own trumpet a little bit but I feel like if I do a Zoom podcast sort of interview I'm as good as anyone else but I feel like I feel like
If I do an in-person interview, I'm a little better than most.
And I feel like that's what I've decided to do.
Unless I can do it in person, I won't do it on the Zoom.
And what I have enjoyed doing is doing this podcast,
where I just do your tweets and emails.
You send me in the tweets and emails like we used to do on the late night show.
You send me in a question, and I answer your question.
I believe it's called an Ask Me Anything on the Reddits or the Face Tubes,
in or what is it? They call it
U-time. I don't know, but whatever it is.
Reddit.
It's like, ask me anything, but
you can ask me anything here on this podcast
and that brings me joy. See, so it still
fits in under the umbrella of joy,
so I will still continue to do
interviews when I can schedule
people and be in the same town, and I'm going to be
Los Angeles quite soon, so I think I'll be able to do a couple
there because I have some people there that I
like and I want to talk to. And then I'm
in New York quite a lot.
and it's possible to do it there and I'll do it anywhere I am but here's the upshot of what happened today so I'm doing it with you guys today because I'm at home for the first time in ages I've been away traveling and now I'm at home and because I'm at home and I moved house I don't know if you guys have been following me on the I don't know the home internet but or just following me just following me down the street but I'm I've been I moved house about a year and
18 months ago.
And
any of you
who have moved to us
before,
no, especially if
you're a bit older
like me,
I said,
I'm going to get so
gray.
If you're a bit
older and like me,
you've accumulated
a lot of stuff
and it takes
a lot of time
to unpack all that stuff.
And I've been
unpacked and unpacked
it, so I've been home.
This is the exciting part.
I've been home for a little bit
the last few days
and I unpacked a few more
boxes.
And one of the
boxes I unpacked was very exciting
for me because I'll be looking for this for a while
and people still talk about it
and you guess what it is
and it's not no it's not that
it's this guy
yeah look at
now
this is the this is not the actual
cup that I used to use on late night because I don't know where
that is I think that must be in another box
this is the backup traveling cup
because the other cup had
someone drew up cocking balls underneath it
and um i don't know who it was i really don't know how it was i don't think it was me but it may
have been anyway someone drew a rude thing underneath it we had to censor it and the the one that
i used to later had a broken fang and then it had a gold cap put in so that's somewhere uh in all the
boxes because i'm still working through boxes i have storage in it uh but
I feel like we're getting into the more authentically me.
I feel like I'm more myself.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I feel like I'm more in my vein of what I do when I've got this guy.
Like, you know, it's like, hey, everybody.
So, what do you think, Jeff?
He's not here.
Actually, he is here.
He is here.
You probably shouldn't tell anyone this.
He is here.
He's in my garage.
and he's turned off
but
someday in the future
not soon because I
got a lot of stuff to do but
one day in the future we'll turn him on
and we'll get him going
we'll fire up the old Jeffrey Peterson
and I've still got the old
secretariat
I've got two secretaries actually
the pantomime horse
not a real horse, a bit of a spoiler
the pantomime horse
secretariat there was two of them
and I've got both of them here as well
you want to know another thing
there were two Jeff Peterson's
the traveling Jeff Peterson
and the studio
Jeff Peterson people are shocked when they hear that
but if you look at the old
late night shows when we did
like when we were in Paris or we were
in Scotland if you check
out Jeff Peterson carefully in these old shows
you'll find out it's the traveling
Jeff Peterson you know why
different voltages
uh
Plus, you don't want to travel with a robot skeleton.
We don't get stopped at the airport.
T.S. You go crazy.
All right. So this is, then, to all the dates and purposes, my friend, one of the Joy podcasts, when I said, friend, I meant you personally.
My friends, this is one of the Joy podcasts where we do the tweets and emails.
And you've been sending them in, which I'm delighted by.
So let me just start with this one. This is from Laurie B.
I'm looking down here because this is where my computer is.
It's not like I'm not, Laurie B is not down there.
If I'm like, hello, Laurie, hello, I have a question.
Yes, Laurie asking.
All right, here it is.
Do you drive, I, you know it's a computer on this computer.
Do you drive in both America and Scotland?
If so, how do you possibly do it?
I'm going to be traveling to Scotland and I can't imagine driving on the left side of the road.
Well, let me tell you this.
It's very simple because I do drive in both America and Scotland.
and what you do is this when you get to the country you're going at I presume you have a rental car I would assume you would get a rental car you keep the steering wheel to the center of the road right so where the line is that's the nearest with it so if the steering wheel is the other center of the road then you're driving on the right side also a good tip is to look where the other cars are driving if for example they're driving down once they would follow those guys because they probably live there and um I would
I would do that.
Now, I will say one thing to you about driving in Scotland.
This is very important.
When you're driving, particularly in the north of Scotland, look out for sheep.
Because they often drive on the wrong side of the road.
They don't care.
Also, the sheep don't drive in Scotland.
They are driven.
They're VIPs.
They usually sit in the back of a limousine.
Enjoying just enjoying the ride.
Just enjoying the ride, man.
Ah.
They,
but sheep are, a lot of times when you're driving up in the north of Scotland,
the sheep will just wander on to the road.
Just wander on there.
You've got to look out for them.
Because if you accidentally kill a sheep in Scotland,
it's 20 years in prison, then that's not true.
But if it is, that would be bad.
But it's not.
But if it is, which it is.
which it isn't
but if it was true
which it will be because people always
say there's no smoke without fire
do you know that's an interesting thing
I noticed that about the internet
or
FaceTime or
it's a station
if people
if rumors start on the internet
people say you know even if they know it's crap
they'll say if there's no smoke without fire
and I like well
you know there is actually smoke without fire
In fact, anyone who has worked in show business for more than maybe 10 minutes knows that it's mostly smoke and no fire.
The analogy that's used or the description that's used of show business is all smoking mirrors.
So it's not there's no smoke without fire.
There's no smoke without mirrors is what you should probably say.
And smoking mirrors, they say that because that's how they used to get these old effects and the old Hollywood music, not Hollywood.
The old vaudeville music halls and, you know, the old magicians, the Houdini's and stuff,
they would smoke and mirrors and they would create illusions.
And I think that for me, the idea of there's no smoke without fire is yet another misdirect
by the Illuminati on the internet that are trying to make you believe things that are not truly,
oh my God, I've got internet crazy.
Oh God, hang on me to calm down a bit.
Snake water
The greatest water of all
Dry snake water
What do you think, Jeff?
I miss that guy
But you know what? He's in my garage
Waiting for a time when his country needs him like King Arthur
Anyway, I hope that answers your question
About what side of the street do you drive on in Scotland
It's the side that the sheep are not on
And the people are driving on
this is from
again this is a computer not
actually Katrina
from Boca Raton
Florida because of course
Boca Raton is not right here
if I was in Boca Raton
it would be sunnier and there'd be lots of old people
wearing Tommy Bahamas
shirts and I'd be one of them
Katrina from Boca Raton in Florida says
Craig do you have a special
item that you travel with
that makes life on the road more enjoyable
such as bespoke velvive
velvety pajamas or an
opera Viking hat
that's a very good question
I wouldn't travel without an opera
Viking head up because that's
I'm a hand luggage queen
I like to only have hand luggage
and one of these people that I'll
like I'll cram everything
into such a small space
that if I have to unzip my
hand luggage, bang!
I haven't quite
got to the vacuum packing my clothes yet
but I would do that. I like
that you know when people like me
and they suck all their clothes right down
to little tiny amounts
and that's
something in the future for me
anyway what I think is
is that I travel
with what do I travel with
well I usually
I usually tend to be a bit
OCD I like to wear lucky
underpants
and they're usually blue
that's
I don't know where I picked that up
actually, but I do like to wear
lucky blue underpats when I'm traveling
to avoid trouble.
The truth is, I don't
know that that kind of thing
works, but
snake water.
America's first quite sharp.
So, no, I don't
really travel with anything in particular. I travel with
Thomas, who is my
tour manager, and he's
a six-foot-five
check
gentleman
he's quite lucky to travel with him
I think there's plenty of people
like I'd like to travel with him
I think you know what I'm saying
but that's not the relationship that
Thomas and I have
anyway
all right this is from
Kathy Rosa from
Salina Kansas or Salina
Kansas I think it's Salina I can't remember
again
Selina Kansas is not down there
this is just a computer
that I've received an email
from
Kathy Roser in Salina
or Salina, Kansas
insert the correct name of the word here
Kansas. Let's see I'm a little cutting my hand there.
That was moving a box. That was moving
the box that this was in actually.
If you could back in time and see any
concert or festival
who would you see
back in time and see
any concert or festival.
I think what I'd like to do, you know, my initial answer would be,
or maybe go and see the damned playing in London in 1976, would it be?
Seventy-six or 77?
I don't know.
But then I think to myself, well, I would have liked that then,
because I'd be like, oh, droop, poor rocks, pity.
you know, all that and stuff.
And I would be young and like all that noise and spitting,
but now I'm in my 60s.
And I like things quiet with a lot less spitting.
I'm actually moving from my spitting ears
into my drooling years.
So it's all, you know, saliva-based, really.
But what I'm saying is no spitting concerts,
more drooling concerts.
So I think if I was going to go back in time now,
like at the age I am going back in time,
but remaining the age of I am then
I quite like to go back in time
and see somebody like Bobby Darren
or Snattra or something like that
do you know what I mean but in their prime
you know where a lot of
where everyone was sitting down
but then everyone would be smoking
let me tell you something by the way
I stopped drinking
nearly 34 years ago
and I stopped smoking when I was about five years sober
so 29 years I guess
almost 29 years since I
as smoked cigarettes and I will be honest with you
if they didn't give you cancer which sadly they do
but if they didn't I would smoke cigarettes
I loved them and I enjoyed them
the drinking
I mean it really messed up my life but smoking
I kind of liked it apart from this
this is going to kill me
and I look forward to people on the internet
telling me that smoking isn't bad for you
because I'm sure that's a thing now as well
well that oh no smoke is not bad for you it's actually good for you uh if you smoke the right
way by the way the vape thing don't even get me starting on that um you didn't know you did
you asked me what you asked me if i went back in time uh which constant were to go to and i think i
would like to go to something uh or maybe even further back maybe like rimski korsokov's
premiere of the shahrazad or something like that in that
That'd be pretty good, isn't it?
Anyway, it's not possible to go back in time, apparently.
I know this is the internet, and everything is possible.
But I don't think it is possible to go back in time.
I think time travel, you can go forward.
I think that's the current thought in physics that you can go forward in time
by, you know, folding or through the wormhole or going to another planet or something.
I don't know.
I watched, what was that movie where,
Matthew McConaughey went
it was a long movie as well
I felt like I was traveling a time
in that movie when he was
yeah anyway I don't want to be
mean about it was a good movie it just it was long
it was long it was a long movie
this is
from Margo Lane
or from Margo who lives in Lane
I don't know or lives in that lane
Margo Lane from Elk
California or maybe it's from an elk
who's trying to
remain anonymous. Because if you're
an elk and you
can type and do emails, you probably
want to keep that quiet or sooner or later
they'll be having you on TV. And speaking
from experience, there's not always great.
So
Marco Lane
from Elk, California said,
what is your favorite Strangler's song and
why?
I don't know. The Stranglers
if you're not familiar with the stranglers
you can Google them. They were a very popular band
during the punk rock. I think
they're still around. I remember them
at the time
they had a drummer.
Hugh Cornwall was their singer and their drummer
was a gentleman by the name of Jet Black.
I don't know if that was his real name.
I suspect not. But his name was
Jet Black and
everyone had punk names back of the day.
You know, Dave Spitt,
Tommy, Pooh,
all that kind of stuff. I don't think there was a Tommy.
Pooh. I wish I'd
call myself Tommy Pooh.
You know what? From now on guys
because I know you will.
Now that I've said, don't call me Tommy Pooh,
you'll call me Tommy Pooh even more.
So look, call me Tommy Pooh if you like.
But I...
But that's not my name.
Anyway, Jet Black was the drummer with the stranglers.
And I remember we were old...
Oh, and their bass player was a French guy
called Jean-Jacques Bernel.
and he was the one that everybody thought was cool
because he's French
and he played the bass like this
to do that thing with the base
I believe they call it the walking bass
I call it the
finger surprise base
but that's he probably shouldn't call it that
so it's the walking base
I think that's or maybe that's the walking base
anyway
Jean-Jacques Brunel
or Brunel
or I think maybe that was
Isambard Kingdom
Brunel, who was an engineer in Victorian Britain, who was very clever, but nothing to do with
Stranglers. Anyway, the Stranglers had a drummer called Jet Black, and Jet Black was older. I remember
him being older. We all thought, man, he's really old, because he was, I remember he was, he was 46. We
were like, 46. How does a person get to be 46? I'm 63.
You know, um, anyway.
Snaigbara.
America's first squinture.
Anyway, um,
Jay Black was the drummer of the Stranglers
and we thought it was really old,
but my favorite stranglers song,
I think at the time it was, uh, heroes.
But not the David Bowie heroes.
It was another one.
No more heroes that they might have been called.
Uh, I think it was that.
I saw the Stranglers once at Glasgow.
Apollo, which was a big theatre in Glasgow
and I went to see the Stranglers one night
and they sort of
they were kind of, they sort of invited the
audience, it was a big thing then
to like stage invasion-y type thing
so the audience kind of stage-invaded
the Strangler's concert
and then they had to make an announcement
because some of the audience, not all of the audience
obviously, but some of the audience that had invaded the stage
stole all the microphones
which wasn't really in the spirit of the evening
and certainly affected the performance
anyway
favourite stragglers song
um
lower years I think I don't know I haven't listened to them in years
they haven't stayed with me as a band
maybe I shouldn't
and it's one of the great things about the internet
is not only is everything true
but you can look up
old music that you haven't listened to in years
and listen to it
so I may look up the stranglers
Anyway
This is from
Joanne in Richmond, Virginia
It's a very simple question from Joanne
Isn't here, by this, if you're just joining me,
Joanne isn't here
It's not like Joanne is here
It's just a computer with stuff on it
Joanne said
How do you take your coffee?
Cream, sugar, black, black!
Take the coffee black
I have to limit myself
with coffee as well now
I have two cups of coffee in the morning
and that's usually
unless I have a show
then I have a cup of coffee before the show
because I feel coffee
kind of keeps me going
but my real love
my beverage of choice these days
snake water
America's store squintcher
When you worked hard
and grim on your truck
drinks a little snake water
and you will give
Alright
This is from Katie
from Bentonville, Virginia
I don't know if that's anywhere near Richmond, Virginia
I wouldn't have Joanne and Katie know each other
I mean I don't suppose everyone in Virginia knows each other
but it's possible
Katie from Bentonville Virginia
says what is your persuasion
and that's her word, not mine
what is your persuasion on the Loch Ness
monster asking for a friend
well one I wonder if
her friend is Joanne from
Richmond and that would be amazing
like Joanne said I'm asking
about coffee but I'm not going to ask about the
Loch Neth Monster because I feel
that's too personal to ask a Scottish
person and Katie's like no
I'll ask so Katie says what is your
persuasion on the Loch Ness Monster
do you mean opinion or
what do I believe of persuasion
or maybe I'm not
I'm not trying to persuade you
that there is a locomotive nest monster
but I will see this
these things
don't happen back
to don't even know what I'm saying
the Loch Ness Monster
definitely
definitely is one
its name is Nessie
and when you're in Scotland
if you see the Loch Ness Monster
drive on the other side of the street
the thing to do is that if you see the Lock Ness Monster,
Master, drive on the other side of the street, and that is the correct, as they call it in Britain, highway code. That's the highway code. See a Loch Ness Monster, give way and drive around. I'm tearing through these questions today. Tearing through them. And you don't want to put it down to? Snakewater. America's favorite.
Alright
This is from Sartak
Niggi
I feel like I may be
buttering the pronunciation of Sartak's name
It might be Sartak Nige
I don't know
But anyway Sartak says
What is the
I apologize by the way
Zartag
Unless I got it right
In which case
All good
What is
the secret to your silver foxy hair.
Uh, time.
Time, my friend.
You want silver hair?
Let's keep going.
Genetics.
Sunlight. Lemon juice.
Lemon juice. And of course, I think we know by now on this episode of the podcast,
what we're talking about. Lemon juice.
And that's right, snake. Say it with me. Snake water.
Alright
This is from
Ryan Smith
All right
and I think I'll probably have to
zip it after this
I don't want to drink too much snake water
Which for those of you who are worried about
What is in the snake water
Water from a snake cup
Oh it is
Don't know
They're best stupid prey
Um
Ryan Smith says
Are there any quotes or sayings from
people you admired growing up, a philosopher, a writer, or a historical figure that really
stuck with you or shaped your outlook on life.
Ash, Ryan, too many to mention, too many to mention.
I, I, I, I, I, everything, uh, that I have learned, I kind of, well, I've learned
because I can read.
Um, and, and, and so I, I read a lot. I still read a lot.
I'm
I'm kind of rolling around
for a while there I was rolling around
in the great American writer Gour Vidal
because I like
his historical fiction. That's where he's at his best.
Historical fiction, really accurate historical
fiction, they're really good. But
writers, philosophers,
of course, from Descartes,
a epicterist, Marcus Aurelius,
I don't know, Kierkegaard, of course.
Who doesn't love a Danish Christian existentialist?
I'll tell you quite a lot of people.
But I do.
I like a bit of Danish Christian existentialism.
I'll tell you what I have been looking at recently.
And I look forward to your outrage.
But I've been rolling around a little bit in the sayings of the desert fathers and mothers.
the desert fathers and mothers
were in
about the second or third
century AD
there was a
group of people it was in northern Egypt
and people would go out in the desert
I think the first one was
St. Anthony
who became a Catholic saint
he wasn't at the time
at the time he was just Anthony he was just hey Anthony
what you doing and he's like I'm living in a cave here
for 30 years on my own
so I can think
well at first he lived in a haunted fort
this is an amazing story by the way you should look this up
he lived in a fort and was haunted by demons
and he was there for ages and then he had to move
and not because of the demons though he was like
you know anyway the idea
this was pre-church
Christianity they were aesthetics
there were people who felt like
you know
not eaten
and living a very hard life
was a way to emulate
they fell
what Jesus had done
when he went to the desert
it was a way to get closer
I don't know if I'd buy that
but I mean a lot of people
do believe it
and anyway so
I look forward to you
oh Craig how dare you
but anyway I'm interested
in a lot of people
who did that
there's a couple of
very interesting
sort of theology
sort of philosophers
the gentleman
he wasn't really a
Desert Father, but he was an early pre-church
Christian guy called
Origin of Alexandria.
He was an early
theologian gave birth to a lot.
He was actually excommunicated
by the church about 300 years
after he died for
he upset somebody clearly
after he died.
But
people trying to figure stuff out, whether
they be in that area
or whether they be
in the Enlightenment period
certainly
the philosophy
that gave birth really to the
in many ways I feel the United States of America
as the child of the Enlightenment
of the Scottish Enlightenment really to be honest
but maybe I'm wandering into
dangerous political
terrorism here
but isn't everything dangerous
political territory
even by saying the word
America unless you're saying
Steakwater
America's
Thirst Quenchor
Anyway what I'm saying is
They asked us the question
Is there any quotes or stuff like that
There's too many
If I single one out
It feels like
You know
There's too many different walks of life
People who are you know
Theologians people who are atheists
People who are
Who are very different
Christopher Hitchens
I am fascinated by us
work as well, a fabulously interesting guy. I don't have to agree with someone to find them
interest or even inspirational. It's thoughtful. Do you know what I mean? I feel like there's a lot of
right now, unless you agree with me, then we can't, you know, get along. I'm like, well, it's not
very interesting, is it? But anyway, I didn't know what I'd have to say. But I'm not. But I'm
say this I it changes you see when people say is there one particular quote I think the answer is
actually no because I don't have anything I can put on a towel or a or a little plaque or a
I guess I have some you know tattoos which have contain quotes which are meaningless and there
are affirmations and prayers and pithy quotes that I like
But I think it's a little like music language.
Do you know what I mean?
Like prose, sometimes I'm in the mood for Schubert
and sometimes I'm in the mood for Slayer.
You know, are they, you know, are you not allowed to have both?
Can we have both?
Can you have all of the music?
Can you have all of the language?
Can you have all of the thought?
Can you listen to everything?
Can you get something from all of that stuff?
Well, yes, you can.
But you've got to have this stuff.
Snake 1, America's Strasquedger.
So anyway, that'll do it for now, everyone.
This has been my joy to talk to you.
I'm sorry if I didn't get to your...
There's a lot of questions here.
So I'll do another one of these podcasts next week
because I'll be here.
Oh, it'll be Thanksgiving next week.
So I'll do so, thank you.
Thanksgiving stuff.
You know, we used to do that
when I was doing the late night show
when we would pre-record shows.
We would try and make them topical,
but some days there weren't
really things to talk about.
And then one day we came across,
I can't remember what day is, but Latvian
Independence Day. And then it became
a thing for us. We did a logo
thing and a little
kind of, and every year we celebrated
Latvian Independence Day. So if by any
chance today is Latvian Independence Day
and isn't every day in a way
Latvian Independence Day then
happy Latvian Independence Day
everybody and enjoy your snake water
America Sto-Squatcha. I'll see you next
week on the Joy Podcast. God bless you all.
Thank you.
