Judging Freedom - A Counter Revolution & the Ukraine Russian War w/Alastair Crooke
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Thank you. Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Wednesday, July 26,
2023. Our guest today is Alistair Crook. What is the counter-revolution all about? But first this.
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Alistair Crook joins us now. Alistair, always a pleasure, my dear friend. You have written
another brilliant, gifted, and challenging article called Counter-Revolution, Do You Know What Time It Is? What is the significance of the phrase today
in conservative political parlance of he knows what time of day it is?
What he knows is the time of day is that if we don't fight and beat,
if you like, the culture revolution, the wokeish, climatist, or color revolution now,
then there won't be anything left in the United States left to conserve.
It's not about waiting and trying to have consensus.
You have to actually tackle this culture revolution with a counter-revolution. Without a counter-revolution,
then the United States will never be able to return to the values that underpinned it
when it was first established and when the pioneers came and wrote the Constitution.
So the Democratic Party, which used to rely heavily on blue-collar workers, labor unions, ethnic Catholics, has now pretty much abandoned that group and has now gone to the hard left, manifested by this wokeism.
And five-year-old children are told in government schools by government mandates that they can change their gender if they want. You
are suggesting the need for a counter to that, lest that mentality destroy the American culture
as we've understood it to be. It's not me advocating it. It is being advocated by a wide number of Republicans, but also Democrats in their own way.
And I think this is what's so interesting is it's dissolving the old categories, left, right, red, blue.
And it is revolving around, it is sort of consolidating around values. Values, those that are in favor
of, if you like, the woke liberal world and the monopoly of the media in this, or those that are
trying to turn that back and to re-establish values of family, decency, integrity, and really some sort of honesty in life and in politics.
And this has now become a very serious thing. Overtones of this are already reaching Europe,
too. But it's a new phase, I think, because it is both appealing in some ways to both one section of the Republican Party, not, of course, the top elite of the establishment about values and a return to values and the return
principally, which he says all along, return to truth, saying truth. One of the things that
inspires me the most and uplifts me the most about RFK Jr., and he's been on the show and I believe
will come back again, is his devotion to personal liberty.
I have argued, and I think you have accepted this argument, Alistair, that liberty comes from
our heart. And when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can bring it back. In fact,
if it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can do much help to it. Has liberty died in the hearts
of Americans in deference to some sort of egalitarianism, forced government-compelled
egalitarianism? I don't think it's gone, but I think it's been largely forgotten. And there are
so many distractions today. I mean, you know, on
videos, on platforms, on TikTok and other things that people, it's there in their memory, but it
hasn't actually been actuated. And I think what is happening and what's happening in this,
both from left and right, if I go back to the old categories, which I just said don't really apply, but
it's coming from Republicans and from Democratic followers, the sense of finding again, recalling
values that somehow slipped out of use, slipped out of one's forefront of one's mind.
They're still there, but someone has got to say the right words that suddenly brings those
back into memory. And people say, oh, yes, I remember that. Before we get to Ukraine, I want
to ask a few more questions about this. And I don't want to get too graphic. But in the state
of New Jersey, where I live and work, the government schools are required to tell seven-year-olds,
seven-year-old girls, that they can become boys without a penis. And to make a similar statement
to boys, you can become a girl without losing your penis. I mean, this is reprehensible and
emblematic of what you're talking about. Do the government schools in Europe have the same reprehensible, despicable, anti-family, anti-faith requirements of teachers to speak to babies seven years old? I can't tell you if it's seven years old,
but certainly my children at school have this all the time. In one class, when my daughter attends,
there's a large section, a third of them say that they're lesbians. When they say they're lesbians,
they quote a whole plethora of identities, sexual, gender identities to which they say they adhere.
I mean, these are 13-year-olds.
They don't really know what these things mean even, but they dress as such.
They sit apart as such.
Their parents sit apart as such.
It's become very polarizing.
And then people are attacked within the class because they are not one thing or the other
or they're said and these so-called lesbians who sit quite apart and separately at the
class do say very clearly, you know, that we feel uncomfortable, we have no safe space
with the other children and we demand self-safe space.
But is this instigated or promulgated by the government?
Yes, in terms of the curriculum, yes, it is.
I mean, it's not law, but it is in the curriculum
and it is followed in the curriculum and the laws here.
And yes, you have young children, girls of 12,
who mutilated themselves, cutting off their breasts
and changing their genders.
It's terrible.
And this is why there is such a backlash that's coming.
We are heading back to some form, I believe, of sanity
and some form of trying to get back to values.
They've gone, you know, it's this extremism, whether it is climate extremism or extremism
of gender or extremism of diversity.
I think this is pushing people back and it's creating new coalitions, new coalitions in
terms of voting, as well as, you know, categories.
Ironically, is the war in Ukraine having sort of a unifying effect amongst Republicans,
conservative Republicans who condemn the wokeism and liberal Democrats who promote it? I mean,
the last time there was a vote in the U.S.
Congress to give President Biden his blank check, that blank check is now up to $113 billion.
We don't know how much of it he has spent because, as you know, the Pentagon keeps coming back with
new numbers. It appears to be somewhere between $40 and $60 billion. Imagine that. They're only
off by $20 20 billion and there's
no outrage. I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but my point is the last time there was
such a vote, it was only the hard left progressives and the hard right libertarians
who voted against it. But the vast majority of members of Congress in both houses, the House
of Representatives and the Senator in favor, is the war having of members of Congress in both houses, the House of Representatives
and the Senate are in favor. Is the war having a unifying effect on them politically?
Yeah, it's having an important effect because if you take all those values of wokeism
and genderism and diversityism and transism, whatever you'd like to call it, now a marker of that is support for the war of Ukraine.
So it's become a marker of being on side with a team of,
if you like, the radical team of culture war.
And therefore, being opposed to the war in Ukraine
is a marker against all of that,
wokeism, genderism, and all that
collection of values.
So it is actually changing.
It's bringing the Ukraine thing back into the forefront of politics because it seemed
clearly it was like wearing a mask sometimes in some places.
You know, it was a marker that you were with it or a marker if you didn't, that you were
against it.
Ukraine is the marker, if you like, now for where you stand.
You live in Italy. And as you know, I was just in Italy.
We tried to get together, but we couldn't get our schedules together.
We'll do it the next time. But I interacted with a lot of people. And my takeaway is that the elites in Italy are European elites who
nominally support the war, but the average everyday folks were largely indifferent to it,
which in some respect liberates the elites in the government and academia and elsewhere to do what
they want because they don't have the answer to the masses because the government and academia and elsewhere to do what they want,
because they don't have the answer to the masses, because the masses don't care.
Do you have the same finger on the same pulse that I saw? I was just there for two weeks.
Yes, I think that's right. I mean, you know, we do have in Europe a sort of, if you like,
a continent-wide deep state that works from within the system,
within the mechanism.
It has complete media support and messaging is all coordinated.
And so it's very hard to stand out.
So you have in Italy, as you saw, Meloni,
who is technically sitting on her electorate, which is anti the war in Ukraine, but she is for it because that's how you've got to do politics in Brussels.
If you want to get the right coalition in the European Parliament, if you want to have a say in who's going to be the next head of commission, who's going to replace von der Leyen.
You have to be pro-Europe.
You can't be against everything at the same time because they will just crush you.
Here is the cheerleader-in-chief, President Biden, making what I think is an absurd statement, but I'll let you comment on it. In Helsinki,
the day after, so we're two weeks behind now, the day after the conclusion of the NATO conference
at Vilnius. The issue of whether or not this is going to keep Putin from continuing to fight. The answer is Putin's already lost the war.
Putin has a real problem. How does he move from here? What does he do? And so the idea that
there's going to be what vehicle is used, he could end the war tomorrow. He could just say,
I'm out. But what agreement is ultimately reached depends upon Putin and what he decides to do.
But there is no possibility of him winning the war in Ukraine. He's already lost that war.
Imagine if even if anyway, he's already lost that war.
How absurd is that? There's no possibility of him winning the war. He either
is intentionally misleading or believing the mainstream media, which is largely fed by the CIA
and MI6. Yes, I think, I mean, I think this is exactly right, but it's not just him who's saying it. It's the head of CIA. It's the head of MI6.
It's Blinken. It's Suleiman. The entire team. The team is sticking to the narrative. Russia,
Putin is losing. Now, some people say, well, are they completely deluded? Is it they're being
misled and given the wrong briefing? Or is something else going on?
And I think there is something else because I think there is a pattern to this and what they're trying to do.
Because otherwise it's almost inexplicable that they should be saying the same mantra, all of them together, without any sort of qualification.
Let me stop you for a minute before you analyze and reinforce what you've
just said. Here's Jake Sullivan, the president's national security advisor, using almost literally
the same words as the president, to your point. I can't speak to what's in the mind of President
Putin. All I can say is that the basic U.S. position in this comes down to a single clear point,
which is we are going to support Ukraine without having U.S. boots on the ground and American soldiers fighting Russian soldiers.
And that will remain consistent throughout the course of this conflict. There's a CIA director and former U.S. ambassador to Moscow,
William Burns, at the Aspen Institute,
a place to which you and I happily would not likely ever be invited.
Weaknesses have been exposed by Prokofiev's mutiny,
but I think even more deeply than that,
they've been exposed by Putin's misjudgment since
he launched this invasion as well. And I think there's a relationship between the battleground
in Ukraine and what's going on inside Russia in the sense that if and when the Ukrainians make
further advances on the battlefield, I think what that's going to do is cause more and more Russians
in the elite and outside the elite to pay attention to Prigozhin's critique of the war.
Putin is someone who generally thinks that revenge is a dish best served cold.
So he's going to try to settle the situation to the extent he can.
But again, in my experience, Putin is the ultimate apostle of payback.
So I would be surprised if Prigozhin escapes further retribution for this.
So in that sense, the president's right. If I were Progozhin, I wouldn't fire my food taster.
All right. To your point, what is motivating?
I think there's a pattern here that explains it. Whether we look at, first of all, if we look at the Biden corruption
allegations that are made, what do we see? We see absolutely no acknowledgement of anything,
absolute rigid, no budging from narrative at all. And then you wait, and then, as I think Jonathan
Turley pointed out, you get a scandal implosion system being
produced. Suddenly, a year later after he first suggested it, you find that his son, Hunter,
has a plea settlement with late payment of tax that is due. No punishment, no jail or anything like this. And then all the chorus from the White House,
from the press, move on, forget it, it's over, let's move on. No scandal, let's move on.
I don't think it's working particularly because things are changing, events on the ground are
changing it. We had the same with nordstrom no admission
nothing narrative was held fully and then finally the cia comes up with a scandal imploder
oh we found a yacht with a few aqualung experts on it who go down and will blow have blown up
the pipeline and now i think we have with Ukraine, which is so significant and
so disastrous, the failure for the West as a whole. Again, not a line. Stick to the narrative.
Keep it going, preparing for the sort of scandal implosion, which will be to blame.
Look, you know, we gave those people everything. We gave them
everything, and they failed to follow our advice. They're at fault. But not yet, because they need
a few more months, really, to try and get to the point where you say, you know, Ukraine, let's
move on from there. Let's go to a different conversation. Find a way out of this. Because
they know, ultimately, you know, when all this talk about, oh, we could speak to Putin, we could
have a negotiation, we could do with that. They know what Putin's position would be. I want
capitulation. I want complete capitulation from Kiev. That is my bottom line. And that's what I intend to get with your help or without it.
But with that, everything implodes.
The whole narrative implodes.
NATO is shown up to be no omnipotent power.
Western weapons are shown up to be pretty useless.
NATO is not even shown to be pretty competent at running a war.
So it's a major disaster, I think, in the making.
America has run out of artillery shells to deliver to Ukraine.
And Admiral Kirby, the spokesperson for the American National
Security Council, acknowledges we've sent cluster bombs in their place. Is American
military power, Alistair Crook, largely a myth now exposed? Totally exposed. It has been exposed really cruelly on the ground in the UK. The
failure of weapon systems that were promised to be game changers, the failure actually of doctrine,
of actually operating, sending off the Ukrainians in tanks into minefields. The doctrine of, you know, 73 Easting, which your
colleague led, McGregor, Colonel McGregor led, it doesn't apply, it wasn't appropriate when dealing
with the Russians who spent months building their defenses for this. But nonetheless, they go on
with it, and they continue. And what we heard about the lack of ammunition shows, you know, people go into this and they
never think through.
We don't go to the next stage.
Has anyone asked the question, what happens if the Russians defeat us on the field in
Ukraine?
What will be the impact on the West?
I don't know, but I doubt it.
They just go in, you know, with a great deal
of enthusiasm and a narrative, and the narrative is everything. Oh, we're the West. We can't
possibly lose. McGregor and Scott Ritter say the war is over, the Russians have won, and
Zelensky is looking for an out. I can't imagine that he would expect that out would be someplace
in Kiev or anywhere in Ukraine or even anywhere in Eastern Europe. How do you see this ending,
Alistair? Well, I think, I mean, Putin has said it very clearly and others, spokesman
Petrushev and others have said the same thing. The regime in Kiev has to go. They say this war,
Putin says specifically, this war ends when there are no Ukrainian forces in the field and no NATO
weapons in the field. That, you know, is not a place in which any of those people you were just giving shots of from the team Biden are going to be able
to negotiate on that basis. It would be impossible. That's why I think they're sticking with
keeping to narrative. Russia is losing. This war is lost because it's an embarrassment and going
to become a worse embarrassment. All their concentration is now how to get out of this
without the humiliation becoming too evident, if you like.
Get people to move on.
You know, drop this.
I hate to say this, but this is my thinking.
The Biden administration has made such a mess of this.
The American public is so such a mess of this. The American public
is so sick and tired of let's move on, let's move on. The president is so desperate to change the
narrative from his reprehensible incompetent leadership to you need me now is that he might
cause something to happen, which will allow him to argue, you need me now.
Some sort of a false flag emergency type event, God forbid people die,
in order to induce the American public to rally around him.
I don't know what else he possibly has left of his decrepit administration and terrible leadership. I'll give you the last word.
NATO's not capable. There aren't the people on the ground. They don't have the weapons.
NATO is being exposed as really an empty drum. Well, Alistair, you have become a fan favorite on Judging Freedom.
I want you to know that.
So when and where can the Judging Freedom fans see more of you or get more of your work?
Well, I do those articles, a weekly article on strategicculture.org.
That's probably the best place.
The other one is not so accessible.
I do things about the Middle East and what's happening on Al-Mayadeen in English,
but it's basically geared for the Arabic world.
So you have those two places.
Strategicculture.org is where I get your materials.
Thank you very much, my dear friend. It's always a pleasure.
It's great to be back in the saddle with you, as we say here in the U.S.
I look forward to chatting with you again, resuming our regular weekly chats.
Back in the Bay.
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