Judging Freedom - Alastair Crooke : Do Neocons Suddenly Love China?

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

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Is Hamas re-arming our food and medical supplies getting in? Well, what's happening is that the Israelis are effectively making what was known as the yellow line, which is the line which divides, if you like, 57% of Gaza from the other half. And the Israelis occupy the other half, and the bare majority is the urban area. They don't occupy it right up, if you like, to the borderline in the north or the south, by ruffa i mean the palestinians are sort of enclosed so in only half of the area of gaza that they had before uh and israel is really i mean to put it in a nutshell israel is adopted the same process and same procedures it is used uh in leban which is there is theoretically a ceasefire in hand

and the israelis say they retain the right to attack whenever and wherever they choose that's what they're doing in lebanon even now they there is a ceasefire there's supposed to be a monitoring by the americans a part of a monitoring committee it's completely useless and now they've been given in lebanon uh an ultimatum again they have a few days um to for the army to start disarming Hezbollah. Otherwise, there will be a renewal of the war there. And it's more or less the same in Gaza. Any infringement will affect it.

So what Hamas are doing is, first of all, they're establishing order along with the other Palestinian resistance movements there, Islamic jihad, and all of the others. There are 14 altogether. And so they've been, if you like, clearing out Israeli agents and others and collaborators. And many of those groups that the Israelis have been using and the UAE has been using really are just, I remember them, Damush tribe, which they're talking about as a law and order, possible law and order component. I mean, it was just a criminal gang, kidnapping children, making their parents pay for them,

torturing people, and now they are being, if you like, taken down by Hamas. And I think most cousins will be very relieved. Is Hamas re-arming in anticipation of the resumption of the Israeli invasion that Smotrich and Ben-Gavira pressing Netanyahu to resume? Absolutely, of course. Yes, new weapons have been coming in. They're preparing. There will be perhaps a different type of war. but they are preparing for the next round.

At the moment, the ceasefire is there. Hamas are returning the bodies as and when they can be found to Israel. But I would just say the one thing that is really important to grasp about this is that Israel is entirely and solely preoccupied by the return of their hostages. They are, there's not a sense of the Palestinian hostages that have been released that have been quite clearly badly abused in this, that that's not even mentioned. But, and what is most striking, and this is the point I just want to underline, there's no sense in Israel, amongst the majority of Israelis, that anything wrong has happened

in Gaza. There's no sense of a need to atone or explain or justify what has happened in Gaza. In fact, they would, they just feel, okay, there's a SIFAR. We were really looking for a clear, if you like, humiliation of Hamas. We haven't got that, but we'll move on. And this is really important. I mean, I'm not just saying it is an anecdotal thing, but it's important because it suggests the war is not over. And this is what happened in 48, you may know, in 48.

I mean, again, there was genocide, 800,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homes. There was criminal acts of assassination, genocide, rape, and there was no sense after it. proclaimed itself the most moral state and the most moral army. But they had no, if you like, accounting for it. There was no proper inquiry. And so, you know, there's no sense, I think, we can say that this war is going to end. It's just, I mean, this is a pause in the war. Because with that attitude, there's nothing, you know, that this was fine.

You know, we just mowed the grass a little bit more thoroughly. time. It's not going to, you know, there's no ability to see that the other side, you know, has a point of view that needs to be taken into account or to say anything about what Israel did. And in fact, we have a big crisis in Israel, a scandal that is going on, which is rocking the state, which goes in the opposite direction, about a year ago in the mid-summer, 24, there was abuse of prisons in the Negev, in an Israeli prison in the Negev, bad abuse of the Palestinian prisoners. And some of this, which was their forcible rape, was filmed and videoed. And just recently, the head of the Army Prosecution Service, a major general,

Major General Toma Yushalami, leaked the video, and it has, of course, begun viral with comparisons with Abu Ghraib and all the other elements. And she has been hounded. She is a friend of the Attorney General who they're also trying. trying to kick up. And if you remember, there was a big fight. The units of the army came down and forcibly entered this prison to try and release their friends who were being investigated and held for the rape of Palestinian prisons.

And they forced that and eventually they got them out. And now they're after the Major General Yushalami, who is the prosecutor general for the Israeli army and want to prosecute her and put her into jail for having allowed this video to circulate, which they said was the worst propaganda that Israel has had to suffer. And she went missing last night and they thought she was committing suicide or trying to dispose of her telephone. They finally found her They, great applause in Israel, they have arrested her, and they say, now they're going to, they're going to go for her and the Attorney General. And, you know, what I've been saying consistently with you and on this program is about the split in Israel.

And, you know, this is, you know, effectively now an attack. We've had the attack on the judicial system and on the police system. and now this is seen by many to be, if you like, Netanyahu and the right going after the military and saying, you know, this was outrageous. The far right of pushing back and said, these people that raped the Palestinians should never have been investigated in the first place. Why were they investigated? And this woman is a traitor who actually then leaked the video showing these rapes, taking place. She's a traitorous and has to go to jail and bear the consequences.

And at the same time, the Knesset is just passing a bill, it seemed to have had its first reading, to make it a death penalty for anyone who has been responsible for the death of an Israeli. A terrorist, any terrorist who has killed an Israeli will be a terrorist. immediate, automatic, without any exemption, face a death sentence. There are a lot of Palestinians still in detention that may come under this ruling. So, I mean, the thing is becoming very bitter and very divisive in Israel. It goes back, and I just repeat what I said to you some time ago, about it's increasingly again coming the about the kingdom of judea either settler kingdom versus if you like

the state of israel the more ashkenazi the more europeanized formal state of israel and there is it's becoming a very bitter conflict brutalizing conflict internally these are the divisions taking place that in ukraine are the europeans sending arms and personnel soldiers to fight the russians not to fight the russians but they've been there from the beginning uh i mean but we're talking about 2014 they've been the they've been um european and nato forces um you know preparing the defense is preparing the attack on Donbass and you know this is this is what rarely produced the special operation in 22 was I remember at the time I mean they had the the the Russians had had been leaked the plan of the attack on the

Russian speaking cultural population in in Domba And it was, you know, clearly all our civil war being pursued against this Russian population. And at the time, the amount of artillery firing into places like Donetsk had gone up 14-fold in this period. And this is what provoked actually the special operation. Because just to be clear, Putin has a constitutional response. responsibility for the safety of Russian citizens. Many of those people in Dombas were Russian citizens, as well as Ukrainian citizens, but they were Russian citizens.

Now to China, what has become of the China Hawks, either in Washington, D.C. or in the White House? Well, I think if we talk about hoax more generally, We have to sort of separate and understand the various strands to these because they do have a certain commonality, yes, but they also have a division. And the hawks on, if you like, Russia and on foreign policy in the Middle East, mostly these are the oligarchs. the pro-Israel oligarchs who are the mega funders of the trump team and and you know it was extraordinary how candid trump was when he gave his kinetis speech and when he admitted that these donors you know imposed members of his teams john bolton and others and we know of course

Ruvio was one of those and so the team was imposed by these donors and the and those donors imposed extreme if you like pro-Israeli members of his team that doesn't mean that Trump wasn't pro-Israeli he was so there was a confluence if you like of sentiment there which we've seen very clearly in his relationship with Israel and with Netanyahu. Now, these people have one overriding objective, of course, which is to maintain U.S. military hegemony and strength, because that is what is needed to preserve Israel, because without that, Israel cannot survive. It needs the, if you like, unreserved support of the United States. Now, within those donors, and just to be clear, that we saw Maria Madelson and her late husband, of course, was the principal donor to which Trump preferred.

But recall in the late 80s and early 90s, there was a crisis. in the Trump property empire with in Atlantic City with his property there and it was going bankrupt and it was sufficiently severe the crisis that he could take down everything his properties in New York in Vegas the whole thing would collapse and so what happened it was Sheldon Adelson who came to the rescue and put together a group of like-minded pro-Israeli oligox with him to bail him out and to restore his economic fortune. And he came through it because of the help of Sheldon Adelson and the other group of pro-Israeli oligox. He owes them a lot and I'm sure they know

it and he knows it and so they have a very strong hold over that segment of policy some of his other donors who are equally pro-Israel in many sense but put ahead of that the see the importance of if you like a relationship with china with the motivation that china can be pulled out of its alliance with Russia, leaving Russia isolated, more isolated, and without the support of China. So the aim for from, if you like, I call these the sort of Wall Street donors, the business and Wall Street donors, wealthy, very hugely wealthy oligoths, do want to see a deal with China, and actually they would like to see the tariffs, Trump's tariffs, go completely. And, you know, they are lobbying and making applications to the Supreme Court for the hearing on Wednesday

to persuade the Supreme Court to say that the tariffs that Trump has imposed where there was no economic emergency were unconstitutional. And so this is a different, if you like, faction. But it's not ultimately very different. They are just neocons of a different stripe. And also, because they're very much the banking confatantity, and many of those, a few of those, I should say, perhaps, of course, have a long history. I mean, these were the bank.

were the banks. Some of them, their predecessors leading these banks, financed the Bolshevik revolution. Right. Financed that process. And then we're financing, if you like, some of the oligarchs in the 90s, in the Yeltsin period, when, you know, the Harvard boys nearly bought the whole of Russia for a few dollars because of the economic crisis. Let me ask you about President to Xi. It is not entirely clear, at least not to me, and I read many of the same things that you do, what President Trump and President Xi actually agreed to last week when they were together in the Far East. Who got the better deal, Xi or Trump? Oh, quite clearly, Xi got the deal. I mean, he exploited and thought about

the cracks that were in the system, the rare earths, and also the tariffs, which were becoming, if you like, counterproductive. And he exploited that very skillfully. It's not that they just have some dominance in rare earths. They're unassailable in terms of rare earths. Yes, they have 70% something like that of the rare earth, but they have 90% of the global refining capability, and they have a near monopoly on the tools and the methodology for actually extracting rare earth. In some of the rare earths, some of the metals, they have 100%. So they're pretty unassailable. And what Trump got in the end was, was purchases of soybeans.

This is, you know, why Besant is sort of doing victory laps and about that. It's not clear exactly what the position is because you probably know better than I. The farmers, the soy farmers are actually have got major problems, cost increases and things like that, which don't make their soybeans that economic. They're not economic against Brazilian soybeans. But anyway, he's agreed. He actually bought three shiploads before the talk started. This is, if you like, this is the cake that was presented to Trump.

And for that, you know, it is a truce. And the Chinese absolutely clear about this. they understand this is likely, a very short term, Trump notably capricious, can change at any point. You know, he's off now in the next few days to Central Asia, the stands to try and sort of pull them in in the same way and shake them down for a lot of money. And China weren't like that at all because it's clearly targeting the, the Belt and Road initiative of China. So anything can change.

Is Trump meeting resistance either from American elites or the neocons or the deep state to his stated wish of a normalization of relations with Russia? Oh, I mean, he was sent a very clear message from this. I mean, the way in which it was handled and finished, he was told no, no to, if you like, normalizations of Russia. As I say, the neocons still have the desire to see, you know, they're trying at the moment to the best of their abilities to try and force. the so-called frozen conflict ceasefire on Russia, which Russia will not accept and hasn't accepted. And they're trying to force it on, force it on Russia, because that is a way of, if you like, turning a defeat into at least a sort of conditional or a holding victory.

It gives the impression that they play the narrative with it to say, oh, but you know, this war is sort of eating away at the Russian economy. It's getting worse and worse. And, you know, in a few years' time, we'll be in a position to sort of have all our militaries that stood up and Russia will be weakened. I mean, it's nonsense. But, I mean, this is how they're trying to, to their own electorates. in Europe and elsewhere, try and sell, you know, the fact that there's been a huge defeat, an unfolding defeat. A defeat is unfolding at this moment, you know, at Pocross,

and in those defensive line states around in northern Zimbab. So, I mean, this is, this is the aim. But, you know, some, I mean, there is a lot of bad blood between the those oligarchs and bankers who financed the Russian Revolution, and from earlier, who hated Stalin, as you know how much this Trotskyists detested, American Trotskyists, always detested Stalin as being an anti-Semit. So there's an element of sort of personal animus in this. But these are the mega donors, and they just, it's not,

that they are ideologically different from the ones that are totally focused on, if you like, Israel and on Russia. But they are slightly different from the ones who would like to see some sort of pulling of China in because they are terrified of two things. They're terrified that the AI bubble, the artificial intelligence bubble, will be burned. and will pop and that will cause mayhem in in in in the markets in the financial markets and and and Trump and and the as a whole the team are very worried that you know that the Supreme Court could rule that the tariff most of the tariffs are unconstitution and that he or even oblige him to repay

the the money that is been raised on those tariffs, the billions that have been raised on that, which would be obviously a real crisis. Last question. Is Syrian President Al Jolani, a person you ever thought you'd see fetid in the Oval Office with the President

of the United States? I think it's actually despicable. Am I surprised you know i've always known and i've written about it for a long time how much cia and the establishments were were were playing um with with jolani and nusra um we now know at least has been reporting that during 22 23 2022 23 u.s aid and the various NGO vehicles uh were putting $22 billion into Syria. I mean, huge sums, and a lot of that was going into Nostra.

Jeffries, Ambassador Jeffries, has admitted they were paying Jolani many years ago and bringing him in to the process. It's the old and usually often very destructive and counterproductive. productive game of sort of arming and pushing the extreme militants into the political frame to break up and create, if you like, the fluidity and the movement by which then the US can move in and change the whole paradigm in a country. Unfortunately, it's going to be at the expense of many other whites and Christians and Drews and others who are being killed even now in Syria.

I'm amazed that anyone should want to shake this man's hand, but then, you know, this has been going on for a long time, this playbook by the United States, by the CIA. The military actually took a rather different view under General Flynn. He did have, he warned very clearly, I just want to put. that record because it was, I think, a very courageous thing. He warned that the people that the CIA, on the other hand, they were training and dealing with quite different groups of jihadists and General Flynn warned they were going to establish a caliphate. That's what their aim

was to create a caliphate in Syria and in the Middle East. And he said, this is not in America's interest and you know what happened to him as a consequence. Right. Alistair, thank you, my friend. Thank you for letting me go, you know, really across the board from Ukraine to China and everything in between. Much appreciated. I know you made a pit stop for us while you're traveling, and I deeply appreciate that.

All the best of you. We'll look forward to seeing you next week. Thank you very much. Bye for now. Bye-bye. Coming up later today at 10 o'clock this morning, Ray McGregor, govern at 1130 this morning, Larry Johnson. At 1 o'clock this afternoon, Professor Francisco Rodriguez from Venezuela. He's coming to us from Denver, but he is a Venezuelan and an expert on Venezuela,

and he's telling Donald Trump leave Venezuela alone. That's at 1 o'clock today. Judge Napolitano for judging freedom. Thank you.