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You Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Monday, March 3rd, 2025. Alistair Crook will be with us in just a moment
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Alistair, good day to you, my friend,
and welcome here. It's Monday afternoon in Europe. What is the fallout from the confrontation between
President Trump and President Zelensky Friday afternoon in the White House in Europe? What is the fallout in Europe? Well, people talk about hysteria in Europe,
that there is a form of hysteria or loss of, if you like, mental capacity that people are running
around like headless chickens. And that's true. But I think there's a i'm glad you put it in this way
because i think there's a very important point to make what we're talking about when we talk about
europe and when it's talked about generally is in the fact the ruling strata the deep state and the
ruling strata and the mainstream media but don't forget um you know
that there are two europe's because there's another europe like you know the many that
voted in the german election who are in favor of opposed to a war with ukraine and in favor of good relations, both with Russia and with President Trump.
They got 20%.
Overall, they just got the two branches, either the linker, the left, or the alternative
for Deutschland, AFD.
They have now a blocking minority, if you like, in parliament parliament so they can stop changes to the constitution
and they he does not the new chancellor does not have a majority why do they not have a majority
because of something that vance said very clearly on the firewall. Tear down the firewalls in Europe, he said,
because in all of the European states,
Europe has put together these disparate coalitions
of minority parties to form what they call the centre.
And the centre will not do business
and excludes completely anything which it regards as if you like populist
and it had support for doing this and but the consequence is um you know very little has changed
very little has been done in europe so the europe is is falling behind because it doesn't have the majority necessary to change rules, to change
the constitution.
So on the one hand, you have the elites and they are trying desperately, but they're doing
something which I think is extraordinary and they call it a historic moment for Western Europe. I mean, in rather extravagant language.
And put together this conference yesterday in London.
But what they're doing is they are going head to head with the United States.
Because President Trump and his administration wants to have a normalized relationship with Russia
to change the new global order, to change to a new global order that was made absolutely explicit
by Marco Rubio in an interview. And he said, you know, the old global order,
not only is it obsolete, but it has been weaponized against us.
So Trump is about changing a lot of things,
the whole structure about security for world security.
Maybe we're moving towards spheres of influence type of structures probably we are
um but it's a big project this and Ukraine is a small part of it but he wants the Ukraine war
settled and at the moment the combined forces of Europe that were present if you like in london uh this sunday wants the opposite
it wants the war to continue even though they have not the capacity either to finance a war with
russia or to provide the men for a war for russia or to provide the equipment for it so this is why
people call it delusional it is delususional. Instead of which, what they have
come up with and what occurred in yesterday's meeting was the formulation of a trick.
It's essentially, the aim is to put what we've called, I think, on this program before,
tripwads into the situation.
They don't have enough men to do anything significantly, but they want 25,000 to 30,000 French-British forces.
The plan is have a truce, and then if the truce holds,
they will put their proposals to the United States
and expect the United States to do what Europe is telling them, apparently.
And then next, they expect that that will be bolstered
by what they call a peacekeeping force on the ground.
But it ignores two manifold realities.
The first one is Russia has said categorically, we will not do a ceasefire.
A ceasefire may flow out from a settlement, but we are not going to start with a ceasefire.
No, it is unacceptable to us. And anyone who comes into the theater tryingfire and it will not tolerate a peacekeeping force in Ukraine.
It seems I don't know if Europe is hearing this.
And then you have President Trump very clearly understanding what is being asked of him.
They want to put European forces on the ground as a
tripwire. And if something happens during this period that they call a truce or these peace
keeping forces are attacked either by Russia, which is highly unlikely, but is attacked or an incident happens,
they will immediately come running to America and say, now you must put American boots on the ground.
And they don't seem to have heard Trump saying to them, listen, what I want is a deal. I want
the end of this war. I don't want to go back to the war as you do.
And this puts Europe in an unbelievable position of absolutely contradicting the desires and wishes of the United States and putting themselves at the forefront of a war against it and I don't think and I think um when he looks at it Trump will
understand um you know why is it happening and it is Europe who is saying we want war with Russia
we want the conflict with Russia which is the opposite of what the United States wants. And we want that.
And to do that, we are going to try and force the issue
so that America gets pulled into it and is obliged to conflict.
Where does this come from?
It comes from the deep state, the meta state,
the European branch of that.
Is it a surprise? President Trump mentioned in that famous encounter in the Oval
Office, and he said, you know, it is both Putin and I who were damaged by that Russiagate episode, by the allegations of that.
Where did Russiagate come from?
Well, it came from Britain.
Largely came from, it was certainly facilitated by Britain.
Let me...
To see this happening more.
Now, the next phase of this.
Lest anyone think that this is not based on fact when you refer to the elites
as delusional. Here is Prime Minister Starmer yesterday at his delusional best. Cut number two,
Chris. We will go further to develop a coalition of the willing to defend a deal in Ukraine and to guarantee the peace.
Not every nation will feel able to contribute, but that can't mean that we sit back.
Instead, those willing will intensify planning now with real urgency. byddan ni'n cynllunio nawr gyda phrofiad gwirioneddol. Mae'r DU yn barod i gefnogi hynny.
Gyda chyfnodion ar y graen a phlanniau yn y gair, gyda'r eraill, mae'n rhaid i Ewrop wneud y
listio pwysig. Ond i gefnogi gofod yn ein cwntinant ac i gyflawni, mae'r effaith hon
yn rhaid cael cymorth US sylweddol. Rydym yn gweithio gyda'r US ar hyn o bryd, ar ôl fy ngwylio must have strong US backing. We're working with the US on this point after
my meeting with President Trump last week. And let me be clear, we agree with
the President on the urgent need for a durable peace. Now we need to deliver
together. How crazy is it for the Prime Minister of Great Britain to use those phrases,
boots on the ground and planes in the air?
Does he want to start World War III in Europe?
Effectively, that's what it entails, precisely.
I mean, this is what he's trying to pull it in. But of course, what is the lie in that?
Is that it's going to be boots on the ground, that it's Europe that is going to do the fighting with 25,000, 30,000 men?
I mean, this is ridiculous.
These are the tripwires intended to bring the United States back into conflict with Russia.
The Europeans would prefer to burn their bridges, if you like,
with the United States and go into conflict with Trump
rather than to see Russia in any form win.
They said it is more important than peace to ensure the defeat of Russia.
That's the basis, the underlining.
It's more important than peace that Russia is seen to be defeated in this war.
And they've said this explicitly.
And I think Trump sees this clearly.
And this is why I think he understands Zelensky
and now Zelensky is full of bravado after having been received by the king
and all of this hugging and messages of love from leading European elites, not the people, is that he's now saying, well, he won't go.
He won't leave. It's one thing to hold elections, but now I have the support of Europe. You're not
going to get rid of me. So now he's challenging America as well. Do we know if the German chancellor-in-waiting, because he doesn't have a government yet, you talked about that earlier in the program,
Frederick Mers was there in London, and do we know if he and President Macron also promised boots on the ground and planes in the air, being as pro-war as they have been.
He wasn't, because Scholz is still the Chancellor at the moment,
and Scholz was there.
And Scholz is against, if you like, military forces.
But you're right about Merz.
He is promising the militarization and promising also
declaring in this extraordinary way that Germany should make itself independent of the United
States and, if you like, challenge the United States. But he has no army. It's an imaginary army. And he's not going to be
able to, because of the, I set out some of these things in a piece I wrote last week, but there is
the debt break in Germany. And because, if you like, the AFD and linker, have a third of a majority in parliament,
they can stop changes to that.
And without that, he can only spend money on his military
by taking it away from social projects, social welfare,
from the railways, from infrastructure.
And that was what brought down the first coalition,
that they were taking money from day
schools from the train system in order to give it to Ukraine and we have now um also Starmer giving
another a large amount of money to Ukraine at this meeting and promising more now i'm sure on thursday there's to be another emergency meeting
an emergency meeting of the europeans and um von der leyen is saying we must make um you know
ukraine we must weaponize we must build our forces there is nothing in the European treaties for a common defense structure.
In fact, the European treaties, because if you recall, I was part of that and worked for Salana, who was a former secretary general of NATO at the time.
The treaties say European security policy must follow that of NATO, determined by NATO.
So there's no ability.
And they will try and do that.
But the point here is if they try and create a military out of nothing,
they can only do it by debt, by issuing more and more debt.
We all know the dangers of that. Alasdair, do the NATO elites privately admit that they have no military force whatsoever
without the United States? They say they won't admit that,
but they do quickly add, without the backstop of the US, it's impossible to put boots on the ground. They
acknowledge, without the United States, it's impossible. And their idea of putting airplanes
up or having, if you like, a no-fly zone would depend entirely on the American willingness
to risk their airplanes in conflict with Russian aircraft.
And Trump is not going to do that.
And as I say, the point is, you know, Trump's concern, his relationship with Russia is not just about Ukraine as the Europeans want to make it.
It is about a much bigger project
which involves nuclear weapons,
it involves the Middle East,
it involves energy, business, many things.
He is not wanting to get, if you like,
sabotaged by Europe in this way.
So I think what we will see next are two things.
I mean, this is my speculation.
But I imagine he, you know, he was very polite and, you know,
jocular with the European leaders when they came before Zelensky.
But I think he'll give them a smackdown quite soon.
And he's going to give Zelensky a smackdown.
Because he wants to get back
to his project. We know that President Putin would not tolerate a ceasefire because Foreign
Minister Lavrov has said that many times. They're not going to stop until they achieve their goal.
Why does Zelensky seem to fear a ceasefire? Wouldn't it bolster his international
credibility if he called for one?
He is frightened that if there was, first of all, that if a ceasefire was called, it would lead to his downfall because his only reason for staying or his only claim
for remaining the president of Ukraine is that there is military law enacted which supersedes as he claims the constitution but as soon as there's a ceasefire
and there is no conflict even temporarily then there is no reason why not to have an election
and in which case he might lose power altogether and so he doesn't want to have that risk
and now he's saying well you can't get rid of me.
He's actually taunting because there's been talk in Washington
that he has to go, I mean, from the team,
that maybe even Lindsey Graham is saying he needs to go.
And he's saying, well, you can't.
Didn't you see what happened in Europe?
All these people were hugging me and saying they see me as a hero.
I'm not going.
So, I mean, I think, you know, Trump, obviously, I'm sure he suspects that the other fingers in this pie, not a million miles distant from Washington, that are encouraging the Europeans in this way.
And I think he's going to have to very quickly put down the Europeans. I mean, I'm sure he'll
do it in his usual jocular fashion, but it'll be a put down nonetheless. And the same for Zelensky. Here's President Zelensky on Saturday
talking about whether or not, this doesn't make much sense to me, but this is
his thinking, whether or not he can run for re-election
at the present time. Cut number five, Chris.
If I'm to be changed, and I'll hear, how can I put it,
what's happening with the і я почути, як я можу сказати, що відбувається з підтримкою. Меняти мене просто буде непросто. Тобто мало просто планувати вибори.
Треба мене ще й не допустити.
Тобто це трішки складніше.
Тобто, це треба домовлятися зі мною. from participating in the elections. And it will be a bit more difficult so they'll have to negotiate with me.
And I said that I'm exchanging it for NATO membership.
And then it means that I've fulfilled my mission.
There is NATO.
It means I've fulfilled my mission.
Also delusional, I suggest, if he thinks there's any circumstances under which Ukraine would join NATO, triggered by his resignation.
I think this is absurd.
Just moving on a little bit. What do you think?
Can I just say, I think, you know, when he says that, it's because people have had advised him
before Friday's meeting to stand tall against Trump. And I think that came from elements,
if you like, call it the meta state, or whether it is part of the European or the American deep state.
It doesn't matter.
But they advised him to stand tall and challenge.
This is part of a bigger challenge against Mr. Trump and what he is trying to do. They are trying to undermine his attempt to establish,
if you like, a new relationship with Russia. And that should be really understood. And again,
as I say, this is only the elites, the ruling classes and the media. But most Europeans look, there are protests taking place in Romania and other parts at the moment,
the strong support for a normalization, shared support with, if you like, the Trump team for a normalization with Russia and an end to this talk of war.
European, ordinary Europeans don't want war with Russia.
It seems absolutely nuts.
Why would we want a war with Russia?
We couldn't possibly win a war with Russia.
These elites, Prime Minister Starmer, Chancellor-to-be Mertz, President Macron, do they go to bed at night
wondering, worrying, and fearing that Russia might attack them?
No, this is made up. And, you know, Trump said it the other day in one of the press things.
He was told, you know, but the Europeans are frightened about an invasion
of NATO by Russia. And he said, I don't believe that. I don't believe it for one moment. Right.
It's not, you know, and nor really do Europeans. This is being used to manage the European,
if you will. And, you know, in countries like Britain, there is great support,
which is not just in the ruling elite, but there is support.
You know, Zelensky has been built up as a hero fighting for Europe.
I mean, endlessly, day after day. And now, and to underline my point that there's, you know, that this is,
there's an element of the meta state at the moment. If you read the European press,
what do you see? Oh, Russia is likely to collapse soon. They're failing. Yes, they're making some
progress on the battlefield, but they are are losing their economy is coming and they're
going to collapse and they won't be able to sustain it one little push one more exercise
and then uh russia will fall down and um we will have all the benefits of a collapse of Russia. And this is being… It's rubbish.
You'll find it across… total rubbish. But, you know, the mainstream media is very controlled
in Europe and they're pushing this out across many, many areas. The same story, you know,
the collapse is coming, Russia is sort of overextended. Yes, they've done a little bit, but, you know, they can't go on another year and they'll be finished.
And that's why many Europeans think that, you know, if they can only persuade Trump to go on a bit, you know, deus ex machina, Putin will go.
Right.
Perhaps the answer to this is
ridiculous, I don't know, but what on
earth do you think President
Zelensky and King Charles
discussed? What could Charles
possibly have said to him?
I don't think I'd like to answer that.
Okay.
You are still the supreme.
I just think.
All right.
Thank you.
I think you guessed it.
Absolutely.
What he said.
Yes.
Thank you so much for your analysis today.
My goodness.
I had pages of comments to make to you and barely scratched
the surface because you hit so many minutes on the head. Thank you very much.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry if I interrupted.
Oh, don't be silly. Your comments are right on the mark and deeply appreciated and utterly
relevant and uniquely Crookian. Thank you so much, Alistair. All the best. We'll see you next
week, my dear friend. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. And coming up later today at 10 o'clock
this morning, Ray McGovern at 1130, Larry Johnson at one o'clock, Colonel Douglas McGregor at two
o'clock, Scott Ritter at four o'clock, Max Blumenthal,. At two o'clock, Scott Ritter. At four o'clock,
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