Judging Freedom - Alastair Crooke : Israel Losing US Support Fast.

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:19 That's an equivalent to $15 a month. Limited time new customer offer for first three months only. Speeds may slow above 35 gigabytes on unlimited. plan. Taxes and fees extra. See Mint Mobile for details. Hi, everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Monday, September 29th, 2025. Alastair Crook joins us now. Alastair, a pleasure, my dear friend.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Thank you very much for joining us. I want to explore in some depth your understanding of what Prime Minister Netanyahu and the Israelis are up to. But before we get to Netanyahu, Trump's handoff of the Ukraine war to the Europeans, is this going to affect the war in any way? I think what is going on is that actually this increase tension with Russia is more about keeping Russia busy and occupying. Because the main scene, the main event, I think, for President Trump is, in fact, the war on Iran and the subsequent control of all the oil and gas resources of the Middle East, which taken together with Venezuela and its massive oil resources, and Argentina, where a deal has just been done, which has got large shale oil and gas resources. I think this is all about the American debt and about Trump's aim to keep to put all of these
Starting point is 00:03:44 assets, if you like, in the balance sheet and to pay down the debt from these resources. So that really what we're seeing in Ukraine, I think it's quite clear because Trump, although he said very clearly, he said, look, you know, oh, of course, he just took the Kellogg line. I mean, you know, Ukraine is winning. Ukraine is doing fine. And he said all that, but he said, equally, I don't want escalation. So he was facing both ways, if you like, on this. He said, okay, yes, Ukraine is winning. So we don't really have to do anything. Europeans can pay for everything as well, that's fine. But at the same time, I don't want to see an increase in tensions with Russia. In other words, he wants the Russian, if you like conflict, parked, simmering, but not going into a boil,
Starting point is 00:04:49 when the real issue is going to be the coming conflict with Iran and the possible if you like, I think what the Trump team expect, but I don't think we'll get, is a capitulation by Iran. But if they not, they will go to war, and I think they will try and take the resources of the Middle East, add them to the resources of South America, and feel that this is the means to deal with the U.S. debt overhanging. So I think that's what we're seeing primarily in his handoff of the issue to Europeans, because he knows the Europeans have neither the money nor the military forces to do this at all. And in fact, Europe is in deep trouble, as he well knows. I mean, he teased Macron, said, oh, I hear France is doing very well. Mr. Macron. President Macron in his bilateral meeting.
Starting point is 00:05:59 He knows very well that France is doing anything other than being well at the moment. They're practically in a state of revolution, France. Practically, yeah, very close. But listen to General Kellogg, who regrettably, regrettably gets to whisper into President Trump's ears. This is a terrifying answer that he gives about whether, whether Ukraine can conduct with Trump's permission long-range strikes into Russia.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Chris, cut number one. Are you saying, though, that it is the president's position that Ukraine can conduct long-range strikes into Russia, that that has been authorized by the president? I think reading what he has said and reading what Vice President Vance has said as well as Secretary Rubio, the answer is yes. Use the ability to Hedip. There are no such things as sanctuaries. That's one of the reasons I believe that this last week, and it has been confirmed, that President Zelensky asked President Trump to get Tom Hawk missiles, which give you a depth.
Starting point is 00:07:03 They're really good systems. America makes the best systems in the world. Are we giving him the Tomahawks? Well, that decision has not been made, but he's asked. I know that President Zelensky did, in fact, asked for them, which was confirmed by a social media post by Vice President Vance. That's going to be up to the president to do it. Well, the Kremlin, in your view, react if the Ukrainians use American know-how, American missiles, American intelligence to target those missiles deep inside Russia. Well, first of all, note that he didn't actually answer the question.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Right. His question was, did President Trump authorize this? And he slid away from that by saying, well, reading it, that seems to be what? happening and this is what. And I do know that Zelensky's asked for Tomahawk, but I don't know that Trump has agreed with. So in fact, I mean, he didn't, it was a very deceptive answer that he gave because he didn't answer the question, yes, Trump has agreed to strikes in the depth. He said, it seems this is how it is moving, which was, I think, very disliked. I don't know that that is, I don't think from what we saw and how he expressed his
Starting point is 00:08:28 truth social. As I say, Trump was facing in both directions. You know, oh yes, Ukraine is winning, it's going ahead. And at the same time, he said, I don't want to see escalation. That was in the context of the Security Council resolution that they were thinking about putting on the agenda for, if you like, demanding in the Security Council the capitulation of Russia. So I don't think that that necessarily has been decided yet. But I think what, as I say, what I think he's wanting is the last thing he wants, and this is what it's all about,
Starting point is 00:09:14 is he and the American, if you like, security apparatus does not want Russia in the Middle East if there's going to be an attack on Iran. You'll recall that from the very outset, you know, the great achievement of Wolfowitz was getting Russia out of the Middle East and therefore allowing America to dominate the whole of the Middle East and its resources. And what they don't want is for Russia or China perhaps to come in in support of Iran if Iran is attacked by either Israel or by both the U.S. and China. And Russia has said and China too, very tough language in a statement saying, as far as we're concerned, the snapback hasn't even occurred.
Starting point is 00:10:13 It was illegal, procedurally flawed. And as far as we're concerned, the JCPOA, therefore, has not been suspended. The sanctions are not in place. We do not accept that in any way at all. And furthermore, in our view, in fact, the JCPOA continues until the 18th of October. 18th of October is a sunset. of the JCPOA. That's the time it ends anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:44 It was always scheduled to end then, and all the things fall at that point on mid-October, which is why the European three have been racing to get the snapback. What do you mean all the things fall? The snapback returns or Iran returns to where it was before the JCPOA? Yeah, it returns to where it was before the JCPOA. In fact, the whole JCPA comes to its conclusion. By its own terms.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yes, that was originally set for it was in October. And such, any sanctions that remain, for example, on the supply of conventional weapons to Iran, all of those fall away, any of the remaining those elements. So Russia is taking a very strong line. And so I think that, you know, what depends, what's important to Trump and the White House at the moment, is that if there's going to be an attack on Iran, they wanted to happen while Russia is still busy fighting the war in Ukraine. Because if the war is over before the attack comes, then it's quite possible that Russia might be more. disposed to support, even if it's support only in terms of providing air defense weapons and
Starting point is 00:12:13 more equipment to Iran. But if the war is already concluded, Russia and China might be much more disposed ahead than if the war is still ongoing. So I think that's why Trump is keeping the thing going. And this whole thing is also tied into Venezuela because it's all about energy resources and then finally in the last resort it's all about um u.s debt and how to um if you like pay off and reduce the great otherwise um and i think this was larry um larry think the head of blackrock said together he said at the moment the only thing that is keeping things intact, is that, you know, the surging stock market is backstopping the bond market. And if the bond market starts to collapse, then America will be overwhelmed in his view
Starting point is 00:13:15 by its deficits. It will be just overwhelmed by its deficit. So, I mean, this is what I think we have to read what's happening with Russia, with Israel, with Gaza, and Venezuela, all within. this context of the broader picture of Trump struggling to try and sort out America's debt overhang. You have written that Netanyahu, who acknowledges as recently as Friday at the UN, that Israel is fighting seven wars, is about to open up an eighth front.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Is that eighth front against Iran, or is that eighth front against American public opinion, which is now decidedly anti-Netanyahu? The eighth front is inside the United States, and it is the front that is against, if you like, the podcasters, the influences that are on the Internet, because they've already bought. Israel is largely bought the mainstream media and has been controlling that through the Obama administration.
Starting point is 00:14:34 We all see that now, the details of how much they were controlling things through COVID and everything else. And now he's the eighth front, Israeli, the war that I think Max Blumenthal has been sort of outlining very clearly, the war against, People like Charlie Kirk and against others who are questioning why it is that it is Israel first and not America first and saying, you know, what is this takeover of America by Israel and these big Jewish oligarch billionaires who seem to wield huge influence and who've just bought TikTok in order because they don't like TikTok.
Starting point is 00:15:25 its algorithm doesn't seem to give enough support to Israel. So they're going to change the algorithm to make sure it changes its position. So that's the front. The front is to maintain control and to have influence over the young Americans, be they Republican or Democrats, but the young Americans, you would know this much more than me as an outsider, but young Americans are drifting away from very noticeably from the support from Israel, as is the rest of the world.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And this is an existential threat because if Israel loses America, it's an existential threat to its future. Is the Israeli government actually concerned about the effect of alternative media, such as the one you and I are on at this? very moment? Very concerned about it. Very concerned because these young, you know, these young MAGA people, the sort of Nick Fuentes and people like this, as Charlie Kirk, I mean, you know, they were still
Starting point is 00:16:39 quite, they're quite young, but quite clearly they're going to move into positions of power increasingly in the United States. And if they've lost the young, I mean, they are going to lose America. Not today, not tomorrow, but this is the eighth front. This is the big war that Israel and Netanyahu believe they cannot lose. They must keep the control on the, if you like, the Internet media system as well as the mainline system. So they're splashing out, buying up as much as they can, which I think Max Brumetal has outlined quite extensively how much they're buying up.
Starting point is 00:17:33 He's done a good job in reporting it. Can President Trump prevent the Israeli government from formally annexing the West Bank? He stated several times privately and publicly, it will not happen on his watch. I mean, the truth to this is it is happening and it's happening now, but it's happening peacemium. I mean, no, he cannot do it and is not doing it. Just in these last period, Israel has introduced new settlements around Jerusalem, famous, doesn't matter what they're called, but there's famous settlements, which effectively mean that the two parts of, if you like, the West Bank are divided and cannot join up, that there cannot be contiguity in any Palestinian state.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And this is going on all the time. The more settlements are being produced, are being instigated in the West Bank all the time. The changes are slowly taking place. It's an administrative. I mean, this is the point. It's not a sort of big military operation that come in and they just take it over and annex it. It is an administrative attrition of the Palestinian sphere that is taking place. A slow attrition of the Palestinian territory.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And that's ongoing. And, you know, Trump is not going to stop it. Of course not. It's underway and it will continue. And there'll be, you know, this is PR and this is, you know, good, good, good sort of image, imaging for Trump. But he can't stop it. The administrative process goes on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:33 So last week, Scott Ritter, Max Blumenthal and I, pardon me, were invited to lunch. with the president of Iran, his foreign minister was there and other officials. There was a very sophisticated and easy-to-use simultaneous translation system. There's no question in my mind after listening to him, and we were there, I got there a little late, but we were all there about an hour and a half for about an hour and a half this one on. There's no question in my mind, but that the Iranians expect the Israelis to attack, expect the United States to back it up and are prepared for it and are prepared to cause massive, even catastrophic, a massive and catastrophic response to Israel.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Does Netanyahu understand that? There are those in Israel who do understand it, but I think, you know, there is a tendency in Israel as there is in Europe and the West to believe their own propaganda. And the propaganda, you can read an article even today in Israel-Kayyam by the main sort of expert on the Iranian issue. And he's saying, a very clear warning. He's saying, look, we in Israel believe we won the 12-day war against the war. Iran. We won it. We delivered. We didn't achieve, you know, regime change. In fact, it showed that they were more united than we understood. The Iranians are far more resilient and united than we
Starting point is 00:21:29 understood. But he said, you know, here there is a feeling that, you know, this was a victory. And he said, but what they don't understand here in Israel is that Iran believes it was victorious in the war and that the attacks on Israel were attacks that they had never sustained before in which they're still reluctant to admit. They've only just admitted another part of the destruction that was resulting from that war just in recent days. 800 soldiers killed and other things. So I think the problem is this. It's again, you know, being presented in Washington, that this is, you know, not something, you know, this is easy that, you know, again, you know, Iran is a sort of house of cards, a paper tiger,
Starting point is 00:22:27 whereas Israel and America have got all of these great strengths and that it shouldn't be a problem. But he was warning and saying, you know, actually Iran is ready for war, more resolute, more cohesive than we've ever seen it. And so we perhaps might be misjudging this. Were you surprised or dismayed at all at Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech before the UN?
Starting point is 00:22:59 He expressed no empathy, no understanding, no remorse, no regret for the slaughter of innocence, but boasted and bragged about Israel's ability to get the job done. He used that phrase three or four times. And, of course, he spoke to a largely empty chamber. Yes, because this is the big cell. This is the key cell that he's going to, that he's going to, that he's going to produce here. Yeah, we're all talking about Gaza and about a 21-point plan that supposedly is going to resolve things. But I believe there's quite a lot of evidence to support it,
Starting point is 00:23:45 that the main topic that he wants to discuss, not necessarily all the time with Trump, because Trump doesn't do details, but what he wants to discuss is the coordination for a war on Iran. That's what he's coming. And so, yes, he's saying the job needs to be finished. This is his message. You know, we've destroyed Syria. We destroyed Hezbollah. We're destroying Hamas. We're damaging the Yemenis. But, you know, the last pick, the head of the snake, as he would put it, is Iran. And we've got to take out Iran. And he's speaking to, you know, an audience in the White House that understands the importance of energy and oil and gas and what that would do if China lost its energy security, how that would weaken China and how it would also damage
Starting point is 00:24:46 Russia because China would be weakened if it lost Iranian and Middle Eastern oil altogether because it still China takes a lot from Saudi Arabia as well as from Iran. Iran. So if all of that fell under, if you like, American hegemonic control coupled with South America as oil and gas, then America would be, in the view of the White House, in a commanding, dominating position over the economic levers of the globe. And that can help resolve the question of its financial of the dollar and as the um if you like the the the dollar hegemony for the next period uh nazarala the uh long time a leader of the hesbalah in lebanon was murdered a year ago just about a year what has hezbollah been up to in that year um uh well two things one is they've gone
Starting point is 00:25:56 black, no communications, no statements. They've gone absolutely off the scene. The only people who make a statement is Sheikh Niam Karsen, the head of the Secretary General. But it's formalized. He's not a military person. He's a political person. They've gone absolutely dark and they've been rebuilding and retraining and repreparing for the next. part of this war because all in all of the resistance but particularly Hezbollah expect that because the so-called ceasefire is being breached all the time by Israel. There were strikes even in these last days in Lebanon. Israel is striking Lebanon at will where it wants as it wants. And so far because of the domestic political situation, because they've got Barak there, the envoy of
Starting point is 00:27:01 Trump, saying, you know, you've got to disarm Hezbollah, you've got to disarm Hezbollah. It's not going to happen, and Hezbollah will not accept to be disarmed. And so the consequence of that, of course, is that Israel is talking and I think probably seriously planning an invasion of South Lebanon. up to the Littani River to take out the remains, well, the bulk of Hezbollah's weapons, because the big weaponry hasn't been touched so far. They still have it. The big weapons that can strike Tel Aviv and so on are still in their tunnels and their bunkers. South or north of the Littani, I don't know where, of course, but Israel says it wants to destroy that.
Starting point is 00:27:53 question is, can Israel really do all these things? Because it's very stretched. The reservists are not turning up. Even the chief of defense staff is complaining and pushing back against the fighting in Gaza and saying he doesn't have enough troops. He doesn't have enough men to be able to really take the whole of Gaza. And he's suffering losses. They're losing men there. And the reservists are in short supply. Many of them are not turning up and for a call-up.
Starting point is 00:28:39 So they say they're about 12,000 men short as things stand. So they want to go back into Lebanon and fight his Bola again? You know, that seems to me, you know, spell bad overextension. And, you know, you can't do everything with such a small force. Alistair, thank you very much, my dear friend. As usual, we want to cross the board from Venezuela to Gaza with a stop in Ukraine. Thank you for all of your answers and all of your analysis. We'll look forward to seeing you again next week.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Thank you very much, Judge. Thank you. Pleasure out here, as always, of course. Bye-bye. A slight change in our usual Monday schedule because of a traveling. Larry Johnson at 1130. Ray McGovern at 1 this afternoon. Scott Ritter at 2.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Max Blumenthal at 3 and at 4 o'clock, Professor Jeffrey Sachs. Judge Napolitano for judging freedom. Thank you.

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