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. Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
Today is Monday, June 23rd, 2025.
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on the nuclear facilities in Iran.
In March, Tulsi Gabbard, President Trump's director
of national intelligence famously or infamously
from his point of view stated under oath
that it was the consensus of the intelligence community that Iran did not have a nuclear weapon and hasn't been working on producing a nuclear weapon
since the Ayatollah prohibited it in 2002 or 2003. He then publicly rebuked her and said I disagree. Do we know what he was basing his so-called disagreement on?
Was it just something whispered to him on the phone by Prime Minister Netanyahu or is there
some entity out there providing Trump and Netanyahu with intelligence at odds with the
professional intelligence community? Well it's the latter. It was staged and it was managed and organized.
The IAEA have been using this artificial intelligence program
called Mosaic, which is a program that belongs to Palantir and was originally thought up and conceived
in terms for targeting the intent for counter-terrorist and terrorist organizations.
So it was used, if you like, it was used in Iraq and Afghanistan more significantly. A type of the Palantir, the Palantir have close
connections with Israel and with Israeli intelligence and also it was very similar to the thing that we
all know called Lavender which was about targeting Palestinians who might have connections with Hamas.
Palestinians who might have connections with Hamas. And the point was that they were collecting huge amounts of data for IEA, all sorts of data,
social platform usage, movements, people's data, 400 million elements of data about people and events,
and using that to plot not facts,
but actually the supposition of intent.
They projected supposition of intent on all of this.
And suddenly, so this is what happened,
suddenly we had out of nowhere,
everyone was asking, you know, what's happened? Two weeks ago suddenly we had out of nowhere, everyone was asking,
you know, what's happened?
Two weeks ago, we had nothing and suddenly this week we're going to war with Iran.
And what had happened was the Mosaic program has suggested there was a sudden buildup of,
if you like, enriched material at Fordow and from another base called Turgerserba, and they
implied the program implied intent to it. And you know, these AI programs are very much
at the whim of who constructs the algorithm. I remember in Iraq that the programs there
were being used to target and kill people according to the type of beard they had.
Did they have a Salafist beard or did they have a Muslim Brotherhood beard?
Depending on what you had and what your movements were and who you talked to on the telephone,
then you might be assassinated for it. So they were using this and it came to the idea that,
then you might be assassinated for it. So they were using this and it came to the idea that,
yes, Iran is moving very close to weapons.
It's suddenly accelerating.
Now the IEA, Mr. Grossi has walked that back
and said there was no evidence,
but they presented it particularly on the 6th of June,
and then on the 12th,
the day before the Israeli attack on Iran.
They presented this as evidence that Iran was moving speedily towards having enough
enriched uranium for a bomb, five bombs.
And this was made into the report and it was built up and launched in great fanfare
with the support of the Europeans and the board as a dramatic document. And everyone has attacked it.
I mean, Iran has said this was totally fraudulent and Russia have said it was totally fraudulent. It was not based. You can't base these things on, you know,
AI's presumption of intent.
You actually have to have evidence.
And Grossi was forced to say,
well, there wasn't any evidence.
And really, you know, I would say that in many ways,
Trump was suckered by this because of course,
what was happening, the IEA, Mr.
Grossi, it seems according to Iranian reports was providing this evidence
from Moshe to the Israelis and the Israelis were having input into all of
this so that they could create the image, if you like, an AI image of Iran speeding towards bringing unverified amounts of uranium ready
for enrichment and give the pretext for war.
And I think Mr. Trump fell for this and he also fell for the other narrative coming out of Israel at the time, that Iran could collapse, that the shock and awe of their attack
on the 13th of June, Friday the 13th, would collapse, the state would seize up,
the decapitation of the senior military, all of this would bring about such a shock that there would be paralysis and it would be possible
through the sabotage elements that they'd already introduced into Iran and by the drone attacks and
the bombing attacks that they could create, if you like, something of a color revolution. And so in Israel and in the White House,
it seemed to be the real expectation
that with the Israeli attack,
actually Iran could collapse and it would be like Syria.
The shop was open and you could just walk in
because the whole thing stopped working,
which it did do in Syria.
What grave miscalculations, Al-Sterif, they really thought that attacking these
nuclear facilities would result in the people uprising against their own government.
It's had the opposite effect, hasn't it?
It's had exactly the opposite effect.
There's a huge rallying around the government by the Iranian people.
Not unexpectedly, but of course, you know, political differences are forgotten
and people have come together in support of the government.
They are very much in support of the government. They are very much in support of the government.
But this narrative, which is preached in Washington, as ardently in Israel, is,
oh, no, you know, they're on the verge of collapse in Iran.
The people hate the regime.
They're ready to rise up against it.
And that just one little knock, decapitation of the regime, they're ready to rise up against it, and that just one little knock, decapitation
of the leadership, if we could knock out the Supreme Leader, then the whole thing would
collapse and we could install the Shah's son as a new leader and have a pro-Western government
there as we did in the Shah's time.
I mean, it's fantasy, but they believed it.
And that's what's been fed to Trump on two things.
And it seems he's so limited, whom he listens to at the moment.
I mean, I'm not in Washington.
I don't know these things, but I'm told that Susie Wiles
has sort of cut out everyone but Kurila.
Michael Kurila, the commander of CENTCOM, who spends most of his time in Israel, as
far as I can see, that him and Ratcliffe, the head of CIA, and others have kept away,
including Tulsi Gabbard.
But Gabbard's assessment of Iran was based on solid evidence.
No, we can't just take an inference
that there might be an intent.
We have to know that something as strategic
has changed to make that judgment.
Well, this isn't what happened.
So they've gone into a war on the basis of false pretenses.
I mean, there are shades of Colin Powell coming in with his tube
and saying, this is it.
Yes, Iran, just weeks away from a weapon, weeks away.
We have to do something now to destroy it.
And unfortunately, parts of Washington
seem to have absorbed this and fallen for it.
But it's as a serious crisis as it was with the Iraq war.
Were the US attacks on Saturday evening and Sunday morning of any military significance?
I mean, Ritter has said that his sources have told him that the nuclear
material was moved out and the entrances to these facilities were blocked up with such
an enormous amount of material that the bombs could do only minimal damage.
No, that's right. That's right. And it looks, you know, this is, we have to piece it together.
But I strongly suspect that this was Trump doing the same exercise that he did in Yemen.
In other words, he sent messages to the Iranians.
Look, we are going to attack on these targets.
look, we are going to attack on these targets. But if you don't respond, if you don't respond,
then it'll be a once and done. And there won't be any more attacks. And so you just have to be quiet. And that would explain a lot of things. One was that, you know, the attacks were not particularly intense. It's not even
certain that they were using those, if you like, GBU 57 ordnance, certainly in Fado, and in other
cases it seems to have been they were using Tomahawks from three submarines off the Gulf. But they have not done damage except superficial damage.
All the experts and people like Will Shriver and others
who follow this precisely all accept that, in fact,
the program is pretty well intact. superficial damage at the surface, but not down in the
deep, deep holes of where the centrifuges are.
So it's largely intact.
And I think what was being thought of at this time was it was being planned that this could
be the beginning of a sort of ceasefire in the mind of the White House, that it was being planned that this could be the beginning of a sort of ceasefire in the mind
of the White House, that it was going to be possible then to say to Iran, okay, we've
done it, we've done this once and done, now you stop attacking Israel.
And it seems that Israel, there are some reports, I can't guarantee their authenticity,
but there are some reports in the Israeli press saying that Israel was saying they wanted
an end to this war by the end of this week, because they're suffering enormously. They're
running out of their air defence missiles, and they're suffering considerable damage at the same time.
I don't know if it's true, but it's very plausible that this was the idea and the idea that it would
go back and there would be a ceasefire, except, you know, actually that whole idea of a ceasefire
has become toxic because of what happened in Ukraine. Everyone understands that ceasefires now
spell out attritional trap, attritional cage.
They put people in this and then Israel
will go on attacking Iran and say,
oh, well, we must have the right to attack whenever we want.
So we'll have a ceasefire, but we'll go on attacking.
This is exactly what's happening
in Lebanon with Hezbollah that Israel assumes the right to attack whenever it chooses in every way
whenever it chooses and it's called a ceasefire monitored by the United States and so it's not
going to work like that a ceasefire of that. And I think already today we've seen major damage
inflicted by, I think there have been two if not three major waves of missile attack on Israel this
morning, attacking the power plants, attacking other sites in Israel. And Israel has been attacking also certain sites in Tehran and beyond.
So, I mean, the next step to this is clear. It is going to escalate. And there's been no attack. I don't think there's any Iranian plan at this stage
to attack our American bases,
but I just point out that the foreign minister,
Arahi, is in Moscow and meeting with Putin,
meeting directly with Putin.
And I think you should interpret this
as meaning that he is coming as the representative
of the Supreme Leader, not of the government of Pesachkian. He coming as Qasem Soleimani was sent
to talk to Putin at the time that the Iranians feared that Syria might fall and to ask for
assistance. I think they have come to talk about what next,
how to take this forward, and what help might be available.
I don't think the help is going to come directly so much from Russia
because Russia needs its own air defence systems for its conflict in Ukraine.
But it's quite likely it might come from China or North Korea.
Don't forget it was North Korea who helped build some of those centrifuge
halls in the first place. Give the expertise. What did all the work?
What was the reaction in Beijing, Moscow, North Korea, Pakistan to these attacks on Saturday night?
Well, and this is just my suspicion.
I think that Russia and China and Iran and the three of them are coordinating very closely.
I think when it was learned or perhaps they passed the message that indeed America was about to attack
these three basis nuclear enrichment sites in Iran, that when that was passed, I think the message probably came from Russia to say, let them do it.
And you know, I mean, it was quite extraordinary because there were no air
defenses, nothing, no aircraft, nothing moved as the Americans did this attack,
which suggests very much that it was, you know, this was pre-orchestrated with Iran,
probably with Russia, because they said,
listen, you do this, you have absolute legitimacy.
It will be the United States attacking unprovokedly,
illegally against the United Nations Charter.
You will have complete legitimacy and support from
the global south and all your allies in whatever you do next.
And I think that's what has happened now.
The supreme leader has sent Rahi to Putin to coordinate the next steps.
What will they be?
Well, they've already started with further attacks in Israel,
and I think those may continue. Maybe it will be something to do with the homo straits, the homo
straits. Now, there's talk and there's a lot of noise out there that, you know, they may shut the
homo straits. I don't think that's necessary. I think we've learned a little bit from what happens
with the Yemenis, with the Houthis, and the Red Sea.
You don't actually need to block it.
You don't need to mine the straits of Hormuz
or to sink ships in it so it becomes impenetrable.
What you need to do, as you say,
we'll only allow certain traffic to pass
Hormuz, we will slow the rate of traffic passing through Hormuz and we will provide literally to
my son, but not others. You only have to do that and the insurance companies in London and elsewhere
will do the rest. They'll say, oh, no, thank you.
No ships in Hormuz.
Too big a risk for us.
And we will see a big restriction of traffic through the Hormuz.
So I think that's the sort of thing they're probably discussing with Putin,
you know, at this time in the next day or so, you know, when it will it move the war moved to, if you like,
bases in the Middle East, or will it be more financial war through, if you like, restricting
or containing the passage through whole moves, which will have an immediate effect on inflation
in America, an immediate effect on interest rates, pushing them up further.
And that will have really, certainly will have a big impact
on Europe as well as on the United States.
Is there any basis whatsoever for Secretary Hegseth's
characterization of the attacks on Saturday night
as brilliant or President Trump's conclusion that they quote,
totally obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities?
Well, I have to confess, you know, I often wonder,
why does he use such exaggerated language?
Right, that's my point.
Who believes that?
I mean, nobody believes them anymore when they say these things.
There's no truth in that at all.
And there's no truth in the story that there are no air defenses in Iran
and the sky is there open.
Iran is defenseless and sitting there ready to be attacked.
In fact, what we see is in those days leading up to America's attack,
there were no Israeli aircraft over Iran. There's not a single video. I mean, that's
the only, the real thing, you know, substantive thing we can go on. What we do see is there are sort of rocket parts and there are booster rockets
littering parts of Syria and Iraq, suggesting that what Israel has been
doing is using their airplanes for standoff attacks into Iran, coupled with
drones that are being launched internally in Iran Iran have been brought in by the MEK or whatever,
part of the sort of Mossad plan for the collapse of Iran
and the end of the regime would all just implode.
And some of those are being used internally.
Some of them are being sent from the Israeli base in Azerbaijan
through north from the north and from into the east from the Caspian area and that's very
obviously what's happening. So you see these explosions taking place in in Tehran. Some of
them actually are just bomb attacks planted and raised by, if you like, these
cells that Mossad have placed inside.
Some of them may be drones that have launched nearby and been sent in.
This is part of this new war.
I've been saying for some time, you know, the whole of the West has moved to this new
war, which is so worrying for Russia and China and everyone, because this
is obviously a plan. It's the same plan as the spiders we saw in Russia. Decapitation, assassinations,
insertion, infiltration of small groups, taking in exactly the same in Iran. We have these trucks going in there full of drones,
which they can be remote launched and fired
at Iranian air defenses or sites,
giving the impression of something, you know,
that chaos is coming, that everything is gone.
Couple that with cyber attacks and with information war.
I mean, what we saw in Russia. But the point is, it's so serious for Russia because it's
still configured for conventional warfare, the warfare that's been going on in Ukraine.
What are we going to do now? We've got to check for all these containers that are coming in, in case they're full of drones,
or we're going to have to look for electronic warfare
mechanisms inserted into the country.
This whole idea of sort of turning it
into a terrorist type war of this sort
means that all the states are going
to have to reconfigure their security in a new way.
And it's quite clear the five eyes have coordinated on this.
We've seen this.
We've seen it with Iran.
We saw this in Russia.
We're seeing it take place in the Baltic area at the moment,
preparations for a conflict.
This is going to be very serious.
That's why I think Mr. Putin is so emphatic
and the dangers of what's happening.
People may think he's exaggerating, he's not.
But when you start talking decapitation strikes,
when you start talking about unconventional weapons,
even tactical nuclear weapons being used
against the Iranian targets.
Well, what about decapitation in Moscow
with a tactical weapon?
And all the rest of the paraphernalia of drones
of insertions, if you like,
insurgents into the area to cause social chaos in the country.
I mean, it's a very clear and worrying new development that the West,
having lost the conventional war, is now turning to this sort of extreme type of
asymmetrical warfare.
Alistair, thank you very much, my dear friend.
As usual, an extraordinary analysis,
deeply appreciated and widely, widely viewed.
You have a huge audience and it will only grow
once we post this, which will happen immediately.
Thank you, my dear friend.
We'll see you again next week.
Always a pleasure, judge.
My pleasure. Thank you.
And coming up later today at 10 this morning, Ray McGovern at 11.30 this morning, Larry Johnson at 4 this afternoon, Scott Ritter at 4.30 from Moscow, Pepe Escobar, Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. MUSIC