Judging Freedom - Col. Karen Kwiatkowski : Biden Justifies Attacks on Russia
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Thank you. Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Tuesday, June 11th,
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Karen, Colonel Kwiatkowski, welcome to the show, as always, my dear friend. So a lot
going on in Israel and in Ukraine. But what I want to start discussing with you is the decision of President Biden
to authorize the Ukrainians to use American military equipment to strike inside of Russia.
That's about four days ago, since you were on last. Then I'm going to ask you about what was
announced this morning, which is that this self-professed troop of Ukrainian soldiers who are Nazis, literal Nazis, have been given
permission to receive and use American military equipment. We'll start with the attacks inside
of Russia. How dangerous is this to American national security?
Well, it's very dangerous, if we can take Putin at his word, because attacks deep into Russian territory by these American and European weapons, NATO weapons, he's already said that he will fight back against that.
He will go to the source.
He will, if there's airplanes, fighter jets on the ground that have done this, he will take them out on the ground where they sit, which could be in NATO countries.
And, of course, that could cause the Article 5 discussion.
And nobody wants that in Europe, of course, and the U.S. is not prepared to defend NATO in any way, shape or form or take on Russia. But by doing this, they are sleepwalking into a direct confrontation,
a direct war with Russia. A war Russia is prepared to fight, but one that we are not prepared to
fight. We know that there are huge bases, American bases or American leased bases in Poland and Romania, where a lot of the equipment that comes over from the U.S. lands is assembled, put together, armed, and the Ukrainian folks are taught how to use it.
That's fair game for Russia, is it not, to shoot at this equipment, even if it is being maintained by
Americans in a NATO country? Yeah, it is. It is fair game for them. When you look at the geography
of where Russia's capital city is, where some of its major bases are, and it's nothing wrong with
having your major bases along your borders. I mean, look at Tampa, look at Texas, look at California. This
is what a nation does. You put many of your major defensive bases on your border. Well,
when Russia does that, that puts them right there within range of the medium range type missiles and
capability that we have willingly provided to not just NATO and said they can do it, but of course, Ukraine,
which we can't trust in any case to do what we tell it. I mean, if they have those weapons,
they'll launch them wherever they want to or wherever they can get away with launching them.
So, you know, these Russian targets aren't just targets. OK, this is an attack on Russia
by NATO. OK, you can't get around it.
And you can say, well, that's what Putin thinks. Okay, fine. That is what Putin thinks. It's also
what the rest of the world understands very much, except for Washington, unless Washington does
understand this and really is seeking some sort of massive global war or some sort of situation where they don't
have to put Biden up against Trump in November, that we won't have to, you know, we have something
so massive happening to our country that we won't have this election. Meaning Putin will attack the United States and we will be at war,
and under such stress they'll put the election off,
or Biden's dream will come true,
which is that the American people will forget about his horrific stewardship
of the executive branch and rally around him
because American troops are in harm's way. Are American troops in harm's way
already, Karen? Well, I think to some extent they are. Those that are in Ukraine helping,
working, advising, guiding, whatever it is that they're doing in Ukraine. And there clearly are
Americans there at the behest of the U.S. government to assist the Ukrainians. Anybody in Ukraine is a fair target.
I mean, this war, instead of ending, as it should have with negotiations, is a full-blown
war that will, if nothing changes, will end with the end of Ukraine. So anybody in Ukraine,
obviously, yes, that includes Americans and other NATO soldiers.
But those bases that we have, those NATO bases where we have Americans at almost all the NATO bases, well, yeah, they're targets.
And it's hard to say how Americans would respond to being attacked like that, because so many
Americans, while they sense and they feel that this war, this aid to Ukraine and this effort is very wrong, they don't support it,
it's not popular in the United States, very often those attitudes shift very rapidly
into some sort of, I call it pseudo-patriotism when we are attacked. And again, this could be the gamble that Biden is thinking will pay off
for him. I don't really see how, given how low his popularity is already and his incapability.
He was on display just recently in France, and I think the whole world was laughing. It was sad to watch him, especially when my friends at Fox and Newsmax ran Reagan
in the very same spot 40 years ago. I mean, the comparison is stark, to say the least.
Here's Jake Sullivan, the president's national security advisor in France, looks like he's on a rooftop in Paris with the Eiffel Tower in the background,
defending the use of allowing the Ukrainians to fire across the Russian border, calling it common sense.
From the president's perspective, this was common sense.
What was happening up around Kharkiv, which was new just in the last couple of months,
was a Russian offensive where they were moving from one side of the border directly to the
other side of the border.
And it simply didn't make sense not to allow the Ukrainians to fire across that border
to hit Russian guns and emplacements that were firing at the Ukrainians. So the president
authorized that. The Ukrainians have carried out that authorization on the battlefield.
And one thing I will point out is that the momentum of that operation in Kharkiv has stalled
out. Now, Kharkiv is still under threat, but the Russians have not been able to make material
progress on the ground in recent days in that area. And the United
States will continue to support Ukraine in holding the line and pushing back against the aggressing
Russian forces. The last thing he said, Colonel McGregor says that that is nonsense, that the
Russians haven't even been delayed, much less stopped. But what kind of common sense is he
talking about? How about the common sense that if you attack Russia, they're going to shoot back?
Yeah.
You know, I think Jake wishes, well, I don't know what he's really thinking, but he would
like to portray the war as a simple conflict between neighboring states.
And in such a conflict, Ukraine would be in charge of its own
defense and its own offense, and it would do what it could, and this war would have been over
six months ago. But this is not the war that he's talking about, because that war doesn't exist.
The war is between the United States and NATO and Russia. Ukraine is the location.
Ukraine is the proxy.
So when Ukraine does something like Jake would recommend, oh, of course, naturally in these
close quarters, the Ukrainians should fire at Russia.
When they do that with NATO weapons, with U.S. weapons, with U.S. authorization, with
U.S. funding, with U.S. advice on the ground, with US intelligence. When they do that, with all of that Western support,
it's very clear that this is a war
against Russia by the West, okay?
And it's a proxy war, of course,
but those proxy wars can generate into larger things.
Ukraine is just the location.
And what Jake is advocating is that we expand that location
of the fighting. That's not wise, particularly given that Ukraine has lost this battle and
really needs to negotiate before it loses everything. Recently, the Ukrainians have used American weaponry to destroy Russian radar and Russian early warning systems.
I mean, all that does is irritate and terrify the Kremlin.
That is not a military objective of Ukraine, is it?
No, but it very well speaks to a possible
military objective of the United States or NATO. And this is the real problem. You know,
Washington, D.C., Jake Sullivan, Biden, you know, they act like, oh, this is just a little country
defending itself and we're just helping. We're giving moral support, a little bit of this,
a little bit of that. That's not the case. So when you have two major powers, two nuclear powers, let's just say the US and NATO on one
side, nuclear armed, Russia on the other side, nuclear armed, and the little proxy that we're
fighting over fires into their early warning, their nuclear early warning system. How would any normal, rational person interpret that? That is preparation for
what? A surprise attack, a surprise nuclear attack against Russia from the West. We're
certainly capable of doing that. We're certainly fighting a war with Russia. So when you take out
their eyes for their warning on a ballistic missile attack that could carry nukes, what do we expect Russia to do?
I mean, that is beyond taunting.
Okay.
That is actually idiocy.
And given that we don't know who's running our country right now in the United States, we have to be really concerned about this um after you on the show at four o'clock eastern is senator tommy
uh tuberville of uh alabama who uh opposed the uh aid to uh ukraine that big package that they voted
on uh last month it was a to ukraine israel uh and and Taiwan. He was attacked for doing so by his
Republican colleague, Lindsey Graham. I'm going to run this clip because I think it will raise
your blood pressure about the nonsense from Senator Graham. Chris, cut number seven.
Your Republican colleague, Senator Tommy Tuberville, just this past week said on Steve Bannon's show that
Vladimir Zelensky is a dictator and unconstitutional.
And he said this about Vladimir Putin.
He doesn't want Ukraine. He doesn't want Europe.
He's got enough land of his own.
He just wants to make sure that he does not have United States weapons in Ukraine pointing at Moscow.
Those echo some Russian talking points, Senator.
I wonder if those remarks from your fellow senator represent the GOP.
No, it represents him and him alone.
If you spend 15 minutes studying Putin and what he wants,
he wants to recreate the Russian empire. He's not going to stop in Ukraine. We celebrated the
80th anniversary of D-Day. It was a failure. It was the unnecessary war described by Winston
Churchill. We had a dozen chances to stop Hitler. It's not about NATO. It's not about
American weapons in Ukraine. It's about a megalomaniac wanting to create the Russian
empire by force of arms. If you don't stop him, there goes Taiwan. So we've been slow as hell
of helping Ukraine. But Senator Tuberville's analysis really misses what Putin's all about. He's an outlier,
I think, in the Republican Party. I like him personally.
Never met a war he didn't want somebody else to fight.
That's right. That's right. I think he's right that it doesn't represent the Republican Party because the Republican Party is owned by people like Lindsey Graham, who, you know, owe their success and their finances to the military industrial complex and are very poorly educated.
You know, I think it's funny that he would say if you spent 15 minutes studying Putin, you would know this. In fact, if you spent 15 minutes studying Putin, you would
know completely the opposite. This is very strange that he would have this attitude, which means
this war is about something totally not related to anything that he says. In fact, I think he's
the one that said, blurted out, we need the resources. Why should we let Russia have,
you know, several trillion dollars worth of mineral resources in Ukraine?
You know, we should have those resources.
Well, why don't you speak the truth, Senator?
He is a Victoria Nuland acolyte who wants to use Ukraine as a battering ram with which to drive Vladimir Putin from office.
Putin has said a hundred times he doesn't want to own Ukraine.
He has no interest in expanding
the size of Russia. He just doesn't want NATO missiles a couple of miles from his border,
just like we wouldn't want Chinese or Russian missiles in Mexico aimed at Dallas.
Here's Admiral Kirby, which is even more ludicrous than what we just heard from Senator Graham
making similar arguments. Cut number 13. I do think it's important to remember they haven't
made much progress for all the effort and the ballyhooing about what they were doing
or trying to do at Kharkiv. They basically stalled out once they hit the first line of
Ukrainian defenses. That was kind of it. And now they're reassessing, we think, about what they might do next. So they still can be within range of Kharkiv.
I don't want to diminish that. That's why we're giving the Ukrainians permission to
strike across border at imminent threats. But they have largely stalled out. And Mr.
Putin has achieved none of his strategic objectives.
I think we're giving permission to Ukraine. Well, that implies a master-slave relationship.
So yeah, I think he spoke the truth there. But yeah, these folks, clearly the lobotomy was
overdone when Admiral Kirby was promoted. None of what they are saying makes sense in any historical or strategic context. If they cared
about this country, if they cared about America, forget about if they cared about American democracy
or democracy around the world, because, you know, if we cared about democracy around the world,
we wouldn't be supporting Zelensky now, since he has not even set a date for elections and let
the election date. He's an expired president.
He's basically a dictator with about 25% popularity in his country
that he has decimated with his policies, and so he won't hold elections.
That's not democratic.
So, you know, these guys are just full of themselves.
I think most people get this, too.
I don't think anybody believes anything that
Admiral Kirby says anymore. Last night, Secretary Blinken stated that the president has given
permission for these extreme groups in the Ukraine military, the self-professed Nazis with swastikas tattooed on their bodies to use American military
equipment. I mean, why do something like that, knowing how antagonistic this is to Russian
memory, Russian culture, and the Russian military? And it's also not very woke of them either.
I'm very surprised that we would not.
I forgot.
I forgot we have a woke Department of Defense and they're employing Nazis.
Yes, exactly.
Why aren't the anti-Nazi brigades in this country, which is all of us, frankly, why
isn't that an issue here?
The Leahy Amendment that they are in violation of, you know, and apparently the State
Department is a bunch of talking puppets, and they say, okay, this doesn't violate the Leahy
Amendment. But it does. It clearly is. It's precisely why the Leahy Amendment was put
together. We don't aid dictators who are anti-democratic, and we don't aid groups that
are like Nazis. And these aren't like Nazis in Ukraine. They are Nazis,
evolutionarily traced back to even the Ukrainian Nazis of World War II. So,
oh, by the way, remember they did fight with Hitler, contrary to what the Canadian parliament
believes. So it is absolutely insane. There is no, Congress must not be in control of anything.
I mean, the Leahy Amendment was their amendment. Right.
Put together precisely to prevent something like this. And yet now it's like, oh, no, no problem.
President can do whatever he wants to. And he he can't even the president.
He's not capable of a cogent statement. He can't move around from place to place.
Half the time he doesn't know where he is. So who's really making all these decisions and why are they doing it? Because
it is concerning. You know, we are walking into, sleepwalking, I think, into potentially a terrible
conflict, which could, hopefully not on purpose, but possibly by accident, result in a nuclear accident.
I'll call it an accident because these clowns are not capable of strategically designing anything,
but they certainly are capable of creating conditions for a nuclear accident.
Last subject matter, your colleague and friend Colonel Larry Wilkerson has said,
don't be surprised if offensive missiles show up, Russian missiles show up in Cuba,
just to give the United States a taste of its own medicine.
There would be nothing illegal about Putin doing that, right?
We wouldn't be able to legally stop him on the high seas.
No, no, it's a demonstration perhaps of, I think, Putin doesn't want the war to expand,
and he doesn't really want the war.
In fact, he's been criticized domestically for not ending it,
not completing the Ukrainian problem and not ending it.
But, you know, I think he wants to help Americans and American politicians understand what he is
saying because they don't listen.
They don't seem to be able to understand it.
And our country is making mistakes.
We're making a lot of mistakes.
Washington is making these mistakes.
And the problem is we're all going to pay for
them. It's not like they're making mistakes and they'll figure it out and make a new course.
That's not it. They're making the kinds of mistakes that you can't back out of that destroy
the whole country in so many ways. And it's funny that we would try to threaten war when we can't even
build a mobile pier that works. You know, we can't even advise our allies what to do. They
ignore us. So we are not in any position to go up against a nuclear enemy. We're not in a position
to go up against a conventional enemy. So we shouldn't be behaving
like we are. Here's the man who controls more nuclear weapons than Joe Biden does. Cut number
three. The use of nuclear weapons is possible in the event of an exceptional threat to the
sovereignty and territorial integrity of our country in exceptional cases. I don't think this
is such a case right now. There is no necessity for that. I don't think you'd hear that kind of
wisdom from the president. Your thoughts? Not at all. In fact, he is when he when he is speaking,
he very often possibly when he's drugged up, I don't know, but very often he becomes overly aggressive in his language.
And it's very concerning. Again, I don't know who's making the decisions in Washington, but the president is not helping anything.
Biden is very aggressive. He's very out of touch with reality.
He doesn't understand very much about what is going on around him. And it's really,
it's very concerning. As an American, I mean, I thought we had a, isn't there an amendment,
like the 25th amendment or something? I mean, we need to save our country here. That requires the vice president and a majority of the Congress.
You know what?
I'm going to give you a majority of the cabinet.
I'm going to give you a little treat.
This is President Biden at his loudest in Normandy the other day.
Cut number 14.
And make no mistake, the autocrats of the world are watching closely
to see what happens in Ukraine,
to see if we let this illegal aggression go unchecked.
We cannot let that happen.
To surrender to bullies, to bow down to dictators,
is simply unthinkable.
Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I thought he was talking about us.
I thought he was talking about us. I mean, I didn't really think he was talking about us,
but it would make a lot more sense. Lieutenant Colonel Kwiatkowski, it was a pleasure,
my dear friend. Thank you for accommodating my schedule. I hope you can be back with us again next week.
Absolutely. Thank you, Judge. Of course. You're welcome. At 4 o'clock today, Alabama Senator and former Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville. At 4.30 today, the inimitable
Scott Ritter. And at 5.15 today, Matt Ho, Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. Thank you.