Judging Freedom - COL. Lawrence Wilkerson : Netanyahu Still Killing.

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

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Today is Thursday, October 30th, 2020. Colonel Lawrence Wilkinson joins us now. Colonel Wilkinson is sometimes known. around here as Uncle Larry or Uncle Colonel, but he is my dear, dear, dear, three dears friend. Welcome here. I've just reached a new height. We're teasing each other because if you know Lawrence Wilkerson, he is a lovable person and other podcast hosts have said this about him.

But to be serious, Colonel Lawrence, and before we get to Netanyahu and the resumption of killing, I'm concerned about some of the language coming out of Washington, D.C. Does Venezuela oppose the remotest threat to the national security of the United States? They do not. Categorically, they do not. How and why would a president of the United States and his secretary, of state you got to mention him in this connection concoct a story that the president of venezuela and his government are worthy of killing being killed by the united states well clearly putting a 50 million i think it is dollar bounty on him is an invitation to do that um and i can't think of

any rational reason for doing it i can think of all the reasons i would now posit with Donald Trump, especially after hearing his announcement about nuclear weapons post-Chinese post-visit to China. Isn't it a dangerous, reckless, and almost unprecedented for us to be testing nuclear weapons, something we haven't done since Bill Clinton was in the White House? Well, when I say we, Powell wanted a positive move for Bush's diplomacy when we first came into the administration. And I have to think that, though he didn't tell me this,

he had actually discussed it with the president during the period of transition, short period that we had, he wanted to dust off law of the sea first. You know, we hadn't ratified a treaty in ages. He wanted to dust off law of the sea because most everyone except Exxon Mobil agreed that it was a good treaty,

and we were adhering to it, and the CTBT, and put them before the Senate for ratification because we had lived by that one too and it was good to put it into force. Dick Cheney, when it got to his door, that was in. No way were we going to ratify any treaty,

certainly not those two. So it's kind of incomprehensible when you think about it because it was a momentum building for a long time and even Ronald Reagan agreed to it. I'd say even Ronald Reagan at the period of his administration, that he agreed to it. It was quite remarkable. And we were looking at China and others who have not ratified either because they were taking their lead from us, of course. So they haven't ratified. And then the group of 45, which is a codicel to the treaty, 44, I'm sorry, the annexed countries. That's anybody with any kind of nuclear material whatsoever, you know, civilian or otherwise. They had to all approve. So it was an elaborate process, but it was fairly much.

much with great momentum to be approved across the globe because most people knew how serious this was, if not all people. Well, what are these tests consistent? Do they explode a nuclear bomb in the Utah desert? Well, the real purpose of the thing, I'm speaking out of turn here because I wasn't privy to the inside conversations, but I was privy to people who talked about it afterwards. The real bugaboo that we wanted to stop was atmospheric testing because we had information then

and we have corroborated it many times over since then that we were doing irreparable damage to the atmosphere and possibly catastrophic damage if we kept on doing it. And we wanted to stop testing on the earth or under the earth because that too was a problem in terms of proliferation. And the North Koreans proved it by testing underground without anybody knowing it the first time they did so that was a way to get around the treaty if you tested deep enough in a how do you test underground is there a cavern

large enough to contain the cloud the Iranians have one and it's been taught to them how to do it by the DPRK and that's the most I can say about that but just take my word for it if you will the audience know how to do it and they have the terrain to do it. But you have to go deep enough and you have to have a certain rock formation, kind of like the, you know about the rock formation that's under New York.

The only way you could build those incredible skyscrapers in New York and why you can't do it in other cities in the United States is because of the rock formation under New York. So you find that kind of rock formation deep enough, you tunnel down and you make it a small yield weapon

and you don't detect it necessarily. The only reason we detected the first North Korea one in some way was the seismic center in Geneva reported an unusual event. And we did the map search and we said, ooh, we better be alert around that area in the future 24-7. We were and we detected the second one. Okay. I want to get back to Venezuela and Colombia and Cuba in a minute.

But first, this is what the president said. And I need you to tell me, What is the purpose of this with that smirk and that finger? The United States has more nuclear weapons than any other country. I am reading from the president's truth social opposing. This was accomplished, including a complete update and renovation of existing weapons during my first term in office. Because of the tremendous destructive power, I hated in caps to do it, but had no choice.

Russia is second and China is a distant third, but will be even within five years. because of other countries testing programs. I have instructed the Department of War to start testing our nuclear weapons on an equal basis. That process will begin immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. What the hell does that accomplish, Colonel Wilkerson? Well, it makes the world a lot more dangerous place,

and there's a lot of misstatement in there, too. Russia has more total nuclear warheads than we do. He might be trying to say that we have more sophisticated in more diverse delivery systems, but when it comes down to counting warheads, Russia's ahead. And I don't think China is going to make it in five years, unless the pressure we have put on China and Russia together combines to make Russia provide a lot of help to China. Otherwise, they're not going to make it in five years, because they're maybe 600, maybe 700, and they've got to build out to five, six thousand to equate ours. But it's a very dangerous and destabilizing statement, like many things that Trump does

are that, but this is far more dangerous because it's nuclear weapons. You don't go about nuclear weapon diplomacy in a chaotic, dangerous, egocentric, narcissistic way that complicates an already extraordinarily complicated matter in the world today since we have destroyed every single one but start of the nuclear weapon treaties. That's why Russia stole a march on us with INF-type missiles, because they can do it. We walked out of the treaty. The treaty no longer bound them, so they were moving out rapidly. Let's go back to the president's threats.

You have articulated that Venezuela does not pose any threat to American national security. Does the country of Colombia? No. Does Cuba? That's so preposterous judge that it makes the policy that we've had for half a century plus look like a laughing matter, and it is a laughing matter to the rest of the world. Here's a laughing matter for you. The senior senator from the state of South Carolina, sorry, Uncle Larry,

cut number 11, Chris. President Trump has decided. to treat drug cartels as national security threats. Remember the caliphate, the ISIS caliphate, that President Trump destroyed? We have a drug caliphate in our backyard. Venezuela is run by an indicted drug dealer, Maduro, who's not a legitimate president of Venezuela. It's a safe haven for drug cartels. So President Trump has a policy that if you're in the drug business, you're a drug cartel

and you're having boats come to America. blow up the boats. I think his policy is going to go on the land. If you're a country housing drug cartels, we're going to treat you as a national security threat to our country. There is a caliphate in our backyard. Colombia, Venezuela, and Cuba are all countries that have allowed drug cartels to operate with impunity, make money off poisoning America, and these countries should be on notice. With Donald Trump, the game is changing. If you harbor drug cartels were coming after you, Venezuela, Colombia, and Cuba harbored, what are we going to do, invade three countries in Latin America?

Well, let's just look at the lies that Lindsay Graham just told. Blatant lies. The best partner, and the military will tell you this, and the U.S. Coast Guard will tell you this, the best partner in the Caribbean for the United States in the Mona Passage, the Windward Passage, or anywhere else in the Caribbean. Caribbean is Cuba. They report immediately. They help immediately. Sometimes we reject their assistance because we know the repercussions that might happen to our officers in the Coast Guard or the U.S. Navy should someone in the White House find out about it. But I've been down there

many times and talked with the DAT, the defense attachés, and the Coast Guard and naval personnel who work there with the Cubans. They think they're better than the Mexicans. They're better than anybody else in the Caribbean at helping us with drugs. So Lindsey Graham, you're lying through your teeth, just like John Bolton lied through his teeth, saying they had a bio level four chemical capacity and a bowel level five working on it. Lying through your teeth, Lindsay, and I think you're lying about Venezuela too. And you're probably lying about Colombia, although I know from having orchestrated some of Planned Colombia, the $750 million we put down there, there was a lot of cocaine coming out of Colombia.

Was the CIA ever instrumental in facilitating transporting or looking the other way while the transportation occurred of dangerous drugs into the United States for whatever superior purpose they had in mind? They financed several of their clandestine operations, including most prominently that associated with the fiasco called Iran-Contra with drug sales that turned those. profits over to the CIA, and they then plowed back in support of the contours, for example, in Honduras and Nicaragua. Here's our once-in-future friend. He came back to the show today after a hiatus of about a year, the former chief operating officer of the CIA for Latin America, Jack Devine, on that very topic, Chris, Jack, number one. Didn't the CIA itself once facilitate the movement of drugs into the United States for some

CIA designated better purpose? Let me not, let me not equivocate. That is absolutely a hundred percent nonsense. The CIA never, ever transported drugs into the United States or had anything to do with. I spent all my career beating a little living. But the CIA then looked at the way while this happened so that the kingpins behind the delivery of the drugs would cooperate with the CIA. We all know that, Jack. Do we? I have no supporting evidence, and I would like to see your and your team supporting evidence. We don't work with drug traffickers.

Who told me this nonsense? He didn't go to the same Vietnam I went to. They were so deep into drugs in Cambodia and Wales. pitiful. I had case officers. Case officers who told me that. CIA case officers. Yes. Yes. Some of the same people

who were in Vietnam, where I was torturing people. Now, he may not have known any of this was happening. And one of the things he said there in the beginning reminded me of John McLaughlin, who's one of the most accomplished liars I ever met. John would say things like they

never brought drugs into the United States. I don't think they did. others brought the drugs into the United States, they facilitated the sale of those drugs because what they wanted was the profits to finance clandestine operations, which the Congress would not appropriate money to finance. Here is United States ambassador to the United Nations and former but fired because of the signal chat nonsense, presumably, a national security. of former congressman Michael Waltz being embarrassed before the General Assembly of the United Nations

as he stands there and attacks Cuba. Now, I had not a her. I'd not heard any attacks on Cuba until this. And then Senator Graham followed up with the reference to Cuba that we already ran. But take a listen to this, Colonel. Chris, cut number seven. The facts are this is an illegitimate and brutal regime that seeks to cast its as the victim of aggression while plainly describing itself as, quote, the enemy of the United States. It's located just 90 miles off our shore. It conspires and it collaborates with enemies and adversaries of the United States against our interests. The facts are that this regime supports terrorist organizations around the globe. It is allowing mercenaries to fight in the war in Ukraine.

It's propping up the Venezuelan regime and it aids cartels. The facts are that these cartels that it pops up are trafficking people, drugs, and weapons and is aiding and abetting instability in our hemisphere. They undermine democracies in our hemisphere. I'm very sorry to interrupt, but there's a point of order from Cuba. Madam President, yes? Yes, we have to give the floor. to the point of order and the representative of Cuba. The permanent representative of the United States

not only lies by substantively deviating from the topic but also expresses himself in a rude and arrogant manner towards your presidency, the dignity of this assembly and the member states. He does so with a lack of culture, rudeness, and discourtesy, that is unacceptable in this great and democratic chamber. Mr. Walsh, this is the United Nations General Assembly speaking to you today. We welcome your attention and presence.

This is not a signal group, nor is it the House of Representatives. Great statement. Great statement. You know, Colonel, they obviously do their homework. Great statement. You know, I was just thinking the whole time he was saying that, Waltz was saying what he was saying. Cuba is so hard pressed right now. I was just on the phone with the Deputy Chief of Mission. They are so hard pressed right now,

they can hardly meet themselves coming and going. They're really, really worried about what this hurricane has done. And Cuba has one of the best hurricane preparedness procedural envelopes in the world. They've survived many a hurricane much better than Puerto Rico or Haiti or any other place, even ourselves. and they're seriously worried, and it's partly because we have so punished them that they are at the wits in right now in terms of everything from energy to food to water. But for Mike Waltz to say they present a threat to the national security of the United States,

what's behind that? Is Trump planning to invade Cuba? He has a whole group of people who've been around from Roger Noriega, Otto Reich, you name them, I had to deal with them. They've been around for so long. They want to get rid of the Cuban government, period. It's almost as bad as with Iran. And it's worse, in a sense, because they're closer and they've got lots of allies, though many of them are getting old in the state of Florida.

And they will not be happy until they have eradicated the regime in Cuba and put, you know, Myers-Lansky types, lucky Lucy. Ciciano types back down there to run Cuba and feed the drugs and money into Florida. I mean, let's face it. That's what Cuba was until Fidel Castro kicked on. Right, right, right. When you say back in Cuba, you mean because the mafia was there. Yes.

Del Castro threw them out. FDR made a deal with Lucky Luciano during World War II. He said, you run the New York docs, keep them calm, and I'll give you Cuba. afterwards. And that's exactly what he did. And Myers-Lansky came down and made it a real good mafia operation. Is it fair to say there's one person behind all of this, Cuba, Venezuela, Colombia, and he happens to be the Secretary of State of the United States? Bingo. Bingo. All right, let me transfer over to the topic that I planned on spending 20 minutes with you on yesterday, actually today, the IDF announced that they killed a hundred people yesterday,

74 of which were women and children. I heard it was 124, but that... All right, okay, so the numbers are not consistent, but the point is the vast majority of them could not have been Hamas. The stated purpose was somebody from Hamas fired at IDF officers or troops, in Gaza City. They're not supposed to be in Gaza City. They're an occupying enemy when they're in Gaza City. They may lawfully be fired upon when they're in Gaza City. Am I misreading something here? No. What you're reading correctly is Bibi Netanyasu's utter disdain for the word ceasefire,

let alone the execution thereof. Well, and collective punishment. Okay, we killed 100 and 124. even though 25 or 26 were the only ones were after. Collected punishments of war crime after Nuremberg. Right. And you're not even referring to the West Bank. The pictures I've been seeing of the West Bank are just horrible. I mean, they're just ripping and tearing in the West Bank. Trump says that don't worry about it.

The Israelis will not get the West Bank. Watch this, and then we'll talk about what's going on there, and then I'll let you go. Can you say that louder, please? Yes, yesterday there was a vote at the Gnetset in Israel on annexing the West Bank. Do you see it as a challenge to your peace efforts? Will you answer that, please? Because I cannot understand the words you say.

Where are you from? Where are you from? I'm from France. Beautiful accent, but we can't understand what you're saying. The West Bank is... Don't worry about the West Bank. Israel's not going to do anything with the West Bank. going to do anything with the West Bank, okay? Don't worry about it. Is that your question?

They're not going to do anything with the West Bank. Don't worry about it. Israel is doing very well. They're not going to do anything with it. I don't know what that phrase they're not going to do anything with it means. They've already de facto, not de jure, de facto annex the overwhelming majority of it in violation of a variety of international protocols and laws. and killed innumerable people dispossessed innumerable people burned innumerable homes and otherwise devastated the West Bank their purpose clear purpose they don't need to annex it they have it by force majeure wow that was the most dissembling response by president of the United States, I think I've ever heard. They're not going to do anything with the West Bank.

Were you idiot? They are doing it, even as you say those words. Was the Kushner, I think the answer to this is yes, but I don't want to put words in your mouth. Was the Kushner, Whitkoff, Trump, Netanyahu Gaza deal, just a sham so that the Israelis could get their living hostages back. Yes. I think it was more than that, though. I really do. I think their plan ultimately is to gather finish off Iran.

Now, there's some impediments to that developing, not least of which is Russia, and probably Donald Trump's remarks to and from Putin. And he talks, as I think you said one day, he talks to Putin more than we know. Right. And I think he's got some real serious reservations, and I hope they deepen and become more profound about following BB into Iran. Is Putin sending military supplies and technicians to Caracas? I think so.

From what I'm hearing, the Wagner Group is there also, not in great force yet, but there will be more deployments of it, probably. And that's, I think, to counter Eric Prince's boys, who were there too. Wow. So let me get this straight. We have American intelligence fighting and killing Russians in Ukraine. And now we're going to have Russian sort of renegade troops fighting and killing CIA

and American troops in Venezuela. Accurate. You left out Syria. We did a little bit in Syria, too, when we were trying to find us. The Syria situation is so bad. And to think that Trump embraced this monster that David Petraeus practically kissed this guy's shoes in public. I forget the name Aljulani,

who we have pictures of this. We can't post them. Of him holding severed heads and smiling over it. And he's now the president of Syria. And this is the guy the West World. welcomes. This is the guy that the State Department, it may have been yours, posted a $10 million bounty on his head, and then Tony Blinken and company and Marco Wobio and company got rid of the bounty. The sad thing, Judge, I think, is we may see Israel take maximum advantage of this

while it is doing so many other things, too, and insert itself into Syria in a very dramatic and deep way wow this stuff is just going on and on and on i don't know how or when it's going to end but uh colonel lawrence wilkerson uncle larry love you thank you very much for your time my dear friend look forward to seeing you and i missed you last week while i was in moscow but you're back i'm back and it's great to see you at least once a week next time i'll wear a beard all the best my friend thank you take care welcome back Thank you. Great human being. Coming up, two more great human beings. At three o'clock, Professor John Mearsheimer, at four o'clock, he's holding something back that he says

is explosive, and it involves the FBI and Charlie Kirk. Max Blumenthal, Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. Thank you.