Judging Freedom - CPT. Matt Hoh : Why the Resistance Won’t End

Episode Date: June 9, 2026

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and because you are a veteran of the military, I want to play a little bit of what Congressman Thomas Massey said on the floor of the House of Representatives yesterday, which was the anniversary of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. Chris? They launched four torpedoes. One of them hit the hall. of the USS Liberty and killed 25 people instantly. It blew a 40 foot by 40 foot hole in the

side of this ship. They were intent on sinking it. But they were also intent on not having a single survivor. According to eyewitness accounts, the Israelis machine gunned the lifeboats that they put down. They machine gunned the firefighters who were on the deck. They were bringing the wounded and the dead to the mess hall to triage them. They were. They were They had one doctor who was trying to help them all, put a few stitches in. It was harrowing, and it's amazing. If not for that crew, that boat would have sunk that day. But it still wasn't over.

Helicopters showed up. Combat helicopters. And the USS Liberty, even though their signals were being jammed by the Israelis, got a signal out. And there were ships that tried to respond. The USS Saratoga, the USS. America sent planes, both of them sent planes to help the USS Liberty. And something happened this never happened before. A ship under attack, the planes were recalled. This has never happened before. And they sat there for 17 hours. You know, the official reports say that it was a case of

mistaken identity. But if you listen to Dean Rusk, former Secretary of State, Richard Helm, CIA director, Bobby Ray Enman, head of the NSA, Captain Ward Boston, who was the chief counsel of the court of inquiry. If you listen to Admiral Moore, who served in Pearl Harbor, Midway, commanded both the Atlantic and Pacific Fleet and was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, none of these distinguished men think this was an accident. They think it was intentional murder by the country of Israel. either as a false flag operation,

or because they simply didn't want anybody observing what they were doing that day. So this continues to sting and to herd, I'm sure, all veterans. And, of course, the Congressman Massey's speech went on and on and on. There's even a part in there about LBJ himself getting on the phone as speaking to the captain of one of the ships

who couldn't believe that McNamara was telling him not to rescue their fellow soldiers. Your thoughts on this? Right. I mean, LBJ supposedly said, I don't want to turn your planes around to the Admiral and Command of the Mediterranean Fleet. I don't want to embarrass an ally. I spent 10 years in the Marine Corps, Judge. I never heard one thing ever about the Liberty. There were three Marines aboard the Liberty, along with the sailors.

Two were killed. Staff Sergeant Bryce Lockwood survived. He received a silver star for his actions. He saved lives that day. But if you read Bryce's, you know, Stassar and Lockwood's Silver Star citation, there is no mention of Israel in it. It's an unnamed enemy attacked the ship. And this idea that somehow these Israeli torpedo boat commanders would mistake this ship for an Egyptian ship is laughable. One of the few things those torpedo boat commanders had to do was to know all the different Egyptian ships out there.

That was part of their job. There's no way this could have been an accident. And so just the cover up of it, the whitewashing, there's been supposedly investigations, including those by Congress. Those have all been absolute garbage. You know, I should use stronger language to describe them. And then God bless Thomas Massey for pushing. this for bringing this up for reminding uh you know the americans what happened and how americans sailors and marines were sacrificed 34 of them uh were were killed more than a hundred uh were well

more than a hundred were wounded some of them with uh wounds that maimed them for life all of them traumatized by this if not not just simply traumatized by the attack but more so traumatized by the way that they They were betrayed by their government, by their government ordered to demanded them, commanded them to never speak about this. And then whitewashed an investigation, covered it up and protected Israel rather than doing what was right and necessary for those Marines and sailors. Well, moving over to Iran and before I ask you about the resistance, why is Iran willing to risk war with the United States? send Israel in order to save Lebanon? Because they're winning, Judge. And as my friend Rosie just said to me, losers don't get to dictate the terms of war.

And that's what Iran is doing. Iran has been winning this war. And they continue to win it. And now, I don't know if you saw the breaking news in the last hour, President Trump put out a true social message saying that the Iranians had shot down in an Apache helicopter over the streets or Hamoos. The pilots, you know, fortunately are okay. But, you know, the willingness of the Iranians to dictate not just the terms of a potential deal, but the terms of a ceasefire.

You know, this is not the rules that the Americans believe the Iranians should be playing by. But, you know, this is the American way of war for decades, a fantasy of fighting down, beating down on local resistances, local insurgencies, having an upper hand in terms of just being able to dominate the air, to dominate the electromagnetic spectrum, et cetera, et cetera, and now up against a country that prepared for a war, actually up against a country, I should say. First time the United States has done that in what, 50 some odd years, the United States is finding that the Iranians aren't playing by the rules as the Americans would like them to. So when the Americans engage in military action during this quote ceasefire unquote the Iranians don't respond the way they're

supposed to they don't respond meekly by responding in kind a tip for tat no the Iranians ratcheted it up they escalated they say to the Americans every time you attack us we're going to respond 150 percent more than how you attacked us the Iranians say you attack Lebanon we are going to attack Israel and we've seen them do that they're now and I've seen things suggest that they are expanding that to include Palestine as well. And here with regards to the Straits or Hamoos, the Iranians say we control the Straits or Hamoos. So the American sail destroyers into the Straits or Hamoos.

They get shelled, shellacked with missiles and drones and they have to retreat as fast as possible. Or in this case, we fly an Apache helicopter too far out of our safe zone, and it gets shot down. And so this is what losing looks like in a ceasefire for the Americans. So how significant from a military perspective is this switch in policy? The Iranians will strike back not with proportionality, but stronger than they have been hit. And they may strike first. They may not wait for the Israelis or the Americans to strike as happened. Chris, if you want to put that up again, the full screen, has happened apparently with this helicopter.

I'm just going to read the last sentence. There were, nevertheless, after he describes what happened, the United States must have necessity respond to this attack. Thank you for your attention to this matter, signed as he customarily does. This must have taken everybody by surprise this change in military policy by Iran. It shouldn't have, but it certainly did. I mean, first of all, Judge, just reading that and seeing the American president apologizing up front for military action really demonstrates how the United States,

at least the American president, does not want to restart this war. You know, I mean, you read that and you see a man who has to respond because it's just just a political reality. I can't allow a helicopter to get shot down and not respond. So what we'll probably see from the Americans is a proportionate response. They'll probably bomb the Navy base that they'll tie it in somehow to this helicopter getting shot down and it'll be a proportionate response as opposed to. anything that would require the Iranians or would allow the Iranians or prompt the Iranians

to respond with some type of heavier retaliation. The Americans here trying to manage the Iranian actions. And this is what we saw occur during the five-week air campaign. The Iranians dominated the war. They seized the initiative of the war within the first few days. They controlled that initiative. They controlled the tempo. They effectively set the rules for the war. If you attack these infrastructure, we will respond in kind. By the end of the war, they were set by the end of the campaign, they were saying if you attack our infrastructure will retaliate four times greater than how you attacked us. I mean, setting the tempo, setting the rules, controlling the initiative. And we've seen that in the ceasefire as well. So we saw this last week where you had

an exchange that should have been typical, if you will. The Iranians shot down drones. Americans blew up speedboats should have been the end of it. No, the Iranians attacked the American Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain. They attack Camp Arafjan in Kuwait. They put holes in the roofs of the terminals at the Kuwaiti International Airport. And the Americans were unable to respond. So you see the Iranians clearly having control.

of this situation. Now, control of war is off the ephemeral. I mean, war is something that has its own agency. I mean, so the Iranians have to be very careful here as they proceed that just because they are managing things in the way they like right now. It doesn't mean a week, a month, six months from now, those conditions will still be there. But certainly at this point right now, you know, the analysis I have, and I know that many others share, is that Iran is in control here. they are setting the rules, they have the initiative, and they're controlling the tempo for how this hot ceasefire proceeds. and on our side of it to give Donald Trump even more agita, you have Benjamin Netanyahu and Israelis,

seeing this, of course, as the best opportunity they have to conquer Lebanon to further isolate Palestine, but also to utilize their conquest of Lebanon as the provocation to restart the war with Iran. So Donald Trump has started this war that he can't win that he can't get out of and that he can't control. The Americans of the three belligerents here are the ones leased in control. Right, right.

He said yesterday, quote, negotiations on an agreement with Iran are in their final throws, THR-O-E-S. He didn't spell it, but that must have been what he meant, with a deal possible on two or three days. He's been saying a deal is coming in two or three days since April, Matt. Judge, I heard this morning he has said it's 37 times. Wow. I mean, that's every other day, essentially, right?

I'm going to play a, yes, right. I'm going to play a clip from Prime Minister Netanyahu in the Knesset on Sunday night. And then I'm going to ask you if Netanyahu can defy Trump and if Trump can defy Netanyahu. Watch this. Number seven, Chris. A prime minister in Israel must have one specific essential ability, just one single ability. And if he lacks this fundamental quality, then he simply cannot be here in this position.

He needs to be able to say one word to the president of the United States, and that word is no. No. Can he say no to Donald Trump? Can Donald Trump say no to him? Or is this going to produce a treatise like a John Mearsheimer's book? I'll say this, this is all our fault, America's fault here. We are the ones responsible for this.

If we didn't have a system of legalized bribery for our government, this would not be proceeding in the way it is. So Benjamin Netanyahu, on the face of it, shouldn't be able to say anything to Donald Trump other than, yes, sir, and thank you, sir, because of the vast support that sustains Israel, that enables Israel, that keeps Israel propped up, that comes from the United States. Donald Trump should just be able to pick up the phone

and say to Benjamin Netanyahu, look, Bebe, if you don't pull your troops out of Lebanon right now, that's it. No more fuel for your planes, no more spare parts, no more bombs. You can forget about your $4 billion a year we give you as well as all the other billions upon billions that we provide in a myriad of ways. But that's not possible because we have a legalized system of bribery for government in the United States and the Israel lobby exerts profound influence, and it's more likely control for about three quarters of the American Congress.

I was watching a report today this morning, Judge, from Dropsite News, where their correspondent was asking members of Congress as they were going in and out of the Capitol building what their feelings were with regards to the Defense Intelligence Agency, placing Israel in the highest category of intelligence threat to the United States. And you could see just American members of Congress, prominent American members of Congress, pretending, you know, Jared Moskowitz or Debbie Washman, Schultz, and others, pretending that they didn't know about this. I hadn't heard about this story.

You know, it's only, you know, America's greatest ally in their opinion. and in their proclamations, spying continuously on the United States, putting bugs in our secret service vehicles. I can just tell you from experience that, you know, when I go back 20-some-odg years, every counterintelligence brief I received, you know, would have been like, say, when 2002 and 2005, 2008, 2009, you know, in Washington, D.C. when I received those briefings, They always listed Israel as a top intelligence threat. They would list the Israelis and the Chinese and maybe one or two others, but the Israelis were always 20 years ago a top intelligence threat to the United States. And so here you have America's greatest ally spying on the United States,

and you have American members of Congress who are scared to death to even acknowledge that they have heard about it, let alone do anything. So it answered the question there, yeah. In discussing this yesterday, this very same story with Jeff Sachs, he's of the view. I think you'll agree that the news is not that Israel is doing that because we all knew it. The news is that the New York Times published it because somebody in the intelligence community had had enough and wanted it out there. That's right. That's right.

The DIA had frankly said this has gone too far, where they were able to match it before and just now they're seeing just such a pervasive and, a deliberate attempt by the Israelis to bug our most sensitive areas, such as the president's motorcade vehicles. That goes too far for our intelligence officers, our counterintelligence people. I mean, it had always gone too far. When I would be briefed on this and said, hey, the Israelis, they were upset about it, but kind of along of what are you going to do? And this is our job and we mitigate it. But now at this point, with all the other issues regarding Israel. And of course, too, just as you brought up at the beginning of this program, you know, go back to 1967 and their attack on the Liberty. Gee, wow, hey, this anniversary of that attack.

This story comes out in New York Times. I mean, you just see decades here, decades here of the Israelis acting as anything other than an ally to the United States. What they've been is they've been parasitical. What they have done is they have steered the United States into policies, into positions, into wars that have been ruinous for the United States. And again, a lot of that, that blame has to come back to the United States because this is our system of government that the Israelis are able to control in the same way, right, that the banks control, you know, finance industry, big ag controls our agriculture policy, pharma and the health care insurance companies control our health care policy, you know, etc.

Why will the resistance to Israel not end? Because when you deconstruct this, Judge, when you put down on paper what this is about and you chase, trace back on a timeline, it just simply comes back to occupation. It simply comes back to this idea that the Israelis, you know, beginning, you know, more than 100 years ago, but but mostly in the 1940s, you know, following the establishment of the Israeli state. stole people's land. They took people's homes. And the same was done in Lebanon. The same was done done in parts of Syria. The same was done in the Sinai to the Egyptians.

The same was done to Jordanians. You know, I mean, the Palestinians in 1948 lost 500 villages and 750,000 people were forcibly evicted from their homes. It's called the Nakpa, the catastrophe. I mean, so what you have then is that is, a position, this idea of resistance to occupation, that also understands that this is all basically under a larger imperial project, a larger domination of the Middle East by the United States. Before that, it was the Brits and the French, but now it's the United States following World War II. And so until you get back to that very basic core, fundamental reason for why you're

people are fighting the Israelis, why people are fighting the Americans, you will never have any resolution until you acknowledge that, yes, this is about foreign powers, taking people's homes, taking their lands, trying to dominate them. The United States does it in Iran in 1953. We remove a popular elected Democratic prime minister and put in place a dictator who runs a police state for 27 years essentially and robs the country blind while he's doing it. I mean, so the history here, the context of why they are fighting us, it's very easy to understand. Essentially, what would you do if this was occurring to your family, to your community, to your people? Wouldn't you resist? Why don't more people in the government do what Joe Kent did

Then what you did, what you did, leave, state the reasons for leaving. Wash your hands of the foul destruction of American foreign policy. God, Judge, there's as many reasons, I think, as there are millions of people who go along with these wars and these occupations and these coups and these war crimes and this corruption and just bad policy. You know, some of it's the golden handcuffs. People have a career. People have a family.

People have bills. Others, I think, Judge, they say to themselves, well, you know what? I can't make a difference now, but when I'm in a senior level, then I won't allow something like this to happen. Other people, many of them don't understand that what they are witnessing, what they are taking part in, is a continuous line of history, that these wars that are carrying on right now in the Middle East are there. same wars as the wars in Syria and Yemen and Libya. And those were the same wars as Iraq and Afghanistan. And Iraq and Afghanistan were the same wars as Vietnam and so on and so forth, that we are part of this continuous line of history and that the United States is an empire. And this is what empires do. And for reasons of identity, people not wanting to be a part of something like that

because of the way our education system works, because of the propaganda that are Hollywood and our news media pump out continuously, people can live in a bubble. They can have a narrative where they believe that they are part of the team that have the white hats on. You know, I mean, and there are many, many other reasons too. But, you know, a lot of it is just fear of being ostracized, fear of being outside of the group. Again, the golden handcuffs are a huge part of it, but also, too, this is your career.

This is your identity. And now you're going to leave that. And then you see what happens to people that do speak out, people who do blow the whistle. I mean, Joe Kent is, unless things have changed, is under the threat of investigation and lawsuits and trial and all those sorts of things because he spoke out. And the long list of whistleblowers who have been prosecuted and persecuted in every presidential administration, we'll go back to Barack Obama's administration, we can look at Chelsea Manning and Ed Snowden, Tom Drake, John Kiriaku, know, the instance, others like reality winner. I mean, people who put themselves out there in the public interests, what was their consequences? You know, what was their reward? And so I see

that this is something that the United States government does very well that makes examples out of people. You know, when I was out of the government by now, Judge, but when Ed Snowden, And God bless Ed Snowden. When Ed Snowden came out, came forward and said, you know, the government is spying on us. The government is committing mass constitutional crimes against us. And then, of course, had to flee and go into exile. But what was the government's response? What was one of the government's responses was to create what was called the insider threat program,

which incentivized federal employees to rat out their fellow employees. Not just incentivized them, threatened them with punishment. essentially judge if i work next to you in some federal office and i've got suspicions that you're going to go tell the washington post or the new york times or cnn something and i don't come forward with those suspicions well then i'm going to be held responsible right so as well as too there's most there's essentially a bounty being put out if you could turn in somebody you're being punished for being punished for silence right and that was and that's the climate that exists in the federal government and so everyone's scared to do anything that then might get them in trouble that might be

untoward that might be seen as putting them the same league as an ed snowdon or a tom drake or a john karyaku or a chelsea manning you know joe uh kent will be back here thursday at uh at nine o'clock and i'm going to ask him what's changed since he left are they still investigating you matt mad a great conversation thank you very much great great uh moving conversation deeply appreciate it. All the best. We'll see you next week. All right. Thank you, Judge. Sure. Coming up on all of this at 3 o'clock, Colonel Karen Koukowski, Judge Napolitano for judging freedom.