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Today is Tuesday, October 7, 2025. Colonel Karen Kutkowski is here with us on just a moment on the United States government in Israel's hands. But first this. My friends, if you care about your liberty and your right to control your own future, you need to hear about this. From October 10th to 12th,

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exclusive VIP panels, use promo code judge for 20% off your upgrade. That's expatmoneysummit.com promo code judge. Colonel Kratkowski, welcome here, my dear friend. I've been asking all of our guests today. a similar opening question, in your view from the evidence you've observed, did the Netanyahu regime know about October 7th before it happened? Yeah, I think absolutely they did. I mean, there were suspicions, even at the time, because you know, Egypt and other allies said they warned the idea for their counterparts about

what was happening. But what's come out since then, of course, confirms that, because IDF soldiers themselves, other people, you know, are talking about stand-down orders that they received that morning prior to the thing. So I think this was the thing that they needed. This was the false flag. It wasn't a false flag in the sense that it really happened, but it was intended to happen to allow this horrendous overreaction and basically the elimination of Gaza, or at least the takeover and elimination of Palestinians that live there. When you say stand-down orders, you mean somebody in a position of authority ordered the troops not to repel the invaders.

Well, what I read, the normal, you know, the borders, and this is what Charlie Kirk had said, you know, in his own observation, you know, he had been to these borders, and he said they're quite well protected, but guys that were, their duty was to show up and run and stand their shift on the wall, so to speak. We're told you don't need to come into work today. You can just stay out, stay in, not necessary. And this has been reported in Israeli media. So it's actually a domestic scandal for Israel in the sense that people are wondering, you know,

why was just allowed to happen? This must be what Netanyahu fears. Maybe it's just the tip of the iceberg. I don't know. will come out if and when there is a grand investigation of what happened. For sure. And actually, that's also why he doesn't want peace, any type of peace, because even if that piece is not, if it's good for Israel, so to speak, and it's terrible for the Gossans, even that will allow that breathing space,

that political space to go ahead and analyze what happened. And we do, you know, haven't we done this ourselves with all of those? of our various wars. When they kind of come back, we revisit and we say, oh, wait a minute, we were wrong with that. And that will happen in Israel. But when it does, of course, being a much smaller country, you know, they know their leaders, right? I mean, nine million people, that's the state of Virginia. It's got nine million people in it. They're connected to their prime minister. They're connected to the members of the Knesset. So there will be accountability in Israel if it is allowed to be, if they have the time and space to look at it, which they will as soon as peace

breaks out. Is there a moral argument to be made that Hamas fighters morally legitimately attacked to the military of a country that was illegally occupying theirs? You know, morally, I can't say, but legally, an occupied territory and an occupied population has a right to defend themselves against the occupier, particularly when that occupier is recognized as such and has a set of rules they're supposed to follow, including caring for the people under their purview. And Israel, of course, does not do that. You know, this is a, I mean, Gaza was a concentration camp before this. So, yeah. Morally, of course, for me, it's not a, of course, there's a moral problem. But I think for the world, there is, we have agreed that legally occupied people have a right to self-defense. And so it makes perfect sense to me. But again, you know, I don't, I don't promote war.

Yeah. And I don't like war. Was there a better way to go about it than the paragliders? on October 7th. I don't know, probably. But are you sensing or recognizing the loss of support for the behavior of the Israeli government in Gaza amongst American Jews, even amongst Jewish American neocons, even amongst some prominent Jewish American neocons?

Among average Jewish Americans, I think there's a 50-50 split. And that is incredible when you think about how indoctrinated they are to promote and value the Zionist state of Israel. They are indoctrary. American Jews are indoctrinated into that. So 50% of them don't support it. That is amazing. I think for the neocons, particularly those that surround and infest Washington, D.C.

And make policy, these guys, like all people that are interested in policy, they are looking strategically. looking long-term. They're trying in their little pea brains to play chess. And so they are extremely concerned that all of the soft power and plenty of the hard power that Israel brings to bear is being wasted. And certainly we know economically, you know, they're suffering. And that type of thing, the fact that the world doesn't like Israel, the world doesn't want to buy Israeli products. The world doesn't want to invest in Israeli bonds. You know, that was kind of slow to build, and it's going to be even slower to restore. And I think the neocons around Washington that normally would love greater Israel, they were on the bandwagon for all the wars that we fought, you know, for greater Israel.

But I think they see the risk much more clearly to Israel than maybe even some of the folks inside of Israel's own government do. And they're aware of that. So they're pulling back. You know, you've gone too far. What is the relationship, as you understand it, between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Donald Trump? Your piece dated October 3rd, but now published everywhere, excuse me, examine some subtleties.

It's not an ironclad control, but it's almost like quarterback to coach. Yeah, well, you know, I always try to understand that because to me it's a mystery how a man like Trump, a politician like Trump, could get elected on America First, on ending overseas involvement, overseas interventions and war could could so quickly turn into, you know, the Netanyahu's puppet. And so I'm trying to understand what it is. And I think coach, I think Netanyahu, he looks upon him as a coach. And he, you know, Trump admires success and he admires strength. And so in his circles, who also many of his friends admire Netanyahu for political success and political strength. So Trump is predisposed to admire Netanyahu. But what concerns me is he is being coached by Netanyahu when he should be being coached by the people that voted for him and the populist movement in this country, which could care less about.

Israel. They like Israel, but Israel is no different than any one of the other 180 countries of the world. That's who should be coaching Trump. But instead, Trump is taking his cues from Netanyahu, and he's adopting an idea of enemies all around us. And that's not particularly Trump. That is the opposite of what made Trump attractive as a candidate. He didn't see enemies everywhere. He saw the United States as potentially very great. But he has started to talk like enemies are everywhere. And where does he get that from? Well, we know where he gets it from. There's only one other country that thinks enemies are everywhere. And that's Israel. And they have made that to be a fact. The other thing that really concerns me, there were three

areas that I looked at. But the one that I think is the most concerning is his intolerant language. Now, the left will say, oh, we always told you, you know, Trump's very intolerant of others. But that's not, they didn't watch Trump closely. He's not intolerant. He's actually, he likes people. He's a people person. But the language of intolerance, the threat language that Trump has been increasingly using. And even we see it with Putin, who has, who, who, this harms the United States when we try to threaten Putin language-wise. And Trump is doing that increasingly.

And that I think he picks up from Bibi Netanyahu. And I think we could solve the problem simply by not having. Netanyahu come to Washington, you know, I think four times in a year, that's enough. He doesn't need to visit any time for the, you know, four times, that's good for four years. You know, let's wait until Trump has a new president. When the new president comes, Netanyahu can come back if he's still around. But he is visiting overwhelmingly. He is exercising his influence with Trump.

And we're seeing a result. And the result, of course, is terrible for Americans who voted for Trump. And it's also terrible for those who voted against Trump because he is for, getting who his people are. They are not Zionists, okay? Those are not Trump's people. And he's forgetting that. Here's Netanyahu recently. And you'll hear a phrase in here that obviously is intended to get to Trump. Everybody will know it when they hear it. Chris, cut number nine. One is developing now ballistic missiles that are intercontinental ballistic missiles for

8,000 kilometer range. What does that mean? They add another 3,000 kilometers, and they've got under their gun, under their atomic guns, the New York City and Target, Washington, Boston, Miami, Maralago, okay? So that is a very great danger. We don't want to be under the nuclear gun of these people who are not necessarily rational and who chant death to America. Mar-a-Lago, of course, he's going to say that.

All of our military people say this is all of all the face lie. They don't have missiles that can reach Boston and Los Angeles and Mar-a-Lago. And they don't have nuclear warheads. That's right. And even if they had the reach in the nuclear warheads, why? Would they be interested in destroying those cities? You know, if America behaved properly, as Trump promised it would do, we would have no enemies, okay? We might have some economic competitors with this tariff obsession, but we would have no enemies.

And so, but yeah, Netanyahu is very nervous. In fact, he's increasingly, I don't know if it's stuttering is the right word, but he is nervous. Netanyahu appears to be nervous, and it's probably because Gaza is the Gaza war's ending one way or the other. Well, he can't stay in office once the war is over, can he? I don't think so. I don't think so. And also, the folks that backed him, his coalition, will blame him for not finishing what was started. And what, of course, was started was intended to be a complete ethnic cleansing.

I mean, they used the word in Israel, members of the Knesset, use the word ethnic cleansing. It's not completed, and it wouldn't be completed by their standards until there were no Palestinians left at all in Gaza or the West Bank, for that matter. It's almost as if, and I'm taking this phrase from George Orwell, and you used it in your peace. Netanyahu is trying to persuade Trump the war as peace. Yeah. Well, for Netanyahu, it is.

for Netanyahu, he cannot survive politically. He may not survive as a human being when peace breaks out. He will be blamed by those who wanted to exterminate every last Palestinian. And if they aren't able to do that, they will blame Netanyahu for it. And of course, you know, you can't be 30 years in politics in a, you know, a place like Israel or the United States without being a little bit crooked. So he has enemies within. He has political enemies. He has political enemies. He has people. people that hate him. He, you know, even within the IDF, even within Mossad, they are probably not completely happy with him. So he's highly vulnerable once the war in Gaza goes to the next phase, which is why he's standing in the way of that. And it's funny, Trump said, you know, you're so negative. You're so, you know, used to foul language that Netanyahu is so negative about everything. And it's like, Trump, wake up. Yes, he is. Because if peace breaks out, he's, he's he's a goner. Wasn't the whole premise of the Zionist project that there would never be a Holocaust or ethnic cleansing or collective punishment based upon a characteristic of birth? And haven't they

gone 180 degrees to perpetrating the worst known Holocaust since World War II? Yeah, for sure. And we've got the evidence on this one just because of technology and social media. So, there's plenty of documentation of what's happening and plenty of government leaks as to what's happening and what is intended to be happening. And it is contrary to the messaging of why Israel was founded. But if you think about it, you know, the Zionist movement started at the turn of the century, really, long before World War II. And that was sure there were historical pogroms and abuse and that kind of thing. But the Zionist movement started at the turn of the century, really, long before World War II. And that was, sure, there were historical pogroms and abuse and that kind of thing. But the Zionists who envisioned a state for Israel, it wasn't because of the gas chambers in World War II.

Those came later and they were complementary to populating Israel. So those terrible things and never again and that kind of thing. Those are slogans and sloganeering that supported the Zionist state project, which had been going on long before that. So what I'm saying is that if you use propaganda, I don't, I'm not going to accuse you of, well, you didn't believe your own propaganda. Well, of course not. That's why we call it propaganda. If we believed it, we would call it truth.

Right. I'm going to switch gears for a minute because President Putin has just made a rather extraordinary statement about Ukrainian troops retreating. I think we have it. Chris? We are also developing new kinds of weapons and supplying him to our sult. Despite all its attempt to resist, the enemy has been retreating across the front line. And against the spectrum, the Kiev regime is trying to show that it can succeed.

It wants to show it to its western partners. Western partners by targeting Russian sides behind the front lines. We will ensure the security of our strategic and civilian sites, including the energy infrastructure. Today, during this meeting, we will review the situation in the special military operation. We will hear a report of our military command, and we will discuss the supply of weapons in our plan for the near future. Let's start this meeting. So something's happening over there. We just talked to your colleague Matt Ho about the very weak state of the Ukrainian military.

Now the Russian president goes on national television, the sale. A lot of them are retreating, and we are using new arms with which they're not even familiar. Maybe this is finally coming to an end. Yeah, I would think so. But the problem is the belief system in most of the EU and some of Washington, D.C., that belief system hasn't been corrected yet. Even Trump was saying just what, a couple weeks ago, oh, I'm sure Ukraine will take all their property back, take all their territory back. And with what?

How are they going to do that? How are they going to populate it? Since a good many of their population has departed and their young men are dead. So this idea is crazy. But I mean, four years, almost four years of this war, why it makes no sense. Do you think that the Netanyahu regime is blackmailing President Trump? Well, I think he may be, well, I don't put it past him to blackmail. I don't know if they're blackmailing Trump himself or his family members or his, somehow his business interests or whatever.

You know, when I saw months and months ago, or a year ago, after the pager attacks, and I saw that Netanyahu had brought into Trump a gold pager, a golden pager as a gift to commemorate the pager attacks, I saw that as a threat. You know, I don't know how Trump saw it, but if somebody had conducted a sabotage operation like that, that really scared pretty much everybody on the planet who holds a cell phone in their hands, you know, the idea that how vulnerable these systems might be, and somebody hands me a golden page. And this is after we already know that, you know, after Netanyahu's visits, we have bugs in the offices of Western capitals, including Washington.

So, yeah, I would see that as a threat. The fact that Trump didn't or doesn't seem to is strange to me. But I think it's his family members. I mean, he's... Does the Secret Service sweep the White House for bugs after Netanyahu and his entourage of spent an afternoon there? I mean, Boris Johnson, excuse me, the rather failed Foreign Minister of Great Britain

claims he found a bug personally put by Netanyahu in Johnson's personal bathroom in his personal lodgings at 10 Downing Street. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure that they sweep.

I'm sure that if nothing else, we've got Tulsi Gabbard up there, and I imagine she's making sure if the Secret Service isn't. And, you know, we haven't heard a lot from Secret Service. So I'm hoping they have good people that are doing that.

You know, Trump does seem to occasionally let us know that he doesn't completely trust Netanyahu or Israel occasionally. But that's like maybe 5% of everything that he does. And the other 95% is that, you know, these guys are our best buddies and we'll do anything for Israel. And it's very much he's out of sync with the American people right now. And again, feelings and attitudes develop over time, like this anti-Israel BDS global movement. It took a long time for it to develop in response to what they're doing in Gaza. But the thing is, it'll take even a longer time to reverse it. And I think this is why Netanyahu and Israel are very concerned about young people in America,

concerned about Charlie Trump turning away from Netanyahu specific. specifically, you know, they're very worried that these attitudes will develop somewhat rapidly or they'll seem to. And then they will be persistent. They will be hard to reverse. And I think they know that, which is why he's paying, what, $7,200 for a pro-Israel post on social media. Right. Right. So it's important to them. But strategically, they are way too late, way too late. Karen, a pleasure, my dear friend. Thank you for joining us. I commend to everybody, Coach Beebe leaves a mark.

You can get it at Judge Knapp, Lou Rockwell.com, and elsewhere, it's a great piece. All your pieces are great. This one really, really fascinated me. Thank you, Colonel. All the best. Thanks a lot, Judge. Appreciate it.

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