Judging Freedom - Kyle Anzalone: Is the US Preparing Israel for 'Multi-Front War' ?

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Resolve to earn your degree in the new year in the Bay with WGU. WGU is an online accredited university that specializes in personalized learning. With courses available 24-7 and monthly start dates, you can earn your degree on your schedule. You may even be able to graduate sooner than you think by demonstrating mastery of the material you know. Make 2025 the year you focus on your future. Learn more at wgu.edu. Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Monday, February 26th, D.C., where this American airman doused himself with flammable liquid and burnt himself to death in protest to the American financing of and support of genocide in Gaza. I mean, there's two stories here as I see it, and I'll
Starting point is 00:01:47 let you take the ball and run with it. One is obviously something wrong with this guy that he would kill himself. The other is American mainstream media doesn't even carry this as a protest to what is happening in Gaza, but just as a crazy person wanted to kill him. So look at this, New York Times, active duty airman sets himself on fire. A man sets himself on fire outside the Israeli embassy. U.S. airman sets himself on fire. Crystal put up Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper. U.S. soldier fatally set himself on fire outside Israeli embassy in protest of American support of Gaza war. I don't know, am I making a big deal out of nothing here, or should these media outlets be more understanding and more direct in their reporting on something
Starting point is 00:02:40 as tragic as this? Absolutely, Judge. And certainly if this was somebody within the mainstream media's protected class, say somebody from the LGBTQ community, and they had killed themselves at some U.S. government building in, say, Texas or Oklahoma, certainly they would be promoting that as saying, well, they killed themselves because of the laws in these states. And here they're downplaying it, of course, because they want to downplay everything that Israel is doing in Gaza. So this is all a part of the cover-up. And, of course, our news editor at Antiwar.com, Dave DeCamp,
Starting point is 00:03:15 also really does a good job highlighting the reason this young airman decided to take his own life in this really tragic way. I watched a portion of the video. I could not make it through it. It is very hard to watch. And, you know, he is sending a very powerful message. My understanding from reading some initial reports from family and friends is that, you know, he was somebody of generally sound mind. This wasn't some kind of psychotic break or anything like that. You know, certainly anybody who's willing to take their own life is somebody who,
Starting point is 00:03:50 you know, is having some forms of struggle and certainly not something that anybody should ever do. But, you know, this wasn't something that happened as a form of psychosis, but rather, you know, an intentional act based on what they felt they were a part of it and trying to protest against it. Chris, can you put up the tweet that he sent out? I think it's a tweet or an X or whatever they call it now. Yeah, here it is. That's his name, Aaron Bushnell. And he says, many of us like to ask ourselves, what would I do if I was alive during slavery or the Jim Crow South or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide? The answer is you're doing it right now.
Starting point is 00:04:34 This is apparently the last public communication that he made and apparently taped himself being immolated. And then I understand, and I can't show a picture of this is too gruesome to show uh the security guards came out and pointed automatic weapons at him now I don't know if they are American security guards or Israeli uh security guards you can hear them yelling get a fire extinguisher but they did point, they waited, and they pointed automatic weapons at him. I don't know if it's the mentality of the Netanyahu government, the coldness of American military guarding him, the blindness of the American government funding genocide. I don't know what it is, but the American response is horrific.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Right. And whoever, I haven't nailed down yet exactly where that security guard who, our police officer who pointed the weapon at him was from, if it was an Israeli or an American, but either way, judge, a lot of American police and Israeli forces, whether that's the IDF or Israeli police, all are trained in Israel. So this is kind of the U.S. adjunct to anything. You know, our first responders, our police get there and start pointing guns at people rather than trying to help the people involved. It's kind of a sad state of things and, you know, representative of police action in America. I'll tell you what else is covered so well by antiwar.com and not that well in the mainstream media, and that is the Israeli interference with the efforts to deliver aid,
Starting point is 00:06:15 food, water, medicine, blankets to the displaced Palestinians, displaced by the Israeli bombs in southern Lebanon. You just don't see it carried. And of course, there's no outrage in America, no outrage about the genocide itself. And then there's no outrage about the blocking of food and water. And then there's no outrage about the starvation and the disease. I don't get it. Yeah, absolutely. And this is something I've tried to cover a lot, either at the Libertarian Institute or antiwar.com, are all the steps the Israeli government is taking to block aid from
Starting point is 00:06:56 getting into Gaza. And it's really a multi-pronged effort at this point. One is bureaucratic. They're not processing visas for aid workers that would service international organizations in the West Bank and in Gaza. And they're also expelling workers whose visas are expiring. And so this means that there's less aid workers in these areas. And they say it's hampered the delivery efforts for aid in Gaza for dozens of agencies. So this is fairly significant. The Israeli finance minister Smoltrich is blocking the offloading of U.S. funded flour and other food products from a ship in an Israeli port that would then go to Gaza. He says it's because of the ties between Hamas and UNRWA, which just this past week, the Wall Street Journal reported
Starting point is 00:07:45 that the U.S. intelligence community assessed that that claim was not true the way Israel is presenting it, that they only have low confidence in the Israeli claims. And Israeli protesters are blocking aid trucks that are trying to transit the really onerous Israeli inspections regime for aid entering Gaza that removes life-saving medications and other aid and slows aid delivery so much to the Strip. And even if aid does get into the Strip, it has multiple problems. Now, one, there was a police force in Gaza that was escorting the aid around the Strip to make sure it reached different destinations like the northern half of the strip. But now the police force is not doing that because the Israeli forces were targeting
Starting point is 00:08:30 them. And this means that a lot of aid trucks and convoys are just getting mobbed by Palestinians when they enter Rafah and the people in northern Palestine aren't getting any aid. But Israel has also just targeted either ground troops firing machine guns into trots or actually hitting it with tank shells or larger artillery munitions. And so Israel is really stifling the aid going into Gaza at a time where there are children. One in six children in northern Gaza are suffering from acute malnutrition. And we just had a baby, a 45 days old,old, two-month-old baby die at a hospital in central Gaza. What do you think will put a stop to this slaughter and genocide? It doesn't appear as though it's going to be the U.S.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Resolve to earn your degree in the new year in the Bay with WGU. With courses available online 24-7 and monthly start dates, WGU offers maximum flexibility so you can focus on your future. Learn more at wgu.edu. It's really hard to say. I don't know. I wish Biden would pull the plug on this and maybe eventually the situation there will become so gruesome and so horrific that nobody could deny a genocide is going on. By that time, it'll largely be too late for the Palestinians. They won't be able to return home in Gaza because everything will have been destroyed. And if they're left to be displaced people in the Sinai, they'll never be able to return to their homes again. And so largely, I think Israel has kind of already won in that they're going to be able to displace the people of Gaza. The U.S. has allowed them to do it.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And, you know, even pulling the plug at this point, look at the humanitarian crisis going on in Gaza. There's absolutely nothing, no infrastructure for people to return to. And if Israel doesn't allow the rebuilding of the Gaza Strip, and I can't imagine that they will, then the Palestinian people won't be able to live there again. This is absolutely horrific. The U.S. has enabled a genocide, and it's largely already completed. Has the IDF defeated Hamas in Gaza? I think the answer to that clearly is no. They barely dented it. Yeah, that's absolutely no, they barely dented it. Yeah, that's absolutely true, Judge. And we talked about this when I was on your show last week as well, that the IDF now assesses that, yeah, they've killed off some low levels of Hamas,
Starting point is 00:10:54 but the group will continue to exist as a terrorist group or a guerrilla organization in the years to come because now they have fertile ground for recruitment because they just slaughtered tens of thousands of Palestinians and starved, you know, innocent, completely innocent Palestinian babies to death. Palestinian babies who were not even alive on October 7th are now starving to death in Gaza because of this war. And so, you know, the armed resistance to Israel will continue from the Palestinians because of the horrors they inflicted on those people. When Prime Minister Netanyahu is asked to justify his behavior, he gives the same answer over and over and over again. He compares the population of Israel to the population of the United States, the number of people killed in 9-11 to the number of people killed on October 7th, as it's the moral equivalent of 20 million Americans killed.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And look at what George Bush did, as if that's the moral standard for behavior, what George W. Bush did. Forgive me for getting aggravated, but I'll let you watch this and you tell us what you think. Cut number six, Prime Minister Netanyahu, what would America do? What would America do, Margaret, if you face the equivalent of 29 11s, 50,000 Americans slaughtered in one day, 10,000 Americans, including mothers and children held hostage? Would you not be doing what Israel is doing? You'd be doing a hell of a lot more. And all Americans that I talk to nearly all say that. So Israel has gone to extraordinary lengths,
Starting point is 00:12:29 calling up people, civilians, Palestinians in Gaza, telling them, leave your home, sending pamphlets. We have done that effort. Hamas tries to keep them at gunpoint. We'll clear them out of harm's way. We'll complete the job and achieve total victory, which is necessary to give a secure future for Israel, a better future for Gaza, a better future for the Middle East,
Starting point is 00:12:50 and a setback for the Iran terror axis. That's in all our interest. It's in America's interest too. What a patent liar to say we will protect the civilian population. They have slaughtered the civilian population. I'm getting aggravated here. I'll let you take it, Kyle. Yeah, well, I hope he's wrong in that the Americans would not make the same mistake that we did after 9-11. And for a lot of Americans, myself included, seeing what the U.S. did to the people of the Middle East after 9-11 has made me an anti-interventionist. You know, I looked at what we did not only to the countries of the Middle East and millions of people dead, tens of millions of people displaced, you know, lifelong injuries for a generation, psychological or physical, for, you know, a population of people from Palestine really
Starting point is 00:13:44 all the way to Afghanistan is what the U.S. government has inflicted on the Middle East, you know, these past two decades. And that's absolutely horrific. But I've also seen what it's done to our own country and how, you know, we've lost so many freedoms. We've lost thousands of, you know, over 10,000 of our own citizens fighting these wars over the years and trillions of dollars, a debt that will probably never be repaid, you know, is what we wrapped up here. And the world is not better off for it. We haven't created a better world, not even for the American people. You know, it hasn't even benefited us, just a select group of people, mostly who live around Washington, D.C. And of
Starting point is 00:14:22 course, here, Netanyahu is saying most Americans I talk to, I guess when he only talks to Biden, Blinken and Pompeo, maybe that's true. But I really don't think that the Americans are that bloodthirsty anymore. And we've really turned against this war. And even though our leadership is all for this, the American people are kind of disgusted with this. And, you know, I think we see this, you know, in the most extreme and the young airman, Bushnell, taking his life in that way in front of the Israeli embassy. Was Bibi with Pompeo when he was dancing
Starting point is 00:14:53 with the IDF? I'm not sure. I just assumed that Pompeo would have gotten- I'm sure they talked. I can't imagine Pompeo going to Israel and not paying a visit, at least for the photo op value of it, back home if there is such a thing for him wherever he lives in the U.S. and whatever his future political plans are. I'm going to guess that there was some communication there. Let's switch gears. Did NATO green light Ukraine attacks inside Russia? Yeah, this is something that NATO Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg said recently, that Ukraine has been attacked by Russia. And so Ukraine could hit targets inside of Russia. And of course, you know, as an anti interventionist judge, I really wouldn't necessarily weigh in on this, except that Ukraine is doing this with American weapons, with American and
Starting point is 00:15:45 Western intelligence. And so this is a Western war against Russia. And if we start hitting targets inside of Russia, it's going to really crank the war in Ukraine up. Now, initially, the Biden administration was very reluctant to have this happen because they were afraid of a wider war breaking out with NATO. But apparently the White House just isn't that concerned about it anymore. They're not concerned about that Russian-NATO conflict. And so they're green lighting this. And this is a big deal as the U.S. is considering giving Ukraine attack them. These are the launcher rockets for the HIMAR launchers that can hit targets 200 miles away. And then the F-16 program, which was supposed to be delivered late last year, and now it's already been pushed back to late spring. So who knows when these F-16s actually
Starting point is 00:16:32 get into Ukraine. But once those are able to fly in Ukraine, it could be a very big deal, especially as Russia is pointing out F-16s could carry nuclear weapons. And so they're very concerned about those hitting the Ukrainian battlefield. The New York Times today published a 10,000 word story, you've probably read it, arguing or contending that after 200 interviews, it has concluded that the CIA is the driving force behind a lot of Ukraine intelligence and even Ukraine military activity, military activity in Russia. So the American Central Intelligence Agency is training and guiding the Ukrainians as to how to strike targets in Russia. An act of war by the American government against the Russians? Well, I certainly think so. And the American government would certainly consider it an
Starting point is 00:17:33 act of war and say the Russians were giving the Mexicans and the Canadians the weapons and the intelligence and the targeting and all the means and the trainings to attack American cities, say they were attacking cities in Texas or something like that, the Americans would certainly be ready to go to war with Russia over that and would certainly consider that and have to war against them by Russia. And of course, you know, this isn't a surprise. We've known all along that the CIA was heavily involved in what was going on in Ukraine and
Starting point is 00:18:01 has been for years. The U.S. has largely orchestrated what has happened in Ukraine since the fall of the Soviet Union, particularly the 2004 and the 2012 coups in those countries that importantly led to the Euromaidan revolution and the mess that fell from that. Here's President Zelensky over the weekend on MSNBC answering the question of whether this year, 2024, is a turning point. Cut number two, Chris. You said that you believe this year is a turning point year for Ukraine because of, in part, U.S. elections. You pointed specifically to the U.S. elections. You pointed specifically to the U.S. elections.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Are you talking about Donald Trump? Are you worried that Donald Trump could pull the plug? I hope he will not stop. If he will be the president, that is the decision of your people, of course. And I hope that the policy of the country will not change. I count on the American people. Well, I mean, it's a turning point because they're doing so poorly. The military folks that we put on, you've probably seen and heard them argue that no amount of equipment can rehabilitate them. What they need are human beings and they don't have the human beings and they're being soundly crushed. And at one point over the weekend, President Zelensky's
Starting point is 00:19:28 office said they suffered 31,000 casualties. Well, that's off by a magnitude of about 12 or 15. The casualties that we've seen reported all throughout Western media showing about 500,000 dead and injured, so severely injured that they can't come back to the battlefield. I want to show you one more thing before you respond. This is Fiona Hill. Boy, if that name rings a bell. She was one of the principal witnesses, notwithstanding her British accent, against President Trump in the first impeachment, the one involving the allegations of bribery with respect to Ukraine. But take a listen to what she said over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Putin thinks that he's winning because we've blinked, because we don't seem to have the courage, either politically or morally right now, to stand up and support Ukraine in fending him off and fending Russia off. Putin thinks he's winning because he is winning, because the Ukrainian military is on life support. Take it from there. Yeah, I guess going to the first clip there was Zelensky's interview. I know some people listen to this show, but I would really recommend watching that interview was Zelensky's interview. I know some people listen to this show, but I would really recommend watching that interview because Zelensky's body language speeds more than words ever could. He's so uncomfortable. He knows his army is losing. And honestly, I really don't think
Starting point is 00:20:56 it matters if Trump gets elected or not. I know Trump's rhetoric on this war has been slightly better than Biden's, but Putin even said that he doesn't think it matters if Trump or Biden is elected, and he prefers Biden because Biden is more consistent. And so I think that gives the impression to me that he thinks Trump would continue the war, or at least Trump isn't willing to settle or would be politically pressured in continuing the war if he's elected president. And so the issue here isn't who's going to be president of the United States of America. It's if Ukraine could field an army or not at all. And it doesn't seem at this point that they really have the ability to do that. They suffered a major
Starting point is 00:21:37 defeat on the battlefield recently. Their troops are falling back. And in that retreat, they lost thousands, if not more, captured by the Russian soldiers. And so Zelensky saying only 31,000 dead Ukrainians is gyps absurd. And then Fiona Sills comments, you know, it's just this moral grandstanding that they do. We have to have the courage, the moral courage to stand up for the Ukrainians. What really would require moral courage now is to sit down, talk with the Russians, work out a deal. And the moral courage really was needed back before this war even started in 2021. But now it's too late to cut a good deal for the Ukrainians, but we could at least get them a
Starting point is 00:22:17 decent deal where they don't lose Odessa and their access to the Blattsy and things like that. If they would just sit down and talk to the Russians, but it doesn't seem anybody in Washington has the courage to do that. I've been asking our guests today, and we'll continue to do so this week, if they think that Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, will cave and will cut some kind of a deal with the White House and the majority of Republicans and Democrats in the Congress that want to send $60 60 or 61 billion to Ukraine, or whether he'll stand firm as he was when he was just Congressman Johnson, as he promised when he
Starting point is 00:22:54 was running for Speaker, and not even let this come to the floor of the House. What do you think? Currently, I think it looks good that, you know, the bill that's going through that passed the Senate that the White House wants doesn't include any border security aid, which is a big red line for the Republicans in Congress. And so I think, you know, that they really would need to pass something different in the Senate to get this to pass. However, Glenn Greenwald always kind of points out that the war state rarely, if ever, actually loses. And so they might get creative with the ways they have to send the aid to Ukraine. Maybe they don't break the roadblock in Congress, but they get Congress to pass legislation that allows the U.S. to seize Russian assets and use that funding for the war in Ukraine, or just kind of do a complete end round around Congress and send Ukraine to aid anyways.
Starting point is 00:23:46 There's a lot of different options and avenues that I think the White House could take, none of them being constitutional, but they don't really follow the constitution very much these days anyways. And so I think the war state gets what they want, but I don't think Mike Johnson caves on this unless the Senate and the White House come up with something that has a lot of border security in it. And who knows? Biden seems awfully desperate. When you listen to him, he seems almost as desperate as Zelensky to get this aid passed. And so maybe he's willing to make major, major concessions on immigration policy to the Republicans. I keep thinking of
Starting point is 00:24:21 Tom Woods, this famous one-liner, no matter who you vote for, you end up with John McCain when it comes to war. Carl Ancelone, a pleasure, my dear friend. We'll see you again next week. All the best. Thank you so much, Judge. It's great to be on your show. Thank you. Very, very smart.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Very well-read, gifted young man. I'm happy he joins us. At 4.30, another smart, gifted young man. I'm happy he joins us. At 4.30, another smart, gifted young man, little older, the one and only Scott Ritter. Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. Thank you.

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