Judging Freedom - Larry Johnson : Can NATO Take on Russia ?

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

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Today is Monday, November 3, 2025. Larry Johnson joins us in just a moment. But can NATO take on Russia? That doesn't seem to make any sense, but why are they saying it? But first this. History tells us every market eventually falls. Currencies collapse. And look at where we are now.

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have briefed him on this guy's background? Let's call it political schizophrenia. So on the one hand, we spent the last 25 years fighting so-called war on terror. And the perpetrators of those, you know, the terrorist attacks on 90s. 11 were linked to Sunni jihadists, Sunni extremists. You know, they come resonate with the like the Wahhabi sacked out of Saudi Arabia, Dao Bandis out of Pakistan. So here's Al Jalani, who was, you know, he was a senior member in ISIS and then

split off with ISIS, found, formed other groups like Al Nusra, was involved with on Nusra and then created his own, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, HTS. Now, at some point in that process, he became entwined with the CIA, British MI6. So he became a Western asset. But, you know, it's not the first time the West has gotten into bed with a radical Islamist. We did it during the Afghanistan war in the 1980s. backing extremists that were attacking the Soviets. We then continued that support in, say, 1999 in the Second Chechen War.

Again, Western-backed supplied radical jihadists. And these jihadists, they believe that they've got the truth, that Shia Muslims are apostates, Christians could be killed, and Jalani comes to this meeting in Washington with blood on his hands, American blood. And we had a $10 million reward on his head. But never mind, you know, because we have no actual moral convictions in this country. This will goad you even more, the president yesterday on Al Jolani, cut number six. Are you meeting with the Syrian president at the White House?

Did you invite him? The Syrian president? The Syrian president. He may be coming. I don't know. He's working very hard. We took sanctions off of Syria to give them. a chance in survival. And I hear he's doing a very good job. I guess he has been briefed by

briefers who are saying he's still doing a very good job. Isn't he slaughtering Christians in the streets? Well, the members of his outfit, HTS and other affiliated Sunni groups. They're killing Christians. They're killing Al-Awitz and they're killing Shia Muslims. So, you know, he's not a unifier. He's not bringing the country together.

He's advocating for one particular group. And now he's got the advantage that you know, he's got Western backing. Now, look, that said, he's also been to Moscow and has met with President Putin. Now, Putin

hasn't, you know, gone through the hypocrisy thing on this. I mean, they recognize Jalani for what he is. But what's interesting about that is when Jalani took over a year ago, the West was just howling with glee. Ah, this is, you know, the Russians have been defeated. Iran's been defeated. Now, here we are a year later,

and Jalani's going to Putin said, please stay. Don't go away. Right. So, you know, maintain your air base, maintain your naval base. We want you. And part of the reason he wants them is to help deal with Israel.

Wow. With respect to Israel, what is your understanding of the state of affairs on the ground in Gaza? Is the IDF still killing people? Are our food and medical supplies getting through? Is Hamas being rearmed? Yes, yes, yes, and yes. So look, I had a former special operation. U.S. Special Operations guy, officer, send me some analysis.

This man lives actually in Portland, Oregon. The relevance of Portland, Oregon is if you take this city, you know, the territory that's called Portland, Oregon, that's a little bit larger than Gaza, okay? To put this in perspective so Americans understand how small Gaza is. And yet, here we are, two years after the October 7th attacks, Israel mobilized 300,000 soldiers. And basically, think of it this way, 300,000 Israeli soldiers couldn't conquer Portland, Oregon. All right?

Put that at, you know, think about that for a minute. So Israel, despite its routine murder of civilians. has still been unable to disarm, defeat Hamas. And it's not just Hamas. Remember, there are at least 13 other Palestinian groups, Palestinian Islamic jihad, Abu Nidal group. So Israel has not been able to bring them under thumb, but it has inflicted a horrific price on the human beings in that area.

Switching over to the topic at hand, do the preeminent European leaders, Prime Minister Starrmer, President Macron, Chancellor Merz, think that NATO is a match for Russia militarily? I don't know privately what they think. All we can go on is publicly what they've said. And yes, they absolutely, they think that they think that they think that, they think that, The combined strength of NATO outweighs Russia's capabilities. And you go, you know, you remember that picture where those three were on a train? And there was a suggestion that there was some illegal substances, maybe that alter one's judgment and it may have a hallucinatory effect being ingested. I think they may be back at it because, you know, let's just go down the list. Russia produces more tanks in a year than all three of those combined in terms of tanks.

In fact, I'm going to ensure they have active programs to build tanks. Russia's got at least five different variants of hypersonic missiles, missiles that travel at Mach 6 and above, and can be maneuvered. They don't have one. What is Mach 6? It's over 5,000 miles per hour. Wow. Okay. So, again, not one of those major European members of NATO have a hypersonic missile, the size of their militaries deficient.

Again, you put Germany, France, England together. It still doesn't, it's not even, strongly about maybe 50% of what Russia has in the field right now in Ukraine. So this is one of those examples of these guys looking in the mirror. sitting around, you know, it's like a bunch of old high school athletes who are now in their 60s, and they're sitting around talking about how well they played football and thinking they could still play, except, you know, they're fat, they're out of shape, and, you know, they've got, you know, various physical ailments. That's Europe. That's NATO. NATO is a spent force that just doesn't know it. You and I emailed over the weekend comments.

by this Italian Admiral who is now the chair of NATO's military committee and before we even get into what he said, which I think is absurd and I think you'll agree with me, what is the chair of NATO's military committee mean?

I'm not sure. I mean, you know, it's, I've called it a jobs program for white guys. You know, NATO, NATO is this, big bureaucracy that gives people, you know, officers a chance to say that they've got some important job, but, you know, they're not actually a strategic body and they don't have any

command authority over troops. So let's call it, it's an honorific. You could say, hey, I was in charge of this grand committee. What'd they do? Well, you know, we talked. We had meetings. Well, he claimed that NATO was stronger than Russia, that NATO will stand with Ukraine, and that NATO plus Ukraine equals peace. How crazy can you? You're also plain that the Russians have lost a million troops, which is the second time you and I have heard this in a week. the first time we rebupe the person who said it. Yeah, more than a million, the Western sources are saying. And look, it's just simply do the math.

So can we point to any category of weapon system in which NATO has an advantage over Russia? The answer to that is no. Mark Ruta, the head of NATO, the Secretary General, said six months ago that Russia produces more artillery shells in three months, then NATO, including the United States combined, can produce in a year. So, you know, Russia outpaces, all of the NATO countries combined in the production of brand new tanks. They've got the hypersonic missiles I referred to.

They've now fielded two new, two new missiles, or, you know, one for, you know, one for, underwater, like a torpedo, one above ground, the Boreshnik and the Poseidon. Last year, they presented an intermediate range ballistic missile, the Erritsnik. Now, what makes the Boreshnik and the Poseidon so groundbreaking is that they are powered by an internal nuclear reactor, a miniature nuclear reactor. But that means you no longer can classify it as either intercontinental, intermediate range, short range, because it does it all. It doesn't, it's not confined to how much fuel you can put into a tank and how long that fuel can burn. A nuclear reactor is potentially giving you unlimited time. So, and there are a lot of Western analysts that are poo-pooing, oh, this means nothing.

This is just a bunch of Russian hype. You know, good luck with that. that guise because the fact of the matter they've not seen any of these systems in operation yet or if they're keeping it in classified channels. But again, you can't point to a single technological area in which the West has an advantage or superiority over Russia, including the use of drones. I mean, we haven't even talked about that. The West relies on these very expensive systems like the MQ9 Reaper, which calls $35 million a piece. And, As we saw with the Houthis, with the Operation Prosperity Guardian in March of this year, over a seven-week period, the Houthis were shooting down one a week.

And so at the end of seven weeks, the United States was out almost a quarter of a million dollars of drones. And then Donald Trump declared victory and said, no, those Houthis, they've capitulated. We're leaving, guys. Come on, let's go. Why would this admiral be saying this stuff? Well, first of all, does NATO have a Navy? Yes. Well, it's not a NATO Navy. You have the respective navies of Italy, Germany, UK.

If UK can get any of its ships out of harbor. But NATO provides a coordinating. command structure in the event that there is a war and NATO tries to operate together. They do have, so they do have naval, NATO naval exercises. And what would have provoked? Oh, with this guy? A senior official in NATO to be making the comments that animated you and me over the weekend. Yeah.

the collapse of the the collapse of the Ukrainian slash NATO force that's in Ukraine with this happening right now this is a way to try to boost morale by saying no no no it's not as bad as it looks you know it's it's like that scene Leslie Nielsen the actor

he was in that movie police story and you know as a lieutenant Frank Drebin and there's a scene where a car crashes into this explosive fact bombs are going off there's explosions and fire and smoke and noise and he's going nothing to see here move along nothing to see here that's this admiral nothing to see oh we're great man we are so strong we we got those russians right where we want them and you know russia is russia is just ignoring these guys for right now the only thing that would be if you will a game changer from russia's side uh in terms of changing how they deal with the West would be if Trump actually allows the introduction of Tomahawk missiles. If that happens, then we're likely to see an expansion

of Russian attacks outside of Ukraine. So where is there more fear in the West a fear of Erushniks or in Russia a fear of Tomahawks? The Russians aren't afraid of tomahawks the russian and this is one of the things i heard frequently in my conversations with you know with 28 different people government uh officials uh political figures uh military official military you know uh personnel you know generals um the the problem is a tomahawk can carry a nuclear weapon and russia does not have the ability to see through the missile to know whether or not it's carrying a nuke so russia is going to have to assume it is a nuclear weapon now what's what's alarming is the conversations in the west from several you know prominent people including

you know lindsay graham and jack keen uh where they claim that russia is actually weak russia is a And Russia is just talking tough because there's nothing that they can do about this. Well, there's actually a lot that Russia can do about it. And if they're put in the situation where they have to assume that those Tomahawk missiles that are actually deployed, they'll have to assume that they are carrying nuclear warheads, and they will act to preempt that. And that preemption would include everything up to the use of the Erushnik missile on military bases. in Europe, in Poland, in Romania, in Germany, potentially in the U.K. If a Tomahawk was actually launched and struck Moscow,

you know, cause significant damage to the Kremlin, you cannot take off the table that Russia would retaliate by hitting Washington, D.C. Wow. Then we're into a whole other ballgame. So this is serious, but the Russians aren't afraid of it. I mean, just to the opposite of that, they were like, you know, you better not do it because we're not going to put up with it. It was more that attitude. When you and I first met happily a long time ago before we began our long collaboration, you were on Fox News.

Same with Scott Ritter. Now, of course, you're not on Fox. Scott would never be on Fox. I'm not on Fox. We're in the alternative. media where we reach a huge, huge audience. Apparently, we have gotten under some people's skin, Larry. Now, without mentioning you or me or Scott by name, but mentioning Tucker Carlson, our other colleague, who I should have mentioned in this group, watch Mark Levin, somebody I rarely put on, but

I've got to raise your blood pressure a little bit. Watch Mark Levine before the Russian Jewish coalition over the weekend. And I just want the anti-American anti-Israel anti-West crowd to understand something. You're going to have to come through me

and millions of people just like me and you're not going to make it. You think your stupid little podcast or your stupid little subscription program or your little TV show or maybe you have a little radio show is going to change the world like hell it is not if i and everybody else have something to say about it i said russian it was a republican jewish coalition

obviously they're not happy when we point out that none of us is anti-semitic but zionism is destroying freedom and life yeah well you know little fat bald guy says he's going to stop me good luck with that you know uh it's unfortunate that levin is such a hateful nasty little man yes yes but it is um you know he's always screaming and yelling uh and people forget that when donald trump first showed up on scene man levin was doing everything he could to destroy donald trump hated don't trump now he claims he's a big a big Trump supporter. Again, to conflate being anti-American

just because you despise Zionism, which is Zionism is not Judaism. Zionism is a completely different beast. And we can line up lots of Jewish Americans or people who profess Judaism as the religion around the world that reject Zionism, you know, the heart and soul of Zionism is basically racial supremacy. Correct.

And, you know, there's no place if you believe in a deity. And that deity, you're in the foundation of your belief, is that we are better. This deity loves a particular group of people, more than other people, prefers one group of people over all other people, you know, that's crazy because that's not a deity worth worshiping or obeying or following. So that's the problem Zionism has for itself. It's this, it's this ethno-supremacy that ends up being translated into murder, rape, and torture. You answered what Levin said with such calmness, thoughtfulness, and personal courage. If Levin answered what you just said, it would be filled with venom and hatred and threats.

Yeah. And, you know, it is this foundation of hatred. You know, I've said this earlier today. If you go back to the foundational book in the Old Testament, the Genesis, you know, if there are those who believe this was written, you know, dictated to the early Jewish scholars by God. But if you go to the story of Cain and Abel, where, you know, Kane kills Abel.

His brother. Yeah, not only his brother, but in this, you find that, Cain is one who kills. He murders animals. He slaughters animals and offers blood sacrifice. Abel is a farmer. He produces fruits, vegetables. And yet God actually favors, accepts the offering of Cain and rejects the offering of Abel.

So that this God that's presented there in the Old Testament is a God of bloodlust, not a God that celebrates productivity, things that grow that doesn't involve shedding blood. And so that whole mentality of shedding blood, unfortunately, is embraced not just by the Zionists, but we're saying, you know, we've got Donald Trump doing it. He's enjoying killing guys and gals maybe that are in boats that he insists are drug traffickers without one shred of proof. and you go back to your days as a judge, you would not allow a single law enforcement officer

to survive a trial that was based upon them saying, I thought the guy looked suspicious, so I shot him. I killed them, right? You're 100% correct. I've got to play one more for you. This is the guy that Max Blumenthal chased through the halls of Congress. Now, when you see the size of him, I don't know how Max didn't catch him,

but Max was carrying him. happy camera with him, Congressman Randy Fine saying, Tucker Carlson's the most dangerous person in America. This will turn your stomach. Cut number seven. If I was talking to my father at 8.59 p.m. at night, he would say, Randy, I got to go. Tucker Carlson's going to be on. But make no mistake. today, Tucker Carlson is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America. He has chosen to take on the mantle of leader of a modern-day Hitler youth, to broadcast and feature those who celebrate the Nazis, those who call for the extermination of Israel, to defend Hamas,

to even criticize President Trump for stopping Iran's nuclear ambitions. Friends, make no mistake. Tucker is not MAGA. Yeah, despicable. What a despicable human being. You know, but is this kind of, look, it's this kind of fanaticism from the likes of a Randy Fine and a Mark Levin. That is, hey, keep it up, guys.

You know, it reminds me of a comment. I interviewed the head of the Communist Party in Russia. And he's a, you know, he's older than me, pretty rough, you know, he's very forceful. And afterwards, I was getting ready to interview another gentleman who's a, he's in it, let's call him an advisor to Putin. And I said, what did you think of the, what did you think of Mr. Zhulanov, you know, the head of the communist party and he goes we're so happy that he is head of the communist party so what you can say is we're so happy that randy fine and mark levin are the or the face of zionists in america because it's not a very attractive or appealing face and the kind this kind of vicious

vile hatred directed at Tucker because if you listen to Tucker and actually watch his various interviews he's the exact opposite he's not calling for demonizing a group of people

he actually believes that you hold individuals accountable for their individual acts and he's been very emphatic about you don't demonize Judaism you don't demonize Jews so Yeah, it's just, it is a shame that Randy Fine is saying what he's saying.

But, you know, given his obvious challenge with resisting donuts, I think he'd be better off focusing on a healthy lifestyle instead of doing such venom. I suppose it's just a matter of time before these creeps come after us. Every knocks a boost. Yeah. Larry, thanks very much. Thanks for your time. We want a little bit longer than we usually do. It's always a pleasure to chat with you, and I'll see you Friday with the youngster. Yeah, I'll be there. Thanks, Judge.

Thank you, my dear friend. All the best. And coming up at 1 o'clock this afternoon, Professor Francisco Rodriguez, what is really happening in Venezuela, and why does the United States threaten to conquer it? And at 2 o'clock, responding to and commenting on Professor Rodriguez, our old pal, Kyle Ann Salone. Judge Lepalettano for judging freedom. Thank you.