Judging Freedom - Larry Johnson: Mike Waltz Wanted a War!

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:03:37 Before we get to why Mike Walsh was fired and whether this was a promotion, as the vice president claims using air quotes. The Netanyahu regime announced just about two hours ago that the IDF plans to occupy Gaza. What will this look like? Now, what have they been doing for the last 20 months? So, you know, we're told that the Israeli military is the greatest in the region. Nobody better.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And yet they've been incapable of defeating what is essentially a guerrilla insurgent force. Armed only with light weapons. By that I mean rifles, maybe some machine guns, a few mortars, but not heavy mortars. They certainly have no artillery, no tanks, no armored vehicles. They don't have any kind of overhead intelligence surveillance reconnaissance. They don't have fixed wing aircraft. They don't have helicopters. And yet Israel, who has all of that stuff, can't defeat Hamas. So they've had to resort to starving women and children. And that's not even going to accomplish it. You know, these Zionists, these crazed Zionists, they don't even remember their
Starting point is 00:04:53 own history. That in the Warsaw ghetto, where a very, very small group of Jewish fighters held off the German Wehrmacht for a month, they they were only armed basically with pistols and maybe five or six rifles So a mosque has got a lot more than that, but they're still not an organized military. So this is This is Israel in the process of destroying itself. I think won't this breed Even deeper than what has happened since October 7th? Another generation of Hamas fighters against Israel, more animosity, more hatred, more suicide bombs and
Starting point is 00:05:37 the like. Well it's going to make it even more difficult for Israel to continue the war because you're correct. This is not driving support away from Hamas, it's driving support towards Hamas, that's number one, but it's creating growing opposition and isolation of Israel within the region. The Houthis have now declared that they're gonna shut down Ben-Gurion Airport for the foreseeable future. They're gonna keep launching ballistic missiles in there. And Israel proved that they couldn't stop it.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You know, I fell out of my chair earlier today when I heard General Jack Keene admit that even the US THAAD system, which was sent over to help Israel intercept ballistic missiles, failed. Couldn't do it. So now we know, so now the Houthis got that as a sign. The reservists that represents the bulk of the Israeli military, they're rebelling. They're not showing up. They're getting orders to deploy.
Starting point is 00:06:38 They're going, nah, screw that, we're not going in. So Netanyahu has ordered about 10,000 reservists and many of them We don't know the number will refuse as you continue was also threatened Iran because the Houthi missile did some damage at Ben-Gurion Hungarian Airport, where is this gonna go? Well again, if Israel is going to be possessed of hubris,
Starting point is 00:07:10 you know, they couldn't stop the Houthi ballistic missile. Iran has ballistic missiles that are far more sophisticated, capable and lethal than anything the Houthis have. So if he wants to go provoke a fight with Iran, he's gonna get it. And you know, this diluted notion possessed not just by Netanyahu and some of his, you know, Zionist fanatics, but it's also in Washington and surrounds Donald Trump. They really genuinely believe that Iran is weakened, Iran can easily be beaten, and we'll just all be at the do is just fly there and drop bombs and they'll surrender You know, I remember getting that storyline when we went into Iraq the first time right back in 19 Oh, yeah, I'll be over at a heartbeat had a little problem with that same in 2003, right?
Starting point is 00:08:03 We've never learned and you know, the Balkans, we thought all of our bombing campaign would immediately end the fighting there. No. So, you know, nobody's learning a damn thing. And they're going to they're going to rinse, repeat and do some of the same stupidity all over again. Here's a spokesperson for the Netanyahu government. Well, you'll get a kick out of this. This is not an occupation. It's just expanding the holding of territories as if that's a difference, but you'll hear him. Chris, cut number 15. And this expanded operation will help the return of our hostages. The plan will include, among other things, the expanding and the holding of territories. Not occupation, the expanding and holding of territories and moving the Ghazan population
Starting point is 00:08:54 south for its own defence and denying Hamas the ability to capture humanitarian supplies and also there will be powerful attacks against Hamas. These actions we believe will help achieve victory and the Prime Minister and the government believe that this is a worthy plan because it can both achieve both of our goals in this war which are the defeat of Hamas and the return of our hostages. The government has also made it clear that this plan certainly differs from predecessors in that we are moving away from the method of raids going in and going out, but to expanding the territory held by our military and remaining in them to prevent Hamas from taking it back.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So expanding and holding, moving two million people to one corner of the place, but that's not occupation. Shopify helps you sell at every stage of your business. Like that, let's put it online and see what happens stage. And the site is live. That we opened a store and need a fast checkout stage. Thanks! You're all set.
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Starting point is 00:10:26 I mean he'd be saying man I didn't realize I was that smart to be able to predict this kind of nonsense, but hey, it's only 19 months Since Israel vowed to defeat Hamas You know 19 months They haven't been able to do it. And now what has happened in the interim has Israel's population grown in size where they have more recruitable trained men to fight. No, it's decreased, diminished, gone down.
Starting point is 00:10:57 They're more reliant upon the United States to continue to supply weapons and they've expanded their theater of operations into Syria. So now they're fighting in Syria, in Lebanon, in the West Bank, in Gaza, and they're also going to go after the Houthis. When you have a limited number of personnel coupled with limited resources, and yet you expand your mission that is a recipe for disaster and yet, you know the I've been involved with training with the Israelis in the past and I gotta say We've been back when I was at State Department and we had I was over with the deputy director of the anti-terrorism assistance training program The Israelis were some of the worst students simply because of their attitude
Starting point is 00:11:44 It's a it's combination of arrogance and you can't teach me anything Ironically the best students were the Palestinians. They were they were eager to learn they followed direction They know you can't make you can't make this up. Yeah. No, so it's just This leopard doesn't change his spots. The Israelis haven't grown in humility. They've grown actually in their viciousness. Some of the military leaders within the Israeli defense forces, which would have in the past put some brakes on some of this outrageous behavior that we've witnessed,
Starting point is 00:12:21 are no longer there. And so you've got, it's more like a violent gang as opposed to being a well-disciplined army. Netanyahu has accused Turkey of attempting to finance the resurgence of Hezbollah in Lebanon. Are we looking at Israel versus Turkey? Oh yes, yeah, no, listen, Israel, Israel and Turkey conspired to get rid of Bashar al-Assad, but they didn't think through the details and now you know
Starting point is 00:12:53 that that initial marriage has gone bad and they're gonna be getting a divorce. So yes, Turkey is gonna fight back against Israel. Everyone's already under pressures before having appeared to be appeasing that Yahoo and his crowd but Syria, you know Syria now that you remember six months ago was all this is a major blow for Russia and for Iran Man, it's like getting that nasty relative. It doesn't pick up after himself. He came to live with you. He's out of the house now That's sort of I think how Russian Iran look at Syria. Thank God. We don't have them on our hands anymore
Starting point is 00:13:32 Hmm, but do you think that will actually be conflicts military conflicts between the Turks and the Israelis? Yeah, I think I think it's a realistic possibility Because the the Israelis You know when they when they bombed right next to Jelani, you know the former former leader of the HTS terrorist group just next to his presidential palace last week You know that it's it's a sign that Israel Israel likes to pretend that it sits back and it's just a passive Observer in this but you know, it's bombed more countries in the Middle East than any other country in the world
Starting point is 00:14:18 Why was Mike waltz fired Well now the official version that's come out in the Washington Post stipulates that he was conspiring behind the back of the president with Bibi Netanyahu to get us to go to war with Iran. What's fascinating about that Washington Post article which came out last Friday, I believe or Saturday is that this this is quintessential Washington insider politics at work. This article was designed to damage Mike Walz and I think it's gonna make it even difficult for him to secure confirmation as the
Starting point is 00:15:03 UN Ambassador. I agree with you on that, but do you have a feeling that the essence of the article was untrue? No, no, I think, I think it was probably true, but you know, the key decision maker in this is a Trump's chief of staff, Susie Wiles. Um, she's, you know, she's running a pretty tight ship. And I think that it wasn't so much signal gate, it was the signal gate aspect that Waltz lied about his relationship with Jeffrey Goldberg and that it was Waltz who put Jeffrey Goldberg
Starting point is 00:15:37 into the group for whatever reason. But what they've done is because Waltz has to go through this confirmation process, the information that was in that article, man, the Democrats are taking notes and some Republicans taking notes right and left because it is great ammunition for savaging Waltz, number one. Number two, here's the guy who's going from the position of coordinating and basically telling Marco Rubio at the secretary of state, Pete Hicks at the defense, John Radcliffe at CIA, what their marching orders were from the
Starting point is 00:16:15 White House as far as this is the policy, this is how we're going to go about it. Now he's going to be at the UN where his boss, the guy he reports to that tells him what to do is now Marco Rubio. So for Vance to pretend that this was a promotion was just sheer nonsense. They had a problem. They recognized they needed to get rid of Waltz. But, you know, since he'd given up his safe congressional seat, they didn't want to just dump him because then he would have been, you know, a potential, uh, you know, hand grenade rolling around on the deck live, ready to blow up. So, you know, they placate him. They put him in New York, give him time and place where if he gets confirmed, he'll be able to go out and maybe find another more lucrative job. But the key in getting confirmed is by these White House sources leaking this information, they weren't done damaging Waltz. They piled on.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And that is, you know, that's one of the nasty ways this game is played in Washington. All right, but think about what he was accused of doing and what you and I have accusations that you and I find reasonable conspiring with Bibi Netanyahu behind the president's back about attacking Iran. And then and not just Bibi he was also apparently in touch with the commander of Central Command
Starting point is 00:17:40 US Commander of Central Command CENTCOM which is just up the road for me here It's at McDill Air Force Base in Florida so both Corilla is his name and that's the general that's the general gorilla and walls were all pushing for an attack on Iran now the the way that storyline played out in the in the post is that Trump is opposed to that. And yet Trump and Hegseth both within the last week have put out some tweets and said some things which then to me, they're more than ready to attack Iran. So in the past we've heard Donald Trump talk about there's gonna be hell to pay and
Starting point is 00:18:20 there was no hell to pay. So maybe this is just again part of his negotiating style to take the bombast in public and to threaten but then to back away. Where are the negotiations now? Do you know about by that I mean is Witkoff telling the Iranians that they can have the uranium that they need for domestic purposes, hospitals, etc. Or is he in the Netanyahu Neocon camp that they can't have any uranium, enriched uranium? Based upon the last meeting, which was now almost two weeks ago, or a week ago, Saturday,
Starting point is 00:19:07 we could have said that they were open to a deal that would have allowed Iran to continue enriching uranium for peaceful purposes. With this shakeup at the White House last week and dumping of waltz, it's rumored that Stephen Miller could come in as the national security advisor. Well, with, with respect to the catering to Israel, he's even more hard line than waltz.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yes. So yes, he'll want world war three. Yeah. So we really don't know where Trump stands and there's been no new announcements about convening,ing, setting a date for the talks to renew. And I think part of that reflects is there is a battle within the Trump administration to figure out what to do. I had a secondhand source from a friend of mine who was directly involved with the decision making to kill General Soleimani in Trump's first term.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And he said that Trump came under enormous pressure from people like Pompeo and Bolton and others to go after Soleimani, and Trump was actually trying to resist it. And ultimately he caved. So it's a reminder that while he instinctively tries to avoid going to war, he really is too weak against sustained pressure from people
Starting point is 00:20:38 that are in the pro-Nanyahu camp. So that's why I think ultimately he's gonna cave to it. And if he does so, I think it'll lead to the undoing of his presidency. Here's what he had to say about Stephen Miller last night on Air Force One cut number 13. Stephen Miller's at the top of the totem pole. I mean, I think he sort of indirectly already has that job.
Starting point is 00:21:07 You understand, because he has a lot to say about a lot of things. He's a very valued person in the administration, Stephen. But we have a lot of people. I'm going to be naming someone, but we will make one point. I would say within six months. Within six months, he needed somebody yesterday. Yeah. Rubio supposedly has both jobs. When Kissinger tried that, he almost died of exhaustion.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I mean, both of those jobs are 18 hours a day. Secretary of State and National Security Advisor, aren't they? Well, it should be, but it looks like what Trump's talking about doing is ignoring the national security staff function. See, at the National Security Council, you bring, you've got the overall person in charge, and then it's delegated out based upon both regional issues, say Russia, China, Middle East, South America, and then also on functional issues like counter narcotics, counter terrorism. And within those sectors, people collect the irrelevant intelligence, they identify critical issues that are coming up,
Starting point is 00:22:25 they try to think ahead about what would the president be doing on this front in six months, a year, year and a half out, and it's up to the national security advisor who in theory has a strategy to go forward. Well, Trump's not doing that. He's sort of just making it up as he goes Right now and it's just the fact that he said he might do something six months totally It's almost I think he views that national security bureaucracy more as a threat and a burden Then as a tool to be used Before we go just jumping to the other hotspot Before we go, just jumping to the other hotspot. Can he bring about a negotiated end to the war, to the special military operation in Ukraine,
Starting point is 00:23:12 without cutting off military supplies and intel to the Kiev regime? No, no, he can't. In fact, you know, Trump keeps trying to pretend that he had nothing to do with this war, that this was all Obama and Biden. And boy, if I was doing it, I wouldn't have happened. Yet he's the very one, as we discussed, I think, on Friday. Right. That, number one, quadrupled the size. Under his administration, the size of the Ukrainian military quadrupled in size, growing from reserves that are around 150,000 up to 900,000 reserves. Trump brags about providing lethal aid in terms of javelin missiles that were used to attack Russians.
Starting point is 00:23:59 So from the Russian standpoint, Trump's no different than Obama or Biden. At least he did recognize the need to talk to the Russians. But until Donald Trump comes to the realization and acceptance that he's as much responsible for this war going on today, because if he pulled the intelligence and he pulled our personnel out and pulled the money, it would stop. Ukraine will not be able to continue. But Trump's not doing that. He's an enabler of the war. And so the notion that he thinks he can be some sort of neutral mediator is just ridiculous. Did he recently boast that he sent more effective missiles than Biden did? I forget what they're
Starting point is 00:24:42 called. Is it Taurus or Javelin javelin well, yeah, no he said yeah the javelin, but that that's an anti tank You know it's not the Taurus is made by the Germans Apparently the United States warned the Germans not told them that they couldn't use the Taurus because there are components in the Taurus missile That are US based, and the US has a control over where Germany can use those. So, but you know, Trump's been all over the board bragging that it was the United States that beat the Nazis, not the Russians.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Just saying some of the most ridiculous stuff. Thank you, Larry. I'm sorry these conversations don't lead us to a happy conclusion. This is only gonna get worse. I mean, much of what you have described as a function of his personality and his ignorance. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I mean, look, it's one thing to joke, but particularly when it comes to World War II. one thing to joke, but particularly when it comes to World War II. And is it genuine ignorance or is it deliberate malevolence to point to claim that no other country made the kind of sacrifice that the United States did in World War II and did more and it's like, are you kidding? You know, we had a grand total of about 299,000 combat deaths. I just said there were a total of like 425,000 military deaths, but like 130,000 of those were from accidents, getting malaria,
Starting point is 00:26:26 getting, you know, their version of COVID back then. So they didn't die in combat. The United States lost fewer than 300,000 people in combat, whereas the Russians lost between 8 and 11 million. They're not sure, but they know it was a lot. And then on top of that, we hardly had any of our civilians killed in World War II. But the Russians, they had between 11 and 16 million civilians killed in World War II. And so for Trump to have said what he said was obscene, obscenely stupid. And this is anyone with just the base understanding of the history of World War II would know just how ridiculous it is.
Starting point is 00:27:17 You know, the Russians got to sit back and wonder, you know, is he really that, you know, is he really that you know lacking in intelligence that completely uninformed misinformed Or is he just deliberately doing this to insult us? Either way, it's not the Russians don't grow a conclusion say man that Donald Trump boy. He's sharp as a tack When you and I were in Russia they gave us a number of 27 million. That's the addition of those two numbers, civilian and military. It's an extraordinary number.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Larry, thank you very much. Much appreciated. We'll see you Friday with the youngster. I'll be there. All right. All the best. Thank you. And coming up at four o'clock this afternoon, Scott Ritter, Judge Napolitano for Judging
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