Judging Freedom - Larry Johnson: Which War Does Biden Want?
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Thank you. Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
Today is Tuesday, May 28th, 2024.
Larry Johnson will be with us in just a moment on,
is Hamas really a terrorist organization
and how bad are things in Ukraine as we speak.
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Larry Johnson joins us now. Larry, a pleasure,
my dear friend. I'd like to start with breaking news. The Guardian of London is reporting
that the head of Mossad threatened the former prosecutor of the ICC, not the gentleman that
is bringing the charges against Prime Minister Netanyahu,
Defense Minister Gallant and the three Hamas officials, but a predecessor team,
a female prosecutor who was there for nine years, basically saying,
you should help us and let us take care of you.
You don't want to be getting into things that could compromise
your security and that of your family. And then Mossad played some tapes for her of conversations
it had captured of her husband. Does that surprise you?
No, no. I mean, the Zionists in this case have just a very thuggish, mafia-like nature.
And they're going to use threats, violence, without regard to whether it's right or wrong or moral.
So, yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all. Do you think, do you expect that the ICC, now that these threats are public, is more likely than not to indict Netanyahu, Gallant, and the others, don't you think?
I mean, they can't keep this backing down to threats, can they? Then they're not a court.
Yeah, so they're going to, the prosecutor asked the judges to issue the arrest warrant. So far, they haven't.
Even if they issue them, I don't think much is going to happen on that front. I think the real action is more with the fallout from the ICJ demand that Israel cease operations in Rafah and open up the border crossings. Because as we saw yesterday, the Israelis basically said, screw you. And they
went in and they bombed a tent city, claiming that there were Hamas leaders there, which is just
laughable because the Hamas leaders, they're not going to be above ground. They're not stupid.
And, you know, the Israelis bombed a bunch of women, children, and men that have been told to
go there to seek refuge. So as a result of that, several years, the EC is now opening discussions about imposing sanctions on Israel.
So not only did Israel fail to comply with the ICJ's order,
and the ICJ is a court to which Israel theoretically is subject.
It's a UN court. Israel is signatory to the UN charter.
We know the Security Council is not going to do anything because the U.S. will veto it.
But be that as it may, not only did Israel not comply with the ICJ, the International Court of Justice order, it in fact slaughtered 45 civilians the pictures are horrific
because of the fires
and because there was no water with which
to put
the fires out
yeah it's just
the Zionists
it's just a monstrous evil
and they're doing it in the name of
we've got to preserve ourselves and yet
in the process they're losing all of their humanity. They are behaving in the same way as they claim
that the, you know, as the Nazi persecutors of the Jews in World War II treated Jews.
And they don't even see the irony of it. Because as far as they're concerned,
these Palestinians are not human
beings. They are subhuman and they're not worthy of being treated as human beings.
Well, the first thing you do when you want to obliterate a group where membership is immutable, like race or ethnicity, is to deny
the group has rights. The Nuremberg laws in Germany denied that the Jews had any rights.
The Israeli government, from Smotrich on down, and even many, many others, don't even consider,
as you say, the Palestinians to be humans.
Therefore, they don't have any rights.
Therefore, it's easy to slaughter them. Prime Minister Netanyahu has said it was a tragic mistake that 45 people died.
How can it be a mistake?
Their AI or whatever they're using deliberately sent bombs to a tent.
Do they really think, as you said a few minutes
ago, Hamas was hiding under the tent instead of 70 meters underground? Yeah. No, it's just,
it's a reminder that all of this is justified because, you know, Hamas is a terrorist organization.
They're one of the worst, most heinous terrorist organizations. And that mantra keeps getting repeated in the West and by politicians.
But it's just not true.
I mean, factually, it is not true in terms of if you're going to measure terrorism,
in terms of numbers of tax, body count.
In terms of body count right now, the number one terrorist in the Middle East is the state of Israel.
It is state terrorism, what they're doing in the Middle East is the state of Israel. It is state
terrorism, what they're doing to the Palestinians. This is not war. It's one thing if those
Palestinians were sitting there with air defense missiles and shooting them at inbound Israeli
aircraft, you know, if the entire population was armed and they rose up and were fighting back,
okay, you can see at least they had a chance to fight back.
But that's not the case.
You know, the overwhelming majority are not carrying firearms.
They're not carrying any weapon that can create any threat to the Israelis.
Yet the Israelis are killing them. a terrorist organization or is it the political the popular political leadership of an oppressed
and occupied nation the the label terrorism that's been applied to them is a it's a political
label to design to discredit because i went back and looked at the actual numbers. Finally, one of my readers of my blog took the time to put all of it into the spreadsheet. This data
is not Larry Johnson data. It comes from the website of the Israeli foreign ministry,
who tracks attacks, Palestinian attacks against Israelis and other foreigners that happen to be in Israel. And those numbers
are quite revealing. Over a 24-year period, it covers basically from September 27th of the year
2000 through April 26th of this year, 2024. So over that almost 24-year timeframe, there is a 594 terrorist attacks as they're listed.
But the overwhelming majority of those took place in the five-year period, 2000 to 2005,
during what was called the Second Intifada.
So it was an uprising, a military uprising. When you compare the number and the total number of Israelis killed
during this entire 24-year timeframe, 1,552. When we originally ran the numbers, it was 1,455,
but now it's 1,552. Well, you got that many people getting murdered in Chicago every two months. That's
over a 24-year period. So if you're going to use your measurement of, well, how many bodies are
being stacked up, the facts of the matter with respect to Israel and the Palestinians is that
Israelis are killing four to five times as many. This was prior to October 7th.
Four to five times as many Palestinians as these Palestinians were killing them.
And of those 594 terrorist incidents that they record, Hamas is responsible for only 16%.
So it's not, it'd be one thing if all 594 were Hamas, but they're not. So that's why I like to come at
this from the facts. It's not an opinion. Either if you're a terrorist organization, that means
that one of the hallmarks is you're going to use violence and intimidation. But when you go back
and really look at the incidents, what you're looking at is people battling over land
and killing each other. The last suicide bombing that was by Hamas, 2007, 17 years ago,
they recognized that suicide bombings were counterproductive. So yes, they are a political
organization principally. It is true in their charter.
They call for the dissolution and the elimination of the state of Israel.
And I'm not trying to gloss that over.
But let's not, you know, while I reject that approach, let's not make the error of insisting that they're somehow like ISIS or Al Qaeda.
They're not, not in any way whatsoever.
Which is more a terrorist organization, Hamas or the IDF?
I mean, it's not even a close call when you look at what the IDF does on almost a daily basis.
Well, again, the Israelis say, oh, look what they did on October 7th.
That was the worst terrorist attack since the Holocaust.
I mean, please.
They dishonor any survivor or people who lost loved ones in the Holocaust
by saying something that stupid.
The number that were killed on October 7th is a little over 1,100, but it's not clear that a significant
number of those were killed by the Israelis themselves and their counterstrikes, particularly
when they were blowing up the vehicles that were fleeing the rave. And then when they went into
some of the kibbutzim where Hamas was holding people hostage with the full intent of taking them back to Gaza
and using them as bargaining chips to get Palestinians out of Israeli jails.
But Israel justifies that.
And then they kill as many Palestinians almost on a daily basis
as they claimed Israelis that were killed on October 7th.
So, I mean, it's just lopsided.
The disproportionality of it is out of control.
How did Hamas come about?
And how did it come about that Hamas was at one point actually funded, funded by the Israeli government?
They organized in the 1980s.
Sheikh Yassin set it up. they organized in the 1980s.
Sheikh Yassin set it up.
Alistair Crook can talk about this at length because he actually sat down and talked to the Sheikh back then.
And so they organized themselves.
They were not organized.
Some people said that they were organized by Mossad.
They were not.
However, at that point, Mossad then saw them as a useful foil to discredit the Palestinian
Authority, Fatah. And so they began funneling money to them to help them raise their profile,
to get engaged in violence at the time, because they saw that as a way to sabotage the peace
process. Because if you remember into the early 1990s,
starting with Bill Clinton in particular,
the Israelis and the Palestinians were starting to make progress,
as well as they were building upon the peace agreements
that had taken place with Egypt a decade earlier.
But now they were building upon this,
and the Israelis wanted to sabotage it.
The Mossad was not going to let this go forward because the last thing they wanted was a two-state
solution. Switching gears to Ukraine, recent reports are, this happened earlier today, this is the Times of India.
Russian troops uncovered Ukrainian arms cache with over 100,000 munitions.
The arms cache stored hundreds of artillery shells, anti-tank missiles, and projectiles.
The loss of weapons, I'm reading from the Times of India,
the loss of weapons for Ukraine comes at a time when Kiev is battling an arms shortage.
The big seizure will cripple the Ukrainian army's counteroffensive in Luhansk.
What will it take for the West to recognize that the war is over?
Or does desperation produce escalation?
You remember the images of Baghdad Bob?
He was on television insisting, no, there are no American tanks here.
John Admiral Kirby, right?
And you can see the American tanks in the background.
I mean, that's frankly what it's going to take.
This is anybody with the slightest bit of intelligence has to look at this picture and understand.
Kiev is out of, they're out of options.
There's a video out today of the Russians captured one Ukrainian soldier.
And the guy said, and he literally said, I was picked up last week coming out of a bakery in Kiev.
And I was taken to this gym for three days and they gave us a uniform.
Then they brought me here.
And, you know, he's one of their frontline troops.
Wow.
I'm not sure the guy knew how to load and unload his firearm, even if he had a functioning firearm.
So, I mean, that's what's going on.
Russia is stretching the resources of the Ukrainians to the breaking point.
They have, you know, they keep throwing men out there to try to stop the Russians. And the Russians are continuing to push, push, push all along that front.
So it's over.
There are already images right now surfacing of a French soldier, French legionnaire.
The normal insignia that he would have on his hat was actually on his sleeve.
So it shows that they're trying to, you know, make it look more like, you know, trying to
sort of hide, but not fully hide who they are.
But he's dead, you know, so he's sent there to train.
But even raises the broader question, what are the French going to train them to do? Surrender? Yeah, you know,
and I caught a lot of heat from some of the Francophiles saying, oh, how dare you insult
French like that? But seriously, name me the last great victory that the French enjoyed with
their military prowess against actually somebody who could fight back. Didn't work out well at Diem Van Phu in Vietnam in the 1950s.
And so what are the French going to teach?
You don't want some guy who's specializing in poverty teaching you how to grow,
you know, how to become wealthy.
You know, they teach you how to be poor. Well, Alistair Crook reports that British generals have told Prime Minister Rishi
Sunak that Britain is at war with Russia, and that's the reason Sunak called for the snap
election, because he hopes he loses, and then he's going to leave Great Britain and that apparently
he doesn't control the generals, the generals control him. If that's true, what could that
mean? I mean, you've told us that the entire British military could fit into MetLife Stadium,
not far from where I live, where the Giants and the Jets play. It's a football stadium that holds about 80,000 people. What would the
British do if they're
at war with
Russia?
They'll do a lot
of talking.
They'll also be drinking tea, I'm sure.
But in terms of actually putting
troops on the ground and being able to conduct
operations and sustain them,
they've got zero ability.
For God's sake, the British military establishment is broken and they don't even recognize it. They continue to live in the past. They can't even get their aircraft carriers
out of port. Their ability to conduct naval operations are weak. And yet here they're
talking about wanting to put troops and trainers in on the
ground. Yeah, there, you know, there's some, there's some great Brits. I've got some good
friends who were SAS and yeah, they've got some skills in doing close quarter combat and hostage
rescue, but that's not what's taking place there on the ground in Ukraine. This is full-blown modern warfare,
what they call combined arms,
where you have people on the ground
coordinating with artillery,
coordinating with people in airplanes
and helicopters, coordinating with
people who are doing electronic warfare.
It's like a
gigantic, malevolent, lethal
orchestra that's playing.
And
all of that comes together just because
you're a good shot in a dark room is not going to help you.
You can't outrun a drone.
That's what they've learned that much to their chagrin.
You can't outrun an artillery shell.
So, you know, this, indulgence, I call it, with the Brits and the
French and the Germans and the Americans for that matter, is just going to get a bunch of people
killed. I asked Ray the same question this morning. MI6, when they're obviously on the ground in Ukraine, and when they report to their
masters back in London, does the prime minister get a true and accurate report, or is it filled
with spin so that they tell him what they think he wants to hear? I think it's probably the latter,
you know, because if they were actually telling him the truth, he'd be scared to death.
You know, he wouldn't be out saying in public some of the things he's been saying
about sustaining this war. So this is, we've really got an intelligence failure across the
board throughout the entire West, that the misinformation and the manipulation
of the public, public opinion, that's what this is all about. Lie to the public, convince them that
things are the opposite of what they really are. And we're seeing that. We're seeing that in Ukraine.
We're seeing that in Israel with the Palestinians.
We're seeing that with the Houthis.
If they were objectively covering things, they'd be noting, you know what?
After all of our six-plus months of effort to stop the Houthis,
we haven't been able to stop them with the most powerful navy in the world.
How does that work?
Right.
I want to take you, you mentioned the Houthis, so I want to
take you to Israel and Egypt, because either one or four, depending upon which report is accurate,
Egyptian soldiers of the officer rank were killed by the IDF this weekend. I don't know the circumstances under which it happened,
but this really appears to be in danger of expanding. Which war does Joe Biden want?
Does he want the United States against Iran defending Israel, or does he want the United States against Russia purporting to
defend Ukraine? Is he crazy enough to think we could do both? We could do either.
Oh, yeah. No, actually, we want to fight China. Remember, let's not leave China out of the mix.
This is what is so ridiculous. And again, if this didn't involve the cost of human life and so much human tragedy,
it would be like a Monty Python skit because they're wanting to fight everybody.
And so, yeah, we're embroiled with a war in Ukraine, embroiled with a war in Israel,
embroiled in a war now with the Houthis that we
can't handle. We keep talking about wanting, you know, people like Alan Dershowitz are insisting
that we need to do regime change in Iran. It's just a matter of dropping a few bombs.
And then on top of it, you've got people like Elbridge Colby, who's the grandson of William
Colby, the former CIA director. And he's writing, hey,
you know, we need to sort of pull out of Ukraine, let the Europeans take care of that,
because we got to go deal with the Chinese. And so the United States is living in its own little
sheltered world, where we get to pretend that we can attack everybody, we're going to tell
everybody else what to do, and that we've got unlimited resources and limited military power.
And yet what the war in Ukraine, the special military operation has revealed is how thin
U.S. reserves are, how limited our military capabilities are, how backwards in some cases
our so-called technology is.
You know, there are articles now appearing in the Wall Street Journal detailing how the electronic warfare capabilities of the Russians
are preventing our weapons from working as designed.
So with all of this rush to war,
the United States is in the process of bankrupting itself and weakening itself.
That's what's, you know, we're going to reach that point where others in the world are starting to awaken to this fact that, okay, the United States actually is not as tough as they say.
It's that Wizard of Oz moment.
They pulled back the curtain and instead of the great and powerful Oz,
you got this squirrely little guy
with white hair standing
back behind the curtain.
Well, the squirrely little guy with white hair
happens to be the President of the United States
today. I don't know if you intended
that analogy. I want to play a tape
for you. It's seven minutes long,
but we reduced it down to a minute and a half.
It's very stylishly
produced uh the latest the latest plea from president zelinsky cut number nine chris does
russia want a dialogue ukraine had the world's largest experience of lies from russian during
negotiations lies that in particular was Russian cover-up for preparing
this war.
And that's exactly why global efforts are needed.
Global peace summit of the leaders whom Russia will not be able to deceive.
Summit that will show who in the world really wants to end the war and not just claim the ceasefire,
which will inevitably be broken by Russian rockets and artillery,
just like as it was dozens, dozens of times before.
To President Biden, the leader of the United States,
and to President Xi, the leader of the United States and to President Xi, the leader of China.
We do not want the UN Charter to be burned.
Please show your leadership in advancing the peace, real peace, not just a pause between
the strikes.
The efforts of the global majority are the best guarantee that all commitments will be fulfilled
please support the peace summit with your personal leadership and participation
for all of us it should be a pleasure to make peace
now that music in the background is not from Judging Freedom.
That's from the Ukrainian producers that produced this.
Have you ever seen anything like this, Larry?
Well, the Ukrainians didn't produce that.
That was done by CIA.
This is probably a joint CIA-British production.
You know, they brought in some folks from Hollywood to help.
Okay, when you're out of all options, then go for the bullshit.
That's what this was.
You know, the Chinese have always already made it clear.
No, we're not coming to your, as he said, his piss summit.
No, we're not coming to your piss summit.
We're going to be meeting with the Russians and working out a new world economic order.
Thank you very much.
South Africa is not going.
Brazil is not going.
I'm sure Vanuatu will be there.
And as people scan the globe and go, Vanuatu, where is that?
So, you know, this little speck of an island that is, you know, a big money laundering center out in the middle of the Pacific.
So it's not even clear by the time the summit happens if Ukraine is still going to have a viable functioning army in the field.
He's not even the president anymore, is he?
Well, that's true.
No, no. He is the acting authoritarian leader.
His term expired.
He decided, hey, I like this so much.
It's a great way to make money.
You know, good entrepreneurial opportunities.
But he lacks the credibility on that front, but they're also going to lack the military progress, success.
They're even talking about having trying to put the F-16s in and the Russians just blew up the airfields.
The one airfield that was the most likely to be used as a base.
So nothing's going his way.
And that's why you get into this sort of desperate plea.
It is so,
uh,
it's just,
it's bad cinema.
Larry Johnson.
Thanks very much.
My dear friend,
uh,
look forward to seeing you,
uh,
in the round table at the end of the week.
Okay.
I'll be there.
All the best,
Larry.
Thank you.
Coming up at, uh at 1145 Eastern,
Colonel Douglas McGregor, Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. Thanks for watching!