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Thank you. Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
Today is Monday, November 25th, 2024, Thanksgiving week here in the United States.
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Larry Johnson, welcome here, my dear friend. What has been the reaction, I guess it's below the surface,
so maybe from your sources, in the American intelligence community,
military, deep state, whatever you want to call it,
to what Vladimir Putin's Kremlin fired off the other day, the hypersonic?
I think alarmed would be an understatement so we've got we've got
a real disconnect in the west the the media the public reaction is just dismissing this is you
know no big deal what putin unveiled the other day was uh this is this is a genuine game changer. This is a nuclear weapon that doesn't have radiation,
that doesn't have a fireball,
that doesn't create a dust cloud that will block out the sun.
They can be precisely delivered that the West cannot stop.
And when it hits, it destroys, literally pulverizes the target.
There's a good recording out of an individual talking to his friend who worked at the plant.
And she is just completely stunned by the devastation that yeah we didn't
because we're accustomed to seeing you know shock and awe like in iraq where the big boiling clouds
of flame rolling and dust fill in the air and smoke rising yeah and and then we find out yeah
it destroys a particular area but doesn't really
you know eliminate it this eliminated that plant this plant had the significant portions of it were
underground and the you know this is we're into a new ball game now uh this is, you know, Vladimir Putin, he's in Babe Ruth territory. Okay. Remember that
famous, you know, game where Babe Ruth pointed to center field? Yes. Hey, that's where I'm going.
And he put it in center field. Putin has now said, going forward, if you continue with these attacks we will respond immediately we are
going to hit military targets we're going to give you advance warning though we're going to tell you
to get your civilians and personnel out of there because we're going to hit it and there's nothing you can do to stop it. And, you know, he wasn't bragging.
He wasn't, you know, playing, you know, bluffing as in poker.
He was just being a matter of, you know, he was like that, you know,
that scene from the movie Billy Jack where Billy Jack says,
I'm going to take my right foot here and put that on your right cheek.
And there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
That's what Putin is doing right now to the west and it is telling that the west has been very very
cautious since they haven't been like sending out the attackums and the scalps and the storm shadows
since that happened because they recognize putin now has a weapon in his hands
that can hit every single city or military base in Europe,
and there's not a thing they can do to stop it.
What was the reaction of U.S. intel?
I mean, did the CIA, the DIA, NSA, whatever three-letter agency you want
to refer to, there's 16 or 17 or 18 of them, not know of the existence of this, Larry?
Apparently. You know, I'm not privy to the intel these days, but I'm pretty sure there was what the hell was that what was that because they may
have had some you know understanding beliefs of about what Russia was working on but you know
even in the immediate aftermath we kept hearing it was this kind of missile and it was that kind
of missile and yet um if you've I've Ted Postal on a couple of other channels,
and even Ted has gone, man, this is something new.
I've never seen anything like this.
So when you're as old as Ted is, and you've never seen anything like this,
that's what they call an eye catcher.
That should catch your eye and grab your attention.
Russia has played a new kind of technology and on top of it insisted,
hey, we got some other surprises up our sleeve that we haven't shown you yet either.
Is there any question in your mind that this was fired in direct response to the U.S. authorization and participation in the use of ATAKOMs
and the U.K. authorization and participation in the use of storm shadows which reached inside of Russia?
None whatsoever.
Putin was coming under growing domestic pressure, particularly within the national security establishment to say, OK, got to take the gloves off now.
We've got to punch back. They were tired of being used as a punching bag.
And, you know, I think Putin up to this point was fearful that Russia didn't have a good intermediate response.
Either we, you know, you can stand an Iskander as they did apparently back in March of 2022
when Russia hit the Yavariv military base in western Ukraine.
That military base at Yavariv was a de facto nato base
and they hit it and destroyed a couple of buildings but not with great devastation
now russia's got in hand a weapon that it can destroy that entire base base and do so without creating a nuclear cloud, without creating radiation and fallout
that would could drift anywhere and potentially even contaminate Russian lands.
So this is the Russians now have they have a Trump card.
They've got a card to play in this game that the other side doesn't um and uh
you know that's why i say this is a game changer because it's going to force nato
to reevaluate because nato's choice is either
continue to allow these attack them some storm shadows and scalps to go and then
face that their their own military
facilities are now going to be attacked and destroyed not damaged destroyed and then then
what do they do launch nukes and as you you know you you played it on your show last week that vice
admiral uh buchanan from i guess the, the Strategic Forces Command,
claiming, oh, yeah, we're prepared and ready to fight a nuclear war.
Yeah, you can say that.
We are not.
We're nowhere near ready and prepared.
We don't have the civilian infrastructure.
Russia is.
Russia has been deploying mobile fallout shelters throughout Russia.
And because of the recklessness on the part of these U.S. officials and U.S. military leaders,
the Russians have now become convinced that the West is intent on attacking Russia with nuclear weapons,
and they're not going to let that happen.
You referred to this weapon as Putin's Trump card.
So continuing the play on words, if President Trump in his first term had not pulled us out of the INF and if the Russians had complied with the INF, would this thing have existed?
No, no.
This is, let's call call this is the Trumpinator. This weapon is a direct consequence of Donald Trump's choices and his policy decision.
Probably advised by John Bolton and Mike Pompeo. They were his principal advisors in that portion of his tenure first time around. Yeah. Yeah. And what's unfortunate is Trump, unfortunately, he's named people to positions of leadership when his National Security Council that he's proposing, in addition to Mike Waltz, this
character, Sebastian Gorka.
Right.
They're out talking trash and saying the stupidest things that could be said.
I mean, just when I thought we had reached levels of imbecility with the Biden administration,
the Trump folks are coming out of the gate strong, trying to out-compete him for saying just dumb things.
Gorka is saying, you know, we're gonna we're gonna go tell Vladimir Putin what to
do and if he doesn't you know the support Ukraine's received up to this point will look like peanuts
we're gonna pour it on with what with what I mean that just to say something like that that show he's
so completely out of touch with reality and you know this is where you need people that have got some calmness and some
understanding about what the true state of the world is.
And anybody that thinks they're going to bully Russia now,
particularly since Russia has unveiled this new weapon.
And we've heard people who call it they call it the kadr they
call it the rs something or other i don't know what it is and i'm not sure the intelligence
community has yet come up with a name for it but whatever it is this is this is as important
a change in military technology as happened on August 6th, 1945, with the
bombing of Hiroshima.
Wow.
Prior to that, we had all these conventional bombs that were following.
All of a sudden, boom, a nuke, an atomic bomb goes off.
Game changer.
This was the game changer that the media is failing
to fully acknowledge.
This will raise your blood pressure a little bit,
but it's exactly what you were just
describing. Here's Mike
Waltz, Congressman Waltz,
soon to be National Security
Advisor
Waltz,
over the weekend saying, I met with Jake Sullivan. We see eye to eye.
We're on the same team. Cut number five. President Trump has been very clear about the need to end
this conflict. And so what we need to be discussing is who's at that table, whether it's an agreement, an armistice, how to get both sides to the table, and then what's the framework of a deal.
That's what we'll be working with this administration until January and then beyond.
And I also want to be clear on one thing, Jillian.
Jake and I, Jake Sullivan and I have had discussions. We've met. For our adversaries out there that
think this is a time of opportunity, that they can play one administration off the other,
they're wrong. And we are hand in glove. We are one team with the United States in this transition. Who would want to be hand in glove with the
most abysmal foreign policy since the end of World War II? Yeah. No, look, I said Trump,
Trump's on the record that he's going to do certain things differently.
And what Waltz is talking about is the same old game. And if Trump fails to follow through on his policies, his presidency is the dead.
It'll be a dud.
It'll prove that he didn't learn a damn thing from his first term.
And that's unfortunate.
He's been given a historic opportunitygeist in the United States is one that is views Russia as an implacable foe.
As a tyrant bent on conquering the world, we still we still hold these Cold War Soviet era of russia without recognizing actually the changes that
have taken place in russia so uh you know it's it's it's unfortunate that that uh he's not
signaling a change more of the same and the united states is going to lose. Here is a cut from a woman that I don't know
or know of. However, her background maintains that she's a former intelligence official,
CIA, NSA, DIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, by the name of Rebecca Coffer.
I think you'll probably agree with what she said. Surprise, surprise. It's on
Fox News. Here she is. Chris, cut number eight. So we war game this scenario, exactly this scenario
back in the intelligence community. And we are right now on the escalation ladder, inching towards a nuclear war. The Russians and the
United States are de facto right now in a war. Why is that? It is because those attackers don't
fight by themselves, even though Ukrainians, Ukrainian soldier technically can push the
button. But the targeting of the weapon systems, ensuring that there's a proper
flight trajectory of the missile, that it destroys the right target, the actual battle
damage achieved that we wanted to achieve, it all requires U.S. personnel and U.S. satellites.
This is why the Russians have stated that the United States and European targets are now in crosshairs.
And every war game that we conducted back in the intelligence community ended up in a nuclear war.
Makes sense to you?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, the the ignorance and failure to understand Russia as it is and to put put ourselves in their shoes and understand how they view the world, because we've been so used to telling others what to do. the weekend or last week with the reaction of people like Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton
to the ICC warrants for Netanyahu, where Graham says, well, we're going to sanction Canada
and we're going to sanction the UK and we're going to sanction France.
And it's like, God, you know, I knew you were not a bright fellow, but I didn't believe
you were that stupid.
That, you know, we sanction everybody who's our, quote, ally.
That's all we've got.
Or Cotton, we're going to invade the Netherlands.
Oh, great. Yeah, so the United States has no other response than to threaten, to bully, to coerce.
But you know what? If you're going to threaten and bully,, to coerce.
But you know what?
If you're going to threaten and bully,
you better make sure you can pull it off.
And the problem is right now,
we're finger-poking Russia in the chest,
and Russia's going to break our finger off one of these days, and there's not a thing we can do to stop it.
Let's extrapolate the existence of this weapon. Let's assume that there's more than
one to Netanyahu and Iran. If Russia does not want Iran attacked, does Netanyahu stand still
knowing that the last thing he would want is one of these babies coming at Tel Aviv.
Yeah, if Russia decided to share this technology with Iran,
Iran would be able to take out immediately Russia's entire nuclear program.
You mean Israel's?
I mean Israel's, exactly, sorry.
Iran would be able to take out Israel's entire nuclear program in a heartbeat uh and you know that's what's worrisome still
let's compare and contrast you've got iran right now saying that it's going to it's going to
retaliate it's going to hit israel hard it's going to cause devastation okay it's been saying that now for a month right
nothing's happened and my my view is if you're actually going to do something don't sit there
and talk about it do it Putin's warning is quite different he's not making a threat yeah boy we're
going to hit you we're he's he's saying look you keep doing this we will retaliate
and we're going to retaliate specifically at military targets we're going to tell you what
we're going to hit so you can get your people out because you cannot stop what we're going to fire
at you you can't and we don't want to cause unnecessary civilian casualties that that's
been the hallmark of r Russian military operations throughout this special military
operation.
But now they actually have a technological solution, something where they can say, we
are going to hit you.
This is where we're going to hit you.
This is when we're going to hit you.
And you can't stop it.
Get your people out. We're going to hit you, and you can't stop it. Get your people out.
We're going to destroy that infrastructure.
Because I could see Russia very easily destroying that new base in Poland.
There's a base both in Romania as well in Poland where they positioned. Are these American bases, Larry, or bases that we have built and paid for?
Yeah, this is a new American base in Poland.
It just opened two weeks ago.
So I can see Russia taking that and destroying that base,
destroying the infrastructure so that, you know,
no place to live, no place to eat, no place to train.
I saw the clip of Senator Graham saying we would impose the most severe economic sanctions on any country that attempted to arrest Netanyahu, which Netanyahu says was issued by a rogue prosecutor. I don't care about the
prosecutor's personal sexual behavior. Those indictments are issued by a panel of three
judges. The three judges wrote a publicly available and compelling opinion. My question to you is,
couldn't Joe Biden, Tony Blinken, and Jake Sullivan similarly be indicted because
war crimes are defined as pulling the trigger or providing the ammunition?
Yeah.
No, they're facilitators.
You know, go back to your days as a judge.
If you had a guy that committed murder and then you also had the guy that sold him the gun and provided the ammunition that was used to commit the murder,
knowing that that was the intent of what it was going to be used for, the other guy is an accessory to that murder.
Not innocent. The problem, it'd be nice or I guess entertaining is a more accurate word
to go back and pull Lindsey Graham's remarks about the ICC
when they indicted Vladimir Putin for child sex.
Yes.
Man, he loved himself some ICC then.
The ICC was the best.
Now, this underscores sort of where I think the ICC has gotten out over its skis, because neither Russia nor Israel nor the United States are signatories to the Rome Treaty.
Right.
The Palestinians are.
You can actually make a case from a jurisdictional standpoint that because the Palestinians are, you can charge the Russians with genocide.
You can charge the perpetrator if you have jurisdiction
over the victim and that's exactly what that's exactly what the court has here that would allow
the icc to charge biden the perpetrator the financer the guy who provided the gun
the ammo and the getaway car is joe b. The guy who pulled the trigger and drove the car is Netanyahu, so to speak.
Yeah, no, and it is unquestionable that what the United States has enabled
and facilitated on the part of the government of Israel
is these attacks against the government of Lebanon, the people of Lebanon.
There's no declaration of war.
And yet Israel is bombing them.
They're bombing Syria.
Israel is this country that believes that it can go bomb any other country at once,
as long as it says it's trying to fight and prevent terrorism, which frankly is a precedent we, the United States, set.
A very bad precedent that instead of abiding by some sort of rule of law,
it's the rule of the jungle, you know, where we get to go rampage and kill
and destroy whoever we want, and there's no accountability.
That, I think, has been exposed now with this whole ICC situation.
And, you know, here we have Graham and Cotton, both U.S. senators, calling for what would amount to acts of war against people that are supposedly our allies, who are obligated under international law,
which we claim to uphold to abide by that arrest warrant.
So, you know, we've got a complete mess on our hands
where the United States has been used to driving the car.
And now we're like that 84-year-old man that his kids have had to take the car keys away from him.
We're no longer safe to be driving that car.
Is the deep state trying to create problems for Trump that will be insoluble or unduly consuming of American blood and treasure?
Yes. And Trump, frankly, i think it's taken the bait you know he met with ruta
the other day the nato secretary general tell you what as soon as ruta walked through the door
trump should have punched him in the face why is he unleashing why is he why is trump unleashing Sebastian Gorka and Mike Waltz to sound like Lindsey Graham?
Yeah.
Well, you can make the case that, you know, Trump's negotiating posture has always been he starts, he gets the most extreme position out in public.
And then in private, he walks it back and comes to a middle ground. And so maybe that's part
of his negotiating strategy to present this outward public hard line so that he can fall back.
But I think what he fails to consider in that using that strategy is the Russians are taking
what these people are saying at face value. And they're saying, okay, new administration,
same old policy. We're not getting any change. so we're going to continue doing what we're doing they're going to
militarily defeat ukraine and the united states has no negotiating leverage with russia right you
know the russians know what you're going to give them more patriots that you don't have you just
had the the commander of indo paycom the guy that's in you don't have. You just had the commander of Indo-PACOM,
the guy that's in charge of all U.S. forces in the Pacific theater,
admit the other day the United States is tapped out.
That if they keep sending stuff to Ukraine,
they don't have anything to fight in the Pacific.
So stop pretending that you got warehouses filled with inventory.
You don't. The cupboards are empty so chris uh the producer
our producer just texted me while you and larry have been talking biden issued a pardon
that oh my god hunter trump a turkey so sometimes the presidency is reduced to the ridiculous.
The president of the United States is killing people in Ukraine,
issues a pardon to a turkey.
Ray McGovern stated earlier today that his sources tell him that the American and British decisions
to allow the use of attackums and storm chasers, forget if I have the right name, storm shadow.
Storm shadows, yeah.
Right.
Was made without Lloyd Austin, that the American DOD was kept out of the loop.
Is that not malfeasance in office for them to make a decision of that magnitude without inquiring of defense professionals into the likely and probable consequences of the use of such equipment?
Oh, yeah. No, absolutely.
And they're probably now learning much to their chagrin uh that uh they should have they
should have brought austin in on it so at least they'd have some cover because if that is true
uh the military now is going to be in a position to say man you've you guys have set yourselves
on fire we got the fire extinguisher but no we're not going to use it. Because people think, oh, Johnson, you're exaggerating.
You know, you've been drinking the Kool-Aid or something.
But I can't emphasize strongly enough,
and I think Alistair Crook made the same point with you earlier today.
What we saw with this new technology that Russia unleashed is a game changer that gives Russia options
that will close off options for the West.
And it really puts Russia in a position.
It can precisely hit targets in the United Kingdom where they're not going to kill civilians but
they're going to kill infrastructure or if there are civilians killed those civilians would have
been stupid enough not to listen to the russian warning that that place was going to be attacked
and they needed to vacate because the you know putin is through playing he's his i would say his patience has been exhausted
they're no longer going to allow these missile attacks rocket attacks that come via programming
by western intelligence military specialists uh the drones is another thing yeah the drones come
in but they can shoot the drones down and they
do shoot down the vast majority of them and the drones don't cause that much damage but this is
different and they've now up up to this point the west has always pretended that the russia was
drawing red lines well they haven't they have now this is a. If you cross it, there will be consequences. And all we have to wait and see is if the West is foolish enough to test that limit.
Here's Donald Trump in March of 2023 on nuclear weapons and World War III. We have never been closer to World War III
than we are today under Joe Biden.
A global conflict between nuclear armed powers
would mean death and destruction on a scale
unmatched in human history.
It would be nuclear Armageddon.
He's right, isn't he?
Yeah. nuclear Armageddon he's right isn't he yeah well um he was right for that time
what we are now is Russia's got non-nuclear options where it can have it can have the the destructive effects of a nuke without all of the other nasty consequences like fallout,
radiation, clouds of dust that obscure the sun.
So that's what I mean.
It's a game changer.
It's really, it's almost something like a Star Wars death ray.
You know, it can hit and obliterate that particular site,
but it's not one that's going to necessarily cause a lot of unwarranted civilian casualties.
I wonder what Mike Pompeo and John Bolton thought about when they woke up on Saturday morning and read about this in the newspapers? Well, going on what they read in the newspapers, they were probably misled.
You know, the newspapers have done a very poor job of really explaining the importance and
significance of this technology. And frankly, I think a lot in the West don't understand it.
Again, when you get Ted Postal, and he's looking at it and he's going,
man, I've never seen anything like that.
That's new.
That should tell you.
He didn't get those gray hairs on Amazon.
You know, he earned them the old-fashioned way.
Thank you, Larry.
Always a pleasure, my dear man.
We'll look forward to the Intelligence Community Roundtable
at the end of the week.
And in the meantime, happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
And same to you.
Thank you.
Thank you, my friend.
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